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6822552 No.6822552 [Reply] [Original]

Little brown poo man telling you to draw gorillion boxes is like a virgin saying sucking a banana is good if you want to become a good kisser.

>> No.6822562

racism isn't cool

>> No.6822563

>>6822562
/thread

>> No.6822604
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6822604

>>6822562
>>6822563

>> No.6822771

>>6822562
BASED BASED BASED

>> No.6822786

>>6822562
This.
While I agree that drawabox is retarded and drawabox man is a scam artist, it's not because of his skin color.

>> No.6822790

>>6822562
I mean, yeah

>> No.6822801

>>6822562
facts

>> No.6822804
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6822804

>>6822552
>TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THIS PAGE
>"Simple Forms", our building blocks
>12p

>> No.6822813
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>>6822562
Holy based

>> No.6822834

>>6822552
It's for millennials who wasted their teens and 20s and desperately want to learn a skill and think they need to grind out the fundamentals to get to do what they really want to do, but since they never developed a personality they never learn what they want to do so they grasp onto something that's entirely grinding out fundamental skills forever.

>> No.6822838

>>6822552
Wat video is dis?

>> No.6822840

>>6822834
Pure unfiltered projection in this post

>> No.6822846

>>6822834
Why don't you doomers ever post an alternative way

>> No.6822849
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6822849

>>6822846
there's no escaping the box

>> No.6822862

>>6822562
>>6822563
>>6822771
>>6822786
>>6822801
>>6822813
found the discord trannies

>> No.6822866
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6822866

>>6822862
>>6822771
>>6822813
leftoids and trying to appropriate words and terms to mean wtv they want instead of intended meaning
classic

>> No.6822871

>>6822862
Even though i hate trannies

>> No.6822872

>>6822862

I know you have autism and people need to be patient with you but, in case you couldn't tell, everyone was pretending for the fun of it.

>> No.6822877

>>6822562
real af

>> No.6822878

>>6822872
>everyone was pretending for the fun of it.
who is everyone? do people actually group post on here like "hey friendos lets all comment on the 4chins teehee" ÿeah good idea, what should we all comment about? " and so on and so on

and her ei thought this was a 18+ board

>> No.6822882

>>6822872
>I know you have autism and people need to be patient with you but, in case you couldn't tell, everyone was pretending for the fun of it.
after lurking some discords from the few previous discord threads, i dont doubt anymore the anon(s) that say some discord servers full of twitter trannies like to shit up the board, pathetic

>> No.6822883

>>6822872
I don't know if anybody told you this anon but this is the artist board
Lots of us are normies

>> No.6822889
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6822889

>>6822562
>racism isn't cool
unless its against white people amirite fellow sisters?

>> No.6822893

>>6822878
> do people actually group post on here like "hey friendos lets all comment on the 4chins teehee" ÿeah good idea
That was no*ebros server, yeah

>> No.6822902

>>6822893
seems like more than that one do it, its either the fujos and the oc tards or people rpetending to be them for the lolz, but it is tiring

>> No.6822904

>>6822889
Whites use soijaks the most so I can see why they'd be discriminated against

>> No.6822907

>>6822866
Didn't "based" come from some black dude?
If you like a word you can use it

>> No.6822910

>>6822907
That doesn't count

>> No.6822911

>>6822907
>If you like a word you can use it
you must be 18+ anon to post here
even the trannies in the cute boy wtv gen understand this

>> No.6822914
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>>6822907
i agree, there shouldnt be any private words

>> No.6822915

>>6822911
Yeah, I use words I like, nigger

>> No.6822916

>>6822552
I wasted about 2 weeks in total on this shit. Then I just "draw what I want lol" and I got much, much better in drawing what I actually want to draw. Thank god I didnt get stuck into this crap

>> No.6822918

>>6822915
>nigger
how dare you, pls be polite or me and my fellow sisters will use our dicks to teach you a hard lesson

>> No.6822921

>>6822916
you will bow to our new indian overlords and tranny queens or else

>> No.6822923

>>6822846
Literally anything other than drawabox. If you get through the first two lessons and haven't evaluated the time spent to improvement ratio as poor I don't know what to tell you.
>>6822840
Show me anyone who's made it through drawabox as their introduction to drawing and had anything to show for it. Either you quickly learn it's not an effective method or you're the kind of person who will always just need to grind their fundies more and c get through the next resources and then they'll finally be able to draw what they want.

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>>6822918
Oh no please don't

>> No.6822938

>>6822889
No?

>> No.6822939

>>6822562
He called him brown. He is brown.
>>6822786
Who said it was because he was a pajeet? If I say OJ was a murderous nigger, does that mean he murdered people because he was a nigger?

>> No.6822942

>>6822939
As you may know, the use of racial slurs are commonly related with racists.

>> No.6822948

>>6822939
>OJ
>Actually murdered anyone

>> No.6822962

>>6822552
>sucking a banana is good if you want to become a good kisser.
It is good, you just didn't specify what you wanted to kiss.

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6822963

>>6822604
>t.

>> No.6822967

You only need to look at his art
And the fact that he threw a hissy fit and shut down his reddit over the api thing
The dude is a hack and as always been, he attended a few courses with vastly better instructors then started to poorly regurgitate their instruction
Just watch Peter Han's courses and read his books

>> No.6823020

>>6822552
Gotta give it to him, he developed a good method to trap begs in permabegdom and get rid of the competition. I still laugh whenever I see a retard posting his boxes

>> No.6823034

>>6822882
Full of underage retards talking about how hard their little schools are and trannies, yeah.

>> No.6823045

>>6822923
>Literally anything other than drawabox.
So no specific alternative, just criticism. Got it.

>> No.6823062

>>6823045
Not gonna spoon feed your, retard.

>> No.6823065

>>6823045
>So no specific alternative
pretty sure you'd get better results following a blues clues episode

>> No.6823193

>>6822834
right at the first half, projected too much towards the end anon

>> No.6823209

>>6822942
What racial slur was used by op? poo man?

>> No.6823215

>>6823045
Figure drawing you nigger, to begin with bawx drawing is dogshit. You should be learning muscle group compounds before that.
Anatomy is literally the only thing worth grinding on, everything is feels basically and comes with just doing more art.

>> No.6823223

>>6822562
don't mind me,just watching everyone losing it over a weak bait

>> No.6823225

OP is a faggot and will never GMI

>> No.6823243

>be the dab curry
>tell everyone to not overdo the exercises and draw for fun
>board do the opposite
>IT'S A FUCKING PERMABEG MEME TRAP I'M NOT IMPROVING
never change /ic/

>> No.6823271

>>6822904
Anyone using it deserves to be discriminated against anyway

>> No.6823279

>>6822907
>Not knowing about lil b the based god
Go back

>> No.6823285

>>6822562
anymore again
> draw a long buff on his MARLBORO FOR MEN cigavap

>> No.6823328

>>6823209
I was talking about your example.

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6823774

>>6822562
>>6822786
>>6822801
>>6822813

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>>6822552

What does looks have to do with it? People say I'm good looking and I draw fat titty bitches.

Ultimately, a person's appearance shouldn't affect the art. The art advice is still advice. Welcome, everyone, and (you). to this. Anonymous people not posting their work criticizing people who post their face and work.

Fuck you guys. You ought to be ashamed.

>> No.6823821

>>6823819
is that Bucci? Holy Based if true

>> No.6823964

>>6823774
Why are you showing us a picture of your wife?

>> No.6823966

>>6823819
protect boxman at all costs.

>> No.6824221
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6824221

>>6823966

頑張れ GO FOR IT! d(>_< )

>> No.6824249

>>6822562
THIS!! SO MUCH HECKING THIS ZIZTER!!

>> No.6824261

>>6823045
You can try out Ctrl+Paint if you want to learn up digital painting. They also touch on traditional works, values, design exercises that you could probably use as your portfolio.

DaB is only for someone who absolutely has no idea how to draw. At all. Imo drawing 500 boxes (or anything, really) in isolation is a horrible exercise.

>> No.6824273

>>6823045
Also you can check out Saito Naoki's "2 Month Improvement" regime/training. But that's more for people who can already draw and already have some fundies but wants to 'improve quickly'. In a way it's more of a "make an art journal and record what you did and its result"

>> No.6824341

>>6823243
/thread

>> No.6824358

>>6822963
I'm not shitalian, try again negroidlover.

>> No.6825300

>>6824221
just keep doing what you're doing something tells me you will find rich patrons to support your work one day.

>> No.6825303

>>6822562
is this based or based?

>> No.6825378

>>6823819
>>6824221
this truly represents 90% of /ic/, for the other 10% we need a femcel fujo and a twitter tranny

>> No.6825396

>>6822963
>pic related
I hate knowing who he is.

>> No.6825468

>>6822552
>>6823045
>>6823215
>to begin with bawx drawing is dogshit. You should be learning muscle group compounds before that.
look at this fucking imbecile. Yeah muscular anatomy should be the first thing you learn in art, because obvious, no one would ever want to draw any object other than the human body....

In case there's an anon here with a functioning brain trying to decide whether to do draw a box or not
Yes you should not do draw a box, i will tell you what to do instead. BUT the anons here shitting on it are just idiots.

The anons here shitting on Draw a box are not doing so because they have analyzed its goals and methodology and decided that its ineffective.
They will shit on anything thats about grinding fundamentals because for some reason they believe grinding is antithetical to "art". That art is some spontaneous creative endeavor that is stifled by rigid practice or system of thought.
The reality is, they just dont have the discipline to stick with any kind of structured learning regiment (all of them probably got shit grades in school) and they hate the idea that such an approach could actually be effective, because if it is effective, then they look bad for being unable to stick with it.
So its very important for them to shit on any approach to learning that is structured

Again, structure never worked for them, because they cant be consistent, they can't pay attention and follow instructions, so they respond assuming structure doesnt work at all, rather than realizing THEY are the problem.

Reminds me of when i just started lifting weights, and i swore that "oh i must just be an Ectomorph, its just impossible for me to put on muscle" (some anons still believe this shit on /fit/)
Until i decided you know what im going to give this one last shot, im going to do this properly, diet, excersize, schedule, sleep.
And i blew the fuck up. Within 3 months of consistency, people were audibly shocked at how big i had gotten when they saw me.

(cont)

>> No.6825493

>>6825468
>>6823045

So why is drawabox shit and what should you do instead

Draw a box has 3 goals.
Develop your mechanical accuracy and control (drawing straight lines and ellipses)
Develop perspective intuition
Develop useful constructive techniques

Draw a box is only useful for the first goal. And even then, not that great.
The first goals is fine, if you are an anon shitting on draw a box, and you cant put 2 points down on a paper more than 5 inches apart and confidently draw a perfectly straight line between them
And then lay another line on top of the first, but still have it look like just 1 line but darker, then maybe you should do draw a box.
Im not gonna explain why its important for an artist to have precise control over their arm

Last month i grinded mechanical accuracy separate from draw a box because drawabox wasnt autistic enough. And i intended to do draw a box this month to learn perspective and develop intuition.

The word "intuition" in is very important here. Intuition is the goal of almost all aspects of learning art.
Developing intuition means getting to the point where you can do something WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT IT.
Art simply involves too many mental processes, you cannot consciously perform all the tasks you need to, to draw well, you have to let your subconscious handle most of the tasks.

There are lots of intuitions you have to learn in art.
The primary one for example is Proportional intuition, the ability to look at a reference, draw it at a different size and still have all the lengths and angles be in accurate proportions. A good artist doesn't break out a ruler and compass for this, they even stop doing that thumb measuring thing with a pencil.

But that doesnt mean you shouldnt TRAIN these skills specifically. Specific training is the fastest way to develop individual intuitions.
So back to perspective intuition, which is an internalized idea of how object contours behave in 3d space, when seen by human eyes.
(cont)

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>>6822552
you're right, only good looking White People can teach Art

>> No.6825509

>>6825468
>>6823045

1) Draw a box DOES NOT TEACH PERSPECTIVE. He literally says so in the intro

Being able to understand and do something consciously is the first step to being able to do it unconsciously, aka intuition.
No one who does draw a box actually walks a way with a real understanding of the rules and components of perspective. His treatment of the topics of vanishing points and view planes and cone of vision are all very shallow.
DrawABox guy seems to think you can develop good perspective intuition by just drawing boxes, without any of the technical knowledge, and divorced from the real world scenarios they represent.
Because his treatment of perspective is so loose and vague, people fall into the habit of just ignoring the technical side and just drawing boxes that "look right".
But your boxes that look right are probably wrong, and at that point you're not really learning anything.

Fortunately there are better resources.
Ironically, "Perspective Made Easy" is one of the most indepth books on perspective ive read
Its about as detailed as than scott robertsons how to draw, and its much easier to read.
Loomis's successful drawing also has a great chapter on perspective, but is also a hard read

The excersizes in PME asks you to draw objects that exist under different conditions, that you can find around you, so that you can relate the technical concepts to physical conditions you are experiencing.
This is a much more effective way to build intuition. You start with the technical understanding, then relate it to the raw visual/physical expirience. Then you draw.
This is also much less tedious than just drawing 250 arbitrary boxes
DrawAbox starts with shallow technical understanding, then asks you to grind a detached abstraction of this phenomenon that you dont even understand in the first place. Its dumb

>> No.6825513

>>6825509
Perspective Made Easy teaches you how to subdivide space in perspective, then says go draw the side of a building with a lot of windows, or some roman arches to try it out
It teaches you how shadows work in perspective then tells you to go put together a still life to try it out
It teaches you how slopes drastically alter perspective and then tells you to imagine certain sloped scenarios and draw them in perspective, using your knowledge of how slopes work
Its a much better way to internalize the technical knowledge, and the different conditions under which it should be applied

It covers topics such as
placing objects arbitrary on the plane
Scaling objects in space accurately
Even/Uneven subdivision of foreshortened spaces
Ellipses/Cylinders/Cones etc in perspective in various orientations
Rotation and Tilt
Hinges
Reflections in perspective
Shadows in perspective
Slopes (sloped roads actually create multiple different vanishing points for objects along it)

Along with PME, you should watch this excellent youtube video that covers the technical components of perspective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDanHdjPJVs

I dont even use youtube videos to learn art. I watched 1 proko video once and realized youtube was the wrong place to learn art from.
But this guys video on perspective is worth its weight in gold for actually clearly understanding what the fuck is going on with vanishing points when objects rotate.

next is why his approach to construction is retarded

>> No.6825514

>>6825513
>>6825468

His approach to construction is just absurd.
Drawing is not 3d modeling.
You need to be able to switch between a 3d conception of the form and 2d conceptions of shapes, between line drawing of contours and mass drawing of value masses, freely based on the nature and orientation of the subject.
You dont need to 3d construct a flower, that just makes it look stiff and mechanical.
You can draw a flower by copying its 2d contours and it will still look 3d, but it will look much more expressive
because its easier to make beautiful curves when you're thinking in 2d, than trying to draw curves through 3d space inside your cube.

Construction is just one tool in your toolkit as an artist. You use it when its the most effective tool.
This drawabox guy for some reason, thinks its the only and best tool ever, and you should use it for everything you draw. Retarded

>> No.6825541

>>6822562
Kek based.

>> No.6825548

>>6825514
>This drawabox guy for some reason, thinks its the only and best tool ever, and you should use it for everything you draw. Retarded
It's dynamic sketching derangement (Peter Han, his teacher). It's produced a school of clueless constructoids who *at best* make semi-competent drawings of animals and objects in fisheye perspective, but make utterly soulless art.
The idea is popular because like many popular ideas (burn 50 lbs. in 2 weeks with this special routine!), it overpromises: learn primitive volumes + perspective, and you can draw anything you can ever imagine effortlessly. It suggests you can be like Kim Jung Gi, a likely visual savant, who by the way was capable of thinking graphically and flatly anyway and didn't construct literally everything (he was a cartoonist). Any time someone talks about rotating cubes in their head like a chuuni retard, you know they're a big ol fat /beg/gar

>> No.6825549

>>6825509
>>6825513
>>6825514
hey that's a cool review and all but have you considered simply posting le ebin /pol/ meme and perhaps also a funny buzzword you learned on the 4chinz just last week

>> No.6825560

>>6822552
This shit shouldn't take more than a week to finish. Who cares?

>> No.6825579

>>6825509
tl;dr
>i got filtered by fucking boxes

>> No.6825584

>>6825579
I read the entire thing, that is literally the opposite.

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>>6822562
whats with all the trannies in this place?

>> No.6825598

>>6825589
>>>pol

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6825620

Here we go, let me clear my figurative throat, ladies and gentleman of the lurker /ic/ jury, let me make one thing abundantly clear:

I did not have sexual relations with monica lewinsky, but I have taken the following picture with bill clinton.

So let's begin, this uh, shitshow, sorry- trial:

>>6822552 (OP, who is Anonymous, who created said thread on 09/01/23(Fri)04:53:30)

You are hereby GUILTY of the following:

>Little brown poo man

Equating an person of certain ethnicity and their skin tone to fecal matter while simulatenously criticizing said persons STATURE PHYSICAL APPEARANCE AND DRAWABOX.

YOU ARE GUILTY OF BREAKING THE FOLLOWING INTERNATIONAL 4CHAN RULES:

>You will not post outside of /b/: Troll posts, Racism

>YOU WILL NOT POST or request PERSONAL INFORMATION ("dox")

>Please refrain from posting the following:
>Irrelevant catchphrases or copypasta
>Ironic shitposting

>Impersonating a 4chan administrator, moderator, or janitor is strictly forbidden.

I AM NOT AT THIS TIME A MOD OR AFFIALIATED WITH THE 4CHAN TEAM. I HAVE NEVER WORKED FOR 4CHAN.

>You will not upload, post, discuss, request, or link to anything that violates local or United States law.

I AM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN OF THESE UNITED STATES. I AM NOT A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL OR POLICE.

NEXT, you are hereby GUILTY of breaking THE RULES OF /ic/ :

>All images and discussion should pertain to the critique of visual artwork.
>Only constructive criticism will be accepted. Rude or offensive comments will result in a ban.

AND FINALLY THE CHERRY ON THE SHIT SUNDAE THAT IS (you) OP:

>Don't bring community vendettas onto this board. SINGLING OUT INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS for the purposes of trolling them will not be tolerated. All discussion of artists should pertain directly to THEIR WORK, and NoT ThEiR PeRs0nAl LiVeS.

and NOT ONLY IS OP GUILTY OF BEING THE FOLLOWING:

A FAGGOT

but he is also probably:

UGLY FOR NOT POSTING HIS FACE
A NGMI ARTIST FOR NOT POSTING IS WORK

>> No.6825621
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6825621

and I, a SINGLE UNMARRIED WHITE (BUT IF YOU PASS FOR WHITE, YOU ARE WHITE) CIS MALE

EXCEPT DOESNT BISEXUAL IMPLY TWO GENDERS GL B T Q

I HEREBY DECLARE

GLBTQ INVALID under the orders of ﷺ

GL is valid.

BT AND Q ARE BULLSHIT.

and if you have a problem with this or any other statements i have made, please write a letter to my address:

Dr. Cindy Yornoods
PO BOX
urmommaho, OH
27244
urdaddealsfentandmeth
TRANNYVILLE USA


im the dude posting his work and his face for no reason. kay? because im not afraid of being "Cancel"ed of this PC bullshit.

The police are a non existant entity, they drive around in cars marked "Public Safety" instead of police. Public safety officeR? Well then I must be a public safety artist because why not? Oh im sorry is that bullshit? Im a police artist. No youre not, Yes I am.

Snitches gets stitches? NAh nigga, you dont understand:

Y'all DONE SON. ITS OVER. THE TRANNIES FUJOS RUSSIANS AND CLOUT COCK SUCKERS LIKE >>6823821 AND THE INNOCENT STANDBYER FUCKHEADS LIKE >>6822563 >>6822604 >>6822771 >>6822786 >>6822790 >>6822801 >>6822813 >>6822862 >>6822877 >>6822889 >>6822939 >>6823223 >>6823285 >>6823774 >>6824249 >>6825303 >>6825541

WHO DID NOT REPORT THIS THREAD, AND INSTEAD APPLAUDED "racism isnt cool" DESERVE CAPTAIN OBVIOUS AWARD OF THE YEAR

IM OUT. MODS, I DONT CARE WHAT YOU DO, I THINK THIS THREAD SHOULD BE LEFT UP EVEN THOUGH IT BREAKS THE RULES BECAUSE IT FUCKING SHOWS /ic/ FOR WHAT IT IS.

>> No.6825631

>>6825598
Im gona RACE all over the screen, run boy, RUN FROM CANDYMAN!!!

>> No.6825644

>>6825621
but i reported the thread tho
now your post

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>>6825548
it's a bit sad the original intent of schureman's work has been diluted so much
if you look at his sketchbook, you won't find a box, but instead a collection of observations from the natural world
even construction isn't emphazised as much, the idea is simply to break things into simple shapes and add complexity in steps

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6825730

>>6825644

please please please
fucking do it faggot and while you do
remind me what rules i broke
because last time i checked

MY DUMB ASS AINT BANNED ROFL

HAHAHAHA MOBILIZE AND SANCTION/CANCEL ME WITH YOUR TRANNIES ON SUICIDE WATCH ARMY

OH WAIT A MINUTE

YOU DONT HAVE AN ARMY

SO IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY

(you)

BETTA SHUT
THE
FUCK
UP

ahhahahahahahhahahhahahaahaha aids i have aids and am dying of laught oh lordy sweet black baby jesus help me i cant

>> No.6825739

>>6825730
>tripfag

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6825753

>>6825739

>anonymous

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6825759

Whats wrong guys?

Its sunday.

Y'all at church or alseep?

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6825763

Roll for dubs.

Now I broke the rules. Now you can report me : ^ )

or actually take a screenshot and post it on reddit PLEASE oh please do

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6825764

Second roll for dubs.

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Third roll for dubs

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6825766

last roll for dubs

>> No.6825768
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>>6825766

Dubs I win.

>> No.6825777

>>6825753
>permabeg

>> No.6825782
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>>6825777

cute trips pyw

>> No.6825786

50

>> No.6825787
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>>6825777

fr your dumb ass shouldve gone to the casino instead of wasting your life on 4chan

>> No.6825792

>>6825782
>samefag

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>>6825792

there are so many letters in the alphabet

but my favorite three

this rhymes with george dubya

P Y W

>> No.6825796

Everyone on this thread is a faggot.
Specially box schizo.

>> No.6825799
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6825799

oh what

nothing?

have you run out of meme buzzwords you ruski fuck?

because i see a lot of attempts at trolling me

and not alot of

posting

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>>6825796

omg

anon called me a faggot and a schizo

more like sociopath

but please continue to hurt my feelings

oh wait a minute

I HAVE NO FEELINGS

anons suc k i n g b o x s c h i z o d i c k

he mad he mad he mad whats the character count? 2000?

i wont wate any more precious time

post


please


post


your

/beg/

tier

SHIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTT~FIGAROFIGAROFIGAROFIGARO

>> No.6825813

>>6825787
it hit close home

>> No.6825905

>>6825493
>>6825509
>>6825513
>>6825514
A good critique, especially about building intuitive perspective skills, but it kinda fell a little flat when you got to the construction part. You didn’t really thoroughly explain what was wrong with his teaching/approach to construction or give a superior alternative to learn constructive drawing.
I don’t think you really made a good argument as to why you shouldn’t do DAB to learn construction, only that construction alone isn’t the be-all end-all. So I’m not convinced of DAB being bad with respect to construction per se.
All you said was that understanding how to make pleasing graphic 2d shapes is also important, and just understanding volume and construction alone is not enough to make appealing art. I agree with that bit. Any good resources for learning that sort of thing? Any better recommendations for learning construction?

>> No.6825979

>>6825905
>I don’t think you really made a good argument as to why you shouldn’t do DAB to learn construction, only that construction alone isn’t the be-all end-all.

Well that's fair, I wasn't really trying to say that you shouldn't do draw a box to learn construction
I was saying that if you do draw a box, you may come away with the wrong impression of "how to draw", you might come away thinking that drawing is about construction, rather than construction just being a tool.
I don't actually know if draw a box is a good way to learn construction specifically, just that it's certainly a bad way to "learn how to draw" overall, which is what it markets itself as

Now that I think about it, in all the books I've read, construction is never really given specific treatment, there's just the general idea that you work from the most general shapes and forms of a subject down to the more specific ones
I've read a lot of books from different kinds of people and artists , spanning from the 1800s to modern publications.
And now that I think about it, literally none of them have a chapter on "construction", other than books about drawing mechanical things like vehicles. "Technical drawing" I guess

I'm not suggesting any particular conclusion be drawn from this, just pointing out the anomaly.

>> No.6826014

>>6825905
As for resources to learn about appeal, one book isn't enough but
The single best standalone book I've seen on the topic is Harold speeds "The practice and science of drawing" particularly the chapters on Rythm or line and Rythm of mass.
It's a very difficult thing to summarize without sounding like ur talking bullshit.
It's basically about the concepts of unity and variety being the core of appeal.
That their is a purely abstract level on which the relationships of Pictorial elements can be engaging or boring, completely separate from the perceived meanings of the symbols.

Has lots of little food for thought that drives the concepts home, like the idea that the most aesthetically appealing curve is an egg shape in which the rate of curvature changes at every point, the maximum amount of variance a symmetrical figure can have without breaking its continuity
Or how if one side of a human bodypart is convex, the opposite side is almost always concave

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>>6825468
>>6825493
>>6825509
>>6825513
>>6825514
>>6825979
>>6826014
Gmi, anon. But remember to do your memory drawings. Draw your reference, then put away your reference + drawing, and then draw it again. It's the one thing that genuinely makes you improve 10x faster than anyone else. Do not fall into the trap of only drawing from life / masters and never doing any memory sketches.

Guptill talks about it in his pen and ink book, many times. Read about it there. It's also talked about in the David Finch study streams, and the Krenz Cushart lectures

>> No.6826122

>>6825979
>>6826014
I see, thank you based effortposter. >>6826051
Yeah I’ve gotta get into doing memory stuff. Thanks for the reminder.

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I only did 120 boxes.
I finally understood how it worked after 50 but I did 120 anyways.

>> No.6826164

>>6825905
>>6825979
>>6826014
>>6826051
>>6826122
>>6826150
based anons
wagmi

>> No.6826231

The fuck happened in this thread?

>> No.6826234

>>6825513
Based. You've convinced me to grind PME instead of boxes.

>> No.6826271

>>6826051
>But remember to do your memory drawings
Yup, literally read a the book called "Memory Drawing"
Im thinking about writing a webapp to generate extra memory drawing excersizes like the ones in that book
And before other anons reply with what they always do, no, im not doing that to procrastinate actually drawing
I draw every day. Im working through bargues and hardings lessons on drawing to develop accuracy currently

>> No.6826287

>>6825548
>Any time someone talks about rotating cubes in their head like a chuuni retard, you know they're a big ol fat /beg/gar
>>6804796
>>6790085
>>6790456
>>6794897
>>6801207
>>6803177
>>6804796
>>6808133
>>6810042
>>6811641
>>6817513
>>6820592
>>6822081
lol

>> No.6826306

>>6826287
Where did that guy say anything about rotating cubes in his head? He rather emphasized using Blender and linear perspective in his process to aid with visualization.
He's also drawing rectilinear machine forms in intentionally distorted perspective, perhaps the one time where heavily cubic thinking is most relevant. And even then he's not a no-ref /beg/tard who fantasizes about being able to draw the universe at every angle without ever having studied its parts

>> No.6826619

>>6822552

You're literally being spoon fed and still manage to fail. That's on your dumb crusty ass anon.

>> No.6826661

>>6826287
Unfinished shitty art.
Post a finished drawing, not a technical schematic done with 500090 straight lines.

>> No.6826671

>>6826661
pyw, retard