/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

So is this /asg/ except not anime?

>>6781202
this is /asg/, except not just anime

>>6780777
Yeah, not fizzling out, just frustrated with the Loomis abstraction and have had spotty access to my scanner (and 4chan lately lol)
Might just do to 500 and call it quits and get back to grinding visdev stuff or learning some rendering. The portraiture journey is far from over but not what I want to focus on right now.

>>6781314
I think, as long as you keep grinding figures, you're safe dropping Loomis. I kept improving my head drawing when I drew heads in my figure drawing and master copies. Figure study never stops, and you can't expect to master any one part of it very quickly. Study what you're interested in, and what feels most productive to you at this moment.

Tips on painting are appreciated. I'm new to this

>>6780956
>These are the men who never seem to have had a chance. The truth is, they never seized a chance.
What chance? Of the 100 who try, 100 fail. It's just a matter of how long it takes for them to realize how.

quick study of David

sargent study/copy wip

tedious rendering

>>6782588
great job

>>6782795
very intense

>>6783191
amazing

>>6782239
Yeah, making a quick pit stop with HtDCtMW, doing some female Loomis heads, then just going to do some portraits using the Weston method, but doing some figures as well along the way so I don't get too rusty.

>>6782239
Yeah, making a quick pit stop with HtDCtMW, doing some female Loomis heads, then just going to do some portraits using the Weston method, but doing some figures as well along the way so I don't get too rusty.

saving from the void

>>6787120
Let it die

>>6780956
hope studies from photos are okay here. Feels like I already did these poses before

>>6787139
beautiful, anon

moar marvel, back to Loomies tomorrow

>>6783191
Incredible, oils?

Unfinished study from yesterday

>>6787764
>>6784694
neat

>>6787139
post more!

>>6780956
Value/Back Anatomy study of Logan Paul. (He’s actually a decent wrestler in the WWE)

>>6780956
comfy general with a few good posters but there's barely constructive feedback

>>6788979
nice. now do 100 more!

>>6788991
I can help answer questions, but I barely know anything myself. I prefer to take a supporting role for now. I want more people learning how to do studies. I have links in the op to videos that I think are really helpful

>>6787139
these are so grounded and solid but gestural at the same time, amazing

>>6788971
giant feet damn, she's fucked up

>>6787139
finally someone with ease in the line and the gesture

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>>6789192
samefag?

Leyendecker studies

rendering from imagination

>>6789927
beautiful! I am terrified of color

monke

>>6788872
Sorry if this isn't the right place to ask this but, I really like your figure studies anon! Been lurking this thread for a bit and I like how much movement is in your figures.
And I'm curious how did you get really good at figure drawing? I'm currently struggling drawing from life. My biggest problem is by how stiff and out of proportioned they are.
Also who/what do you study from your figure drawings? Once again, I really like your studies. Here's a attempt that I did, lots of things are wrong with it, but I've been stuck at this stage of drawing from life for a bit.

>>6790667
I'm honestly really flattered to hear you like my work. Thank you <3

My first big break came when I found Glenn Vilppu. I found out about him when I was reading Craig Mullin's Sijun Posts pdf and he recommended beginners to "Worship Vilppu for the next 5 years, if you wanted to get good. Be in Vilppu's class, or the hospital, and nowhere else :)" those were his words. So obviously, hearing that come from a world class artist, I went and sucked up everything Vilppu had to offer and my work improved tremendously. That was the first time I had ever been so rigorous about feeling form, modelling every plane, and carving into the surfaces with cross contours. I guarantee you that if you do his assignments, you will improve. All of drawing will become clear to you.

My next big break was finding David Finch. I had plateaued for some years, because i was obsessively doing Vilppu, taking it too far. All my figures looked like they were made of legos, very boxy and blobby, but not human. Doing the David Finch roadmap and doing master copies in the way that he recommended made my work natural looking. In the HackMD link in the OP, I have all of David Finch's links listed right at top.

I think, if you just do the David Finch roadmap, you will get all the same benefits from Vilppu, while also keeping your work looking natural. It's especially important to watch all his study streams, because those videos outline the best way to study art, imo. Good luck with your journey, and feel free to keep posting your work here!

>>6790667
oh, to answer your questions, for figure drawing, i buy Grafit studio photo packs from art station. Make sure to get photos with good lighting (single source lighting), as that brings out the true form best

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>>6790686
Thanks a lot for your input anon! Also your work is one of my favorites on this board to be honest! I went through Vilppu's drawing manual for a bit, some of his wording is pretty complicated, I did study some of the figures he did in that book. Guess I'll go through it carefully now.
Also for his videos and such, which video really helped you with overall figure stuff? Or did pretty much all of them helped?
I've heard of the David Finch roadmap through "copying Bridgman twice" phrase said on here. I'll also start from the beginning from there too and try to work my way up it.
>master copies in the way that he recommended
Is that in one of his vids? Or the roadmap itself? Also how'd you learn anatomy as well? Sorry for all the questions, I'm at the part of drawing where I'm hard stuck on what to do to improve.
But thank you so much for your input anon! I want to put out good figure studies almost everyday like you

janky painting, but I think I'm getting better

>>6790702
NICE I'm jealous of your handling of the brush

>>6790735
No problem!! Vilppu can be hard to study and very abstract, but if you just copy him as he draws, you'll get it. The example drawings in the Vilppu drawing manual are good to copy through too.

The Vilppu videos I studied are here:
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Fr4y1q7nK/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

I also highly recommend the NMA lectures he did, they're the exact same material, but you can get them legally, to support him :) However, I saw the greatest improvement when I drew the basic shapes in the drawing manual: beans, boxes, and stuff. It only took me a few weeks to really "max" them out, but from then on, every line I made was a felt form. Nothing was really flat anymore.

The David Finch master study streams:
Frank Frazetta: https://youtu.be/ZqJ2h4Jw5nU
Claire Wendling: https://youtu.be/7ukExmlSRWU
Simon Bisley: https://youtu.be/Z2CZKX089w0
Travis Charest: https://youtu.be/ko7H8FGwks8
Carlos Pacheco: https://youtu.be/jFkqUtJ4mRM
Kevin Nowlan: https://youtu.be/ni30Hp72aeY
Joe Quesada: https://youtu.be/atXd2HbHYO8

Don't stress out too much, just enjoy the process and be curious! I literally spent the last 5 hours drawing from the references I have saved on my computer and listening to my City Pop playlist on Spotify. It's important to find a routine you enjoy and can look forward to doing every day.

>>6790762
Thank you so much anon! also thanks for putting all of those videos down! I'll definitely check them out and try my best to follow along too.
I'll go through The Vilppu book fully this time now, also while studying his vids carefully. Also the Finch videos are a great way to get into the drawing flow state.
Once again, thank you so much for your input anon and for the resources! Also goodluck on your drawing journey too, I always look forward to your studies.
Thank you again!

>>6790762
Thank you so much anon! also thanks for putting all of those videos down! I'll definitely check them out and try my best to follow along too.
I'll go through The Vilppu book fully this time now, also while studying his vids carefully. Also those David Finch vids look like a great way to study along too as well.
Once again, thank you so much for your input anon and for the resources! Also good luck on your drawing journey too, I always look forward to your studies.
Thank you!

Would you critique my study? I'd love some beginner tips on soft edges

>>6790925
I'd say don't focus on edges for now but on getting your light and dark groups defined. From your sketch it's kind of hard to tell where the shadow are

Other anons recommended I spend more time measuring so I did that, less time rendering. I feel I'm okay at rendering, and other things need to improve.

1H strict

Study of a photo. Not happy with how it came out, I believe it's something to do with the level of details not being consistent but I'm not sure. Can someone give me some pointers?

>>6791012
Here's the og photo

>>6791012
It's solid, not sure what are you unhappy with. Maybe people could be indicated differently, they don't read well, feels like you spent least effort on them. Or just get rid of them.

>>6790939
Thanks, it's a good tip. I've been rushing the sketches and there's not much benefit

>>6791012
Compositionally, you're framing the white Church (?): it might have been a better idea to frame the people on the beach. Eventually move to trad (gouache).

You did an okay job.

Next time, fix yourself some objective goals, so that you have ways to evaluate where you've succeeded / failed.

>>6791035
>>6791612
Thanks for the tips. I'll pick a simpler subject next time. I think I got burned out with this one

>>6787964
Thank you, oils yes

>>6790906
gmi!

>>6790925
other anon gave you great advice. I would also advice cleaning up your lines, so you don't hide your mistakes

>>6791009
I left a crappy paintover for you in the other thread, but mostly, keep doing line drawing, don't worry about painting so much. Focus on gesture and structure

>>6791012
I think you're a flawless painter

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>>6789927
Awesome work and use of color. I love the one on the right especially!

>>6782239
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>>6782341
Lovely

>>6782239
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>>6782341
Very nice lines, anatomy, and perspective. I also think it’s impressive how consistently you drew the same body

these threads inspire me a lot. this took me 30 minutes and the legs turned into mush and got away from me

Should I be doing studies as a complete /beg/?
What kind of studies? Is it a good idea to copy Bridgman as a beginner?

>>6794703
as a /beg/ i think the best thing is to just try and draw whatever and try to draw it accurately. i unironically would recommend getting whatever reference images you want, using photoshop or paint or something to put horizontal and vertical lines on the image or even a full-on grid, and then drawing from it using those lines as plumb lines to check the angles of things or where things roughly align. you need to get in that habit of looking for how things are placed relative to each other and what direction something is going in

they're getting better, I think... only took almost 500. Some of these I'm pretty proud of, actually. I like the second row and the leftmost head on the third row

>>6795039
And these last 5 felt pretty good