/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>/beg/ SOVL edition

Draw this new species in your style

>>6787881

>>6787936
>No reference, ~1.5 hours. Squishy boxes seem to help with the female form.
Fucking captcha.

>>6787909
can...can you fuck it?

>>6787944
Sure, if you don't mind bottoming

>>6787881
How do you study anatomy?
I swear this isn't a pet the dog question. Do you just read and roughly memorize anatomy books? Do you draw and label medical diagrams? Do you copy anatomy for artist illustrations? People say to copy Bridgman but people also say a prerequisite is to learn anatomy.

>>6787937
this is nice! good tummy
>>6787936
very soft looking, looks like good practice!

>>6787977
I draw "flayed" figures (no skin, with all muscles showing) from memory. Then I check my result against an anatomy book. You can do this one bodypart at a time

>>6787977
Whatever you need to do to understand and remember the 3D form of different body parts and how they move and connect. Most resources for artists will show you the same parts in different angles but it can help to find a 3D model to rotate. If you don't understand something in one resource try another, and if the artist resources aren't detailed enough check medical texts. And possibly physio textbooks to understand the movement better.

>>6787977
draw the bones and the muscles
anatomy for sculptors + hampton is a good combo

Reposting for feedback
>>6787881
>made it into the OP
I don’t know if this is good or bad. Especially since the OP is about anime and this was not meant to be anime.
I’m deebly goncerned

>>6788039
I think the face is not very appealing, hair could use more work, neck area and collar is weird
but the main issue is the lack of straight lines vs curves, right now everything is too wobbly imo
the same could be said about soft vs hard edges, right now everything is soft-ish, could use more contrast/variation

>>6788039
this is so disgusting

>>6788117
Papa mouse.... no....

I've started reading that How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way book that someone recommended a few days ago. What I should be doing is basically exercising the things they mention for a few days in a row right? Like, a week of breaking objects down into their basic forms, then a week of perspective then so on and so forth?

>>6788126
Basically, yeah. What I enjoy about the book is how simple it is yet how ubiquitous the techniques are. Like pic related could be in any modern art manual or instruction video. Also, look for the hour long video where the authors walk you through the book.

drawing of a butterfly from image. don't worry i didn't trace this image
this is my apex, atleast currently
i am acutally reading keys to drawing, currently on part where they are talking about taking measures which helped me a lot
i am also watching dynamic sketching by patrick ballesteros which i like, i am on week 4 now
after i am done with ballestros's videos i will finsih keys and then do bridgeman so i can finally draw humans

>>6788175
Very nice, especially considering that the butterfly has a lot of stuff going on! A tip: check out the negative space below the butterfly, it's an easy method to gain accuracy

today i draw more rinko

rinko

>>6788197
pickle rinko

>>6788197
>>6788200
shoulda drawn manko

>>6788217

sessica

>>6787487
>>6787534
(Cute)

>>6788039
who needs bridgeman anymore, we can move on to studying bridgeman-anon
i think you have achieved max level in feeling the form my friend
by the way, try placing the white highlights on another layer, and play with their colorization. you have a neutral-ish bg, warm sketch, and white highlights. relative to the rest the highlights therefore are cold-ish. my guess is, if you make them some sort of very bright yellow, orange they might look better. (just my guess, maybe its some entirely different color ie leaning into cold intentionally)
not because you are fucking up in their application, but because mixing color temperature carelessly creates a "muddy" feeling.
also post the ref, i want to follow you

>>6788125
>beg.png
>gmi
how i wish i could go back to playing WOT i dont know why but it does not feel like it used to

second attempt at new mindset drawing. started on an already begun old-style construction and just continued with lines. still falling back on creating multiple passes even with thin lines.

What do you say? Maybe the shadows in the background would look better if they were more purple and less grey. Also the highlights, more orange? Idk

Also feel free to critic everything else if you find something's wrong with it

>>6788304
you need more Bridgman desu

100 heads anon here, drew this yesterday and i don’t think it’s half bad.

is it actually good or am i dunning krugering? and how’s my symbol drawing disease looking?

Looking for feedback.

>>6788348

Let's see what 4chan thinks of my Little Red child

Last one, I promise.

>>6788354
>>6788357
>>6788358
Not a beg, you will get more useful advices in other threads

>>6788309
>shadows in the background would look better if they were more purple and less grey
Not necessarily. They are too gray, but you could either go with a shot more of red-orange to fit the general feel of the image or with purple to give a bit more contrast. The glow of her cup was a good idea, gives a good accent to what you want the audience to look at.
If I were to add anything, I would try to tone down the desaturation of the background by a minimal amount. A smidgen of contrast more for the hair and skin where the light ain't hitting. So to say, make the glow feel special. The overall feel of the image is good, but imo you need to push it just a bit more.
The only thing that looks weird is the black mass below her arm with the R. I cannot understand what it is supposed to be. Bag?

>>6788336
Fuck the haters. The struggle to greatness is unreal and every step is more than they would dare.
It looks like good weebshit for better and for worse. Next time try to lean a bit harder on the angles of the lips.

>>6788304
Your final outlines look a tad sharp and edgy imo. You lose the good feel of the blobby form you had when you crystalize to polyhedron outline. For instance, hair and hips feel flatter and and simpler than the prior attempts because they are too straight.

>>6788348
If you are gonna go with flat colors, make sure you character is casting a similar amount of shadow to the background. Right now she looks plopped on the bed and somewhat outside of it. Nex time try to add 2 tiers of shadow for the person just like you did for the background. "Just draw better" is also a valid suggestion, but shit takes 25 years.

>>6788301
It's fine. I'd always prefer if people added a hint of shading to their lines. Give it the 2.5 feel at least.

>>6788200
>>6788197
Cute.

>>6788175
Try to preserve the darks of the image in your work. Aka you made the line on the butterflies chest dark, make the eyes just as dark. Keep working, anon. You'll get there.

>>6788336
the best feedback is the one you give yourself (and praise is also valid feedback)
that said, the shape of the head is off and the eyes are too big, try overlaying it

day 26 (colors and values namek)
Fruits are good exercise because they always have interesting texture you need to take account of
I need to move further into my discomfort zone though, i need to PAINT BACKGROUNDS

>>6788304
I think you're the one who drew one of my favourite images from here, it was an anime girl with a guitar, the lineart style looks similar
>>6787881
nice the based op images are back
>>6788039
>Reposting for feedback
the face can't be muddy or blurry for coom, it needs to be clearly defined, sharp, same with hands desu, reminder that men look at the face while watching porn according to a study
also her tits are so uneven, that's not unrealistic i guess but sorta unappealing
>>6788336
not accurate, but also not ugly, you missed the subtle expression in her lips, that's the worst part

>>6788354
Are you the anon that drew the witch?
Her hair keeps looking too flat and the dress as well desu. There is something about the boots that seems out of place when compared with the color of the rest of her. It's a good design idea to make the boots and hair of similar color, but there is something about them boots that seems to strike me as out of place.

>>6788125
Feels like these threads mindbroke anons that they have a hard time evaluating how good they are. Keep working, my dude. You're doing well.

>>6788117
>No longer cheesed to meet you

>>6788039
>>6788304
to expand on that. not that the fucking color choice of sketches is of any importance lmao
but i happened to study color extensively when painting and wanted to elaborate further

>>6788321
bridgeman needs more me

>>6788336
the individual features are definitely not symbol drawn, but their placement inside the face is still disconnected like you would find in symbol drawn portraits.
the lips are accurate, but the bulging form underneath the lips continues past the red-lip-part and curves down on either side (the mouth bulge muzzle)
they eyes are accurate, but the space between upper eyelid and eyebrows is an actual feature of the face, a plane in 3d
the proportions are alright wherever you do measure, but for example the eye-cheeck-profile connection is lacking. the eye is recessed and forms a dip in the outline of her right (our left) side of the face. bordered on top by the brow ridge and on the bottom by her cute puffy cheek (same goes for the dip between cheek and chin)
the nose is accurate
the weird cropping of the ref makes it hard to pull it off in your defense

so no you are not symbol drawing technically
whatever you accomplished by piecing together lines into coherent facial features, you now have to do by piecing together facial features into a coherent face

you are on the right path anon. keep up the great work!

>>6788348
its cute as fuck but there is a lot wrong on many levels
if you are creating a finished picture my advice would be to not necessarily look for every possible fuck-up and laboriously fix and rework it. finished pictures are to be completed and enjoyed despite their flaws. unless you are doing a commission and need to spot as many big mistakes before delivering of course

the biggest "easy" to solve issue i see is that she feels disconnected from the bg. add shading on her, around her, casting from her onto the bed

>>6788362
>Your final outlines look a tad sharp and edgy imo[...]
i agree. im working on it ;_;

Should beginners like me focus on shapes, forms or both? Are shapes mostly for graphic styles like comics, animation, etc. and forms for "proper" drawing?

>>6788368
>I think you're the one who drew one of my favourite images from here, it was an anime girl with a guitar, the lineart style looks similar
i dont think i have ever drawn a guitar ever, my guess is you are mistaking me - sorry
however if you have that picture i would love to see it. if the style is similar, maybe i can learn from it lol

i have been experimenting with my drawing a lot in the past weeks, i think it is just a coincidence that i landed on an artist that you saw in the past

btw the apple looked real in the thumbnail, and the brush economy when zoomed in is impressive

>>6788336
Sorry for not responding to you yesterday, but this is an even better reference to make an example out of
This was shown in one of the old /ic/ stickies, what you're looking for in a picture when copying are lines and shapes, not "things"
Don't try to draw "lips" (a symbol), look at the lines and draw those, even and ESPECIALLY shadows need to be treated with this principle, everything is a shadow after all so don't just put down blotches for shadows, you need to study the shadow outline
>>6788348
is this supposed to be unnerving? She looks like she's about to get SNUFFED
>>6788354
I think you're pro and need to fuck off because you're making me insecure

>>6788399
>btw the apple looked real in the thumbnail, and the brush economy when zoomed in is impressive
thanks man but it's referenced lol
>>6788351
the dumbest quote ever?

Sup beg, behold: the final perspective boss: you have to beat (rotate) the shit out of the cube twice for it to reveal its final form.

>>6788397
PYW and focus on keys to drawing
>>6788368
amazing apple
>>6788357
she looks like good pedo bait, you are pro
>>6788348
add shades under her + pillow so they dont float. shades connect things
>>6788309
i kneel
>>6788125
TONK! cake! i kneel
>>6787979
very nice, it reminds me of dofus style, very soulful

warmup with poses from the other thread

>>6788415
congratulations pawell you're literally never going to use this information ever again unless you're sent back 200 years in time to become an architect using only pencils and rulers

>>6788405
nice pic. saved. yeah i can see the similarities in lines but i am nowhere near as confident as that artist yet
>thanks man but it's referenced lol
i know lol. even if it referenced, capturing the shine and firmness of an apple is not trivial. dont tell me you cant hear the sound in your mind when you look at that picture and imagine holding the apple, throwing it up and catching again. how your fingers meet the tight skin and reverberate through its ripe yet firm flesh
whatever it means to capture the essence or gesture of a figure, to capture more than what should physically be possible to capture in a drawing, the same thing you accomplished with the apple. to capture more more sensations than should be possible <3

>>6788421
>dont tell me you cant hear the sound in your mind when you look at that picture and imagine holding the apple, throwing it up and catching again. how your fingers meet the tight skin and reverberate through its ripe yet firm flesh
we have aphantasia here sir

>>6788429
KEK

>>6788336
Is your goal to stylize them? Yeah, still symbol drawing. Look at it in terms of values. For example, there is no hard line outlining the nose. The only dark shape is the cast shadow beneath. Think like you are painting shades with a pencil rather than drawing lines of features. That’s the transition away from “symbol drawing”. And don’t just draw a hundred faces because. You need to practice applying the right technique.

>>6788039
>>6788043
Yeah, heads are a weakness for me still.

I think some of the issue is I did much less underlying construction than I usually do — building from the inside out — in an attempt to try a (slightly) more direct approach to the lines and shapes. I’m not at that level yet.

It sounds like the biggest problem is composition issues, in the way I designed the forms making up the figure. I wanted a counter to the hard, angular blockiness of Bridgman, and went too far into the softness with no contrasting hardness. I really appreciate the detailed feedback, this is a big help. Thank you very much!

>>6788102
Understandable. Can you please be more specific, though? What exactly is gross and why? Or even just generally what you don’t like and would prefer.
>>6788304
>>6788393
>we can move on to studying bridgeman-anon
Ha. I’ve actually considered drawing from your sketches. Something about especially the thighs and torso is very appealing to me.
>i think you have achieved max level in feeling the form my friend
Th-thanks

Your new, more direct approach to line work is looking pretty good. It looks like subtle refinements like line weight, flow, etc. would be easy enough to add in as an iteration of polish to existing, already-good lines. It’s pretty cool.

I think you’re more used to depicting form with value than with line. Your red blobs are succulent little morsels of 3D appeal, and your new approach is just shy of that level. Maybe line-only organic forms would help? Then again, you did JUST start this method. Maybe you’ll eventually hybridize them, idk. Looks good, though
>ref
Pic related
>color
Oh, interesting. Again, composition issues, but with the colors. I’ll try messing with color temperature. I’ve literally never paid attention to that before. I have much to learn. I’ve saved that to study. Thank you!
>>6788368
Again, mostly composition stuff: detailed vs vague. I gotta work on hands and heads, then. And tits. Thanks!

>>6788117
>>6788121
anons, you inspired me

>>6788459
>>6788039
Your drawing is greasy, sloppy, stinky, unwashed, unshaven, deformed; but unlike the ref your sketch actually makes my pp go awooga. You have a bright future in coom.

>>6788469
Cheese don't do it! You're a gouda man, and we depend on you in queso you forgot. I camembert the thought of living without you and taking care of our child all provolone. We can build a feta life if we work to-cheddar!

>>6788469
That is so FUCKING good! Glad I inspired U anon!!

>>6788362

Thanks a lot for the advices anon, really appreciate it!

>I cannot understand what it is supposed to be. Bag?

Yeah, it's a bag

>>6787144
more Vilppu form analysis.

>>6788039
I think you are trying to give her a sweatty/shiny look, but your art remined me of pic related

Starting to get to the point where someone might conceivably recognize a person that I drew.

>>6788570
based
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>>6788369
Yeah I'm the witch guy.
I was also that faggot who posted the dragon that everybody seemed to like a while back too. Not sure what you mean by the hair or dress though. People are telling me it looks fine so if you can show me a way to make it look better then I'm all for it. I kinda like the boots as well, but again, this might be a personal preference difference that I'd have to see to really make a decision on.
>>6788361
>more useful advice in other threads
That's what you think, but you forget that /int/ people are supposedly lumped here too. /asg/ is too caught up in the Krenz notes I shared with them a while back and doing direct copies to really have anything useful to say. Most of those guys are at the same level as the beg threads anyways, and the draw threads basically are the same as well. There's a couple decent people there,but I haven't had much luck extracting anything useful out of them yet. Maybe I'll try again...
>>6788401
Yeah I believe the term for that is "uoooah" or something like that.....heh
>>6788415
Congratulations Pawell, you have finally understood perspective....until you realize most of the stuff you practiced wont matter unless you're designing complicated hard surface stuff(in which case it's more practical to use Box modeling 3D). Basically you've learned the abstract theories but you haven't truly gotten a "feeling" for it when applied to common subjects like figures or background designs. A lot of what you really needed to know was just being able to create grids in 1pt, 2pt and 3pt and being able to measure and duplicate things quickly and then eyeballing the rest.

>>6788469
amazing
saved

>>6788581
You should try a grid drawing. The only way you’re going to get a good replication is by going for it. Do all the fine measurements and everything and go all the way. Almost like you are tracing from a distance. Until you go for that, you won’t understand why there’s a gap between your sketches right now and the reference, and what it takes achieve resemblance.

>>6787312
>>6787348
Woah thats impressive, thanks Anon
>>6787299
Thanks

anything that helps drawing anime/manga heads?
I'm having trouble drawing the head in different perspectives while keeping good looking proportions. It's driving me crazy

My fellow men! I must say that it is great disappointment to see you capturing the richness of this world through dull and cheap graphite slop. I regret to say, such choices once again confirm that class and fine taste has never been a matter of money, but of character.

I as a renessaince man shall refuse to treat myself anything other than sanguine and sepia, their warm earthly glow satisfying, like the soft touch of a beautiful woman's feet.

Can u draw this in your style?

>>6788634
why would i?

>>6788636
Ur playing a dangerous game here

>>6788634
>tfw begging cup becomes begging bucket
ill get em next time

I don't think you can add a background after you draw a floating character in white space, it's just not possible, you have to preplan how the character is supposed to interact with a background
It's like adding gesture after you already drew a stiff figure, it can't be done

>>6788658
Draw a box for the chest in the closest perspective and put them in a room that follows that perspective and add furniture or plants as needed. Better than nothing but very limited.

>>6788362
>>6788393
>>6788415
Thanks bros
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>>6788401
What'd I do?

>>6788678
The composition makes it look like it's a snuff film
It looks like an adult set up the camera, because it's high up, but it's not pointed at the bed or at her like a pervert would do, it's just mounted well enough that the general area of interest is visible. She's waving to the camera, she seems naive, but not excited like she would be had she been groomed, just curious like "I wonder what we're going to do with the camera". I feel like her sitting on the bed confirms it's something bad that's about to happen. If it were an innocent family home movie she would be walking around or inspecting the room, kids don't have the patience to sit and wait for something unless they're told to, and why would her father tell her to do that for a home movie? The lighting and colors give an eery feeling to it, just flat lifeless lighting.

trying to learn clothes to dress my poor figures

>>6788658
a simple rectangle or stripe in solid color for the background can make all the difference

>>6788614
thanks bro, give me a few minutes and I'll post today's practice too

fear and hunger selfship art ^_^

>>6788614
these here are from today if you want to see too

>Tfw "draw what you see" wasn't a joke

Everything is just angles, negative space and can be simplified into lines. There is no mystery to it or special skills. You just need to see something for what it is and nothing else.

>>6788761
this. even construction is just simply knowing what a box, bean, and cylinder looks from every angle, and then combining that. And then even after that, for complex shapes like human anatomy, you need to do thousands of more hours of figure drawing to know the true shape anatomy will take from every angle

The point of construction knowledge is just to act like a table of contents that helps organize what you see

>>6788737
i know this isn't a redline thread but this is the most concise way to give feeback

>>6788789
good redline anon. do more!

Any critiques? Besides the arm/hands. I tried to make this pose look loose

>>6788745
NTA, How'd did you do that Clip Studio Paint animatic? Also cute Jalter.

>>6788745
Thanks for posting that anon, it really helped you have no idea.

>>6788789
>>6788745
>>6788737
Thank you for sharing the process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvBfiRWLj_0

>>6788578
What book this is from?

>>6788792
thanks bro, check this option when creating a new canvas
>>6788789
that's very good advices bro, I just saved the pic to study, thanks
clothes and fabrics are a whole new subject for me
>>6788796
>>6788800
np lads

Anon from a few threads ago here

I feel like I'm drastically worse at anatomy on a (screenless) tablet vs on paper. Are there any of you guys who have had similar issues? What worked best for overcoming or adapting to it?

Reference: https://quickposes.com/assets/poses/b29972e77c5000247322c8898d43974c.jpg

>>6788816
that is cool, i might have to switch from photoshop

>>6788790
no problem :)

>>6788792
i tried to focus the critique on everything besides arms, hope this helps

>>6788824
I mean this in the nicest possible way anon, it's not as if you're level 100 on paper dropping to level 1 again, in your case it's like being level 1,5 on paper dropping to level 1, you'll figure it out I'm sure.

>>6788824
Obligatory recent anatomy drawing

contrast study

>>6788816
>check this option when creating a new canvas
Thanks, didn't know that was an option there.

>>6788833
Thanks for this amazing redline! I've been a beginner at anatomy atm, but I'm trying to study it more.
>hope this helps
This definitely helped me anon! Thanks for pointing out specifically on what needs to be fixed with notes. Thank you

>>6788838
both look flat, and with poor line quality
look at the first lessons in vilppu for the first, and some line control exercises from dynamic sketching / drawabox for the second

>>6788855
Well, you see. My girl wants to party all the time, party all the time, party all the time

>>6788835
That's more encouraging than you might think, thanks anon.
>>6788855
This is pretty good, thanks for the tip! How can I best apply picrelated to my drawing?

I saw >>6788218 and tried drawing it, but I got stumped. I tried the "trace over with boxes" practice instead and it still doesn't seem to work well. Any advice?

>>6788853
>>6788833
Here's the naked version, I forgot to show it

>>6788838
i would also recommend doing some muscle studies, it's frankly tedious and boring but it'll really help you understand where the significant areas of mass are in the body- even just a few exercises of methodically drawing over muscle diagrams should improve your anatomy tons

>>6788885

>>6788886

Been making it a habit of drawing most ideas that come to my head for characters. I want to get better but im more of a hands on learner and I get filtered by books and such.

I draw weird art and my extended family knows this, and they follow my instagram. But I’ve never posted anything remotely sexual. Which is making me feel uneasy lol.

>>6788868
the box step is a tool to help visualize
go in steps and make corrections along the way

>>6788552
The horned girl’s arm looks odd where it reaches over and across the girl being groped. Groped girl’s hand on the horned girl’s arm looks weird. Your line art is very impressive, but it’s a bit hard to read with the under drawing still visible. Also horned girl’s lips and thighs are great! Keep it up, you’ve got promise!
>>6788570
NICE!
>>6788469
That is amazing, 10/10 /pro/ level composition.
>>6788357
Jesus. You’re really good. Appeal, character design, faces—all that’s left is nit-picking minor details.

Top left looks like she’s shooting flame instead of peering a fire doggie.
Top right, the pattern on her dress doesn’t follow the form as it wraps around her, so it completely flattens out. Compare the pattern around the hem of her dress in top right to bottom left. The cast shadow on top right’s legs flattens them out as well. The laces on top right’s boot face towards the camera (like in bottom left) when they should probably be in perspective closer to bottom right’s laces.
Top right, the fabric should be soaked and heavy, clinging wetly to her body. The hem of her skirt shouldn’t be flaring out all carefree like that.
>>6788354
In the center standing pose, she’s holding her arms like Ted Cruz, lol. Not that it’s incorrect, just a little stiff and awkward. Which is fine for a character sheet, but then her feet aren’t as stiff. Btw her right (our left) foot looks a little bit more like a left foot, due to the outward sweep of the toe box on her boot.
The back view should probably have a clearer separation between the body and sleeve of her dress. Also, the pattern of her dress ignores the perspective distortion and overlap of the fabric as it wraps around her.
>>6788358
Lovely! You should be proud. Just work on a little perspective and feeling the form and you’re basically /pro/ tier!
>>6788477
Th… thanks, I think. To bring something beyond the ref is VERY high praise! But idk if I wanna be a coom artist.

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>>6788950
Same guy?

what i did today

Why is beige paper / background colour so comfy?

>>6789225
you mean newsprint?

>>6789228
Idk how is it called in english, I didnt even know it had a specific name.
I just mean paper (or background layer for digital) coloured in beige.

1H

Thanks anon, your Procreate brush works wonders, I really like using it.

I still cant get used to digital drawing, it doesnt feel good at all.
I get so demotivated whenever I try drawing I keep wondering why do I even try.

https://litter.catbox.moe/r57kgn.png

>>6789244
she went from passable drunken one night stand fuckpig to easter island fuckpig
i can dig it

>>6789251
Thanks, feedback for my earlier work was to focus on values, so I did that plus added some of my own emphasis.

>>6789253
for a more serious feedback though, you drew easter island-esque face comapred to her more round and soft featured face because you are still in the "internalizing structure"phase where you are still drawing things not based on what you see, but based on the formula you practise

try to modify the formula you see in construction examples to fit exactly what you see, even if first you draw a gesture (yes a gesture of a face, you can do a gesture or quick sketch if you will, of anything) then you try to draw a modified version of that formula for construction that fits the exact shape in fornt of you

this vid is a good example on using these construction formulas as a base of knowledge but then modifying them to fit what you want https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np-liwtz81Q&ab_channel=TimMcburnie-TheDrawingCodex

this is the next step in the process of not needing so much construction like you see more advanced artists do, the hard as fuck inbetween step

>>6789262
Thanks for that. I'll watch soon. I'll work on that moving forward.

>>6789250
Oh, good! I’m glad you like it.
Idk what you’re talking about, Anon. Those are pretty decent forms, good little boxes, and some really good lips, especially the dude with the cigarette. I can tell you’re developing a decent sense of form. It looks like you’re trying to construct figures from imagination. With foreshortening! in perspective! That shit’s RIDICULOUSLY hard, especially if you don’t already draw near-perfect figures from reference. I wouldn’t worry about it. You still want to practice inventing gestures, of course, but just for fun to see how far you get/if you can even do it.

You might be burning out on studies. Try drawing stuff for the hell of it, random memes, plump cameltoes, sea creatures, mecha, etc. Whatever you think would be fun, without worrying about what others would think or that it has to be good or that you have to “learn” something. Just fuck around and have fun with your pencil. Even if you draw ignoble things, as long as you’re enjoying yourself, it doesn’t matter. If you’ve been bashing your head against a particular wall, spend less time on that specific study and do other stuff instead for a bit. Drawing purely for fun, copying anime, drawing puppies, designing Batman gadgets, learning about painting or something completely different. If you see something cool and feel inspired, just do that without worrying about having to force yourself to “draw the right thing.”

Or do the same studies, but make it more fun for yourself. Like if you’re studying organic forms, draw boobs from different angles and levels of squish. Or UFOs. If you’re trying to rotate boxes, rotate cartoony jeeps or guns instead. If you’re studying Bridgman, make his figures into cat girls. If you’re studying perspective, make little cityscapes for Godzilla to fuck up. Or for a giantess to crush. whatever, I don’t judge. And neither should you! Have a little mercy on yourself lol.

WAGMI

>>6789122

>>6787936
Don't do details before you're finished constructing the major forms. Your figures look contorted as shit and don't make sense anatomically.

I've been in a rut with my art for a majority of the year, I can't draw as good as I want to and I feel like I'm stuck in a hole with no where to go. Do you guys have any videos I can just follow along for studies or suggestions for feeling lost? It annoys me so much and I feel like I'm going to go absolutely nuts.

>>6788039
Uooh sexoooo

One of today's figure practice

>>6789331
it looks like you focus on the outlines whereas you should be thinking of the volumes of body parts and only pay attention to the outlines when placing the final lines

your lines are chicken-scratchy which indicates that you are slowly building up the outlines piece by piece like a newly-blind person slowly feeling their way around an unfamiliar room

>>6789331
>>6789333
i guarantee you i am not putting in more effort than you. in fact you might be working harder than me when doing a figure drawing

it is only partially about skill and experience, a large part of the outcome of your figures is how you approach them

i identify the biggest, most important (in my opinion and taste) forms / volumes / shapes / whatever you want to call it
and just place them roughly where they are supposed to go

from then on, their illusion of 3d space and overlap helps me place more accurate marks. and all of those marks automatically inherit all the small details that give an impression of a coherent figure

they way it seems you approach drawing is taking on a difficult challenge. make it easier for yourself. take care of the gesture, the 3d form and the final look in deliberate mindsets. right now you are putting all the burden on drawing the outlines

note how my first stage "gesture" is horrible, but at that moment it was enough to place the 3d forms
and the 3d forms are not accurate to anatomy, just enough to design (consciously! not fearfully guessing) where i want to place lines

consider picking easier poses and fatter women (lel) if not in general then perhaps as warmups

in any case, ganbatte anon!

>>6788737
>a simple rectangle or stripe in solid color for the background can make all the difference
how do i do that

>>6789361
unrelated but this is glorious

>>6789362

>>6789367
lel but also i still don't get it

>>6789371

3rd day being consistent tried alot of new stuff

>>6788814
i think its from drawing on the right side of the brain.

I'm struggling with them bitch ass diagonally rotated cubes—I demand thy help.

>>6789493
I know they are cuboids, not cubes, but let's stick to the subject at hand.

>>6789065
Thanks for pointing that out. I will fix that.
>>6789129
Yes.

thought this was interesting for begs. was watching a video on how old photos were manipulated even in the 1800s, they cold do anything. this is an example of drawing an eye

Wishing all begs a wonderful art journey. I make this doodle for you

>>6789538
cute doodle, I saw you and the other draw at that one thread you made, really cool stuff, you have a blog?

Hello beg. I'm drawing little these days since I'm working around the farm and garden and on another project (quest). I did the eye exercise and copied some eyes from the book. Yesterday I drew the apple core and pepper drawing guy.

Also I realised my feedback is Dunning Kruger. I will not stop.

>>6789407
You should use reference if you aren't doing so already.
>>6789378
>>6789363
magnificent
>>6789367
lmao
>>6789202
Good job putting in the effort today. I am too beg to critique this.
>>6789111
Are these Loomis heads? I remember this stuff from when I was working through Drawing the Head and Hands.
>>6788978
My parents know I considered drawing coom. Unfortunately it is criminalized in my country, so that way is closed. I didn't want it too bad anyway, my goal is manga currently.
>>6788792
I like it, especially the expression and boob bags, even if they're a meme lol.
>>6788770
spooky
>>6788469
I love it when anons take meme stuff or interesting prompts and create something cool out of it. I strive to be like you.
>>6788415
I am scared of the perspective you're posting. Looks like arcane lines to me.
>>6788336
You're unconsciously stylizing your heads. This is the drawback of drawing 1000 anime. You have to re-learn realistic faces from 0. Keep striving for accurate proportions and measuring.
>>6788309
This is great but I don't understand what exactly is going on. Is she eating a glowing flower from the glass? Drinking through a straw?
>>6788175
I like how the soft, blurry lines on the wings make them look like true butterfly wings covered in their dust. Thumbs up.
>>6787979
Adventurous. Cool.
>>6787937
Good study.
>>6787617
Looks like fucking aliens.
>>6787324
Consider changing the way in which you draw faces. This one is strange, looks amateurish.
>>6787169
Cool fantasy alien creature.
>>6787090
I like this.
>>6787050
There are small inaccuracies, but it is a good copy. Now finish it.
>>6786982
>>6786787
Cute.
>>6786916
Surreal page.

>watch Vilppu drawing for the first time
>immediately have a dream about drawing the figure like he does, and then suddenly finding my new drawings have disappeared as audiences came and stole them
Is this about a loss of authenticity or is it to do with appealing to people?

>>6789540
yeah just google hakobeart if you want to ruin the magic of some cool artist lurking among you and realize I'm retarded (and possibly autistic)

what's a good way to simplify foot construction, i'd ask /alt/ but idk when they died and this isn't /sex/ material

>>6789541
>Also I realised my feedback is Dunning Kruger. I will not stop.
your feedback pots are one of the highlights of this general
never stop pls

>>6789628
cute

>>6788039
That is a very erotic sack of potatoes

>mfw I'll never be part of the small /beg/ thread family because I can't post pictures and my post get glossed over
It's almost as if most of you already know each other and I'm trying to get into your closed group

>>6789541
>I'm working around the farm
DUDE you're living on a FARM. there's so much cool shit for you to draw. Get through the book quick and starting DRAWING

never tried drawing/painting like this before. wasn't sure how to approach it.

>>6789804
>he bought?

>>6789821
I keked but don't be mean anon

Sup beg. Shodows!

>>6789694
1. buy a pass
2. call your ISP and demand different IP
3. call your ISP and demand static IP (usually paid)
4. get mobile internet (different IP)
5. walk to mcdonalds or any other place with public WiFi and PYW there
6. steal your neighbor WiFi
7. get different ISP
8. unplug router, wait 10 minutes, plug it in (might get different IP)
you would probably get ignored anyway
>>6789628
asians have somewhat flat faces by default but you took it to another level!
>>6789574
read any book about figure, like https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61187735-anatomy-for-artists
>>6789538
her tshirt should say PYW and behind her should be army of crabs xD
>>6789521
>didnt link the video
>>6789493
have you tried reading any perspective book? also in my previous post >>6788415 you can literally see what happens to vanishing points when you rotate the cube
>>6789322
just open any art book about the topic you feel like you are weakest in, easy. also PYW!
>>6789282
INT
>>6789259
this is like real art. i kneel
>>6789244
many accuracy errors, the biggest one being eyes not places in middle of skull. next time spend a but more time measuring and plumbing. also you completely dislocated her elbow
>>6788978
i am not a fan of chroma filter but it is really cool overall
>>6788743
cute
>>6788658
adding background is trivial if you know basics of perspective. you DO know perspective rules, dont you anon?
>>6788620
there are like billion books about anime, try this one?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60382832-design-your-own-anime-and-manga-characters
>>6788814
loomis, i think illustration design one

>>6789828
>asians have somewhat flat faces by default but you took it to another level!
Why are you being a sarcastic cunt to him when you're wasting your life away doing these perspective exercises?

>>6789827
>>6789821
what does that mean?

anime head studies, thoughts?

>>6789842
>>6789828
Like this is your level, don't be a dunning kruger condescending cunt and no I'm not that anon I'm just fed up with someone as shit as you talking shit.

>>6789851
>study
what did you learn?

>>6789845
He was implying the girl resembled the guy in the "he bought?" meme
https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1826056-bogdanoff-twins
Don't take it to heart though

>>6789853
I did it for mileage, but what would you call it if not study? Guess I learn to be more accurate each time, and a little bit about how shapes change in different views maybe

>>6789628
I like it, chommang inspired.

couple of madocopies

>>6789851
nice, I'd do the bottom two again, those seem to be the ones with the biggest issues

day 27 (colors and values namek)
boy am I stepping out of my comfort zone because i FUCKING HATE THIS SHIT FUCK
Doing these value studies is like pulling teeth

>>6789828
>adding background is trivial if you know basics of perspective. you DO know perspective rules, dont you anon?
that's an equally gross oversimplification as saying
>adding figures is trivial if you know basics of perspective
>>6789574
seach it up on pinterest and get a bazillion results
>>6789558
>>6789596
>>6789627
i like these, now make it a cute anime girl floating in space
>>6789493
this is so funny to me for some reason
>>6789361
rare blobanon L
>>6788978
this painting makes me so happy, saved

Please give shading tips

>>6789950
Before shading/fixes

>>6789828
>>6789940
yeah i should have figured, thanks anyway m8s

>>6789951
i would first fix the chicken scratching issue that you have before continuing to shading also you clearly cant mesure that well yet so i would suggest you take more time because its pointless to shade something that is drawn innacurately i havent been to beg in years so im not sure if you are aware about bargue drawings and dorian itens drawing accuracy guide witch are both great resources for beginners that want to draw realistic figures. also can you post the reference since it looks like something i might want to try to draw

>>6789940
mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko

>>6787881
Thoughts?

Galaxili from btd6

>>6789828
>>6789521
okay heere is video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_QYVFymQw

>>6789953
Soulful as fuck. I just feel like your style would benefit from a bit more detail because the appeal is already there. This also looks a bit small so I think drawing bigger would also go a long way. Overall though, this is good work

didn't take my time but still posting it

>>6789951
>asks question about shading
>>6789965
>muh chicken scratches and why do you care about shading anyway you're not that good buddy also *crab crab crab crab crab crab*
>now after not giving any insight on the question asked spoon-feed me the reference NOW so I can draw it
parasite

i was looking skeleton art and almost none of them have the actual number of ribs. even in professional art for videogames and stuff

>>6789558
>>6789596
>>6789627
>>6789728
These are good and you improved from the first one. I recommend aiming for cleaner lines next. Are they timed? Draw slowly without a time limit to try to get the right line in fewer tries.

im hopeless

>>6790005
>>6789992

>>6790003
ty, the biggest struggle i have right now is wrangling my lack of attention to do cool things. drawing the same piece for too long gets exponentially more boring/frustrating, and i have to be super careful with these trad pics because it's easy for me to fuck it all up.

>>6790026
how not be flat?

>>6790023
what is your goal here? Don't draw through your cylinders, only draw the side that is towards the viewer

>>6790038
Are you the Anon that drew the face or Galaxili? Or are you neither.

>>6790045
face
>>6790023
try drawing the cylinders on the model first

>>6790038
Well, it becomes a lot harder to figure out at your stage because you use shading as a crutch, draw a couple heads without shading and then post them here.

>>6790007
i wasnt crabbing you retard, you cant accurately shade something that is innacurately drawn also the shit i reccomended charles bargues drawing course (dorian iten is supplementary basically) teaches you how to draw accuratelly AND shading from the most simple plates to the more difficult one. and my bad for wanting a fucking ref you tard

>>6790065
Post work crabchan.

>>6790056
I’d say honestly to look into Loomis heads, because your features are poorly placed proportion wise, the drawing is very flat, and you need to work on how you draw the features. As for the flatness in particular, it’s mostly because you shaded the face but didn’t establish the forms or shape of the face very well. I think a bit of perspective knowledge would also be useful here, which also prevents flatness

>>6789950
start with value studies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTRYW7Lmdb4

Yubel wip

>>6790066
if you are the op give me the ref and ill do that if its a good quality ref otherwise ur getting an old bargue plate i did

>>6790074
I'm not him, I just always ask people who give backhanded passive aggressive advice to post their work.

>>6790074
what skills did you develop (in your opinion) by copying bargue plates?

>>6790007
>>6790066
the dude was giving you good advice. your drawing is off everywhere. stop chimping out at him

>>6790090
>What the fuck you want to start shading? Fix your chicken scratching you're clearly to dogshit to learn anything from shading, hey by the way I'm way too good for beg I am basically /pro/ now haven't been in this dogshit thread for years that's how much better than you I am, but I guess if you have to start shading your shit art do (insert resources here) also link me ref.

I'm not the anon he responded to but this is how I read his post and I doubt he even draws.

>>6790086
>>6790086
it basically teaches you how to draw from the ground up(i only mean representational drawing) it teaches you hiw to mesure and how to shade in a very intuitive way by starting you off with very easy copys of only lines ,into body parts with very simple shading, to complex fullbody poses with complex shading
>>6790066
here go you fucking retard,is it great? no, but probably much better than most of /beg/ now pyw or give the dude some shading advice since my advice is obviously crabbing

>>6790114
Here is probably my best work desu.

>>6790115
woah mama

>>6790114
read loomis

>>6790070
thanks for the critique

>>6790114
>copy shit
>better
anyone can copy shit given enough time

>>6790114
Ok, now draw a figure similar to the guy you responded to did and shade it, I want to see if your practice gets results.

>>6790137
>>6790129
this is why i said i havent been on beg for years because it doesnt matter what kind of advice you give and pyw there will always be retards that cant appreaciate shit

>>6790154
>Anon asks for advice on shading his drawing
>You respond that he sucks and you're good
>You get asked to post work
>Posts bargue plates, literal copy paste drawings
>Gets upset when asked to post a shaded figure drawing
>Mentions again how good you are.
>Leaves
Good riddance retard.

>>6790043
noted, will update later with some more practice. i’m mostly using the cylinders to get a better idea of three dimensions, but i’m liking what >>6789728 was doing for practice. i’m gonna try a few things and update with progress


>>6790056
ty ! will try this as well

>>6790158
pyw so that you can show the anon that its better to listen to your advice than mine, and since bargues are so simple you shoud have no problem doing one of the begginer ones in 30 min as proof you arent talking out your ass

>>6790164
I already posted my work it is here >>6790115
But here is a bonus owl I did.

vilppu or hampton?

>>6790164
Also I never gave any advice fuckface.

>>6788570
this piece of shit took so embarrassingly long that I got frustrated at the other arm and just gave the bitch a hook for a hand. sharing both my highs and my lows. just like last time an attempt at overlaps and form analysis

>>6790114
The dunning kruger /ints/ always take the bait.

>>6790166
truly someone whose advice is worth its weight in gold. neck yourself faggot

>>6790173
> just gave the bitch a hook for a hand
lmao

>>6790176
Are you really this stupid? Just ignore him.

>>6790164
>>6790154
>>6790114
>>6790065
>>6789965
POV: you learn the hard way why not to respond to text-only posts and why to give advice only to regular progress posting /beg/s

>>6790114
Bargue plates are like the lowest level of hyper realism, legit timewaster unless you're a faggot trying to draw hyperrealism then just get a camera retard.

>>6790180
the reason why i didnt ignore him is so that anons that lurk dont retardedly think that my advice was usseles because some retard who cant draw pushed back with retarded statements(that they might take as fact because they are begginers) but yea i do intend to stop now it was fun for a bit but i wasted enough time

>>6790169
both
vilppu first

>>6790169
why not both?

unles you’re being held at gunpoint being forced to choose one then it’s vilppu

>>6790190
SIKE THAT WAS ME HERE IS ANOTHER JOHNNY BRAVO.

>>6790193
Thanks
>>6790194
I should have specified which first like the other anon mentioned

>>6790195
kill yourself

>>6788888
whoa mama

>>6789513
You're a Yuri God.

How can I improve? I am doing fundies while also trying to apply what I learn to do character designs, but something is always off

>>6790233
Go draw real people for a year and then come back.

>>6789333
>>6789361
Thank you for the example and detailed description of your process. I actually gesture the line of action first. Then I just mark the landmarks and very rough outline that I later refine.
I'll be honest, I don't really comprehend the "volumes" in your example yet, but I just finished Eviston's "figure drawing - gesture" course and I will now move on to his "figure drawing - volume and structure", which will hopefully clear things out.

>>6790233
>symbol eyes
>stiff poses/flat

>>6790235
okay, I know I should first master drawing real proprotions before going stylized but shouldn't I even try to dip my toes a bit in theese type of drawings? Or focuse soelly on drawing realistic first without any side dishes?
>>6790239
Well I just wanted to try soem character designing also how do I make my poses more dynamic?

>>6790250
You can for sure do stylized shit, but it shouldn't be the majority of your drawings and at your level I don't think drawing stylized shit will help you improve.

just practice for 7 years and you too will be able to sort of draw a skull

>>6790254
I see, well thank you, I don't draw stylized exclusively, I actually draw bunch of more realistic faces but I guess I got a bit impatient and jumped on cartoon stuff

>>6789990
It looks good. I think the white highlighting on the trunk (mainly the v shaped highlight at the top of the trunk nearest the branches, and the two straight lines of white on the bottom right quadrant of the trunk) look a little bit weird in places. I think it's overall very nice. I like how the Celtic knot thing at the base is a little imperfect and organic so it looks like maybe a tree really could grow like that, rather than being a blatant clipart design. I think it's interesting that the highlighting on the trunk is trying to give the trunk more 3D form, but the entire rest of the tree is more of a graphic 2D design. You might want to design the highlights such that they're more deliberately flat and "graphic 2D design" looking, as an experiment. I don't have specific advice on doing that, though. I think the main branch to the right has slightly too stiff a gesture, coming straight out at 90 degrees to the trunk, with no flowy curve like the other limbs.

It looks very cool, anon. You're the guy who's designing a tree of life tattoo, right? Good job!
>>6788578
Noted, thank you!
>>6789330
Thanks?
>>6789688
Thanks. I think I need to work on contrasting hard vs soft and not just pillowy mounds of soft flesh.
>>6789694
Can you upload to catbox, post links, and PYW that way? There's an anon who posts sick sketches of goblin heads and stuff, he's really good and he posts catbox links. Just start sharing and asking and posting and stuff. We're all just anons here, fren.

Hey everybody sorry for the shitstorm my drawing caused lol. >>6789965 Bargue-kun let me cut you a deal. I'm sorry for all the grief
I caused you. I've tried to improve my drawing (picrel) if it's still too shit ass proportioned to apply shading to then redline it and I'll spoonfeed you your beloved reference. And if anyone in the thread could give more detailed advice other than read book/watch youtube tutorial (things I already do I promise you) then I'll suck you off or whatever

>>6790257
Looks good in the thumbnail.

>>6789875
Indeed, I’m trying to learn his style and process. That ref is from his latest video

First sketch, idk what I'm doing

>>6790272
kek i dont mind the banter it was fun and i hope you didnt take any advice i gave you as backhanded or condesending i just really belive that bargue is the way to go if you want to learn as a begginer. i cant redline the drawing since i dont have the reference but i can just at a glance tell that you took more time with the face and tits than the rest of the body, the hands seem too small and the right leg seens very weird where the hamstrings are
>>6790072
this anon posted a decent video

also its easyer if the reference has clearly defined shadows since it will make it easyer for you to render it other then that stick to the basic priciple to divide the lights from the darks and refine the transitions with halftones any halftones in the lights will always be brigher than any halftones in the darks though you probably heard this a million times if you watch tutorials

>>6790288
>Needs reference to redline
not looking good for barguechan.

>come back after some time
>progress posters still ignored
>crabs still getting all the (You)s with none of the kys
you niggers seriously need to gatekeep your thread from useless human garbage posters

>>6790310
But that was you barguechan.

>>6790208
No. I have just been sketching men traditionally and decided to practice more with women digitally as I slowly transition to the new medium.

>>6790038
Is there some searchable tag for contour tape on limbs? they are legitimately helpful.

>>6790324
probably not lol but you could do it on yourself or a friend and take pictures

>>6790286
yo is that some trussy I'm spying

Decided to try doing that 100 heads challenge, here's the first 10

I struggle with anything that isn't either wrinkly or ugly but that's hardly a surprise

This shit is so fucking hard.

Like, I get hands, but like, this is just insane. I just cant.

Does feeling the form ever get easier?
I have to force myself to draw properly, if I stop focusing for a second I revert to just drawing lines. It's exhausting.

>>6789828
You should use all those lines and diagrams to design a rope that can help pull you out of crabdom, Pawell. Do you even enjoy drawing anymore?

I somehow prefer your old scratchy attempts at human figures, despite their crudeness they had plenty of soul.

>>6790261
I recommend doing figure drawing more than faces if you want to do cartoons as it's more directly applicable to them. It'll help with the stiffness. And yes keep doing some original work at the same time, even if it isn't very good. No point in just studying.

>>6790038
this was a fun mental workout
quite inaccurate at places, I'll redo it in a few days

>>6790250
Vilppu

>>6790351
Do it in detail. Dobe rush it you adhd ass

>>6790351
bro it's just cylinders it's easy as fuck

>>6790286
very nice anon, I see you watched some designschool videos

>>6790286
based and justdraw-pilled
I'd try varying the line weight some more: right now you have very light and very heavy weight, try some gradations

>>6788882
Thanks so much anon, this is some very good feedback

>>6790286
the more you observe, and the more you build your visual library, the more you'll be able to spot whether you're doing something right or now. All drawing comes from nature.

>>6787881
Am I GMI, anons?

Shodows! Lets goooo

>>6790355
it gets easier (a little)
>>6790347
i approve of your challenge
>>6790310
this is normal human behavior: you reply the most to stuff which causes emotion, thats why journalism in 2023 is dead and we only get clickbaits with nonsense
>>6790233
draw from reference AND do master studies of artists which are above your skill level. Your drapery is super weak so maybe open some art book about how to draw clothes and you dont render well which makes your figures a little flat
>>6790154
just dont feed the crabs, its that simple
>>6790023
after you draw the simplified figure using geometrical shapes you are supposed to put that layer on like 10% transparency and draw the actual human figure above it. like this you are just training how to draw cylinders (and they are a bit beg cylinders)
>>6790012
imagine actually COUNTING ribs. Do you also count the discs in spine or all the little bones in feet?
>>6789997
thx
>>6789990
would work well as a logo or tattoo on some dumb woman. thumbs up
>>6789925
cute loli
>>6789842
sir, this is beg. if i see something wrong with a study i will say it. you dont need to be master cook yourself to point out oversalted soup. The face is cute, but flattened to the extreme due to wrong / missing shading and or contours, mostly around nose. It is almost like anime like, but in an uncanny way since it retained some real life face properties.

>>6790482
Thoughts about your own drawing? >>6789852

Almost didn't draw today. no ref, just doodling.

>>6790482
What book are you going to do after this one?

>>6790347
I don't mean to be rude if you didn't intend it but many of these heads are fucking fantastically hilarious like above average caricature portraits.

>>6790491
Not horrible for your level of construction and anatomy understanding, but I can't let this go. What in the actual fuck is this

>>6790482
you need help, like serious help pawell.

>>6790322
When have you ever drawn a damn man on here?

I guess this isn't particularly interesting, but I've been going back to basics to brush up pn my very core fundamentals. Practicing freehanding basic shapes right now. I always want to rush to the sexy, fun things like figure drawing or coming up with weird creatures, but they're not successful because my construction is bad and my construction is bad because my 3D shapes are no good and my 3D shapes are no good because my basic shapes and lines are so weak. There's also something meditative about cutting the number of things you need to juggle down to just line shape and control of your pencil.

>>6790499
An attempt was made.

>>6790073
sick.
>>6790173
still leagues better than i could do. I think you'd need to lower her non-hook arm a little to place the hook arm comfortably insider her elbow, but I'm barely qualified to even post here so,,
>>6790233
lie the other anon said, it feels a bit static. id get them being cold and having a stiffer pose, but even so, you can give that "stiffness" more character, as opposed to just general stiffness.
>>6790286
love this! especially love the depth in the roots.
>>6790427
love the playful energy your drawings give off :')
>>6790491
Excellent doodles! good that you drew something today, and it looks like youre doing well

Here's where I'm at. about as /beg/ as it gets.

feel free to offer suggestions, but i know ive got a lot of improvement to make..

>>6790511
All the time. Most are in red pencil, though. Bald men in fighting poses.

>>6790536
my advice for you is to learn to draw basic forms cleanly, and accurately. Keep your lines clean, and your conception of the forms clear.

What I would do, in your situation, is study either the Vilppu drawing manual or Michael Hampton's figure drawing book. They both teach the same thing. Go through the exercises slowly and diligently, skipping over nothing. The mannequin figure I demonstrated on the right should be the bulk of your practice, going from gesture to structure, over and over and over again. Draw from both reference and imagination, and you should see great improvements.

After several months of this, pick up Bridgman and start copying your favorite artists

>>6790527
he needs more morpho

>>6790526
Same ish. Trying to get those boxes and circles shit. Fucking monotonous. Do you do music or podcasts or what when you're grinding fundies?

>>6790536
yeeeaaah but I was thinking about giving up.

>>6790482
Hilarious that you say tattoo on dumb woman because I made it for my sister lmao, I appreciate the thumbs up though

>>6790559
Depends, if I'm feeling focused I won't listen to anything but if my mind is elsewhere or there are distractions I'll throw on something ambient or orchestral that's just enough to get the part of my mind that wanders to stay in one place. I can't do podcasts or music with vocals, they occupy too much of my focus and I end up robotically doing the exercises without actually thinking about what I'm doing. Maybe one day when day when I do them to maintain rather than build muscle memory I can split my focus more, but or now I want to get the most out of them.

>>6790265
Yup I was the one doing the tree of life. First rough draft didn’t go too well so I’m happy how this one turned out. Thanks for the critique and kind words!

>>6790272
one arm (forearm looks too long, elbow needs more to it, needs some sort of indiction of transition from wrist to hand),
hand is missing thumb (or some indication she has one), and
feet just need more practice (I hate feet).

Some issues could be fixed with shading (imo), but idk if you are that far along (and I dont think you should rush in like some sort of shading cowboy). Face, titties and tummy (the torso generally) are nice.

Maybe some better indication of the midsection (abs, obliques) might also help. Idk what your reference looks like so maybe that's just how her tummy looks.

>>6790550

thank you for the feedback! i agree, and i feel like i could do with placing considerably less lines altogether.. i picked up the hampton book a couple days ago, and have been reading over the first sections, digesting as much as i can. i’m still trying to get a better grasp of 3D space on a 2D medium, so i’ve been really trying to simplify what i’m drawing as just basic shapes in 3D space. also really trying to work out the size relationships of the different parts of the body, and the books by taco1704 have been helpful by breaking it down with a lot of illustrations, but i feel like just with more practice, it’ll start looking closer to what i envision, because despite it being incredibly amateur, i feel like i’m at least on the right path.

again thanks (:

>>6790527
Just look at your arm in that position in the mirror fading out in the forearm is fine for these types of gestures/construction drawings. I want you to feel the elbow, the wiggly elb bends like a bow , it donut fold flop like a cat board box. Think ohhhhhh like a long ellipse.
>I'm beg too someone redline my redline kek, but i hope you catchy drify

>>6790585
no prob, sorry if i came across harsh, you'll done fine :)

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>>6790499
lord have mercy

>>6790596
>tried Loomis to learn anime
>This is my goku
Idk anon, help me

>>6790596
What you're too good to answer me, huh? Is this not pretty enough for you, anon?

>>6789362
something like this

which vilppu videos am i supposed to watch and follow? there's like a 100 million billion
thanks

Created a rough sketch of an evil wizard. Thoughts?

Can I just keep going or will I get burnt out?

>copied Bridgman in a few months
>grinded all of Perspective Made Easy in one day in addition to a short course on perspective for animation layouts
>completed sketches for my first commission
> Planning to start Loomis and my second pass through Bridgman tomorrow

>>6790705
>Can I just keep going or will I get burnt out?
only you can answer that question. I'd take some time (like a week or two) to deliberately put what you've learned to use in your own work to let it sink in and integrate fully before adding more new stuff on top. But you sound like a monster, so who knows? Maybe you can just keep going and pierce the heavens.

>>6790494
Of course I didn't intend it that's why I'm doing this challenge in the first place

I didn't like how this one turned out specifically but I was way too lazy to try and do something bout it at that point

I'm trying to search for artbooks to learn from. However all the art looks underwhelming. Surely I don't want to learn from people who's art I find unappealing.

Woo! Fast shitty gestures from imagination time! Maybe I should’ve done some from reference first lol. That would have definitely been a good idea. But I’m too sleepy.
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Good job. You guys inspired me to try stuff from imagination. It’s been a while.
>>6790173
Lol not bad, you’re well on your way. Proportions and stuff are a bit rough, but your overall trajectory is staggering. Excellent job, anon.
>>6790073
That looks cool. There’s something off about the connection from her left (our right) hip and thigh to her pelvis. Like the leg is down too far or the crotch is up too high, or the leg attaches too for out off to the side of her hip, or there’s not enough ass to hold the leg on or something. Maybe moving her pubic bone/pussy/crotch/mons over further to the left a touch would help? I dunno. It might honestly just be a stylization thing I’m too /beg/ to understand.
>>6789628
Cute. The perspective of her nose/nostrils (and mouth slightly) is a little too shallow and doesn’t match the rest of her face. Compare the angle of the two dots of her nostrils to the angle of the nostrils in the ref. I think also you should try moving her nose (and mouth slightly) a little towards her right cheek (on our left). I think those minor tweaks will help give her face more dimension. Good job, very appealing and much better than my heads!

>>6790876
Lol forgot pic. Like I said, sleepy.

Coming back to art after a year. Holy shit my heads are so bad, particularly the eyes. Does anyone have recommendations for drills or tutorials for doing eyes and faces at different angles?

>>6790869
They are for learning and practice, not visual appeal. You gotta get the basics down first before you can make anything worthwhile. Like a musician grinding scales or a sportsman doing drills.

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new edition
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>>6790758
Thanks anon! I’ll take your suggestion. I’m going away for something family related soon and will bring a sketchbook to draw from life there, trying to digest and incorporate all of that knowledge into those drawings.
>monster
the power of being a NEET after trying to create original art over the past year without knowing the basics at the same time as managing other commitments. Being able to invest in studying feels therapeutic after groping in the dark and crossing lines that either mysteriously work or don’t work for a year

>>6790573
I can get down wot that. Sometimes I focus better when hyper stimulated other times I like complete silence. Definitely like to laugh so the boys cast, bad friends or yours moms house podcasts are usually on.