/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6752938

>>6752944
With how this guy draws trannies compared to how he draws women I wouldn't be surprised if it came out that he had a fetish for ones that don't pass.

>>6752958
Right? I bet he'd fuck a spider

>>6752944
Should have gave "it" a boner in the last panel.

>>6752958
>>6752961
You guys are nuts (kek):the woman's so peaceful and sweet, lines are round and harmonious, colors are warm & comfy.

Captcha: VVVVSK

>>6752961
>>6752975
He's written entire arcs in his comic about how sex with women is bad and then draws trannies with their nuts hanging out getting boners all the time

>>6752975
The spider comment is in reference to the "you hate thing so you want to fuck thing" gay people exclusively cope with. Would you shoo away a spider? Why? Afraid you'll end up in bed together?

Hellsing, I need something that scratches the same itch but I haven't found it

>>6753012
No way fag

For being a 3 decades old manga, I must say that visually Gunnm holds up really well to the point it looks weirdly modern at times.

>>6753030
>holds up
lmao, do you really believe that art has IMPROVED these last 30 years? It peaked in the 80s and has been a sharp decline ever since.

>>6753233
no, it peaked in the Renaissance. Everything since then is degenerate filth.

>>6753233
Art ebbs and flows. It doesn't really improve or decrease, beyond certain historical trends like the understanding of the laws of light and perspective in Europe after the dark ages. The only difference is the style and quantity of good art, which has increased exponentially as people have access to tools and resources, which the internet provides easily. Pound for pound, person for person, the average individual is more skilled in art now than anyone in the history of human kind. You don't have to LIKE the art of the modern day, but if you can't find art created recently that you like, you're likely blind, and it's pretty impressive that you still visit IC even after you lost your sight. Respect.

The time when art was best is probably right around when you were a teenager, because that's when you weren't good enough to notice the flaws while still being good enough to appreciate the quality. In fact, I wager you were 12.

>>6753322
nta but you’re projecting. Drawings got worse over the last 20 years because cheap digital tools went mainstream and enable less-skilled artists to complete and distribute their projects

>>6753322
"It's just nostalgia!!!" is midwit take, go back to school

>>6752938
>:)

>>6753358
Yeah, the average drawing got worse, because more people are capable of drawing than before, rather than it being only people who were basically trained from their teenage years and dedicated a good chunk of their entire education to it, and then people who couldn't draw, period. This is a good thing. After all, otherwise, you wouldn't be able to draw.

>>6752944
>feminist simp blames feminist consequences on corporations and men
I honestly don't know how a man can be an adult and be left at the same time, they are mutually exclusive.

>>6753518
I don't know how a man can be an adult and be a peerage dupe at the same time. Must be all the fluoride in your water.

>>6753536
It's simple, there are certain values and way of being that are masculine that are not compatible with leftist thinking which are more feminine and emotional in nature.

The One Punch Man webcomic may look like shit, but it has its moments. Pic rel is one of my favorites.

dandadan has some very nice panels

>>6753675

>>6753518
Social liberalism? Sure. Fiscal leftism? Nah.

Always liked how the Japanese convey motion.

>>6752958
This is usually the case, because otherwise why even put in so much time and effort into something like this on a whole. It's weird otherwise.

>>6753675
>>6753677
I really love his work and storytelling. It's just so good.

I made this one
Is it interesting enough for you, anons

>>6754327
looks good but a bit predictable, kid is about to block it with his super unexpected superpowers and is about to fight against whoever launched that thing, eh

>>6754330
totally not, %100
kid is going to be in the hospital it's going to be a silly joke

My personal favourite is pic rel
it speaks to me on a spiritual level

this man made kino before he was forced to milk dragonball
he sold his soul for complete mid-wit appeal dominance

>>6753001
Have you read any of Drifters?

>>6754619
for the fat stacks he made, you would do it too faggot

>>6754624
i know but its still a massive fucking loss to the world me thinks
you can sense it in his earlier interviews he really wasn''t expecting to take off like it did then had to keep the shit in life support through retarded power leveling
he became a one hit wonder

>>6754629
I heard mangaka say the same thing about Otomo, that Akira was one of his weaker works but since it appealed so hard to the masses it pigeonholed him into just being the Akira guy.

>>6754629
2 hit? dragon quest? idk how you want to count 'hits'

>>6754299
I like what they are trying to do, but I despise how they drew the figures and background. Especially, when an artist like Yusuke Murata can do something like that and make it way more dynamic without making look like the figures are made of silly putty.

It really irks me.

>>6752994
TIL.

That's very similar to Freud's "if thing looks like a stick, then it's an unconscious metaphor for a dick".

>>6752991
I don't know the guy, you'd have to provide me with more context to agree. He could very well be drawing a line (kek) between lust/random sex with random girls and "making love" or something

>>6753679
Based choujinbro. ishida is a beast for doing this shit with literally no assistants.

>>6753030
>held up
Anon, most manga artists of the 80s would heem current modern day manga artists

>>6753322
>the average individual is more skilled in art now
>in an age where most artists rely on digital crutches to even do the simplest of things like stippling and most rarely know the basics
>more skilled
No. The artist's of yesteryear were far more capable than current day artists because they had zero to no crutches to rely on when compared to the scale of today. Not to mention most manga artists of the day were classically trained or self taught themselves the fundies to the point you couldn't tell they weren't. Tsukasa Hojo is an excellent benchmark to compare in how hard the standards have fallen since then

>>6754605
I think about this comic at least once a month

>>6753675
Dude is underrated, hope the anime gets him the success he deserves

>>6753001
Try Vagabond.

>>6752938
I never understood why the yu yu hakusho manga was so bad, the anime was good, but the manga is fucking poorly done in terms of drawing, something similar to what happens with elfen lied

>>6752944
poor baby will die malnourished and stuck with a ball of hair in his throat

>>6753024
heh
i need to get a grip and change my life

>>6752938

>>6753675
Why is the shading so similar to that of Fire Punch

Art.

>>6753001
Keyman

>>6752938
>Storytelling and compositions like comic/manga panelling and pages are the true test of an artist's worth.
Not a single image here besides >>6758215 did anything particularly interesting with its page/panel layout, even then, the continuous stairway is actually pretty common in comics.

That said, playing around with page layouts, while cool, can often distract or break the flow of the comic. A lot of western comics do "cool shit" with their layouts on every page, but are worse off for it than another comic that plays it completely safe.

>>6758155
>why was the YYH manga's art so all over the place

>>6754620
>Drifter
I have looked into it once or twice, I am looking at it now. I'm not very captivated by the characters or the premise, but purely in terms of the art I feel like Hirano-pose (distorted limbs, glowing mad crazy eyes) works really well for supernatural creatures but a lot less well when applied to any mortal.

>>6752992
Which page of Bastard is this?

>>6754299
Great one unironically.

>>6758565
Kino. Is it bleach?

>>6756291
Look up Sinfest, its a trip

>it's all Japanese cartoons
unsurprising, but was hoping for more

>>6761165
Well, make a thread about it you fuck.
Op implies to post a PANELS- manga or comics panels. Create painterly art thread right now.

>>6754327
Very nice, but I think that the last panel doesn't really read well. It took me a while to figure out that it was a birds eye view. You should change it into a one point perspective with the character in front of the meteorite, pose the character side view and make him not notice the meteorite, ad bunch of speed lines and you have a great page.

>>6754330
>>6761305
well, here's part 2
It truly was a stupid dad joke all along

>>6758652
Thanks, the art style definitely doesn't skratch the itch just from using heavy inking (except when drawing hot babes). Some of the art was masterfully drawn and some was a bit too messy for my taste but it was still a cool recommendation

>>6754605
What is this? Sauce?

>>6752938
Digital colouring and glossy pages have ruined colour

I love the CARtooning in this panel.

>>6767368
FUCK I posted the wrong panel. I like that one, but here's the one my pun makes sense for.

>>6767372
CHADiyama's OPUS.

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>>6767378
This is like being asked what your favourite band is and saying Katy Perry or Pitbull

>>6761967
Thank, I love it.

>>6752938
Not favourite or anything but some old and 2000s Marvel artists are really great.

>>6767386
Except toriyama isn't any of these.

>>6767407
Generic panels, what am i missing?

>>6767413
A brain.

>>6767386
Are u retarded or just an extreme hater? JFC

>>6767416
>>6767415
Rude and(or) underage, i asked without hate or anything. Daddy issues? Or are just a funny troll?

>>6767386
This is a "post your favorite panels" thread, not a shit on artists you don't like and bicker thread.

I hate Toriyama's artstyle more than almost any other art style but I can still appreciate the quality of motion and impact that his panels have.

Be generative. Post better shit, don't try to tear people down for having taste different than yours.

>>6767430
>not a shit on artists you don't like and bicker thread.
Where did he or i shat on it?
>Be generative. Post better shit, don't try to tear people down for having taste different than yours.
>>6767415
>>6767416
samefag

>>6767430
A thread where people's tastes are on display is going to generate conversation. The motion lines are good, it's also the equivalent, in my opinion, of being asked what your favourite piece of art is and saying the McDonalds Arches. Anon has an incredibly pop-y, undeveloped taste

>>6767441
So because le popular thing = invalid and generic in your opinion? Because it's popular?

>>6758273
This guy was one of Fujimoto's assistants

I liked this dream sequence in desuge imouto

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>>6767444
Comics and manga are already pop art. One of the most commercial products of that genre has mass appeal because in part, yes, it is generic. I dont get why you are acting like its a radical statement to say Dragon Ball basic. \__,",__/

>>6767460
Because you are using a fallacy.
End of discussion.

>>6767386
>he says this while posting spiderman

Don't feed the trolls

>>6767470
I thought it was metamorphosis

Go Nagai

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>>6767463
>end of discussion

Ok anon, all art is of equal value and no differing opinions in YOUR thread. btw did your application for a janny not get accepted?

Wallace Wood

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>>6767492
Are you seriously doubling down?

>>6767504
The fact you don't give your opinion and end a conversation about taste with "end of discussion", makes you sound like a power tripping, unsufferable cunt

>>6767510
The fact that you can't look past your hasty interpretations of my arguments makes you sound like sound like a straw-manning condescending ESL cunt.

>>6767517
Haha, you clearly have no arguements, just a reddit brain dictated by "facts and logic"

Go back

>>6754605
What is the name?

>>6761111
Yes
>>6767522
You must be fun at parties
>>6767561
The only manga that has ever caught me off guard

1.Thread tittled "Your Favorite Panels" on a niche-weirdo geek website.

2. Several people post Dragon Ball panels in said thread.

3. A dude gets mad because the series is "popular".


4. Clearly has ignored the title of the thread, the myriad of posts, and thusly has ignored Why the series might be popular.

Nothing can be popular and/because
it's good, apparently. Of course unless they like it, I'm only going to assume.

From Usagi Yojimbo.

>>6752938
It's crazy how the internet collectively gaslit themselves into thinking that Hunter X Hunter has bad artwork

>>6769288
Togashi really has it sometimes.

>>6769288
I think most people have problems with how inconsistent the artwork is in Hunter x Hunter. It can look like your pic, but other times it can look like pic related. Togashi has health problems that apparently prevent him from doing his best work. I've heard that a lot of the unfinished pages from the weekly publication were fixed when they were released in the volumes. With the context of everything, I think it's crazy to use Togashi's worst panels to say that he's a terrible artist.

>>6769335
He kinda does it on purpose tho, doesn`t he? He uses "bad" art when it doesn`t need to be good. I mean if scene needs this wow effect, he goes all in, if it`s some unimportant stuff like you posted he goes One on it. Yeah, even One kinda does it.
I actually like this trick.

>>6769335
Is there important panels that are "bad"?

>>6769335
The thing is is that 90% of the pics people cherry-pick as examples were already fixed for the volume releases (your pic related is one of like two chapters that haven't had gotten that treatment). And even at his worst his work is still easily readable and flows nicely, which is something that even some pros working at their peak can't boast. And like what you pretty much said the lows of the series don't come close to outweighing the highs.
It's just wild to me how there are vehement fans of the series who've refused to catch up on like a season's worth of material because of 2 chapters of sub-par artwork (which are mostly dialogue anyway)

>>6769346
That would be a good idea, but sometimes his priorities don't seem right. In this page, why did he feel the need to add so much detail to the turkey, while leaving everything else so sketchy? I don't understand why he doesn't hire assistants to help with the unimportant scenes, if he's going to phone them in anyways. It's worth noting that this page was fixed for the volume release.

Just remembering YKK chokes me up a bit

On a more personal level, it makes me really want to create a work that can move a reader like YKK moved me

>>6769346
>>6769407

Apparently, Togashi was a "Cut corners" kind of guy even before his back problems got really bad. Like, dating back to the Dark Tournament arc of YYH he would do "Good enough" for some panels and pages and wouldn't let his assistants touch them up.

He's had the back issues since YYH but then they kicked in high when he started doing HxH so even his usual corner cutting just ended up having pages that needed to be touched up in the volume release.

>>6769896
He's always had a, let's say, "minimalistic" approach. I'm really into it, but sometimes it goes too far.

>>6769896
he has his priorities right too. He pretty much maxxed out dramatic writing, shortchanging the art. Imagine what he could've done as a screenwriter / director

>>6769407
>I don't understand why he doesn't hire assistants to help with the unimportant scenes, if he's going to phone them in anyways
He did, and does. HxH has been ongoing for decades. Some of that time I can imagine he simply did not feel like working with assistants. Having worked with assistants myself, I can see why. It's a different kind of skill from drawing, and I can empathize with somebody who'd rather do it themselves, even if the end result is spotty. It's simply far more mental effort to have to direct people to do something when you know in your head what you want it to be and could do it yourself. Don't get me wrong, to call using assistants or not doing so "lazy" would be comically off-mark.

>>6753030
Kishiro is amazing. I love the ongoing Mars stuff too.