/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6787664
ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCGBm0vApV4&list=PLOu677ln8nvfFlZFmPcessJR59LaN20tJ&index=14

>>6787727
more

I'd love to share but I'm just going to keep posting my beg shit in the /beg/ thread instead mr tableguy looking gesture posting man.

>>6788104
also I'm extremely jealous of your gestures mr tableguy

Refs: friesellfly on DeviantArt

how do you find standing eye level references

>>6787664
nice gestures tabledad

from the other thread, guess I should post here from now on

My crappy torso studies.

>>6788501
more

/beg/ reporting for duty

Nice figgies everyone. This is currently the most productive thread on /ic/

I got bored with 57-60, they repeated the same pose 8 times from only slightly different angles. I was about to blow my fucking brains out. Also, i was coping too literally from the reference today. Everything is kind of stiff.

>>6789204
>>6788104
You are only /beg/ if you believe you are beg. Or if /ic/ tells you to go post in beg.

But all figures are welcome here.

>>6788445
What? Isn’t that jsut all references? Usually they jsut take a photo holding a camera which is at eye level..

2 minute figures
ref: ArtModels10

Reference thread in case anyone missed it:
>>6788152

>>6789334
5 minute ones

>>6789300
Your shapes are very appealing, Tableguy. What was rough about 57-60? they look clean to me.

Tried a few things different on these 4, felt so awkward to start, but started to feel a little better on the last one, but I'll prolly go back to my normal rough-in pencil, but might keep using the blue for the basic gesture/proportions.

>>6787727
>>6787765
>>6789334
>>6789384
Prolific! I'd say working on proportions would be a good exercise. Maybe a 1/4 of the figures have slightly stumpy legs.

>>6788501
>>6788541
Nice contrast between masculine/feminine forms

>>6788540
Keep it up!

>>6787664
>>6789300
Quality and quantity! It's cool to see your lines loosen up as the numbers go up

2 min gestures

>>6790273
Thanks.
>I'd say working on proportions would be a good exercise. Maybe a 1/4 of the figures have slightly stumpy legs.
Yeah I see what you're talking about.

1 minute figures, trying to keep proportions in mind.
Also experimenting with brushes.

>>6791212
more, 2 mins each

>>6787664
Where are you getting the figures from?

>>6792519
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en
https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/timed
https://pose-trainer.com/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing

I really need to start drawing from reference more

>>6789300
96/300 i spent to long on the faces. I need to pick up the pace.

>>6790243
Superpose spams the same pose like 8 times with very slight rotations. It’s so annoying.

>>6792788
i hate these sites. I have this giant rant about how horrible they are. Bad lighting. Bald dudes. Just the tops of bald dudes heads. Grannies with saggy tits. Shy asian guys in the dark. Stiff jumping poses. Literally the worst places to get references and do figure drawing

ADDING TO THAT LIST -> THE FUCKING SUPERPOSE BOOKS BLOW FUCKING ASS!! Japanese women with no definition, just blobs of fat and no muscle. Horrible lighting, no visible forms. Super stiff poses. Bad proportions. Flat faces. No places of the face to learn anything from. Just as bad as line of action / quick poses. I will not draw from that book again. I made it to 80 figures and wanted to blow my brains out.

>>6789334
Use the reference thread >>6788152 really great stuff. Croquis videos or gesdraws videos for timed stuff.

>>6792853
Dude same
My autistic head has forced me to stay as far away from 3DPD as I can and draw everything from imagination for years.
No wonder I can only draw easy poses with low foreshortening.

>>6792949
>SUPERPOSE BOOKS BLOW FUCKING ASS!!
Agreed. It's a common excuse but good reference is kinda rare.

Today's warmup. 2 minutes each.

>>6793024
more, 5 mins each

>>6792788
Pose Trainer is the only worthwhile one.

Done across the weekend

>>6793196
Cool shapes. I can't figure out who you studied tho.

>>6793617
Honestly I've not done any dedicated study, I'm only just starting to take the learning side of drawing seriously after years of just directionless sketching.
At the moment it's just a jumble of things I've picked up from various sources - Proko, Hampton, taking style cues from comic book artists, etc.

A link from the ref thread
https://scottbreton.art/female-nude-cross-contour/nkih380j0q5kxqpjmzlwwsrkadtppq

>>6792949
105/300 I was busy all night cooking short rib ragu. So i guess 50 figures tomorrow???

>>6794679
I like your style bro

>>6793196
Where are their legs WHY DID YOU CUT OFF THE BEST PART

>>6793117
I need to start setting a timer, i have no discipline and these are taking too long

2 mins each

>>6794756
>I need to start setting a timer
Yeah, I use the GestureDrawing! application for it.

>>6794823
5mins

1 minute figures feels like drowning

>>6795191
5 minute ones

>>6794756
Thanks! I too need to get faster.

>>6795191
yeah, 1 min is only enough time for gesture

2mins

2 minute ones

>>6788445
croquis cafe website lets you sort by different perspectives

>>6796577
5 mins each. refs from grafit

I want to fix my jank, lets see what kinda progress I can make with 100 figures

>>6796826
I did more but I'm only counting this as two, at best

>>6794756
128/300
I tried to keep things at like 5 minutes. It worked for maybe 3 pages, but then i derailed into dicking around

>>6798349
Can you drop everything you have going on in life and instead focus all of your waking hours on teaching me how to draw exactly like you do?

drunk friend

>>6798349
mm frog pusy

2 mins
refs from proko

>>6797997
Stop chicken scratching, anon. Strong confident lines.

>>6798464
I'll try on my next batch, thanks

warmups

>>6798397
best ref. you're gmi anon

>>6798349
so quick dude, good job on the pumping these out. I need to hurry up

some more, bonus little render

>>6798925

>>6798925
>>6799052
Blog?

>>6799066
none, just post here for fun

>>6787664
Tableguy, can you share your construction process?

>>6799102
Alright man, I like your stuff keep up the good work

>>6798796
today's figs

30 second poses

>>6799543
1 minute poses

I'm very rusty I haven't done figure drawing in possibly a year now

>>6798349
146/300 i should have done another page to get an even 150 but my collaging autism prevents me from doing non powers of 2

>>6798398
I bet she has a nice tongue

>>6798925
I’m not fast enough. I keep derailing and spending over 5 minutes on a pose. I started doing 1 song per pose, but even so, I’m like “this song was almost over, I’ll stop at the end of the next one”

>>6798393
It’s just figure drawing. Nothing creative or original being done here. I keep 2 mantras in mind when i do studies.
1) draw what you see not what you know - copy the negative spaces, check all the proportions. Don’t get hung up on the anatomy under the hood. Just focus on the shapes interacting.
2) Draw what you WANT to see not what you see - the reference may not be readable or might not be something you can draw so draw what you would want to be there.
Number 1 is pretty easy, I just discovered Number 2 recently. Someone told me that is what vilppu teaches. I wouldnt know. I never watched any of his videos after wanting to rage quit when i saw him figure drawing.

>>6799120
I use minimal construction when i do studies. I’m almost like a printer now and i go from head to toe. I start with bangs now in the front where the hair parts. Then put in a couple landmarks for the shoulders, then the boobs, then a marker for where the crotch goes. Then i go back around and place vague scribbles where hands, feet or body parts are interacting or crossing over. All the lines i use are in the drawings if you look, i havent been erasing much recently. I can do more tightly timed drawings tomorrow. I have always heard that your 30s drawing is the base for your 1 min which is the base for your 2 min etc etc. So in a way that is kind of like construction

>>6793196
Lively

1 minutes and 2 minutes
refs >>6799900

Yes can I get some thorough anatomy videos, I didn't want to start a new thread just to ask, I'm told I ought to practice before going to in person classes so I already know something.

>>6800093
5 mins and a 10

>>6797997
I used quickposes for the first time

I forgot how difficult it is working against a timer. A few of these weren't timed.

Found another pose ref thread in /hr/ >>4707932


>>6800008
Your line weight always looks really nice. Maybe I'll just do some studies of your shapes cause they are great. I tried your "printer" method and my brain didn't like it, lol.

>>6799052
fun style

>>6800128
The amount of poses you get through is impressive

>>6799358
These look nice

>>6800382
Keep it up!

>>6799545
Shapes look nice, esp. on the 5th one over on top

>>6800635
>>>/hr/4707932

might as well post my beg gestures here

My attempt at real photo studying, I rarely do these since most of my attempts aren't as good as my studying other artists stuff. I'll try to do them more

>>6800008
Not those anons but I'm confused on what you said on step 2. Doesn't it kind of contradict step 1 of your mantra? and also did you figure out your figure studies on your own way? Or is it a mix of what you learned? Sorry if my questions are stupid. I wish my figures were half as fluid and loose as yours

1, 2 and 5 minutes figures

refs
>>6799900
>>6801382
>>6801403

>>6801841
10 mins each

These were tough today, but got through them at least.

>>6800008
>>6800635
>>6801841
How do yall get this good photo quality when taking pictures?

Whenever I take a picture of my drawings I have shit lighting.

>>6802862
I turn off my desk lamp, then hold the phone higher, then click the 2x zoom. Less chance of shadows/uneven lighting.
It's not the best but it works
I think Tableguy uses a scanner, and I'm pretty sure the other example you linked is digital.

>>6802832
wow! Love the faces. They're cute

How do I start with stylizing figures? The very concept just feels alien to me.

>>6788280

>>6802956
Find an artist you like, copy how they draw anatomy and what lines they do, do this with multiple artists

>>6800008
5 min poses is still pretty fast
>>6800635
thanks
>>6802832
nice values

>>6802862
Last one is mine, yeah its digital.

>>6802956
Exaggerating certain proportions is probably the easiest place to start.

>>6800008
I tried to time myself today to make sure i didnt go past 5 minutes. My nominal timing is like 7-10min. I got stuck on one those and it was 12 minutes of misery.

>>6801320
Yeah it’s a contradiction. Like at first you try to draw what you know or what you think you know but you’re not ready for it. So it’s better to jsut draw what you see. But as you progress through your journey you very sparingly draw what you want to see. Then at some level of mastery you jsut draw waht you want all the time because you know how to make it look good.

>>6799120
151-153 and 155-157 i redrew the same pose in 1min, 2 min, and 5 min intervals so you can see how it progresses. I would say there is actually a sweet spot at like 4min when its pretty much all there, then i spend a minute scribbling pencil everywhere to add values


>>6802862
I use a scanner

today's warmup of 2 minute each figures
back to NMA for ref

>>6803697
5mins

>>6800382
3 minutes
quickposes are wack, I'm gonna use that /hr/ thread next time

>>6800635
thanks, trying

>>6800937
bending over gestures are impossible

>>6803209
those simple shapes are so good anon why dont you have a blog ARHHH

These felt okay today

>>6806204
cute boxes

>>6803568
Did some fashion lineups from a discord collection

>>6804633
>>6807324
do you like undersketch then line on top?

>>6803828
Quick poses is shit

>>6807336
These are great! I've been looking for some fashion refs to fill up my cloth sketchbook. (pic rel) Does that reference pack still exist somewhere?

160's gift to 161 made me laugh. I dig the way you draw tiddies, and the different personalities work well on the 4th page.

>do you like undersketch then line on top?
For this thread I've been using a blue pencil to do the rough ins, helps me with proportions. Then I go over with with a regular pencil.

>>6807423

>>6787664
How can I do better? It's been years.

>>6807513
use ref

>>6807336
>Quick poses is shit
so I heard, but it's so often referenced I thought I'd give it a shot
love your outfits by the way, I'd totally wear 186

>>6808303
it's posted a lot as a starter guide. The only problem with it is the limited pool of reference images. The best thing is to get your own images. quickposes has a desktop app that lets you see random images

>>6808581
my biggest issues were image resolution and bad lighting
>desktop app that lets you see random images
I'm using mpv with shuffle and image-display-duration
I didn't feel like downloading a whole new software app to show random images for some minutes at a time

Hump Day is for fig studs.

>>6807513
Fundies. Learning how to break the elements into simple 3D forms. Or do a shit-load more than one per study.

im studying the fat today

>>6809117
Uoooh.

>>6809117
based Core shadow chad. How can modelling tone cucks ever recover?

Oh, another one of this threads
On one hand, I fucking hate tableguy's threads where it's just a promo for his stuff and he does this blatantly, +some engagement
It's a trend that you can find on twitter, discord, instagram
>Here's my art. Also, what do you guys think about X? Let's do X.
And then everyone starts posting X, but the guy really doesn't care about your X, it's just added pole, for the spearhead of his work.
This encourages avatarfagging and I fucking hate guts internet personalities, and I sure as fucking hell don't want to see them on fucking 4chan of all places, as this goes against the core system of this place
On the other hand, people do catch up on the threads and draw more, and that's a good thing
But definitely not worth it, in my opinion.
I rather have low engagement and less shills, than more shills and more engagement. I have discord, twitter, instagram, reddit for that.

>>6809117
Neato. It reminds me of Man Ray.

>>6809117
Impressive! Nice linework, and the shading looks amazing.

>>6810025
Less rants, more figures

>>6809117
Damn nice job. How long you been in the game?

some 1 min sketches. I wasn't able to do more
any figure advice? should i be using a different brush? a lot of the poses here use a brush thats good for line and shadows but i dont know what that is?
any advice appreciated

>>6809117
Based. Where do you find references btw? I'm in need of fat figures.

>>6810708
Looks decent to me, why weren't able to do more? Might want to try doing some different timers. I think the typical is like 30sec, 1min, 3min, 5min, 10min. You learn different things for each timer.

>>6803828

I drew a bunch of circles, improvised the limbs, then went back with a mechanical pencil to make them look more legible.

>bodiesinmotion.photo gifs 2023-08-23.zip (785 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/dd32ktlsz7jvnk9/

>7GIF
https://www.xtreme-lab.net/7gif/en/index.html

>>6810025
Idk how someone can type out this much and not see they're part of the problem.

>>6810025
You are not really wrong

>>6810984
switched things up and went with simple 3D forms. Never drew a hemisphere from the bottom it seems.

>>6811735
Good amount!

>>6811740
Nice exercise, I need to get better at drawing from imagination.

>>6811759
Just found out about bodiesinmotion from one of Hampton's youtube videos.

>>6787664
hey, are you that anon that drew figures with a pokemon mixed theme?

New NMA figure reference session
https://youtu.be/tVV7jW0Oe5k?t=347

>>6811847
More practice, now with 100% more green pencil!

>>6814729
Nice, the proportions are looking better to my eyes. Didn't realize NMA had a youtube channel, that's pretty neat.

>>6814729
neat poses
>>6810166
thank you. if you mean for how long i've been drawing, about 7 1/2 years.
>>6810714
i got it form here: pornpics com/galleries/chubby-mature-amateur-sweet-susi-takes-a-shower-out-on-the-back-lawn-49872391/
i wouldn't recommend getting refs from there if you need to quickly find well-described shadow shapes unless you can stomach going thru a lot of galleries because most of the porn pics use diffused frontal light which kills 90% of the nuance of any form

>>6815619
Many thanks!

>>6788540

>>6809117
>>6815619
great form modeling
>>6805154
thanks! I'm just lazy

>>6815619
How do you draw with godly brush economy and blending like this?? Please help I'm a terminal renderlet

>>6814729
what brushes are you using? they look so nice

>>6817485
the charcoal brushes from Lane's Photoshop Master Pack. >>6808259

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1NtFNtnbwM

>>6787664
I took a break and I’m very rusty
I hope gesture drawings are allowed

>>6818879

>>6818881

>>6817556
which specific brush are you using

>>6818894
First I sketch with Smooth Pencil, then I increase the brush size and block in the shadow. Then to turn the form, I use the Grainy Soften smudge brush. For the longer figures, I use Charcoal Pencil for the darker lines and the core shadow. Then I lower the flow to render the more subtle stuff. Also sometimes erasing with the same brush (hold the ` key).

His videos have a lot of good tips too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yVhHYO47V8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE5BQxTvNME

>>6817461
in general it's about draftmanship and control over the tools you use. i've only used the soft round brush for pic related having both opacity, density and also size set to pressure so i have the most amount of control of the lines i put down. more concretely for brush economy and blending: it's all built up, you can see in the 1st step after the lines that the core shadow varies in size and darkness, that doesnt happen in one single stroke, instead i build it up changing the brush size and pressing accordingly to best describe de core shadow, same with the area in shadow and the lit area with the mid tones, it's all built up to describe the form being affected by light and throught the control you have over your tool and with enough practice you can achieve pretty nice results, keep at it
>>6817242
thank you! i remember you! your figs remind me i need to get better and drawing hands and feet, they're pretty good.

>>6820680
oh nice, thanks for sharing

>>6818879
All types of figures so far in this thread

>>6789300
god damn i wish my figures could look as good as yours

>>6820919
wtf??? the face

>>6787664
table guy for sure the best artist on the board at this point

>>6811735
took a break
some of these have a weird aura

Random athletes on Pinterest.

>>6822079
Which face? Are you saying it's no good, or are you saying it's "wtf" personified?

>>6823100
These are quite interesting, but they do creep me out a little.

not really timing anything, just doodling

>>6823170
thanks, I think it's the fucked up proportions and empty eyes

>>6809117
three is that you my boy

>Reference! Reference! (referencereference.com).zip (737 MB)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/75jel951qk1xv39/

How is my anatomy? Is there anything I can work on appeal wise? Feels like I sometimes slip into making things too bony and tendon-y and it comes off as grotesque on a female body

>>6823854
Stiff shoulders syndrome.
If you're going for realism your proportions look cartoony.

>>6823895
>shoulders
Yeah I need to properly study shoulder anatomy, that whole area is just pissing in the dark for me mostly.
>If you're going for realism
No, not really I'm just still in recovery after atelier brainrot. How could the proportions be more appealing though? I think the arms are short-ish but I'm not sure.

My endgame is definitely stylization though but I'm in some awkward fencesitting phase atm

>>6823907
>How could the proportions be more appealing though?
That's presonal taste so I wouldn't know sorry
You calves and forearms are thicker than normal.
Personally I like it, nice and stocky.
Your backs need a bit more fat to them, it might work on males but females are more flowy imo
But again this might be taste.
Overall love your expressive linework.
Jelly asf.
Keep at it
Any tips how you got top where you are?

>>6823927
Thanks a lot Anon, I'll take that into consideration since I agree with most of that. The leg on the drawing you redlined reads especially better that way. Just undecided on backs since I haven't studied them enough to have any particular taste on the matter.
>Any tips how you got top where you are?
I've honestly done a lot of things and fallen into all kinds of drills and routines but over the last few years but it almost always comes down to:
1. Study from reference
2. Apply to imaginative work (alternatively, redraw from memory if you find yourself struggling)

Like for example when I get home from life drawing I always try to draw at least some of the poses from memory, or just use anatomy/light I've observed in imaginative stuff.

This is obviously not necessary to do but I really enjoy drawing from imagination. Also comes at the cost of my finished work being pretty bad since I don't have much experience with finishing stuff or rendering anything but plaster casts and figures in greyscale.

You should probably check silverstar1243 on instagram out, her sketches are god tier.

where can I find a fuck ton of nude action/fighting poses, anons?

>>6787727
whoa fast at first but then too slow

Mostly refd from various imagefap galleries of this one lady:
https://www.imagefap.com/pictures/11221740/Milena%20Milyaeva%20(lyubovvomne)%20-%20Mila%20A%20-%20Waking%20Dream

>>6809117
Really lovely

>>6824897
Big fan of ur shapes. Motivates me to make more confident shape decisions.

>>6825082
Had a go with this timed fig drawing video >>6787727

>>6820680
Thank you very much for the tutorial anon, saved. I looked into my brush settings and I forgot to rely more on pressure set to flow more than opacity to make it easier to build up my strokes. I loved your terminators so I tried emulating them. Forgot to save the preset for picrel though and didn't realize so it's still splotchy here

>>6825161
Not that anon but try to be more specific about your volumes and remember that the core shadows tend to fan out when the form widens

>>6825196
Oops, posted a mirrored version.

>>6787727
The legs I drew on the 10 min one make me wanna puke :D

>>6825381

>>6823100
waoaoaoao

I realised figure drawing is a bit overwhelming for me. So Ill do simple poses and try to progress.

>>6827602
Another page from last night.

>>6793196
Finally getting some more done - this time no legs excluded

>>6825643
I don't think grinding figures at your level will really help, bro.
I'd say read some books, Loomis, Hampton, Huston, Vilppu.

>>6828912
Thanks, been thinking the same, but I want to get to 100 anyways.
I've read Vilppu and Loomis, the later I use as a reference a lot.
I just started Bridgman (with Marshall Vandruff's videos) and I don't like switching horses mid-stream, but I've been wondering if I'd be better off doing Huston first, since a lot of skilled /beg/s refer to him.

Hey guys. I'm sorry if this is a stupid question
But is gesture really THAT important?

I've been working through hampton and doing his gesture is really busting my balls.
I just want to start grinding figures already

Maybe I'm too stupid for gesture but how is it going to help me draw complete figures?
I know it helps with breaking out of stiff poses and portraying movement and all of that.

Do I have to actually stick through it or is there a different book that doesn't involve gesture? because I might be a tad too stupid for that

I figure you guys would be the right people to ask.

>>6828810
Really like the ones on the bottom there. Very confident strokes and great gestures.

>>6829322
>I know it helps with breaking out of stiff poses and portraying movement and all of that.
That's really all I use it for. The elbow/chin/eye lines all really helped, but that's really all I got from it

How to rotate torso?

why does nobody in this thread use construction??

>>6825204
This is valuable crit, thank you. The light side was the opposite but I really like how you did the masses of the humerus, delt and triceps. I haven't taken enough creative liberty with my shadow shapes.

>>6789334
these are so cute, would you mind uploading that fashion collection somewhere? I'm assuming it isn't too loaded since it's from discord.
I also missed out on a few cool looking reference packs in the mediafire links from the previous reference thread, the nma torrents are too massive for my pc so anything else helps immensely

>>6831561
these are so cute, would you mind uploading that fashion collection somewhere? I'm assuming it isn't too loaded since it's from discord.
I also missed out on a few cool looking reference packs in the mediafire links from the previous reference thread, the nma torrents are too massive for my pc so anything else helps immensely

>>6831561
meant to reply to >>6807336 oopsss

>>6830852
Just because (You) can't see it, doesn't mean it's not there.

>>6830852
I do but nobody cares.

>>6829322
Maybe you should just take some time to learn more about anatomy before tackling gesture, because right now your gestures aren't really capturing the angle at which the figures are at.

Once you learn to draw the human body a bit more then I think it will help you greatly with your gestures.

>>6793196
How do I learn to draw like this?

>>6830852
>literally every image has construction
>nobody use construction
Why did he mean by this?

>>6789300
What reference are you using if don’t mind sharing?

Does anybody have any good reference sheets for abs, and also obliques and serratus?
Both male or female is good

>>6832600
pens sounded fun today. That first one has chimpanzee arms, but whatever ¯¯\__(ツ)__/¯¯

>>6823170
looks like disney teenage hercules

>>6832791
very kino anon, you have socials?

More

>>6833480

I did these in less than 2 mins, which looks best and which don’t look so good?

>>6810708
some more
how do i escape begism

>>6835195
I think you need to stop this quick study shit and apply yourself more because you can easily end up staying at this skill level for years with this kind of mental masturbation. What youre doing right now is largely useless and mindless. If its fun then go for it. But if you want to get better it will take some brain power. Pick one to three poses and repeat them over and over till they look somewhat okay. Take some time but dont spend ages on it, one hour max. Trust me its so much more satisfying. GL

>>6835295
Thank you for the wake up advice. Of course I'd like to get better. I'll follow what you said and try post some more results. When you mean repeat the pose do you mean in all fields? (silhouette, gesture, anatomy, form, shadow, line, etc etc) or should I specify into one field more than the other? Sorry if the question is a little dumb

>>6835317
Line and gesture arent something to practice in isolation ever in my opinion. You pracitce that stuff passively no matter what you draw. Find drawings you like and try to be like that using your own brain. All the bs online course exercises dont work and are made to make students feel like they are getting better, but they are at the EXACT. SAME. SKILL. LEVEL. Good luck and have fun, seriously.

>>6832791
dusted off the ol' surface go and went with some digital figs today

>>6832907
I can go the distance!

>>6832921
Thanks, no socials at the moment. Maybe when I get better.

>>6833480
>>6834755
Great as always, do you ever do any work with harder lines? The shading always looks great, just wondering what your next steps look like.

>>6834919
take your time, it's not a race.

>>6835195
Kinda depends on your goal. Try setting some attainable goals.

Another NMA figure drawing video. Same model as the last one. Longer session tho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXXad-Iauzw

>>6835485
>Great as always, do you ever do any work with harder lines?
Thanks, you can see some longer ones in this one. But still not enough time for the Huston style charcoal rendering I'm going for. Hopefully I can get a bit quicker and fully render them like in these studies I did. >>6806863 Although copying a drawing is a lot easier.
Your faces are really cute and the expressions are great. Also love the stylized anatomy.

If it's a wrong thread and I should ask in /beg/ or something instead, just ignore me.
Whenever I try to do quick pose/gesture practice, I tend to look up (from the tablet) and down (to the tablet) several times within each minute - I do 60 seconds instead of 30. It makes me sick quickly. Sometimes it passes, sometimes it gets to the point I think I'm going to vomit and I have to stop. Any idea what I could be doing to circumvent that?

>>6836137
Get the ref on the same screen to minimize the distance you have to move your eyes to get to it

>>6835195
>>6835295
>>6835380
>>6835485
ive tried incorporating the advice of going a step further and really looking at the figure till they look somewhat okay. heres one figure of such, am i going more towards the right track doing figures like this?
i also tried to follow the advice of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOOzFxYiMHY&pp=ygUSaWFuIHJvYmVydHMgZmlndXJl

Also critique on the figure would be appreciated.

>>6810025
Funny how these kinds of posts are never accompanied by artwork

>>6836356
small update but gonna leave it now

>>6836428
Amazing arm but a horrible head.

>>6836468
thank you!
can you be a bit more specific about the faults of the head? I particularly struggle with the head/face/hair

>>6836478
Proportions and the hair mostly.

>>6835485
>take your time, it's not a race.
But which look the best to you? That doesn't answer my question

>>6836428
Looks like you're trying to fit the whole face into a circle. Practicing basic head shapes would probably be a good exercise for you.

>>6836574
top right since it has an amount of perspective in it with the arms, but I think you need to start with some basic stuff before tackling figures

Thoughts on Eviston's new figure drawing video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCQvWBRIBFg

>>6837551
some longer ones

>>6835485
stuff from yesterday and today

>>6836098
>>6837551
>>6837686
Those Huston copies look awesome, very nice style to aim for. I think my eyes just search for those little accents of dark/sharp lines that solidify the figure. I'm jelly of the quantity of figs you get through in your sessions. very nice anon.

>>6836618
seems like decent advice. I think the most important thing is finding a technique that works best for you.

>>6837924
another one, i have big issues with legs, i think im finding it harder to look at them in 3D than i find the torso and arms. Any tips?
>>6836589
thank you! i ll take that advice to heart.

>>6837924
back to pencil

>>6839284
Depends on what your end goal is. Stylized, realistic, cartoony, etc. For legs I usually think of them as tapered tubes. A little bit of anatomy knowledge will also go a long way. A few key muscles and their insertion points is usually enough to get an idea of the masses. If I'm stuck on a certain body part, I'll usually just grind out a bunch of those parts in isolation. Iteration is also a good way to get better at something like the other anon said. draw it once, find what's wrong, don't fix the one you just did, do another one to the side. Do that till it looks decent. Keep it up!

1hr session
Another figure ref thread: >>6833182

>>6837924
Thanks.
>quantity of figs you get through in your sessions
coffee and music helps a lot

Do you guys think there's a huge difference working from photos vs life?

Also, do you ever do figures from imagination, to test what you learned?

>>6839955
switched to huion tablet

>>6841836
I haven't done very much live figure drawing, I'm sure there are differences, but one isn't going to be a magic pill that helps you get better faster imo.
I try to do stuff from imagination to help with shape retention.

>>6842299

Really nice work everyone!

How do you stop putting so much value in your drawings? Like when I try to draw I tend to get discouraged if I don't perform as good as I think I should.
How do you incorporate this sort of practice into the finished work? Like what is the balance between your original works, and life drawing?

>>6798349
>>6798349

what courses / books helped you the most to do these quick sketches? They feel good.

>>6798397
Love it

>>6798925
Clean and cool. Please do make a blog anon

You guys ahve been busy. Lots of great figgies. Good to see people drawing.

>>6807336
190/300 It’s been like a month… where has teh time gone.

>>6831561
It’s just a few drawings from some artist. I’ll drop them in a sec

>>6832700
Super pose book, i dont recommend it. Really bad lighting, bad proportions, bad face planes, and super boring poses. The pose packs floating around ic are far superior. Get the one with the blonde samus looking girl.

>>6841836
> Do you guys think there's a huge difference working from photos vs life?
It’s huge, it’s insane. Life drawing is like 100x difficulty of photos. There is no framing, no cropping, potentially poor lighting, singular viewing angle. Drawing from life is hard mode. You have to make the best with what you are served. I have this story of going to these 3hr live figure drawing classes and I was easily the worst person there. Like permabeg tier drawing level by comparison. Everyone in that class was like 50+ yr old vilppus. I would turn over my drawings during the breaks out of embarrassment. They had been going to the same live figure class every week for 30 years.

> Also, do you ever do figures from imagination, to test what you learned?
In my opinion this is also an entirely different skill set. It’s like posing a doll. I end up having to use construction and build the figure. When i do figure drawings from reference i just kind of start at the head and go down. But from imagination is like exercising a different part of the brain. The references help make you less afraid of tackling a hard angle because you know you have done it before. Thats pretty much it.

>>6843890
All drawings are worthless, thats why they are made on cheap copy paper. Just finish it so you can move on. Ive been stuck in sketch hell for a year. It feels bad. I am going to try to make more finished pieces for the rest of the year.

>>6843943
I have never taken any courses or read any books. I just draw

Recently started drawing as a hobby. This drawing was kinda slow and took about 10 mins.

need to try blocking things out more

>>6844275
Good to see your figs again, tg. This thread has really helped me keep up on my daily drawing.

>>6844486
you picked a pretty tough pose to start on. Hope you're enjoying your new hobby.

>>6845498
looking pretty good. It's helpful to draw out the body parts as simple 3D shape to get a sense of the forms.

>>6845515
>It's helpful to draw out the body parts as simple 3D shape to get a sense of the forms
yes

how do I achieve tableguy gesturing
it's so pleasing to look at

>>6845515

>>6807336
>>6844275
pleeease drop the fashion collection pics or wherever you got them from if you can. the outfits are so cute and the girls are gorgeous.

>>6847270
Ah i forgot, here is the twitter https://twitter.com/gojio_ It was from a discord event where we were doing studies of the clothing. I’ll drop a few

>>6847284
I like this one - goth girls are hot

>>6847286

>>6847288

>>6847290

>>6847293

>>6847293
so sad about how these girls got their middle and ring fingers superglued together wishing them the best xoxo

>>6847296

using the boxes to break down the figures has been helpful but i want to be able to do cleaner lines
>>6847172
i like the pose of the sword lady on the bottom..

>>6847172
some more. I've never used the contour brush before. Really fun, felt my brain thinking about the shapes differently.

>>6847273
these are great, nice shadow shapes

>>6847797
I think one of the things that helped me with the scratchy lines was doing some of those exercises that anons always shit on. Like the one where you draw three dots, then try to get a stroke through all 3 in one go.

>>6848050
I like the box heads

>>6848065
great silhouettes

>>6848065
more

>>6849498
bery goodo

>>6832655
Looks like he learned from Michael Hampton

>>6844275
Squeezed these out before i go on vay cay, hope this thread is still kicking when i get back!

>>6845515
I always look forward to blue undersketch guys figgies

>>6849498
more

>>6849556
you have alot of energy in your drawings

>>6850446
Thanks man! That middle drawing has some nice face shadows. Hope you have a good vacation.

>>6851546
thanks mate

>>6851547
fucked the crop

>>6851546
just some imagination figs today. didn't get enough sleep lol.

>>6851547
>>6851548
lookin' real good

Bumping based general

Is Micheal Hampton's figure drawing class or Proko's better for a /beg/?

>>6855833
pic rel is what I'm working from

>>6852963
Saturday is a good day for drawing figs! That top pose was tough.

>>6855833
>>6855843
hmm not sure. Does Hampton have a video course? If he does you can compare their teaching styles and see which one you like better. I know Proko breaks things down quite a bit, and his videos are pretty easy to follow.

Bump

>>6857495
These are hot. I like the way you draw faces, but it's not always well constructed, and your anatomy knowledge could use some brushing up. Otherwise, great work, glad you're studying Vilppu

>>6834919
Are you drawing that with no reference at all?
In my case I started tracing from a picture, now only looking at it

>>6857638
>These are hot. I like the way you draw faces
Really? It makes me happy that someone likes them.
>but it's not always well constructed,
Faces or bodies overall? Anything in particular?
>and your anatomy knowledge could use some brushing up.
I'm currently studying leg muscles, anatomy is such a giant thing I probably will spend my entire life getting better at it.
>Otherwise, great work, glad you're studying Vilppu
Vilppu is my favourite teacher, I always come back to his books and videos. I studied Hampton, Huston, Morpho, but Vilppu is such a great person, his words contain a lot of wisdom, even after coming back to his old videos I always find something new or something I couldn't understand before.
Thanks!

>>6858539
Holy shit these are good. Blog?

>>6858539
how do i get to your level dude

>>6858578
>>6858550
Is this some kind of trolling? There are ppl here much better than me

>blog

boards.4chan.org/ic/

>>6858649
you are really good faggot dont be humble

>>6859101

>>6859104
From a life drawing session last week

I figured out how to draw gesture

>>6859550
more

>>6858539
I like this, please share more of your work anon, if you don't mind

>>6859107
I'm going to my first life drawing session in a few weeks. Any tips to get the most out of it?

>>6856310
more

>>6857495
nice

>>6857920
good start

>>6858539
good use of minimal lines to describe the forms

>>6859101
>>6859104
>>6859107
great job drawing these live. nice expressions

>>6859550
>>6859552
nice action lines

>>6859631
Get there early so you get a good seat (somewhere in the middle). Don't get too caught up in details in shorter poses.

>>6859742
Thank u! I like that you don't use many lines. Also nice feet.

>>6859631
Honestly I'm not sure if there are any benefits of going to life drawing sessions. Studying from photos is way easier and you can find poses that are hard to maintain.

I'm sorry if this is a stupid as question...
But what is the best way to learn figure drawing?

Well...Maybe not the best but the one you guys would recommend?

I'm going through vilppu right now but... I'm starting to get second thoughts...

I figure asking here is better than asking on beg or asg

>>6850290
What? Anon that looks nothing like Hampton

>>6861644
Vilppu is the best teacher in my opinion but he's not really beginner friendly. Check out Hampton or Huston, they might be easier to understand.

>>6861644
Also don't just copy. Try to use what you've learnt on your own figures.

>>6861646
They actually do look like a mix of Proko and Hampton. Arguably more Proko but anyway.

I call this...
The pinnacle of Art

>>6862015
Noice

>>6859742
another round of figs

>>6860481
looks pretty good, you might want to drill some head angle studies, especially the angles where the head is tilted back. If you want to stay with the anime style, I've learned alot from Hide Channel on youtube. you can auto-translate, but I found it mostly helpful to just copy what he's doing. Slow down the playback speed till the point you can follow along.
His finished work isn't what I'm trying to achieve, but his breakdowns really helped me.

>>6861644
What the other anon said, whichever method you choose, try to apply what you learn to your photo studies.

>>6860481
>>6863048
Forgot links, I'm sure he has more on this topic, but that's what I could find quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2viNZwt4JQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyIm2OV8La4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWEKKwKZtWU&t=5s

>>6863072
>>6863048
Haha thanks, my ultimate goal is semi realism and anime. Miura is my favourite artist which is probably obvious. I will save the videos regardless(but most of the tutorials use the Loomis method but anyway).

>>6864673
You might find something like this helpful:

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/planes-of-the-head-andrew-loomis-method-19424b7aa2fc4a4d8987efe4bdb62395

you can just rotate it to the angle you want to study :)

30s ish

It doesn't feel like I'm feeling the form yet.

>>6796066
Fun, lively, vibrant energy. Great.
>>6798397
Sedative, lethargic, zero energy. Also great.

>>6864859
Damn these are cool

>>6864859
nice ones

>>6865519
you have a habit of drawing very short legs. i dunno if you've ever watched huston's full video lectures but he recommends always erring on making the legs too long, and drawing them off of the page if necessary

>>6866531
Yeah I've been meaning to address that. Tried to focus on the legs this session. Haven't gone through Huston's courses yet but I remember him saying that on a youtube videos. It's true, longer legs look better.

Approaching the bump limit if someone wants to continue this thread. Inktober is coming up too.

>>6866456
Did you use lighter pencil? Looks great!
>>6864722
Thanku.
>>6864859
Very gestural, very dynamic. Like them.
>>6864968
In my humble opinion timed gestures are not that useful at the beginning. When you actually get the hang of things yea, it also gets way easier.

>>6863048
back to trad, sketchbook was lonely

>>6864859
wow, these are great! lots of energy in your lines, and very appealing style.

>>6864968
keep it up

>>6865519
>>6866900
This thread has been great, we should definitely do another one

>>6866456
looks good. I like the shoulder blade shape.

>>6867817
more

>>6867817
>>6869799
Breddy good

>>6864859
less good but more from class today

>>6871332
Good ones

>>6873293
>>6873293
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