/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6771405
just get a lead holder you fucking mongoloid.

>>6771405
>spends 15 dollars US just to use one 2B pencil
what an idiot kek

>>6771438
>>6771418
>poors

>>6771405
These were the first pencils I brought when I started learning to draw... And I was so disappointed, they're just regular pencils
Graphite as a, medium is pretty shit overall
If you want black and white, use Charcoal
I do most of my sketching in high quality oil colored pencils now, they feel divine on paper as opposed to that scratchy feeling of pencil.
I use Lyra Rembrandt

>>6771405
how does faber-castell mog faber-castell?
also i just buy individual b2, so instead of an useless set, i have a full bag of b2

btw you dont draw OP
pic rel is (you)

just use one of these

>>6771405
I use a koh-i-noor 2mm, what now?

>>6771567
not the giga 5.6mm

>>6771567
Try that on my Staedler 780, bitch

>>6771600
Actually I got that too

FC makes a nice mark, but I hate them ever since they changed to their eco friendly "wasserlack" water-based green paint. Shit comes off all over your hands. They ruined a really good pencil.

Dunno about those but I've got a set of of their Polychromos colored pencils, they're nice.

>>6771405
quite

for me it's mars staedtler

>>6771510
lol no, it's awful compared to a regular lead, for drawing

>>6771604
the real power tool

>>6771405

Faber-Castell gets blown put of the water by Tombow Monograph and Staedtlet Lumograph.

-t. graphite artist

>>6771405
Faber is a garbage company producing nothing but trash. It's the definition of paying for a brand rather than paying for quality. I have that exact box.
Even Faber's fucking mechanical pencils SUCK. Avoid this company like the plague.

am i the only person itt who actually uses the full set for various purposes? theyre all kino for different things

except anything bellow like 4H, do nothing pencils

>>6772143
Why's that? I got a few of their pencils and watercolor pencils kit and theyre pretty good

>>6771438
>not just going to the store and buying them individually
you'd have to be a fool to fall for the set scam

>>6772143
>It's the definition of paying for a brand rather than paying for quality.
that'd be blackwing

>>6771440
>you don't waste money on shit you don't need
>so ur le poor
spoken like a poor ass nigga

the bic lead holder is fucking SHIT,
the thing to sharpen the lead is so god awful you need to dismount it all thje time just to remove the lead that didn't get ejected

>>6772143
>Faber's fucking mechanical pencils SUCK
I got one of the 0.3mm mars micro and the fucking mechanism breaks if you do as much as look at it funny

>>6772432
you dont sharpen lead holders. you do your rough shapes and lines and then come in with a .3 or .5 for detail and making clean lines. its supposed to be a dull big blob of graphite. you can get an edge if you just rotate it slightly as well.

>>6772494
>you dont sharpen lead holders.
There's literally a sharpener in the cap of a 2mm staedler lead holder. You don't *have to* sharpen the leads, but it's clearly something.

Fine artists typically use (sharpened) 2mm clutches over .3/.5/.7 leads.

>>6772668
>2mm staedler lead holder
>>6772494
kohinoor have it too.

>>6772285
>Buy a set
>replace the pencils as they wear out with individual ones
I R SMRT.

>>6772668
that cap sharpner is absolute trash buying a seperate one is much better, they manage to keep their points so well too unlike a regular pencil. But it is worse for trying to shade with the side of the lead

Also it seems that people are getting lead holders and mechanical pencils confused. Those japanese mechanical pencils that rotate whenever you press down are pretty cool though

and this is why digital is superior

>>6771731
Based. I bought 8 the other day for his courses but I haven't tried them yet because I'm too nervous to sharpen them.

Powerful.

>>6772792
It's good when you're on the spot. Sandpaper is the most polyvalent sharpening option in my experience

>>6772798
Digital art as no intrinsic value, and usually doesn't allow the expression of skills as fully as traditional mediums. It's superior from the perspective of businesses needing to mass produce / produce quickly, but that's generally not what (fine) artist aims to do.

>>6772798
>and for you, my grandchild, i leave behind this jpeg drawing
yeah, no

>>6771677
>Prismacolor moves to Mexico
>gets better
>Faber-Castell moves to Brazil
>gets worse
Even among slaves there's rank.

any fineliners that can be refilled?

>>6773184
technically all of them, but your problem with fineliners is that the nibs will wear down

>>6773184
Syringe Life
>>6773199
Depends how hard you press, I've gotten a lot of use out of refilled Pigma Microns

>>6773199
>>6773295
Do you use a specific ink to refill random fineliners?

>>6772821
which ones did you get

>>6777970
Conté 1710 b

>>6772821
Well, the first pencil broke while I was sharpening it. Hopefully that one was just a dud. I'm too stressed to try sharpening another right now.

>>6773010
Just get a professional print made. If you want to be a fucking idiot about it, destroy the original image.

>>6771456
>Graphite as a, medium is pretty shit overall
Mogged

>>6779944
This. Digital art is the same as printmaking - it's for mass reproduction. Instead of carving lines into copper, you draw a picture using software. If Albrecht Durer was alive today, he would use digital medium.

>>6771456
I think pencils do have their place, especially when used more similarly to charcoal in terms of using the different weights in their proper use case, rather than just going at everything with one weight.

But I do definitely think charcoal is better.

>>6771510
Mechanical has it's uses, but they can't just be used interchangeably with regular graphite pencils. Same as Using an HB won't do the job of a 6B. Tools have specific uses in mind, so it's really comparing apples to oranges when saying mechanical is better than a wood pencil.

Also I have a really nice metal mechanical pencil, has a good weight to it.

>>6778961
you developed your technique on some shit office pencils first, right anon?

>>6771405
I should have hoarded these pencil 20 years ago. They aren't the same as before.

>>6782268
They're made in Brazil now as pointed out before.

>>6771405
Wow this is a really fancy pencil set lol. I usually just use any random pencils I have laying around the house. I find pencils everywhere, so im not running out anytime soon.

>>6773010
lmao exactly

desu the faber castell six-set is good enough because all I ever use is the 2H like me. Mostly cuz I do pencil sketch and then ink.

>>6771405
>*mogs your pencils*

i love these lil niggas like you wouldnt believe