/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6725511
What's the price range I should be aiming for when looking for a tablet? The tablet generals are these shitflinging messes I can't extract an answer from.

How valid is your opinion?

>>6725569
screenless 50-100 bucks
screen 150-200 bucks

Bumping from last thread >>6725703

>>6725577
>tfw my tablet costs 2.5k

>>6725569
Depends on the size you want, I think I paid around 600€ for my screen tablet, but it's 24 inches and 1440p so the size really pumped up the price.

You can of course buy a Cintiq like the other anon and pay several thousand but it doesn't seem worth it unless you're someone that draws professionally or you are a very active hobbyist.

Also something to consider, I have both a screenless and a screen tablet, and the screenless feels far better to draw on with better precision and lower activation force so if you don't absolutely want a screen tablet you can get a better experience with a screenless. That's assuming you can get used to not drawing the same way you draw traditionally.

>>6725577
>screen 150-200 bucks
Used one you mean. Right?

To anyone that uses Krita, what are the best settings/brushes/options i can set to if i wanted to partially mimick the style of Carlos Ezquerra?
Because i hate how flat my drawings usually are and i want to make the brush strokes seem more dynamic and the color shading/blending a bit more interesting.
Or any other tips using Krita is nice, i just mentioned Ezquerra because i think his style is charming.
And chances are some stuff is less about the tools and more about the skill, so maybe i should look into artists streaming/recording themselves using Krita and how they do it.

i want a regimented art program i can follow to get good as fast as possible, what should i do?

>>6726879
if you can find an expensive one used for that much then yeah. pc specs are more important for digital drawing than tablet price. you don't need to shill out thousands of dollars just to draw. at that point you're just paying for a name brand than anything.

anyone else have trouble with running out of space on the page?
any suggestions so that you dont do this?

>>6727276
extend cavass size

Any storyboard artists here? How the fuck do you set up your portfolio so that you can flip through your boards with arrow keys? I can't find that function on squarespace, and I've been googling for an hour. No results. Did I fuck up by signing up for squarespace? Was I supposed to use another website designer?

>>6726874
One thing to keep in mind is the Cintiq screen is 4k and gorgeous too so I can use it as a replacement for a monitor as well

>>6727475
never used squarespace but if it allows custom javascript you could ask chatgpt to do it if u don't know how to code
before doing that though, navigation of images via arrow keys seems like something that should definitely be possible with the given user tools, just keep looking

how long does rsi wrist take to heal?

>>6727655
and how long does it take to learn to darw with the left hand?

>>6727599
That's fair. I use my screen tablet as a second monitor too but the contrast is a bit lacking which is probably my biggest annoyance right after the activation force being a bit too high for my tastes.
Speaking of which, what's the activation force on a cintiq like? I'd like something that is as close to traditional as possible, meaning if I touch the pen on the screen even lightly it leaves a mark.

>>6727928
Just tried it and it worked even when I wasn't pushing down, you'll have to adjust the pressure because it might be too light but it does register

how possible is it to actually put a stop to AI art?
can't ask in those threads they are full of shitposting

it doesn't seem possible to go back even though people talk about legislation

What texture is this?

>>6728202
Cardboard box. Are you blind or supid btw?

>>6728205
Do you have autism? Honestly asking because I know someone with autism and they act like you.

>>6728205
Not all of us had access to cardboard growing up mister gucci loafers

>>6728207
Blind and stupid then. Got it.

>>6728208
>>6728207
Pederasty. Classic new /ic.

>>6728211
chat-GPT post, classic nu-/ic/

guys, i have a small project on artistic knowledge, but what bothers me, - i'm not a participant of this school, I only was thought by people who graduated from there, would my knowledge and me to be authority, or it's worthless and just amateur?

>>6728215

>>6727276
Draw a straight line down the middle that's as big as you want your drawing to be, and draw on top of that.

>>6727276
lmao, get gud
actually it's a sign you don't know what the composition is, you need to know the sizes before you even start drawing

>>6728248
elaborate

>>6725511
>>6709969
Something about the usability of CSP pisses me off for some reason. Does anyone feel the same? Drawing feels fine but interfacing with CSP feels like a flimsy mess. I can't describe it. CSP to me feels like gold paint on a house of toothpicks. Any anons switch from CSP to PS or Krita?

>>6725511
How do I even learn to draw? Let's say I have 20 minutes a day. How do I split this up between practicing drawing, "consuming" art, and studying?
My current method is to go onto Wikimedia commons and download pictures of jewelry that I like. Then I try to draw the jewelry. Haven't even started this yet, am total art beginner. Just saved a bunch of pics.

Just throwing shit at the wall, give me any advice you have. Thanks

>>6728416
>20 minutes a day?
Wtf are you doing the rest of the day if you can't spare a single hour?
Give up your hope of drawing anything with 20 minutes - hell give up learning anything if all you have is 20 minutes

Go back to doomscolling tiktok or YouTube instead you don't have the stomach to improve yourself

>>6728436
I work full-time and am also a published scientific author for the work I did as a programmer, and I still do programming as well. I exercise every single day too.

Nigga I have TWENTY MINUTES
WAT DO

>>6728447
>WAT DO
Give up on this pursuit, or find more time.

>>6728447
I think a better question is if all that is true then why the fuck do you want to draw?

Keep programming and writing science journals it's clearly where your skillset lies
That or I struck a nerve and you are just a doomscolling zoomer - because I'm married to a published author in the business sector and once it's published it adds no additional workload to their life

>>6725511
going to copy loomis' figure drawing book and sheeit. thoughts?

>>6728476
Sure see you in a week when you've given up

>>6728485
ok see ya

>>6728453
>>6728469
women should not be able to vote

I'm going to get a large Blick Brush marker set in the near future, but in the meantime I want to get a smaller set. I've found:
>Ohuhu 48 count ~ $40 New
>W&N 49 count ~ $60 used
Which one should I go with? I like Winsor and Newton, and I havent tried Ohuhu yet

>>6728810
$60 would get me seven W&N promarkers at a store in Leafland. If they are in good condition I would go for it.

Hi, can someone tell me what brush nardack is using around the 0:10 mark? I want to know how they blend those edges to be soft like that. I can't seem to replicate it with default blend/blur tools in csp. Or maybe it's a specific technique https://twitter.com/Nardack/status/1508091994010435586r22xm

If I found a reference image I liked, say a naked small chested woman sitting down but the only issue with the reference was that I wanted to make her chest much bigger what would be the best thing to do? Should I just use that same image as reference for the pose and try my best to make her breasts bigger in my drawing or should I find another reference in a similar pose with a bigger chest?

>>6729161
Use the first
There's a reason why construction is all basic boxes/shapes
Just get the basic pose down then look up some boob titorials if you really need the help - but for the most part just draw some weighted water balloons

>>6729221
so try to break down the reference pose into shapes and try to make the boobs fit afterwords? do I have that right?

>>6729224
Sounds good - when your finished post your work on /beg/ and get some feedback the rinse and repeat

>>6729236
well I could always do studies pretty well and copy other peoples art close enough but I wanted to learn how to make something on my own instead of drawing like a glorified photo copier

I started taking art seriously because I needed money and I'm too scared/lazy/whatever to do something else. Anyway.
My goal this year was to have a portfolio for the kid illustrations market. I think that I can draw cute/simply enough to get a job in that field. I trained for that until a month ago.
But the thing is, I dont like to draw that way. I want to draw more mature things. But I need a job and I dont think I can do it another way.
I guess I'm a retard for asking, but should I just continue with kidlit while trying to draw for myself? Give up kidlit entirely? I dont know what to do.

>>6729245
Really confused by this
You originally asked
>should I draw using using a ref with small boobs or find a ref with the boob size I want
Now you're saying
>I want to draw without reference
So don't then?

>>6729387
It's not that I want to draw without reference I want to learn how to not copy references too closely. It's why I used a ref "with small boobs but I wanted to draw big ones" as an example

how does one actually do a study? i feel like if i did a copy bargue/krenz style i wouldn't gain anything from it.
am i supposed to recreate the image from memory?

>>6730297
I think you're supposed to look at the picture, take note of their line work or color or lighting or shading, whatever, and then use the image as a reference and try to draw it

I have been drawing for one whole days, so I think I know this

Whats a good software for animating illustrations?

when you're constructing a body is a rectangle the best shape for a pelvis?

How do I get Krita Nightly on Steam?

Hello /ic/ which resources (free if possible) would you recommend for advanced perspective lessons? My knowledge is limited to 1,2 ,3 point perspective. I want more advanced lessons whether it's a book, online article or youtube videos. Thanks in advance.

>>6730297
Bargue and other accurate copy exercises train your ability to measure and see angles and alignments first and foremost. That's the biggest takeaway you get from them. After a while you start getting a better sense for those things and it becomes almost second nature.
You use those abilities to do looser copies where the goal is to analyse and study the elements and methods of the image more than obtain an exact clone.
You don't need to reach some arbitrary level of xerox powers to gain permission to do regular studies, but being able to get the proportions close enough saves you a lot of headache.

>>6730625
>You use those abilities to do looser copies where the goal is to analyse and study the elements and methods of the image more than obtain an exact clone.
That's the part I was trying to learn. I'm at the point with my art ability that I can "xerox" my studies and clone them closely enough but I'm trying to move towards the part where I stylize and it make it into my own thing and that's where I've been running into trouble

>>6730648
Redrawing from memory does help a lot with reinforcing the weight something has in your visual library, so it's worth doing.
With stylisation you're looking for principles behind the person's solutions and problem-solving, so to isolate that and learn to apply it to different situations you could try to use that logic to draw a similar subject from reference.

Would people hate me, dislike me or cancel me if I ever make it because I got inspiration from AI towards certain things? I was fucking around with it when it was new because it was a new toy and I saw some interesrting things, researched artists like that, that were similar and added some of them to my influences. I would have never discovered artists I like without hat.

In a way, fucking with AI led to me changing my way of drawing so I see how people might just hate me for that.

>>6728500
>>6728416
>>6728447

I don't know what made you think those two replies were written by women but if you can ONLY spare 20 minutes a day to drawing, You're better off drawing random shit that you've got at hand (coffee cup, your chair, notebooks, books, etc. Simple man made stuff.) instead of looking for inspiration or gathering the resources to study. Like the others anon said, you've gotta be honest with yourself and come to terms with the fact that some of your hobbies have to give if you're serious about art, because this is a lifelong pursuit.

Why don't you try working out 3 - 5/wk and allocating those 4 - 2 days you've got left to draw? If you're this much of a time control freak, you should KNOW which activity/hobby can be replaced with drawing. Be real with yourself. Look at it from the perspective of exercise, I have never met somebody who goes through his entire weight lifting routine within 20 minutes, it's just impossible.

Being that said, if you think 20 minutes a day is enough to do all of this, watch Brent Eviston's "drawing guide" video course, he's ultra-beg friendly and teaches you the fundamentals to draw simple stuff.

what app is this?

what paper do i need if i want to draw something on paper and then trace it onto a curved plastic surface?

i want to draw on the paper, put the paper on the plastic, then draw through it using a paint marker and have the paint/ink go onto the plastic, or transfer the drawing in some other way.

basically how do i transfer a drawing from paper onto curved plastic. i am desperate.

I'm trying to design a character who would exist in a frozen arctic environment for a graphic novel. My first thought is that they need to be wearing a long parka style jacket however when drawing that it is pretty boring to look at and is hard to make dynamic if that makes sense. How can I get around this? From a functional standpoint the long parka jacket would make the most sense in the environment but from a visual standpoint it's just boring to look at; a lot of the times in static poses it just looks like a big rectangle. What should I do? Should I just redesign their clothing?

test

>>6731759
Just ignore realism and logic?

>>6731722
It's called transfer paper

>>6725511
Better way to draw hands?

How can I properly size my works? Like what kind of strategy can I apply for me to accurately pick sizes and not end up needing to resize the whole thing? Also how small is "too small"?

Picrel for reference on my canvas sizes, most of the time when I end up making a piece too small is when I completely forget to resize it after sketching, though in other cases I end up miscalculating and make the whole piece still too small or disproportionately large.
I just want to find a consistent way for me to properly pick sizes depending on the piece.

>>6731759
post the design

I want to commission some neoclassical/renaissance-style artwork. How do I go about doing this? It seems like most people taking online art commissions don't draw this classical style.

>>6727475
https://speakerdeck.com/
I've seen people use this.
>>6727655
6 months for me to be able to draw but had to take lots of breaks and it still hurt.1 year until no more pain. Get a brace. After about a month or two of being in the brace without drawing stretch your hand multiple times every day to regain strength.

Thinking of getting either a clipboard + tiny easel or one of those wooden ones that does both, which do you prefer?

>>6732165
>https://speakerdeck.com/
thanks bro

Been observing the advanced wars remake/reboot cutscenes. How do animation colorists do gradient colors and or blushes? It seems like a lot of extra work as it's not flats or shadows. Anybody have references or tutorials I should look into?

>>6732095
people who draw that style don't charge $50 per artwork so tough luck kid

>>6725577
Would this be good enough for a beginner.
The other tablets of this size are 2 - 4 times the price.

How do stylized highlights like tgese work? i'm never sure about the placement, shape or form.

>have ipad to draw on
>have pc
>backup ipad to pc
this is pathetically retarded sorry. if i want to delete my embarrassing old stuff to make space, its easily retrievable from the pc backup right?

Probably a very stupid question, but this seems like the right place to ask and I'm a complete prebeg so I'd say I get a pass. Do I really need to whip out larger size (A3-A4) paper and sit at a desk with perfect form every time I want to draw something? Most of the time I'd only be able to sketch in a smaller size (A5 or something like that) notebook while in bed, will this really completely kill my progress and any hope at improvement like every other book and course says? I'm not aiming to become a pro, if anything I'm okay with a more casual approach, but I still want to stop being a complete shitter too.

>>6732669
I'm willing to pay real money. I just need to know where the fuck to find traditional fine artists to commission.

Do you lose gains if you abstain from drawing for a prolonged period or is it something that goes into hibernation?

>>6733834
>Do you lose gains if you abstain from drawing for a prolonged period
Yes. But not completely.

>>6726079
CHADEXO

CSP Question - TL;DR, Exported text is different than as seen in CSP.

After updating to ver 2, when I export, a lot of the text is formatted differently in the resulting images when compared to how they look in Clip Studio Paint. As you can see below, in this case after exporting, while the font size didn't change, the margins or padding or something must have changed because the line breaks occur earlier and the text breaks out of the text box. This shit sucks because I have to manually readjust dozens of boxes for each project.

How can I fix this? What's going on?

What's a pencil?

Do people have styles based on who and what they are?
Every manhwa seems obviously drawn by a Korean. Same for Chinese, Japanese, and SEA. You can tell them apart.
Similarly, every example of the type of art I want to make it drawn by a woman. It's it going to be harder for me to learn to do that?
Will learning from loomis instead of someone who draws like my ideal, bring me further away from that look?

Any technically-minded people who can speak to their experience learning art? I've been told that my art looks "soulless" by people not intending to be mean. Do technically-minded people just have a strange affinity problem with art? I feel like everything I draw is "programmer art".

How or where can I find something to guide my drawing process and add some sort of structure to it? The complete and utter aimlessness unique to drawing is always what has kept me away from it. I never know what I'm trying to create or how I could possibly make it, which saps all possible enjoyment from the activity.

I can look at or imagine a subject, but I can't figure out any way to decompose a subject into lines, so it may as well not even exist. Since I can't make any mental connection between the subject and my work, I never have any idea whether I'm getting closer to or further from my goal with any given action, which is incredibly frustrating and makes it pretty much impossible to learn anything.

>>6735259
>Do people have styles based on who and what they are?
Those are things that inform style. They don't define style. What's more important to style is artistic influence: the things that you like about art.
>Will learning from loomis instead of someone who draws like my ideal, bring me further away from that look?
No. The purpose of studying Loomis is to learn the fundamentals of drawing and illustration. You expand from that foundation to develop your style.

what happen to fireden will it ever come back why did warosu replace it all the valuable stuff from 2021-22 is gone now

>>6725511
How to get habit of drawing back?

>>6735744
Get inpired and want to work on some project.

>>6725511
I have a paradoxical fixation on various artists on twitter. I know it's dumb. I know it's wrong. I have no one in the real world and desperately wish I was their friend.
Fuck I realize this isn't even a question I just hate myself and wanted to vent.
I keep it to myself other than liking their post though.

>>6735824
Parasocial I meant.
And to add I have a horrible habit of becoming obsessed with people

ok motherfuckers. how do i perfect my anatomy as quick as possible. i will be studying every day. don't say "just draw" i already do that. i want an effective based study that will have me skyrocket in skill

>>6737279
Do anatomy studies

Is there any way to receive payment for commissions without revealing any real information? I know paypal gives your information to customers.

>>6737302
thanks retard

Any resources on the brow bone specifically?

how do you go from grayscale to color without the colors looking muddy and dull?
I tried using an overlay layer on top of the grayscale layer but it doesn't look quite right yet
Do I need to paint over EVERY shadow with a different color again?

>>6732671
i don't use screens, but the resolution and size is decent so go ahead and try it and return it if you don't like it

How the fuck i escape this tutorial hell?! I follow a tutorial, later try something and realize it's like i forgot how to draw omg

>>6738038
>How the fuck i escape this tutorial hell?!
You draw the subject in the tutorial enough to be able to draw it without a tutorial. Then you find references of similar - but a bit different - subjects and draw those using the principles of the tutorial. Then build upon that, and so on and so forth.
tl;dr: just draw

whats this

Stupid question: should I always follow artists back
and give occasional likes on their stuff, even if I don't
really care. Does it even help much with gaining more followers.
And if not, should I be doing this anyway in order to not appear like
an asshole who receives but gives nothing back?

>>6738085
teres major

Can I do this in CPS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wevLWWqB7eE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQdx6H9BIGs

>>6738346
that would be one low ass scapula if that were the case
>>6738085
my guess is that its a subsurface muscle that activates when the arm is pushed extremely forward

is it a dumb idea to do the sketch in CSP, sai, or whatever and finish the lineart using Illustrator? those vectors seem pretty useful, the way you can manipulate the lines. has anyone tried that?
I'm using a screenless tablet and the line art process is pure ain, I've tried stabilizer, Lazy Nezumi, everything but nothing helps

Where the fuck can I get autodesk maya from? TPB is a pain in the ass for software.

Whats the best way to construct an anime head?
Sphere method or cube method? What do the Jap pros use?

>>6728215
Anon, you're having a stroke.

What figures are these?

>>6738085
end of the scapula pushing up the top of the lat

>>6739023
CSP has vector layers too, you don't have to use Illustrator.

>>6739284
1000Toys Synthetic Human

Any tips for getting this "marker" coloring look in CSP?
This artist colors his stuff digitally afaik

>>6739341
Thank you so much!

Any good guides for drawing asses?
Mine always turn out looking like giant tumors

>>6739672
it's simple, really: (‿|‿)

>>6739672
Do you even use references?

How do you increase your visual library?

Like I get that your supposed to look at references but how do you retain the pose?
I find that when ever I try to draw I usually end up so stumped on how to pose the character, that I give up on trying to draw. Or I draw the same 3-4 poses I know by memory and my sketchbook looks stagnant with characters always facing 3/4 turn.
I've done life drawing and gesture drawing but I can't seem to retain the information. Ive tried several different approaches. There's something just not clicking.

Img is my attempt at drawing from memory. I feel like I'm overthinking things and at the same time I feel really stupid.
Sorry if it's fucking huge, I'm posting from mobile.

What makes a sketch a sketch? When do you know its done?

Why do artists add in shadow with the lasso tool? That seems annoying to use. Just use a brush.

My tablet doesn't have touch. Can an external trackpad be used for easy zoom/pan/rotation?
Assuming it works with advanced Win10 gestures like pinching or whatever.
Anyone try anything like that?

>>6725511
How do y'all backup/archive your art folders?
I currently just have a on site back up but wondering if it's worth it to expand to a cloud service.

>>6740022
touch is a meme, you can use the modifier keys + the pen to rotate/pan/zoom, more quicker and natural

>>6740423
I already have tablet keys+pen set up but it feels kind of cumbersome and hard to adapt to different software.
Having a touchpad off to the side for quick gestures feels like it'd be more natural, like using a phone.

>>6739341
How do they compare to the Figma one?

>>6740427
I don't know, my previous tablet had touch and after the novelty wore off I kept touch off
Especially on PC it was never as seamless and holding a button and using the pen right away
I do have the express keys though, so I can remap it so it's the same button across all software

hi what is this app called? or any alternative of it?

>>6741011
Timechan I think?

>>6741085
Timerchan on github my bad

>>6741088
i think i found it https://neilblr.com/post/58757345346
but thanks for the suggestion anon
!

>>6739033
ask literally any college student, community or otherwise, if you can use their email to sign up for a student version of the software and coast on that for a while. But if you're just learning to use 3D software now I would just start with blender. I only use maya because I've been using it since 2014 and I can do shit super quickly and efficiently in it. But their are countless better 3D artists who do better work using blender and that shits free and has current plugin support. Plugin's for maya are typically 10+ year old at this point and there are no new ones being made by anyone. All the good plugin programmers have switched to blender. While Maya has been and still is the industry standard, that becomes less of a concern these days and going forward. Most companies were already allowing you to use either Maya or 3DsMax depending on what you used best and these days they just add blender to that list. So long as you can get the work done.

>>6725511
what are some websites/discord servers where I can post my stuff and try to get noticed by potential clients?
reddit banned me for trying to post stuff without having karma or whatever the fuck

>>6728201
There was a program beign develop'd that you could use to modify the image you wanna upload, it adds some kind of filter and metadata that AI can't read properly and also it would produce dat-poisoning (it means it misstags the image so when the AI is searching for "futuristic" it may end up copying "cubism" instead).
Can't remember the name right now but it was too heavy and slow at the stage it was.

>>6741397
You mean glaze?

>>6728201
The technology is out there now, there's no way to stop people from using it. Its not possible to do a hard wipe of the internet. The best thing we can do is frown on the usage of AI. And prevent the data harvesting of future works.
Lot of people recognize AI art as cheap and inauthentic. Or they're just a mindless consumer that just guzzles any and all eye candy. Corporations dont care because they just want to force everyone back into serfdom.

Is her leg too small in pic related? It seems disproportionately small to me compared to her upper body.

What pencil type do you guys use when you sketch outlines on paper? (H,HB,B)

how do I get someone to sponsor my next drawing device which will cost around $2k
I mean this unironically

>>6744795
go to your local Starbucks, ask for the manager and ask them to sponsor you for $15/hr

does anyone else's right rotator cuff make a crackling noise

>>6745357
no but my wrist sounds like a cement mixer

>>6744795
Eh, I don't know if this is going to be successful but I suggest you two options.

1. You nag to your parents, so, I think this would be most successful that if you need this for your college studies (art or graphic design degree yadayada).

2. You just work with the ropes that you have and sell commissions or work for companies and work your way up from there. I think this path is better than the first one.
My assumption is that you don't draw a lot basically and I think that $2k drawing devicey will be catching lots of dusties!!! :^DDDDD

But may I ask what device are you interested in that costs $2k?

>>6745357
I don't think mine does.
I'm a little bit uncertain though.

>>6744609
I think so, yes.

>>6740022
Nobody uses touch.
It's wonky from my experience.

>>6739171
>What do the Jap pros use?
That varies from person-to-person

>>6737310
No, that's not true anyone can setup a PayPal business account, which at least for incoming payments does not reveal any personal information.

You do have to set it up carefully and it's slightly tedious but I'm sure you'll be able to figure this out.

>>6735050
Hi,

A pencil should resemble pic related.

Cheers!

Is there a website with a large catalog of portrait photos that I can utilize to build my caricature skills?

>>6735291
This is starkly similar to my situation. I do not have a solution.
Maybe use more references? But then it quickly turns into copying or half-copying and it kills the satisfaction knowing that I'm not creating a derivative of an already existing work, rather a (half-)copy of an already existing work.

>>6735259
>Do people have styles based on who and what they are?
Well, we're all humans I think. The ones who draw/paint pictures at least.
Your question kind of falls apart because it inherently doesn't make much sense (to me at least).

>Will learning from loomis instead of someone who draws like my ideal, bring me further away from that look?
I don't know. I can only speculate one way or another, but not with any redeeming accuracy, it could go both ways I guess.

>Any technically-minded people who can speak to their experience learning art?
What are "technically-minded people"?
> I've been told that my art looks "soulless" by people not intending to be mean.
I'm sorry to hear that.
>Do technically-minded people just have a strange affinity problem with art?
I need a definition for "technically-minded people", well, frankly I think you're just talking nonsense with those "technically-minded people" of yours. No, that doesn't make any sense to me.
Unless you're talking crazy technoheads who go crazy on the beat! <:^O
> I feel like everything I draw is "programmer art".
I don't understand, please provide visual examples of your "programmer art".

Cheers! >;^O

>>6737442
NO! YOU'RE OVERCOMPLICATING IT !!!!! >:-oooo

>>6737279
I suggest you actually sit down and face your foe: "ANATOMY STUDIES FOR DAYZZZ"!!! >:^OOOOOOO

>>6735744
Draw everyday by sheer discipline, you will get it back.
It's a matter of self-discipline.

>>6732697
I don't know you just place them lol.

anons, when somebody buys a commission from you on Ko-Fi, what information of mine do they have?

is it the name registed w/ my paypal account, or is it just my Ko-Fi username?

>>6745444
http://oh-hi.info/
https://www.earthsworld.com/
https://flickr.com/photos/tags/portrait
https://unsplash.com/s/photos/portrait
https://www.pexels.com/search/portrait/
https://images.google.com/hosted/life
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/face-expression-practice
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en/view/BodyParts?BodyPart=Head&Time=300

>>6732228
I guess I prefer a clipboard over a tiny easel. But such a thing depends on what tiny easel is being used for the comparison with the clipboard.

>>6745471
GANGSTER!

>>6725511
This has been bugging me since I'm clearly never gonna get it right on my own while playing with brushes. How do you actually make gold look...gold?

where the fuck do you find nude people photographed from above
low angle is fairly common in porn so that's easy but high angle foreshortening is impossible to find

>>6745753
you can't find a picture or a video of girls giving stupid blowjobs or whatever?????

>>6745471
>http://oh-hi.info/
>https://www.earthsworld.com/
this is exactly what I was looking for, thanks anon

>>6745781
yea no shit i can but that is literally the same one pose and it's from straight above which is not really a useful angle

Any vids/streams of middling artists drawing/sketching stuff? I'm looking for videos where artist still uses actual construction of sorts instead of drawing entire thing in one go.

>>6725511
It's possible to use pirated drawing software on drawing tablets right? How would I go about getting it on there?

>>6748119
Pikat does that,
https://www.twitch.tv/pikat
Or at least, based on her warmups/practice videos. Never watched until the end

this is truly a stupid question but does anyone know if the model Sara from NMA have socials? She's literally perfect and I want to see more of her

Is there any animation software with genuine pixel brushes. Not pixel art, but like the mspaint crusty ass work brush. Every software I try has the cringe vector software, I want rasterization.

(example like picture)

how can i download a profile from twitter? hitomi doesnt work and i dont wanna spend 2 hours scrolling through cat pics and gacha posts to dl an artists gallery

>>6748605
clip studio

>>6725511
Can a screen tablet speeds up your work?
I draw black white comics.

>>6728469
>Keep programming and writing science journals it's clearly where your skillset lies
You can and should be good at everything. Don't have a loser mindset.

>>6725511
Not long ago there was a thread here about some guy's progress. It included screenshots of him breaking down other artist's comporitions in discord to learn from them.
Didn't save the screenshots back then and now I'm apparently too stupid to find the thread.
Anyone still has those?

>>6732939
>>6732095
I can take it. Where can I contact you wmw?

>>6748172
Nice, thanks!
I see that Twitch actually has some art stuff, might be worth looking around.

Is it normal for initial sketch look bad/dis-proportioned and then slowly fixing it? My gestures are awful, but I can manage to make the sketch/drawing decent if I sit down over it and fix the anatomy errors and stuff.
Seems to work in digital, but it totally fucks me over in trad because with a pen I just end up with shit while with pencil and eraser I will turn the sketch into a smear given enough time.

Can you use a digital tablet for online art courses that require you to use traditional tools?

How do people know how to place the nose and eyes in perspective for instance in a 3/4 view? Do they just guess?

That lines control exercises (fill the page with squares, straight lines, circles, etc) really helps with hand=eye coordination??? i think the biggest problem that i have in drawing is that my drawings look crooked because i can't do certain lines/curves properly, example: i can draw 3/4 angle faces really well, but can't draw front angle

>>6750095
You can do it by intuition if you have a bit of mileage under your belt.
But if you're aware of the planes of the face you can always draw a correct-looking face from any angle.

>>6748507
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD IM SO HORNY WHY DO WOMAN HAVE TO EXIST SEX 9000 IMPREGNANTE IMPREGNANTE FUAAAAAAAAAAAARK I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE I NEED SEX IVE NEVER SHAVED MY PUBIC HAIR

I'm trying to make brush in csp, how could I remove the jagged edge while keeping the texture?

>>6750650
edit the brush tip so that little bit on the edge isn't so sharp

Sometimes when drawing for long periods a couple fingers will start to feel very slightly numb, any tips on avoiding this? I think it has to do with resting my elbow on the desk.

>>6750712
Nerves or bloodflow is obstructed most likely. If you aren't doing it already, stretching your arms is good. Not having the same spot be holding the rest of your arm as well. I rest my hand on a desk when I work, but I keep moving it around a lot so this doesn't happen to me.

Are there any artists that make both manga-type art and more realistic stuff as well?
Ar there any artists similar to James Jean? His Fable cover art was a huge inspiration for me years ago.

>>6750662
Ok but when there's no texture on it it's not jagged, can you not have square textured brush with clean edge? It works in photoshop

I realize that I'm the sort of artist that draws mainly from imagination. Any recommendations on how do studies with that mindset in mind?

>>6750598
Don't shave your pubic hair if you are a man. You are probably not tho.

I swear my engagement on Twitter has tanked since Elon took over. Does anyone else feel this way too?

>>6750712
>>6750849
obstructed bad posture in the neck
stretch arm and spine

is it possible to get the effect on the left in procreate? not talking about multiply, but real opacity control. procreate does the same thing a lot of desktop applications do in that it does have "opacity" settings but they are just flow/density/whatever you want to call the one on the right.

is the CSP torrent on nyaa safe?

>>6751994
they call it glaze, in the rendering section if i remember right

>>6751997
It's on nyaa so chances are yes. If it's orange or green then definitely. You can always just scan it with antivirus after downloading, too. Obviously do your due diligence with checking comments and making sure there's more than one seed, etc

Is my dad art any good?

>>6750849
>>6751800
What stretches do you recommend?

>>6752268
Anything that moves the shoulders, stretches hands and twists your spine. Disc golf stretching, golf stretching or any sort of computer worker stretches would be good.

>>6745423
One of those new Surface 2 in 1s
Because i'm tired of both bigass standalone tablets that need to be hooked up to even function (regardless of screen/screenless), and ipads that are basically just toys, separate from the main device
I want a literal do-it-all, all-in-all device

>>6752215
thanks, i found some default brushes that have that effect so i was about to go searching through the dumpster that is their brush engine again to figure out which setting it was

What is the slutty brassiere this animu is wearing called? I can't find any refs on google

It really is just the little things that pull a piece down the more I start learning to notice them. Not enough value range, shit hands (neglected from focusing too much on the rest of the body), too vague a light source during the thumbnail/color rough phase so stuck just guessing now, rushed lineart, balancing background elements to not take away from the subject. The burden of knowledge.
I guess that's a sign of improvement at least, fussing less about anatomy now, but I wish it didn't hurt to see so much wrong still either. Motivation to push through comes in sporadic waves and i'm caught second guessing. Advice on getting past this? Do I just need to study more? I feel like i'm gettinh close to /pro/ but I keep shooting myself in the foot with small things. Is being this hard on myself with that goal in mind not good or is it important to be this critical?

Is a 4K monitor worth +200USD, or is 1440p just fine?

Does anyone know how I could recreate the shading/colouring that speedoru does?

On an initial look it just looks like simple cell shading and flats but there is actually really subtle gradients or airbrushing going on
It makes everything have a mild blur to it but still looks really sharp

>>6725511
I'm new to Procreate, and I'm trying to shade an area which I already colored, using a new layer. The layer is on multiply because I have an outline drawing and I don't want to cover it, the problem is the color on the shading layer turns out very dark and unlike the color I'm using. How do I solve this?

>>6754068
that's exactly what a multiply layer does. It multiplies the effect and makes everything very dark.

Play around with your color choices

>>6753512
Are you the anon that made this?
>> 6752424

Sadly, as always, it's a matter of experience. Every time you fail, you'll remember the mistake and likely won't repeat it. There are a lot of mistakes one can make, though. The only process I could recommend is write up whatever you failed on last time, write bullet points what you would do to not repeat it, then check said notes while working.

>>6754089
I am retarded. /begint/ thread anime girl with fishies.

>>6754089
>Are you the anon that made this? >>6752424
No, I don't typically post my work here though I lurk /asg/ to give out helpful advice and redlines. I've been drawing a long time so I get the concept and know the feeling, i'm looking to make the process hurt a bit less as i'm trying to get my shit together. The longer I do this the more things hurt in a way where "you should know this by now, why are you still making mistakes in your own airk" deals a blow to the self-esteem and it gets tougher to get back up. Notes might help, I usually just internalize or commit to memory but writing it down might solidify it. Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it.

>>6754579
*mistakes in your own work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la4gwmBDopU
Why'd he render it in pencil if he went back to finish it in digital? If he was gonna finish it in digital why didn't he just print the final render?

>>6728201
Probably near impossible. I'm not sure if the general populace even knows that tech exists. And the potential behind it is too tempting and too great.

Deepfakes and Photoshop (sorta) are way more harmful to society and they're both still around.

>>6725511
Are doujin circles a real thing? And if so, how do you get yourself into one?

have you guys had any inspiration thread lately? i always found those to be cool

>>6756859
you should make one, i like the ones where people have to post work alongside their inspiration

>>6725511
Am I missing something or is the selection tool in Clip Studio Paint really bad? Every time I select a section of the layer to move it's really laggy and weird, plus rotating and resizing it is cumbersome and annoying. I feel like I'm just retarded and doing something wrong but I'm not sure.

how do I get some motivation and joy back?

I’ve tried joined art tournaments, I tried taking an after hours college course, I tried going to meetups. But im just always surrounded by horrible people that demotivate me even further because I don’t want to be around people like that.
I never get recognition and everything I draw is dogshit

Im just tired of drawing after years of being shit. It feels like im just wasting my time when I could have beeen creating work related shit and just selling that. Instead im wasting time on permabegdom surrounded by autistic assholes.

How many twitter followers is enough that you don’t have to post art every day and not ruin your engagement? I thought I would be okay slowing down after 1K but I had one of my worst weeks in a while when I tried to reduce it to a picture every other day.

Art friends, can one of you tell me which is more correct out of these two?
You'll have to use your imagination a bit here.

>Suppose the green rectangles are painted walls
>There's a flashlight being shone on each of them
>Would the green be lighter where the the flashlight is shining on it or would it be lighter in the cone itself passing by the wall?

See I thought it was the top one where the light is making contact with the wall, but from the handful of places I've checked it says it should be shade inside of the cone that's lighter.

>>6757983
It's the bottom one. They worked out how light works, just make the layer's blend mode into multiply. Eye drop the yellow and bucket it into a circle in a multiply layer, it'll appear like the bottom one to replicate.

>>6757988
>It's the bottom one

What the...how the fuck does that work it doesn't make sense to me. I'm such a brainlet.
I can't do what you suggest though because it's in ye olde pen and pencil format. Not digital. Thanks for clearing it up regardless.

>>6757983

>>6758007
Ah I get it now. Thanks a lot.

>>6758007
roughly how the values compare

Would you consider Modern Day James to be a measure for "advanced perspective?"
I know that Radio Runner sucks up to James a lot for some reason but I almost laughed when I saw the videos he recommends.

>>6758149

Here are the videos for the "advanced perspective"

>>6725511
i want to make a weekly comic strip. Probably in the 4koma format.

What is the best place to post it?

>>6758177
Pixiv, you can create a series and then keep adding chapters to it.

If I like the way another artist draws faces is it okay to copy it for my own art? or should I avoid making something that looks similar to someone elses art

>>6758297
I've seen artists copy asanagi's face style but then branch off of that, Sirachi for example turned his Asanagi face into his own spin-off. Search Sirachi on gelbooru and look at his early works and his latest works to see what I mean.

>>6758297
Every time I've been in that situation I've taken "inspiration" from it instead. Which is basically me trying to replicate it from memory again and again.
It never turns out identical to the original and each new drawing is slightly different from the last. In the end I end up having taken elements of each previous drawing and what I'm left with only resembles what I was trying to copy in the first place. If I show it to anyone else, even if they know the artist, they don't see the similarities. There's been times I've came clean and told them what I did and, at best, they'll mention a passing resemblance.
It's like evolving someone else's hard work to come up with your own thing. But I guess all art is taking what someone else hard work and making it your own.

Maybe it depends on the particular art scene you're in for how they react to what I did in the past. I think either consciously or subconsciously though everyone does it.
Obviously it's a bit different if you create a Simpsons style cartoon and call it the Simmons or whatever.

>>6755855
Bump on this question

>>6758430
A circle is what japanese people call university clubs. Many people form circles for otaku activities and if a group is calling itself a circle specifically it's because most likely they knew each other in real life even if their activities extend past university age.
You can collaborate with anyone from anywhere but there's little point to calling yourselves a circle outside of that scenario.

Where do you go after Fun with a Pencil?

>>6758510
Go to the mega torrent thread, pick any of the fundamental lessons and stick with it to the end. I like Brent's course in particular.

How do I know which questions are for /sqtddtot/ and which questions are for /beg/

>>6758570
Usually it's for beg of you have a drawing for people to critique what your doing wrong.

Anyone knows about any (good) shounen 4koma?

>>6758510
Fun with a Pencil is to introduce you to the idea of construction. I'd advise you to train your observation skills next with Keys to Drawing. Then Perspective Made Easy for a basic introduction to perspective.

>>6725511
What's so special about Photoshop cs? Can't I just download a pirated copy of an older version? If I'm on a windows 8 first gen surface pro, will an older Photoshop run smooth?

do most construction guides apply to all types of art? would loomis work if I wanted to draw anime girls or should I find someone else?

>>6758792
Thank you for the recommendations!

>>6725511
Is there any drawing software that runs from a server?
I don't need anything fancy, just something I can use on my shitty laptop

What are "fundies"?

>>6760456
The skill you need to become an artist. The skill that gatekeeps everyone from being artists. It's like trying to find a light switch in a pitch black room. Those who keep at it will eventually find the switch. But many give up. Why spend all that time in a pitch black room, when you could be playing video games? That is fundies.

>>6760468
Thanks. Is the name in reference to anything?

How clean should sketches be?
Does it matter?
Should I even bother sketching something if I can just jump right into a final piece from the get go?
I feel as if I am reaching a point where my drawings are nearing a consistent near pro level but I'm still uncertain.

>>6760615
sketches can be as messy as you want as long as you understand what it's supposed to look like

>>6725511
How to embrace imperfections as an artist and let things go?
I have very perfectionist tendencies and its absolutely ruining my webcomic, and making all of my poses stiff. How do I aim to fix this? What if it turns out really bad and nobody likes it?

>>6761309
For me it helps to consciously separate my mind into sketch mode and finishing mode. I make an effort to leave my sketches messy, and all the cleanup is afterward. You can practice this by doing lots of low effort, quick sketches without finishing them or even cleaning them up. Don’t think of things as “imperfections” or “mistakes” but instead as your humanity expressing itself on the page. Ultimately you may come to find that it gives your work character.

Anyone know of an app that works like a reference board for images AND videos? Like pureref but with some type of video support aswell for animations (gifs, webm or whatever idc)

>>6761575
>looking at MOVING references
the fuck are you doing

are video guides on youtube any good for learning? they seem decent but I don't like having to pause the video and rewind all the time. I'd prefer it if it was just a written guide with images like loomis

When using a drawing tablet with a screen, should you keep the pointer on despite using a stylus directly on the screen? The pointer also shows while slightly hovering over the screen. There are no pointers when drawing with a pencil on paper of course. Is it an advantage or not?

omg why drawing on tablet feels so much worse than drawing on paper...

>>6761465
>instead as your humanity expressing itself on the page.
Sorry I just can’t understand how you don’t see it as mistakes.

>>6762024
Because fake and gay, just put a piece of paper on the tablet.

Is there a good general thread on any other board that has software/design resources and guides for making a graphic novel?

>>6739811
>Like I get that your supposed to look at references but how do you retain the pose?
Draw from reference, draw afterwards from imagination, compare, draw again
Basically draw more and pay more attention to how muscles and shapes interact and you'll get better at remembering poses

what very accessible 3d program can allow me to place simple shapes like cubes (of different sizes or not) where I want them easily, and which can display the perspective grid?

i just got my first compliment online how do i respond

>>6762402
"hey thanks"

>>6762410
thanks

>>6762412
don't mention it

there was an artist i found a while ago who made some really amazing renders of butts he i remember he drew soraka ryuko and satsuki from kill la kill but i forgot his handle anyone know

I've made a bunch of thumbnails for a drawing I'm planning to do but I have absolutely zero ideas for it and nothing I've drawn has clicked. How the hell do I think up of a composition?

>>6762479
Rule of thirds.

Should I be concerned about erasing?
Do "real artists" erase mistakes?

>>6763412
Watch pro artists draw on YouTube. They use erasers more than me. Try Eliza Ivanova

>>6763446
*And you should draw in pen often, so you can't even erase if you wanted to. It will build confidence in your lines.

how do you guys break it to your family you're gonna go to art school?

>>6763412
yes its okay to erase mistakes but it's a bad habit to be sloppy

Is it just me or does her face look kind of flat?

>>6763585
Yea the perspective of the face is off compared the perspective of the head.
Look at the ears. They appear to face more towards the "camera" than the face does.

>>6762069
Worry more about being able to fix mistakes instead of worrying about not making them. You’re going to make mistakes. Even printers make mistakes. You just have to fix them. Someone who doesn’t make mistakes doesn’t know how to fix them.

Does reading about art topics/theory actually help you make art?

are images of figures any good for using as reference? I'm talking like anime figures

whatever happened to sr grafo? do you guys still hate him? what about the youtube guy who always looked like he had just snorted cocaine?

>>6765225
just want to say i like them for composition/pose studies and their clothing
i haven't heard of people using them for practicing stuff like gesture but i have seen some figure which do look quite nice

Which art youtubers give the best tutorials in your opinions?

>>6765225
Figures usually only look good from one angle.

https://m.weibo.cn/z/panorama?oid=1042143:3aa2bbf537f9f4a8feec38a6d76dad14

Is there an offline version of this site? Or at least a way to save the grid without screenshotting?

How do I define the proportions of a character based on its height? For example, how many heads is a guy who is 5'5 tall.

>>6767776
Someone's actual height is separate from how many heads tall they are. Two people who are the same height won't necessarily be the same amount of heads tall. A short person won't always be less heads tall than a taller person. Head size doesn't always correlate with height. Hopefully picrel can demonstrate this more clearly (South Koreans pay a lot of attention to head:body proportions kek).
That said, you can really just use whatever proportions you want. Imo anything between 6-8.5 heads will look pretty normal, so consider what would best suit your needs/character. On average, an adult will be around 7-7.5 heads tall. 6-6.5 is also pretty normal, though it makes a person look stumpy. Ideal proportions call for 8 heads.

>>6767890
Thanks, anon! That image explains they whole deal pretty well and what you wrote was very helpful too.

People often say to not zoom in too closely when drawing, so what is the maximum magnification value I should use?

>>6767890
8.5 is female heroic. how tall is she irl?

>>6725511
What do you do when you just can't draw? I really wanna but nothing's coming out right.

>>6768213
go to /i/ and pick a random thread. drawing badly is part of the fun sometimes.

>>6767906
Glad to help! Good luck anon
>>6768208
Around 160cm apparently. She's got a very small head. FWIW those images aren't really measured super accurately (just pulled them off google and thought they got the point across), so she might be a bit less than 8.5 in reality.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, that ogre looking guy with the massive head measuring at 6 heads tall is actually a bit over 7ft IRL.

>>6762366
maybe sketchup
not sure about the grid thing though but you can easily place cubes and shit

>>6725511
if you buy CSP with an older pirated copy on your harddrive is something bad gonna happen
is it gonna know and lock you out or some dumb shit
just wanna doublecheck before i drop 200 bucks on it lmao

>>6725511
Is it correct for me to make the same drawing "twice", the first time being the sketch and the second time being the lining? After I draw it the first time, I feel like I'm wasting time doing it a second time through lining just so I can get to the rendering.

>>6769005
Highly unlikely. Even Adobe don't do that kind of shit.
Usually they will just break the registry of your old pirated stuff, thus disabling the previous version.

>>6769180
Depends. You can't avoid drawing it 'twice' if you're doing anime or cartoon style.
But you can skip lining entirely if you're doing digital painting

>>6763535
Watch Art School Confidential first and then post the same question again. Even though it's a comedy, 70% of it is true (aside from the murder stuff that is).

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