/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

high quality OP

why do I have to keep shitting so much?
3-4 times a day

>>6812169
Just turn your bathroom into your studio. Loomis discusses this in his largely ignored book “Fun with a Poop.”

>>6812169
drink more water, eat more fiber, exercise
you may also be trying to digest something you can't handle, like lactose.

I tape all of my drawings to the wall, roughly clumped together in groups. Every year or so I rip down one of these chunks, and inhale as much of the dust as possible. the dust has been gathering creative energies from the drawing so its important in my artistic growth to harvest that.

gestures, any tips? Also how do you move on from that to draw the whole figure, just draw on top on a new layer in a more detailed way?

when my micron pens start to go grey are they ever gonna start working better again or are they fucked permenantyl

>>6812185
forgot pic

>>6812164
>>6812169
>>6812172
>>6812176
>>6812177
>>6812186
quality posts
10/10

>>6811083
Thanks a bunch for the help anon
God bless

>>6812185
go watch steve huston figure drawing course

>>6812205
i have art anatomy for beginners 2020. where do i get figure drawing, ic link is dead

What do you guys think about my post-modern, ironic, meta commentary about capitalism

>>6812186
Someone answer this I have the same question

>>6812188
>>6812185
Gestures are overall good, you get the idea across. Yeah, just draw on top and start adding structure. Just keep in mind the proportions and balance a bit more when you do the gestures.

>>6812185
>>6812188
Here's a brief exercise for you. I want you to find the curve and straights in the torso. You can add a top and bottom or elaborate further the orientation of the masses with cross contours(ellipses). Add a center line if you'd like. Trace a couple to get a feel for it, then do it without tracing. The point of this exercise is mostly to add interest through contrast. More something to keep in mind. This curve and straight will help the legs in drawing 2 row 1 especially.

Why am I depressed? I like bieng a neet and alone and in my room most of the time, but apparently that's why I'm depressed according to my mom and sister? Could they be right?

>>6812162
Whoa wtf, an actual good book being recommended on ic?
Someone here actually knows who harding is, and isn't just recommending some 20 year old Chinese youtuber to learn from?
Inconceivable

>>6812246
Yeah probably

>>6812245
>>6812242
thanks for the advice

I have a photoshop question guys
Can you draw a straight line with the lines tool using a brush? How do you do it?
I can't find anything on google

>>6812255
Just hold shift to draw a straight line with the brush. Rotate it from vertical/horizontal if you need to.

>>6812277
Fuck I had no idea it was that simple

>>6812307
Forgot to add, you can also just hold shift and click around, but you might get inconsistent lines if you use pressure sensitivity.

I'm about to draw something terribly horryfing but fuckable at the same time now holy fuck I'm horny right now

Reposting for feedback. Trying to learn to feel the flow/gesture/rhythm more. (And a little bit of trying to make shadows more coherent.) What’s the most fucked up thing here? I know I’ve just gotta git gud, but if you notice any consistent pattern of retardation, please tell me. Your feedback has been very helpful so far.
>>6812116
Yes, much better. Looks like it’s now uncomfortable and slightly lewd rather than blatant torture. I think the milk is a little too thick in this version, though. Overall, it’s a lot better than before!

Every /beg/let should take to heart that their shitty animu waifu will get lost in the crowd while the backgroundGODS will monipolize all (you)s. No matter how cute you make her, people want a scene. The mass desires a vision of a waifu living her wonderful life.

>>6812337
Godspeed, anon. Transform the horny into the most lustful coom and jack off in the glory.

i drew today. Mission accomplished. Time to sleep

>>6812481
You consistently seem to elongate the ribs and midsection. Mix in a single longer study with the gestures where you'll measure as if a brotha gonna cap your ass if you'll get the proportions wrong.

>>6812489
One how and I don't know why, doesn't even matter how hard I try.

Draw some ribs and tits if you have no better ideas for Christssake.

Here's some gestures I did. I tried to push the perspective/pose compared to the ref. I wish I had pushed the overlaps and curve of the torso a lot more for the one on the far right.

>>6812489
Schizo-kun.. I..

>>6812511
Impressive, very nice. How long for each? I tend to only do timed gestures for whatever retarded reason.

>>6812516
3m. I find that 3 min is comfortable to get a statement down. I prefer to do 8 minutes personally but the shorter timeframe forced me to organize my process.

Drew a skull on my shelf

>>6812511
>Impressive, very nice
Now let's see Paul Allen's gestures.

My main gripe is that your lines are very light and seem like you are afraid to define the form. You have one gesture with the darkest lines as if that's the one that's done best. Your gestures are fine, stop being so light and define even if you fuck up. If you want to go a step beyond, shade a bit, no matter the quality.

>>6812523
When you attempt to shade, thick lines for the outline will contrast with the hatching if there is a huge contrast between the line thickness. The thick lines work well, but the darkest parts need to have a fancy form of pure black to thick crosshatching for the transition.

I like painting but whenever I try to paint big pieces or use color I get stuck so I tried a thumbnail size again

>>6812540
Flip the face and skull values. The skull isn't as important as the chick, so you want her to be more prominent. Tbh fuck the fear, paint as well as you can and whatever happens, happens.

>>6812551
Good idea thanks. I think I tend to overthink or put too much into a sketch but it feels like the less I try to control it comes out much easier and I enjoy it more

ok i'll go to sleep after this i promise
>>6812499
>Draw some ribs and tits if you have no better ideas
Sure. How.
>>6812515
They're gettin better huh? I figured out how to place vanishing points in CSP. Works wonders being able to actually see the fucking point instead of guessing like i was.

>>6812569
>it feels like the less I try to control it comes out much easier and I enjoy it more
Same desu. As much as I'd like to paint the most beautiful art possible, I have to trust thst my training will guide me towards a "good enough" painting.

doodling random shit

>>6812598
noice

October can't get here soon enough

extremely physically painful

>>6812618
he cute

another one

>>6812658
Symbol drawing to the max

Hello beg, finally a first perspective book which actually shows how to do 5P perspective. It is kinda cool, but hard to keep it all consistent: too many vanishing points, too many rules to keep in mind at all times. As of now i see 5P as maximum drawing showoff you can pull. And it also explains why it is so rare in art circles.

>>6812681
i love technology. tank, mech, car, plane... it is automatic thumbs up from me!
>>6812658
you need keys to drawing, you arent drawing what you see, you are drawing flawed idea of you THINK the face looks like
>>6812618
cute bat
>>6812249
is there some secret place / list of good old literature about art and such? it isnt shilled because the lack of copyright means the publishers cannot make big cash from it anymore so it is kinda hard to come across it by accident

more portrait practice, i kinda wanna make the back of the head a robot

Please help.

Why yes, of course I did D.R.A.W. today

D. - Draw lines and circles for 5 minutes
R. - Spend all day refreshing /ic/
A. - Skim read art book
W. - Nap while listening to art video

Why yes, of course I did D.R.A.W. today

D. - Draw lines and circles for 5 minutes
R. - Refresh /ic/ threads all day long
A. - Art book skim reading
W. - Watch art videos and fall asleep

>Still struggle with jawbones after 2 years
I fucking CAN'T DO IT
It looks like some animu shit, then, I draw a face with pointy chin but it somehow looks manly, and then a man looks like a girl.

How do it fucking do it?
The whole jawline / jaw / chin stuff is way too hard, I don't understand.
Yes, I looked at tons of real faces and people

>>6812721
>no work posted
assumed to be a crab until proven otherwise

>>6812723
AAAAAAAH I FORGOT
I'm tired

Holy fucking shit nothing matters anymore nothing will be real in a few years the internet will be 99% AI it's so fucking over it's OVER do you hear me? OWARI DA!!!! ITS SO FUCKING OOOOOVVEEEER ITS OVEEEEEER AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE

I'M SLIPPING INTO MANIA I CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS SHIT ANYMORE FUCK FUCK FUCK I'M GONNA KILL MYSELFFFFFFF

THERE IS NO GOD NOTHING MATTERS HUMANITY WILL BE FORGOTTEN AND FARTED AND SHITTED ON BY ROBOTS FUCK GOAAAAAAAAAAAASDQWEQWEASDSGFASGDSFHDFGHASFDCFHEARTHA%TSAFD

Cross posting from another thread, plz give feedback
>>6812726
Try drawing thinner/slimmer necks, that’s usually associated with femininity.
>>6812712
Use a reference. Her upper legs are cartoonishly long

>>6812721
have you tried drawing a ton of skulls, figuring out how things work help me draw them a bit

>>6812707
thanks, these are quite fun

>>6812598
nice lazy eye

25min, figuring out how to do core shadows better. Slowly slowly.

>>6812776
now add the cast shadows

>>6812764
these are nice, I like what you include in the top figures theyre fun to look at

>>6812658
I agree with the other anon, I think keys to drawing would benefit you. I've gone through most of it and it helped me with drawing what I see more and having more confidence to draw anything from a reference without having to build upon a construction. elsewhere, notice how the two sides of the eyes in your drawing have virtually the same vertical value (if we're thinking about it like a coordinate plane), while the in the reference there's a clear difference: both outer sides are higher than the inner sides

>>6812781
Planning on doing a bigger thing with this character later. Will do then.

>>6812801
you lazy fuck, also if the light is coming from his right then youre not gonna have speculars inside his eye socket, and the one on his lip will be on the other side

Using graphite on smooth paper, can you blend much smoother than this? I like how the far left slice of the sphere looks, but it was hard to get that blend and idk if I'm doing things right. I know the form of the shadow is wrong, just thinking about the blending

>>6812540
Cute

>>6812742
Stop that. Do you want the AI that replaces you to end up simulating a schizo?

>>6812806
sure use a qtip

>>6812813
I used the little point of a blending stump and made little circles. Won't a q tip make it too blurry?

>>6812494
Thanks fren, will do

>>6812169
Stop drinking milk maybe?I used to shit all the time til I realized I was developing lactose intolerance

>>6812726
Main thing I can recommend is to practice spotting the orientation of different faces and trying to break that down into simple forms. Also focus on your guidelines, they are there for a reason

i drew my left hand today and very quickly a small bird as well

Where do I start drawing bodies? I'm getting pretty decent at heads and faces but the second I try to attach them to a body everything goes completely off the rails.

I've tried doing some basic gesture drawings but they are pretty terrible. Do I keep plugging along with that or are there some basic prerequisite skills like drawing 3d shapes in perspective I should develop first?

>>6812784
thank you :)

Some quick stuff, if I like it enough i might redraw it better

>>6812846
Look at irl references and base your images of them. IRL photos can teach you both. Eventually you get good enough to not rely on them as much.

Made this in about 15 minutes. Thoughts?

I did it, I finished the hentai-game. To the anon who made these sketches I hope you don't mind that I used them for this little project.
You can check it here, warning: for coomer eyes only >>>/f/3498486

>Use ballpoint pen on paper
>can sketch just fine, very line weight and overlap lines
>Use my tablet
>Pencils are either too weak or too sharp like the g-pen

I know there is no magic brush but is there some good beginner brush that you can sketch with?

I drew this a few days ago on paper. I wanted to convey the weight and size of Pete and the distances of his limbs with my brush pen hence the different line weights. Please critique as much as possible! I want to be a comic artists and a cartoonist!

>>6812991
Hard round or opacity brush

What if instead of making a trillion shitty drawings, I just draw one shitty drawing and keep improving it until it becomes perfect?

>>6812803
Noted, ty. Will get to after work. I did put the spec on the other wide of the lip but adjusted it for a dumb reason.

>>6813003
It will still turn out bad

>>6812910
That was actually decent. I was NOT expecting to be quizzed, that was a surprise. The guy's dialog was a bit cringey. The art kinda fell apart during the sex poses where you didn't have reference to work from. I think you need to work on drawing asses and pussies. I liked the music. Good job on putting so much effort into this, I'm impressed.
>>6813003
That's a terrible idea. Each shitty drawing gets you 1 xp. As you gain xp, your drawings become less shitty, and get better and better. So polishing one shitty drawing to infinity will only net you 1 xp and a polished turd.

>>6812900
tried to redraw it, face came out too fucked

day 40 (lineart namek)

The shoe is way more difficult than I anticipated, I couldn't finish it, even the study sketch took a long time, perhaps i will try to finish it tomorrow
I still can't draw faces, and for that reason I will be killing myself shortly good bye everyone

>>6812712
idk but i like it

1/4 portrait practice. Trying to approach more like a painter than a drawer

>>6813100
2/4. I think this is came out the best in what I'm going for.

>>6813102
3/4

>>6813103
4/4

How often do I need to post on Twitter for my account to grow enough to open a Patreon?Currently I publish the process of an illustration(LineArt,shade,color) 1 step per day.Is that the way? Or am I doing something wrong because it barely reached 50 views and 2/3 likes.
PS: the drawings are mid/high beg (they have quality)

>>6813003
Skill appropriate proggression. Different angles, attempts and models feel fresh to the mind unlike redoing one thing over and over.

>>6813108
Post a drawing(one that you won't post on Twitter if you are worried about someone from here finding your Twitter). Tbh unless you draw fetish shit I don't think it's possible to grow or make money as a /beg/ maybe I'm wrong though.

I think I get it fellow beglets
The face is a mountain of anatomy, dozens of little muscles, lumps on the skull, sinew, I was so arrogant and naive to think you can just draw a perfect face without knowing these by heart
It's like thinking you can draw a believable body without knowing how the muscles pull through the joints and to each and every bone, it's not possible

Had the idea, did the idea. 1H. Now I rest before evening work.

Some character fills for the OC thread. Any major fuckups I need to fix before I attempt to colour?

>>6813065
Thank you! Yeah those scenes were afterthoughts. My original idea was just to do a simple "slide through" with the nicer pin ups, but then it evolved into a proper "game" with the quiz and a final "reward" sex scene. I did it on the fly at a lower resolution/size. There is a major limitation in the file size, it can't go above 6 or 7MB, above that it never uploads. So I did those pics as simple as possible, I wasn't even sure if the file could be uploaded.
About the dialog, I can't do anything better than that. I guess it matches the crappy dialog in classic coom flash games from the past xD.
The style I am aiming at is the classic Roninsong's. I want to do new little flash projects related to some classics like Eddie Bear, or the candy shop girls. So my girls will usually look like that, unless I make a conscious effort to do a particular refined style. I can do that but it takes more time, like pic related, wich I just did to reply your post, lol
Are you the OP artist? Is she an OC of yours?

>>6813208
Oh, I see. I think that if you want to seriously make coom games, you should study how to make appealing women and study anatomy. But, for a spur of the moment game, it came out pretty decent.
>Are you the OP artist?
No, just a random anon lol. I'd be interested to know what he thinks, though.
>>6813191
The hands on the first figure overlap oddly with the rolling pin. The rolling pin's left (our right) side needs attention.
The middle figure's right (our left) arm and hand size and proportion are fucked. His other hand, too. His left (our right) shoulder doesn't seem to connect to his torso very well. His head and face and neck seem disconnected and their perspective is off. The perspective on the chair is weird as well. I'd honestly consider redrawing this guy.
The left side of the dress on the figure on the right makes it look like she has no lower body; it's blowing into where her legs should be. The round thing on her belt isn't centered/doesn't match the perspective of her upper body. If the round thing is meant to be offset, then it's fine. The edges/outline of her skirt seem to flatten the form out instead of wrapping around her body. Her hair is also weirdly flat, especially compared to the first figure. Also, it looks like the hand on her chin flatly overlaps the cuff of her sweater rather than the sweater wrapping around her wrist.
You've got a generally good sense of form, (For example, the middle figure's torso, waist, hips feel solid as fuck and the right figure's tits and sweater and necklace mostly great.) and I think your line art is great. The characters also have some kind of story to them and a world in which they live, which makes this a lot more interesting than the usual stuff you see posted here.

>>6812752
thanks

>study knees and surrounding muscles/bones
>attempt to draw
>always look weird or just wrong
HUH????

>>6812993
Did he choke out minnie mouse before he ate her?

>>6813285
Yeah. He choked her out before eating her unconscious pussy.

>>6813293
hott.

I got a medium screenless tablet, laptop and a shitty low coffee table with shelf under it and I'm sitting on sofa.
Is there a way to make this set up comfortable or should I bail and move the stuff to dining room to use the actual table and chair? I cannot really move the hand very freely or comfortably and it might be fucking my motivation to draw because everything ends up inaccurate as hell.
Also, should I keep the hand above the tablet or it's fine to rest on it? I got a glove of sorts so the hand doesn't stick to the tablet much, but it might still impede the movement.

>>6813313
>or it's fine to rest on it?
thats literally what the glove is for

>>6813316
Yeah, I fell there is still a bit of "lag" that impedes the precision because there still a bit of drag if I do tiny movements due to pressure my hand applies to the tablet.
But yeah, retarded question. I'm more interests what to do with the set-up situation.

>>6812806
As someone who had learnt shading recently, I would really recommend you to do the Tonal Bar exercise in Bert Dodson: Keys to Drawing on page 60 (you can easily find it online). In this exercise you will spend 30 minutes practicing shading, it will be hard but that exercise made me understand shading.

You do not need blending for what you want to do, what you need is to work in layers very carefully, and hold the pencil way up and use light pressure. It takes time to shade. Light and shadow represents the turning of planes. As a sphere has very smooth turns, the shading should be smooth, however your shading shows visible lines, especially darkest area. The drawing also doesn't take into consideration the reflected light of the surface.

Also related to shading, another book you will find interesting is the Bargue Drawing Course, it's not a drawing course book in the traditional sense, it just contains drawings, however IMO those drawings will tell you a lot about shading, you will see why.

Crit+redline me.

>>6812820
Thanks

Broo look at this sick snake statue I made, I should totally like become a sculpture and make stuff like the Michelangelo in Florence

more meds map practice
having trouble applying a smooth rendering on round forms

photo study with a big messy brush

how do you come up with a pen name

>>6813444
have someone else come up with it
or just don't be a weirdo who names his pens

>>6813382
That's a tape worm

>>6813392
big soft round brush for smooth transitions

>>6813529
How about this? I use airsoft brush with low opacity, then blend with the blender tool (im using krita) with low opacity
Im kinda new to digital. Maybe I just need to practice more

draw (a mech in) a box

>can sit for hours doing dozens of exercises
>can't bring myself to do at least one work

>>6813473
Maybe you should've used a plaque.

Been working on this caricature of sorts for my gf's mom's 50th birthday as a thank you for all the freerange eggs.
Am I GM?

>>6813651
Any latent hostility toward the gf's mom?

>>6813651
thanks, I'll use this as a reaction image from now on

>>6812489
Is anon trolling or dose he not understand why learning fundamentals is important?

>>6813654
I'm deeply honored kek

>>6812162
What drawing program do you guys use?

>>6812910
>>6813208
hi bro, op here
I'm glad those doodles were useful for you
and congratz on your project, it's pretty well done, I played a little to see how it goes
the character actually was supposed to be Karin from BA
hope to see more of it

>>6813368
boobs seem to be very high on the torso
latissimus dorsi and teres major insert below the coracobrachialis forming the armpit, this is evident when the arm is raised

>>6813651
you're putting way too much detail into minor things like hair or feathers when focal points look off on clear areas like her face or her arms and hands

>>6813580
How do you not get lost in the detail?

>>6812900
Check your proportions. The head is too small. Chest might be to small too, but I can’t tell. Legs and feet are in different perspective from upper body.

>>6813651
anon redo the face please i dont want to get second hand embarrassment PLEASE redraw the face very carefully this time
everything else is excusable
but not the face you have to get the face right

>>6813916
I try to simplify every major shape as either a box, cylinder or sphere (to understand their proportion/perspective)
then carve out the complex shapes out of them
and finally add some of the surface details

>>6813580
What book are you studying from?

Hello beg. Today I drew for the first time in many days. The dog came out pretty alright. I am still busy with other stuff so may not post often. I now mostly read posts that ptw skipping the text-only.
To the >Maйкoп anon: their lemonade is actually quite good.

>>6813278
Did you try drawing 100 knees and comparing the results?
>>6813096
Please don't go, complete the faces arc instead. Also the shoe is very energetic and powerful.
>>6813091
I don't know shit about fighting games but it is a cute + cool musclegirl.
>>6812872
Neat. What's ripping it apart?
>>6812764
I like the synthesizer.
>>6812716
Why yes, I did DRAW today. It's not an abbreviation, I actually did draw.
>>6812618
Atmospheric.
>>6812540
qt

>>6813688
Thanks for the reply man! Now I see that I'd totally mistyped the original character lol. I'll see if I do something else with this idea. I'll be around.

I got "feedback" about my art today, but instead of advice that's made me feel encouraged and energized, it's actually pissing me off and making me unironically seethe. I DO NOT LIKE feeling like this, but I can't shake the feeling!

>>6814042
get over yourself

>>6814057
fuck you.

>>6814016
'Deadwood Sketch and Concept Design' by Yoh Yoshinari

>>6814042
Are you getting advice from artfags or nodraws

Took a month off of drawing and I’ve started chicken scratching again which is a bit frustrating, other than that how is this looking? I feel like the biggest issue is the legs right now

>>6814078

>>6812210
Is that a slug-woman ?

>>6814069
wah wah wahhh
stupid faggot ngmi

Right one I sketched then flipped, obviously looks worse.
Left one I decided to do boxes/construction approach and I’m stuck plus it looks bad.
When I try drawing heads from that pov I always struggle with how to connect the cranium and neck

>>6814081
I don't know, and frankly, I don't care.

Sup beg, the book is almost over.

>>6814085
there is nothing wrong with chicken scratching IF it isnt limiting what you want to draw aka clean confident lines. under every painting is chicken scratched sketch / gesture. i like your angel thot
>>6814042
you can always channel your anger into canvas. draw crabs getting smashed by a hammer
>>6814028
i remember when i was copying this doggo from ktd: i probably had badly scanned copy so i could barely tell what am i looking at and basically your doggo is miles better than mine back then!
>>6814016
i think her mouth placement is wrong. the head is practically profile view but the mouth is 3/4. or her nose + cheeck bones are wrong
>>6813687
krita is my main drawing app for the moment. then i have rebelle for paitning / water colors and atm i am testing firealpaca. but average anon on /ic has clip paint studio pro or pirated photoshop
>>6813651
looking cool
>>6813382
you have symbol sculpted that snakes head and you are missing scale textures. please read keys to sculpting. Also is that a real ladybug? Or some model?
>>6813313
you have to experiment and see in which position your spine and wrist isnt exploding. try putting tablet into your lap and maybe put pillow bellow it to raise height
>>6813208
eeeeeeey coom
>>6813179
that ass looks weird with how asymmetrical the panties are on it
>>6813172
or you skip all of that and simply use reference
>>6813102
very nice paintings
>>6813003
that will produce polished turd
>>6812991
in krita one of the few default brushes which dont suck ass completely is called charcoal pencil medium
>>6812846
there are 999 figure drawing books: loomis, vilppu, hogart, bridgman, tomfox, eviston, morpho...
>>6812827
good

>>6814174
top right tire is very nice

Anons, do you like to draw on public transport? I made this drawing from imagination, any kind of line control and movement was absolutely out of question, but I am satisfied with the piece and it cured the boredom.

Anyone else just has three hundred brushes but only ever uses like three or four of them for everything?

How do I improve hands besides drawing lots of them?

>>6814085
Cleaned the sketch up, my styles for really comic book like not sure how I feel about it yet

>>6814174
>you can always channel your anger into canvas. draw crabs getting smashed by a hammer
That's what makes me really pissed. I don't think these guys are crabs.

>>6814233
post your work so i can shit on it too you low life shizo

>>6814235
Suck a nigger dick asshole

>>6814194
I'm not a digital artist, only used it for short time, but yes I absolutely didnt care about custom brushes, they did interest me but I thought: why not use only 1 brush so you dont complicate the process? there are also digital artists I heard who just use hard round for painting and soft round for blending
>>6814215
qt
>>6814225
I cant give u critique but I dig it!
>>6814028
>>6814174
In case you don't know, when reading Keys to Drawing, make sure to download the CBZ version (around 100 MB), the quality is better, still blurry tho
>>6814016
I really dig this!
>>6813651
SOUL
>>6813179
Anon, I like your drawings, but you always choose the dirtiest references
>>6813100
>>6813102
>>6813103
>>6813106
Gigabased
>>6813091
based
>>6813096
qt
>>6812993
Im not really a comic guy, but a bit of feedback
- Head outline feels waay too thick for me. Look at the torso's sides, they are thin, dont correspond to how the face side is thick. Also head feels wy thicker compared to other body part
- other is linework. it feels chicken scratchy to me, I see that you may have done a thin outline and then went over it with thick, but not feeling it. Would be way better smooth. In case you went for the dirty style, I dont feel it.
>>6812827
It's okay, but you could have moved on from the exercise IMO, not that it was a bad chocie just saying

How does one go about simplifying messier, curlier hair?

>like watching TV
>can't draw while watching TV
it's over, I tried getting a tablet but I think procreate is a piece of shit software compared to the greatness of krita

>>6814174
>>6814240

1H

>>6814225
Hey anon take this >>>/f/3498531 it's for you

pepper and bird
i tried drawing with pencil instead of pen today and the pepper exercise said to try shading but man am i bad at it
i'll try again tomorrow or the day after

>>6814308
This is so cool! Thank you anon!

>>6814264
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqIxZIQZVTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4yOKITICrc&t=372s

Both videos go over it pretty well. What you need to do is simplify the shapes and values accordingly and build details on top of it after you've finished the initial statement/block-in. While he may be painting eggs or a portrait here, the process is the same with hair. You separate the light and shadow, add middle value and so on. This is going to be the foundation for most paintings. Pic related is how you should be thinking about the shapes and volumes in the initial stages of a painting. In the case of messy hair, you keep your shapes clean and add details where the values shift into the next value group (i.e. specular highlight into the average light value) to imply the texture.
Kienan Lafferty does this with leather and hair in these videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0YAisJXYuM&t=1869s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5_Uv_YyAWY&t=2107s
>Note that Kienan is a bit more liberal with his block-in since he's more familiar with the process

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdhnR0iMFd4&pp=ygUNbmF0aGFuIGZvd2tlcw%3D%3D
Here's Nathan Fowkes breaking down a more complicated subject.

day 41
Wow the secret to lineart is... you have to take your time... wow, i don't feel like I can learn anything by finishing this shoe

>>6814275
ngl the concept is titillating, you just need to make the liquid look nicer and the squashed breast more alluring, i mean it's not really getting squashed, just "bent"
>>6814028
im not going anywhere just had to kill myself real quick and im back on it
is that your doggo?
>>6814174
and crutch on reference?
Imagine you're holding some kind of fan meetup, and you get asked to draw something really quick and you start looking for reference on your phone, pathetic, you should be able to at least draw the heart of the art organically

>>6814275
coonanon this is honestly some of your best work. Looking forward to seeing it finished

>>6814316
Anon, what are you doing? Like what are you trying to do, is it from Keys to drawing? If yes then if you did the exercise in the given time with effort then simply move on, perfectionism will just set you back

Also, why are you counting the days?

>>6814334
the peppers are from KtD, yes, and the bird is from 'the art and science of drawing.'
it's less perfectionism and more that i'm afraid it won't really stick in my mind if i do it once and move on. also drawing is pretty daunting and trying new things is scary, so doing it this way helps alleviate that a little bit. lastly i do honestly find it fun and interesting to experiment with these exercises, like drawing the hand in different positions here >>6812827
as for this particular pepper i was a little sleep deprived today and rushed through the drawing, so i do want to try it again just for that reason

either way, i appreciate the advice and i'll try to focus more and repeat less. no promises though -- my autism may yet get the best of me

>why are you counting the days?
i don't know, counting the days since i started just seemed like a good thing to do

>>6813680
I know they ARE important, but maybe I don't know why. I know construction does something, I know perspective does something, I know anatomy does something, and copy paste that on every other fundie that I can't remember the name of right now.
I also know that the dudebros here are going to tell me to read this book, that book, other book, despite not being able to learn SHIT from them in my attempts.

So hey, anon, if you've got something for me, now's the time to spit it out.

>>6814264
I put this together quickly from what i could find as decent examples from which you can draw inspiration how messy hair can be simplify.

>>6814328>
>and crutch on reference?
Imagine you're holding some kind of fan meetup, and you get asked to draw something really quick and you start looking for reference on your phone, pathetic, you should be able to at least draw the heart of the art organically
>>6813172
>The face is a mountain of anatomy, dozens of little muscles, lumps on the skull, sinew, etc.
>knowing these by heart

Knowing any of those things with your current skill level, believe it or not, won't help you make a better portrait. I'm speaking from firsthand experience when I say that anatomy does jack shit when you can't draw basic forms, let alone observe with any accuracy. As a beg/int, you will be crutching onto reference for dear life to accumulate information to pull from later. Also you can draw a very believable body without knowing any of the underlying anatomy, however you'll be heavily neglecting your ability to invent and know what it is that your looking at.

>>6814397
What construction does, and perspective by extension, is allow you to find a point in relation to another point along x, y and z coordinates in a pseudo 3d space. You won't be able to make much use of any fundamental if your eye is not developed to be accurate. Have you looked into how to train your accuracy? If so, what resources have you looked into?

>>6814400
>Have you looked into how to train your accuracy? If so, what resources have you looked into?
Working on the assumption that accuracy and observation are one and the same, the big one i've tried is Keys To Drawing. That's the one everyone and their mother loves to recommend, yet I can't get shit from there.
I've also tried the Right Side of the Brain book, but I think the words words words just turned my brain off for that one.
Idk what else, does drawabox count or is that purely perspective and linework? I did lesson 1 there.
Next i'll want to try 'The Art and Science of Drawing' cause that one has a video course thing I can do instead. But i've been procrastinating so I haven't even tried that so far.

>>6814419
I've never done any of those books, and I'm not that anon, but what's worked for me is simply doing what Loomis tells you to do in "Figure Drawing for All it's Worth". Basically, you find the midpoint of the reference image, then the quarter points, if needed. Then, you simply draw with plumb lines and by extending lines to find alignments.

It's just 3 tools:
>Midpoint(s)
>Plumb lines
>line extension

Master those, and you'll learn to see accurately.

>>6812162
Is something off about this image?
Aside from the obvious straight lines

>>6814419
I skimmed through Eviston's first couple of videos, I find that he is clear about what it is he wants the student to do when giving out an assignment. The basic skills section is mostly line control exercises. It takes him until week 5 to get to measuring and proportion which is what most people will be lacking. I don't normally recommend rearranging courses, but I think Brent moves way too fast into drawing simple forms. I suggest putting week 5 videos and assignments before week 3 and 4. So the order you do the course in would be week 1, 2, 5, then proceed through 3, 4 and the rest. This way you can practice practice your observation skills during week 3 and 4. I think you'll benefit from the video structure.
How far in the course are you anon?
>>6814422
What this anon mentions is probably mentioned in Eviston's course, so just keep moving through it. Ask questions to others if there's something that is said you don't understand

The side of the leg didn't really come off.

B/W/G

>>6814331
>>6814328
Thanks.

אחרי עמוס קינן

>>6814427
I can barely even tell what this is

>>6813241
Thanks for the crits anon. Stuff like the hands I knew were fucked but was hoping I could skate by so thanks for pointing them out and encouraging me not to be a complete lazy fuck about them.

> Her hair is also weirdly flat
Eh, it's how it is in the original design and I decided to keep it as is rather than change the style up too much.

Not going to lie the crit did come as a little punch to the gut but I needed it and the praise at the end gave me the encouragement I needed to push forward so thanks man.

>and I think your line art is great
Honestly it's one of the things I worry about most. I feel like a lot of my stuff has an ugly vibe to it that I pin on the line art. Can't really put my finger on it but it just always looks rough.

>>6813100
>Trying to approach more like a painter than a drawer
How does this affect how you begin a project?

>>6814444
so.... explain it like it's a children's book.

>>6814468
Milk does a body good.

>>6814448
>Not going to lie the crit did come as a little punch to the gut
I didn't mean it to be. I'm sorry, anon. :(
>Honestly it's one of the things I worry about most.
Really? That's weird, I think your lineart is very good, some of the best I've seen in these threads. Your lines are great. Consistently good, and it's good across all three figures. I really think if you just pay a little more attention to proportion and consistently feeling the form — just like all of us — you'll be all set. You clearly CAN feel the form pretty damn well, like I said, so applying that ability more consistently in your drawings really shouldn't be too hard. With a little attention, you'll probably get there pretty quickly.
>the praise at the end gave me the encouragement I needed to push forward so thanks man.
:) You're definitely gonna make it with that attitude.

>>6814437
>How far in the course are you anon?
Like I said, i've been procrastinating so I haven't even started. But I'll try rearranging and see, you've seen more of the course than I have and you definitely have more experience than me, so i'll trust your judgement there.

>>6814522
Post his tutorials for arms if you get a chance.

>>6814215
by sucking a lot of cock

Hi guys!
read the "Big sticky"
I'm more interested in drawing/painting stuff like pic related, not sure if its called scenes or something different.
Where should I start?
I'm more interested in background,architecture, and lightning should I skip straight into perspective?
Downloaded the book perspective made easy but the "problems" are to general for me, I will like something more structured, like "draw 10 boxes from below, one from the side, etc..."
Any rec resources like that?

1960s cheese

>>6814530
You can get that course from the /ic/ Torrent. Also that anon doing his general drawing course, not the one with the figures.

Finished this.

>>6814534
if only anyone on /ic/ knew how to draw like that...

Best I can tell you is to study the fundamentals as well as you can, and then also copy the art you love, including that piece. Do an exact duplication, studying exactly how the artist did everything. Then draw it again from memory

>>6814534
learn observation drawing first, then painting
for perspective just basic knowledge is enough, you don't need crazy vanishing points manipulation to paint landscape and architecture
after that learn values, composition, color theory

>>6814174
>i remember when i was copying this doggo from ktd: i probably had badly scanned copy so i could barely tell what am i looking at
I have a decent copy but it's got its imperfections as well: there's light lines missing sometimes and in later chapters the spreads are fucked up. idk how I'm going to be doing master studies, they're the ones suffering the most at a glance.
>>6814240
>In case you don't know, when reading Keys to Drawing, make sure to download the CBZ version (around 100 MB), the quality is better, still blurry tho
I have a 144 or so MB version in pdf, is this it? I couldn't find anything else.
>>6814328
>is that your doggo?
No, it's a Keys to Drawing copy. Perhaps I could draw the cats here, I'm back out of the city and my relatives brought them here for summer this year.

>>6813208
i dub this artstyle AIcore

>>6814534
Maybe "How To Draw" by Scott Robertson with Thomas Bertling is what you're looking for, which jumps straight into perspective. If you feel filtered by it, come back to it later. Try the first few lessons of Draw a Box too.

asking again, i want to animate, what free easy to use programs can i use?

Can someone tell me if I got this right.
So after I get the basic outline done I use lines within this outline to demonstrate form and volume to make good figure drawings? Like the typical example of a circle with a curved line in it becoming a sphere.

>>6814174
>>6814240

Ideation. 45min total.

>>6814703
Lost my image.

>>6814398
anon, you're ultrabased for doing that
>>6814704
cool
>>6814445
*skull emoji*
>>6814443
cool

Guys my gesture is fucking dogshit
I don't know what to do anymore

Am I really that much of a lost cause?
God fucking dammit
I worked so hard to get fucked like this

>>6814723
Gesture is a /beg/ trap don’t bother

>>6813392
>>6813559
added parts with different values + lost edge and contact shadow practice
done with this modal, only the actual rendering assignment left

>>6814735
everything is a beg trap for you "people"

>>6814741
this whole board is a /beg/ trap

>>6813651

The human is really bad. Don’t draw teeth like that, just imply them instead. Lose the hard lines in the face entirely.

this is very useful and made me draw more, perfect for adhd retards that lose track of time (It's called limit on chrome store)

>>6814735
>>6814747
I also think gesture is a /beg/ trap, I may be a /beg/, but here is my opinion. Humans are the hardest thing to draw in comparison to other things (drawing a still life of box, ball and pyraid is hard already for beg), you are already starting with something that is easy to fuck up, but you also have to keep in mind anatomy (general proportions), expressing the form, and something vague such as "le flow" (it is clear many fail to understand what makes good gesture)

This is why I neglect gesture until I can do good stil llife, It feels like efficient to do it now, vague and difficult.

>>6814766
based. I would add making an environment that benefits you. My environment is very clean and simple, and electronic devices are put away, in the cupboard for example to make it harder to reach.

>>6814446
Now?

>>6814823
Wayyyyy better, good job anon. Now you just gotta start drawing on white paper not lined paper.

Finished lining this today, I'll do rendering tomorrow. I've been exhausted lately because it's like a million degrees where I live and I have no AC, but I'm pushing through it.

>>6814735
>>6814769
Gesture is not a /beg/ trap you guys need to stop smoking crack. Literally any art school or teacher worth their salt will have you practice gesture as a fundamental skill. If you never want to draw humans or animals, or even things in motion, sure you don't need it. But otherwise stop complaining and draw more gestures.

>>6812172
kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW45pEWsfj4

>>6814626
It depends, do you want to do "real" animation? Nowadays every drawing software have animation tools for that
https://youtu.be/oXMCmiT_wxA?si=UZGE3Lenau3iAIXl
https://youtu.be/-B3LDBlkFWU?si=Az50fUeAJtTLjrmB

On that note if you find getting started into that too hard , you could try pixel animation as a way in.

Then you have the other options like just "tweening" images, pan, zoom, slides and fades, then you could try the classic flash animation process, is super easy. You can get the old flash software free in the internet. But flash format is no longer accepted by browsers (unless the site allows the ruffle app to run the animations), is a good learning tool though.

>>6814589
What about "Vect-core" After the lineart, and doing the flat colors, once the art is done, I save it in png with transparency. then I give it a pass on illustrator's vectorize tool, to turn the raster into vectors so I can use it on flash. I thought about it like an AI kinda thing, is it sort of a similar process, but it has been in use for more than a decade now but all of those flash creators, lol

The irony, is that, the AI software that we all talk about today actually can't do this, turn an image into an usable ready vector animation asset. It can't. It's not designed to do that, at all.
You have to actually do the art, turn it into vectors with the appropriate software like illustrator, and then do the animation.
I did this one yesterday >>>/f/3498531

I don't want to draw boxes anymore...

>>6814870
Fucking cool
>>6814913
You drew the wheels as flat circles rather than full, volumetric tires. Still very cool though

Well /beg/?

My goal was to draw two perfect cubes at different orientations that are the same distance away from the viewer. I don't understand where to put vanishing points how to measure angles or the width and height of objects in perspective. I attempted to use a top-down "floorplan" of the cubes and this is what I ended up with. How should this actually have been accomplished?

I'm reading fun with a pencil but I don't know how to apply any of the principals that are being described. I'm trying to save anime girls from being trapped floating in voids. Please help me save them.

>>6814607
>>6814578
>>6814582
thanks!

>>6814913
Interesting.

>>6814823
Tomorrow I'll try to do some figures of this guy again

uhhhh im makin some protaganists

>>6812162

one of my own design after yesterday's studies

I don't know man

>>6815059
now turn it into a finished piece of lineart

>>6815091
I think you might want to start with something simpler

Man I miss a few of the begs who use to be on here.

>>6815108
Maybe they got better.

>>6815108
like who

>>6815108
don't worry anon, i'll never leave, cause i'll never be able to draw

>>6815108
They were promoted to /int

>>6814845
NTA, should accuracy and proportion be practiced first though? I see often people will say to do gesture as one of the first things, but even I was told to leave it until I can draw accurate proportions.

>>6814985
I kneel

>>6812162
>be me
>23
>told "just draw"
>been drawing regularly for almost 3 years
>still get called a pre-/beg/ retard
I'm never gonna make it. You either have to have something in your brain from birth that makes you good, or learn it at a young age. Being an artist is like being a Jedi. I should quit but I enjoy it too much but then everyone gets angry at me when I share because im just that bad. It's really an existential crisis because this is basically the only hobby I have. This is what I put all my eggs in, yet Im still deviantart tier.
I should just kms. Thanks for the advice

>>6815021 continued:
I am now attempting to do the same thing but using a grid to help with the orientation of the cubes.

While construcng the grid I ran into a problem. I understand that I must use a measuring point on the horizon to establish the lines of the grid that are parallel with the horizon, but I don't know where on the horizon the measuring point is meant to be placed.

>all measuring points of perpendicular planes will fall in a perpendicular line through vanishing points of those planes
>all measuring points of planes parallel to ground plane will be located on horizon
>rectangle of first space is optional - to repeat simply take diagonal of the first space to the horizon or to the perpendicular thru vanishing point and back
>the depth of the first square is optional - establish measuring line by drawing diagonal thru square 8 where it cuts other division lines, marks off the depths of other squares

There is no text that describes where measuring points and (vanishing points) should actually be placed on the horizon line. What is the method for determining these points? What is meant by "optional" in this context?

>>6815157
post your work?

>>6815094
No need to go further, these are simple quick-sketch style timed figure drawings. it's only practice and playing with simple yet characteristic shapes.

>>6815157
Or you know you could just sit down and actually study something

>>6812162
>No anime girls
西村 博之 would like to talk to you.

>>6815183
>check post
>save image
>use as reference
thanks anon.

Define "int"
Do you people really just define "good" art as the most realistic?

>>6812162
Nigger that crayon picture is mine

Here is more of my stuff

>>6815202
This i consider my best work

>>6815195
don't worry about retarded labels and draw

>>6815204

Another fave

>>6815108
I'm still here

drawing the dude version of the gril

>>6815170
I interpreted optional as "just eyeball it". This is still probably wrong, and even if it's not, the process was definitely painful.

Angel lady is done I might go back and add some more colour but I’m pretty happy with how this is looking right now

>"beginner" thread
>thread filled with people who are perfectly adequate, could open a blog and no one would question it.
And before you say intermediate, this word has no fucking meaning and is just an excuse for artists to post whatever they want and flex
Yes, every artist has new things to learn or get better at, but let's keep this thread for ACTUAL beginners

>>6815318
There is nobody above beg here

>>6815318
No.

>>6815170
>>6815021
what are you trying to do is called mechanical perspective. pic related is how you do it. Yours isnt working out because you arent foreshortening depth into respective vanishing points. More details in book
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40222341-the-complete-guide-to-perspective-drawing

now i should also mention that you dont need exact measurement for 99% of the drawings, you just need very basic / casual understanding of perspective as it is described in books like perspective made easy or even the one from them OP: framed: perspective. trying to use mechanical perspective or measuring points is over kill for your average doodle / study / art.

drawing is fun

>>6815292
Cool rendering and colors. I don't know about the overall design though. It looks awesome as a thumbnail.

>>6815320
>>6815323
>>6815292
>>6814870
>>6814444
>>6814328
>>6814215
>>6814194
>>6812872
None of this is beginner

>>6815318
>>6815343
"beginner" simply anyone who isn't on a profesional level yet

>>6815398
That's ridiculous
What if my goal isn't even to be a professional just draw r34 of the obscure characters I've always wanted?

>>6815404
I'm talking "professional level" of art, not being an actual professional. In my experience, many hobbyist artists are actually much better than professionals, because professionals end up stagnating and not pushing themselves anymore, simply doing their job and clocking out. It's even worse when you end up as a storyboard artist on a kid show like Barney the Dinosaur. Those guys actually draw terribly for decades.

Anyways...

hey guys, how do i recreate this style? ukiyo-e
I use a tablet samsung s6 lilte and the app sketchbook. I wanna replicate the style, colors and textures. Show me the ways

>>6815262
Your coloring is always very nice but I've noticed at certain angles you draw heads a bit deformed. In the colored one here for example he looks a bit odd/flat. Try drawing the head more volumetrically to avoid this at different angles.

>>6815413
what brushes should I use? and how do i use blend layers with noise

>>6815318
Why do you feel threatened by INTs posting here? We can all learn from each other. INTs are usually the ones lurking and giving advice to BEGs, so it makes sense they'd also post their work here.

>>6815419
I do draw volumetrically when constructing, but I'm not seeing what you mean for the colored one. You might have to be more specific....

>>6815431
His jaw looks lopsided in the far right image, and even though he seems to be leaning backwards the face looks flat. This leads to a sort of deformed appearance. The shadow on his cheek isn't helping much either.

>>6815435
hm, perhaps this works better then. I did the pose myself and tried to be more deliberate with the frontal+slighly leaned back angle. It's tricky because he's supposed to have a long and thin jaw

>>6815108
Probably got no critique and just bounced. It happens all the time.

Folks find out the dumb way they're not /beg.

>>6815458
It still looks a bit odd unfortunately. I'm also noticing his ear doesn't line up with his eyes. Try getting a 3D model and tilting the head backwards a bit for a better reference. Looking up at a face tends to be one of the trickier angles to get right.

>>6815318
INT is where the vast majority of people stay forever. You're just too easily impressed.

>>6815469
It looks fine to me, I even took a photo of me from this exact angle and tried replicating the same ear placement in relation to the eyes. Its only a subtle angle change for the ears, they are lower because he is tilting back slightly

>>6815424
thank you guys

>>6815506
you're welcome

I had zero motivation to draw today but still did it.

It did take too long though because I was shading all over the place. If I just applied the midtone first it couldve been waaay faster.

>>6815488
Here, here's a reference for you. Just adapt this to an anime style.

Fellas how can I improve my gesture?
Overlapping and Arms that aren't straight really fuck with me

Any tips?

>>6815578
go watch steve huston figure drawing course

Another copy today.

>>6815573
would it be good practice to copy this?

>>6815578
This is the first thing that struck me, perhaps you need to simplify more?

>>6815584
Yes + Loomis + study facial anatomy

Some Simpsons doodles to try and get back in the habit of doing at least a little drawing everyday.

>>6813100
>>6813102
>>6813103
>>6813106
these are great, what resources did you use?

>>6815088
looks great anon, gmi

Hello beg, book is dead. Drawing city landscape is massive pain so i am dead too.

>>6815565
passed the exercise with flying colors!
>>6815343
>tfw you didn't make it to the selection of "not beginner"
feels very beg beg today
>>6815327
no fun allowed, only funDIEs
>>6815292
i kneel
>>6815262
cute shota
>>6815204
>>6815206
most of your stuff suffers from the same value. ofc you can cope and say that its your style, but i think its lack of fundie: using whole value range. turn your pic into gray scale and notice how it all merges into sameish gray and how most shapes will be lost. tldr you arent using darker tones of colors
>but i want very cheerful colorful scenes!
using occasional dark tone will only boost the perception of bright and colorful spots
>>6815157
PYW
>>6814870
i kneel
>>6814723
all art books which bothered with gesture said the same thing: you will understand it after doing thousands of them. yeah i know. i spend few months grinding gestures and despite all the flaws there were undeniable results. but if you dont like it then do something else. gesture isnt the ONLY way how to improve
>>6814645
ideally you dont want to separate contour and form, pros can imply form with just that outline
>>6814626
krita
>>6814534
this might shock you, but there is no difference between topics or styles as fundies are concerned. pick up keys to drawing and good luck!
>>6814445
that is weird mix of soul and weird alien art. i like it a lot
>>6814444
ouch

how are these character designs?

>>6815694
authentically western so ugly

>>6815685
>hard work
soul

>>6815694
2006 failed webcomic kino

another anime head copy

and done 6.75 hours

>>6815776
that's not how milk works

>>6815778
i don’t care!

sketch for tonight

So I will start with Draw a Box, but the sites references a course called Dynamic Sketching that seems to be for absolute beginners too, any opinions on that course?
Any way to get it for free?

>>6815817
they're both very similar and it's obvious that drawabox stole 80% of its shit from peter han's exercises. dynamic sketching does organic forms first, then textures, then geometric forms in perspective, whilst drawabox does the geometrics first - depends what you want to start with.

dynamic sketching is much more engaging though and the exercises are more free-form, found some of the drawabox exercises a little tedious in the midsection. can easily find the full course on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqR-aNpyEIVd91GCwsyOS3oRn6eoRhyio

>>6815836
thanks!

>>6815776
I think it would have been hotter like this
>>6815810
I like the face design, there's something interesting about it

>>6815413
throw away your tablet and use a pen or fineliner, meditate and drink some green tea before

I don't want to admit it but drawing on trad feels much better than on my screentablet. Did I waste money? I hate the slippery feeling. Should I just increase smoothing to get the same effect as on paper?

>>6815905
Buy a paper feel screen protector or get used to it

>>6815685
surely you re not gonna start another perspective book to avoid figure drawing, right?

>trying that Dynamic Sketching 1st lesson
>with the lines and shit, draw ten times half a line, than 3/4ths, you know the one
>after three or four strokes, even if wrong, I’m having a hard time keeping off the indent on the page and just get my pen following that instead
Am I doing that wrong? It feels like I should be improving my hand stability, not just drawing a divet on the page over and over.

Pic unrelated, it’s some beg shit I did for my AU fanfic in a thread on /trash/, and not the focus of what I’m asking

>>6815978
i like the design of the girl second-left
based on the photo you're probably using shitty lined paper too, so we both have this problem. keeping at it for a while even with the divots gave some improvement, but larger gains in consistency came with doing freeform waves and curves. basically just make unique curves (straight then sharp curve then straight, irregular wave, whatever) until you find something tough enough that you fall out of the divot, and repeat that a lot. or just something you feel like is helping you understand line quality, whatever.
reducing pressure might also help, as will drawing from the shoulder to better evenly apply said pressure, avoiding the divots in the first place.
based on image: are you using a ballpoint? ballpoints make bigger divots, might be worth swapping over to fineliner if you are
keep it up anon

>>6815992
>I like the design of the girl second-left
The one sitting or the one with the ‘stick’? The one in the front on the left’s just the MC of the proper show with different hair and clothe, the rest are part-OCs, part repurposed BG characters, and I’m still trying to figure out the right minimal style to match the cartoon’s vibe. I added some eyelashes to this one before losing the sketchpad up a mountain, because ADHD fucking sucks
>lined paper
>ballpoint
Yeah I’m on vacation in Japan and I just bought some pencils, lined notepads at a convenience store to draw in, and a ballpoint I got from one of the hotels. I’m not sure if there’s an art supply store in town, but your fineliner point just gave me a reason to go outside and search today so thank you. Unironically, I was gonna stay in the hotel room and jack it in Tenga eggs, I ain’t got shit planned in Wakayama. Let’s see if we can find better supplies.

can someone tell me which brush i should use to paint on csp?

>>6816015
yeah it was the front, the orc was a close second though, fits in the best so far. hope you enjoy your trip

>>6816070
forgot img

>>6816045
Hard Round/Rectangle, Pressure Opacity. Focus on shape and accuracy. Make your brushwork interesting with the a decisive brush. You'll learn a lot.

>>6816070
Thank you, I was able to secure a bunch of fineliners and different color liner pens to add variety to the future drawings. Couldn’t find any blank notepads though , and the store was closing in a few minutes after I got there so I took what I could and left.
>the orc was a close second
Thanks, I really like how her design turned out. I was trying to make a variant from one of the BGs in a season 2 episode, and combining what was just a little armor piece into a proper jaw was clunky on the first draft, pic related. Thread told me to try and simplify, so I went with >>6816015 and the bulldog look really played well off that ‘no filter fat chick friend who could kick everyone’s asses. The guys on the left and the right were giving me hard times designing too, I wanted the guy on the right to be sort of a mashup of Pazu from Castle in the Sky, and this one photo we have of the main show’s villain as a young kid (I’m not gonna dump the lore but short of it is, he’s a magic clone of the original villain and he doesn’t know it yet). I made a face shot of the guy, and he’s closer to the final design I want.
The other dude didn’t even have face for a long time in my mind, he’s supposed to be a fifth wheel that opens later plot lines in the show and just mogs most of the others. Then I saw some pictures of Oda Nobunaga and I just, I needed that nose in my AU. Now that I’m looking at it he’s missing the little ponytail? Thing? I should probably know what it’s called…

The thread’s on autosage, I’ll post the rest of my head designs for the main four in the MC’s new life. Be advised it’s Pre-Beg and I’m still not really sure how the mouths work for the show. All it’s really running on is Loomis Fun with a Pencil and some references, but here’s what some of the drafts or faces are supposed to look like.

>>6816167
Shit I linked if wrong.
>>6816070

Hat’s way too big on this one, and I just gave up on the body.

>>6816170
Here’s Mr. NoNobunaga. Squints like Brock until shit’s real and then gets possessed by demon ghosts and shit to fight or fly or whatever.

>>6816172
The other three are either total OCs or just BG characters reshaped, but this bitch comes from a character sheet they made of a random BG character for no reasons. I don’t like the letters and the teeth are bad, but it’s easier to see the flaws from what I’m trying to draw from with the proper refs she has.

Finished this. I feel like I learned a lot doing it. I tackled using gradient maps to color and was shocked how fun and easy it is. It gave me the perfect sort of retro fantasy palette without a ton of work. Here I thought all these artists were IQ 8000 with colors and it was just gradient maps... I also tried to improve metal rendering since someone brought that up before.

>>6816174
Sorry if that was sort of spammy, but it’s what gets me excited to do art even in these restricted conditions. Here’s the ref I was talking, red lines I think just mean ‘change color here, don’t draw these in the outlines’, since the characters in the show don’t have full circles for eyes, and they stop near the nose like that.

I could post the rest of the refs I had, but it would have to be one at a time since I can’t edit images together like Paint, on an iPhone. At least, I don’t know how to do that.

>>6816071
Also, holy shit, you haven’t tried jacking off until you tried it with Tenga.

>>6814567
Uoooh sexooooo ToT ToT ToT

>>6815848
well next time draw it BEFORE I do so you can save me the effort. what am i paying you for?!

>>6816380
>>6816380
new
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>>6816380

What figure drawing book should I study If I want to draw like kentaro miura

>>6815706
>>6815732
thank you

>>6814160
The left one definitely looks better. How about drawing the neck as a cylinder first? It usually helps me, sometimes.

>>6814264
Maybe this will help, I dunno.

>>6818574
I did this in 5-10 minutes, so of course it's not perfect, but the basic idea is applicable.

>>6814264
>>6818574

Found this as well. Hope it helps.

>>6812186
Microns are dirt cheap. I buy them a pack at a time and then spread the pens around my house. Every time one starts going thin I throw it away.