/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

chinpo tutorial

>>6737412
another example of some seething clout-chasing coom artist seizing an opportunity to call another coom artist racist to get some clout for himself. unfortunately for him he's too stupid to realize that he's made himself a target for another sociopath to devour, and so the cycle continues

>>6737419
a coomouroboros

>>6737412
>>6737419
Don't let the racism accusations distract you from the fact that both these profile setups are fucking incorrect.

>>6737422
coomroboros

>>6737424
>both these profile setups are fucking incorrect

Is the pic the original tutorial or some kind of parody/edit? If it's the original, what's wrong with it?

>>6737419
Many such cases.
quick run down?

>>6737412
>the eastoid fears the chadjaw

Nochinnojawbros...
We won.

>>6737412
Literally who

>>6737434
Black people typically have a jaw that looks more like the one on the right. It's considered extremely bad form to compare black people to monkeys and apes.

There's also something to be said about learning the "right way" to draw faces and bodies, since everyone has different proportions, skull shapes, etc.

>gorilla lookin mf
lul

>>6737417
Kdm manko tutorial

>>6737500
I've seen a lot of people complain that het tutorials are too stylized for beginners and I can see their point.

>>6737512
isnt her style just generic manhwa style?

>>6737412

>>6737412
I've seen people's art after taking tips from her and they all just end up looking the same :I

Koleen is the first to admit she's not a "real" artist and she only does it for the clout
Her videos are fun but if you take them serious you're a real retard

>>6737589
In all seriousness kill yourself you fucking moron, take your own life
Imagine that you goon to hentai so fucking hard that you become a racist, how fucking pathetic and retarded is that? You need to kill yourself instantly

>>6737412
a bit exaggerated but the point of the tutorial is to think of the face as more angular and not so flat. your lips aren't the same distance out as your nose, not even the most chad jawed people
a common beg trait is making the face flat and i assume that this is more for women faces, who arer more attractive when they don't have a flat monkey face

>>6737412
>dumb retard on twitter says something dumb and retarded

>>6738191
It's a meme, you dip

Of course this is the one thing to make Twitter users realize Kooleen is just a /beg/ with a following

>>6737412
Art of the dude in picrel, by the way.

>>6738215
/beg/?

>>6737419
>unfortunately for him he's too stupid to realize that he's made himself a target for another sociopath to devour, and so the cycle continues

Kek

>>6737412
>a perma /beg/ shits on another perma /beg/
Never seen someone actually good at art shit on another artist. It's always perma /beg/s

>>6738215
kek I love how the white characters get all their features exaggerated but the black one only gets a pointy chin and cranium.
You can tell he was too much of a pussy to exaggerate the nose and lips size in fear of being called a racist lol.

>>6737412
>Lads don't do shit like this
>mfw I do

>>6738221
>yea.......this is very wrong
I love the internet phenomena of digging random stuff on people you don't like to build a crusade.

>>6737412
>Kooleen sucks
Go back to tiktok, I'm sick of hearing about this bs art drama

>>6738212
If you actually try to help these people by recommending them actual proper sources to study they flip out on you and try to cancel you because HOW DARE YOU INVALIDATE THIS TUTORIAL!?!?!?!? THERE'S NO ONE WAY TO DRAW
Just point and laugh

>>6737412
Oh sweet
Another racism thread by hyperfixating on skull shapes.

>>6738191
You triggered, snowflake? lmfao

>>6738221
15 year-olds sexualize themselves.

>>6737412
Lol roach is seething

>>6738215
Kek nice drawing of bling bling boy

>>6739085
Good, let them do that in peace

>>6737500
>Black people typically have a jaw that looks more like the one on the right
nogs have lower faces that protrude way further out than that
pic very much related

>>6738197
No

>>6737587
Yes and everyone has the exact same face
She drew a portrait of pokimane and it didn't fucking look like her lmfao. She isn't good enough to be giving tutorials about anything except maybe rendering portraits in her style.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_DiO0y6BZbE

>>6738221
Haha. Clout chasing faggots should get themselves witch hunted all the same.

>>6738191
I'm guessing what set off this seizure was the use of the word "negroid," I for one am ecstatic at the thought that the "diversity crowd" is coming full circle to the realization that to erase racism, you must erase blacks . Don't draw em, don't talk about em, everyone use separate facilities, don't look at em, everyone consume different media even. Yep. Just like MLK (My Little Kingodemia) told me.

>>6737412
mouthbreather subverting susceptible masses with illusion of power. Many such cases!

It seems inevitable that at some point in your art career someone will find something to accuse you of racism over. Subtle things that wouldn't occur to a normal person. That's what is scary about it you can be doing everything the way twitter tells you and then all of a sudden out of nowhere there's drama.

>>6740488
This is one of the more interesting posts I've seen here, and this is the second time I dropped by this week.

>draw colorless anime
>call it a gorilla
DAS RAYCIS
Niggers, not even once.
But I won't defend the rando in OP's pic, since he types like one of them anyway, might as well be treated like the subhuman he aspires to be.

>>6738191
Here's a tutorial for you.

>>6740488
>My Little Kingodemia
kek'd

>>6738940
But it's true. Skull-shape determines the race, not the skin color. Pic-rel.

>>6740607
>skull shape is the sole determinant
retard, i bet you also think that there are only four races

>>6739527
>Cherry picked extremes.

>>6740664
Qell being a tranny like (You) isnt a race type, cope, seethe, only 2 genders.

>>6740866
>muh cherrypicking
lol lmao

>>6740880
>trannyism is when you realize there are more than 4 race types
stupid illiterate yakubite

>>6740883
I can find examples where white people have protruding jaws and black people with neoteny features.
And yes, that would be cherry picking on my side.
My point still stands. You are just blinded by your racism.

>>6739527
>>6740866
>>6740888

Nicki Minaj is mixed race btw. Black, Chinese, Indian

>>6737412
Wow that image is racist
Just because blacks have prognathism doesn't mean they're gorillas

>>6740888
Cool. Now, PROPORTIONALLY which population displays neoteny more often? Now, which population displays gorilla nigger monkey jaw more often?
>"But ypipo commit crime too!!!"
literally your argument

>>6738212
>>6738750
He's literally just mad that he knows it's true he looks like a gorilla

is that the cunt on youtube that draws the korea cringe

>>6738221
like fucking clockwork

>>6740884
You will never be a woman.

>>6740976
>>6740888
Racism doesnt exist.

>>6740976
>Wow that image is racist
Stop being over-sensitive, it's just lightly funny

>>6741022
This site is 18+. Don't you have homework to do?

>>6740888
post some then, let's seem em

>neoteny
So you anons are saying... the flatter the face, the more pedophilic? I see, I see...
But please don't cry when your racist toys are taken away.
>6740488
To erase racism, we must erase Nazi sympathizers like yourself. Many are found on this garbage can of a site. Erase your barbaric behavior or you'll be erased. Also kys.
t. not an American

>>6737412
I thought Kooleen was cringe before but now I know she's based af

>>6740980
My argument is that the differences arent' as big as that example wants to make you think. Thisi is why I said he cherry picked EXTREME examples.
Most white people don't have neoteny THAT extreme, and most blacks don't have protruding jaws THAT extreme.
But obviously, there's no sense in debating with a delusional racist.
Have your fun.

>>6740607
Exactly, that's how you determine who is an uberhuman aryan like pic rel

>>6739195
the psychology of the twattershit migrant is fascinating to behold

>>6737412
>gook hack vs roach hack

>>6741217
>My argument is that the differences arent' as big as that example
BUT THEY ARE
We are literally, by our own definitions of the word, a different species. Genetically. This is a fact by our OWN DEFINITIONS of what separates species. Different species look different. Shut the fuck up I'm so sick of this retardation.

>>6741261
Cool. Now, PROPORTIONALLY which population displays neoteny more often? Now, which population displays gorilla nigger monkey jaw more often?

People who want to be actual artists never took Kooleen seriously. Only tards who simply draw "UGUU PRETTY GIRL/HANDSOME GUY WITH GODAWFUL SHADING ON WHITE BACKGROUND" follow her word as if she's God. In Kooleen's defense most of her videos are satire but unfortunately some artists are autistic and don't understand sarcasm.

>6741721
First day on earth? Please crawl back into your mother, your brain is not yet ready.
>6741724
The child rapist population displays neoteny more often. It's in their genes to find babies sexually attractive.
See, this game can be played both ways. Still wanna play or wanna try to be a decent human being? :-)

Oh, look, another thread with a bunch of idiots sperg about the fact that not every human profile looks the exact same and not knowing tutorials are simply a generic base to be altered.

>>6741261
The jaw still juts, this specimen is just a chinlette

>>6740888
cope
seethe
and don't forget to dilate on your way back to tumblr

>>6738191
Based

>>6741833
You
Will
Never
Be
Asian

>>6739085
get out of my fucking face you disgusting mongrel freak. stay away from children

>>6738191
We all know what kind of faces you want

>>6742030
>you will never be a slit eyed manlet
Lmao what a comeback there tranny

>>6738191
(You)

>>6740888
Cope and sneed

>>6741724
>>6741827
You know i wasnt talking about the jaw you dumb faggots

>6742609
>Racism doesn't exist. Evil doesn't exist. The world is perfect and just, exactly like Lord Almighty made it. It's always the others who are bad people.
Kill yourself you soulless chunk of meat and don't forget to take your parents with you. There is a special place waiting for you in the afterlife.

>>6741721
different species can't reproduce together btw. So no. We're the same species babe, we just look different.

>>6741151
someone having a younger looking face doesn't make them a pedo you absolute brainlet

>>6742611
what is this gif supposed to convey? There are body builders of every race and nationality. Why would the black person be upset about seeing a white bodybuilder? literally the most decorated mr. Olympias are both black.

Anyway this topic has gone way off track. I'm gonna go draw.

>>6742641
Neoteny evolved through the sexual selection for young and young-looking partners. So yes, that would make you a pedo and child rapist if you say you're more neotenic than other populations. It's literally in your DNA. :-)

See how that works? Many mean and racist things can be said if we don't use our brains and are led by an internalized sense of superiority. Just fyi, when scientists speak of neoteny in humans, they speak of it in comparison to other animal species. Not in comparison between humans. But the racist's modus operandi is
>my race=good, neoteny=good, my race=more neotenic, my race=more good
because of their simple-minded inferiority/superiority complex and racism. :-)

>>6738212
Art, idealized and stylized? It can’t fucking be!
This borek fucker sounds like an idiot.

>>6740466
man I'm so out of touch with today's youth

It's amusing to see zoomers trying to argue for shit that /ic/ had figured out over 15 years ago.

Human appearance is a product of genetics. Certain genetic configurations are more common than others, and they manifest visually. We call those common configurations "races" or "ethnicities". If you want a deeper explanation, go talk to a geneticist who doesn't have pronouns in their bio. tldr: Black people look different from Asians.

Now for most people, even most creatives, this isn't an issue; A writer, for example, can essentially write any character and give them whatever appearance they want. But as artists, we have at least some obligation to depict reality in an accurate manner, and reality is the antithesis of the prog. To that extent, the ability to depict the races in a recognizable manner is an acid test for most artists. The result of failing that acid test is either >>6738215 or >>6742357. Avoidance at best, willful ignorance at worst. Even a crude and unflattering caricature (e.g. /pol/ comics) passes this test better than many professional level artists who are afraid of receiving unsolicited gender affirming care.

If you want to be a progressive activist, your ability to be an artist will suffer, because you will attract the kind of people who will eat you alive if you dare do anything even remotely beyond the pale. If you want an example of this, see that recent twitter shitshow with fieroo1225 depicting Miles Morales as too pale because of a slightly questionable lighting choice.

It's not worth it.

>>6737412
nigga face on the right

>>6742719
are you schizophrenic? please go touch grass

>>6742766
>ad hominem
>no argument, at all
I accept your concession.

>>6742719
>The status quo of human society is reality. It's an objective truth. Society is just. Nothing should change, everything is perfect as it is and based on TRUTH.
This is why we can't economize on education, or we get people like this who have the thought process of an object.

>>6741217
>>6740976
>>6740664
>>6742650
>>6742644
>>6742631

Also ai will replace you tumblr faggots

>>6737419
Lmao i didn't even realize this was about niggers instead of if being a bad tutorial

>>6742631
Actually untrue, the categorization for species is fairly arbitrary and only roughly correlates to being able to have fertile offspring. There are even cases where species A and B, B and C can create fertile offspring but A and C cannot.

>>6739527
That's just bad posture

>>6742766
literally every single statement I made in that post is correct
>>6742776
meds

>>6742719
I wonder what pokemon that Italian man is selling

>>6742795
Well it's not arbitrary for humans when all humans around the world can create fertile offspring together, but not with other species.

It's baffling to know that racists like in this thread are still walking among us. Have you guys not learned anything? Why have your minds reverted back over 100 years ago to the primitive days of scientific racism?

>>6742823
NTA but it's a meaningless semantic debate
If doesn't matter if you say breed or species or ethnicity or race or phenotype any other meme word
The point is simply that the distribution of human genetic traits is not uniform, and that every attempt to ignore that fact is motivated by what is ostensibly religion

>>6742836
It's not meaningless. In biology, race and species mean two very different things. All humans are the same species and it's inane to deny that. Race is the only arbitrary concept.
The point is simply that the difference in genetics is much less than the commonality in genetics between human populations, and every attempt to ignore that fact is motivated by what is ostensibly a learned inferiority/superiority complex.

>>6742864
You are not in a biological ethics class, you're on a basket weaving subreddit
This entire discussion is about genetically driven visual differences between people
The claim that humans are more similar than they are different is masturbatory virtue signaling driven by your religious fear that if we don't deny the observable differences between people then the Racist Oven Man might reincarnate and gas you for being too gay
Take your meds and learn to draw black people

>>6742876
If you follow down the chain you'll see that this discussion actually started when some braindead said that human ethnicities are different species. The simple truth is that every human on earth is a mongrel of uncertain origins, that people share a lot with each other even if they look slightly different, that tightly categorizing groups of people based on arbitrary features is racist and misanthropic.
The Racist Oven Man was unfortunately also a human, so he might as well come back as there are already quite a few contenders eager to take his mantle. Let's not trivalize the cruel history and the behavior that led to it, shall we?

>>6742909
>tightly categorizing groups of people based on arbitrary features is racist and misanthropic.
Depending on how charitably I choose to interpret it, this statement is either fairly reasonable or unfathomably retarded
Tell you what
I am willing to be charitable in my interpretation of that statement if you are willing to draw me a caricature of a black man
It does not have to be high in quality or skill but it does have to be accurate enough that if a group of progressives saw it, it'd get you dogpiled for racism

>>6742631
>different species can't reproduce together
lions and tigers
grizzlies and polar bears
wolves and coyotes
orcas and dolphins
humans and subhumans

>>6742996
How many of those actually produce fertile offspring? I imagine the wolf coyote would be, but I was under the impression ligers were sterile

>>6742792
That's the thing, it wasn't. A protruding jaw really is more ape like and.... black people are more ape like. So they're mad about him just pointing out an easily available observation

>>6742650
You're both wrong. You and the racist. Blacks have more neotenic features than Whites and Asians are more neotenic than both of them. Look up an anthropological journal about it instead of spouting psuedoscience based on American stereotypes about blacks

>>6740976
only something like 30% of African Americans have prothagnism from a 1990s study. More common than in Europeans but not 99%

>>6742650
Neoteny scales: Asians > Africans > Europeans > Aboriginal. Europeans are the least neotenous people after Aboriginal Australians. They are a gerantomorphic race actually

>>6741827
her lips are the one jutting out.

>>6739527
>>6740607
The amerilard race-baiting faggot is too afraid to insult his BBC overlord so he directs his hatred for the black race on black women... Dios mio

Everybody shut the fuck up and post blacks

>>6742864
>All humans are the same species and it's inane to deny that.
This is literally incorrect by our own definition of what separates species genetically. The fixation distance between Caucasians and sub-Saharan Africans is about the same as that between wolves and coyotes. We are actually, literally, by definition a separate species.

>>6743000
all groups exhibit ape like traits to a degree. heavy brow ridges and hairiness is a primitive feature that is absent in blacks and present in Austronesian and Caucasoid. Anyway this derailment was an excuse to go on about your deranged niggerhates that American farts can never STFU about

>>6742999
it depends on which is the father and which is the mother
I believe that a male tiger and female lion make fertile offspring
Grolar bears too
Look up fish hybridization in aquaculture, you see a lot of the same
Wolf dogs are also fertile, it really depends on the two species being bred and the specific parents

>>6743020
prove it lying faggot
Pca charts scaling difference between candids grades it by over 400 to 800 degrees of separation while for human ethnicities it's 0.04 to 0.08

funny how 4chan is full of retarded sexually impotent American farts who can never shut the fuck up about their obsession with blacks, but I get banned for "wacism" as soon as I say Americans are dogshit retarded trash subhumans kek

>>6742631

A black person as drawn by a prog artist on twitter terrified of being devoured by their own fanbase

>>6743040
>Abos are genetically closer related to Whites than East Asians are
Well then, it's settled. White men should fuck Aboriginal pussy instead of Asian pussy (which is bestiality)

>>6743042
Blacks only look like extreme Pgymy skulls-ACK!

>>6739527
I guess Anglos and Poles are negros then

>>6743042
Even in the late 90s I predicted that progs would eventually go down the route of segregation. Eventually the brain rot will see deep enough that actual black people will be demanding to be played or represented by what are essentially Europeans but with the MS Paint fill tool set to mahogany and applied to their skin.

>>6743063
i agree, azns are just as far asway from whites as nogs are, white men should realize wanting to fuck jap qts is bestiality and fuck pajeetas and abo kweens instead

>>6743072
the drawing looks like a mongoloid man, are you fucking dumb?
whites have recessed chins and beak noses while mongoloid men have square jaws and big mandibles with high cheekbones

>>6743076
LOL right??? the average white "male" has a super recessed chin with a gross tuncan nose LOL they wish they had mongoloid golden genes

>>6740607
this is how you actually look btw
>>6743073
More like, whites are actually the animals while Asians are the only real humans

>>6743073

>>6743102

>>6743103

>>6743030
see: >>6743040

>>6738191
All the best artists are racist
ngmi

>>6743102
Would you look at that
East Asians and Subsaharan Africans are furthest away from Caucasians, East Africans and Oceanians are closer to West Eurasians than East Asians are. How will you cope?

>>6743114
With what?

>>6743104
>>6743103
>>6743102
Read your own fucking chart
Genetic difference between candids goes as far as 1000+ difference on the axis, genetic difference between human ethnic groups is far as 0.8 which means its SMALLER.
Your statement that negroids and caucasoids are as distance from each other as coyotes and dogs is objectively false. You'd make a better comparison with ancient hominids and modern hominids.

>>6743114
>>6743120

>>6743117
I'm pretty sure modern white supremacists won't admit Ethiopians and Oceanic people are closer to them than honorary Aryan japanese are kek

>>6743124
>>6743125
look again

>>6743128
Yes, Japanese are mixed race between ancient Ainu ancestry and Mongoloid DNA from China.
However, they still are further away from Europeans than Ethiopians, Oceanics are. And Europeans are clustered closest to South Asians and Middle Easterners.
>>6743102
.>>6743073

Ricel thread

>>6743139
so then why did white men fuck any non-white woman they could?
do you think the parental west eurasian dna from native americans and african americans came out of nowhere?

>>6743120
shut the fuck up
we're separate species, you wouldn't even have a concept of "species" because the White man invented it for you

>>6743076
That drawing has nothing to do with his point lmao

>>6743150
Imbecile

>>6743150
>American can't read because his "educational" system
Lol!
Lmao even!
>1 means they have (((nothing in common)))
>all the values are under 1
LOOOOL retarded burgerclap, go back to shoving shit up your ass

>he calls himself an artist
>is racist
uhh... sweaty?
this is why ai is taking over your work lmao

>>6743112
all the mentally ill autistic poltards have no creative or artistic talent, precisely why they're retarded to think everyone is exactly the same carbon copy of each other
it's the same deal with blackpiller retards

Why haven't mods deleted this thread yet? there isn't any actual productive discussion of art

>>6743261
>>6743265
lots of insults but no argument
so to recap
>you're mad on the internet
>writing in the English language
>using electricity
>on a computer
>in an air conditioned building
>your food is delivered on paved roads
>and grown using agricultural methods refined over the last three centuries
You know what all those things have in common? You can thank the White man for them.

>>6743275
Anatomy is one of the core fundies. Any artist worth their salt would take note of the skull structure differences between the races. Any artist worth their salt would NOTICE THEM, no matter how "offensive" this reality is.

>>6743288
it sounds like you are trying to get a rise out of me? But from what ive seen in this thread both sides of absolute retards with no one arguing in good faith.

>>6743284
>uh uh its a different subspecies, dis pic is proof!
>his shitty ""point"" is btfo'd
>shows me the same pca plots i was posting to proof genetic distance is the same among east asians and africans to europeans
keep moving the goalposts because you can't read and flunked out of 5th grade faggot. remember sperging about blacks online won't get you a white girlfriend kek

>>6743306
*prove

All the best artists are ra-ACK!

>>6743299
No, I don't give a fuck what you think. I'm pointing out the literal fact that there are several human species on the planet right now.

>>6743306
You didn't disprove any of my points. I said there are several species of human on the planet. That's a fact, according to our own definition of the word.

>>6743265
"nothing in common" in this instance means literally not a species from this planet
fucking nigger or woman, kill yourself

>>6743334
except everyone who studies this disagree with you, whereas you got schizo beliefs
you made a retarded claim that blacks and whites were as different as each other as coyotes and dogs, you were proven wrong so you spam pca plots which show no more than a -0.8 genetic difference as best
>>6743336
You're going to end up killing yourself anyway, after all the reason why American males are so bitter and angry is because their woman would rather fuck a dog or a horse over them

>BRINGING UP BLACKIES IS GONNA MAKE A WHITE GIRL FUCK ME OVER TYRONNNNE AND CHAAAAAD

American "men" are pathetic, no wonder you go tranny!

why so many leftists on this site now ?

>>6743380
>UHH IF YOU DONT LIKE POLTARDS OBSESSING OVER THEIR AUTISM YOURE A LEFTIST
lmao

>open /ic/ for the first time in 5 years
>see this thread
What did happen to this place?

>>6743416
chuds ruin everything.

>>6737412
nah i always knew she was shit
at her teaching
>Verification not required

>>6743358
>except everyone who studies this disagree with you
This guy is leading Harvard geneticist and he agrees with me.
Furthermore, I've studied it myself.

>>6743358
FST between wolves/coyotes is 0.153
FST between humans/subhumans is 0.153
You didn't prove anyone wrong, you refused to look at the actual literal facts.
I trust the science. This is what the experts are saying. You need to stop spreading this disinformation. Get your hekkin booster, faggot.

>>6743437
haha actual schizo