/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

First for just draw.

>>6714462
First for use a goddamn reference(for anything)

First for just feel the form.

finally finished this one.
painting it felt like putting together a Gunpla.

type yandex.com (russian google)

Type in Vilppu figure drawing course for beginners

click the vk.com link scroll down watch the first video on gesture

you're welcome

latest work. need critique/advice.

>>6714501
I am going to coom using your work

>>6714501
This is too good it has to be AI art or edited AI art.

>>6714501
You are almost certainly better than 99.9% of posters ITT, I doubt you will get salient advice here.

>>6714501
Beautiful!

i want to draw but my cat won't let me.
what do?

I've been drawing for 24 hours straight what the hell is happening to me? Am i starting to enjoy drawing?

beksinski inspired drawing

>>6714588
damn i feel this

>>6714588
I feel its less that and more third party interference/localization demanding a certain level of bio-leninism and niggishness

>>6714581
Draw ON the cat.

I posted in the last thread right before the new one was made, could i get some critique? I'm trying to apply the Loomis method to sketching people's heads, i think it's wonky but I've made great strides since I began a few days ago.

>>6714456
https://youtu.be/lG2qr8nfb5o

>>6714663
I really dislike your faces, but I don't know why.

>>6714658
This is gonna sound weird, but draw with 'blind eyes'.
Your brain is saying shit and getting your drawing messed up, it's a bit like a how a kid draws ovals for eyes.
If it helps pretend you're an alien and you've never seen a human, ovals and eyes before.
Draw what you see, an eye wouldn't be an oval, you've never seen an eye before, youve never seen an oval before, it's a weird shape you're trying to draw.

Use Loomis and proper promotions but also draw what you see.

The OP describes this better and this technique is from a book called drawing on the left side on brain or something.

>>6714669

>>6714663
looks neat but feels off.
Like some proportions seem of remember how the face is curved and maybe trace the model to see what you go wrong with it, make notes and apply that fix, and apply that knowledge to the next time you do it

>>6714671
Thank you for the advice! I'm a little confused on how to draw blind but I'll check our left side of the brain and try to figure it out

>>6714683
My bad the book is called called "keys to drawing"

Check the sticky.
Try drawing this upside down, to start off.
Or just try to do a bit. You'll kinda understand when drawing upside is so foreign to you that you just copy lines and draws what's actually there. Since your brain doesnt really have a refference otherwise.

>>6714501
Personally could play with values a bit more but it's a nitpick. You're good. Now gtfo you don't belong here with ngmis.

anyone else absolutely hate the digital process of Sketch -> lineart -> color ? it feels so artificial and unnatural to me.
i much prefer a rudimentary sketch -> painting, like alot of painters do irl

>>6714596
so what you're saying is death to america, correct?

>>6714714
You're not alone. I swear whenever I try doing clean lineart it takes longer than the painting while being more painful.

>>6714714
there is literally nothing stopping you from doing it the 2nd way

>>6714497
based yugioh bro

Finally started using colors

anyone have that hitler manga panel pic of him saying "I would like to make it"? Been feeling like that lately...

I don't understand how to sketch without "chickenscratching" and whenever I look at people sketch that's all I see. Is chickenscratching just doing short lines instead of long ones? I don't get it.

>>6714754
same

>>6714765
chickenscratching is like pecking at the paper in a billion lines with no discernable direction and a vague suggestion of form, doing short strokes to build lines is perfectly acceptable as long as they follow each other, especially in a sketch. Chickenscratch looks "hairy" for lack of a better word. Still, you should try to get better at using confident and longer strokes

>>6714765
Continuous long lines are ass if you draw them by scratching tiny segments the whole length. Takes longer, looks worse and is bad for your wrist. There is no flow.

how good are your vertical/diagonal lines? mine are awkward and wobbly. how hard should i grind to make perfect lines in all directions?

how we looking lads? still need to clean up the boob area

>>6714804
Extreme amateur hour. I will not post my work.

>>6714805
huh? are you saying its extremely amateur?

>>6714806
yus

>>6714807
can you expand on why?

>>6714810
She's squat, anatomy is all over the place and it looks like you drew her clothing on, rather than drawing her like she's wearing clothes. You're polishing a turd here. abandon this project and start over.

>>6714812
what does squat mean? and what anatomy is all over the place? please go ahead and red line

you are 100% right about the clothes though, they looks like trash and i dont know how to fix them

>>6714456
What's the correct way of tackling this? Do you draw a cube and then subtract from it? Do you draw separate cubes for the different parts of the head? My attempt at it looks like shit and I'm 110% sure I did it wrong.

>>6714814
>Do you draw a cube and then subtract from it?

yeah, imagine youre a sculptor and youre carving from big to small

>>6714499
Oh my god anon I could kiss you and have sex with you, thank you so much.

>>6714813
>what does squat mean?
Google it.
>and what anatomy is all over the place?
All of it.
>please go ahead and red line
No.

>>6714822
aight so youre a crab, got it, i did fix the arms more though

>>6714499
god hes so slow i cant take it fucking turtle man hurry up

>>6714501
Don't post it yet, I think you have to fix a few things and add a couple things....My attempt.

>>6714804
I'll walk it down from top to bottom to try and give critique
>head
the hair looks strange and flat, the strands on the left side of the image wouldn't run down her cheek and then cleanly transition to the shoulder area, it'd curve or have hair fall forward of her shoulder, her eyebrows are different sizes, she has a lazy eye(may be intentional), her nose curves off at the wrong angle(should curve into the brow a bit more, right now it's too far angled left), her lips are oddly shaped, her ear looks very small, and her neck isn't angled properly on the torso, it looks like it's centered a bit to the right of the torso's centerline
>torso
the angle of the shoulders doesn't match up with the curvature of the torso, her left arm is very skinny below the elbow(could be intentional I've seen women like this IRL), the left side of her torso should be curved instead of a straight vertical line, and like the other anon said, her clothes look drawn on top of her. The bottom of her bikini for example is sitting at an odd angle on the body and doesn't cover anything properly unless the intent is that it's been moved to one side to show her snatch. It doesn't "face" the same way that her pelvis and torso are facing, which is why it looks strange. The right side of her torso looks too thick compared to the skinny left side, which makes her appear sort of lopsided.

You've got a decent grasp on color and shading, but your lines need work, and you should try to define them more.

>>6714805
>Extreme amateur hour.
yeah this is /beg/ retard

>>6714835
ok this is all gold thank you anon <3 will work through it

>>6714837
Don't give up! Even if it takes a while, finish your work until you've reached a level you consider decent, then look at it and reflect on what you could've done better. Outside opinions help, I generally bombard my friends and my wife asking for opinions on pieces I've done, because sometimes you get so caught up in small details, nothing looks right(or wrong) when you've been staring at your canvas for hours

>>6714827
Since you posted your reference I can point out a few more things I was talking about. On the left side of her torso, see how her hip curves into the bikini, which then curves into her ribcage, with a final curve into her bra?
On larger women like that, the clothes are generally constricting, and fat provides little resistance. Generally anywhere the clothes meet skin, the skin will curve into it as it's being restricted. Same thing for the strings of the bra on her shoulders. That's what I meant when I said that her clothes look drawn on top, instead of her wearing them.
I'm not sure what you're working in, but generally I do a sketch layer on top of my lineart layer, and then a color layer beneath that, all of which is sitting on my background layer. You can change the opacity of your sketch layer to see your lines underneath it while not covering up the sketch as you do line art, and use the color layer underneath to fill in the lines without masking them. Digital art requires a bit more work than traditional pen and ink because it lacks finesse, but in the end you can do a lot more with it.

>>6714830
Whoa, nice

>>6714728
if your middle eastern, sure. Otherwise its the multinational billion dollar corporations

>>6714845
again this is all helpful advice thank you, i will work to improve it and then repost later! god speed on all your future art anon

today's studies

>>6714828
I always watch it 2x so it feels like normals speed

>>6714863
No problem anon, that's what /beg/ is for

>>6714872

Hello beg. Today it looks okay. Kritas vanilla ellipse tool is unusable: it doesnt rotate around its center so trying to fit it into perspective square is impossible. And using the ellipse assistant is like 10 clicks before you can pop out 1 ellipse. Its over.

>>6714792
grinding lines seems like wasted effort to me since you "grind" the lines while you draw actual scenes and stuff. Just draw and you will improve over time
>>6714765
there is nothing wrong with chicken scratching in sketching phase
>>6714714
i would love to claim i hate it too, but first i would actually need to learn how to produce clean lineart lmao
>>6714658
severe anatomy errors (eye placement), symbol drawing (noses, eye shapes). Loomis is for advanced BEGs if not outright INTs. Pick up book for BEGs like Keys to Drawing before you will attempt loomis.
>>6714604
looks cool
>>6714501
i kneel
>>6714497
needs a bit more hard edges, like this he is kinda dissolving into background

>>6714828
Ngmi

>>6714921
have you tried using circle tool and then transforming it into perspective instead?

how would you solve this foreshortened leg using Lineart only?
I think this is hard to convey using lines, yeah I could use simple shapes but it wouldn't look like a leg
Can a skillful guy simplify this without the drapery?

Whats the consensus on Huion inspiroy tablets? I found a really good price and it's making me want to buy one and start digitally drawing for real.

>>6714935
head to /dtg/

>>6714958
Thanks, sorry for the mix up.

>>6714497
drew him again, younger form.

>>6714978
quick sketch of his rival, the Sephiroth to his Cloud.
hopefully i paint it tomorrow

>>6714934

>>6714988
just what I needed
thank you so much anon!

>>6714921
bro, please.
less perspective studies, more face and gesture practice

>>6714934
as far as my understanding of the knee goes I would say it would be something like this
also, where are people finding these jap girls pics
>>6714935
I want to buy a kamvas 13-16, I think I'll take my chances

>>6714978
that looks awesome love the pastel effect

>>6714978
this fucks.

>>6714994
thanks a lot, that was also very helpful

>>6714934
not skillful but here's a try

I wouldnt use that ref though

can someone please please please tell me how to make every android phone drawing app /not/ autistically zoom out 9000% and 5 miles to the left of the canvas every time i try to zoom out 25% barely touching the fuckin screen
sorry if wrong thread

Well it is better than what I could do months ago

>>6715004
thanks!

Anyone else only use one layer? Could use some tips

>>6715077
i draw the foreground then use the replace color tool to turn the blank white canvas into whatever sits behind it, sorta mimicing layer function
but also i'm retarded and can't into art so do not do what i do

>>6715077
>>6715083
Why not just use layers?

>>6715086
More painterly , but above all more free , your workflow doesn’t change between software or physical mediums

>>6715086
the app i used to draw for several years didn't have them

>>6714456
Spent some time with Christopher Hart today.

>>6714501
We want to establish a Chiaroscuro Relationship between her hair and face the same way you did between her head, neck, and torso. If it was intentional or not, the chiaroscuro shadow allows the viewers eyes to be drawn into the center of the chest without taking attention away from the face. We want this same harmony between the hair and face so the viewers eyes are drawn towards the chest. When I step back and take a look, the hair sticks out to me as being a bit flat and higher in contrast. Step back and notice how the hair battles for the attention of the cloth, body and face. We want our eyes to be drawn into the center of the portrait, so lower the contrast to the same realism as her clothes, accessories, and body.. I think. Great work!

I've just finished part 3 of Keys to Drawing (on proportion) and I'd like to learn construction to begin drawing humans. I wanted first to go Bridgman mode but I think it's a little bit too much for now, or maybe I'm wrong.

I was thinking to restart Fun with a Pencil. It was the first book I used but I couldn't do a thing because it was full of symbol drawing and not understanding depth. I've work a little on cylinder , boxes and sphere since few weeks or drawing object in depth (drawing trough). I'm also doing the beans exercice (very useful for beginner I think).

I plan on continuing KtD now and then, but for now, I want to draw human and construction.

anon here again. the art in this board is looking pretty decent, but could use some crit

>>6711084
work on anatomy before learning to paint/color/shade. this will help your understanding of the simple building blocks that make up the human body easier. i recommend "Love Life Drawing", or "David Finch".

>>6711087
honestly, solid. my only critiques are the right forearm is too small and too short, and the right lower leg isnt foreshortened properly, and again, too big. also finish the fucking hands and face.

>>6711093
same as the last anon, "work on anatomy before learning to paint/color/shade. this will help your understanding of the simple building blocks that make up the human body easier. i recommend "Love Life Drawing", or "David Finch"."

>>6711117
nothing i can say. just keep drawing. (also look up on andrew loomis)

>>6711155
the sonic is decent, can't really crit cartoon style characters, my only real issue is the girls face. it seems like you've got the basic understnad of the circle the triangle method for the head structure, but you need to practice placing the facial features on the face, to a point hwere it looks good. for example, the mouth. i would (on a seperate page) practice a shit ton on mouths from the smae angle (or different angles) until you get it right. thats what i did and it helped me tremendously.

>>6711162
stop studying bridgeman, he's shit

>>6711203
thats very slow. just keep practicing. i recommend watching "Proko", "David Finch", "Marc Brunet", or "Love Life Drawing"..

>>6711469
start grinding anatomy/proportions ASAP. im telling you, you have potential i can see. you're just missing a final key to unlock that door.

>>6711513
practice proportions. the right forearm is way too small and out of perspective. the face isnt that good. you should study the loomis method, and study facial features seperatley on different pages. grind each on and combine them on a face and you'll see what im talking about.

This angle was so difficult for Me. 3/4ths is already something I struggle with but adding a slight “up angle” made it worse. Going to have to level up. Feels like everytime I draw anything I learn I have to go back to studying.

>>6715121
pyw

>>6715133
Jus draw skulls

>>6715139

New power piece thoughts

I've been reading IT.

>>6715176
Imagine reading lol

>>6715185
Imagine not reading

>>6715175
Focus more on your line work and less on coloring , you got that part down

>>6715191
It's actually the other way round. Line art was on purpose cuz i was just trynna practice coloring. Plus I like it sketchy icl

>>6715197
Not the lines themselves , more like the anatomy/shape language

Hey.
From my point of view the shadows are decent but it doesn't look quite right. I'm thinking direct lighting in places would help but any time I try add on some hard lighting it goes to shit. Any tips?

>>6715208
Shadows are all wrong , just use reference

Did some rendering study, got tired halfway and speed through a bit but it looks ok i guess.
Am I gona make it?

>>6715264
well, how long have you been drawing (overall your whole life)

>>6715266
Well I did draw since i was a kid but not very serious, just stickman doodling. I only just take it a bit more seriously for about a year, studying fundamental and stuff and this is best i got so far. I wish to do more imaginative drawing tho, just studying and copying kinda bored me.

been a little slow lately, hasn’t it?

>>6715264
Renderings fine for the most part, don’t forget to have fun though

>>6714508
>>6714524
>>6714921
ty anons

>>6714510
nah

>>6714702
i'll gtfo if i get more than 2 digits on my twt posts jk

>>6714830
damn this looks better. her right arm looks good too. i've been overthinking what to do with her arm because it looks like it's extending with her thighs when the image is zoomed out. i'm so dumb i didn't think of that.

>>6715106
thank you! i'll try to look into this chiaroscuro thing. it's the first time i heard of it but i understand what you are talking about.

i havent drawn in a very long time. any tips for getting loose and confident? rn im just working around my abilities

>>6715337
Gesture drawings

>>6714456
Stupid question, but how do you paint without covering your lineart? I'm using Hipaint on android tablet.

>>6715390
>add new layer
>move layer under lineart
????

>>6715392
I'm retarded, thanks for your help.

I've been trying to box some heads but for some angles I really feel like i'm doing something wrong.
Can somebody help?
redline-less picture here
https://files.catbox.moe/1uayj0.png

>>6715399
Aren't you supposed do this in the reverse? Figure out how to draw box rotations first and then draw heads inside.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/NqBxb

>>6714658
>>6714692
>>6714671
I'm a beg but I much much prefer pic related compared to Fun with a Pencil. In fun with a pencil you start off drawing ugly old dudes and you have no confidence because you have absolutely no idea what you're doing. Meanwhile picrel gives you a ton of useful tips and exercises just in the first chapter and its drawing from life from the beginning.

>>6715399
Wtf are you even trying to do?

>>6715408
>>6715418
I thought "hey, what if I try to box the head", guess it wasn't effective.

woah

>>6715410
I don't see why this needs a mature warning.

really making progress, currently trying meds map
ive never drawn faces for a while because they looked so shit but after 50 they already look passable
feeling good, gonna ride this high to the next plateau

Went back to an old piece today, feels like I'm making some gains. Anatomy on its own isn't that hard but I really struggle with the rotations of all the disparate parts when put together. Both drawn from imagination.

>>6715468
>procreate
I’m using that too for medsmap right now. What brushes are you using? These have been my go-to https://justinoaksford.gumroad.com/l/rVtNs?layout=profile

>>6714581
try to pet it.

>>6715475
very pretty

dunno how to shade/render this
>>6715475
soul

>>6715475
Looks great! But take another look at her left hand

>>6715440
!!!

>>6715399
Instead of a box, try just oblong ball + mask of face + angle of jaw

>>6715520
Yeah, the arms/hands were pretty rough. It looked too flat in the original, but then I got lazy and frustrated trying to make it look more formed without having to totally redraft it. It should be titled down more, or rotated so it's more in line with the wrist, I think?

First time I’ve drawn on paper in a long while. Feels good but takes forever, which is kind of nice

>>6715484
I just use the sinix brushes, not sure where to get them since my gf had the ipad and suddenly they were there

>>6715526
helloooooo nurse

Did I fuck up the coloring/shading or is it just me? I sorta think the right one looks better than left. If so, what exactly do I fix?

>>6715021
Start with less values and exaggerate the edges of your lights and darks more, then blend the edges.

>>6715564
First things first, please fix the weird potato face

>>6715484
>>6715528
https://youtu.be/aGPnN0Yoldw
https://www.patreon.com/sinix/posts?filters[tag]=brushes

how do you learn to draw lines after drawing everything lineless since the beginning of time
is it possible
should i just trace the contours of my color blobs and pretend i did things in the normal sequential order

>>6715287
missing back of head behind jaw, your face style is cute!

>>6715580
Yeah you can add the lines on the contours afterwards. Some people work that way where they do an underpainting before cleaning up the edges of the contours with a dark color to make them look like there's linework.

>>6715570
Like this?

>>6715584
No, it it’s sitting completely flat on the head

>>6715590
What is?

>>6714456 Are there any obvious fuck ups I'm missing in this?

>>6715598
either the mouth is too high or the lower third of the face is too long

I only grind fundies everyday I am scared to do my own artwork since 2 months now what should I do? I only draw boxes circles cylinders and gestures

What do you think

>>6715619
Some good stuff in there! Seems like faces and arms are your weakest spots. Your cloth and shading could be more interesting, if grinding those two get boring.

/trad/ niggers are asleep rn

>>6715142
Sorry anon I refuse to study the skeleton. All the evidence in the world that it’s beneficial to your gains could be shown to me and I would still refuse to be learned. Drawing skulls is Fake and Gay I know it in my gut.

>>6715669
ngmi

>come here less and less
>notice the largest improvements

>>6715671

Made this one without reference

I’m starting to be happy with where i am, but its not super dynamic

>>6715669
>Unhappy with faces
>study the skull
>just add flesh to the skull and i can suddenly draw everything with an amazing improvement to before
>it was that easy

At which resolution / brush size do you usually draw?

I know it's a silly question, but I think my characters are too small, I always have to zoom in.

freehand cubes are hard as fuck. i cant imagine or draw to the horizon line very well. any tips other than just drawing a bunch of them? its for a vilppu exercise
also rock studies are pretty hard too

>>6715719
just imagine the sides of the cubes always converging at some point, the more skewed it is the closer the cam is to the cube

>>6715704
My go-to is 5000x4000 and around ~10px for the brush, for sketching. Some brushes like pencils are higher and used more lightly tho.

>>6710348
Don't bully My art or you know What might happen.

>>6715142
>>6715687
NTA but any good skull sources / materials?
I could use that practice

>>6715687

>>6715669

>Unhappy with heads
>Go to ic for advice
>Throw a tantrum when given advice and refuse to work on deficiencies
>"wah why can't I improve"

>>6715800
What makes you think I won’t improve? I just told you I don’t want to study skulls. I can still practice by just drawing heads rofl. Picrel is what I’m learning to emulate right now. My problem wasn’t with the anatomical structure of the head, it was with foreshortening in general. You all are so easily ruffled somtimes, I promise you it’s not that serious. I’m not even denying the importance of studying skulls, I’m outright admitting I just don’t want too. Where’s the tantrum?

absolute /beg/ just started to grind figure for the first time. have a habit of making the figure the same size as the reference on my screen (i.e. if i zoom the reference in i'll end up with a larger drawing)

is this bad? does this mean i'm just "reading" the ref rather than understanding what i'm doing?

>>6715832
You solve this by measuring the figure before drawing.

>>6715704
about 1800*1200 and brushes in the 3-10px range (for lineart at least, whatever it takes for colors) but I usually draw shit like this without any details so I doubt upscaling would change anything

>>6715846
I really like this drawing

Messy self portrait. Scanned pictures get this really cool stripey effect if you turn up the color depth, so I tried making something with it

i keep wanting to do neon lighting and it always kicks my butt bc i have no idea how to make it look good
also how do i make this hotter, general critique and advice, etc. plz

>>6715860
Very sexy, anon. I like it

Are there places to get more refs besides stuff like posemaniacs?
No anime, tho. Kinda lost trust to them.

>>6715754
hoooly based

>>6715868
Adorkastock on DeviantArt
Quickposes
A lot more of these are linked in the /ic/ wiki

>>6715860
seek mental support

>>6715871
Thanks

>>6715868
draw from life, it's summer so a lot of people are running around in thinner type clothing too, so seeing anatomy is easier this time of year

>>6715607
Ever heard of One punch man? The original web comic by ONE is a complete mess artistically, but people didn't come for that. No, they came for humor and surreal situations Saitama would get into.
My point is think about why you started drawing in the first place. For ONE, it was making people laugh. For me, it's an outlet for my lust towards children. Find your catalyst.

>>6715876
I kind of wanted to get sort of good in case someone(possibly a girl) gets curious what I draw. I don't want to embarrass myself with shitty drawings.

>>6715881
>doing things for girls
faggot

but really, consider drawing from life, you'll really benefit from it instead of wasting a lot of time trying to find references that aren't just wacky poses you'll never actually see with shitty light/anatomy

a lot more variety in body types and clothing too

Wtf I thought Artstudio pro was subscription only???

>>6715881
this is peak beta, but godspeed you fucking freak

>>6715883
>>6715886
>>doing things for girls
I have nothing to do in public spaces that would keep me in one place for longer without me feeling totally out of place. I usually just go do errands or bicycling alone.
Online art is obviously different thing and I kinda want to focus on that, but still, an excuse to go outside would be nice.

>>6715893
>wants to get better at drawing
>also wants a reason to get out more
welcome to drawing from life anon, don't be a fucking faggot and make excuses, get out and draw
>Online art is obviously different thing and I kinda want to focus on that
get an ipad or some shit, problem solved

>>6715868
Get a camera or a mirror and make them yourself. This will require the ability to do the pose and transfer it to different body types.

Collected drawings from today and yesterday. Most were copied from either Vilppu or other artists, but the girl in the dress was drawn completely from imagination. Any advice or criticisms?

>>6715897
I guess I got no choice, then. Who I'm kidding, I will find a new excuse, god damn it.

>Ipad,
You mean the something I could bring outside? Kinda planned on getting a phone stylus and using old smartphone for that.

>>6715898
Good advice, too. Thanks.

whats a good exercise to practice both my mechanical drawing skills and observation?

>>6715900
phone would be too small, if digital's what you want, then get a tablet and go crazy outside

>>6715901
try practising drawing mechanically and observing

>>6715901
watch your favorite artist's streams for 200 hours until it's imprinted on your retinas

>>6715904
>then get a tablet and go crazy outside
Will try pen&paper first and then go ask for cheap tablet. As far I know, that stuff can get expensive.

>>6715828

>where's the tantrum?
>>6715828

>>6715911
>As far I know, that stuff can get expensive
it can be, but it depends on what your goals are, if you prefer digital, accept the price tag and get going; but if you're fine doing trad for practice too, then whatever

Might need to do a new self portrait to see how much I've degraded.

>>6715899
The drawing from memory’s proportions could use some help. Her head is incredibly large and her lower half very short. If this is your stylistic preference though, I guess it’s alright. Her face is very wide, both eyes are a good distance from the nose despite the tilt of the head. I’d either make them larger or move them in, but again, it’s really up to you. You could try to create some depth with the eyes, too. The head doesn’t connect to the shoulder correctly either. The problem starts around the ear, really the neck should be seen meeting the head nearer the ear than the jaw, but maybe that’s her hair covering it? Idk. The neck should kind of swoop into the shoulder, in your drawing it kinda just goes straight down and then takes a hard turn. If you get the neck-to shoulders region down the arms will come a lot easier to you as well.

Otherwise good beginnings anon, maybe try to draw with a lighter hand and a thinner pencil though.

how do you go about painting pale skin tones
such as those old japanese paintings

>>6715974
>add your base colour
>done

hello beg. draw thousand of ellipses.

>>6714933
that is truly creative solution but it doesnt solve the inherent issue: how to pop out ellipses in least amount of clicks. there are also THREE different ellipse assistants in krita, one of them draws ellipse between 4 points (of square in perspective), but its like 20 mouse click + switching tool + enabling magnet. meanwhile if vanilla ellipse tool was a little less retarded thats 2 clicks per piece
>>6714992
the plan is to go into figure drawing after i kill perspective for good
>>6715933
looks okay, pick up pen and ink it
>>6715901
>drawing skills
just draw
>observation
read and do keys to drawing (so you know what to look out for) and then draw shitton of stuff from reference
>>6715899
it looks like you know what you are doing
>>6715860
making it less blurry and adding more contrast via highlights would be a good start. also background and foreground should have different color
>>6715849
i dont believe you look like anime character
>>6715832
absolute begs need to level up observation first so pick up keys to drawing, as bonus it will answer your question in chapter 3
>>6715704
twice the resolution of my monitor, so 2x2k
>>6715679
SOUL
>>6715637
watercolor? kinda funny how you have hard edges on her face in such medium which blends colors so easily. cute thot
>>6715607
just draw

my simpsons oc

What tool is Loomis using to get shading like this? Is he just using a pencil?

>>6716000
Just a pencil and eraser probably yes.
You can see it's not blended.

Pokeyman

Mixer brush is the secret

Vibrant

>>6716000
in the books he says he uses pencil yes
those strokes and shading is by using a pencil sharpened with a razor so you have that longer tip you can use for broader strokes and mark variation

>>6716095
Are you retarded. Instead of writing cute little teehee notes on your drawing, look at some fucking reference and learn something how to draw it.

30, count 'em, 30 years of life, and have never once "made it".

>>6716116
You are able to post here in my book you already made it. Probably has a roof over his head, running water, a toilet, you made it bro.

>>6716113
Calm down kiddo it’s a beginner board , stop being a fag

>>6715569
Alright thank you this helped a lot i tried going back with the values with trying to make them darker its still quite difficult.

>>6714456
Nothing wrong, right?

Welp. It finally happened. Upgraded my PC and photoshop no longer works, guess I'm a clip studio paint chad now.
>Adobe has a net worth of $200 billion
>their software is still buggy as all fuck
I just don't understand.

>>6716173
Pajeets are coding it

>>6716173
CSP is best, fuck adobe and their gay AI shit

>>6716158
Red figure's arm should not clip into the body like that. These bodies have form, and your drawings don't convey this.

>>6716173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fBrB6Pp3Do

>>6715679

>>6716255
again, very good. but for the love of FUCKING GOD, FINISH A SKETCH. i dont think ive seen you finish a single drawing ever on this board. thats whats holding you back. your good, just lazy.

>>6716207
I was going to fix that later hence the transparency

I just wanted to ask if blue girl is fine.
I have no reference for the right thigh and wondering if I fucked up

>These bodies have form, and your drawings don't convey this.
Red line me?

>>6716258
Anon I’ve finished plenty, i just dont post them in this general usually. Sometimes on /alt/ but that thread seems to have disappeared. But ill cook something up for you soon

>>6716173
Adobe never cared about making their shit good. At least 2d artists have options. Adobe still has 3D artists by the balls with Substance Painter, especially since the only competitions (Armour Paint) is so incompetent they can't even distribute a working product half the time.

>>6716260
>Red line me?
You get more than enough red lines from that thread. Do some actual life studies for a change.

How do I avoid constantly zooming in when it comes to digital art? On the internet they say it's a bad habit

>>6716287
Just don't pinch?

>>6716290
If I don't zoom out I fill in the gaps

>>6716285
Geez.
I am all ears for improvement

low angles are hard

Need some help with CSP, new to it. I've done shadows and some other details in greyscale, how do I make them look normal on color layer?

>>6716287
Zooming in when doing detail work/doing colors is normal, but your base form sketches shouldn't be zoomed in, it breaks your drawing's accuracy/cohesivenesss.

>>6716287
draw on your phone, and it'll spaz out every time you try zooming, so much so that you never feel like zooming again

>>6716352
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMXvO9JHaCw

Even though this vid uses csp, the process is the exact same in every art program.

Tried to rush through the first pages of Loomis’s Fun With a Pencil today. First time learning to draw. Any advice? Critiques?

>>6716382
Me at the bottom right.

>>6716382
Keep at it and enjoy yourself :)

>>6715679
you've got mad skills but that face is so unappealing

Just a sketch piece to be consistent

>>6716146
these threads are for critique and advice, what do you expect

Some gesture attempts, first few are 1 m the rest 2 m. Some I fucked really badly up.

Are these gesture settings even worth my time? Should I not just start drawing what I want to draw, use reference and go from there?

>>6716419
sessions not settings

>>6716419
>is it worth my time?
well, are your actual figures getting better?

booba study

>>6716102
Bro don't ruin your stuff by adding noise like that.

>>6716426
I don't draw figures I only do gesture and simple volumes

Any major flaws with the anatomy or tips in general?

>>6714805
where the fuck are we, anon?

Grass

Hello, /ic/. I've been drawing since for a while, but I started to draw a little more seriously in March and I have for the first time (more or less) finished a drawing of mine. I've noticed a lot of things that are horribly drawn, such as the hands bigger than one another, the head being too big, fucking up the collar, eyes not parallel, hair highlight being out of place. I'd like someone to critique my art, I still don't know all the fundies, but I would like some pointers here and there. Thank you very much, any critique is appreciated

I like grass.
It's soft, and rarely leaves it's original position.

>>6716497
Choose better colors, you have the entire visible spectrum dude , your color choice is muddy , learn some color theory or print out a color wheel

>>6715879
you talk like a fag and your shits all retarded

>>6715679
I like the style and I think the face is actually cute.

>>6716514
>forgot to crop
fuck.

>>6716517
well its a person who just would have skin color skin and some trees (either brown or greenish) and her robes are pure white

im very creatively bankrupt with color i gotta admit i come from just drawing black and whtie,

could use some epic critism

>>6716548
Impressive. Very nice.

Painted some robot. It evolved from a doodle, I really should perhaps do some thumbnail sketches before committing, rather than going with a meh doodle that I immediately start painting. Would love some feedback. think the background was a bit phoned in. Overall I think allowing myself to plan a bit more, slowing down and not immediately pouncing on a sketch that might not be the greatest to then develop into a painting will be important for me to get better. Well that and practice of course. What do you guys think? Would love some feedback.

>>6716147
Might help to start on a mid-tone background instead of white, that way you can do proper highlights with white and have them have the right kind of contrast.

>>6716548
The location of that nose highlight could be a bit better.

>>6716551
Now let’s see Paul Allen's yaoi webtoon.

>>6716571
facts

>>6716568
im glad you did gorl......................... cool robot in all seriousness teehee i wanna kms

starting the portrait grind

starting the portrait grind

>>6716548
patrick gayman instead of dropping chainsaws onto hookers and jamming cats into ATMs he just bitches on twitter and gets aids by fucking dudes under bridges

Trying to get better at going from a sketch to a painting, how does this look any crits/advice?

>>6716548
Moshi moshi beitoman desu

>>6716633
735kbdude up your res lol your lines are the size of freeways

Wanted to quickly practice perspective, ended-up with an almost-anime almost-ScarJo

>>6716548
Love it

Fuck I should stick to anime

It’s really grating how in DAB he’s doing lessons via photoshop and can erase while you’re forced to do it using ink and end up with a mess
I followed his wolf demo and gave up because he keeps making mistakes then erasing

>>6716637
you ended up with alien disguised as a cokehead in a bakshi cartoon

>>6716686
Don't do DAB past insects, ideally stop at lesson 2. Irshad is a hack. Literally do Dynamic Sketching instead.

>>6716686
>he fell for the draw a box meme

i've been drawing for years, my rendering has got much better, but i my hand/eye cordination still sucks, what do i do?

>>6716702
I just don't to quite and i'm trying to follow the radiorunner course as best as I can but I might do what >>6716690 said and switch for Dynamic Sketching, I did week 1 of it anyway.

Also you're so right. The insects was already stretching it but am I really going to use sausages to draw animals?

>>6716710
Irshad is fucking garbage, drop DAB

>>6716707
observation skills https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5Qn_Iwv9A&t=11s

Another tutorial video in a language I cannot understand in..........

I basically gave up on the back part along side the "gun" on its left. But finally finished a drawing I guess.

Why are there no good tutorials on using clip studio? I have to spend dozens of hours watching different videos just to learn basic techniques and features

>>6714456
i have a question
while drawing girls who are 4 to 5 heads tall how do you guys avoid not making the head huge?
i been trying to draw this Touhou character but the head looks huge compared to the body. Any tips?

>>6716785
If X says it, then I can't quit it...

>>6715879
Absolutely unabashedly unapologetically Ultra Based.

Same, main goal is to draw stuff I find hot in fiction such as: bestiality, straight shota, Loli and so on

>>6716784
Just make the head smaller? What the fuck do you expect us to say

Finished my master study of comic book art. Usually stick to anime stuff but decided to change it up since I wanted to practice more inking and my g pen.

Learned a lot but happy for the first time I made zero ink smudges. Still got a long way to go frens.

>>6716813
i don't know maybe there was some trick to it.

>>6716820
cool as fuck

I'm not sure where else to ask this, in CSP is there a way to make the lasso fill tool refer to the lineart ref layer? The closest I've gotten is by clipping layers but depending on the shape it won't work.

I attached a picture of what I'm talking about, I want to get the result on the right using the red stroke on the left. I can get the result I want by drawing the line then using the paint bucket (refering to the ref layer) but that's 2 buttons instead of 1.

>>6716820
Billionaire playboy Bruce Wayne using his trauma to dress up as a bat and fight poor people in Gotham?
I kneel....

When it comes to learning how to draw I just feel.. stupid. Generally I am quick to pick things up, and am great at doing the same things over and over again. But for art it just feels different.
Like say drawing a shape it feels impossible for me to replicate it the same way every single time.Is it just a motoric skill I need to practice?

>>6716858
Yes.

Drawing is more like drilling for a sport than it is like a knowledge-based activity you would study traditionally for.

>>6716885
Well I guess that explains it.

>>6716885
>>6716858
no
It's actually more like playing an instrument

>>6714921
>>6715414
I only saw your feedback today, I'll take a look at Keys to Drawing, but here is where I was at last night with trying to draw Loomis despite being a BEG.

What does /ic/ say? Am I beg tier? Do you like any of my art?
https://unsee cc/album#40xRByz3vj0m

Put a . Between unsee and cc

>>6716934
You're like mid beg tier at best. There's something to work with here.

>>6716947
>There's something to work with here
Can you elaborate anon
If it helps, the last one is the latest one. First one is probably the oldest.

>>6716933
You are getting better Anon!

>>6716933
>this guy going into foreshortening the head from the get-go
hardcore

>>6716989
oh man that's beautiful!

>>6716615
good. but i dont like how the mouth or eyes are drawn. its not something you can fix now, when you figure out you're style you'll know

How's my skeleton?

thoughts?

Hello beg, today i tried to be trad chad. After 1 year of digital faggotry going trad is eh. The worst is how your hand smears graphite over the paper, how quickly your pencil dulls and how impossible and imprecise the eraser is for creating white highlights. Not to mention when you take photo it suddenly looks different. But hey at least they cannot accuse you of tracing

>>6717205
try a little harder
>>6716989
cute lolies
>>6716934
imho you fit into beg
>>6716858
less thinking, more drawing
>>6716820
i kneel
>>6716784
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing/page/70
>>6716725
this one is too busy. remember anon: less is more. or you need to utilize color or different line weight to split foreground and background
>>6716707
draw more (from reference)
>>6716570
that head is too large lol
>>6716568
that is pretty cool
>>6716497
its okay but kinda bland. the hand sinking into red nothing is garbage though. the missing shade makes apple completely flat and the fingers arent even connected to it

>>6717236
>this one is too busy. remember anon: less is more. or you need to utilize color or different line weight to split foreground and background

okay thanks I will keep it in mind.

>>6716820
Dope.

>>6714499
This is actually awesome anon, holy shit thank you so much

>>6717236
>The worst is how your hand smears graphite over the paper
Use a scrap sheet of paper.

>How quickly your pencil dulls
Use the side of a wood pencil tip, a mechanical pencil, or invest in a lead holder.

>and how impossible and imprecise the eraser is for creating white highlights. Not to mention when you take photo it suddenly looks different.
OK that I can't help with that.

>But hey at least they cannot accuse you of tracing
There's light boxes and *tracing paper*. Retards will sling accusations regardless.

>>6717148
OK.. what's your problem with the mouth and eyes?

>>6715208
If you want to be a coomer, lasso+airbrush+blender

Also shade with a color other than black. When you color pick, a good idea is to go more saturated as you get darker

>>6717290
>>6715208
tut I used

>>6717236
>imho you fit into beg
What did you notice most wrong with my art? High beg? Mid? Low? Ty for responding anon

Shiny. I want shiny. How to I get shiny?

Is it better for beginners to do a lot of sketches or should I focus on finishing my drawings?

>>6717361
Finishing your drawings is a skill in itself, so I would recommend a mix of each to develop both your sketching skills and polishing skills. Don't end up like some Anons here who have been drawing for years but have only unfinished sketches to show for it.
You could do ~10 sketches and try finishing the 1 or 2 of the better ones. Sketches allow you to 'fail faster' so you don't end up 'polishing a turd'. By only finishing the better sketches we can avoid wasting time on drawings that were doomed to fail. As a beginner, naturally your sketches won't be very good and fundamental mistakes will be made early on in the drawing, so a 'quantity of quality' mindset will help you to improve faster. As you improve you'll notice these mistakes earlier on and also develop the skills needed to fix them. You will also need fewer sketches to get a good base to work off, so then you can spend more time finishing stuff.

Probably too late to get advice but I am trying to redraw my character in a position where she is riding a scythe, and I’m struggling with foot and arms and making it not look awkward, not sure if the hand p,a cement would look cooler further up on the shaft?

>>6717236
>https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing/page/70
thanks man but turns out the stupid phone camera was making the head appear bigger. I was wondering why the drawing looked fine on paper but as soon as i took the photo the head grew 10x times

trying painting

Would like some critique and redline please.

finished this yesterday how'd i do
every time i come here the thread already hit the post limit lol

>>6717550
Neck on left character would be huge.

i have like 7 gesture drawings i did and would like some critiques, what site should i use to post them on?

>>6717550
brother your anatomy is all over the place, I'm not even sure where to begin. huge, distended neck, legs of differing length, the thighs of the one on the right look like there's an extra joint in the center with how they're bent
Your lines are very clean though

>>6717602
in /beg/ duh

do 10-30 second quick sketches

Do 10-30 second quicksketches, builds brainmass

>>6717606
sorry i dont want to spam the thread or make an autistic collage, was thinking of a site to host it or something idk

The most important skill is observation and unironically feeling the form. Change my mind.

>>6717687
sure, but only because feeling the form is a grouping of many separate skills

>>6717802
>>6717802
new beg
>>6717802