/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Should i make public my commissions??? so far i kept all comissions private, and some requesters have asked me if i was going to post the comissions publicly, i told them not and a few seemed dessapointed.
shouldn't be the opposite since usually you have to pay to keep comms private.

>>6815878
Just put that you can pos comes in your TOS and post them unless someone asks otherwise

>>6815878
Just put in your TOS that you can post comms and post them unless someone asks otherwise

>>6815885
fuck this is why i love you bros, im too stupid to figure it out something so simple, i need to make a TOS first tho.

>>6815878
I post mine to advertise my skill for the next batch. I do the same with requests. You have to pay extra for me to keep it private because you're depriving me of an opportunity to advertise my skill. Requester have no choice and I'm making that shit public. Also I hear stories of people reselling commissions for more money when they insist on keeping it private. They can still do it for all I care but I might as well fuck them over with the private comm fee.

>>6815904
>Get commission
>Order that commission from unrecognized artist for a low prize
>Resell it to your own clients for a higher prize

flawless plan.

>>6815909
The spirit of the professional middle man is alive and well

These are relatively easy to spot as an artist because their art quality and style for their examples/offerings usually vary WILDLY. A normie comming them may not notice and that's who they trick into ordering commissions

Can an anon please post a commission piece they've done? I want to see what kind of skill level people are paying for out there.

>>6815932
I did this as a commission. I remember because I did this in a matter of two sittings.

>>6815932
I did this as a commission before i quit. I remember because i finished this in a matter of two sittings. They alt's and scribbles.

>>6815932
I did this as a commission before i quit. I remember because i finished this in a matter of two sittings. They got alt's and scribbles.

>>6815991
Cooom

>>6815932
This is just one of the process sketches but for the final picture + an alt of Link bulging out Zelda's stomach I charged around 60 bucks (it was just finished linework + grays, no color)
I gave my client a free alt of Link giving Zelda a cumflated belly and I think that sealed the deal to turn him into a regular client (he has been kind of a big deal in my commission journey as well, he's one of my better patrons and a joy to work with, I can even be honest with him when I think I underdeliver in terms of quality and he sometimes reaches out to me to point out flaws and mistakes in the wips of other people that he commissions)

>>6815872
god I want to fuck Asuna so badly.

>>6815991
>>6816039
Thanks for sharing, guys.

>>6815904
i see your point but sometimes i get requests that arent the type of stuff i usually post and i don't want people to think that im gonna be drawing that stuff regularly.

>>6815991
She is cute, damn.

>>6815991
Blog

Are people okay commissioning traditional art but knowing they will just get a full res scan of the piece? I mean, I live in a third world country and sending out stuff outside it's a huge pain on the ass

Why don't people just revive the dead /aco/ commission thread here in /ic/

>>6817487
all they talk about is furry and pedo revenge
at least you have actual questions in here
>t. actual /aco/ viewer for the last 80 threads
it's going to degrade to Paypal "how can i hide my real name" but at least its not furrybait and bot spam

>>6816041
You want to fuck...a drawing? That's fucking weird dude.

>>6816356
>>6816039
>>6815991
>>6815909
Is it twitter where you guys post for commissions? I'm really new to all of this and hardly know a thing.

>>6817684
My best advice is to get yourself involved in a community and cater to their niche

>>6817522
>it's going to degrade to Paypal "how can i hide my real name"

just tell them to use monerocoin, there are tutorials on how to make transactions and ways to exchange.

>>6817953
for me it's just letting my client see my fucking name
what is he gonna do, call me by my first name? it's Gregor, there, you guys can call me that too

>client asks for a genital alt
>assume he just wants me to slap a futa cock on the woman, agree
>later, once everything is almost done, ask for details of the genital alt
>he wants me to fucking make the woman's vagina look like it has a blue waffle infection
why does this always fucking happen to me, why can't my fucking weirdo clients be normal weirdos

>>6818816
Oh god that is unfortunate

>>6818816
>draw a chubby girl once as a meme
>get like 10 people out of nowhere asking me for fattyfication and inflation fetish

>>6818816
I'd tell him hell no and refund that part of the comm, man I just can't...

>>6818816
Seems pretty funny to me, go crazy and make it really fucking gross like ari shaffir gross

you gaiz gonna post ypur c9mm sheets or what?

>>6818816
Think of it this way. Would you take 60$ to eat a huge log of shit, even if you knew it was "clean" of diseases? Because this is what you've been asked and some people just enjoy to see the artists squirm.

I've commissioned two different artists from here for a 14 x 24" desk mats. This was $400 with practically unlimited revision. Can't find the artist anymore on twitter

This one was $200 with 3 different initial concepts based on my reference and then no issues on the few revisions necessary. Between the two this one has sold better.
I'm looking to get another mat made as well if someone wants some sfw work

>>6820328
>$200
Holy shit

>>6820338
People like using it to post their most recent acquisitions

>>6815872
I've never charged for an artwork

>>6820338
As in too cheap or too expensive?
If the latter then you should take into account that's it's a custom accesory not just a digital drawing and the concept and execution look nice

>>6815872
Anyone from Poland that knows how to deal with taxes for digital comms paid in foreign currency, when you dont want to set up a business? I used to just pay the yearly income tax as long as i didnt cross the earning limit, but the recent changes to our dumbass law fucked everything up

>>6817979
Hi Gregor

>>6815872
The world needs more cunny.

Is there a thread on /ic/ for requesting commissions? I need someone who can do Genndy Tartakovsky style stuff well.

>>6820798
goto DA or x. /ic/ is a /beg hub, we don't do comms

Guy wanted me to do an illustration based on a description.
I do nsfw so thought he'd wanted that. Specifically tells me he doesn't want anything lustful. Showed him the final version
Proceeds to ask me for an alternative naked version.
BTW how much should I charge for something like this? Picrel

>>6820669
Doesn't get calculated automatically in that governmental website? Man, that sucks.

>>6820328
How to you go about printing your design on the mat? Do you use third parties for that or create the whole product yourself?

>>6821125
Third parties, the one I use has a minimum order quantity of 25 @ $9.43 ea

>>6820338
That's for commercial work (the guy said he's reselling it printed on physical items), if you're not charging 2-4x at least for commercial work you're asking for headaches.

>>6821333
At the same time fuck you for doing that, I'm still not profitable on the one I had to pay $400 for the art. In fact that trend of charging me double for the exact same picture has pushed me closer to AI. Just because I'm willing to take on the extra risk by paying to get a product printed where you wouldn't have doesn't mean your work somehow becomes worth 2-4x more.
I guarantee you I'm also less naggy and demanding than the coomers you people here are used to working with

how do you guys deliver the artwork? do you guys just upload it to drive and link it to them?

Where I can promote my commissions? DA is dead, I tried X, Tumblr and Reddit and no luck.
>tfw I used to fill all commission slots pre 2019

>>6819107
I'd do it for $200 a request
ez

>>6821377
wherever the client wants unless you already had a particular way to do it. Some guys are ok with getting the image on the chat of the website youre using, others prefer things like their email.

>>6821694
da is not dead, tumblr is, reddit is even more dead for drawings like, yeah a very stupid option.
Deviantart, twitter, instagram, pixiv are the most important, after that it would be: newgrounds, hentaifoundry, facebook, tiktok, youtube, after that should be any niche site like those furry websites.

This might be a noob question (and maybe there should be a FAQ for the next OP) but what payment processor should I use for NSFW commissions? I'm afraid of using PayPal because I don't want to get banned from it because I use it for other online businesses, and I don't want to use anything that will expose my real name. Are middlemen the only option for me, and if so, what is the recommended one to use?

>>6821339
Then pay me commission, I'm not paying for your marketing or materials failures while also not getting paid for your success. The art is the main basis for the product itself, if you want me to somehow be paid less because of how it does financially then that goes both ways. 95% of the reason commercial pricing exists is because commercial clients don't want to pay percents or have the longterm contracts that that entails, it's the infinitely better option for small parties without legal teams. Choose one or the other if you want legal rights to it so you can make infinite resale copies of it.
Also, commercial clients tend to be ten times as annoying in one way or the other as personal clients, and you'd better believe I'm charging more to deal with your obnoxious spergy /biz/ bullshit than I would charge someone who's more pleasant to work with.
>AI
then fuck off and do it already, stop wasting your time here.

>>6821916
Middlemen are the only real option for avoiding personal information reveals. There are a lot now, some better than others, all taking fees, but any of them are better than just using paypal direct.

>>6822194
>Then pay me commission
Yes that's what the 1x is

>>6816039
Reminds me of legoman

>>6822228
What an honor to be compared to him

>>6822206
you're a seanig, "commission" in this case obviously refers to a payment based on the percentage of actual end-product sales, usually done as either a set amount per sale or a set percentage per sale, indefinitely or for a long period of time (years). This is how the commercial world works, that's the cost of rights transfer. Without rights transfer you can technically be sued for commercializing property that you don't own in nearly every part of the world that isn't china.
Commercial usage is a completely different animal, most commercial clients (especially small-time ones) are retards, pricing is an absolutely should be different. Go lowball indians and middle-schoolers on fiverr if you want to think otherwise, or sell AIslop and be done with it.

Anyone here do YCH? I find them more fun and preferable, but I'd rather sell a good one off than spam a bunch of templates.

>>6822773
>This is how the commercial world works, that's the cost of rights transfer
Yea no, I'm just not going to give business to artists who think they can leech off of my additional efforts despite it taking no further work on their part than their usually 1x commission.

>>6815878
Some may feel you didn't like their commission, some like the badge of 'I commissioned this dude' but it's your art and your own rules so do whatever man.

bump

>>6822860
and we're not letting some fag make endless money off our work. People buy products with art on them for the art, and for the product. You get paid for every sale despite doing nothing beyond coming up with the idea of slapping the two things together, and doing literally nothing additional for each sale. If payment was only based on incremental work then you'd get 20$ for the idea and only the production company would ever get paid per sale. If the artist is a leech in this, then you're an even more worthless one.
You're a fucking retard. Go back to lowballing thrid-worlders.

>>6825551
>If the artist is a leech in this, then you're an even more worthless one.
This is where you're confused, though
>pay artist for art
Is not being a leech. If I took that art I stuck it in a closet the artist would be happy they got paid exactly what they were asking. Now if I take that art and bring it to another company that works with rubber mats the artist suddenly finds that original amount is no longer what their art is worth, despite selling it for that amount.
Do you think the rubber mat company asks if I'm going to sell these or not and raises the price accordingly? No, because they know what part of the transaction they are. They produce a thing for the price they list.
The artist has already been paid and is immediately more profitable than myself who has to pay for the production of the mats, shipping, storing, individual packaging, and shipping again. All of this takes no effort from the artist who has already been paid for their part.

>>6825564
>If I took that art I stuck it in a closet the artist would be happy they got paid exactly what they were asking.
Yes, because you've paid for a singular copy of the work, typically the original copy. The artist retains many legal rights associated with the art, including ability to make prints themselves for later resale. That may not have immediate value, but who knows 10-20 years down the road if they might be popular.
>Now if I take that art and bring it to another company that works with rubber mats the artist suddenly finds that original amount is no longer what their art is worth, despite selling it for that amount.
The value of the art has never changed. If you're doing this legally its because you paid extra and in exchange acquired extra rights to reproduction.
>Do you think the rubber mat company asks if I'm going to sell these or not and raises the price accordingly?
The rubber mat manufacturer IS getting a piece of every sale, because they're charging you for every single mat. However, nothing stops you from jumping to partner with another fabricator, just as nothing stops you from partnering with another artist on a different piece.

By the way, currently there is no legal copyright protection for AI generated works. If you start selling mats with your freely obtained AI prompt output, there is absolutely nothing preventing someone else from cutting you out and making/selling their own identical rubber mats.

>The artist has already been paid and is immediately more profitable than myself who has to pay for the production of the mats, shipping, storing, individual packaging, and shipping again
Sounds like you're operating in a shit business. Branding is key. But suppose at some point you successfully achieve some popular brand status with original characters that you now own the rights to? You may end up making millions, meanwhile the artist who sold you their rights for $200 will only ever have that money.

>>6825694
Thanks for the discussion anon

>>6815872
>haven't been commissioned in a year

So… Do you guys pay taxes? I know in America Land you need to pay taxes over a certain dollar amount ($400). Does anyone actually do it? I don’t do commissions yet, but I was considering it. How bad is it?

Are you saying that people will pay me for do draw stuff i already draw for free?

>>6826249
No, they'll pay you to draw things you didn't know existed, never would have considered, and will probably never consider again afterwards.
Though maybe not so much that last part, judging by the image you posted if it's actually your art.

>>6826495
>maybe not so much that last part
What do you mean?

>>6826249
And you still strike me as an edgy tryhard...
What's your end goal, anon?

>>6826249
>draw perfectly angled feets sometimes
>draw stump hands most of the time
If you are going to trace, trace everytime, don't just mix stuff with CLEARLY different qualities

>>6827910
kek

>>6819107
>more potential buyers is le bad because...

>>6829145
If you're not into those fetish taking those commissions can pretty much funnel ypu down that road. Draw fat fetish comms once, more fat fetish clients start coming in and before you know it suddenly you're known as that fatfag artist.

>client I've worked with before asks yet for another comm
>send him invoice
>doesn't pay
>hey did you receive my invoice?
>"yeah I did"
>never hear back from him, cancel invoice
>few months later
>hey anon, can you send me that invoice again?
>"you ghosted me lol"
>"yeah I apologize I got unemployed, but I'm back"
to be fair he has been a good client so I cut him some slack
but I mean, if your situation isn't the best maybe don't buy commissions I dunno

>>6815878
You're always better off posting than not posting. Even if you aren't happy with the result, your fans probably won't be as harsh on it as you are, and the more you post, the more chances you have of being seen, the more likely you are to post something which will draw in a particular commissioner, and the more likely you are to develop your "brand" which encourages more interactions (people are more likely to comment on the works of artists who post a lot or otherwise have an account which seems lively).

>>6815878
protip.
the only reason coomers buy comms instead of prompting is beccause they enjoy the whole ordeal of getting a comm.

>>6825551
Yes, in the real world, freelance artists who don't want to get fucked over keep in kind what the art is being used for. If somebody is commissioning art for personal use, you charge differently than if somebody is going to be reselling the image or using it as part of some other enterprise.

>>6815872
How do you guys deal with the anxiety of a client not responding? It's already paid and I'm near to finish the artwork but sometimes I fear that the guy is mad or not caring anymore for it

>>6826249
You definetly have a niche, no matter the skill level you have you can get customers anyways.

>>6815878
I'd charge the client that wants their commission private. Otherwise, I'd post the commission into public for free.

>>6829337
maybe he got laid off after you sent the invoice and it hit him out of nowhere, probably should've said something earlier though

>>6820328
>>6820345
Glad it's selling alright.

>>6820338
What's up?

>>6830340
Was bummed I couldn't hit you up for a second one. Hope your other projects are going well!

>>6830341
Lol actually I'm flat broke right now. I'm cooking something up but it's a bit of a gamble, so I might end up hitting you up in a month or so if it ends up failing. You were a good client, thumbs up from me.

>>6830347
Shit that sucks, I hope your gamble pays off. Definitely hit me up in that time would love to work with you again

>>6829505
>enjoy the whole ordeal of getting a comm.
jej

>>6830259
what niche is this one?

>>6830451
Ryona stuff I think? I know about fucked up fetishes but not that much

Anyone using Pixiv requests? If i draw lolis and get my money sent to paypal will they track me and freeze my account?

>>6832425
no retard

>>6832425
no, pìxiv is the one paying you thorugh paypal not the requester or any links to the request

>>6832431
Sound great since i'm really not into socializing on xhitter and just want to draw cunny and other things

>>6832440
also you can get away with making shitty deliveries, no refunds, pixiv gives you 2 mother fucking months to finish your request, and as long as you give what the requester asked you even if your finished work is sloppy that's it, you are good, requestrs can message you either nor do ask you for wips, pretty fucked up but whatever, the trade is that pixiv takes like 5 or 10% of the pay. i still prefer payments directly with paypal. is easier and faster, pixiv pays you every month and in Yens.

>>6825705
You guys aren’t paying taxes… are you

Stonetoss has a point with that comic about feet people, some of the dumbest motherfuckers Ive had to deal with as clients
>forgetting details and constantly asking for revisions because of it
>sudden cancellations
>not reading the rules on the commission form
>largely lolifags

>wanna do comms
>dont wanna do fetish crap

Seems like that's 95% of the market. I'll do violence, and lewds, but no nudes. Is that viable, or should I just stick to doing art for myself?

>>6833640
Write a comic book at that point

>>6833656
That's what I figured

>>6832440
>xhitler
go back to tumbl

>>6820328
not sure if I got that right, you're still selling mats with this motif? I'm interested

>>6818816
Cute isn't exactly normal either
Stop being a coomfag

>>6833825
Yes but when we printed the new ones with thicker material and stitched edging there was a miscommunication and there's a black border until we run out of these ones
If you search Anonymintpm the website will come up, happy to answer any questions

Anyone know the general cost for a book cover? Not looking just yet, but I'd like to know the ballpark for it ahead of time.

>>6833852
Tbh black border looks good with this picture, really shows darkness around Apu.PMK4D4

>>6834092
Interesting, thank you for that I'll consider it for the next run

>>6833640
fetish shit is probably only like 15% of the market, they're just a loud and annoying part of the market and often have lower standards for entry.
If you're okay with vanilla stuff and just not fetish, then you won't have any issues at all.
If you don't want to do anything NSFW at all, then you do limit yourself a bit (most of the "lewd but not NSFW' market is people who also want NSFW and just sometimes only want ecchi, and these people will largely give that work to artists that also do their NSFW work, so there really isn't a market for ecchi alone), but the larger part of the market is still SFW stuff so it won't kill you. You'll just have to not look for work on 4chan or porn discords.
If you're willing to do violence, non-fetish, gore, whatever, pyw I might be interested.

>>6834084
varies widely like all things do, depending on style, what you want to depict on it, compensation type, etc.
And that's an irrelevant question anyways unless you're self-publishing and self-distributing. Any third party publishers will have strict guidelines for what they want on the cover, and that's when they don't just do it themselves without your input and include it in your bill. Most third-party distributors will also have strict guidelines and will probably be less up-front about it, especially if you're self-publishing.

>>6833640
Actually I do fetish crap from time to time, but never did nudes. So yeah it's possible.

Hello I could use some cash im broke

@FunworldTonight

does /ic/ even have anons wanting to commission others? this kind of thread makes little sense on this board and makes more sense on boards that are more catered to consumers like the /v/ variants, /co/ /aco/ etc

>>6836507
>Hello I could use some cash
just learn how to sdraw anime faces and it doesn't have to be super good your render skills will carry hard whatever westanime style you end up doing, you will drown in comms in no time or draw furry or any other degenerate shit.
t. i get more comms that i can handle with 1/10 of your skills.

I'm always thinking in the back of my mind "why don't you just use AI?" but I'll never say it.

>>6836550
It does make sense because we are discussing the activity of doing commissions, rather than looking for commissions or potential clients.

That said, if I had the money to spare, I would gladly commission artists like BBC Chan, the blondie bunny schizo (Teasum?), that one anon from /asg/ (Nair?) and Minty to draw my blondie. There're plenty of good artists in here.

>>6836568
This was meant for >>6836510, my bad kek.

>>6815932
On the left the first commission I've ever done, on the right my latest

>>6836556
because you won't get any money that way, dumb retard. just get a real job if you're dogshit at drawing.

>>6836892
I mean saying it to someone that is commissioning me.

>>6836556
Because they want you personally draw it because you offer something they want in your art.

>>6836507
Nice Frankie

>>6836507
no offense but this comes off as a good spread to give as an example of how to recognize a tracer.

>>6836887
the coloring of the polly pockets was better in the first desu. the more saturated colors don't look great with the thicker lineart.

>>6815872
Do I just put some pic on my New Grounds or Twitter saying I draw anime girls in wnderwear and expect people to pay me for it?

>>6836957
You can have in your name (COMMISSIONS OPEN). Also you can and should make yourself single image file comm sheet that shows your work, prices, payment method and how to contact you. In Pixiv and DA your profile shows if you accept comms through their in-site commission service. Also you can post about your comm queue in your Twitter and art site status updates

>>6836948
Why a tracer?

>>6815932
I got tricked into drawing ponies. didn't realize til after I finished the 4 page commission lol.

>>6815932
The first of the three commissions of my current batch, this was 60$, but I went the extra mile with background and other stuff because of the time delay and because it was a friend who commissioned me.
Take it as you will kek.
>>6816039
Love that face, blog?

>>6836550
i hate anime and was a successful porn artist but i quit. I just need money now.

>>6836948
i will never understand why people cant comprehend that i draw in multiple styles

>>6837104
NTA but maybe that's why you're struggling to get comms, it's like throwing a dice if I can't tell what exactly will come out, and yes people can provide ref but I see way too many options here.
I'd go for 2 tops, no more than 3, hopefully similar but only varying in levels of rendering/detail.
Or you can ditch that and make a brand out of being the chameleon guy and become a content creator on jewtube showing how you can produce a piece of your own based on a style you saw, I mean it's gimmicky but at least you make better use of your skills rather than just confusing people with a random style every post.
That or become a concept artist, you'd be producing art for gacha or phone games to something that may need more specific like tcg or an upcoming indie game, now you could do pixel art as well just to have more options, I mean if you're going this far why the fuck not.

>>6837367
im not struggling to get comms, i was successful but i didnt like drawing porn. the only reason im posting here is because i need some pocket money.

>>6837396
You are not struggling to get comms but you need pocket money from /ic/ of all places? So you are struggling to get money?

>>6815932
Some WoW comm

>>6837418
What about this is confusing to you. I don't rely on art for my primary source of income and I don't intend to.

>>6837475
Why not get that pocket money from your comms regular way instead of trying to get the pocket money from comms from /ic/? Your story doesn't add up

>>6837478
Not him but why do you assume he's not also looking elsewhere?

>>6818816
lol is this for real? how common is stuff like this?

>>6837481
>>6837396
He says he's not struggling to get comms, yet he needs pocket money from comms from /ic/. So either he gets commed regularly and doesn't really need the alleged pocket money from /ic/ or he doesn't get commed regularly and that's why he is desperate to get commed in /ic/

>>6837485
Dude you're looking for contradictions where there aren't any. Getting comms elsewhere does not mean one cannot get comms here. It doesn't take any time or investment at all to throw a post up here just in case a potential client might see it.

>>6837495
So is he commed regularly or not?

>>6837497
How should I know? All I'm saying is that your assumption that posting here means he's desperate is a flawed one.

>>6837104
No one draws in that many styles that are so inconsistent in elements (ie lighting style and understanding, brushwork, palettes, shading and shading effects, linework, feature emphasis, color rendering, etc.) unless they're either an incredibly talented style mimicker (and as a result are rich as fuck or literally professional and don't post here) or a shitty tracer (or these days AI photobasher) that doesn't even know how to alter the work to remove obvious style elements and look semi-consistent.
Actual artists have at most a handful of styles, and most if not all of those are similar enough or have enough similar elements that you can tell it's the same artist drawing it.
No legitimate artist that would post here has an example spread like that, that image is a near textbook way to recognize a tracer or maybe someone who outsources their art to multiple SEAnigs and charges 3x for it on twitter.

>electronics store owner wants me to create a t shirt design
>wants it to be freak show/sideshow circus themed featuring typical performers like the bearded lady, world’s heaviest woman, siamese twins, etc

I really love the idea, but I’m worried it might offend someone. Are “freak shows” considered not PC now since most performers were disabled? Would a “world’s largest woman” be considered “fat phobic”?

This is for a local business but I also display this work in my portfolio for potential future clients.

>>6838517
This is one of the least reliable places for asking this kind of question, anon.

>send the price to a new commossioner
>get way more than i told him to pay
>told him about it immediately
>get: ''it's all good, i like your art.''

bros.... im literally shaking right now.

>>6838676
Is his name perhaps Charle?

>>6837507
>>6837497
>>6837495
>>6837485
>>6837482
>>6837481
>>6837478
>>6837475

I KNEW there would be a huge chain of replies when i check back because you psychos are literally addicted to arguing. get a hobby man

>>6838676
Oh yeah, a year or two ago I quoted a commissioner for $45, but he paid an extra $15 on top of it. It was nice.

>>6837613
Maybe you’re right about that anon… But I don’t really think you need to be a professional to achieve this level of variety. You may be projecting some. I think anyone at a mid level int could produce a pretty varied portfolio. It’s actually really common with college students too, since the classes they take often require them to produce work in heavily varied styles. I definitely think I could do something like this, it’s not “super” difficult to conduct a style study and then create in that style. Especially when you are consciously trying to create distinct looking art. Really just changing the size of the canvas and the brushes you are using will pretty heavily alter the results even without a conscious decision to make a style change.

Give me commissions of pretty girls please
@dragoneteur on Instagram

I haven't raised my prices since 2020 and I really feel that I got better but I'm afraid of raising them because I could lose my regulars

>>6840803
It's your time and work. You set the prices on the level you deem worthy. You don't owe low prices to anyone. You know people are willing to pay actually reasonable prices for art that scratch their itch just right

>>6815932
this was my last pixiv commission from a few days ago
the person offered 15000 jpy to make their OCs
I don't use twitter, just pixiv, but I usually receive an average of 3-4 requests per month

>>6840941
A-anon, can I shamelessly request you an OC on Pixiv? I love your stuff so much.

>>6840941
Your stuff, like mine, looks much better as line art

>>6840972
thanks bro, I'm glad you liked it
feel free to make a request using the pixiv tool
>>6840983
I agree too
my rendering and colors are kinda lame
I started using screentones to alleviate this while I study more about rendering

I don't know how to get more customers... are my prices to high or should I redo my commission sheet?

>>6841643
Judging by your post and lack of images attached to it, I think it might be something wrong with your brain

>>6815932
This is the last comm I did but it was a little while ago.

>>6841650
Ah my bad hold on

>>6841659
Does this ref sheet read well in your opinion?

I'm not gonna say the prices are too high or anything, but what's your target audience? What sets you apart from thousands of artists offering the similar things? Where do you market yourself? Are people into your type of art able to find you in art sites by simply searching for tags your art represent? What itch your art scratch that make clients open their wallets for you?

>>6841664
I'm mostly into cozy girly art rather than epic stuff. My last commissions were mostly just characters fucking around in simple pose rather than fights. That's what I usually get. (Maybe because I'm more used to draw girls than men).

>>6841666
If you don't have specific thing/s that sets you apart from other artists, then it's pretty much up to exposure, appeal of your art, luck and your online presence. If I were you, I would make myself available on those sites and forums people looking for artists to commission go. Never make potential client go extra steps finding you, instead be there where the clients already are.

>>6841674
I see, I already posted my sheet on my instagram and reels. I usually DM customers on Art Discord when they're posting requests.
Do you recommend me other websites/forums where I could post it?

>>6841675
Pixiv, DA, Twitter, Newgrounds

>>6840941
How does Pixiv comms work? Do you need a JP bank account?

>>6841678
Got it, I'll check those out, thanks!

>>6841679
To commission R18 material in Pixiv, you seem to need to have the site in Japanese or some shit. For artists, you can come from any part of the world and have Paypal or your own country's bank account to link to your Pixiv to take comms

>>6840803
at least adjust for inflation

Guys who do pixiv request please answer me this; The price you put in JPY to accept requests is the minimum, right? clients are allowed to pay more as they see fit no?

>>6841713
That's correct. And the Pixiv even tells you to not undersell yourself.

>>6841713
>The price you put in JPY to accept requests is the minimum, right?
no, that's your tarjet price people can send you request with lower or higher amount.
>>6841718
>And the Pixiv even tells you to not undersell yourself.
never saw this. but i have seen quite a few artists with high int level skills charging 8k yens for full bodies and open to draw anything.

>>6841760
8k yen is like 55-60bux. It's not very much.

>>6841760
yeah that was my point, i don't think people care if Pixiv want artist to charge more, obviously pixiv wants that cus they get a bigger cut.

>>6841771
>>6841769

>>6815991
Love it

>>6840941
is it the requests section anon? and what'd you type up as terms for a request?

Are you seriously making any money or is this a 200 dollars on a good month thing?

>>6841713
Yes. But 75% of the time your clients will pay the amount you asked for, 10% of the time the bare minimum, and the 15% of the time is more than what you asked for.

Obviously, if the price is too low for your liking you could either not accept the request or just give them their money's worth.

>>6841889
I'd imagine the "clients" would pay more or less depending on any given commission sheet right?

Which gets me to another question, should the commission sheet be in JPY or not? I don't use any other site.

>>6841873
I have like a measly 2k followers and I've already been asked to do commissions like 4 times already. I'm sure there's good money to be made here as long as you're not a moron.

>>6841659
I'll comment on your ref sheet.
For one, you have a LOT of empty spaces. In a thumbnail people might gloss over it since they can't immediately see that it's a comm reference sheet. Make sure it's easy to follow/read your commission sheet! It took me more than 2-3 seconds to figure out you have to read from left, top to bottom and then to the right. Typically, most refs either reads from top to bottom or left to right. (Sometimes right to left). Think of your reference sheet is on twitter's timeline where most posts show up for 1 sec or less.

Next is the choice of color. The dark purple dark green gradient is honestly not appealing to look at. And what's with the border?

There isn't enough do's/dont's and what you generally do either. No need to add too much texts, just a simple "I dont do furries" or "Yes! I draw feet!" would give the commissioner an idea of what you usually draw

If your commission reference sheet is among dozens of other comm sheet, it's pretty easy for people to gloss over it.

>>6841897
If you only use Pixiv, it's natrually wise to give the amount in yens so they know what to punch in. But do give the value also in dollars/euros so client immediately knows the value without them needing to check it

>>6841904
How many pages should I do? More or less?
Also what should I do to make it stand out more?

>>6841900
This i got comms from 4chan niggas before starting any socials.

i wouldn't say that drawing is the most stable way to get a living but theres money to be made, as a side job is pretty profitable, you make your on deadlines and how much you can charge or effort you put on, i get between 400 to 500 usd monthly with less than 60 hours of total work.

>>6841909
NTA but it's good to have your comm sheet in one image gile. You can have 3-4 example images and all the necessary info:
>price
>how to contact you
>payment method

Pic rel is my old comm sheet and havent had any problems with it

>>6841912
I see, I'll try to take inspiration from it then, thanks!
Can I see your new one? I'm curious

>>6841915
Havent made one for public yet, only for monthly supporters. Opening comms again once the current comm queue is short enough

>>6841900
>>6841910
Thanks for the whitepill, i sometimes get demoralized

>>6841918
Alright, good luck with that

what is best place to commission NSFW artwork? I'm looking for high end stuff, hentai related images. not even new images either, i just want people to recreate certain scene caps in their style/updated/enhanced

>>6841897
I use JPY for mine.
Easier for the users to gauge and compare.
It's just the standard X JPY for 1 character and +50% more per additional characters.

If you have enough space you can also write the japanese translation for your commission details as well.

Wait I just thought, if I were to made a commission sheet on Pixiv, do I need to put my pricing list in JPY?

>>6841938
There's high skilled artists on pivix taking comms but of course you'll have to pay more

>>6841953
yeah i dont mind paying big to get high quality. i tried to message oda-non but she never replied :(

>>6841959
If they have Pixiv comms open, you can write the comm request in English and it will be translated to Japanese. Do give them links to your preferred characters and clothing and other details into request form. Dont private message them, as it's against the rules and jap artist are very obidient

>have to read a damned essay to commission someone and its topped with trello shit
If you do this you are like the women who put on a cooking recipe, but you need to read their entire life and another stories before you can get to the ingredients list.

>>6841967
having had a quick scan the quality seems really low, like the skill level seems pretty basic (no disrespect intended, we all have to start somewhere). I searched NSFW commissions so i don't know if thats why...13 pages in.

>>6841979
That's cool. What exacty that does have to do with my post, though?

>>6815932
Trello is really cool, a subscriber just recommended it to me yesterday
https://trello.com/b/Jv0qcujr/thekid-commissions

>>6841938
skeb seems the go to nowdays, pixiv and then twatter

How many followers did you guys have when you started taking comms?

>>6842294
200

>>6841870
yes, the request terms
just describe the things you are willing to draw, if you accept r18 requests, and additional prices for extra characters, background etc.

Hey, I'd like to pay someone 20 bucks for a full body no color line art in an anime style. Could you drop a link to your socials if interested? If not, can drop a method of communication for you to reach out to me.

>>6842378
I'm >>6840161 if you're interested. Here's my link to instagram : https://www.instagram.com/dragoneteur/

>>6841905
>>6841944
Thanks for the info boys.

>>6842294
46

>>6842460
Now that's sussy baka, I can't even get likes with 25 followers, how can you get money with 46?

>>6836510
/aco/ got rid of the commission thread and the other drawthreads are owned by botfag and his minions now, their lists of drawfags looking for work are mostly vestigial and includes people who haven't posted in a decade or are literally dead.

And even if botfag stopped shitting up three boards at once tomorrow I'd bet most requesters wouldn't suddenly start paying for comms, dropping a random request on 4chan and not really giving a shit whether it gets done, who does it, and what liberties they take is an entirely different dynamic from wanting THAT guy to draw THAT thing THAT way, for next week.

>>6842294
0, I made a separate account for NSFW only after I started taking comms and to this date have never cross-contaminated the two accounts in any capacity.
>buh how
I made a comm sheet, I went to a commission discord (namely the aco/trash one) and posted it. It's important to have good, competitive prices for your quality when you're directly competing with people's favorites & have no following of your own. I don't mean undercut people or undersell yourself, I mean be good at what you're asking people to pay you for.

>>6842468
Even if the threads are dead, the server appears to still be alive and kickin'. I haven't actually used it for well over a year but I never left in case I needed side money.
https://discord.gg/sSYnr6Q8gu

>>6842465
because i made a twitter/pixiv account to take requests from some people who were literally pressing me to do so.

>>6842460
damn and here I thought 100 was too low to start doing requests. well I'm off to make money boys

>>6842294
100-200

I just got suspended on twitter for saying that paypal kikes can choke of the $3 fee they stole from me. I hate this shitty fucking world. You can do anything you want to anybody except say what you fucking mean.

>>6843205
They were afraid of you

>>6820323
Lmao thats me!

Its @haresgone on twatter.

Good to see you around bro.

Does anybody have tips of giving the finger to these kikes? I refuse to be taxed for my own artistic labor in a private sale. I refuse to be silenced as a result of daring to vocalize my thoughts on the matter.

>>6842471
I've been using that server since the pandemic and not 1 person has followed me or comm'ed me from there. I draw anime and you guys praise me so I don't get it. I don't list my prices so that's probably why.

>>6843261
Are you jewish by any chance? Cause you worked that goy over, mazel tov!

>>6843373
ask your friends/mutuals if they're interested

>>6843373
I haven't been on there for as long as you, but that server is notorious for being useless. Even if you do get a comm, you're likely to get scammed. Almost no one is getting comms from there

>>6843316
you're a maladjusted retard and society has no need for you. In a just world mongoloid neets like you would be hanged by their feet and bled into buckets. But we live in a soft world made for soft retards like you. Nobody cares about your commissions and nobody is missing out on anything stay mad and weak retard.

>>6843391
oh shut up and post your work, lazy moron

>not a poorfag
>work with a artists to make a oc design
>artist asks me they are willing to draw NSFW at a higher price
>commission for years they go dark for year
>see artist blog that they need money sent a request they decline.
>every fucking time am serious thinking of just using ai.

>>6843382
>>6843385
Thanks for the confirmation. I'll ask my mutuals if they're interested next time.

>>6843399
you may not be a poorfag but you are an ESL. want to try running that through google translate again?

>>6843569
>t. /pol/cel with 8TB of blacked porn

>>6843373
>>6843385
I dunno bro, werked on my machine. Can you post your sheet?
Not listing your prices definitely might contribute to the issue, but there might be more to it. Keep in mind that with so many people posting their sheets in there, you have to lay out information plain and simple and yes, that means listing prices. Nobody wants to contact you first to find out your prices rather than just looking at the 30 other sheets posted that week to find somebody they know they'll find a good deal with.

I'm new to commissions, trying to set up my prices. How much do you think I should charge for something like this?

>>6843905
6 million dollars.

>>6843922
Damn, I thought I could get at least 6 gorillion.

>>6843316
Use a different service

>>6843905
5 bux

>>6843905
how fast are you at completing pieces? could get you 40 - 80 lowest to highest respectfully, so 50 or 60 is what would be mostly acceptable by clients

>>6844094
For something like the example I posted, like 6-8 hours unfortunately. I definitely need to get faster.

>>6844094
Does it matter the time it takes? The product will be the same.

>>6844184
NTA who said that, I'm the original anon, but if a piece takes me say 6 hours and I can only charge $60, then that comes out to a $10/hr rate. Which wouldn't be sustainable if I wanted to do commissions near or full-time.
So I can't really afford to charge $60 or less. Which means if $60 is the most people are willing to pay, I either need to improve the quality or my speed.
So that's how time factors into it. I imagine that's what the other anon was getting at.

why would you charge less for finishing faster? Speed would make you a more in-demand purchase no?

>>6844202
Start at maybe 60/70 per character if you have not real following then bump that price up as soon as you have more demand. If they want a background charge more. If they want fancy rendering or complicated character design elements add some more charges to that bitch.

If anything has like a complicated tattoo or wings, or clothing design pattern I'm immediately adding a fee.

>>6844213
>why would you charge less for finishing faster? Speed would make you a more in-demand purchase no?
I would think demand would stay the same, unless the quality also increased. So finishing faster would allow me to finish more pieces in the same amount of time, and thus earn more money per week/month.
Solid advice on the rest tho. Thx

>>6844213
Doesn't 60 sound too high for no following? I tried 5 dollars on fiverr and 0 fucks were given.

>>6844221
I think the issue was using Fiverr.

>>6844235
Is that https://commiss.io/ useable then? Is any site like that worth it?

>>6844221
>muh followers
Stop basing your prices on social media numbers. They're not a good gauge of value. You should be able to gauge the value of your work based on its quality. I'd argue that if you're not able to do that, then you're not ready to take comms.

>>6844239
I think most artists get commissions through Twitter, Reddit, and Pixiv (if NSFW). I've also heard of people getting some through Skeb, Instagram, Discord servers, and Facebook groups.

>>6844243
The problem is without any following no one will ever even know about your commissions.

Now that I had to type it, even if it's free no one will know anyways, so disregard what I said, I'm retarded.

>>6844246
>The problem is without any following no one will ever even know about your commissions.
Only if you're lazy. Don't expect work to fall into your lap.
See >>6842471

>>6844243
>>6844248
Having followers is the best way to get commissions and gauge demand. That Discord is a terrible way to try to get commissions.
Is this intentionally bad advice? If so, well done

>>6844221
I started doing comms because people in draw threads kept asking me to do em. 60 is perfectly reasonable to start out if you are int with no big following.

Also fiverr isnt really the place to shill coom. Also you're competing with people in a race to the bottom as far as pricing does. Best you can do is stick to your own price and people that like your work will come to you.

>>6844261
>Is this intentionally bad advice? If so, well done
I'm not intending to give "bad advice" if that's what you're asking. It's what I did and it worked for me on more than one occasion. And what's the alternative?
The way I see there's 2 ways to get commission work: Get popular first, then advertise you're open for business through your own social media, or seek out place where people look for artists to commission circumventing the need to first achieve popularity. It doesn't have to be that specific community, but since it's not much help to raise this point without examples I thought to point to where I personally went and found success from.
People here tend to think the first option is the only one, while I know for a fact that the second is just as, if not more viable for plenty of anons.
Sure, you could wait until you have more followers before attempting to "open comms" (read: change your bio then go about your usual business). It might even be the right choice, such as when your drawing skill isn't really where it needs to be for relying on commission work as a source of income, supplemental or not. But if you think your low follower count means you should charge low then you really should not be trying to do commissions yet, because you're essentially operating on the assumption that people are only paying for your follower count, not your skills, which is demonstrably false.
>Having followers is the best way to get commissions and gauge demand.
Only when you HAVE followers to gauge from. Yes, it's the best way to get work, but that's completely unhelpful for the vast majority of working artists who do not have a lot of followers. The best way for those who have is not the best for those who have not.

>>6844293
Why can't I just draw and get money? Fuck this world, in any MMO I can just show up to a place and keep killing mobs to get money like a fucking human being.

>>6844221
I'd rather get better and able to charge a minimum of $15~$20 than take those $5 commissions. Usually only cheap fucks that demands way more than what they pay for lingers around at that range.

>>6844293
Well in that case there's not much harm in trying to get commissions in a place like that. I wouldn't recommend it, but I'm sure there are some rare occasions where people get clients there, as you claim.
And you don't have to have a ton of followers to get commissions. People just need to know you exist and see examples of your work. I started getting commissions at ~500 followers or so on Twitter, which is almost nothing

>>6839038
NTA but I wanted to reply to you. I can see enough consistency in your work that I don't believe you to be a tracer, but what I will say though is your work isn't very pretty. You're skilled and have a good sense of form and heft and that's great for porn but the faces and characters feel a bit "ugly" even when they aren't. The faces in particular have a coarseness in the features and I think you would do better with both regular and erotic commissions if you were to draw them with more delicacy.

I also think that other anon made a good point about restricting your style for the sake of consistency for the buyer. You can advertise being flexible though, that's very desirable to a lot of people in the right context..

>>6815923
>The spirit of the professional middle man is alive and well
Just say Indian.

>>6844590
? As an amerimutt, being a professional middle man is 1/3rd of our corporate work force. Also every time i saw someone get outed for this they were american outsourcing 3rdworlders to do the art.

>>6844245
Places I get commissions for so far: Pixiv, Twitter, Deviantart, Discord. Not active on Reddit but some people do get from those. Just be active and decent, and customers will come.

im paranoid that you are all really just nondraws fantasizing

>>6844740
several people posted their work already. if you're paranoid that's your own business.

>>6844740

>>6844740
Literally posted my commission sheet with queue and recent work. Meds.

>>6844741
>several people
yeah, out of how many
>>6844747
>queue
where?
> my commission sheet
doesnt mean anything

that also leaves the remaining 80% of this thread

>>6844769
>that also leaves the remaining 80% of this thread

Including you. Now post your fucking shit, I will start.

>>6844740
ive been doing comms nonstop since the month begun bro.

>>6844769
Meds

>>6844770
i am a nondraw and just watching. i suspect at max this whole thread is made of teenagers giving advice based on their successful 3000$ a year art career

>>6844778
This is a thread about commissions, not how to quit your job and make six figures as a full time artist. I'm 29 years old

>>6844781
>I'm 29 years old
in the third world? i also noticed how you sidestepped the 3000$ a year allegation
>make six figures
not six figures, but at least enough for rent, which is the only thing that matters

>>6844788
To YOU
you dont speak for everyone that maybe just wants to do this as a hobby fore pocket money of just get their foot in the door. Leave if none of this information is relevant to you and ask one of the big name patreon artists personally.

>>6844740
>>6844769
I'm >>6842471 >>6844293 and this is my sheet.
I'm not currently taking comms, but if I was I'd still be using these prices and I know there's at least 2 clients who've wanted me to come back.

>>6845263
Are you autistic enough to have a spreadsheet with the % of people that got every category?

I'm wondering how many people just want a sketch, that's the part I most like doing anyways.

>>6845263
Damn, don't you think you're under-charging? Do you think you would struggle to get comms if you raised your prices?

>>6845321
>Are you autistic enough to have a spreadsheet with the % of people that got every category?
Lol sadly not. But yeah, most of the comms were sketches. There was one that was ink but I ended up pulling out of it because I just wasn't into what he wanted me to draw.
I can only really stomach sketch commissions anyway, I can't stand drawing stuff for other people for long so I price my sheet in such a way that the sketch is the best deal. Looking at it again, I think I'd raise my ink prices to 75/300. I specifically give a discount for higher volume sketch commissions because that's what I intended to specialize in.

>>6845328
I can definitely see an argument for this being underpriced. My intent is for the prices to be competitive, not downright cheap, and I can't say for sure that I achieved that. In any case most of my business was for 4-page sketches, which I could knock out in ~6 hours of drawing so the time:pay ratio wasn't abhorrent. As much as I crapped on that anon for pricing himself low for having no followers, I did factor my literal-who status into my prices. Maybe that makes me a hypocrite.

>>6845345
>I price my sheet in such a way that the sketch is the best deal.

Delightfully devilish.

Anyone here uses Kofi? Any good or bad experience?

>>6845345
Oh, it only takes you 6 hours for 4 pages? That's faster than I would expect. I guess your prices are reasonable in that case, although I still think you could prob afford to charge slightly more.

>>6815872
God I love Asuna's tits. I want to draw her with those boobas squeezed and molested and she's still grinning but in her heart she's unwilling but she can't stop it because she's forced to work as a service girl.

>>6845263
Uoh, nice.
Hmm I've known someone who got like $1,500 or something for a 20 page colored doujin. And a bunch of other commissioners in the same server/chat group said "that's kinda low" or something.

>>6845376
Used one but not that active so can't really comment on it. Most artists I know have a ko-fi page but never really used ko-fi. They all are much more active on Patreon/Subscribestar

Never enjoyed commissions, what about Patreon shit, would people be willing to pay for animated stuff.

coomm

>>6849694
?

>>6846819
Making animated stuff is considered instant pareon bux. People pay for mediocre sfm animation, hand drawing your stuff will pull in even more.

>>6851598
That's good to know, and I'm confident that I can make something good that I'll be into, maybe loops so it's not too hard.
Thanks anon, I'll make some animations for fun and see how people react, then I'll try to set it up and release a few loops every month exclusive to Patreon.

>it's another requester wanting a conther comm right after i finished his last one

>>6853106
that motherfucker is going to be the death of me, I just want a lil rest ffs

>>6853307
for me it's the smart ass one wanting multiple requests in one request

Do you guys try to post your work on your socials at a certain time of day to maximize engagement?

>>6853106
>suffer through a really disgusting com you hate drawing
>commissioner immediately requests another one

AAAAAAAAA

>>6853106
>>6853307
>>6853666
>>6854032
Literally just say "no" or "not interested in the material" or "not right now" or something else of that sentiment. If you don't want the commission then I don't want to give it to you, the feeling is mutual.

>>6854032
im literally going through this right now, after im done with it im done with this nigga for the near future.

Could I get some feedback on this commission TOS I drafted? Anything I should add or remove?
>Payment is upfront, in USD, via PayPal @(username)
>I won't begin the commission until the full payment is received.
>Please send reference images for specific requests (character, pose, clothing, etc).
>I will send a sketch for approval before going on to finish the rest of the commission.
>Clients will have two opportunities to request changes: once after the sketch is sent, and once more after the commission is completed. Any additional changes will cost extra.
>Change requests are not guaranteed, and excessively time-consuming requests will cost extra.
>If I am unable to complete the commission in the agreed upon time range, I will issue a full refund. Refunds will not be given in any other case.
>I reserve the right to publicly post all commissions for promotional purposes.
>Client must not edit, trace, distribute, modify, make merchandise, or claim/credit the commissioned artwork as their own. Sharing or reposting is ok, but only if properly credited.

>>6820345
So it's canadian dollars. This explains a lot lol.

>>6830451
mental illness

>>6854241
>>I won't begin the commission until the full payment is received.
no reason for this, when you have the first line above.
>Clients will have two opportunities to request changes: once after the sketch is sent, and once more after the commission is completed.
i feel like this could be taken adventaje off
instead just put, changes in the request could cost depending on ; complexity/ time consuming. ''Could'' is the word key here since you imply it can be free but is not guarantee unlike the first where i can see people just taking these 2 changes everytime since they are free.

>>6854266
Yeah, I think you're right about both. Thx!

What's the cheapest commisioners I can find? I only need some Peanuts-tier art.

>>6854620
depends on what you want, you will have to pay me 10 times more for furry shit, but theres people who will charge yuo 10 times less.

>>6854785
If you got a contact we can discuss it.

>>6841910
>bragging about making 8 dollars an hour
bro just apply for mcdonalds already

had my first comm ever today and my client liked it, never thought id see the day.
we're all gonna make it anons

>>6855309
Im the richest person in my favela, i will still do it even if it was 5 bux.

>>6855314
Nice

>>6845263
It's crazy to me that you would charge $100 for flat color for a single image versus $30 for a complete comic page. The comic page has 7 illustrations on it!!!! Not only that, but it's still rendered!!!!

>>6845263
You're undercharging, raise your prices. Your sketches look too clean to be charging so low.

Also, $30 for a whole page is freaking stupid, anon. I've seen people charging $20 for something similar to ONE of the panels in your sketch page.

>>6855535
I simply don't like coloring. I'm quite comfortable and quick at doing comic pages, but not so for coloring. I'm likely always going to price colors well above the other two because I don't like doing them.

>>6855548
Lol yeah it's definitely true that I could raise those prices.

>>6855314
Had that happened to me in 2019. Never ever in my life thought of having people liked my art enough that they'd pay me for it.

And after that the goalpost shifted and it's more like to see how far I could go with commissions or how far I could take my art before I eventually have to retire due to career/commitments/growing old/growing out of it. I just wished I was still in my early 20's though. Going to approach 30 soon and your perspective in life pretty much change.

I'm filling out my info for patreon right now. what personal info is okay to fudge and what has to be real or else it'll get you into trouble with patreon? Do I connect it to my regular bank account I use directly to it or do I use a paypal as an in-between? do I falsify the info on paypal too?

...I think I put in my actual zip code already. is it too late to change it?

>>6842471
I tried getting access to the art-posting channels on that server by DMing one of the mods like you're supposed to, but it's been over a week and they still haven't responded or given me permission (and they've been online).
What do? Should I message one of the other mods?

Weird question: I'm a NSFW artist, and my mom has access to my bank account. If I link my bank account on PayPal, Skeb, Patreon, etc., will my NSFW account username show up in any of my bank account details, such as invoices, etc.?

>>6855731
>my mom has access to my bank account.
You need to be 18 to post here.

>>6855743
That's the funny part... I'm 23.

>>6855745
Then get your shit in order. No adult man should have his money be accessible/monitored by his mother unless you have some kind of gambling addiction or other disability that makes you unwise with money.
If she's the nosy type she'll either ask you where the money is coming from or go searching herself.

>>6855812
>No adult man should have his money be accessible/monitored by his mother unless you have some kind of gambling addiction or other disability that makes you unwise with money
She doesn't really handle my finances anymore. All she really does is deposit money from family members that I get for bdays and holidays and stuff. She made the account for me when I was a teen, and I just haven't bothered to make my own yet.
She's also not really nosy, I'm just afraid she'd see it in passing while doing a deposit or sth.
I plan to get my own account eventually, but for the time being I just need to know if my username will show up in Skeb and Patreon invoices.
With PayPal, I figured out I can just pay my personal account with my art account, using my PayPal balance, and then deposit it from my personal account. But I'm pretty sure Skeb and Patreon don't keep balances and require you to link your bank before accepting payments.

>>6854252
Canadian dollars are still valuable, we are not talking about bahts or something like that. It still is good money.

How much for this furshit?

You faggots still get work after AI appeared?

>>6855715
No idea dude, didn't even know that would be necessary.

>>6855834
So bother to make your own.

>>6856272
more than ever, so much so than in taking a break the last 2 months have been brutal. the money is good i havent draw for me or havent time to enjoy other shit irl. i will try to work on my speed.