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Thoughts?

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/us-judge-finds-flaws-artists-lawsuit-against-ai-companies-2023-07-19/

>> No.6753119

>>6753116
Weak argument since the possibility that they are involved should me enough. Doesn’t matter though. Judge is judging the number in their bank account after their decision.

>> No.6753126

>>6753119
It shouldn't be enough. All this copyright stuff is ridiculous because AI is fundamentally just using references and learning to do things, just like any of us. It's not exactly the same but at a fundamental level it is. Why the hell should it be illegal to use a tool to help you do something you could do with enough work?
>b-b-but it's too easy
Absolutely retarded argument.

Japan had it right by judging only the outputs in terms of infringement, they're treating the models/tools no different than they treat the pencil.

>> No.6753137

>>6753126
It’s not learning because it’s not actually AI. Plus, that’s not the argument being made by the judge here, the judge is arguing that the system doesn’t use the artists original images, which is objectively false which is evident by the signiagures that pop up. If it were intelligent, it wouldn’t be copying signatures.

>> No.6753141

>>6753137
It objectively is learning, it's called machine learning. You give it something and it learns from it, then it can do things based on that data. It's not a copy pasting machine, it learns concepts and can use those to create art of virtually any kind.
>the judge is arguing that the system doesn’t use the artists original images
Which is true. It learns concepts. Signatures are a concept, you'll pretty much never see it rendered 1:1 with the real thing, the exceptions being maybe gettyimages or the patreon stamp because there are so many of those that it understands the concept very well.
>If it were intelligent, it wouldn’t be copying signatures.
If you put "signatures" in the negative prompt it won't use them. So I guess it is pretty smart eh?

>> No.6753142

>>6753116
/ai/ general

>> No.6753146

>>6753141
So if that’s the case, Getty Images doesn’t have an argument either? Do you think their complaints are just going to be thrown out because it’s “learning”.

>> No.6753148

>>6753146
I don't think they do since again it's just learning concepts from the images(like we do, which is legal obviously) but we'll see, that's an entirely different case.

>> No.6753156

Your computer isn't a human being. You do yourself no favours treating ai like one. It doesn't """learn"""" anything.

>> No.6753158

>>6753148
Again “learning”.

>> No.6753160

>>6753158
Yes that's the technical term.

>> No.6753168

>>6753160
You mean marketing buzzword, just like “AI”.

>> No.6753169

>>6753168
No, it's just the technical term. You're just a sore loser trying to make a semantics argument.

>> No.6753171

>>6753116
We won AIsisters

>> No.6753172

>>6753119
>Judge is judging the number in their bank account after their decision.

This is what poorfag artists don't get. Laws are bullshit and money is all that matters. This whole suit was a waste of time from the get go. SAG/WAG on the other hand will have tangible results against AI slop.

>> No.6753177

>>6753172
I mean we’re all marching towards the capitalist end goal of living in pods and eating bugs while working 7 days a week. The AI fags just don’t realize that they’re on the poorfag side of things. Old money wins, new money crumbles.

>> No.6753178

>>6753126
>AI is fundamentally just using references and learning to do things, just like any of us
>still treats AI like it's sentient
Kill yourself you retarded shill.

>> No.6753181

>>6753172
>SAG/WAG on the other hand will have tangible results against AI slop.
You are absolutely naive.

>> No.6753182

>>6753178
I didn't say it was sentient, it's a computer program we programmed in a way in which it's able to learn. All sorts of things. In order to do tasks for us.
Just like we build instruments to play notes, we taught a computer to learn and reproduce things for us. It's a tool.

>> No.6753184

>>6753182
“We”

>> No.6753185

>>6753184
Humanity.

>> No.6753192

>>6753116
Also says that her case is unlikely to be dismissed, so at the very least it's going all the way through and there appears to be no major problem with the lawsuit despite his statements (unless I'm misunderstanding).

>> No.6753193

>>6753185
Imagine taking credit for work you didn’t personally do. This is the difference between the AI fag and someone with integrity.

>> No.6753194

>>6753193
I didn't take any credit you illiterate retard.

>> No.6753197
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6753197

>>6753181
>You are absolutely naive.

Whatever helps you sleep at night AIshill.

>> No.6753199

>>6753194
You said “we”. Silicon Valley created the tech. You didn’t do shit. The correct word is “they” in that scenario, you illiterate retard.

>> No.6753201

>>6753197
There's no argument to be made there, that's why they're on strike. Even if they get those companies to bend over, new ones will pop up eventually and put those companies and their union mafiosos out of work regardless.

>> No.6753203 [DELETED] 

>>6753199
I guess you're an ESL that doesn't understand speaking on behalf of the race you belong to. People make tools and this is a tool we have made. Or better yet, you're a sub-human and have taken offense to the productivity and intelligence of mankind.

>> No.6753206

>>6753141
Just because you stack algorithms on top of algorithms doesn't change the fundamental reality of the situation. It's an image interpolation/data laundering software.

>> No.6753207

>>6753206
And that's okay. It's a useful tool to increase productivity and creativity. There's nothing illegal about it.

>> No.6753218

>>6753203
Nope, I’m as white as they come. Using your race is just a cope for losers who need a reason to convince themselves not to kill themseves. “I’m not a loser! My people invented the car and went to the moon.” Yes, they did, but what have you done to stand amongst them, or are you some loser weighing their race down. Latching on to the identity like a parasite, lowering its quality with your presence. Real men strive for personal achievement and self improvement. Cowards cling to the achievements of others. We remember Michaelangelo and Da Vinci, not the man who believes he’s great because he looks similar.

>> No.6753219

toolfag lol

>> No.6753225

>>6753218
Funny that you don't even realize how incredibly pathetic you are. After this chimp out will you please explain what's wrong with saying that humans made tools?

>> No.6753226

>>6753207
>There's nothing illegal about it.
Let's imagine SD only trained on one artist, them alone. Then released a for profit website to generate interpolations from just that data, and told it's users they can monetise the results too. This is illegal, yes? Have you actually read the fair use laws or am I talking to a knuckle dragging buffoon? Do you know the 4(+5th unofficial) criteria judges use to evaluate those cases?

>> No.6753229

>>6753226
You're talking to a troll/shill, probably the same person who made this thread.

>> No.6753230

(* ^ ω ^)
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>> No.6753231

>>6753226
You're the kind of person that wants to ban all fan art, ban all derivative works like anime and cartoons and genres of video games and send those pesky tracing children into the gulag. Sorry but we're a species that learns from and mimics one another. AI is just another tool to do it but we've used plenty in our history.

>> No.6753235
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6753235

>>6753116
>"artists must be required to make clear statements and provide more facts"
It's fucking over.
Unironically fucking over.
AIfags are gonna win because artists can't be reasonable and intelligent people that argue with facts and logic, let alone be able to provide clear legal statements and build a case.

Good fucking god it's fucking over.

>> No.6753236

>>6753235
and that's a good thing

>> No.6753242

(─‿‿─)

>> No.6753243

>>6753225
Would you consider all tools good? “Good” in this situation meaning “beneficial to humanity” and not “contributing to the collapse of society under those who hoard wealth”

>> No.6753244

>>6753243
Yes and society will improve thanks to AI.

>> No.6753247

>>6753243
Though since you seem like a pedantic cunt I will say that as long as a tool has a use case where it helps then yes it's good. There are some useless tools out there.

>> No.6753248

i wonder what the ctrl + f count for tool will be by the time this thread is over

>> No.6753249
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6753249

>>6753236
if you're an already established artist with a huge following that will slowly wither as more and more normies learn of AI and see nothing wrong with it

Any aspiring artist is fucked
Because artists can't use a single brain cell and can only argue with their feefees

omg don't we already have enough mediocre art, now we will have mediocre ai generated art?
It's absolutely, undeniably, irredeemably, irreversibly fucking over

>> No.6753251

>>6753249
⸜(⸝⸝⸝´꒳`⸝⸝⸝)⸝

>> No.6753252

>>6753249
reddit spacing.

>> No.6753253

>>6753249
I think AI already has boosted the quality of our art and it will only get better.

>> No.6753254

>>6753231
>He didn't answer the question on fair use
Ah so you talk from your ass.
I think the fair use laws, are fair enough, nothing you said applies to me.

>> No.6753257

>>6753254
Is civitai outlawed? No? Is there any case against it? No? Then it's fair use, yes.

>> No.6753258

>>6753244
The dialogue around “useless eaters” has already spread. The propoganda is out there. AI will not only automate art, but also basically any job that uses a computer. Do you expect the select few powerful families remaining to just let these people live. No, your descendants (on the off chance you ever have any) will either be culled or sent to mine materials to build more machines. This will be the legacy of the white race under AI. Death and poverty.

>> No.6753259

>>6753253
Examples? I never saw anyhing better than before we had ai.

>> No.6753260
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6753260

>>6753252
that's not reddit spacing retard, stop being a retarded parrot

>> No.6753261

>>6753258
>poltard paranoia
No one is out to get you.

>> No.6753265

>>6753259
We've seen the art of millions of new AI artists and a lot of it is good plus established artists have been using it to good effect. I didn't say it was making entirely better art than what came previously, but it is making new art from new artists.

>> No.6753268

>>6753261
So after automation, you expect the elite will feel charitable for the first time in their lives and allow something like a UBI? Do you think the wife get to their position of power through their kindness?

>> No.6753270

>>6753268
I'm not interested in talking to an illogical schizo doomer about the future.

>> No.6753271

>>6753257
Hahaha. Just. Read. The. Fair. Use. Laws. Now. 4 main factors. One 5th factor. Don't comeback to this thread until you KNOW. Civitai doesn't monetize afaik, what do you think would happen if they charged 10 bucks for x artists style?

>> No.6753274

⸜(*ˊᗜˋ*)⸝

>> No.6753276

>>6753271
>Civitai doesn't monetize afaik
It does and they have. There are other sites too such as patreon that host such transactions.

>> No.6753278

>>6753265
Ok so when you said what you said, you didn't mean it. Great.

>> No.6753279

>>6753270
Explain what you think will happen in the long term. Go ahead.

>> No.6753281
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6753281

>>6753251
>>6753252
>>6753253
270k Dollars down the fucking drain
270 thousand dollars and they couldn't even get one lawyer to build a fucking case
$270.000 and they still couldn't explain that AI image generation is just an automatic photoshop that couldn't build a single coherent image if it wasn't fed copyrighted material, thus it falls under plagiarism since it doesn't and can't create something original.


Boy, it is over.

>> No.6753283

>>6753278
I did mean it. More artists making lots of good stuff boosts the quality of the art we're producing.

>> No.6753285

>>6753281
(. ᴗ .)

>> No.6753286

>>6753276
I just looked, it's free. They don't sell artist styles. They are making money from donations though, could be a problem but I don't know for sure.

>> No.6753291

>>6753286
They have early access systems.

>> No.6753292

>>6753281
The only solace I take is that some of the engineers of this tech will die in poverty as this tech inevitably automates themselves out of their own job.

>> No.6753296

(≧◡≦)

>> No.6753300

>>6753292
why would you want them to die

>> No.6753301

>>6753225
whether you have a problem with the semantics argument or not, there's nothing pathetic about trying to be good at something anon.

I also think it's a bit shifty to be claiming that current AI learns. Maybe you really are just gullible or something but that's not the case and when you say stuff like that it makes you look like a bad troll or a fool.

>> No.6753303

>>6753291
SUE SUE SUE. THOSE THIEVING TECHTARDS WILL PAY

>> No.6753304

>>6753283
No it doesn't? More thing!=higher quality. The bar was not raised, the best artists are still leagues above the best ai images. By this
>AI already has boosted the quality of our art
You meant instead, the quantity of polished/rendered images with ok faces is higher, therefore the overall "art space" is higher quality. Which sounds pretty silly to me.

>> No.6753305

>>6753301
It's called machine learning. It's a machine that can learn. And I called you pathetic for other reasons not because you're trying to be good at something.

>>6753303
>you wouldn't steal a jpeg

>> No.6753306

>>6753291
Ok, I'm gonna sue them. Better download as many cptks as you can, it's going down.

>> No.6753307

>>6753304
>More thing!=higher quality
More thing of a high quality would increase the average quality. Even bad AI art is better than most human made art.

>> No.6753309

>>6753307
I have 1 million copies of bougereaus work on my hdd, the average quality of my saved art is so high baby!

>> No.6753313

>>6753300
I believe that those that work to uplift humanity should be rewarded and those who work against its best interest should be punished. Through most of history, we would kill a sociopath after they fucked over enough people. If the plan is to automate all jobs so that the average person can live a free life in a house with enough assets to raise and support a happy and healthy family, then automation should be rewarded. It the end goal is vast poverty and destitution for the masses, then it should be punished.

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6753315

>>6753126
>b-buh it's actually u-um using references and learning just like a real human bean
No it's not.
All it does is reproduce the images that it's trained on and associate them with keywords. Everything that image generation algorithms generate are interpolations between and rearrangements of trained images. It is, at best, an automated photobasher.
>u-um it's not photobashing
Explain picrelated then.

>> No.6753316

>>6753305
I'm not the one you called pathetic, I just thought you were being silly and rude.

>> No.6753318

>>6753309
There are armies of men out there who have produced nothing but pretty pictures for the past 9 months and I have a suspicion that you haven't.

>> No.6753319

>>6753315
umm.. um… it’s just different okay!!

>> No.6753321

>>6753313
Creating AI is the most important thing humanity has ever done and the idea that they're doing it to make people suffer makes literally no sense. It's so we don't have to suffer(work).

>> No.6753324

>>6753321
You won’t work, but you will suffer. AI could be a great benefit to the world, hey, but that depends on how the value it produces is distributed, and current trends do not point toward charity. Destroying the world through ignorance is still destroying the word.

>> No.6753325

>>6753316
He implied I was clinging to the achievements of others which was just ad hominem. I didn't say anything of the sort, I simply stated facts since he was misunderstanding. I'm not being silly and my retort was warranted.

>> No.6753326

>>6753305
I bet you think neural networks work just like actual neurons do, fucking retard non-human AI drone

>> No.6753327
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6753327

>>6753315
And while you're at it, explain why image generations of Bloodborne prompts just cut and paste John Bloodborne From The Hit FromSoft™ Video Game Bloodborne™'s cover over and over again.
Want me to keep going? Or are you going to leave and quit spouting this obviously false shill talking point?

>> No.6753328

>>6753326
What are neural networks based on?

>> No.6753330

>>6753325
You literally said that you were speaking for your race, which is extreme faggotry.

>> No.6753332

>>6753330
I didn't say anything about race.

>> No.6753334

>>6753325
You are being silly, a football isn't a ball made of feet is it.
You're putting way too much faith in what other people are saying AI and machine learning is and not enough thought into how it actually functions and what it requires to do so.

>> No.6753336

>>6753332
See >>6753203 if this is not you, it is the company you keep.

>> No.6753338
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6753338

>>6753285
>>6753292
Anyway, look at this cool fish i drew

>> No.6753341

>>6753338
I bet that light tastes good.

>> No.6753342
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6753342

>this whole thread
NONE OF YOU PROMPTS
LET ALONE DRAW

>> No.6753344

>>6753342
>>6753338
i literally drew this

>> No.6753347

>>6753328
They are *inspired by* neurons. They are not, however, in any way analogous to actual neurons and actual brains.
If that were so, we would have a true artificial general intelligence. What we actually have are algorithms that configure themselves through sheer brute force probability calculation. They don't "learn" in any truly meaningful sense of the word.

>> No.6753356

>>6753318
I was in the beta for sd, 10k+ images. I'm part of the problem. Sometimes when I Google an artist I see shit I prompted last year. Whoops. I didn't know sites were gonna scrape the discord and re-up all the images.

>> No.6753357
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6753357

>>6753344
>>6753338
:)

>> No.6753361
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6753361

>>6753342
I draw every day

>> No.6753369

>>6753342
When someone is wrong on the internet, about a narrow field I'm an expert in, i just go crazy alright?

>> No.6753373

How are there 99 posts in this completely non art related thread in 2 hours
If you're an artist who gives even half a shit about AI, you're unskilled trash
Good art involves composition, which ai can't learn because 90% of the art it consumes has no meaningful composition so it has nothing to copy from
If all you draw is anime girls on a white background then yeah you should be worried

>> No.6753375

>>6753373
I just throw hatching and screentone into my art. Ai can’t do screentone and it’s hatching is ugly as hell.

>> No.6753401

>>6753116
In order to use Midjourney users are required to pay 10 bucks a month, how is an artist like Greg Rutkowski "unlikely to succeed" on the claim that a system that used his name in the prompts hundreds of thousands of times violated his copyrights?

>> No.6753406

>>6753401
Because the judge got a bribe.

>> No.6753407

>>6753401
His style isn't even properly reproduced for starters. Prompting his name is a meme just like "masterpiece, best quality", fluff words.

>> No.6753410

>>6753406
The suing side is the one that has all the money though.

>> No.6753421

>>6753126
Sir please develop a skill or even better kill your self.

>> No.6753422

( ◕▿◕ )

>> No.6753424

>>6753421
Everyone has skills.

>> No.6753430

>>6753373
>Work harder, let the AI predate your work and be a cuck.

>> No.6753431

>>6753373
I myself am not concerned about it being a real threat. All it does is essentially photobash, the only thing it's good for is ripping people off. AIggers are all scumsucking, bottomfeeding bug people. The reason I posted >>6753315 and >>6753327 is because everything that the AI shills have is predicated on the belief that their meme machines actually "learn" and that they can actually "create" art like a human does, and dispelling this illusion demoralizes them and cripples any argument that they can make for machine learning algorithms being "tools", or generated images not being copyright infringement.
I'm crabbing for great justice. They will not escape this bucket.

>> No.6753432

>>6753410
>more money than Silicon Valley
Okay

>> No.6753434

6753431
I'll never stop laughing at this kind of desperation

>> No.6753437

>>6753327
> out of nowhere a Taylor Swift rendered in a style that barely looks Bloodborne related
lol

>> No.6753439

>>6753431
It’s also true that AI retards are only in it for the little dopamine rush. They eventually get bored. They don’t have the capacity to commit to something long term. You see it everywhere where techbros get bored because they aren’t getting the attention they wanted. The only things that get traction anymore is “Look at this villain for each State” brainlet bullshit.

>> No.6753440

>>6753424
Everyone is a woman.

>> No.6753442

>>6753439
Post your work.

>> No.6753445

(^▽^)

>> No.6753451

I don't want to open a new thread for this. Is social media being affected by this AI thing? I don't use it so I don't know. But the first thing artists should do is to stop uploading, tagging, and rating stuff online. Is free training for the tech corps.

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6753459

6753434
Refute it then. If you can act so cocky and self assured that means (You) surely have the means to do so. Right?

>> No.6753466
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6753466

I literally want to fucking strangle each and every one of you pathetic faggots. AI is not going to tale over art. The faggots who use AI will be separated from the people who actually draw and will be bullied and gaslit out accordingly.
Youre just looking for yet another bullshit excuse not to fucking draw because you dont actually love it. Youre all dumb validation chasing retards.

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6753469

>>6753466
Even if you are right, letting other to exploit and parasite your work is like letting others to fuck your wife. It basically makes you a cuck.

>> No.6753470

>>6753451
It's useless when niggers on danbooru tag your art on their own. Only solution is to send them a DMCA ASAP

>> No.6753474

>>6753451
Most people is stupid, all thechfaggs are still using microsoft's github. I can't believe how naive they are.

>> No.6753476

>>6753474
>Most people is stupid
>thechfaggs

>> No.6753477

>>6753451
A nice idea in theory but in reality data sets are built by having clickworkers tag things for peanuts.

It's actually kind of shocking how much machine learning is dependant on the smoke and mirrors of warehouses full of people doing tedious and nonsensical tasks. That's how stupid AI actually is right now, it needs thousands of people from developing countries to tell it what plaid is thousands of times and it will still inevitably get it wrong.

https://www.theverge.com/features/23764584/ai-artificial-intelligence-data-notation-labor-scale-surge-remotasks-openai-chatbots

>> No.6753478
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6753478

>>6753442
Did this one for another thread with a little extra work put in.

>> No.6753484

>>6753477
I get it, still I would like to see a massive flee from deviantart or whatever AI friendly platform.

>> No.6753487

>>6753477
So the A in AI stands for African.

>> No.6753498

>>6753321
How are you just waiving the elephant in the room that is the system we have in place that seeks to further ensure the rich stay rich and widen the gap between everyone else? We're literally heading to a world where hours aren't reduced for work for ai, people are going to lose jobs in waves in every field. It makes no sense to speak of what ifs of not having to work when we live in reality

>> No.6753503

>>6753466
You're not wrong, but at the same time the sheer ignorance and stupidity from these techbros kind of need to be tempered and shut down, it's just getting ridiculous now

>> No.6753508

>>6753498
The believe in meritocracy is ingrained deep within the mind of the techbro. They believe that people get to where they are based on their work, and not through nepotism. Would a merit based society be great? Could be, but it’s definitely not the world we live in.

>> No.6753509

>>6753116
Even in the worst case scenario, Sarah Anderson's claims will survive and it seems likely to reverse the wave of lora's as well for established artists if courts rule in favor and deem it copyright infringement. Pretty great honestly

>> No.6753510

>>6753508
I just find it so hard to believe how ignorant you can be to not realize this fantasy of moving towards a society of not working because of AI is one of the dumbest things i've ever read or heard. There's no paradigm shift to enable that kind of future ever in the near future because the people in power will never let that happen. Especially when they've got retard techbros like this guy licking their boots

>> No.6753515

>>6753510
Techbros generally don’t have a strong view of reality. They’re sheep that herd around the next big thing. Look at any successful guy to come out of Silicon Valley. After creating some app that automates thousands of jobs into obsolescence. They get into hippy shit. They start believing they can eat sunlight and suck out bad vibes with hot cups on their back. They develop very cult like behavior.

>> No.6753519

>>6753477
>>6753487
This is just foundational work. Image diffusion is just a happy accident but the idea is teaching a computer to tag stuff on its own which it has been doing for a while now, thanks to RLHF. We've already entered into the singularity, it's just the slow beginning of it.

>> No.6753521

>>6753515
indeed, plus they have some sick selfsteem problems.

https://nypost.com/2022/09/16/tech-workers-getting-leg-lengthening-surgery-that-costs-up-to-150k-report/

>> No.6753524

>>6753498
Are the rich no longer going to get rich if we somehow manage to hold back technology? Technology that benefits us all? What are you even trying to say here?

>> No.6753525
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>>6753524
> benefits us all
lol

>> No.6753526

>>6753525
Yes.

>> No.6753528

>>6753524
You know what benefits people? Getting money because they perform a valuable task. You know what doesn’t benefit people, unemployment and poverty.

>> No.6753531

>>6753528
Do you know what benefits humanity more than that? Not having to pay for valuable tasks.

>> No.6753533

>>6753531
That leads to mass poverty.

>> No.6753537

>>6753533
And the world will keep turning regardless. It does not matter if someone with a useless skill has a job or not, they'll either die or find something else to do.

>> No.6753543

>>6753537
Yeah man, mass poverty is great for humanity. When all the people that use a computer in their work are fired and sent to the slums, humanity will finally be in utopia. What a bright and kind future you believe in.

>> No.6753544
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>>6753531
During industrial revolution you would've been some of those faggots happy while being expelled of their land to be chained into a factory.

>> No.6753546

>>6753543
Lord knows why you're implying society won't ever change.

>>6753544
>everyone was negatively affected by a great advancement in humanity!!!!
Uh no.

>> No.6753547

>>6753544
Now this is progress. Fuck the new deal for allowing these people to live in houses and raise families.

>> No.6753548

>>6753524
Benefits us all? The fuck kind of world do you live in when there are actual people losing their livelihoods, not just creatives but actual real people and widening the gap at the same time for corporations that are already rich. I wouldn't care if the technology actually helped by adding, not by reducing,

>> No.6753550

>>6753548
The kind of person who can understand that people adapt and don't simply drop dead the moment they get laid off by something that can do their work for them, meaning society can now foster greater comfort and freedom.
The kind of person that isn't a mentally retarded doomer.

>> No.6753551

>>6753546
Change is good only if it’s for the better. Where are we going right now
>defunding public education
>rolling back child labor laws
>homeowner culture becoming rental culture
>threat of social security rollback
This is the tangent we’re on. Does it look like a good direction to you?

>> No.6753552

>>6753537
When 95% of jobs are taken by robotics and AI what will be left to do? Do you think we'll be left to live in some comfy hedonistic utopia like logans run?

>> No.6753553

>>6753551
You are too retarded to reply to.

>> No.6753554

>>6753550
Yeah let's just run with this mentality, even if it means grinding towards the end and more suffering along the way. Adapting to worsening conditions and not questioning it is unironically mentally retarded btw but you do you. I can already tell you're fine until it affects you personally and then you'll prob cry about it from the way you minimize it all

>> No.6753555

>>6753552
I think the elite will retreat to bunkers while we try to kill them. Their private security forces will kill us, and then the security will kill the rich people they’re protecting.

>> No.6753556

>>6753553
Kek absolutely worthless

>> No.6753557

>>6753553
>no answer
Common techbro embarrassment.

>> No.6753558

>>6753554
Conditions are improving.

>> No.6753559

>>6753546
Of course not everyone was negatively affected, Richfaggs got richer.

>> No.6753560

>>6753559
So did the poor.

>> No.6753562

>>6753558
Absolutely delusional but you do you

>> No.6753563

>>6753560
Show me all the assets these poor people own that they can pass on to their children. They used to own houses by the way if you didn’t know.

>> No.6753565

>>6753560
>work more than 10 hours per day 7 days per week
>kids mutilated on the factory was really common.

the poor had to fight and die by thousands for decades just get basic stuff.

>> No.6753567

he says while using a computer

>> No.6753568

>>6753565
You can just tell how much of a bubble the dumbass lives in, if I could I would wish these changes to hit these retards the hardest because you know the moment it does they'll cry about it the most

>> No.6753570

>>6753565
Excuse me, your great grandfather that worked a basic gas station job that allowed him to afford a 2 story house and raise a family was just working twenty times harder than you.

>> No.6753574

>>6753558
how? does AI write your high school homework for you?

>> No.6753791

>>6753321
>It's so we don't have to suffer(work).
LOL. How delusional are you that you think these people give a rat's ass about you?

>> No.6753834

>>6753116
This tech belong to Jew. Of course it is thievery and politicians will defense it. The ultimate goal is you will own nothing and be happy.
Wake me up when they forbid you to draw because all artstyles are copyrighted by AI

>> No.6753958

>23 IPs

>> No.6754081

>>6753126
>AI is fundamentally just using references and learning to do things, just like any of us
Including copying signatures, right retard?

>> No.6754083

>>6753207
>There's nothing illegal about it.
gtfo

>> No.6754108

>>6753958
that happens when people keep arguing

>> No.6754229

Capitalism is theft. Of course it's legal. We're not communists, are we?

>> No.6754231

I use tools to make art.
One of those tools is AI.
I am an artist. I suggest you deal with it.

>> No.6754249

>>6754231
Biden's going to make you watermark it. Or go to jail.

>> No.6754261

>>6754249
I have yet to be called out on it so I guess we'll see :)

>> No.6754740

>>6753116
This case didn't get dismissed and they were told what they need to improve on. I'm not sure how court cases work but this doesn't seem that bad.

>> No.6754787

>>6754261
It feels like if you’re trying that hard to hide it, it’s not really effective as a tool isn’t it? Unless you’re using it quite literally for reference kinda makes me wonder what the point is if you know how people will dog you when you get found out.

>> No.6754822

>>6754787
It is monumentally easier than doing things the old-fashioned way for one.
For two, I do admit there is kind of a thrill in getting my art to pass as handmade. Especially thinking of anti-AI people seeing it. Entering their brain from their retina, having a pleasant feeling from it, and complementing me on it.
It's a bit strange I know, but it's almost erotic actually. Of course it's easier in places no one is expecting it, so that makes places like /ic/ all the more challenge and satisfying.

>> No.6754880

>>6754231
>>6754261
Hi makimafag. I suggest you choke on a dick.

>> No.6754883

>>6754822
>i get my rocks off tricking people thinking you're the real thing
Tranny mentality.

>> No.6754926

>>6754822
okay then. Carry on but I do think unless you're an actual artist with the observational skills to modify the image after to pass it off 100%, you'll probably still be found out even by most int/ if all you're doing is inpainting the flaws

>> No.6754928

>>6754883
You know I had subpar expectations for these kinds of people, but this is straight up just mental illness

>> No.6755128

>>6754880
>>6754883
>>6754926
>>6754928
You can say whatever you want. The bottom line is that we're all artists, you just don't like the path I took to get here. Oh well, that's on you.

>> No.6755161

>>6755128
You will never be an artist or a woman.

>> No.6755163

>>6755128
again you can call yourself an artist if you consider your own shit in the toilet art. Misconstruing "artist" for drawer/painter which is what gAI is ripping off of doesn't make you an artist in that sense and you can't act butthurt just cause someone points it out and that's only on you.

>> No.6755219

>>6755161
>>6755163
I make art. I am an artist.
I would say "Sorry that upsets you", but I'm not particularly sorry. It's up to you to come around, but the fact is that I'm an artist just like you. Whether you like or accept that is not my problem.

>> No.6755224

>>6755219
Thanks for reiterating the point. I'm sorry it still upsets you.

>> No.6755227

>>6755219
>I make art. I am an artist.
I make art too everyday shitting out my next meal, doesn't stop the difference in values of that "art" because you can't accept it retard

>> No.6755231

Well this has gotten off track, so I will leave you to your stewing.

Have fun making art everyone, be it by paint or by prompt.
Tootles!

>> No.6755240

>>6755231
I'm sorry you couldn't come to terms with reality or come up with anything else because you realized how prompting isn't really art, keep prompting though I know in the future companies will hire that prompter over an artist who can prompt with enough hard work!

>> No.6755310

>>6755231
I feel sorry for people who have to deal with an insufferable faggot like you on a daily basis.

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>>6753544
you are the most retarded motherfucker on planet earth if you think the industrial revolution was bad for humanity, or that it didn't incredibly massively boost the standard of living of everyone.

Like unironically there is NO historian, NO economist, probably not even a single person with an IQ above 85 that would say "the industrial revolution was so bad, I wish it didnt happen"

>> No.6755807

>>6753478
values are off

>> No.6756298

big luddite energy