/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6760075
Vilppu is love, vilppu is life.

repostan from dead thread

>>6760075
red Pill me on vilppu

>>6760075
I did Loomis then thos is what came out of my imagination. Wtf did I do wrong anons!?!

day 13
4 point perspective... 5 point perspective... 6 points perspective... is this how it works lol
it's disappointing that even in 5 point perspective the z axis lines remain straight, i guess it makes sense with how the human vision works
Also i tried gestures with no theory, what could go wrong?
>image resolution is too large
waow
>>6759007
cool face
>>6758791
>basic shading
ok, what now? How do i do highlights and colors

>>6760075
i really preferred when the op images featured drawings from the last thread that was fun

>>6760113
>thos is what came out of my imagination.
Your mind is filled with demons, anon.

>>6760075
So whats the difference between the new vilppu drawing manual and the old one? New art or just a hardcover reprint?

>>6760143
They are the same but the new one has a couple new drawings.

>>6760075
can someone moe knowladgable than me do me a favour and tell me what looks off about these because something ain't right

>>6760157

Head to small for necksize on the left, eyes weirdly placed

>an artist I'm collabing with shared a folder download of a pirated art program for me to download
what are the chances it will kill my computer

experimenting with a different approach to produce clean linework ontop of my sketches
>>6760157
eyes are wonky and misaligned
neck too big / head too small
pupils are not pointing to some common direction (thousand yard stare)
mouths are not following the curvature of the head/face
"muzzle" (=space above and below lips) is too small
and the list goes on but it is hard to put into words

your rendering and even the basic description of 3d form and perspective are at a higher level than your understanding of proportions and anatomy
if your rendering were worse, this could be called "polished turd"
no matter if it is realism or stylisation, you need a lot more practice of the fundamentals

good drawing can carry bad painting, but good painting cannot carry bad drawing
you should practice the head and the face without rendering or even color. just sketching the general "gesture" of the head+facial expression, the form (=anatomy) of the eyes, nose, mouth and tying it all together with just very simple, quick lighting

you are *x number* of heads/faces away from improving in this regard. you should get this number down through quick practice instead of finished paintings

>>6760184
>what are the chances it will kill my computer
Miniscule. Download Malwarebytes and do a scan. If you find something you gotta boot up the Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool.

Haven't done any fucking drawing today even though i was meaning to.
I'll get started on it asap tomorrow. Hopefully.

>>6760229
Do it now. Draw lines and circles for fifteen minutes then report back so I can check off on your assignment.

>>6760157
Heads are really really really hard. Just a few milimeters off with anything and it feels uncanny to the human eye because we know very well what faces look like, but ironically can't draw them lmao.

>>6760229
Do some 2-5 min gestures / croquis

>>6760188
Why not use a g-pen!

>>6760188
you probably already know this, but make the lines inside of the body (like the ones around the stomach/abs or back/spine) thinner than the lines used for the outer parts of the body, smaller brush size, im not on my own pc atm but im sure you know what i mean and have seen plenty of artists do this

>>6760242
>im not on my own pc atm but im sure you know what i mean and have seen plenty of artists do this
nvm this pc has an example, witht he girl on the top left having hatched inside lines which do the same effect as thinner lines

>>6760111
“Feel” isn’t only meant in the artistic sense ;)

>>6760112
>cool face
thanks. your gestures look decent, i don't think it needs to be a very formalized process. Whatever helps you find the best rhythm between the extremities of the figure. i like to copy bridgeman figures without lifting my pen as a gestural exercise. often the arms and legs kind of swing into one another, across the bulk of the torso. avoid just drawing contours or stiff box-and-stick men. check out nicolaides' gesture drawings, not to copy, but just to see how loose a gesture can be.
>ok, what now? How do i do highlights and colors
i recommend you actually step back to your boxy Juri sketch. just light the planes of the boxes, don't worry about organic shapes yet. You've pillow shaded the current sketch in such a way that it ignores the underlying form. shouldn't be too tough for you, given your box studies

i like drawing but i draw like a child but im trying :)

>>6760258
'i draw like a child' is what has kept me from actually getting into drawing for the past three years
today i tried to draw again and figured 'i am only able to draw like a child' is worse than 'i draw like a child,' and so now i am determined to get better

>>6760269
i dont how to get better but im good at grinding so ill just draw everyday :p

>>6760256
>pillow shaded
it's not pillow shaded though lol

>>6760270
If you want to draw figures, start with gestures on day 1. Download some reference packs and watch vilppus course on gesture, or any other book like hampton steve huston or brent eviston.

>>6760080
keys to drawing is a must

>have a film i really want to see
>want to watch it at night so i know for sure i won't get interrupted
>procrastinating on drawing means my nights are always reserved for last-resort practice
i want to see it tomorrow, so i swear i will have my training done come evening tomorrow

>>6760276
>it's not pillow shaded though lol
each individual part of the lineart, i.e. head, chest, arm, lollipop, hair buns, is shaded in such a way that the centre is the brightest and the outer parts are the darkest. There's also no clear direction of the lighting, with the underside of the chest lit the same as most of the head and few cast shadows. Thought that's what pillow shading was

>>6760276
looks it to me

>>6760293
https://youtu.be/hTh9NpGPeYw
>is shaded in such a way that the centre is the brightest and the outer parts are the darkest
yes.. because the light is coming from the viewer

>>6760075
>tfw my art looks worse than everybody here
it's over for me

>>6760335
the true begs have either given up or got better, that's why the general is now called /beg/ + /int/

>>6760188
those are fair points, i don't really have any buisness rendering when i have never look at the anatomy properly, on the other hand making sketches of heads from photos sounds quite boring

and thanks for all that, i tried kind of fixing it, gave it as much effort as i'm willing to put into a pointless headshot

did the eye exercise
i should probably do more than one exercise per day

1H

Spent more time on measures, realised I'd stiffed myself when I wasn't using shadow to describe form.

>>6760369
you need vilppu, not squishi and soft enough.

I finally decided to try block coloring

>>6760369
quite honestly, no matter how good you are at measuring the figure, you won't get a good result until you understand form and anatomy. The figure is far too complicated to copy it every time and get a good result.

Personally, I think you're at a good enough level of measuring. Now it's time to focus on Vilppu, like the other anon said, and learn to build the figure from simple forms and anatomy.

Also, I would advise beginners to spend more time copying from artists rather than photos or life. Master copies are easier to comprehend and teach you good design language right from the get go. Get all of Bridgman's books and copy them, then find your favorite artists and copy all their work. Only after that, ease into drawing from life.

anyone else feel like there's a minimum size below which you can't draw? i'm doing gestures and even when i force myself to draw the torso smaller than i'm used to, i'll still draw the limbs oversized if i don't actively course-correct every single second

Hello beg. Tomorrow i will finish the book. It was about the time. It overstayed its visit.

>>6760335
that is because a lot of begs NEVER PYW. And look at you: you didnt PYW either. PYW!
>>6760258
pyw
>>6760184
>zoomers are scared of pirating software in 2023
back in my days windows had no protection whatsoever, programs could read/write into memory as they pleased and "antivirus" wasnt a thing. Nowadays you have sandboxing, firewalls with app based rules, online scanners of viruses, VAC, and 16 terabytes big discs where you can backup literally EVERYTHING and every slightly important login needs 2nd authorization method so even if they steal your password they wont be able to do anything with it
>>6760143
check the bottom right corner and compare it yourself?
>>6760113
you didnt use reference
>>6758302
google my handle, find my blog, check the FAQ :-). tldr: i wanna make a videogame for coomers
>>6760422
i struggle immensely drawing simplified small heads like in my today s study. but that is only because i am lazy fuck who doesnt ever use zoom. in digital anything you draw can be as big as your monitor.

is watching this the recommended way of studying bridgman?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FupeKX4NQsQ

>>6760434
>wants to make video game for coomers
>draws ugly westoid shit

>>6760434
Your messages and schizo-ironic images make it look like you think you're way way cooler than you actually are

>>6760369
>>6760420

Spent 5min on this when I got to work. I'll meditate on what you've mentioned, and will be back tomorrow.

Kinda decided to fuck around and draw an idea I had.

>>6760478
22?

WERE ALL GONNA MAKE IT PREBEG BROS

>>6760501
Im so fucking dumb man. I was drawing this while hyped up on caffeine.

Some quick anime head studies, I've gotten way better at it I think, right was a month ago

>>6760508
Don't worry man, my mind still lives in 2019 right before the scamdemic happend

>>6760502
Based evolution anon

>>6760556
Been in a depressive rut and I wanted to try drawing again.

i like this sketch buts its gonna take so long to finish i almost dont feel like drawing it

>>6760276
It’s definitely pillow shaded.

>>6760550
Left looks loads better. Anything in particular you focused on?

>>6760502
Sweet Susie I like your growth state. Stay hyped

>>6760099
this but unironically
>>6760434
>coomers
my brother

>>6760596
I will have sex with your OC.

>>6760585
I drew alot of gesture/figures, and I guess my observation/copying skills improved through that tl;dr I just drew

>>6760618
Also drew alot of volumes like cylinders/spheres/cubes in perspective and always draw contour lines on my figures to get an idea how it's positioned in space

>>6760596
sex, also what's your construction process

>>6760632
I draw a line divided into 3 parts, one for head+neck, one for ribcage, and one for pelvis+ rest of torso
cylinders for thighs and arms
if I knew how to make webm I could draw some figures to post

absolute beginner here going through 'fun with a pencil' right now
am i supposed to draw one head for every single head that's drawn in the book as well, or are these absolute quantities of heads just there for the sake of explanation?

absolute beginner here going through 'fun with a pencil' right now
am i supposed to draw one head for every single head that's drawn in the book as well, or are these absolute quantities of heads just there for the sake of explanation?

>>6760647
Doesn't matter. You will eventually draw thousands of heads over many years if you continue drawing for the rest of your life.

I would say, the heads are "potato"-ish because Loomis doesn't want you to worry about precision so much right now. Just have fun and be loose and make htem do many things.

>>6760647
I did everything in blue, or when the book was telling me to do the examples below I did 2/3rds of what was on the page (So instead of all 36 figures across three pages, I did 27 of them.)

>>6760647
you won't learn to draw if you don't actually draw anything, yes you have to copy the drawings. the book is quite short, just copy the whole thing. you'll need to draw much more than that to get the concept down anyways.

Are there any channels that have step by step tutorials for anime characters beyond anything extremely basic like pikachu?

>>6760652
>>6760655
>>6760657
i see, thank you very much

>>6760660
hide channel

>>6760670
thanks

can someone help me figure out how the facial highlight would look?

>>6760112
I know fuck all about color, and only just barely enough about modeling tone to give the idea of basic volumes. I don’t know much at all about light and shadow and such.
I recommend either vilppu or Hampton or Huston or Gnass for gesture. Just watch some YouTube videos of them demonstrating gesture drawings, decide which style makes the most sense to you, then you can learn from their course.
>trying to make perspective even harder
Godspeed you absolute maldad
>>6759683
Motherfucker I bet your heads from imagination are better than my heads from reference.
>>6760184
I find your figures deeply appealing.
>>6760420
>I would advise beginners to spend more time copying from artists rather than photos or life. Master copies are easier to comprehend and teach you good design language right from the get go.
That… makes perfect sense. I think I’m gonna try that.
>>6760550
YUGE improvement, good job!
>>6760573
I like that sketch too
>>6760718
Impressive!

my very first day of drawing, if you don't count the 10 previous attempts where i quit after 20 minutes. i just went through the first few pages of the loomis pdf
i don't think there is even anything to critique here but whatever, i figure i may as well get over the fear of posting my drawings early

Copying some pinterest images

I'm turning 20 in the next week, fuck being a procrastinating beg loser I'm going to do whatever I can to be an animator within the next few months. I'm fueled entirely by my self hatred

>>6760748
Thank you.

>>6760754
i really like how you draw your shoulders
do you have a specific method that you use? Mine always turn out shit

I'm jealous of artists like Henry Darger who could make art their private hobby, being 100% self motivated. See I have to show people my stuff, but the fact is no one I know gives a shit, yet it's not good enough to share online either. So I always just lose motivation.

Bunny

>>6760772
Not really. I just copied loomis and this guy when i started
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt3XZdHY8qA&list=PL3MxkMIAeuf36McqpjrpzvttMkaYFAIP_&index=3&ab_channel=AKIHITOYOSHITOMI

>>6760751
You’re gonna make it. I can feel it.
>>6760782
Try learning from
>>6760751
>>6760754
and just post your work. The worst that can realistically happen is some crab calls you a retarded niggerfaggot and tells you to kill yourself. But this is 4chan, so that’s gonna happen whether you pyw or not, so it doesn’t really matter. This is /beg/; we all suck (or believe we suck, which is actually worse for you). The point is that we all suck, together, and maybe if we try hard enough we can help each other suck a little less. If you look at the regulars who post their work consistently, you can see them all make visible progress. Just draw with us, fren. Wagmi

>>6760278
Wat book thats from?

>>6760782
I lose motivation just because I'm terrible and can't even draw the thing in my head

>>6760829
most anons can't draw anything from imagination. Just copy from reference or books to start

>>6760718
is you that one bitch ass poster
bitch ass

>>6760790
兎ちゃんは大可愛いいい!!!

I took too long to get here. Then again i was busy.

>>6760833
So how long am I supposed to be copying from reference before I can do it on my own?

>>6760832
:)
>>6760790
Cute! Great job, anon!
>>6760420
>>6760748
Alright I gave some Bridgman a shot like you said. I feel like I understand feet a lil better. Imma add in some Bridgman studies going forward. Surprised at how decent the hand came out.

Seems pretty useful. But I feel like after Bridgman, I’ll need some Vilppu to counter the whole “carved from rough-hewn blocks of granite” thing. Matter of fact, I think I’m gonna go find some soft, supple thighs to study.

>>6760759
Once you gain momentum, try switching to a more sustainable fuel source. Godspeed.

>>6760957
when u feel like u can do it, or draw a couple of times from reference and then draw on your own after that to see if u can do better than before.
Search for stuff thats kinda like what you want to draw

>>6760957
Drawing from imagination is its own separate skill. You’ve gotta git gud at construction. You gotta be able to rotate cubes and tubes and such in your head and have them be in perspective. Then you can manipulate those basic forms and combine them into anything you want. That is a different skill set than pure sight size xeroxing. Instead, when you draw from reference, you want to understand the forms you’re seeing, then construct the reference using your basic forms. (After you’ve broken the beg curse of symbol drawing. If you can’t see properly, you won’t understand your reference well enough to analyze and construct it. Keys to drawing or drawing on the right side of the brain will help you overcome this.)

Courses to train this skill: I recommend Draw A Box, Dynamic Sketching, ArtWOD, Mark’s Drawing Turorials, Vilppu, Hampton, Huston. And a good perspective course, like the one from Marshall Vandruff. Most importantly, the whole time you’re doing this, you need to be practicing construction, practicing drawing from imagination.

first i was doing morpho
then i swerved into anatomy for sculptors
now i should be studying figures in perspective too
and i don't know what i'm doing
should i be focusing on one thing at a time?
am i doing the right thing?
should i do something else?
my head hurts

>>6760087
Where is this from? This is very useful.

I’ve been staring at this page for entirely too long and I need some feedback. Do you think the straight line along the characters right side is too distracting? I tried to think of a way to add an “s” or even a “c” curve to it, but couldn’t figure.

>>6760647
By the way that book is good for total /beg/s for a few more pages before it /beg/-traps you and demoralizes you. Just so you know, when the figures start showing up it becomes a different book that you perhaps should come back to later down the line once you've had some practice drawing with references. Good luck anon

>>6760959
I feel like I can breathe a …thigh of relief.
>>6760990
I don’t know. I don’t think the line itself is the problem. It’s not really clear where his clothes end and his body begins, if that makes sense. The leggings are skin tight, the sleeves are skin tight, so it looks kind of weird in the arm hole of the vest where it looks like it’s just filled to the brim with armpit. Are you able to redline the body underneath all the clothes? That might help you pin down what’s bugging you.

Btw I really like the composition! Adding a background already mogs 90+% of /ic/.

>>6760959
nice bridgman! And definitely don't neglect to find artist you love and copy their work. it's a good idea to study the aesthetic you want to emulate directly

>>6760797
That's a good point. I'll try posting stuff here, even just on the off chance people dig it. I'm looking to make some trippy watercolor stuff, here's a snail

>>6760984
I think you should focus in understanding simple volumes and perspective for now
Keep in mind I don't really draw anime and I'm a beg too so take my advice with caution

>>6760188
wip of one of the last "one pic per episode of HOTD" challenge i set for myself

>>6760241
i - i dont know what that is. searching "g-pen" brings up vape pens and generic photos of drawing tablets...?

>>6760242
>>6760248
b-baka! of course i know this. i am a genius after all!
yeah i want to replace my sketchy shading with more cleanliness, and i have yet to decide whether it will be hatching and softer lines like you mention, or some soft wide brush work

>>6760338
>on the other hand making sketches of heads from photos sounds quite boring
it doesnt have to be! find references or (very good in terms of fundamentals) artworks that fit well with what you want to draw from imagination anyways
and you can spice the practice sketches up after you are done. nothing stopping you from adding fancy hairstyles, horns, piercings, tattoos etc to the sketches and turn them into a hybrid between study and personal work

>>6760502
>>6760550
impressive progress. good job anons!

>>6760596
are these from imagination or from reference?
any advice on how to make my figure drawings look more "whole"? i dont know how to put it, but your drawings feel so coherent and focused. for lack of a better description it feels like you are at least half japanese lmao. almost all of my drawings feel like the body, the face, and the clothing are done by very similar but yet different people. or as if all three were done in a vacuum and then stitched together.
how much percent of your practice from references is done copying real life people from photos, and what percentage is copying anime refs?
in any case, i like your art very much

>>6760751
welcome aboard

>>6760754
how about you uhmm... copy some images where we can see her panties next?

>>6760790
cute

>>6760832
your pics are usually great but this one looks like she has an ugly nose due to that one strand of hair lol

>>6760959
>>6761048
honestly exceptional depiction of form

>>6761078
>your pics are usually great
can't believe that guy went from being the bane of everyone's existence to actually being appreciated, and in such a short time no less
you really just gotta pyw untill you make it

I like drawing, but I can't get over the loneliness of it. I don't know what's going to happen to me.

>>6761129
>can't believe that guy went from being the bane of everyone's existence to actually being appreciated, and in such a short time no less
>from being the bane of everyone's existence
why? what did he do / post in the past?

>>6761142
they posted their shitty 30 second doodles regularly in cbsg when everyone there is putting up their best effort

>>6761138
But the loneliness is great! Also, you could always work on some art projects with friends (if you have any)

>>6761144
>they
is it a tranny?
all ive seen of him are just posts of pictures, almost never with any text. assuming this is his usual behavior i dont see how he could gather animosity towards himself

>>6761159
>it
kys

Did this one without reference.

>>6761078
>how about you uhmm... copy some images where we can see her panties next?
mayb next time. dunno who she is tho

I finally see it. You just draw everything badly until you draw it convincingly until you can just see it already existing in your picture plane, and THEN you can start messing with your shapes.

>>6761192
KJG was really something else

>>6761192
This thing looks so goofy at first but the more you look the more it becomes apparent that this retarded cat is a sentinel protecting the temple of talent.

>>6761138
gayest post ITT

I have been struggling to get into digital art. I can draw okayish when it's traditional, but when it comes too line art it looks very flat or scribly. I tried experimenting with free custom brushes, but no luck. Are there perhaps any tutorials focused on digital art (line art in paticular) that don't try too sell a subscription or just humble brag about their career?

>>6761058
very nice, princess kaguya-esque

day 14 (!!)
The idea of this was to move on from boxes into a boxified human figure which i guess i should start doing now
I peeped the force pdf for gestures
im worried that these exercises are cutting into my /justdraw/ too much
>>6760984
>>6760502
>>6760369
thanks for the reference
>>6760990
tried to gesture this pose but couldnt

>>6761327
did my retarded ass forget the img again? couldnt be

>>6761138
hold on to the dream that one day you will find a friend who's at the same skill level as you, who genuinely wants you to succeed and is so kind that you will never feel afraid to send your work to them. just do your best to believe that one day you will meet such a person
that way you'll only feel lonely temporarily

how much should i draw per day? how much do (You) draw per day?

>>6761333
the amount doesn't matter much but the consistency does. I try to do about an hour a day or try to fill up a couple of pages.

>>6760718
based rinotuna enjoyer

>>6760988

(Graphic-Sha) Sketching Manga Style Vol. 4 All About Perspective.pdf

It’s from the IC torrent

I decided to follow the advice Pawell gives to all begs and pick up Keys to Drawing. I am doing his method of copying everything + doing assignments. This is today's work, still haven't gotten to the first chapter lol. The "sketchbook" my brother bought for me as a gift is basically printer paper (80 g/m^2) but small, so I'm doing most of the drawing on the actual printer paper for more space and reserve the "sketchbook" for small stuff. Maybe I'll ditch it entirely.

I actually dabbled in drawing previously, tried Fun with a Pencil but got bored of doing the retarded blooks nonstop, copied stuff for a while, made an effort to study Drawing the Head and Hands half a year ago but abandoned it without developing a routine. Picking up drawing again, I actually already did the first chapter of KtD some months ago but decided to start from scratch, we'll see how long I last this time (hopefully for some months at least).
>>6760573
Unusual positive situation. I like it
>>6760754
Cute!
>>6760790
Cool bunny
>>6760959
>>6761048
Form: FELT
>>6761333
It depends on how many gains you want to have and how disciplined you are. I tried 3-4 hours per day at a certain point in the past but failed. I am aiming for a consistent 1-2 h/day now.

What course should I watch, I can't decide

I'm looking for this website that gave courses on cartooning, the website was red and had monthly fee for all kinds of lessons. Anyone know the website, I can't seem to find it.

>>6761395
Forgot pic

>>6761048
Thanks for the response and yes I kept the base body on another layer. I think I was forgetting the groove of the lattisimus, which is hard to see, but I added here.

does anyone know a good program for easy 3d model posing? tried blender but its too hard and design doll but the model sucks

>>6761420
If you're starting out, Proko. Steve Huston figure drawing if you're not a complete drawlet.

how bad is it if these are the results im getting from the first pages of Loomis's "figure drawing for all its worth". I look at these and think might as well give up. no friggen way even a beginner high schooler could screw up with hours of work
>somehow keep messing up proportions, legs somehow always end up short. the 8 2/3 one is especially bad, kind of gave up on it, which in hindsight I shouldn't have because its a drawing lesson. need to go back and redraw them all 2-3 times
>sloppy lines
>bad sense of scale, always end up not using the entire page somehow. stuff like 7 heads tall look larger than 8 heads
maybe im not spending enough time on each one?

>>6760984
bruh

>>6761138
Talk on the phone while you draw, especially since you’re a beginner it’s not like you are working from a deep place of creativity and concentration.

>>6760434
dude, i hate to be the bearer of bad news but i just don't think you're improving like you want. perhaps try copying artists you like?
pic related is a copy from an EoE still.

>>6761458
Based hard angle enjoyer. I always draw really fucked up hard angles because normal ones are too boring.

>>6761454
Do you understand what you're learning from these drawings, or just trying to copy them? Absorbing and applying the knowledge is way more important than getting the copies perfect and with nice lines.

>>6760712
Left. Highlights are for emphasis. Right makes it look like you have another light source.

>>6761471
bit of both. im learning the positions of each part of the body with respect of each segments. like the elbow is where the navel is at, or 3 heads down in a standard 8 head tall proportion. wrist is near crotch level, calves are 1 head unit wide, etc. and knowing these proportions will allow me to accurately make the human figure at any height or width, be it a small and stocky dwarf, or a tall basketball player. or thats what i think ive gotten atleast. I know the book said to just focus on getting the proportions correctly and not worry about how nice the copies look but even then im squandering it

by god it's so hard to push through the discomfort of trying to genuinely understand what i'm drawing. like actually conceptualizing the shapes in 3D space, pushing myself to do things i'm not yet capable of doing, all that.
and to think that i'm going to have to do this every day for the rest of my drawing 'career,' fucking hell.
i figure one day i'll be good enough to actually take some breaks by simply drawing for the joy of it, but i do also hope i'll get tougher and this 'being out of my comfort zone' thing will get easier to bear

just did a quick head from imagination to test out the smudge tool. I'm not too keen on it, but I see lots of concept art people using smudge tool for quickly getting value transitions.

i'm just using a soft round brush for the smudge tool, is there a better brush for this?

>>6761482
You're doing exactly what the book is intending then, don't worry about squandering. Even if it takes you a couple of tries to get on your own, the proportion knowledge sticks.

>>6761490
Sounds like you're trying too hard to visualize and not hard enough on feeling the form. Visualization takes a ton of concentration. Even a beg like me gets the "feel" sometimes, when you start drawing in a line and it's almost like you're running the tip of your pen along the shape itself instead of just picturing it there.

Can you people visualize what you're about to draw? It's just trial and error for me.

Im thinkin og making a comic that is about my adventures in minecafrt.

anyone knows a good resource for learning Simple forms in perspective?

Course, book, youtube video, anything helps

So far my the best I got is copying 3D models hundreds of times

>>6761499
i'm only on my 2nd day of drawing but
>when you start drawing in a line and it's almost like you're running the tip of your pen along the shape itself instead of just picturing it there
there are little moments where it does feel like i'm doing that, i think that's partly what i meant with what i was saying there. just trying to actually treat the drawing as a 3D shape, whether by feel or visualization. whatever it is, i find it very difficult to do instead of just putting a bunch of shapes down in roughly the right places and hoping they turn into a head.

is there such thing as a wrong way or very insufficient way of learning? what I mean is im always kind of scared and super picky on who and where I get my art advice from. like I might pick a "wrong" video tutorial/course and ill pick up on bad habits that'll be difficult to unlearn. Dunno who to trust sometime.

>>6761519
IMO no, because all information needs to be evaluated and internalized anyway. Since there are many conflicting ways to present the information and there are various ways of applying it, your best bet is to learn from anyone, but dismiss anything that doesn't help you make your work better.

Haha look guys i made a pirate! Dont you just love sailing the seven seas? I sure do, this is why i drew a pirate
She even has an eyepatch (completely intentional)

>>6761528
(Forgor the picture)

>>6761531
Show us the eye, anon...

Speed comes later yeah? I hate the fact that doing a simple construction or sketch can take me literal hours as it seems it should take me only a couple minutes. for comparison sake, how long did it took for you guys for each part/phase in your drawings?

>>6761532
Aye eye captain...

>>6761519
I don't know enough about drawing, but I've dealt with this obsession with 'bad habits that are hard to unlearn' in both boxing and music, and in both cases it was mostly bullshit. The better you are at a certain skill, the easier it is to pick up new concepts. For instance: a new piano player might take two months to learn a classical song, but a pianist who has spent five years playing nothing but jazz piano is going to learn the same classical song within a week. He's probably going to play it 'wrong' according to classical standards, but he really won't have any issues working out the kinks and playing it more or less just as well in the eyes of anyone but an autistic elitist. Whatever you do, you can, and WILL pick up some bad habits along the way as you learn, but you'll always pick up more than just the bad habits. There's nothing you can really do about it. You can ask people for foolproof learning material, but you'll get 10 different answers from 10 different people, and ultimately all you're doing is asking questions instead of putting in the man hours you need.
If there really was a completely faultless roadmap to greatness then you'd already know about it, but, alas, you have to just wing it and make some mistakes along the way. With that being the case, I say it's best to just get stuck in and make all those mistakes and get them out of the way sooner rather than later.

Will drawing anime still let me pivot into realistic shading and artstyle down the line? Basically will anime make it harder for me to learn realistic stuff down the line? I don't want to pin myself to a single art style. Anime is cute and all but I'd like to do portraits of real people as well.

>>6761517
You're two days in, anon. Don't worry about that. When you pick up guitar you're struggling to remember where your fingers go for chords every single time, but after a while it becomes thoughtless. Same thing happens with drawing techniques.

>>6761542
Next time run a line through the midpoint of the eye just like you did for the top and bottom. Easier to get a symmetrical form down if you have more reference points.

About done with sketching I think. Might color this if I feel bold.

>>6761536
I'd hope so. I'm not really timing myself, and I get distracted easily, so there's a lot of downtime in between, but this probably took around 5ish hours of actual drawing.

>>6761542
kek at least you see the problem and can joke about it. It's easily fixed too.

>>6761557
Pivot - not necessarily. You're only limited by your time and your willingness to grind. There are areas where there is no overlap between higher levels of realism and more stylized color palettes and figures. There is huge overlap in most everything else. Figure drawing is the same, composition, color usage sometimes differ, but you still want to know and understand both. You can't expect to only do one and be good at the other so expect some things to take double duty to get good at.

Someone like Shinken Gomi is an example of an anime artist that is highly skilled at painting and would have a far easier time making a non-anime portrait look great.

Pic related, Marin's from yesterday and today's portrait I'm still working on. I want to be good at both.

Some day my faces will look human and/or beautiful.
Some day.

>>6761587
Learning to draw a passable pair of eyes, nose and mouth will go a long way into making faces look "ok". Problem is, those are 4 objects that can look wildly different depending on the angle. Don't beat yourself up too much, it takes time.

>>6761584
So some things overlap. Some things I need to learn and grind. Gotcha. I wanna do anime first because i can see some progress fast and kinda get motivated for more.

>>6761600
Solid idea. Feeling good about the work you create will make it easier. Just remember to keep up on fundies and work on anything and everything that looks or feels off. If you put off realism for too long your anime art will suffer for it when it comes to figure drawing. Master studies for both anime art and realism is a must as well.

>>6761600
perhaps you could use your daily bursts of motivation from progressing at anime drawing to practice some realism at the ends of your sessions

I haven't given up yet. Take a break for 2 days and all your gains go into the gutter. We push on with box forms. Now introducing: less clarity.

Fuck uni jetstream pens. These shits glob up like no tomorrow. I'll try to find some hi-tec-cs in store near me.

Picked up the pencil again after a long time, had to draw a basic cover for the game I'm making. I think it turned out pretty decent, wdyt?

Post your recent finished pics.
If your post ends in 0, 2, 4, 6, 8 i will praise the shit out of it. If your post ends in 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 i will tear into your art like you kicked my dog.

>>6761709
Kek, rolling. Have today's 2h study.

Wanted to draw a girl in suit sitting on a throne, other than weird hands and messed up perspective on arms, what else is wrong?

anatomy study, any thoughts?

>>6761729
yea i should have posted this alongside my previous post

How am I doing /beg/ bros?

>>6761718
>praise
The fact that you can do 2 hours of focused practice puts you ahead of more than half of all artists that ever posted in /beg/.
From the thumbnail i could not tell which is the ref and which is the study, meaning you are getting the measurements, proportions, values+colors 90% right already.
While the hair is pretty messy and not very finished, it feels like it has volume and direction, just like the ref.
You went the extra mile by not pussying out of painting a background, gj.
The face is not half bad on its own, and it is recognizable as the woman on the right. I feel like if you were not task-saturated with values+colors, brush strokes it would look even better.
You obviously understand the 3d forms / planes of the face and all that is left is to bring your rendering / painting up to a level that matches your drawing.

>>6761749
Thank you kindly, anon! Even with your coat of praise, I can still tell which parts you would want me to better myself on. I will take them into account when I try my hand at a longer study again.

>>6761729
>>6761734
Anon, drawing a nude human does not constitute "anatomy """study""" " on its own.
If one were to be generous, you are practicing proportions at best.
For it to be a study of anatomy, you would need to have a solid grasp on gesture, proportions and form already. You need the proper foundation to place any knowledge of human anatomy into. Without that foundation your observations of anatomy will be 1. extremely laborious and 2. prone to slip away like sand through your fingers.

Also his face looks like Jerry from Rick and Morty.

Nobody who learns to draw from keys to drawing will ever make it as an artist
Hell, the fucker who wrote that book still hasn't made it. Bert Dodson can't draw for shit
Seriously, Google his work and then tell me you want to learn art from this man

Is "correct posture" such as drawing from the shoulder and sitting up straight some kind of sick joke? Try holding your arm out in front of you with your back as straight as possible for more than 5 minutes without your shoulder getting sore and shaky; it’s uncomfortable and unnatural. I’ve never had any issues of any kind sitting normally with my back against the chair with my elbow on the armrest, but when I try drawing “the correct way” with “correct posture” it only takes about 15 minutes before I say fuck it and quit drawing because the pain is too distracting and detrimental to the quality of my work. I’m not giving up on art but doing things the "correct way" is really kicking my ass.

>>6761770
Pair this with lifting iron.
OHP. Overhead Press. Along with compound movements like bench press and squats. Mix in some pull/chin ups, push ups, and sit ups on days you feel too sore to do shit.
Then you'll be able to lift your arm without trembling lol.

>>6761770
there are things to be said about posture and how to use your arm for drawing, but i think you have been mislead or have misinterpreted something
can you find pictures of what you think is the "correct" way to draw? and while you are at it go find some candid photos or even videos of a life figure drawing session, showing multiple artists in the process of drawing, to compare it to

>>6761770
Remember that "correct posture" in art isn't always taking your set up into account. If you have a lower end screenless tablet laying flat on your desk, taking posture advice from somebody drawing standing up on an easel is useless. Same with the drawing with the shoulder thing - that gets more useful the larger the surface you're drawing on is. <12" tablets aren't going to really allow that much movement.

>>6761758
>Anon, drawing a nude human does not constitute "anatomy """study""" " on its own.

Guess I should call it differently then.

>If one were to be generous, you are practicing proportions at best.
>For it to be a study of anatomy, you would need to have a solid grasp on gesture, proportions and form already.

So what should I do to practice gesture, proportions and form?

Can I come here to piss shit and cry about being bad if I post my work? Or should I just make a vent thread?

>>6761787
Pyw, let's piss and shit on it together. That's what this thread is for.

Lunch break rock value study

How do i make a smooth transition to digital art?

>>6761793

>>6761789
I just wish I wasn't lazy and mentally ill

Was looking at Akira Toriyamas illustrations yesterday so I've sketched this today.

>>6761798
your figures are awesome, but why did you add that vomit background?

>>6761798
This looks a lot cooler than the sketch of it you posted for rating. But taking criticism personally will only hold you back. You could probably get away with starting a manga or whatever cool ideas you have with your art right now, if the ideas are cool enough.

>>6761798
the hands being late 19th century, the limbs being in an older style and the background being in a modern style is really throwing me off

>>6761798
>wish I wasn't lazy and mentally ill
Can't have everything in life.
I assume you drew only the girl in the middle and the rest is a collage of various images? I like the gist of it, but the shift from collage to your work is a bit too distinct. I expected worse, this looks like you just need to refine and work on it.

>>6761802
Neat. Shade some larger areas to pull it all together.

>>6761792
>Study during work hours
Rock and a hard place, eh?
I think you'd benefit from sharpening your pencil on a piece of paper and then shading. The rough hatching is my only real gripe.

>>6761793
Blur and smudge tool should do the job. Alternatively starting because working digitally is a skill in and of itself you have to get used to.

>>6761745
Pretty cute, keep working and try refining one of your drawings.

>>6761728
Traps are wonky even being at an angle. Not sure about the length and form of her legs. Too straight. Chair seems to have two different vanishing points for each armrest, but that goes together with the arms. Keep going.

>>6761679
Not bad for someone that hasn't worked for a while. Shadows are inconsistent and anatomy is so/so in parts, but my main takeaway is that you shouldn't squander your skill and should work more.

>>6761658
Those boxes have some nice curves going on.

What are some good line control exercises? Some anon posted pic several threads ago and I've been doing it, are there more like this? My lines are shit and I need to train them more.

day 2 of going through the loomis book, today i had a look at page 18, decided i'd make 16 balls to figure out how the whole directionality thing works, then i just bit the bullet and made them all into faces
most of the time i just wing it, but sometimes i actually intend to make a certain type of face. not once has that led to the face looking how i initially envisioned it, but once or twice i got close and felt pretty proud of myself
overall i'm exhausted but motivated to get better than this because quite frankly i'm embarrassed at how bad i am
i understand there's not a lot of advice to give here, but i'll still appreciate any tips or pointers
>>6761047
that's good to know, thanks

>>6761828
The first drawabox lessons about lines are pretty good for that.

The more shitty anime-derivative art I see, the more I'm convinced human art (all of it) is fucking dead.

>>6761804
There is a context to the collage background but it's a long story

>>6761858
>the more bad tasting food i eat
>the more i am convinced that good tasting food does not exist
6 million IQ

>>6761078
thanks brother
>are these from imagination or from reference
the figures are by myself but I used some ref pics for the school uniform
as advice I would say to first draw the figure without the clothes and zoom out to check the silhouette of the figure
about practice I would say that 95% of the time I use anime pics as reference but I copy stuff from anatomy books too

>>6761858
>The more shitty impressionist-derivative art I see, the more I'm convinced human art (all of it) is fucking dead.
>The more shitty cubist-derivative art I see, the more I'm convinced human art (all of it) is fucking dead.
>The more shitty futurist-derivative art I see, the more I'm convinced human art (all of it) is fucking dead.
>The more shitty dadaist-derivative art I see, the more I'm convinced human art (all of it) is fucking dead.

>>6761875
None of this is even 1/10 as prevalent as two-digit iq westerner retards and spics drawing "anime", which in reality is just copies of the symbol drawing you see in Japanese corposlop shoveled out for hopeless otakus.

>>6761870
>about practice I would say that 95% of the time I use anime pics as reference
ok i am seriously rethinking my whole approach to studying now. for me it is 95% from photos lol

that brings another question to my mind - what is the percentage split for you in terms of
studying / copying whole figures
vs
studying / copying a single part (eg only practicing the face/head, or only practicing tits, ass, feet etc)
because now i also question my approach of practicing individual body parts instead of grinding predominantly whole figures...

anyways, thanks for the advice!

>>6761889
most of the time I study the whole figure
I would say two thirds the whole figure and one third body parts
but I think that could change depending on your difficulty with each body part, lately I've been grinding faces and hands

It's also important to note what kind of image you are studying, I would recommend something like pic rel rather than a finished rendered image, it's just lines and you learn to memorize body simplifications more easily

>>6761817
>study during lunch hours
I was on lunch so it’s not like I was on the clock. But I’m also on salary so win win.

And yeah I tried to not get those sharp marks, but I’m also using a mechanical pencil so it’s sometimes hard to avoid. The sharp marks look better on shadow parts than light parts. I updated it a little bit just pushing the value a little more

>>6761884
I don't see anime art all the time even though almost all content I consume these days is art education content, because I simply don't run in those circles.
If you're seeing garbage anime art everywhere you look, then you have much more in common with the people you are denigrating than you think
The people in my YouTube recommendations are doing oil landscape paintings and portraits in pastel pencil and Charcoal

If all you're seeing is low iq anime slop, it's because that's what you're interested in, you just don't want to admit it to yourself

>>6761928
SEX

>>6761928
thank you once more
i appreciate you taking time for me
i think im going to pivot hard into studying more figures as a whole and more from anime for a while and see how that feels

>>6760596
my dream

>>6762003
nice skulls bro

>>6761802
>>6761928
>>6761941
>>6762003
Lovely

>>6761056
Thanks! You make good points. Yeah, I’m not exactly sure yet what kind of aesthetic most appeals to me. I know I like Red Blob Anon’s figures, and I like soft squishy fleshy women, but haven’t really decided on a particular artist I want to emulate. I know I fucking love how Hizuki Akira draws/renders his women. Idk if that means I should study him though.
>>6761078
Thank you! That’s pretty high praise, coming from you. I appreciate it.
>>6761390
You can do it! Try not to just get stuck grinding stuff from books. It’s cool to see progress, but if you’re not also drawing things you enjoy looking at and drawing, it will feel like work, and it becomes easier to drop it. Make it so you’re “doing drawing” as well, and not just “doing studies.” I ended up just kind of getting busy and distracted and stopped drawing two years ago. All I would do is grind fundies, so it was much easier to neglect. When reminded of it, my thinking wasn’t “oh man I wanna get back to drawing,” it was “oh man I should get back to studying drawing.”

This time feels different. I think specifically because I occasionally will draw lewd squishy butts and hips, for fun, purely because I like it. Before, I wasn’t really allowing myself to enjoy drawing stuff I wanted to, because doing studies was more respectable and more important. I’d probably be /int/ by now if I’d drawn thicc asses from the beginning, and never let my drawing lapse for two years.
>Form: FELT
Thanks, anon.
>>6761745
>Tsugumomo
Based. I can recognize most of those characters, so you’re doing a good job. Yoshi’s actually another artist I’m considering studying from, myself.
>>6761770
Cool Dino! I think you should listen to the other anons here, and maybe watch some pros in different setups and see how they actually move.
>>6761798
> I just wish I wasn't lazy and mentally ill
Me too, buddy. Nice picture though.
>>6760099
The boobs have bothered me for too long. No more!

One down, two more to go. Can someone comment on the hands here? That's the only part that doesn't look quite right yet. Regardless, I'm happy it came out cleaner than I'm used to.

>>6762100
It starts at the shoulders imo, they're too high.

>>6761858
>Anime-derivative
You mean AI outputs shtting up every website or a general shift towards anime by human artists as the capeshit scene dies and webcomics start blowing up ?

Because you can just filter out the latter, I barely see 5% of anime art on Twitter, half of it comes from an artist know IRL and he's too based to block when he's not being a weeb and a pedophile.

poorly drawn moeblob called "wagmi-chan", thoughts?

I still don't have a good grasp on perspective, warped forms, cubes, cylinders, ellipses, organic forms, rotations, proportion yet.

Is it still worthwhile to practice drawing from reference? What should I be referencing?

>>6760990
>>6761422
Bumping for any other feedback.

>>6762124
>thoughts?
yeah, make her a loli

I need to summon the courage to draw backgrounds more often.

I need to summon the courage to draw backgrounds more often.

>>6762104
I think you should be seeing two knuckles on the right hand from a angle like that, it looks like a closed fist with the sword behind it.

I want to feel form
I just look at Vilppu and I've got tears in my eyes

>>6761802
I quite like that.
>>6761792
Oh, nice.
>>6761828
Drawabox.
>>6761844
Putting in the effort! GMI/10. One thing I notice is your contour lines are pointy and sharp on the ends, which flattens your forms. Heres a bit of an explanation. You’re drawing two lines, starting and ending at the edges of the circle. You want to be drawing “through” the forms, wrapping your line all the way around the object. For a sphere, if you wrap a contour line all the way around it, it looks like an ellipse, because of the angle you’re looking at it. Try taking a rubber band and wrapping it around a tennis ball or something. Look at how the band makes a contour line around the ball, and how the shape the rubber band makes changes depending on your perspective. Watch some of the drawabox lessons on contour lines. And the Marshall Vandruff perspective course will help. Keep it up! you’ll be feeling the form in no time!

Haven't drawn today either.
Two days in a row now. I' not doing so good.

>>6760647
>FWAP
/beg/ status: TRAPPED

>>6762164
Are you lazy or are you depressed?

>>6762169
>Are you lazy or are you depressed?
Depressed since 5~ years. I don't think that's a good reason to not draw though, i've seen depressed people who were still capable of putting in the work.

>>6762172
I'll get to it tomorrow. I know that's what i've said yesterday and also a year ago but this time i really do mean it.

I still kinda suck at anime style stuff (I’m mostly an avant-garde and architecture artist) but here’s a colored sketch of INGSOC-Chan, which I created to distract from my nicotine withdrawals and roomie falling asleep in my studio again.

But yeah, what’re Y’all’s thoughts? Anybody else have experience transitioning from abstract/concept/architecture type of art, into somewhat more “mainstream” mediums? I’ve heard it’s just a grind from some, but I figured there’s no harm in asking …

>>6762172
>>6762173
I have had depression for even longer. While it is absolutely possible to force yourself to "do the right thing" (in this case, draw) i believe you should have some self-compassion. Do not beat yourself up for not drawing, you are only worsening your situation that way. Project what you feel (being depressed) and what you wish for (drawing, improving in art and possibly even having fun through drawing) on an imaginary, fantasy person.
You might tell that person things like
>drawing even one single doodle is better than not drawing at all. even if its not focused practice, do yourself that favor so you can say to yourself at night "my depression could not take away that one doodle from me"

Your battle with depression is very personal and i cant possibly find the right combination of words to bestow upon you some break through that leads you to victory. I can only tell you from experience: this battle can be won. and every time you do, the next battle becomes a bit easier to win. be smart, be compassionate. figure out how to "deal" with your depressed self.

Also the common NPC advice goes like this "its okay to be sad" - this advice when fully understood (rarely by the person who parrots it) is actually useful. If you happen to not draw, accept that its okay to be sad on one hand, while feeling regret that you are too sad to draw on the other.

As someone with depression, basically everything in life is your enemy one way or another. Therefore it is extraordinarily important that at least you yourself are on your team.

>>6762183
That's very true. Negative reinforcement just straight up doesn't work. Its impossible to bully yourself into being a better person. Clockwork orange and all that.

What fucks me up the hardest is that i know a person who went from /beg/ to some sort of a master after an 80hour physical intensive drawing course while i'm stuck in permabeg since two years and do less than ten hours of work a week.
It really does make you want to not do anything when you compare it like that.

>>6762189
....then take the course?
And link it while you're at it.

>>6762190
>....then take the course?
its local, unless you happen to live in poland its not really accessible.
I could take the course but i've recently begun to go bald and i'm a social sperg either way. What it would culminate in would be a balding pencilneck loser showing up to produce the worst artwork known to human. I would surely be a laughing stock. I probably won't be able to learn it all on my own but that's preferable to becoming a subject of a seasonal cringe spergout video.

>>6762194
you amaze me, and not in a good way. Why do you care? Just..go sign up. If the course was a lie, then just stop responding. Anything's better than typing up that pathetic if true, sad if not drivel.

By all accounts having a little work-like social obligation to show up for my art practice would yearn massive benefits but the potential risks are far too high to seriously gamble with it.

>>6762196
>Why do you care?
98% of people care about how they are perceived by others. I'm not a retard for caring about that.
>Just..go sign up
Nah but i still do intend to get good at it. Just from inside of my own room, eventually.
> If the course was a lie
Was not. Maybe my ESL got it lost in translation but i mean like a summer practice held by a local university to which you show up daily for four weeks and you work under experienced certified teachers. The fee is just a hundred bucks too.

Today's 5 minute gestures. I struggled alot with thesee, I always confuse if I should 100% follow the first line of action I follow and then get confused when the proportions are off.

>>6762202
holy shit my english is in shambles after concentrating on drawing for so long fugg :D

>>6762206
yeas men)))) i always confuse when the 100% follow the first line i follow and then confuse when proportion is of bad
xaxaaxxaaxxaxa

its too hot to draw bros.... im ngmi

I tried to combine anime and oil painting and I don't think it went well

I tried to copy bridgMans Today for the second time. The bottom sketch is my first attempt. The second sketch to the right is my second attempt. I noticed that my hand became fatigued during the second attempt So I stopped.

>>6762202
the line of action is a guide, imo dont worry about drifting for it

>>6762189
honestly whats helped me the most is to stop trying to get good and just try to actually enjoy art. comparing your speed to other people is just so mentally draining idk. i try my best to deny and ignore talent, but like you say some people just seem to learn so easily. ive decided that art is something i do for myself and perhaps my art will never be the most popular, but im content with seeing myself get better day after day no matter how slow

Hello beg. With this the book is finished. Last chapter was about author showing how he typically works (copies photo lol with minor edits for better composition). Onto the next art book!

>>6762237
its just too dark
>>6762194
if you think normies will laught at you then you were probably raised by single mother or suffer some mental damage or just havent left basement for a long time. normies are all kinds of things, but they dont laugh at strangers. that is something only retarded highschool kids do
>>6762180
kinda beg and flat. btw what is avant garde architecture artist? are you one of thouse who squirt paint at canvas from their ass and call it art?
>>6762148
just pick any perspective book, they are all essentially about how to do backgrounds
>>6762127
>worthwhile to practice drawing from reference
that is quite the only worthwhile form of practice for begs. trying to draw anything without reference as a beg you are just cementing bad habits. more details in keys to drawing. reference is real life, photos or art from people who are BETTER than you at drawing
>>6762003
i kneel
>>6761928
booba
>>6761858
it is very hard to make solid unique art art. today it is my 354th piece and yet i have like 2 pieces i am actually semi proud of and only 1 of it is actually unique
>>6761844
loomis heads are always so goofy :-)
>>6761828
have you simply tried drawing?
>>6761798
ART
>>6761770
there are multiple correct postures. drawing horse, standing behind painting en plein air, drawing on small tablet...
>>6761745
doing good, feeling the form, drawing anime thots
>>6761784
you should pick up book or course and follow them (instead of relying on anons who have none to questionable credentials)
>>6761679
pretty cool and soulful
>>6761519
>>6761333
>>6761260
less thinking, more drawing
>>6761493
blending brush, smudge. it depends on what app you use
>>6761454
dont expect to be good in 1 week. have realistic expectations (1 year)
>>6761390
based. also consider using some pen(ink)

schizo scribbles

>>6762164
>>6762172
>>6762183
>>6761798
>>6762200
Carnivore diet (beef, water, salt to taste, and NOTHING ELSE, at least to start) has put my ~12-year-long suicidal depression into complete remission. Going on like 5 and a half years now. It helped immeasurably with other stuff, but the number one thing it did that’s made the biggest impact has been lifting my depression. If you’ve run out of things to try, give it a shot.

>>6762302
I'm interested in your way of learning, I visited your website and you started out really really beg like preschool kid beg but you improved really quickly. Do you just go through the books and copy literally everything in it and then go to the next?

>>6762332
I'm too poor for that, I can only eat oatmeal, bread and..eggs.

>>6762324

>>6760075

my gesture drawings dont feel like *gesture* drawings
i think it's because i am taking too much time for these, and using too many lines

>>6762159
thanks you very much! i tried putting your advice into practice but just ended up drawing some dumb shit
the mouth on the big loomishead absolutely stumped me and ended up wonky, but whatever. the drawing at the bottom is something i genuinely would not have been capable of just two days ago, so i'm pretty happy about that despite how abhorrent it is

tomorrow i'll have a look at the lessons you mentioned, though the marshall vandruff stuff seems a little daunting. there's over 6 hours of it and it appears you have to pay for it, so if you could point me to some more condensed version of it all then that'd be nice. either way, thanks a lot again

>>6762383
The /ic/ torrent has it. It looks like you’re having fun with your pencil, which is frankly the only thing that really counts in my opinion. :)
>>6751710

>>6762497
HOT

>>6762499
Left ankle looking a tad fat and left misaligned.

>>6762508
*right misaligned

day 15
so using tubes for limbs and balls for joints makes more sense
while /justdrawing/ i noticed that i can't draw fully contracted limbs, so i wanted to study that
I have to rethink what to do next
>>6762499
i don't like the way their faces overlap, making it seem like they fit together like jigsaw pieces

>>6760959
Filled the page. These are kinda fun.

>>6762497
Futa. My favorite.

anyone else trying to get more wobble and variation in their lines? I ended up going the draftsmenship autist route and all of my lines are too straight or perfectly curved. Now I have to hold my pen at the very end like 7 inches away from my tablet to get the wobbliness and organic lines back

Tried something new, no refs, all on one layer
didn't think I did that bad but I didn't like how it looked in a thumbnail. Why is that?
and yes, i tried flipping it but I don't see what was particularly wrong there

>>6762577
i dunno
I like it

>>6762570
Try some blind contour drawings, maybe? Get your hand used to what it feels like to be totally organic again.

Some of today’s practice. Slowly improving.

>>6762586
how do you construct your faces box man
they look good

>>6762593
Honestly I don’t have much of a set formula. It’s just trial an error and remembering things like where to shift the facial features when tilting the figure, and to always keep everything parallel. Also remembering little ratio and measurement things.

>>6762586
>>6762604
Fuck dude nice job

Someone tell me what to draw, please.
Im prebeg.

>>6762611
draw deku, 3/4 view head

>>6762611
Draw two men street boxing, under a grungy bridge, but one man has a fly for a head and the other has 7 eyes. Also there’s a ring girl with huge tits in a checkerboard bikini

>>6762612
I fucking hate anime
>>6762613
fuck you

>>6761472
thanks anon!

>>6762611
A cupboard, but all their doors are open

>>6762611
Draw a turtle smoking a cigar.

>>6762610
Cute. Try doing one in a different angle or showing more of the body, or making an expression. Make it a bit more challenging for yourself.

>>6762302
>google my handle, find my blog, check the FAQ :-). tldr: i wanna make a videogame for coomers
Hey man, thanks for answering. Are you planning to do a visual novel style of game or something with a more action based gameplay? I know it's a secret, just curious.
Anyways, good luck with that, an great work as usual.

>>6762614
draw my massive cock lying on your chest

>>6762611
draw a little bitch
if you have trouble, just look in the mirror for reference

>>6762647
I need a reference

>>6762652
you need a reference for massive cock because yours is tiny

>>6762611
draw an "X" across your wrists with a razor blade

I was experimenting with different styles. Left is what I'd normally do, right is referencing artists like KL and Peachmaiden (their earlier art from like the early 2010s and late 2000s). Any elements/traits from the right or the artists mentioned I can implement in my current style? I wanna simplify my art a bit

>>6762668
I’d say I like the left more. If you’re looking to simplify things, maybe just block your shadows into simpler shapes. You already understand that in shadows you don’t really need to draw detail, so I’d just go with that.

>>6762499
The girl's size looks off. Like she's slightly too big in all dimensions.

>>6762711
It's two ai images edited onto each other that's why

>>6762302
>if you think normies will laught at you then you were probably raised by single mother or suffer some mental damage
No doubt that's what normies want me to believe.
The difference between every chrischan and every normal person is that one crucial moment of self doubt and shame.
If you ignore all of those then have fun watching cringe documentaries about yourself in five years lmao.
I've already had people record me with their phones for laughs purely because of the way i look. Couple that with some sperg behaviour and i'm assured to be the next big laughing stock.

>>6762761
Nah man, Chrischan isn't a failed normie, she genuinely mentally disabled

>>6762761
you are sitting at home, not being ridiculed AND not drawing, what does that say about your "reason" to not take the art course?

>>6762761
I've seen and experienced it firsthand but the preconception of the society of tolerance is just a trap set out for autistic people. Everyone is tolerant of you so long as you arent actually meaningfully different from them. The moment you slip up even slightly its as though you just activated a bunch of sleeper agents whose primary objective is to fucj yoy up no matter the cost.

I have an autistic friend who learned how to behave socially by actual book knowledge. He read big books by psychologists on when to speak up, when its okay to cut someone off, how to x and y, z. Everyone from my circles knows he is autistic and people "love" him. But the moment he slips up for even a second or drops the masquarade its like you flipped a switch
People go from friends to genetic foes who are destined to battle him.

>>6762765
Probably that i'm just lazy and ngmi.
I've just woke up. I'll get to drawing in an hour at least. Won't have anything good to show for it because i'm literally making straight line sketch exercises.

>>6762764
>she
kys immediately

>>6762769
>woke
Woken

>>6761884
There's a lot of truth to that, unfortunately. I generally think people should be copying manga and not anime, unless it's illustrative anime art. You can take colors from anime but manga art is almost always going to be better.

>>6762156
This looks similar to art produced with the force method, which does take from vilppu

>>6762570
Go through early chapters of keys to drawing, it's pretty much all about that.

>>6760075

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiS2QW6Oeio

>>6762858
lmao you are OLD ahahahaha
fuck, so am i

requesting feedback on >>6762364 please

>>6762364
>>6762861
those are not gesture drawings
go watch proko's videos on gesture drawing and try again

Started drawing again at 28, I used to draw a lot in my early teens but lost interest. Transitioning from drawing buff male werewolves to pregnant foxes.

>>6762864
alright i will, thanks

>>6762668
That's really impressive. How did you learn to draw hair like that?

>>6762880

based preg enthusiast

Ok I admit. I can't learn the Vilppu bean from osmosis, seeing it in threads here. I need to read and watch.

todays 5 min gestures

which is the canonical way to start to learn how to draw? Loomis or right side or keys to drawing? I know how to copy and they usually come out decent(with some imperfections in perspective + proportion), but I want to know how to draw now.

What is the best (free) resource for learning oil pastels? Should I simply treat it as regular pastel, or paint? I want to be able to use this medium for fun and I want stg more than YouTube tricks and tips videos

>>6763020
new thread :3
>>6763020
>>6763020
>>6763020
>>6763020

>>6762976
i think the /trad/ general might be a better fit for this