/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Can someone post order of Brent courses? He have like 4.

Any tips how I can improve?

The free floating ribs make finding the lowest attached ribs a bit hard for now but when I find them it helps me place pretty much everyting else on the torso

>>6836625
Basic Skills > Dynamic Mark Making > Form & Space > Measuring & Proportion > Contours > Shading Fundamentals > Shading Beyond the Basics

>>6836631
Sir please! No furries here!

Keys to drawing: eyes.

This was hard. For some reason I started drawing super small, so I restarted, but this try didn't end up being much bigger either.

>>6836629
colors are entierly different hue
hair doesn't have the same flow which cna be fixed if you added more movement and strands
shape of her torso on the side is not the same
her dress is not see through in the middle of her bust
needs more curvature on the side of the face
needs more work on the hair

>>6836671
A lot of artists I love always draw smaller than I expect, maybe it's a gmi sign.

>>6836629
You just need to be more accurate. Do 1000 more copies

why is my drawing not as "mad"?

>>6836666
Blog?

>>6836740
https://www.deviantart.com/noconcessions/gallery

>>6836737
In the ref, the emotion is in the eyes, in your pic the eyes are very unfinished

>>6836677
Entire different hue, damn... But it is hard for me to find the correct hue, especially on the gray color. Any tips how to find the correct color without being autistic?
All the other points are clear except for the curvature on the side of the face. What do you mean with that?

>>6836731
I get it, but just doing more copies without correcting yourself will just reinforce bad habit.

>>6836755
That guy is pointing out some small non-mistakes without mentioning the actual big one - Her right shoulder and all the nasty torso consequences it creates.

>>6836755
>I get it, but just doing more copies without correcting yourself will just reinforce bad habit.
up to a point, your eyes/hand/brain needs time to develop
trying to go from 0 to perfect accuracy is a great way to burn out, better enjoy the process

>>6836629
did a study of it myself

Drawn from a fashion show ref.

There are things I like about it, so I'm not entirely dissatisfied. I feel like it's a long way to making sketches that show drape and material more accurately, but we'll see.

>>6836755
I just meant that there needed to be less pointed edges on the outline of the face if that amkes sense
The gray is toned more towards blue, but to be honest you can hue shift the colours on the clothes to get more close to the original image.

>>6836755
>I get it, but just doing more copies without correcting yourself will just reinforce bad habit.
like >>6836763 says, in art, you make millions and millions of mistakes. It's impossible to consciously correct ALL of them. You can only shave them off subconsciously, more and more, but drawing and looking at your reference more. Good artists can draw without thinking that hard, because they can just "see" where things are supposed to go. They aren't "calculating" anything.

My real advice is: Do timed figure drawing. Or timed master copies, with a software and a folder of downloaded artwork you like. Do many many many studies a day. Do them accurately, but with volume. Get the basic shapes down accurately.

Also, copy small parts of the picture. Just copy the faces, or the hands. That will make things more manageable for you

>>6836743
That's alot of improvemnt in a short time, good job!

>>6836787
Got it!

>>6836788
What time would you recommend for both drawing and painting? Cause just doing 2 minute gesture drawings is way too short. And my biggest problem is when I draw very detailed, cause I don't practice drawing full illustration often. I often just do body part studies or face studies like you said.

Cause my rough study looked pretty fine to me, but it falls down whenever I add details and coloring to it...

It just looks off

>>6836820
Why the fuck does it rotate. Anyways the shoulders look weird

What a great day to get filtered on gestures again. But we keep trying anyways

Tried also doing >>6836629 but I couldn't just balance her so I gave her a big ass sword to lean on.

What a great day to get filtered on gestures again. But we keep trying anyways

Tried also doing >>6836629 but I couldn't just balance her so I gave her a big ass sword to lean on. Also the torso is too long but oh well

>>6836737
you haven't drawn the iris well, in the ref there's a small sliver of eyewhite beneath his left iris for example, in general the direction he's looking at in the ref seems different from what you've drawn. it's a strained angle that produces some discomfort.
you haven't drawn the bulging/creased skin parts well, like the sections on the forehead, the crows feet, the skin coming off the nose, and especially the cheek. the cheek in the ref is bulging (low tension) while the skin going down the jaw is stretched (high tension).

Oil pastels are difficult.

some reason i struggle with hips and proportions
but Hampton will show me the light

100 points if you recognize her & know her username.

COULD SOMEONE DRAW THE ROBO BEAN OR JUST DRAW THE PELVIS AS A BOX FOR THIS IMAGE PLEASE PLEASE IM CONFUSED

the model https://www.posemaniacs.com/fr/tools/viewer/poses/01GBVYEC2YPGRMV3T2KK2PYM0H

>>6836984
something like this?

4min each.

45min

wip

>>6837026
Are you doing this from imagination or from reference? There are a few Structural issues here that are a bit more pronounced than those that can be excused by the anime style.

>>6836909
ROFL
she cute!

>>6836737
Its all in the eyes anon.

>>6837032
This one is from imagination. Agree there are many major erorrs, gonna fix it after sleep tho.

>>6836737
>>6837049
forgot pic

>>6837026
*MMMhm MMmmhh MMmmmph!*

holy fuck im so bad this is so frustrating
how long will it take to get good? i just want to he able to draw cute anime shit but i cant get anything right

>>6837057
self-diagnose, what step are you stuck on?

>>6837057
depends on how well/often you put in meaningful practice and observation. pushing through the rough patches in your journey is the hardest part, but you'll come out better for it

>>6837059
all of it i dont know what im supposed to be doing. i cant draw figures or anime faces, idk the most efficient way to get to a beginner level of competence so i can start drawing stuff that vavuely resembles a human

>>6837061
i dont know what meaningful practice for what i want to do is, youtube is so full of shit thats way beyond my level its overwhelming

Hello beg. Today i was omega lazy.

>>6837057
you did not pyw so i must assume the worst. PYW!
>>6837026
coomable
>>6837003
have you though about not relying on outline and go full painter mode? for example his arm and leg on left have white highlight from opposite side (ala cylinder form), yet your dark outline kinda broke it
>>6836909
the eyes are way too far apart but it is lowkey soul
>>6836820
it is turned because EXIF metadata, gotta scrub it off before uploading. and i feel like you didnt do keys to drawing
>>6836671
how to properly use whole canvas is a topic later in the book. for now just chill and keep the grind!
>>6836666
booba
>>6836629
you didnt make the skirt see through like the ref was. but you are on right path. keep drawing
>>6837066
pick up beg book or beg course which isnt drawabox

>>6837066
To start with, are you trad drawing or digi-drawing? If you have a secure grip on the pencil and proper grade of lead you'll feel more confident drawing each line.

>>6837070
its worse than you could possibly assume
>>6837072
digital

>>6837070

It is >>6837003 here

I'm thinking about it. I've done it before but it's more of a time thing than a practice thing. My plan is to bracket an hour, then spend the last five minutes collapsing layers and painting into the edges for cleanliness before doing spot highlights. I'm still optimising my workflow and right now colour is more of a priority than anything else.

Ty for the feedback, do appreciate it.

>>6836820
remember about balance and center of weight.

How far would her arm extend in this pose?

its all ogre

>>6837080
It's a lot of things to explain but long story short: have a end goal, what you want to draw like, who you want to draw like; learn perspective, gesture, anatomy then values, color and so on.

It's a lot to explain and very little at the same time. The most important part is to draw a lot and to study with clear goals like: today I'm going to understand how perspective works in theory and start practicing how to draw simple forms in perspective. If you do like me and procrastinate you will NOT improve, you need goals and to actually draw, doesn't matter how good you are in the theory if you can't use that knowledge when it counts


Dong ho - space drawing
Phillips art - perspective
Primo - gesture
Vilppu manual
Hide channel

And so on

>>6837106
*Proko - gesture

>>6836909
SOUL

I've drawn the Gary Trudeau version of stock anime girl #63. I feel like this should come with several panels of an unchanging view of the White House.

>>6836984
it'll look something like this, just remember to break it down into the simple and complex lines, and if you know your proportions everything else should fall into place
Personally I don't like Posemaniacs because it has stiff poses, I'd recommend just looking at poses on pinterest instead

I'm tired of grinding fundies

>>6837121
that's a bit rude anon.

>>6837124
then draw something else knucklehead

>>6837127
But it's gonna look like shit :(

>>6837130
and it's gonna keep looking like shit until you draw it more

>>6837101
why she sad

>>6837167
due to the consequences of her actions

Day 19, Finished the line art on my master study

I have a question though, doing copies, sometimes practicing fundamentals and actively learning new fundamentals via books/videos, and occasionally drawing from imagination to test myself...is that all there is to it? I feel like I have to be missing something

>>6837180
To learning? I feel like I learn most, or really lock it in when I tackle longer/tougher personal pieces outside of studying.

>>6837180
looks nice but the head/hair should be wider above the ear line

>>6837197
Yeah there were a lot of places I messed up with, the jacket in particular was one of the major points that ended up making the rest of it askew
here's an overlay of the actual piece vs mine

I'm proud of what I did, but there was definitely a lot of room for improvement

Limbs are hard. Crit please, I need to work on my anatomy a lot.

Lunchbreak Arnold. 15min. Playing with lineweight.

>>6837214
read keys to drawing or brents book
and use ref

>>6837214

How do I foreshorten something tapered (like a forearms for example)?

>>6837218
Sure, I'll give it a read.

3 books that i'm planning to read, is the order that im reading good?
1 - Keys to Drawing
2 - Figure Drawing (Hamptom)
3 - Bridgeman Life Drawing
Planning to read bridgeman construction after these

>>6837214
learn to construct the figure with simple forms

>>6837214
tried to redraw your draws
consider how you would sit/stand in a pose you're trying to draw. mime it out, if it helps you.

On my 3rd day of gestures and I think I'm getting to the point where I'm not needing to reference my study material and can just start drawing and finding all the landmarks
Going to give myself another 5-7 to do tomorrow, each with increasingly tough perspectives and then go from there.

>>6837309
Excellent progress. May I ask what resources you've used to get to this level of competence?

>>6837327
Thanks! I've been watching Will Weston's figure drawing course on online-courses(dot)club
I'm only on the second lecture of seven so far and have already learned so much, highly recommend pausing and drawing along with him too

>>6837281
Thanks, that's definitely more of what I was going for. I'll try that next time I'm trying to be more imaginative with my poses. For now I think I'm just going to go back to drawing from reference until I get some fundamentals down.

I just did a piece where I drew the character and then thought it would be nice if there was an environment instead of having her just floating in space but apparently this is backwards thinking and I should be finding a good scene instead and then putting the character in it. How do I learn to draw backgrounds to put my characters in?

>>6837397
No one size fits all method, if you start with an initial figure in the void you may have to make adjuatments to fit a scene. In general asks questions "what is she doing?", "what does it look like?", "what are the hands holding?", "is she in motion? Why?" Perspective is a big issue as well. "Where is the focus?" "Who is looking at this?" "What are the top 1, 2, 3 important things that the audience must see?"
In some ways, a scene is mostly an excuse to draw the character and a believable collection of perspective lines, and value or spacing changes to lead the eye to the character.
As a personal example to illustrate, I looked at my face in the mirror and liked the lighting. I was listening to Rik Scaffer before and so the lighting reminded me of sitting in a car at night. The scene is now of a man sitting in a car at night based on the thing I liked grafted around it.

I wish I had more time to draw

Is playing around with color adjustment curves in Krita the best way to get rid of the texture of the paper underneath for scans?
It's a little difficult trying to keep the correct value of the greys

>>6837429
Compression came out like ass, sorry for the double post

>>6837429
why are you trying to get rid of soul?

Keys to drawing: tinted glass

The more I drew the worse I felt about how badly I drew the big primary shapes. Feels weird to spend time filling in the little secondary details when the "big picture" is so fucked. But I felt like I was in too deep to redraw it

>>6837335
>Will Weston's figure drawing course
which one if you don't mind me asking, they are ar few different ones.

>>6836621
I feel like I have absolutely no real creativity, idk if it’s just my depression or what it is but I pretty much lack a drive.

Beyond that though I find I really struggle with creating things like backgrounds or places for the objects or people I draw to sit or exist in.

Example the top 3 images are currently what I’m working on, the drawing which started as a study, the original object, and then a quick sorta idk attempt at placing my drawing in some sort of setting. I really lose it at even knowing what to put in a background or how to set it up. The closet I’ve ever come was the bottom image where the background and cloth were from my head (I never finished that piece just sorta lost the drive), but even the other pieces I absolutely fall apart with figuring out how to draw stuff that isn’t directly in front of me. I try taking inspiration from artists and pieces I like, but I find I’ll just end up copying them and not really creating. I feel like I’ve spent too long trying to get better at my rendering skills when I don’t actually have any creativity or ability for real creation beyond copying life or other drawings.

>>6837491
So I drew another one, and it's not much better. Weird how some more complex things I drew from ref before look more accurate than a bottle which is a much more elemental shape.

Let's call it "lots of potential for improvement".

>>6837429
Start with a better scan. Adjust as little as possible in post.

>>6837501
I wouldn’t beat yourself up too much, drawing or painting transparent objects is tough, beyond just getting the fundamental shape of them, the lighting shading, and reflections are hard to do. At your stage I’d suggest practicing with solid objects, balls, cubes or even house hold objects that seem relatively simply, and put a heavy light on them, just focus on drawing the planes of each object in proportion and then getting the shading down. Things and exercises like picrel are helpful and don’t be afraid to push your lights and darks.

>>6837309
Shit this inspires me I’ve been putting off figure drawing practice for so long. I keep telling myself “Todays the day I’m gonna really practice gesture” and then just start and feel horrible that I’m not already perfect at it. Anyways really good progress for 3rd day only

>>6837216
The use of line as shadow is definitely a nice touch, something to me about the general size of the hands reads off, but it might just be me and I’d have to see what reference you were using. All in all though awesome drawing

>>6837180
Looks good, don’t really have anything to add in terms of advice. How are you approaching your copy though ?I just want to know for personal reference. Like are you actually going through the whole ball head loomis type method of construction and then drawing the line work on top and erasing the skeletal structure, or are you just jumping straight into copying the line work and measuring the distances of things and such ?

>>6837047
>>6837111
Thank you, I am glad you like it!
>>6837070
You’re right, I tried to correct it. I hope the eyes are better now. Thank you for the advice!

>>6837165
like me some ballpoint pen kino

>>6837499
A lot of creativity is taking existing stuff and modifying/expanding upon it, so don't beat yourself up too much. What helps me sometimes is listening to music while driving. Lets my thoughts wander in a good way

>>6836909

Why are you wasting your time and effort with a shit medium? At the very least get soft pastels if you’re set on pastels.

>>6837574
I just feel like I have no real thoughts or ability to actually create, which I know isn’t a very solvable problem, but it’s just like my brain feels like mush most days

im going to specualize in poorly drawn sad anime girls

>>6837589
Is there anything you particularly care about? A subject, a piece of media, an emotion you wish to express? Maybe try to think about that and go from there. Trying to come up with something from nothing is very hard, narrowing it down might help. but yeah, I've been there, didn't create for over a month but a few days ago I got that itch and ended up making stuff again

>>6837596
>sad anime girls
based SOVL-maxxer

>>6837597
>Is there anything you particularly care about? A subject, a piece of media, an emotion you wish to express?
That’s the hard stuff for me lol, I’ve been depressed on and off for a decade now to the point where apathy and avolition are second nature. I don’t even remember what I used to care about, I’ll have momentary spurs of interest now and then, but they’re pretty fleeting and very surface level, like for a month or so I got very into tea and would buy and try many different types, same with coffee, but not really a passion.

I’ve thought of trying to draw scenes from books and old poetry that I like, but even then it’s hard for me to compose it or know even how to tell the story.
> didn't create for over a month but a few days ago I got that itch and ended up making stuff again
That’s pretty much how I am, I’ll draw a bit or paint, and then not have the drive for months until I come back to it, it’s been like that for the last 3 years

These plushies need a background, what is something that is easy to paint yet looks good?

(I know Im turd polishing but its just for fun)

>>6837620
them spiraling into the void

>>6837499
nigga just turn off the screen haha like just go and buy or collect some magic truffles my dude hahaha then consume them and unlock your brain it's that easy nigga

>making a sketch
>very happy with how it is coming out
>go make dinner and play some video games
>wake up
>too petrified to touch it

>>6837636
New layer.
Or just start something else.

>>6837637
Trad.
Guess it's back to Bridgman since my lightpad is missing.

did these over the last month or so

>>6837633
I’ve wanted to try mushrooms, but like I’m so afraid I’ll fuck up my head (it’s already pretty fucked). I don’t seem to respond to weed in a normal way, which makes me afraid that if I try mushrooms it will just do something crazy like it’s not supposed to (I know weed and mushrooms are very different, I just feel like it’s indicative of my brain possibly not getting what it’s supposed to out of it)

Something for a friend

>>6837642
>Krenz
i kneel

>>6836795
good to hear that!

>>6837651
dem rubber wrists

currently doing the copy bridgman twice meme
i tried redrawing the hands from memory but i lose too many details, what should i do?

Started playing Warhammer 3 recently, love Tiqtak'to.

>>6837578
I prefer the texture of oil pastels

>>6837665
always use reference, slow down

>>6837684

Everything made with oil pastels looks like shit though but you do you.

Keys to drawing 1-F

I can see how this book might have made some beginners quit drawing forever

>>6837708
KTD best book, it cuts all the bullshit and just forces you to actually draw

>>6837080
100% SOVL OVERLOAD

I’m not going to draw today, but not because you people discouraged me. It’s because today is a day or mourning and remembrance.

>>6837720
>and just forces you to actually draw
Forces you to draw like shit, which lower's the beginner's confidence levels.

Also the book should be renamed to Keys to Copying. It does not teach you how to draw.

I‘m not sure how but I consistently fuck up loomis heads but without being able to figure out why

>>6837743
Are you really gonna spend the rest of your days posting how you're still a nodraw in these threads? Damn, dude, you're one pathetic bitch.

>>6837772
Why are you reading garbage like FWAP in the first place? It's a terrible book and one of the worst beg traps imaginable.

Learn the fundamentals properly before drawing heads.

>>6837775
>Are you really gonna spend the rest of your days posting how you're still a nodraw in these threads?
Yes he is, because you retards keep feeding him (You)s.

>>6837748
>force you to draw from observation almost every exercise
>"it doesn't teach you how to draw"
there's no hope for this general

>>6837776
NTA, whatever gets you drawing is the best book for you though. However fuck fwap, had absolutely no fun trying it.

>>6837775
How is it any worse than you losers waking up every day eager to discourage people?
>>6837777
Aw. Babby doesn’t like being reminded what a piece of shit he is.

>>6837787
>forces you to draw
forces you to copy*
Also has meme exercises, like drawing a standing human figure in one stroke.

>>6837748
>>6837748
>can't even copy but wants to draw

wtf

>>6837776
What are some good books to aquire those fundamentals then?

>>6837798
why do you think you even have a clue what it takes to draw? why are you dismissing lessons like you know better? if you don't need help why are you even trying to learn? move onto another book and another and another and in a decade you will still be in the same spot.

>>6837808

>>6837810
stop memeing on the begs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5Oc303iTqQ

>>6837810
>30 days
too slow, with this new one you can get out of beg in just 30 minutes

>>6837808
The Art and Science of Drawing

>>6837646
No need to go for a high dose, just microdose it, no psychedelic effects but more creativity and concentration

>>6837808
I like this one. It's like Keys to Drawing but with all the fat trimmed out.

watch out begs, juggernaut coming for you

what's his name

>>6837852
thats pretty decent line work there, anon.
Was your aim to make it cartoony and chibi like?

>>6837165
how long did this took?

>>6837857
Robert Palmson

>>6837857
GOLO

>>6837857
Grog Shitstinker

>>6837863
thank you, the aim was not to make it chibi but instead to use an exaggerated perspective, making the head and forward hand much larger. it's okay if i failed it was my first try

>>6837314
she looks embarrassed now
>>6837620
I also like to draw plushies but personally I just have one Scooby Doo doll.

>>6837572
Its shit tier chinese fountain pen
>>6837868
30 mins, just like this one

Just fan art...probably won't bother fixing this.

>>6837931
Super cute gulls. I tried drawing one too.

My hatching is terrible and it ruined it more than it added to the image. I'm satisfied with my lines and overall proportions though.

I'm kinda hard stuck at drawing "figures" / "gestures". What I mean by that is, I'm going through the book "how to draw comics the marvel way" and there's this part where you draw mannequin stick figures in different action poses, and then "flesh them out". Yeah, I just can't seem to grasp my hands around this because I've probably drawn about 120 "figures" now and I can't properly flesh them out. They look autistic. Expanded more at >>6836151

>>6838012
Show.

how do I convince my psychologist that Im a drawcel? he keeps insisting that not being a good drawer has nothing to do with can't getting a girlfriend

day 57
ever since my childhood I had difficulty holding many thoughts at once, like doing big calculations in my head was challenging even though I wasn't bad at math itself
I literally lack RAM in my brain, ngmi burnt into my DNA

prob gonna work on hands this week desu

>>6838056
Write shit down you fucking ape.

>>6836621
hello everyone are mechanical pencils good for sketching, thank you

>>6837857
Vladimir Putin

>>6838077
Yes.

>>6838077
Absolutely

More head nonsense

>>6838077
Hello anon, thank you for your question! Yes, they are! Mechanical pencils are both affordable and a great resource for making clear and consistent lines, making them a fantastic choice for sketching. Have a wonderful day!

>>6838094

>>6837494
the 2019 one, it's missing the critiques portion of the class unfortunately but it's all still quality material

>>6838093
Very nice, anon. What're you studying?

>>6838104
Thanks anon, im trying to improve my 3d understanding of facial planes from imagination first...Then I will see how masters like kjg simplify them so easily, it’s a tiresome process but I must persist

Some more line autism. Doing the second page of these "ghosted planes" felt a lot faster and easier than the first one. I feel like my lines have improved too.

>>6838094
>>6838090
>>6838088
I have only been using 2B staedtlers so far, would a thickness of 2mm be suitable for a newbie like me?

>>6838120
You're welcome to play around with any number of sizes, however I would recommend you start with a cheaper variety of pencils such as Bic or Pentel which usually come in 0.5 or 0.7 mm. These are thin enough to not require manual sharpening and thick enough to not break easily. You'll find everyone from beginners to pros using these kinds of pencils. Thicker pencils like what you're suggesting are mainly used for quite large canvases/paper, but can be used in something like a sketchbook the same way as any other pencil. It's all up to preference, really.

Try not to get too hung up on what the exact right pencils or stationary is. They're just tools and any hammer that can drive in a nail is a good hammer.

>>6838055
She's right

>>6837827
loomis sisters I don't feel so good...

>>6838150
coomis bros... i...

>>6837776
Mad that no one reads your forced sticky?

>>6838120
>sketching
>B

use a hard lead , 2 or 4h are cheap and ubiquitous. when you're starting out you want one you can erase twenty times instead of three to five.

>>6838177
I second this

>>6837827
>30 minutes
Line of Action will inject me with 100% nihonjin genetics in 30 seconds, in 30 minutes I'll be king of the drawfags

Hi fruitcakes, can I get some feedback? Mainly my question would be, wtf do I do with that window. I want it there but its too damn detailed.

>>6838113
that's good bro. now put that to action

>>6838068
cute!

>>6837961
its ok bro you added information to the image I dont think it would be better without IMO

>>6837933
based sketches

>>6837931
I wish I could write with fountain pens. For some reason I find them hard to control, except those very thin one nibs with lots of friction also nice

>>6837857
duuude thats super cool idea

>>6837852
*shoots you with my ar-15* nice draw

>>6837708
There is nothing making you quitting forever. Stop expecting good drawings, the very reason you do the exercises is not to have good drawing in the end but to understand the principle that is being taught.

>>6837684
Anon, that's a great drawing! I love oil pastels

>>6837651
Anon, that's a very based idea and a good drawing! But if you seek a little critique:
- IMO the hair thick lines in the hair ruin it. It may be that its just work in progress, but yeah make it painty.
- The woman in the face and the smoke. From far it seems like her head is smoking or that it was shot and blood is coming. I do think you drew the clouds well, but IMO the way you placed them is a bit off

>>6836621
What's the most dumbed down and simplified tutorial for drawing faces?
"Just draw bro" has failed me

>>6838201
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg
"Just draw" does not mean reinvent the wheel.

>>6838200
The window would look just fine like that if you bothered to properly render the doll. As it is, everything looks soupy and nothing stands out

>>6838200
Look for the big shapes. And toss out this shit brush, pick something that's not transparent.

>>6838200
Cool bunny.

>>6836727
>>6836671

:)

>>6838200
Is that a basketball court? I'd say implement that but work abstract foliage shapes above it.

how the fuck do you draw an appealing background?
I can draw characters fairly well, but drawing an actual scene instead of just character standing in blank void is beyond me.

Sup beg. Today it is whatever. Slightly happy with the "scene" with building of a shape of a gun.

>>6838247
find appealing photo of scenery, draw what you see. i strongly believe you need to have architect gene in order to design appealing background out of nothing. remember that as far as perspective goes, the only hard requirement is to match horizon from ref to the height of camera~ground. aka if you look at anime girl in a vacuum, typically the horizon will be around her head height
>>6838093
good head nonsense
>>6838012
>>6837772
PYW
>>6837933
all your stuff is so appealing it is like you are pro already
>>6837852
is this from DOTA? very good
>>6837808
keys to drawing. art and science of drawing is okay too
>>6837708
i cannot decide if you wanted to draw CD player, that kit with makeup + mirror thots use or car with opened trunk. My pro beg tip is to slow down when you are drawing complex images like these.
>>6837693
oil pastels are practically oil painting but without getting high on acetone. never blame medium for begness
>>6837665
just draw (more)
>>6837636
this is why we invented tracing paper
>>6837620
solid cute + soul as usual teddy anon. are you that type of girl which is surrounded by plushies in her girly room or do you google plushies for ref?
>>6837501
drawing see through bottle filtered me as well. its tall order for beg
>>6837397
you are the drawer, it is your responsibility to come up with some idea lmao. anyway just hit yandex and type in random word for inspiration
>>6837271
i would add perspective made easy as 2nd one. perspective is super important and KtD dont give it enough coverage to know all important aspects of it. plus it is very short book
>>6837080
keys to drawing lmao

First time working with textured brushes for effect, usually just try cell shading type. Any suggestions for improvement would be great.

>>6838257

>>6838259
>find appealing photo of scenery, draw what you see
the problem with that is it ends up looking like a completely different art style from the character.

>>6838343

I made up a drill and stuck to it. Now where do I go from here to make my hand more stable? I'm trying to rest my hand on my ring finger and have a fairly loose grip, but it can make nailing the shape difficult, and Clip Studio Paint sometimes makes the line go too far thanks to the stabilization tool.

>>6838393
Rest my PEN on my ring finger, I mean. And I'm holding it with my thumb at a slight slant.

>>6838393
Rest my PEN on my ring finger, I mean. And I'm holding it with my thumb at a slight slant.

wip for tonight

phew. that was a tough day of mourning. can’t wait to not draw tomorrow, though.

Officially past the halfway mark of my 1st pass of copying bridgeman. Should hopefully be done with the first pass by the end of the year.

shoulder day

I love the "adult swim" style. Anyone have any advice on how to replicate it, or what elements are most recognizable for it?

>do copy i'm very proud of
>try to do some timed figure drawing practice
>it looks awful
bros, how do I get over this feeling? now it feels like the thing I was proud of was just a sham

>>6838515
vibrant colors and shitty lines.

>>6838518
think of a copy as looking up someone else's answer to a problem
and figure drawing as solving the problem on your own

4am motivation for my fellow begs

WHY DO EYES LOOK SO MUCH WORSE WHEN YOU ADD IRISES

>>6838093
Last bit of art for today

>>6838533
Maybe the irises arent in perspective? Idk post your work so we can see

>>6838518
First of all copies are much easier so it's natural that your other stuff is worse. Drawing requires lots of different skills, even professionals have major weaknesses in certain areas.
In general, a lot of emotions will come up while drawing so If you ride high during the good times, the lows will be devastating when they come crashing down. If you tone down the good moments a bit, the bad ones won't be as bad.

Witch looking-ass hand with a dislocated thumb.

>>6838515
I wish they stuck with their concept art.

>>6838518
>>try to do some timed figure drawing practice
I do it in reverse, I don't time myself with figures I do a stopwatch and try and whittle my figures down to a 5 minute record

>>6838506
>>6838510
Based
>>6837309
Huh, those look good, and they make sense. I might have to take a look at this will weston fellow
>>6837003
Drawing men is a necessary evil.
>>6836997
This looks kinda cool
>>6836920
Me too. I struggle with proportion. I also tend to overdo it on the hips and thighs and ass, but that doesn’t really bother me.
>>6836853
Swords are cooler than ballet, and the original pose actually doesn’t look balanced to me anyway.
>>6837471
Good
>>6837483
This is an interesting effect, looks a lot like ink and watercolor. But the digital equivalent of it, rather than a digital imitation of it using fake watercolor effect brushes. This is very good, anon. Nice job on the facial perspective too.
>>6837665
It might be too early in your art journey to do Bridgman. But you get mad props for having the balls to try it. You’re gonna make it for sure. What else have you done by way of study?
>>6837666
Based satan, having fun with his pencil
>>6837684
Cute
>>6838093
>>6838540
If that’s from reference, it’s very good. If that’s from imagination, it’s amazing.
>>6838530
Thanks, fren
>>6838546
I recommend keys to drawing, or drawing on the right side of the brain, and/or Brent eviston’s course for raw beginners. This will help you with learning to see accurately and how to draw what you’re actually seeing, and not what your brain thinks you’re seeing. You also need to stop chicken scratching with your lines. Doing some stuff like this >>6838113 will probably help. That hand looks bad partly because it’s bad, but also partly because your reference isn’t very well drawn either. You should find better artists to study from, so you don’t internalize their bad habits. Look for published professionals making big money with their coom art. Definitely keep doing master studies of stuff you like and art you’re into. That’s a really important piece of study that almost nobody does enough of, so good job! Have fun and keep going, anon!

first i will draw the chibi and then i will draw the animay
shrimple as

>>6838617
oops

>>6838618
gonna kms cropping the screenshot didnt fix the rotation

>>6838073
no no no no, it's not like that, like when you work with layers, i can't do that shit at all, i cant do sketch+lineart layers like I just get confused as to what I'm thinking about. Or when there are many overlapping forms I just can't

Glad with how this turned out without using any references for the pose, obviously the left hand is just awkwardly but eh, polishing a turd and all that.
>>6838610
I'm reading Keys to Drawing at the moment, but yeah the chicken scratching needs to stop. I'm trying to start drawing with the shoulder more so it led to a lot of redrawn lines when I didn't get the angle or length right.

>>6838610
My soul is healed, thanks for the praise. Seems like my trad ink mileage carried through a bit.

>>6838687
awkwardly dangling*

Im trying to make a coil, like take a cube and twist it around it's axis like silly putty, but it's just not clicking, i can't visualize it in my head, how do I do it?

>>6838726
mom! [my sister] is mocking my small penis again!

i guess ill make a new layer and try to do clothes and hair stuff now

sketch pages for the past like 4 or so days, this one was done from like the 8th to the 10th

>>6838760
and this one was done all thru today
i'll be busy tomorrow with blood work and shit like that but i'm planning to draw as much on wednesday as i can

>6838760
i like your style

>>6838200
>>6837651

Thanks for the crit! The black smoke is in fact supposed to be coming out of her Head, iI think the way it flows could have been better but im not sure how to do it

As for your painting, I think the window already looks pretty good. You can tell its one, maybe you could add the rims of the Basketball Board?

>>6838766
thanks anon, sometimes i feel like i'm just spinning tires in the proverbial mud because all of this is referenced from pinterest junk (except the ciggie drawing and the back hugging one) and i'm lacking sorely in imagination skills. open-ended question, is there a good way to train those skills aside from "just draw the damn thing you see in your brain"?

Tried to fix this. Fuck I really struggled with it, how did I do?

Trying out a new style. I enjoy drawing it but I'm not sure of its appeal

>>6838785
Actually better than original.

>>6838785
breddy gud
the left side(her right handside) is a little skewed though and i think you shrank her boobs a bit

>>6838772
sorry anon idk, im the shitter copying chibi poses so i dont think im qualified to answer butni will antways.
i think pretty much anything comes from inspiration from other works youve seen though. i dunno that a truly original idea exists, its all just bits and pieces of different things youve seen dont in maybe a different way. i guess just think of a pose you like and then think of characteristcs you like seeing in figures and draw from there. thats the point i want to get to once i have the technical skill to do it. like i know what type of characters i want to draw, the hairstyles and clothing i like, etc. i just dont have the skill to put it on paper and not have it look jank

>>6838791
its not appealing at all, im saying this as someone who likes the character you drawn

>>6838791
This style isn't really popular anymore. Feels like something you would see in a kid's magazine from the 90's

At least get rid of the pig nose and thick lips

>>6838791
I mean no offense by this, she has chimp qualities to her face, it's cute, but also might not be intended that way. If you gave her bigger ears, overalls, a helmet, put her on a Segway... baby, you got a stew going!

>>6836621
Quick anatomy difference/figure drawing from imagination, how good I am and what do I need to improve?

>>6836671
I think knowing the underlying structure is how you could improve this tenfold, the way the eyes sit in the socket tells a lot about the shadows and shapes of all the individual parts.
Try to simplify, take a look at the eyes in the asaro head for example, try to draw these and try to understand the different planes and their direction.

If you can get the impression of an eye with just a couple of lines, you know you can go into more detail later, again, try to keep it simple.

>>6838825
that's fair. i *do* like to mix in my own ideas but the poses themselves are usually fully reffed. i've done some things that require imagination, like drawing all those hexapods/multi-armed characters i like and post on /d/, but it feels like most of my purely-from-imagination stuff ends up feeling flat. maybe i just need more construction and study...

>>6838865
The picture I posted, I just realise it’s not as good, here’s one I like a bit better.

First page of ellipses

>>6836621
Very new at this, just went through the gesture video.
How am I doing? Am I towards the right direction?

>>6838878
The right direction is forward, keep drawing,

>>6838730
What?

>>6838915
the head looks like shes laughting at a small penis or something

>>6838930
i think youre just coombrained

>>6838931
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>>6838860
The girl is a bit wide shouldered.
I mean it's possible but if the goal is to see the difference between men and women it's okay to push it a bit.
Guy needs thicker waist as well as straighter legs, the angle of the femur is different between men and women.
Womens colar bones will go up at an angle while mens will tend to remain straighter.
Hope this helps a bit.

Question.

If you look at something then draw it, is it still tracing? If not, what is the correct term?

I think tracing is when you put a piece of paper over something and then trace it. Or when you overlay a picture on a program. Forgive the ignorance.

>>6838957
it's just copying with more effort, copying is still a skill though, it'll help regardless

>>6838957
>If you look at something then draw it, is it still tracing? If not, what is the correct term?
observational drawing/referencing

>>6838957
>I think tracing is when you put a piece of paper over something and then trace it.
Yep. You don't have make any decisions yourself you just go around the outlines you can see through the paper.

>>6838828
>>6838841
>>6838844
Understood. Do you think this is Any better?

>>6838974
yeah, its better

>>6838974
this makes me uncomfortable but not in a good way its like an extra creepy street caricature from a dystopian nyc

>>6838974
You're clearly really good (jelly of those nice hands) So it's all down to taste really.
What do YOU like to see?
>>6838985
Just looks jewish to me

>>6838985
>>6838988
This is my version of Connie from Steven Universe. Aged up obviously. I kind of like the desolate vibe and the goal is to make her look "used" so I guess that lines up.
The idea is to try and ground these cartoony characters by amplifying their flaws and making them more real.

>>6838791
Btw this just looks like a black chick to me.
Is it supposed to be Gwen from Ben10?

>>6838990
Oh, then you're probably on the right track with the second one.
First not really.
I think most of it will come with the mood set by the lighting and colors though.

>>6836621
playing with shadow shapes to imply anatomy mass, grouping together all the muscles in the quad with a contour over the form

Can anyone redline the legs for me? It's genuinely upsetting but I don't understand the form of a kneeling position

>>6838687
who's the character bro?

5min each. No long study today because one of the windows in my house is leaking and I need to patch it up.

Anyone got any reference for a pose like this?

>>6839006
I did my best.

>>6838093
blog?

>>6836737
Because there is no shadow in your drawing

>>6839040
>Constructoid
Lmfao opinion invalidated. Take your boxes back to /beg/.

>>6839098
Where do you think you are, you fucking mongoloid?
PYW.

>>6839099
>PYW
You were saying? Yeah shut the fuck up when you're talking to me.

>>6839103
Is this supposed to be Jinx? Why does she look like a Morrowind character?

>>6839103
lmfao

>>6839098
>Take your boxes back to /beg/.
This is /beg/, anon.

should i get a sketchbook? ive been doing digital because its cleaner but would drawing with a pencil on paper be better for a noob?

>>6839116
I do both. Digital is nice when I'm working on something concrete, sketching in a sketchbook allows for faster idea churn. And I can take my sketchbook outside the home and work wherever I want.

>>6839116
I think you should, you don't need to splurge on the high quality paper for a sketchbook, so a cheap one is always nice to have on hand. For me it's just nice to have something immediately around to sketch on in my free time, but I also like the feel of traditional sketching a lot more than I do digital. It doesn't hurt at all, and even though I prefer trad I don't think one is better over the other for a noob.

That being said, sometimes it's nice for art to not look 'clean'. The messy lines and rough shapes that come from charcoal or graphite can be turned into something truly wonderful.

>>6838610
not much desu, i did the scott robertson perspective book up until airplanes, ive also learned some anatomy, i know bones and muscle groups but can't execute on that knowledge yet, besides knowing when something looks wrong

>>6839121
>>6839127
alright imma get something then, would he nice to work on something bigger than a phone screen desu

Hello friends. I'm hard stuck on drawing mannequins and "fleshing them out" (aka drawing cylinders and spheres around them to make them real)

How do I get over this hurdle. Any practice exercises or books? I'm following "How to draw comics the Marvel way" and it doesn't have any exercises. For more info >>6837349

>>6839136
steve huston figure drawing course

>>6839136
Draw cylinders and spheres.

>>6839040
I see... I got so caught up trying to figure out if I was placing the forms in the right spot that I completely missed that I was drawing the forms wrong, thank you anon
I attempted a re-do but I haven't managed much better than this
Also I found a perfect highlight guide if anyone else was struggling with it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_U9SIOmyjY

>>6839141
https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

According to this guide, the marvel book should be enough for me. What does david finch mean by that? Should I just download the steve huston course and go along?

>>6839173
never limit yourself to one source, read and watch them all, find your favorite artists and research what they did as well

as soon as i try to draw a face it gets 10x worse oh man worried due to this issue

I tried to draw over a sketch in some free program, considering it’s my first time doing this it didn’t come out that bad besides the hands :/

I'm trying to add a twist to the torso that wasn't in my reference so I'm having trouble getting it to look right.

The red line is my current guess at the problems.

>>6839173
The guide is good enough starting out. If you are very /beg/, any guide will do because you have to learn to draw in general and have to learn how to approach the human figure. Finch focuses on drawing for comics and if your goals are different, you'd have to disregard some things and include others. Don't marry yourself to a single source.

Reading your thread you have a hodgepodge of things you want to learn to draw. Every single one of them has either specific resources or threads in relation to those, because they'll take time and effort. I would suggest you learn to draw these things in this order: people, landscapes and perspective, vehicles and robots, comics.
The process using "drawing people" as an example is
>Get a book about figure drawing like Bridgeman's. Copy it.
>Use reference pictures of people in different poses and draw them, shade them. Draw the various bodyparts seperately if you are having trouble with them.
>Learn about construction and use it to draw people from imagination. Put the in scenes and so on.
It's mostly self-guided. Attempt to recreate the artists you like, copy books about the subject you want to learn, use pictures as references, draw from imagination and go back to studying if the figures look off. Repeat for everything else.

>manmade horrors beyond human comprehension

I HATE GESTURE I HATE GESTURE I HATE GESTURE I HATE GESTURE

Hey /beg/

Does anyone here have a resource that they really enjoy for shapes/general design? I’m also searching for something that could help demystify appeal.

For appeal, Ive been looking at and studying things that make me feel a sense of awe, I just want to make sure I’m reviewing other viewpoints. I bet anything I have some blind spots that could use some illumination.

does anyone know where i can get a cracked csp? opentoonz sucks dick

>>6839254
>>6839254
>>6839254
>>6839254
Move whenever

>>6839260
New edition
>>6839260
>>6839260
>>6839260

>>6839175
My favorite artists are some random chinks on pixiv making sexy looking anime girls with huge titties, not sure if they'd have an entire background on how they got to that point....

>>6839213
>Finch focuses on drawing for comics and if your goals are different, you'd have to disregard some things and include others
As of this moment my focus is on drawing comics. My planned route is david finch guide + beg stickies -> asg stickies and then I'd approach towards actually copying artists on pixiv/twitter (for studies) and making my own from imagination.

>>6839233
>learn good shapes
Sinix uses shapes I find really appealing. Can't go wrong with Proko's beginner course either, it's easy to find, if you get around.

ive drawn for like a total of 3 hours and I already hate myself and im thinking about seeing my old therapist

>>6839457
It only gets worse anon :<

had fun with some models from Windows Paint 3D would recommend