/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I'm liking these OPs.

>>6736561
>Gesture is only the first step of figure drawing. You are supposed to make it look like the model in the latter steps
elaborate pls

>>6736631
strongly agree, they’re entertaining

you guys like my art?

Do you think the ribcage and hips are too far apart?

>>6736676
Yes, also the right shoulder is attached to the chest like an action figure instead of shifting forward

>>6736676
how tall are they supposed to be?

Why the fuck am I so goddamn bad at this? I'm never going to get to actually drawing at this rate. This is after about a month and a half of lines, squares and ellipses, as well as some very basic 1VP perspective. And I'm still struggling a lot with rotating squares and accurately fitting ellipses into them.
Speaking of getting to actually drawing, how would I go about ditching the fear of drawing "incorrectly" and just doing it even if I don't have the knowledge or the mechanical skill to actually draw what I want? I can't "relax and draw what inspired me for fun" like this, but if I just strictly grind exercises with this level of progress I'll probably not make it. I remember drawing shit without a care in the world when I was a wee lad, but as soon as I started "getting serious" and learning how to do shit properly, there's been all kinds of worries and insecurities cropping up.

Saw a pose from a video and wanted to see if I was on the right track with my gestures, even though I've still got some ways to go I feel like I'm in the right ball part and it's starting to somewhat click for me.

>>6736655
Yeah, and your dubs
>>6736684
There is no proper way, make things in a style that pleases you and makes you smile. Over time you'll gradually improve as you seek to elaborate on and develop that which makes you smile. When you were young you didn't care about anything other than making yourself smile, so work to achieve that again. Draw an octopus.

Looking for pointers of this character design of an Aquarius boy from a Greco-Roman themed technological cloud kingdom.

Design inspirations: TotK Link, Lum from Urusei Yatsura, Jericho from Teen Titans, early Miyazaki

I resent the fact that his color palette evokes Squidward...

>>6736683
There's only one figure in that drawing anon.

>>6736683
idk, the same as an average female I guess

>>6736724
and i am unaware of the gender, so i said they

>starting at 31 is the same as starting at 18!
Every time I think /beg/ can't have a worse cope it exceeds my expectations.

>>6736782
>starting at 31 is the same as starting at 18!
It's not, but it might as well be the best best thing. The best time to start was 10 years ago, the second best is now.

>>6736621
repost kind off.

Grinding heads

>>6736786
Nope. Sometimes the second best time was 9 years ago. Sometimes, you just shouldn't bother starting. I've been failing for years so I know I'm doomed. Why can't you face reality?

>draw gesture
>looks good, you can sense the flow of the pose, its rhythm, the feeling
>'okay let's add some volumes'
>looks like fucking shit, stiff as fuck, doesn't remind to the gesture nor the reference
Brehs

>>6736808
Shoo shoo crab

>>6736822
same friend, its rough out here

>>6736828
Being a crab would imply I'm even in the bucket. I'm trying to pull you out of this hell so you can do things besides worry about attaining skill in drawing.

>>6736836
>don't bother pursuing this hobby
LMAO it's just a drawing, who cares?

>>6736854
Care about the time you could have spent doing superior things that you're better suited for.

>>6736858
Such as?

>>6736859
Learning a trade, starting a family, there's so much more you could be.

I don't know if I should feel flattered or insulted about my drawing being in the OP

>>6736863
I have literally never made it into the OP, being acknowledged is pretty flattering.

>>6736723
OMG

Twink Squidward

What should I focus on in 10 minute timed studies? Are these okay? Ignore the retarded shading pls

>just draw
What does this mean? I don't have a single artist I want to draw like, so I really do want to JUST draw. But I never make any progress, and people get frustrated with me.

What am I supposed to do if I really do want to simply draw, without having to consciously think? Knowing nothing but the technique? Are there any artists that understand me?

Stupid doodles

if you identify a poster as a /ngmi/ crab but still engage with them, you are being pulled down to their level like the crabs in a bucket metaphor describes
you are supposed to ignore crabs
not argue with them

>>6736882
> I don't have a single artist I want to draw like
>Are there any artists that understand me?

no
literally every artist has somebody or some some examples or art that he or she is inspired by

>>6736723
didn’t really get squidward vibes from the color palette

just curious, what’s his personality like? and do any of the things on his body have to do with his profession? (what is his profession?

answering these will probably help me give you advice, also any extra information about the character’s background would help too

>>6736892
Well, what if you've witnessed over a million art pieces in totality, and your reaction is "Oh that's nice" but if you get pressed into saying if any of them inspire you to the point you want to flatter the artist by initiating them, you say hell no?

trying to draw le loomis heads

>>6736793
reminds me of knives from trigun

Drew a face to Kris, looks decent?

>>6736163
>>6736314

shouldve waited and posted it in this thread, oh well. just a reference to that post for conveniences sake

>>6736523
>>6736536


>>6736879
good gesture
BASIC anatomy whilst not ruining the gesture
simplified light+shadow
if you can get the "smaller gesture" of the face and hands within the time limit thats a big bonus

>>6736906
>inspire you to the point you want to flatter the artist by initiating them
why would you want to flatter them?
i dont understand your position
if you can judge pictures and sort them by how much you like a given picture or not, that means you have a personal taste, which can be extrapolated to a theoretical artist / art style / subject that you want to achieve. the artist (or multiple artists) that show signs of this theoretical ideal art that you like should be the ones that inspire you

Warmed up with this.
Better than what i recall being able to create but still p bad.
Moving to actual exercise. Gmi

>>6736956
Gmi

>>6736932

Update. Reduced hair mass

>>6736956
>posts washed out photo of a drawing
>3x4 thousand pixels
>3mb
>drawing is unfinished
>nobody but him and god know what the drawing is supposed to depict
>asserts that he is /going to do actual exercise/
>calls himself /gmi/
absolutely based

>>6736961
thanks. I'll try upside down coyping Fire Punch now. I'm afraid that i'll have trouble doing that with something that doesn't have clearly defined lines but i might as well try.

>>6736953
>why would you want to flatter them?
Never heard of the phrase imitation is the sincerest form of flattery? It was a play on that. I have 0 desire to imitate any of the artists I've ever seen, even the ones I've saved pictures from.

>if you can judge pictures and sort them by how much you like a given picture or not, that means you have a personal taste, which can be extrapolated to a theoretical artist / art style / subject that you want to achieve. the artist (or multiple artists) that show signs of this theoretical ideal art that you like should be the ones that inspire you
I can only go in the negative. That is, I know what I DON'T like, but if you ask me to tell you what I do like I'll draw a blank.

>>6736966
Is this pic any better?
The drawing is supposed to depict a stereotypical silly noir guy with a fedora and all.
Sorry for the bad quality.

>>6736978
I will shit my pants

>>6736822
Story of my life

>>6736982
No idea why but it looks so much better when i view it on my phone. Damn
Not gonna waste any more time with this.
Sorry for the spam.

time to go study from some chinese/japanese dude for the next month

>>6736990
>some chinese/japanese dude for the next month
This is a woman good sir. You appear to be mistaken.

>>6736896
He’s a young ENTP. He wants to be an inventor in a society that is oversaturated with them, so he looks to the sea below, where few of his race go, as they are more comfortable in the clouds.

He is intensely curious, mischievous, a touch manipulative, and has a “weird guy” charm. He has a drive for romance, but is afraid of connection, so defers to manipulation to keep himself safe.

I hope that helps

>>6736993
lol, nah I mean for some reason all good anime artists are some form of east asian, I swear you cannot find a single western art course that can teach you anime fundies well.

fug its too dark again isnt it

>>6736953

>>6736999
woah he's just like me fr, bet he also has a wicked nihilistic sense of humour...

>>6736990
>>6737001
Who are you studying from?

>>6737084
Hide.ch, watched a few wingfox videos from various courses.

>>6736969
Fire punch is understandably really fucking hard to even copy.
How did he fucking do it is beyond me. Kudos to the master.
Look at this shit.

End of practice for today since its 1:30 am
I'll start in the morning tomorrow.
Gnight ./beg/

>>6736964
wide head

I'm having a lot of trouble with faces. A lot of the time, they look really strange and I have trouble identifying the problem. These are my most recent faces. I've watched a lot of videos on faces and the structure of the head and tried to apply what I learn but they still keep looking awkward and it's driving me mad. I'm not going for any style in particular, I'm mainly just trying to draw competent looking faces and capture the expressiveness/energy of the reference. If anyone can point out where I'm messing up and what I could be doing differently, I'd really appreciate it.

>>6736616
Did some more noodling with this lad. Didn't get too many help last time but figured I'd toss my hat back into the ring one last time.

>>6737178
this looks fantastic where did you learn color/how to paint?

>>6737174
Which artists inspire you?

>>6736999
his design gave me a little of that but here’s some random things i would consider adding to his design that i think could help a little of you wanted to add them

>messy clothes may help him seem more mischievous
>maybe wearing some sort of invention he made on his body, or something generally technological
>something related to the ocean excluding his color palette and hair, sorta less like he’s representing the ocean and more that he exists with it
>the pattern of his outfit feels a little tacked on there but that may just have to do with the drawing and not the pattern
>if you want him to seem more smart or curious then you could add glasses for the nerdy effect, or maybe goggles might add more to the ocean/invented look depending on which way you’d go about them

idk those are just my ideas, you can still have a good design without incorporating any of those features

>>6737174
your faces are orders of magnitude better than what i can pull off on a good day, so i might not bet of much help

>they look really strange and I have trouble identifying the problem
>keep looking awkward
what do you mean by "strange" and "awkward"?

>I'm mainly just trying to draw competent looking faces and capture the expressiveness/energy of the reference
your faces *do* look competent and very expressive - at least in my opinion

the only guess i could make as to your dissatisfaction is - perhaps your expectation is "appealing faces in a finished illustration" and what you have is "appealing faces in rough sketch format" ...

your proportions are fine, the faces are expressive, they are appealing, even from different refs they have a hint of some personal touch / style of yours

or maybe you struggle to create faces like these from imagination and that is your true problem?

what would be an example of non-"awkward" and non-"strange" faces?

>got put in the OP
AH SHWEET.
Here's some older stuff. Sorry I suck at coloring /beg/. I never color so I draw like this instead.

I am shitting out these drawings for fun and to see what I am capable of with no reference. Turns out not much and its overall very wonky. I make 5 to 10 doodles of random scenes. Pic related is me drawing, half asleep and full NEET.

>>6737186
i-i did not notice that i was reddit spacing. im so sorry guys wtf

Here is a real banger. People worrying about aphantasia, but imagine being as generic as me lol.

>>6737183
These are all good ideas

I think I'll give him a telescope and some fishing gear. He is not of the ocean, but in relation to it. Fits in with the theme of Aquarius: "the water bearer."

I'll also design him with a satchel to hold a bunch of gadgets and inventions. The satchel will look like a cloud on a strap

Thank you for the feedback, I'll keep working on it.

>>6737182
I don't have a list. I usually just save individual images in a folder because I like them. The pic related is something I saved off of a thread because I really liked the face, but I don't know who the artist is.

>>6737186
>what would be an example of non-"awkward" and non-"strange" faces?
Pic related. It's still in a sketch phase, but their shapes and face structure are very appealing to me, and gives off the impression that they knew what they were doing and didn't just fumble their way into the result like I usually do.

how would you guys improve the shading?
>>6737009
ye its pretty dark bro
>>6737114
it's pretty clearly traced over 3d models to some extent
>>6737178
looks so good but its weird that the head is sideways when the entire body is facing away from the camera

Lay the phone down. Close 4chan. Meditate 10 minutes each time before you start drawing. Visualize while meditating. Stop your breathing every 15 seconds for 6 seconds to increase co2 in your brain which clears your mind. When I meditate I can visualize as clear as day almost.

You can exercise this part of your brain by doing this daily.

>>6737219
thanks bro
>>6735456

>>6737178
bro... I'm actually jealous.

>get told to fuck off /beg/
>"neat!, i graduated!, now i can finally post in-"
>/alt/ gone
>every other non porn thread is dead

>>6737178

>>6737215
>Pic related. It's still in a sketch phase, but their shapes and face structure are very appealing to me
i agree that pic you posted is very nice, however i think there are multiple faces among yours that look equally as good. sure, yours are from reference while this example might be from imagination - but in my eyes you are very close to the point of still confusing me about your seemingly strong dissatisfaction with your own faces.

>the impression that they knew what they were doing and didn't just fumble their way into the result like I usually do.
sure, but then again, that person might have been using references themselves, and that specific face might have been the 3rd retry from scratch to get the exact effect right

i think whatever path you are on will lead you to where you are going rather sooner than later (again, i would argue you are already more than comparable to that example pic)
and frankly i am jealous of your faces and wish you could give me some insight on what exactly you studied and how exactly your practice routine looks like lol

also here is a nice quote for you
"skill is
when luck
becomes common"
your faces are hitting below *and* above that example. it merely needs to become more reliable

>>6737219
you kinda had light sources that didnt make sense like a underglow but there was no light or reflective material under her, just black

>>6737236
I'm guessing since you wrote all this instead of simply painting over you probably cant show me directly...or just dont want to. I can change the head and adjust the head face away from the camera (just have to tweak the eye and the horn a lil bit. I manually painted every scale with a lasso, pretty easy and quick to do.

>>6737258
Sorry bud, havent drawn a dragon since elementary, i draw people so i cant help you much

>>6737255
Well as you can see the feet and calves are actually hit by the light from above I was going for something like a light directly behind her
Honestly I don't think it's light direction, there's something else, i can see the light direction so it's not that
Also why did you do that to her face that's terryfying

Beg. Today i was lazy. Ugh.

>>6737235
being told to get off /beg is 99% crab trying to crab you. also if you were actually above /int level you would KNOW yourself. You would just need single look at all other shit begs posts and you would be like: whoa, am i in kindergarden?
>>6737201
being generic is least of your problems. her body is broken. did you use reference? you should next time
>>6737174
i kneel
>>6736990
that shading is garbage. idk if its air brush or whatever but you need to start using something else, this isnt working, the shades are too soft, too undefined and the color tones it produces are off putting. It creates no hard edges
>>6736907
looking good
>>6736822
imagine is you actually PYWed. then we could analyze what the fuck are you doing wrong. but nope. like this its like you are just whiny bitch. PYW!
>>6736723
flat. although if you were animating this level of detail would be more than enough. Since you bothered to add shade from clothes, you should also slap the shade on 1 side of the forms. Like this is looks weird
>>6736684
ellipse is the hardest shape ever i have encountered in my 1 year long BEG career. You are kinda wasting time doing "just" ellipses. Pick up some course and go draw something else as well (feel free to keep practicing ellipses if thats your fetish, but dont do JUST ellipses)
>>6736646
check this one https://pawell2418.github.io/p/217.jpg
top right, the blue figure. you can see the 10 seconds gesture in middle, then 1 minute one on right and then 5min (i think?) on left. That is how you can use gesture as a sketch to build your figures.

working on a character sheet for the illustration of a horror story. she is supposed to be ~30 years old hapa

target audience are normies in general
thoughts?

>>6737174
You should draw more men if you are trying to learn face structure, they are better for applying it. On those drawings, I notice that you are kinda same-facey, specially the eyes, you should look into different "anime" styles because this looks too Moe.

>>6737304
Face looks childlike. The neck could be lots thicker.

Tried a /co/ draw thread request to practice digital earlier in Clip Studio.
Aside from the skill issues, anyone got tips for improving workflow for simple drawings like this?

I only really used the Design pencil for the hidden sketch, and a slightly adjusted Milli pen (and Hard Eraser) with different sizes for everything visible here.
Milli pen seemed close enough to a Hard Round Brush without changing much, was that a dumb choice?
I don't want to go deep searching custom brushes until I have more mileage, but don't want to handicap myself too much or learn bad habits.

Fill tool with lasso on a lower layer is probably ideal for the flat colors to speed that up?
I just did it more manually since I need to get used to the tablet/software anyway, but overall took me longer than it should have.
I know some speed will come with more practice too.

>>6737251
I really feel like there's a big difference between mine and the one I posted, but thanks. I don't think I'd be good at giving advice since I'm unsure about a lot of things myself.

>>6737308
Thanks. I'm make sure to fill out a page of male faces next time I draw. And yeah, I really like the soft round eyes, so a lot of the faces I draw end up looking kinda similar. I'll work on variety as well.

How do I learn to draw basic shapes? Like circles and rectangles?

>>6737325
Can u draw a line? A rectangle/square is 4 lines intersecting each other. A circle is 4 curves within a square.

>>6737318
>I really like round eyes
>Same face
Look, I ain't telling you to embrace the same face, because you probably will overcome this, as you are going out of your comfort zone and all that. But if you really like a look, then you shouldn't change it, just look at Dragon Ball, it has a limited number of eyes and still has good art. Anyways, good luck in your journey mate, heads are probably the thing that takes the longest to be satisfied with.

>>6737309

>>6737329
I can draw really straight lines but only in like 2 directions because I'm only using my arm muscle, when I add my shoulder muscle it gets fucked up. Should I just keep doodling squares and circles when I'm bored to fix this?

How hungry

octopi are funni ribbons

>>6736953
>>6737031


>>6737318
>I don't think I'd be good at giving advice since I'm unsure about a lot of things myself.
im disappointed

>>6737365
lol

>>6737275
yeah i think this works, how's this bud? I put the shadow behind the spikey parts of the face to kinda pop it out. Probably is wrong, but feels satisfying...

>>6737374
It's not that I don't want to give advice, I'm just afraid of giving the wrong advice and giving my bad habits to other people. I want to make sure I fully understand what it is I'm explaining before I even try.

I sketch some hands in less than 30 or 20 seconds, how I'm going and any tips to get better?

>>6737395
make every line count, draw less lines
having too many introduces ambiguity and prevents you from seeing your mistakes

>>6737224
>*mom starts screaming*

How did I do in rotating these boxes, I think I did something wrong but can't pinpoint it

>>6737395
Ur going to have draw a lot more hands and in less strokes.

>>6737224
>Increase CO2 in your brain
Wtf no

>>6737335
THICKER
Especially in the profile. This is supposed to be an adult in her 30s.

finished my drawing, happy with how I inked it, not so much the coloring. Need more pastels I think.

side note never using alcohol markers to color in black again.

>>6737335
You should look into Asoro heads. Really good reference to practice form.

I feel like I did something cool but it won't be truly great unless I break the 'flat colors' barrier, still posting it before I possibly ruin it lmao
Also included the placeholder pencil version because I liked it.

>>6737276
nice

>>6737418
You can draw in the vanishing points to see if the lines converge properly on the horizon if you feel like the boxes hold mistakes.

>>6737504
>I feel like I did something cool
Draw stuff that you like, it is pretty cool :3

>>6737484
really nice

>>6737495
I will look it up
but do you think that head looks bad?

my 13yo cousin drew this rate her /beg/

>>6737563
It's not terrible but there's room for improvement.

>>6736616

>>6737573
quality post 10/10

Not like I will quit or anything - far from it, but sometimes I just wonder, why do I even try. It's been 2 months and while I understand some basic concepts I can't put anything into practice and when it's about drawing in itself(practically), I didn't progress at all.

Back to geometric forms grind, since construction is the only thing that makes any logical sense to me out of all tutorials I read and videos I watched, I want to work on it as much as I can and as much as needed.

Really liked this critters I made

>>6737578
you need more accuracy / observation skill before anything else
for that pic in particular, you are being tricked by the pretty colors. turn it into black&white, flip it upside down and draw the shapes

>>6737568
13 huh?
*smiles*
sounds hot
*takes a drag from cigar, revealing golden tooth*
and the way she signed her name... mmmmhh
*licks lips*
so energetic and youthful
*exhales smoke*
and is that... is that a big flashy heart as an exclamation mark?
*unties belt, slips hand into pants*
Lilly... El-Eye-El-El-Why
*starts stroking dick*
you know what they say about girls whose name ends in "y"
*opens bottom drawer next to desk*
...
*ahem*
tell her she draws like shit
also tell her to finish a pic before posting it here
or for gods sake, finish it before putting a signature on it
jesus fucking christ

least shit pedophile/lsg poster

>>6737585
I was already tempted by the original picture but I ended up fapping to anon's roleplay. Fuck, my motivation to keep drawing is gone for the night .

>>6736650
>>6736631
saw my drawings there once
i knew with iron in my soul then that i would draw until the day that crabs here would look at my poasts here and call me a faggot

Anything to change before I'm done with this?

>>6737365
blog?

>>6737601
dude this is gonna sound real autistic but you have to answer me honestly
im not sure i understand you correctly
are you saying my post >>6737585 made you nut?
(i am actually in the process of writing l*li smut in combination with pictures, like a comic but whit less panels and more text)
if so, that would be a huge motivation booster for me

>>6737625
Well it certainly helped lmao I was already thinking about lewd stuff and just followed along.
Uhhh... gonna make it? LOOMIS?

>>6737633
https://litter.catbox.moe/k3yk91.png

this is a very very very early outline of what my first attempt at smut is going to be
the idea is to flesh out the descriptions and then create a handful of illustrations to accompany the descriptions

its not like i think this is worthy of sharing in the current state, just as a thank you for motivating my ... on accident kek

Looking for a photoshop expert who can help me figure out workflow of some of my favorite artist in order to study them and 'steal' from them in some capacity, for example currently I am trying figure out how do I approach post-processing to get this sorta look(left is Ashley wood right is Malik Vipr). But I don't know the general workflow of it all because I have just been using drawing software for just 'drawing'.

>>6737666
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B64pLolg0Lw

Tried to fix this.

not super familiar with fur/animals, so it was a little difficult, but I still enjoyed this one. not 100% satisfied but hey, I think i gained something atleast. On to the next study.

it's a maned wolf also, in case the legs looks too long. they have really long legs

aight i drew some heads. wat next

>>6737504
This might be the best I can do to make it look professional

>>6737708
mullet aside, the hand should be gripping the pistol.

I tried to do the grayscale to color but it didn't work, I know I should study color theory but I wanted an easy trick in the meantime, but there are no easy tricks I guess

btw how can I change from color to grayscale to check the values in csp?
I don't mean just one layer but the whole thing

Another one

>>6737620
https://twitter.com/eridhaaa333?t=dpHB0kplSoD3DkCrbV7zrQ&s=09

Should I ink this?

>>6737666
I know next to nothing about digital art, but I wonder if he printed the right drawing and used an actual light to achieve the hair shine, like they did with old anime

>>6737652
fucking pedophile

>>6737388
Head doesn't follow the direction of the rest of the body. Instead of it flying towards the castle it looks like it's turning it's upper body towards the viewer.

>>6737388
>>6737787
NTA but the legs say the body is turned ~45deg while the head and neck are suddenly in side profile. I think you could make a turn work but you have to make it more intentional with it especially in the neck.

>>6737777
yeah, your quads demand it

Today I decided to take the fun out of drawing by swallowing the Loomispill, as per your suggestion. How many more of these before it clicks into place?

>>6737811
hundreds
not even memeing

>>6737814
Is it worth it? How did you go about it? Focused solely on these types of drills, or did you alternate between fun and education, picking things up gradually?

>>6737827
>Is it worth it?
only you can answer that question
is it worth it to you to learn how to properly draw faces/heads?
this applies to literally everything in life, only way to make a thing a second nature is by repetition and grinding. Thats how you learn to play any instrument, thats how you learn to dance, thats how you learn a new language, thats how you learn everything.

>How did you go about it?
Im a beg too, im just slightly better than you at drawing heads

>Focused solely on these types of drills, or did you alternate between fun and education, picking things up gradually?
Again, up to you.
What are you drawing for? Fun? Just to learn a new skill? To make drawing your career?
If its not career related, literally do whatever you want, its not like youre in a hurry to improve.
If youre career focused, then I'd do conscious effort drills, and then switch to drawing whatever for fun and end the session in a more relaxed note.

>>6737708
I COULDN'T JUST WASTE THIS DESIGN LIKE THAT... THROUGH HARDSHIP, TO THE STARS!!!!
LET'S FUCKING GO, THREAD THEME:

https://youtu.be/0GFHmxZKmfU?t=27

Are you ready, Wolf?
>Hoh!
Riding the past! Accelerating through the future!
This is... OUR OVERSOUL!!!!!!!!!

>>6737219
>>6737789
Eh, looks like im a hack. This looks better to me but im not a hundred percent certain.

>>6737568
Tell her to keep going! Then marry her

>>6737219
there was a time when asking /beg/ for suggestions was sure fire, i wonder what happened
>>6737857
yeah this does look better

>>6737568
>>6737585
uuoohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh erotic cute and funny

>>6736822
Because you don't have a visual library.

>>6736822
The volumes need to follow the flow of the gesture nigga, don't just put stiff blocks of lego on top of a gesture.

I tried to learn anatomy for weeks now, still can't draw properly, I'm tempted to use CSP's 3d models for help, should I outright trace it and doing modifications after or trying to use it as a reference wood doll?

>>6736098
some more gestures. untimed this time

is this good or bad

>>6737335
how old is she supposed to be (idk what im doing)

>>6736616
one of the things I am actually proud of making, so much so that I've made it my wallpaper

>couldn't finish 1 (one) art
>stuck in sketch hell
how do i get out of it
yes im a zoomer

>>6736616
where can I get the peter han dynamic sketching course videos?

>>6738059
ic torrent has it

>>6737832
Cute!

>>6737311
No brush in the world can fix the orangutan arms.

>>6738054
draw something you're actually interested in

>>6738005
Answer me pls

I want to draw, but at the same time, I really don't want to draw.

>>6738120
then do draw
or
dont?

>>6738128
Thanks /ic/, you always know what to say.

>>6737761
use the color white and change the layer mode to saturation, gets rid of all the colors in the layers below it

>>6738059
Here
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Or you can go to Online Course Club and find it over there

>>6738137
Thanks

>>6738155
im retarded
how do I use that random string of characters

>>6738107
it is

>>6738186
base64

>>6737335
>>6738009

It's the position of her eyes in the head or in other words her huge forehead that makes he look like a child. You have to raise the position of the eyes higher in the face, if you want to make her look more mature. A cute small chin can work regardless even in a young adult, but the position of her eye sockets are that of a 7 year old.

followed the advice, did the monkey

>>6737999
more 2-3 min gestures

What is the step before beginner? I feel like most beginner guides and whatever else I see, require a certain amount of knowledge or at least, skill, that I don't have.

>>6738155
>>6738186
my guess is it could be a torrent magnet link, though something tells me i am wrong

>>6738214
>>6738218
improvementmaxxing progresschads

>>6738226
>I feel like most beginner guides and whatever else I see, require a certain amount of knowledge or at least, skill, that I don't have.
you mean, like, drawing cubes and spheres or copying references?
/ngmi/

>>6738228
base64
twice

>>6738155
>>6738199
>>6738251
>base64
fuck me. my brain replaced that with "base16" and i thought to myself this must be a shitpost since it is obviously not hex
lol

(for me it was three times btw ?)

>>6737174
To draw a good face you need to know what a good face looks like. Often times when I draw a face I gaslight myself into believing it looks good when it really doesn't, or I'm simply too blind to see that it's not great. To counter this, I do studies of 1 bajillion faces in a row. Studies have by far been the most helpful to me. Just make sure to apply the knowledge rather than just copying and forgetting. But above all the most important part to getting good at anything in drawing is to persevere and believe.

>>6737831
>What do you want...

That's the weird bit. My 2 year old daughter has just started doodling (draws crude faces and stick figures) and loves watching me draw something more complex for her, and so I'd like to give her a comic book for her 3rd birthday with her as a main character - I could do this simply by using 3D dummies for reference, but I thought that learning to draw from imagination (generally) could not only make the process less tedious, but that it might also unlock a part of my brain that deals with space, perspective, lighting etc. Hence the question "Is it worth it?"

>decide to copy photos because I'm actually pretty at loss what makes a feminine face and I don't want to fall into trap of knowing only how to draw anime
>decide to go for >>>/s/21688143 because multiple women in one photo
>all prettied up, sure, but audience wants pretty women anyway
>start copying the first from left
>because it's a quick sketch, I'm not doing rendering that I couldn't do properly, so it's pretty barebones
>...
>trace the face this time
>...
I don't know if it's because I'm that bad, but she reminds me of a hamster with elongated face.
Are real women really this mediocre? Or I'm this broken?

>>6737584
>for that pic in particular, you are being tricked by the pretty colors. turn it into black&white, flip it upside down and draw the shapes

While I think I just suck, I will give your suggestion a good try.

Which canvas size should I use if im using a 23.8'' monitor at 1920x1080?

>>6738326
5000x5000

>people are recommending doing quick sketches to build 'visual library'
And what exactly is 'visual library'? Someone please explain concept of it to me.
Is it like teaching your brain to draw something or what?

>>6738344
Draw me a bird from memory

How to improve for real?

The correct line tool in CSP is amazing. Being able to adjust the lineweight of your linework in the vector layer is fucking fantastic.

Friendship ended with raster layers, vector layers are now my best friend.

>>6738371
taking a gun and sucking on it then pulling the trigger, try it

>>6738371
What have you tried.

>>6738380
don't talk to that shizo
you have been warned

>>6738371
if you havent already got something working for you, you wont find it here. search some shit yourself, anything these guys offer either works or doesnt. for me (and it seems like you too), it doesnt.

>>6738380
These days, nothing. Years ago, a lot of sruff, all the beg resources except for Dynamic Sketching didn't work for me. So loomis and KTD are scams for me
>>6738383
>>6738378
If a criminal is released from prison and no one gives him a chance to go straight, he will relapse on crime

>>6738344
https://youtu.be/uEgCsWyOyCo

i think this video explains it pretty well in depth, it does have a bit of a focus on design but even if you want to draw fanart for the rest of your life most of it still applies

>>6738297
Alright, I put more work into it and now it looks passable, I'm not sure how, tho.

>>6738214
#10

>>6736684
>>6736717
>Draw an octopus.
You didn't think I would actually do it, didja?
Fuck, this was hard. Proportions are all out of whack. Lines are all fuzzy. Fucked up the scale in a couple places too. I blame the ref for half of the mess with the mantle and tentacles, but I really liked this one in particular.
Still, it was kinda fun. Feels nice to have "finished" something, too.
So, do I really have a chance to mi like this? Just at a laid-back hobbyist level at least.

Might not be the thread to post this on but here it goes

Once in a life time a collaborative work that's really cool happens; this is that collaborative work !

If you are interested in getting your oc drawn, and drawing other people's oc you should join the /ic/ oc survivor tourney! Your oc will be placed on a tropical volcanoe island and will be forced to go through trials and tribulations in this survivor like tourney! You will be drawing a comic about said trials and challenges your oc goes to, plus your oc will be provided housing! Eliminations will be voted upon by contestants, or by a set of judges. Failure to post comic means automatic elimination.
>>6734465

>>6738218
more 3 minute gestures. trying to understand how to draw the initial lines for the legs that are usable later for the simple initial forms. I feel like if I just draw the flowing gesture line then I can't really wrap around it and make it look correct. maybe I'm just missing anatomical knowledge

>>6738450
getting there
notice how her brow ridge is too shallow in your drawing
look at the two triangles of shadow that her brow ridge casts onto her upper eyelids
also you drew the brows too low and close to the eyes
channel the monkey artist in you from the previous pic and give the faces you draw a humongous neanderthal brow ride. chances are, aiming too high with your intention - but coming short with your beginner art skill - you might hit it perfectly

bonus points if you try to indicate the "muzzle" of the face just like the giant monkey mouth

keep working anon you have gmi mindset

I can't do this.
>>6725807

doing some faces since animoo and cutesy stuff has rotted my brain. Also i dont know why i chose the brush i did for the first one but it looks like ass compared to my sketch brush i used for the other two.

I don't remember the last time I finished a drawing. Must have been more than six years ago. Can't work on the same thing for more than 5 minutes.

>>6738376
Nice
What tools do you use for lineart?

If you think you've seen this post before: No you haven't.
>>6736684
>>6736717
>Draw an octopus.
You didn't think I would actually do it, did you?
Fuck, this was hard. Proportions are all out of whack. Lines are all fuzzy. Fucked up the scale in a couple places too. I blame the ref for half of the mess with the mantle and tentacles, but I really liked this guy in particular.
Still, it was kinda fun. Feels nice to have "finished" something, too, even though it's barely finished even as just a sketch.
So, do I really have a chance to, as they say, "make it" like this? Just at a laid-back hobbyist level at least. I'm not planning to become a professional artist or anything, I just want to be good enough to occasionally shitpost in drawthreads and not feel like a complete no-skill shitter.

HOW TO DRAW VELVET CROWE (no relations to Russell Crowe, the pope’s exorcist)???

>>6738509
I suggest you look up octopus anatomy, also try to understand the tentacles as 3d objects rather than grass blades

>>6736616
I plan to leave 4chan for awhile because I'm literally an addict. So my planned learning route will be to grind half course of DAB and then grind perspective books like "p.made easy" and something, I know I should focus on grinding more primitive shapes (like ellipsis etc), do you guys have a good source for that? I'll try to focus a lot on that, primitive shapes and perspective.

Will also read the CSP official tutorials, for seeing what the fuck is rendering and how to do it. also practice those quick 1m/3m gesture things. that's all I can think about it. Let's gooo

>>6738469
alright, i’ll keep that in mind on the next one! i’m busy so i won’t be able to work on it right away but if i have time i’ll try to do one later tonight

>>6738579
>I suggest you look up octopus anatomy
Not much to look up there, really, the buggers are relatively straightforward.
>try to understand the tentacles as 3d objects rather than grass blades
You don't say. The issue is that squiggly wiggly octopus arms are a little too hard for me to turn into 3d objects right now, since I'm just a no-draw pre-beg. Especially when they curve and twist and coil so much.

Ive been utterly obsessed with painting better noses this past week, so my work has mostly consisted of making dozens of quick faces so understand it. Overall very fun stuff

>>6738581
DAB will already make you grind these primitive shapes anon, but take a look at Peter Han’s book as well and then try to draw objects using what you learned. You’ll have fun and learn well

>>6738602
reminds me of sinix
any tips on practicing faces? yours are very appealing while being well constructed. how would you advise a lower /int/ to practice (or what advice would you give your younger self)?

Apparently my IP range is blocked from posting images ?
I havent done anything bad.
Ive been suspended a few times for posting Calliope Mori anti threads on /vt/ but thats it, i dont even use any other boards. I used to be able to post images on vt just fine.
Recommended alternative or fixes ?

how would you guys go about copying a pose in 10 minutes? Do you use construction or just draw the contours of the shapes?

>>6738016
girls last snipe

>>6738619
litterbox dot catbox dot moe

>>6738617
> reminds me of sinix

I can’t lie, i love his method of working so im definitely influenced by him

As for advice, I think the most helpful thing for me has been:

1) suck it up and actually practice loomis and reilly methods

2) go on sketchfab and spend lots of time observing individual features from every different angle

After that its just daily grinding anon, i haven’t done anything special

>>6738619
If your IP is dynamic reset your ethernet, or look to see if your service provider allows you to change your address. If that doesn't work use a private VPN. Chans range block popular ones but it's possible to find ones that haven't been blocked yet.
If that still doesn't work then you can try the 4chanpass method if you're really desperate.

>>6738602
these look great, I especially love the Clint Eastwood-looking guy

>>6738602
you got any socials?

Fucking Hunter schafer, i fucked up
This is what I get for stealing a reference fuck
>>6738450

I want a big tiddy asian gf

>>6738650
Sorry anon I just post here from time to time

>>6738100
No shit, but you can't read apparently and that's going to be a bigger problem for you.
I can see problems with the fundies myself at this stage, but just don't know my way around digital to practice faster.

pyw though

>>6738508
Just the regular g-pen typically.

>>6737395
sketch more hands, but include forearms with them. also try to convey the same knowledge you have of hands but with fewer lines, more simple and clear planes.

>>6737484
cute and gmipilled

>>6737504
soul

>>6737582
good job anon
add inappropriate speech / thought bubbles to them :^)

>>6737696
try to make it clear what is fur color and what is light+shadow. its difficult in monochrome sure but that is all i can think of as advice for you.
looks cute

>>6737750
your biggest weakness in my opinion is how messy your lines are. either make cleaner linework or embrace a sketchy look and impart it with more personality. otherwise really comfy picture anon

>>6737763
i dont know if its horses in general or just your touch, but i love the vibe your horse faces give off. something between smug, judgemental, waiting for the laugh after a joke... i love it

>>6737777
you have 24 hours before i unironically steal that design. also post more character designs of yours, its inspiring

>>6737832
very cool design. and the hatching is really nice in some places. gmi

>>6737854
soul
again

>>6737857
impressive colors. i am jealous. what was the most influential thing you did to learn how to paint like that?

>>6738016
cute!
correct me if i am wrong, but shouldnt she be squinting with the other eye to aim down sights on a rifle?

>>6737999
>>6738218
>>6738466
good job anon
take your favorite gesture and try to develop anatomy ontop using the reference every now and then, expand your practice routine to capture more ground, pushing further into figure drawing

>>6738638
>reilly method
took a quick look, thats not to my taste but
>sketchfab and spend lots of time observing individual features from every different angle
is awesome. thank you for that! bookmarked and gonna try and improve by copying appealing stylised faces from multiple angles

>>6738390
How many chances do you give a repeat offender that clearly isn't trying to be better?
Reposting the same low effort drawing is like him reminding the guards that one time that he actually threw away his own trash after lunch every day, but only doing it once every couple months.
If he showed he was trying, at all, people would let him out on good behavior.

Keep him locked up.

>>6738736
>>6738688

Medoum effort, zero talent
I dont improve because I have no talent

>have to give up at 1AM
I hate being a wagecuck

i’m on chapter 1 of color by david hornung and my mind is already blown. i love this. i know i’m jumping ahead by reading this as a /beg/ but i couldn’t help myself.

How should a /beg/ go about measuring? It is the thing I hate most, it feels literally painful, "oh yes, you see this is 3 and 6/7 the size of the other thing", how do u make it easier? Do you evr round it up, how much? Or Im just a beg and it will not be painful if i practice it

Pic rel is a really good manga Ive read, its called Cigarette and Cherry, top notch romcom

>>6738390
>If a criminal is released from prison and no one gives him a chance to go straight, he will relapse on crime
True

stop
talking
to
the
shizo

>>6738780
Why? So you will never help me then?

>>6738765
you do these measurements
>to demonstrate in a book / tutorial how measuring is done
>to redline somebodys drawing
>to check your own art if it looks off and you cant explain why, as a last resort, the nuclear option
>when studying pictures / anatomy / style and exaggeration to get a clear, unambiguous goal for your own attempts

you dont actually measure like that (let alone draw them into your construction) when producing pictures. the closest you get is that over time you develop some favorite way of constructing your subject during the sketch phase and some construction lines will most likely fall onto distances that are very clear and neat and easy to eyeball

that being said, a total beginner might be hitting his head against the wall for a prolonged amount of time and be well advised to make measurements like those extensively

Why did I fail?
This anon got a reply
>>6738469
Could it be because he has talent

how do i improve my portraits? i feel like i've been stagnant for a while

>>6738846
Not too bad, aside from minor proportion errors I think the biggest thing holding your heads back is line control. Try drawing with long confident lines.

What do you guys do for warm ups? I started doing straight lines, circles, shapes, etc for like 15 minutes before i actually start working on something.

>>6738755
nice spidey eurobro
>>6738852
some gestures and loose doodles, or simply random boxes

>>6735061
last time posting my shit here i promise.
it'll just leave a bad taste in my mouth if my last post here after years was a random wip.

>>6738765
I was at that point 3 months ago, what helped me was unironically just drawing, and doing tons of timed gesture sessions. As a pre beg when you do gesture, just do 1 minute ones and draw a sphere for the head, an oval for the torso, an oval for the pelvis, and lines for the limbs with circles where the joints are. I did this for maybe 1000 poses and started to make it more detailed. You develop an eye for it. I simply copy the lines like I see them, it takes a long time to accurately copy lines, but you will get there.

>>6737301
Nigga calls other people crabs and says the most crab shit in the thread. You're 1000 times worse than I am bro.

>>6737301
nigga how many years are you gonna spend grinding presorctive and nothing else.
it's ok.
you can move on to other things, please.
grind faces or something

>>6738853
hey! I remember you from asg!

see you always studying and trying motivates me at least do something, even if it's just a copy

thanks for never stopping

when are you going to make a blog?

>>6738877
Dude can't even grind perspective properly, He can at least try anything besides 1-point perspective, or atleast add more than 1 object, but no he's just gonna call other people shit when his art is terrible

>>6738853
what books/courses did you use that led you to eventually draw like this? im pre beg, so just wondering where and how to start

>>6738883
>>6738882
>>6738879

Why did I fail?
>>6738744

>>6738546
look up her character sheet and STOOOODY

i trace hands and call it a day idgaf

>>6737301
>>6738877
>>6738882
He’s one of the most gmi person in here, among a couple others.

If the guy wants to do perspective, who cares. Also his drawings around the notes aren’t bad either, he can draw in circles around most people here.

>>6738879
thanks friend, I really appreciate it, I hope you also continue drawing
every now and then I post some stuff on an old pixiv account
users/14735673

>>6738883
I would recommend watching vippu's video course and reading stonehouse anatomy notes, and then copying the images from morpho's book
I also watched proko's videos on his youtube channel

more from master hide

>>6738904
Nice samefag, you're garbage btw the drawings of faces and perspective are both terrible. But yeah go ahead and pretend you're "gmi" you can't even do 1 point perspective correctly. Here draw some cubes maybe you'll actually learn something.

>>6738904
How about you actually paint something before calling other people's paintings garbage? Rather than posting whatever unproportional dogshit you post.

I've never been so mindbroken, for the first time in a year since i've gotten back to drawing I feel like I can't do it, im just too dumb
Also doing some shelf exercises it's fun to see how it starts well and then along the way it gets more and more fucked up
>>6738731
do you only do these red blobs

>>6738928
>do you only do these red blobs
no but i have been very busy and dont have the time / energy for finished pictures currently

>>6738898
omega based

>>6738931
and the ref used

>>6738931
if that pic is yours then i kneel
keep on drawing red blobs sensei
thoughts on my drawing btw? >>6737934

>>6738214
That's an ape and not a monkey you racist.

Thanks for your help /beg/

Help me get better or else

40 MINUTES WHAT IT TOOK ME ON THE LEFT

AND A TALENTED PERSON ON THE RIGHT

>>6738961
Or else what?

>>6738964
Help me or else

Hello beg, tired. Still i like how every single book has its own set of tricks. Its like everybody has their own set of tricks they use to solve these draw puzzles.

>>6738931
dammit that is good. i kneel
>>6738898
>didnt PYW the traced hands
>>6738897
welcome back, some anons were legit asking about where are you and what do you
>>6738877
this book is almost complete. Then there are 2 more books i would like to breeze through. It is hard to estimate how much time it will take if i never even opened the books but i guess 3 more months for perspective
>>6738865
still kinda blurry but i guess you can call it your style. but why leaving?
>>6738852
i draw
>>6738846
cleaner lines? more rendering? color?
>>6738765
the more you draw the less you need to actively think about proportions. Your eye skill and your hand/eye coordination skill levels up so you need to think less and less about these things. So yeah, advice is: just draw
>>6738755
that spiderthing in background is super funny and SOUL maxed
>>6738602
can confirm: noses are truly the most mysterious part of face.
>>6738475
thumbs up
>>6738326
i like drawing zoomed at 50% so 3840x2160 on your monitor minimum (zoom 100% for details)
>>6738435
when you take away lipstick, long lashes, fashion, fancy haircut... then kinda yeah, the differences between male and female skull / face arent THAT big. Not to mention there are plenty of women with man's face and vice versa.
>>6738226
keys to drawing. In case its too hard or scary then drawing for the utter beginner. good luck!
>>6738016
cute, appealing, simple. thumbs up!
>>6737616
i would suggest making character to be more eye catching than the bush behind him. like this its like you are botanist and you decided last second to spice up your study of X tree with anime thot
>>6738874
i am sorry if my crit antagonized you, but we are in /beg. if you want hugbox, try tumblr or something

>>6738981
Why do you ignore me.
>>6738961

>>6738961
what are you trying to prove exactly?
that more talented people than you exist?
we knew that.
that you suck at art?
we knew that.
yes, some people have it easier than you, yes you will have to grind for years and years only to get outdone by some random talented 15 year old, don't like it? quit.

>>6738984
I cant improve at all because I have no talent
Why?
I did KTD, loomis, more and more

So why do i draw worse than someone who never learned
Why do i never improve

>>6737934
>>6738937
im not good enough on detailed anatomy and realistic muscles to judge it well, all i could critique would be the presentation
lines are not clean, make them either more precise or more sketchy
background feels too rough / unfinished and distracts from the figure
partially because figure contains concrete linework, but the background has either no lines at all (sky) or feels like a different style of using lines for shading (ground)
using soft shading on the figure and simultaneously using lines on the surface to indicate muscles / form (which is the abstraction of a simplified frontal soft light) does not harmonize well. i myself am not confident in that regard, i would suggest either making the shading a bit more clear, strong, simple so it "feels closer" to the line work - or using softer hatching on those muscle lines instead of solid lines
and varied lineweight would fit into that equation somehow but that again is still largely hit-or-miss for me.
your lines do vary in strength, but it seems to be less conscious and more incidental. maybe you need to work on that, or maybe you already know how to do it and need merely to make it more obvious and vary the line strength more extremely
also the face is much simpler than the body which creates a feeling of disconnectedness. consider adding simple shading or hatching on the face too.
all of those issues have some subjective quality to them. it is up to you how to resolve them, there is no clear right answer.

also thank you for your kind post! dont be mistaken though, that is the best example on a good day of copying a ref that inspired me. i chose it specifically because it avoids my weaknesses in order to focus on and experiment with my workflow and rendering. for every pic like that i have 3 that i have abandoned and ruined whatever soul there was lol. and dont get me started on pictures from imagination

>>6738731
>>6737180
I did a lot of painting copies from both photos and life.Doing that will force you internalize lighting, color, value, temperature and edgework automatically. More so if you do it from life because you have to interpret and process more information. Photos are moreso for shape and composition, as the image is selected for you by a person. Ideally your own photos or well shot films are best. I suck ass at drawing though, you can only paint as well you can draw, still working on that....

>>6738981
Nice I use Krita too, have you tried using the perspective tool it has or are you just trying to freehand stuff?

>>6738731
thanks for the criticism anon, really appreciate it!
will work on my lineart, it's a pain the ass but it's has to be done

Can someone redline her hips? I spent an hour trying to figure them out with no luck

>>6738995
I gotchu king

>>6739001
Shit is that for real?

>>6738988
Hey thanks for the crit, that's a lot more than I excepted
Yeah my presentation sucks ass, I really need to just start by shamelessly aping some artist like daroemon until I make it
I also wonder if it's even possible to get good lines with my shitty ass tablet, I draw with an old "bamboo pen and touch" tablet, you can check the specs on that beast yourself.

>>6738995

>>6739020
Thanks anon, appreciate this. Will try applying it, what was really getting me is on her right where the ribs meet intersect with the curve coming up from the hips to form the T shape. I will just have to keep grinding

>>6739004
>"bamboo pen and touch"
nta but why are you poor? Just buy an xp pen deco for 60 bucks

>>6739034
Is it that much of an improvement?
And yeah im poor lol

>>6739039
It is, you need more space so you can use your arm to draw, don't your wrists start hurting? Also the newer tablets are way more precise and sensitive

Lineart traditionally is 100x harder than digital. If I even slightly mess up the entire drawing is ruined. So I have to make 100 copies of the pencil drawing just in case

>>6739051
lightbox and tracing paper anon

>>6739039
>Is it that much of an improvement?
Yes, the newer one with X3 stylus. It's on sale on Amazon right now too. You'll be pleasantly surprised for the low price, don't listen to the schizo shill in the drawing tablet thread.

>tfw captcha

>>6738935
Source?

>>6739051
>If I even slightly mess up the entire drawing is ruined.
Not really

>>6738931
i was wondering what your finished prices looked like

very impressive red blob sensei, you’re definitely gmi

Any crit (yes I know the face is too wide)

>>6739004
>>6739034
>>6739039
>>6739046
>>6739059
i agree
chinese knock offs are one or two technology iterations behind wacom, but they are the same apart from that. literally the same, just rebranded.
i had a xp pen deco 03 until its battery shit the bed and i had to keep it wired permanently, then constant cable bending killed it.
after that i bought a deco 01 (same tablet but without the wireless bullshit) and taped the cable in a stable position to the tablets side.
deco 03 lasted exactly 2 years. deco 01 is chugging over 3 years now.
when this one breaks im buying another xp pen.

>>6739060
ending credits of "highschool of the dead" the character is takagi (tsundere). if you pick it up, watch subs. the english VAs are good, but some characters feel significantly different in their personalities in english.

>>6739064
thank you! it is nice to hear praise like that

>>6739062
>>6739058
Are you telling me I'm retarded and am doing it wrong

>>6739077
>>6739046
Found a used one for 30$, tempting, i bought my current tablet (which was still used) for like 40$ but that was years ago
>>6738991
>You can paint only as well as you can draw
Thank you blobanon, now I have an excuse to stay in my comfort zone and not study rendering

>>6739107
sephiroth if girl

>>6738981
Rather than saying "shading is bad" you can say add more hard edges and then tell the person where to add more hard edges. Your crit is fucking worthless dude. Not to mention you're much worse than me so why would I listen to you? You can't even paint in the first place. Here try to actually tell me where to fix the shading and I'll actually try, but you saying "get better at shading lol" doesn't help me at all.

>>6739100
>Thank you blobanon, now I have an excuse to stay in my comfort zone and not study rendering
kek

also
>Thank you blobanon
that particular post wasnt me, i think it was dragon painting guy

lol fuck this bs is not worth my time

>>6739123

rough pencil before I ink my jin kazama art, any critique?

>>6739111
lol
does it look goofy though? the story is supposed to be somewhat serious

>>6739134
What type of story? Are they supposed to be an antagonist?

>>6739135
horror story where she is the victim but fucked up mentally

>>6739144
Hard to say then with what is there, the body is fine but will need face expressions that help convey that

rate my dwarf fortress entrance

>>6736879
not to shit on you anon but this is the sort of stuff i can do in 1 minute
try working 30-90 seconds to focus more on basic shapes youll start to pick out patterns in body parts

>>6737121
idk why but the eyes kind of creep me out

>>6738294
Anon that's adorable. You're gonna make it.

>>6738897
It's you! You're back! I missed you. I really enjoy your style.

>>6739168
Your windows aren't following the buildings perspective.

>>6738925
Bro... Your own cubes don't even follow 1 point perspective.

Untimed gesture(?) drawings

>>6739291
More. BONUS: literally the first ever attempt to draw anything remotely anime-esque

>>6739295
Plus some octopi just so I actually draw something that’s not just fucking grinding fundies

>>6738723
Yeah, I just don't think that workflow is your biggest issue right now.
I frankly don't even understand what issue you're having. Did it take you inordinately long to draw that? Did you get into a situation where fixing the drawing would be incredibly difficult because of some decision with layers you made earlier? What's the problem you're trying to fix? Because like I said, new brushes aren't going to help with the anatomy.

>30likes and 10 rts
is it a good ratio

>>6739168
Admiring advanced dwarven tech, building fortresses with impossible geometry.

>>6739199
i posted this and >>6713689 two weeks ago though

>>6739241
holy cope

is there a course (specifically course, not a book) that completely breaks down the basics for complete beginners (think kids and retards) step by step so i can check things off and know when i can advance?

>>6739433
Which basics.

>>6739433
Brent Eviston's video course.

>>6739433
Brent Eviston.

>>6739438
drawing basics, i don't even know where to begin honestly and the sticky is super confusing and contradicting itself sometimes
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>>6739448
got a link for poorfags?

>>6739453
https://online-courses.club/brent-eviston-art-and-science-of-drawing/

>>6739474
cheers mate

>>6738983
because you are shitposter, take your meds
>>6738993
i already used it for some pieces. but ideally i want to be able to do it freehand in reasonable quality
>>6739114
as you said it yourself, i am no master in rendering myself. it is easier to point out mistakes than correcting them. but your air brush just doesnt work. that is for sure. her leg, belly, armpit, ass... it all looks uncanny valley.

use reference and use some real brush and paint the form using lighter and darker colors where you actually show the form. not like this where you imply torso is just 1 big cylinder. because it isnt.

pic related. check how drastic is the difference in values between left and right side of her body. it goes from white-pink to essentially black and how knees, elbows and such have hard edges due to lighting. your pic has NONE of that. Also her hair. You painted it like its a solid helm. Hair has texture which is anything but uniform.

tldr ditch air brush, its clearly kneecapping you.

>>6739114
not even the shading, the hips are all wrong

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