/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6686173
Where do you like to find fashion inspiration?

>>6684732
>>6680852

Please, be creative in art as creative in making-up yourself problems

>>6680893
Have same problem

>>6680184
Depends from model. For perspective it's good, for muscle could be meh
>>6680170
I use tilt, set it on size-change. Too annoying to switch between sizes manually

>>6676671
Shadows are darkest right behind terminator. You did not added shadows while author did.
>>6663046
Dictionary of art terms exists, dunno what question is
https://www.moma.org/learn/moma_learning/glossary/

>>6658239
Try thumbnailing, also try to imagine changes in your head before using pencil

>>6655000
90% of is artist's taste. You need to develop own taste in everything to be unique
>>6637360
This is why we draw in steps
>>6633896
I don't remember your question in previous thread
>>6632956
Photo yourself and make own references
>>6633845
If you only need to stitch pictures together why you can't use android's draw apps?
>>6686200
>>>/fa/
/fa/ sticky has /fa/ wiki. /fa/ wiki has fashion shops, guides and other stuff

>>6686207
>Have same problem
What's your problem exactly? do your constructed drawings feel stiff?

>>6686224
Struggle to pick something one from a mass, sometimes at final stages notice anatomy/construction/perspective is fucked. I think it's just shit taste and need to reread fundies

What's a good canvas size?

>>6686173
watchdominion.org

Please watch this approximately two hour long free documentary film

watchdominion.org

>>6686200
For regular, everday stuff, WAYWT threads on /fa/ and other fashion forums. I also like to look at runway looks, especially the impractical, over the top ones. I recently watched a couple of Mugler's shows from the 90s and those are like peak evil lady inspo

>>6686255
>>6686256
virus

Does everyone who does commissions online just have a business license? I’ve only ever sold my art for cash at garage sales and community events, so I don’t know how to do this more formally for online services like PayPal and stripe where they ask for business details. I don’t want my personal info to be listed publicly as some customer support hotline, for example.

>>6686253
Rule of thumb is you want a canvas that matches the resolution of what you want your images displayed on. If your work is mostly viewed on pc consider anywhere between 1080 to 4k resolution. Phones and images displayed on sites like twitter may differ on how images are displayed. Twitter is absolutely fucking retarded with how they show their images so be prepared to have retarded crops.

>>6686173
This is the only board I know of that uses “stupid” to describe the questions. Plenty of questions don’t deserve their own thread and it is convenient and efficient to place them in a single thread. But you are insecure yourself and projecting it on others, who in turn adopt this mentality. Perhaps it’s faux modesty to insult yourselves first in hopes that others will show sympathy. Either way, the threads on other boards have always been QTDDTOT, unless you are truly making a thread for “stupid” questions only.

>>6686402
Extremely reddit post, but also moderately based. /ic/ has always been a pretentious board, I assume the thread theme just plays along with that.

>>6686415
faux modesty is a trait of women and low T males. I’m not surprised that it is prevalent on /ic/.

>>6686402
I don’t know if it was the very first thread on here ever but the first one I saw that’s been continued to now started with an OP who had a question on making those images that change when you click on them, and he felt like he was being stupid. The thread was open to other questions too so it wouldn’t get buried. If I had a link to the thread I would post it.

>>6686402
mucho texto

>>6686173
How does “studying your faves” work, exactly?
I know it involves copying, but what else?
You try to analyze the artworks you like, thinking “I like how he did xxx, but I don’t like how he did xxx…”?

>>6686627
https://youtu.be/ZqJ2h4Jw5nU
https://youtu.be/7ukExmlSRWU

David Finch teaches it best. You basically copy the work, and do memory drawing. Any analysis that doesn't involve drawing is a waste of time.

Kind of a dumb what if question but it's been on my mind. What if every person who posts pictures online is on the same board and incorrectly tags them with negative prompts like "bad hands, low quality" etc. Would that stunt or even hurt techjeets from scrapping data for ML?

>>6686726
Yes, it's called data poisoning:
https://towardsdatascience.com/how-to-attack-machine-learning-evasion-poisoning-inference-trojans-backdoors-a7cb5832595c

>>6686402
>>6686590
Nah, First ever /sqtddtot/ was made after fusion of /QTDDTOT/ and /sqt/, names speaks
https://archived.moe/_/search/boards/ic.de.rp.talk/subject/%2Fsqtddtot%2F/type/op/
https://archived.moe/_/search/boards/ic.de.rp.talk/subject/%2FQTDDTOT%2F/type/op/page/1/
Maybe threads should be called "/QTDDTOT/ + /sqtddtot/" as most "newcomers" are other 4channers

fuck, stuck again. Can anyone rec me courses/books to study? or tell me what i should work on? I already did all loomis books, perspective made easy and morpho:simplified forms. Dunno where to go from there, i already just draw, but i wanna optimize my drawing time. I started seriously studying this year and i saw some progress compared to 2020-22 when i just drew, so i would like to pick up something new.

>>6686906
no more books, do master studies. Not just old masters, but new ones too.

>>6686913
i do, kinda. I started doing value studies of takamichi. Unless you mean 1:1 copies, does that even help?

>>6686173
>op pic
Oh, didn't expect an actually useful fashion guide. Thanks!

>>6686915
>Unless you mean 1:1 copies, does that even help?
It helps. You said you want to optimize your drawing time, I'd suggest doing 1:1 copies of parts of master works, like just the face or just the hands. Doing a full master study is worth it though, you don't have to do it all in one session.
what you are doing in these pics is good too. Maybe even go back to loomis and really get a deeper understanding. Like copying his more refined sketches in figure drawing for all its worth.

Can firealpaca/medibang paint run on a M1/M2 macbook?

Firealpaca has been my main art program for 5+ years but I finally have to get a new laptop. I've been checking out the newer macbooks but can't find any answers whether firealpaca works on devices with the new M1/M2 chip.

is it worth trying to pursue a career in the industry? things seem so volatile right now

>>6686173
How do you consciously make an art style? I don't really study specific artists, I just draw what feels right, and sometimes my style looks inconsistent but defined.

>>6687495

>>6686173
So I tried to actively get into practicing drawing since 10 days ago (have tried only some drawing here and there across several years now, even trying to learn at one point for some time but stopped), and started off with a 5.5x8.5 inch sketchbook; also didn't realize I had an extra one nor a fucking 14x17 inch version (the latter I never even made a mark on) until I found them stashed away in some shelves
First few days went by okay, refamiliarizing myself with basic-3D-shaping and perspective stuff (having fun with the latter), doing some dumb doodles of characters without real regard for the logistics (off-proportions and whatnot), and then try to do some look-and-draw of heads
But then when it came to trying to draw SIMPLE forms like whole bodies standing, or even trying to get more analytical into the body parts I'm learning (with trying to re-orient, break down into shapes, and whatnot)? Shit feels like it's starting to get cramped, and I'm not sure if it's just because I feel more conscious and obligated into trying to draw smaller to fit more (rather than having just one page be a medium-sized form or two/three parts), or that having less than half the area of an A4 paper is that much more of a detriment than I thought; I even reorient it to be wherever it feels more practical and (relatively) nice to draw
Should I just make the swap to the 14x17 sketchbook now and leave the smaller sketchbooks be for niche stuff, or man up and stick to those small ones until they're both filled up?

>>6687926
Porque no los dos? Every size sketchbook can have a purpose. Simply use whatever is more comfortable for whatever you are doing. Don't force yourself to use the smaller ones for everything or the big one for everything, just use both for different things.
If you've ever seen an art class or a life drawing class, you may have noticed everybody has those gigantic 18x24 sketchbooks. Big sizes are great for studying from life and other such learning exercises, though the size can be a bit unwieldy for more casual stuff. The 5.5x8.5 is great if you want to do some doodles or for drawing outdoors/between classes/at work. I think that's just about the size James Gurney uses for his plein air watercolor paintings.
That said, I would recommend trying a nice medium sized sketchbook at some point. I like the 9x12s.

>>6686906
color studies
light studies
do some still life
grab a photo on google color pick it and draw it.

Should I hang out on Newgrounds or Deviantart?
I could choose both, but that's kind of a lot of art to dump.

Do people learn to draw by using nudes of their exes? Especially poorly focused ones with furniture in the background.

>>6688843
no, retard

Which board do I go to to ask for lots of references for very skimpy, very ridiculous outfits such as pic related? I have a ton of these I could dump if it helps

>>6688936
Why, I DO love ridiculously and unreasonably lewd, pure coombrain designs too…
I’d love a reference dump, especially in multiple-images-in-one format like the pic you uploaded.

>>6689197
>>6688936
All these words just to say that you're a pervert.

>>6686277
It depends on how much you sell. For the most part, artists will only make a couple bucks for a few comms a year. There's either a very informal contract or no contract at all. Payment is through Paypal or the like. I imagine the artist you have in this image would be in this gray market cause they're pretty /beg/ and prices are low.

As for pro artists selling digitally, hopefully someone more knowledgeable can fill you in.

>>6689566
Lil bro thinks he can shame me on the Mongolian basket weaving board

>>6686726
>prebegs thinking their trash scribbles will get stolen by the big bad AI
>put negative tags to their artwork in orden to "poison" data
>we can easily filter and hide their trash tier "art" now that it's correctly tagged.
>Feels good

Does CGpeers still accept new users? I have a friend who has an account but it says he cannot give any invites, does it ever open or is it closed forever?

>>6688936
/r/
...or go on Danbooru and search "full_body game_cg" for all sorts of lewd vn/gacha bitches.

>>6686272
Did you catch it?

>>6689572
I was hoping that was the case. I just wanted to make sure the IRS wouldn’t come after me for drawing somebody’s dog for $20.

is there an archive for /ic/ that saves the images posted? archived.moe doesn't do that

Does anyone have resources for filling out backgrounds and how to think of what goes there?

Even if I have an idea for the location of a scene like in front of a church for instance, I'll look up reference pics of a church, but all I ever do is just draw the reference pic. I don't know enough about architecture to be able to wing it. So I basically just photocopy and it sucks. I can't create backgrounds and worlds.

Who was that illustrator with the beautifully detailed disgusting horned trolls?

I think there was 2 stunning Scandi-themed illustrators who did fairly similar stuff. One did gratuitous trolls etc. the other sort of the same, but also went in depth and made a whole graphic language for the world he was depicting. Dwarves had those weird Samurai-like tall helms and masks... Shit, that last dude was so good with his design.

>>6686173
I prefer the outfits on the right side

>>6686277
proof that follower number > skill

>>6692926
Well, have you thought about opening a book on landscape and studying it thoroughly for dozens of hours?

How else.

>>6689587
Hoarding ≠ drawing. There's enough free stuff all around the place

>>6686906
you need some taste, go to a gallery

>>6692753
I think, warosu

>>6693097
thank you!!

How do y'all choose colours for character designs beyond just appealing aesthetic? I can find a lot of nice colour pallets but that doesn't always equivocate to good character design.

>>6693314
You can consider cultural inspirations or the personality of the character. It can be as simple as fiery spirit -> fire colors. You can draw from other things, like how kabuki tradition means generally the protagonists have red color schemes while opposing forces have blue colors.

Anyone got a good resource to get better at constructing the eye so I can draw it from different angles and whatnot?
Books, tutorial videos, etc

Advice for an /int/ that cruised on appeal alone for almost 10 years but who wants to relearn his fundamentals? It's for some reason incredibly painful to unlearn habits and i'm having a hard time letting go of perfectionism and just study and absorb things for the first time again. Not sure if it's both ego and broken self-esteem getting in the way of just looking at all this objectively. Would appreciate some sort of lesson plan if possible, though not necessary. I've attempted to do my own and I am getting incremental gains but would like to remove discomfort out of the process so I can focus.

>>6686173
How tall should the shoulders be on this sketch? I'm trying to draw a one piece swim suit

>>6693796
https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

Unironically this. The David Finch guide isn't perfect for day 1 beginners, but for people who have some experience drawing already. If you take it from the beginning, you will start with the foundation of basic forms, proportions, gesture, etc.

Does every set of parallel lines have it's own vanishing point?

>>6693926
Time to copy Bridgeman twice I suppose...

>>6686173
Does the L in Lab correspond to value?

>>6694064
L is lightness. Mostly the same as value.
http://www.huevaluechroma.com/013.php

>>6694087
Thanks!

how do I learn the nuances of how to work with color? for example, I'm following a painting course and most exercises so far were just greyscale values. now that its gotten to color, he says "find images or photos that have color you like, and without using an eyedropper, pick those colors and make a pallet with them" The issue is though if you just take those exact colors and try to implement them in any way you want, it loses all the balance and small areas where they interact that makes it appealing to begin with.

What other programs let me to do something like this: fucking around with palette, dithering, scaling; having side-by-side preview vs original, seeing how it all impacts the filesize.
Basically what photoshop does but not photoshop.

>>6694259
Starting greyscale is a great way to get the initial values but colour picking does limit you if you are trying to work from real life ever or obviously if you want to draw from imagination.

I would highly recommend James Gurney's Colour and Light book. It talks about why certain colours are the way they are and what needs to be replicated in order to get that balance/composition as well as making it look "correct".

>>6693070
pyw

>>6686277
depending on a country and depending on the amount of money you earn that way you will need to be registered as a private trader. if you can't live off your furry commissions there's nothing to worry about. this is for europe. in america, the land of the free, I believe you are going to jail immediately

>>6694386
thank you, there was another book by him I was going to go through next but I'll look into that one too

>>6694259
He is correct, training yourself to eyeball a color's value is always good advice. Also the HSV/B color space which most color pickers use, while great for pinpointing a color w/in the RGB model, is practically dogshit as a tool for informing you in what colors to use

Someone pls explain fps to me, like really break it down I'm dumb and don't understand. After watching countless vids I still don't get it...Like if a person were to tell me "this animation was done on 15fps" wtf does that even mean? Is it different image 15times?

>>6694931
15 images a second

>>6694932
Nothing makes sense

>>6694937
are you actually retarded?

>>6694937
are you actually retarded? Like not in the cute "uwu" way, but actually fucking stupid.

>>6694931
>>6694937
Y'know those flipbooks where you just flip the pages very quickly to see a drawing "moving" (but is just a series of individual drawings flickering fast before your very eyes)? How fast they go through the pages can be thought of as "flips per second" (or FPS). So if they flip just a page per second, which is fucking slow, that's 1 FPS. They flip twice as fast, that makes it 2 FPS, or flipping two pages per second, or a page every half second; 4 FPS, four pages per second, or a page every quarter second; 15 FPS, there are 15 pages being flipped in a second.
Know that the pages don't have to look different; for example, they can all be blank pages, but even in flipping through 15 of those blank pages, it's still 15 FPS. Or 15 pages of what I assume your picrel to be a trash waifu, it's still 15 FPS even if all of them look equally as trash.
Now in the general world of animation, replace "flips" with "frames" and you get "frames per second." (Albeit in a slightly different context since a page is itself a frame, i.e. you look at 15 pages per second, but the core idea remains the same)

>>6694937
In one second, you are shown 15 images in a sequence. Look at your hand, move it in a big arc in one second. If you captured 15 photos of that arc in sequence, playing those frames back at 15fps would show you all those images sequentially in one second. If you capture 60 images and play it back at 60fps, you see 60 images in that second. And it would be noticable how much smoother it is, there are less "jumps" in motion between each frame.

Anyone else feel a huge variation in your drawing capabilities from one day to the other? Some days I feel like I'm able to just sketch whatever idea I had within a reasonable time, but other days I can sit there for hours, noodling on a bunch of different sketches with all of them looking absolutely atrocious.

I feel like I need a very clear idea of what I want to draw in order to do anything decent. How vivid of an idea do you have beforehand when drawing? If I sit down to "just draw" it seldom turns out any good. Kinda sucks, as this is the case for both casual sketching as well as more elaborate pieces.

>>6695134
>Anyone else feel a huge variation in your drawing capabilities from one day to the other?
same
my guess is that its affected by how well you slept and how much sugar/coffee/tea you consumed that day
gonna test food effects further, but fixing your sleep schedule helped me a ton

Please recommend me some drawing prompt generator.
I used Tower Girls for a while and I still like it, but I don't like that some of the girls are coomer bait.
Prompt generators I find online generate bland ideas like "a portrait of a person you admire" or "a fountain in the evening".

Please suggest a prompt generator that's interesting, but family-friendly.

>>6695723
you literally have access to the most advanced prompt generator that has been developed for millions of years and you are using RIGHT NOW and it's inside your skull..

draw a mushroom farmer, in a mushroom village
draw a diagram of his mushroom brain
draw a monster trampling his mushroom crops

>>6695744
better yet, draw something you're actually interested in.
it doesn't matter how boring you are, i know you have at least one interest. doesn't matter if its vidya or cooming or whatever, if you draw something you like you will never run out of ideas or motivation

>>6695744
>>6695754
That much is obvious, but I need it for a group of artist friends. A random prompt seems to be more impartial than my personal suggestions and doesn't feel like I'm imposing my interests onto the group. Thanks for the reply anyway.

>>6695786
oh kek, my bad for assuming
maybe you could all come up with some ideas and randomly choose one

How can I improve the colors of this image, it kind of looks like a mess and the main figure is lost in the background, any source, book or whatever you would recommend to learn?

>>6696130
The problems and messiness comes from the values. If you look at the drawing in greyscale (like the top left OG pic) you can see how flat it looks. Spider-Man is no brighter or darker than the distant background.

So the way to fix this problem would be to adjust the brightness/darkness somewhere in the image. The left is your pic in greyscale, the middle pic is same thing but I just made the lower half of the city background darker, and the final one I also added a black outline around Spider-Man.

>>6696189
Holly shit!! Thankss!!! That was a great explanation!! When I finish the piece I will post it here!

Anyone have a one by one process tutorial of constructing the human body
I can‘t even do the upper body properly let alone add limbs

>>6695723
Use chatGPT. Ask it for a list of drawing ideas, scene ideas, character ideas, etc. You can ask it to make prompts centering around certain topics or including certain details as well.

Example: "give me 15 unique and interesting ideas for alien characters. Give a short but vague description of each character's personality and fashion."

>>6686173
i thought that the pic is about art and was going to say that its stupid but turned out its unrelated to the board theme, why did you post it

>>6687495
"style" is just a collection of ingrained mistakes that are passed off as personality. Draw for long enough and you will have your own

>>6696472
I tried that, but for some reason it responded with the usual line "as an AI, I cannot create offensive content".
My prompt wasn't offensive at all, no idea what's up with that. Might try again later.

is it possible to simulate real paint color mixing in digital? so I can practice painting like that without having to use materials or worry about cleanning up

>>6696663
I don't have a comprehensive answer for you, but here's a video you might find interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qa5iWdfNKg

It explains the way digital color mixing works, how it's different from real paint mixing, and how the real thing can be approximated digitally.

Look up "digital watercolor", "digital oil painting" or similar medium-specific queries.

I can’t seem to remember proportions correctly even a year later and have to constantly look at refs for it. Particularly with the head construction, and where to drop the side line/how big the circle should be/where to drop the jaw from. I end up mix and matching various techniques ie; dropping the jawline at the edge of the ball rather than the middle and building from there. For whatever reason that works.

In less words, how do I commit proportion fundies to memory easier?

Also, some of my forms are fine, whilst others look 2.5d. For instance, I can’t seem to feel the form on spheres or cylinders, but can do boxes just fine. The problem gets even worse when I try lineart.

>>6697093
I learned my proportions by doing figure drawing every single day, for years and years. Even now, my sense of proportion is improving. If you're not doing figure drawing every day, I recommend it. You're not gonna improve that much just by drawing from imagination

>>6696663
Rebelle has real color mixing and Clip Studio Paint's 2.0 version has a blending mode that can do it too

>>6686173
Which render looks better and why?

>>6697337
left, right loses the value changes and gets muddled. look at the thumbnail

Anybody knows how to get this effect of everything having a faint glow?

>>6697564
everything? duplicate the layer, gausian blur, set layer to softlight, tweak.
that pic looks a bit like they used a soft brush and use color dodge

Who painted this?

>>6698089
Fun fact: the illustrator was friends with SNL comedian Kevin Nealon and had him model for Jaffar.

>>6698107
So who's the fucking illustrator?

>>6698107
even funner fact Kevin Nealon is a surprisingly good caricature artist

>>6698155

>>6686173
What's the secret to this? guy just lists the art under PVA resin glue + alcohol inks/watercolor. It has to be water-soluble for watercolor, probably anti-yellowing for archiving. Anyone got a clue?

>>6694259
study light's behavior itself desu

>>6698170
No wonder old games were so good. Everyone on the dev team are talented as fuck and extremely hard workers.

>>6686173
I don’t understand why people get commissions? Why? What can you di with a single picture?

>>6698761
>They want personalized art to gift to someone or to themselves
>They want art of their OC that they can or can't draw themselves
>They want to see specific fanart of their favorite characters
>They enjoy the artist's work and have the disposable income to pay for and support the artist
These or any combination of them.

>>6698812
Forgot to add that there's a sense of satisfaction for receiving artwork that you've asked an artist to recreate in great detail. Custom tailored to you. You get a shoutout from the artist for commissioning them if you wish, you might even get your OC some exposure if the artist is popular.
That's besides the practical reasons of the design actually being used for things like banners, icons, thumbnails for videos, dnd campaigns etc. There's an innumerable amount of reasons why people commission art that can be specific.

>>6698170
It's probably false.

>>6698170
That's literally not what the box art shows nigger.

>>6698761
>Have a favorite artist
>Want to see their take on your favorite subject
It's not rocket science my dude. Do you even like art?

>>6698089
>>6698170
>>6698292
>>6699043
Robert Florczak painted it.

How do that style call's?

how to use construction to draw a foreshortened arm with decent anatomy

How the fuck are anime end cards chosen?
Like do you just get a random message on Pixiv?
>hey wanna draw an end card lol

I'm looking for an ambient occlusion/shading tutorial, I think it was a blog post by a Pixar Studios artist.

It's a digital art tutorial, and starts with a shading only layer, before applying a color layer on top.

it was posed on ic a couple of months ago, but I lost it.

>>6699842
https://theartcenter.blogspot.com/2010/03/sam-nielson-painting-process.html?m=1

>>6687319
the industry is always volatile, or at least the TV/Film part is.

you don't become a professional if you want a steady income. it has its ups and downs.

Ages ago someone posted a list of useful websites for references, and there was a site composed of just 3D models of different hair styles - anyone happen to know what site that was?

>>6700266
Is it this one?
https://www.rkgk.org/

Any tips on finding that perfect sketching brush on CSP/Procreate? Do I need to adjust the canvas and dpi to find what I'm looking for?

How should I arrange my art on my wall bros.
Does anything just not fit?

>>6700607
The most top part of the painting must not be on the same horizon line.

This is more of a technical issue but anyone using current CSP has managed to fix the shitty screen-tearing effect it gets whenever I open a file? I've got a decent gaming PC and I already enabled v-sync and other stuff on my monitor but the problem persists.

>>6686173
is there a compilation of painter colors turned into rgb values? like what's the rgb for ultramarine blue or cadmium red or whatever bob ross is saying in his videos.

>>6686173
A far shot but does anyone know or remember that 'how to draw hands' guide where they began with drawing flat and curving planes first rather than a cube or box?

Have you tried painting with your own blood?

Is there a site for anime episode stills similar to screenmusings? I could use sakugabooru but i'm looking for a good collection of screencaps specifically.

Does anyone have that one website that had a cube with vanishing points that demonstrated perspective? I remember you could rotate the cube and move the camera around and see how the VPs and horizon changed.

>>6702393
Is this it?
https://www.geogebra.org/m/FzXgKbKQ#material/rFDXKvd5

what are some excellent ratios and proportions to consider when drawing clothes?
I spend a fair amount of time grinding anatomy and perspective, drawing boxes and cylinders, but I forgot I also want to dress my characters and even though I have studied folds and wrinkles characters still look like shit
it's frustrating, all my anatomy knowledge goes to hell when I want to draw baggy clothes or an oversized jacket
there has to be like a trick to make it look good, not realistic, just good

How do I construct without being stiff and weird?

>>6702676
Line of action.

>>6702676
circles, ovals, and curves

>>6702676
construct better

>>6686173
Where can I find nsfw art commissions? I used to find stuff on /aco/ but those threads are gone now for some reason.

>>6702676
make it simple yet characteristic
every form has a long axis curve you integrate the gesture into the structure the human animal is made of interconnected parts you need to include both for it to ring true

am i weirdo if i like lavender towne's work

>>6702827
>for some reason
A faggot used to spam his commission sheet
As he got reported and evade, he generated too much report for mods to handle as a result mods nuked whole general
https://desuarchive.org/aco/search/subject/%2FACO%2F%20Commission%20thread%20/type/op/
You may look in dead threads, desuarchive saved some images
>>6686402
At other hand your opinion is stupid
/diy/ has sqtddtot
Why can't we have our own views and opinion? and have to follow majority?

My art sucks with ballpoint pen, but I enjoy the process of drawing with it. Should I stick with it, draw for fun and study with it?

>>6703192
why do you have insult people and claim their questions are stupid? Are you stupid. Don’t be stupid.

Why is the shadow here darker?

>>6704485
ambient occlusion

>>6704487
Why?

>>6704491
I don't know it's just something that happens when two things touch together

>>6704491
Ambient occlusion is only happening in the small area where the cube meets the ground plane. The shadow side of the cube is receiving bounce light from the ground and the top part of the shadow side is receiving more bounce light compared to the bottom part.
When trying to understand shadows it helps to keep in mind that all shadows are pure black unless the shadow planes are receiving some sort of light.

>>6704491
It's the area where the least amount of light can hit. The shadow being cast is stillbbeing hit by bounce lighting. Essentially the darker an area is, the less light is able to reach it. That area is where the least amount of light will hit in this scene.

Why is it that when I draw with a pencil, everything looks grainy and ugly, but when pros draw with it, the grain is not distracting despite being clearly present? If anything, the grain actually enhances their drawing.

>>6704503
Because their strokes are intentional and yours aren't.

>>6704503
They're probably using expensive as fuck tools.

>>6704504
What do I intend?

>>6704505
Incorrect.

>>6704512
Cope, you are poor and that's that.

>>6704513
There is no such thing called expensive graphite pencils anon.

What is the name of that girl that shades with carpenter pencil?

I have a round metal disk to stick to the back of my phone for a magnetic holder. I want to laser mark some round design/pattern onto it so it's not bland, but I don't have a clear idea of the design I want.
Where can I look for a collection of circular patterns that I can ether use or at least start from?

>>6704503
Are you drawing at the same scale as these artists? My guess is no.

Any artist or tutorials that focus on graphite?

Why doesn't anyone warn you that if you "make it" too hard, your peers will fucking resent you? It's lonely as shit.

>>6705377
Why would even care what others think at that point? U dont need validations anymore.

How important is the quality of my materials when learning to draw? I have some colored pencils, and a basic set of B and H regular pencils from Amazon.

>>6705390
The quality doesn't matter as much as the type does. For instance, graphite won't work on anything but very smooth paper. Also, realistic art in graphite would require pencils of at least 3 varying hardness. Coloured pencils are almost always trash unless you buy high quality ones.

>>6705395
Got it. Thank you.

>>6705380
Do you only use your friends for validation? I want to share ideas and talk about artsy shit and joke around. You know, like a sane human. I don't really have other hobbies to make friends from besides games but that community has different perceptions than people into art do. I thought making it would net me more friends but it drove away the ones I had. Now it's either sterile professional relationships or strangers pretending to like me just to ask for free art.

is it possible to get an industry job without having to post your art online?
i'm aware most people in the industry don't really post art due to nds and few arer actually popular online, but they still need to post online to get headhunted

>>6705806
I think you need to at least maintain an online portfolio to help prospective clients decide whether or not they want to offer you a job. You don't need to be constantly shilling yourself on social media unless you're freelancing.

>>6705806
At least make an Artstation or your own website with a gallery. It helps to have a link you can throw clients in an email or online correspondence.

>>6693051
mingu draws with more soul than your ai replaceable ass will ever have lmao

How do you make animations like these where it's a full illustration? Is this from hours in adobe after effects, or is it from separating everything into lots of layers like live2d?

>>6706149
this is after effects or spline 2d i think

>>6704516
I go through 1-2 of these every week. I guess they're not that expensive, but it adds up.

>>6686173
How do you do a background like this? Is like a collage or you need a special brush for this?

>>6706189
That's not a pencil. That's a luxury jewellery.

where to get procreate without shilling money to download it from the app store?

>>6705405
I can get where you're coming from with this. I made plenty of friends woth classmates in my art program, but I think my closest are still my two online art friends I made while I was a teenager. I have an easier/more fun time sharing my creative endeavors with them. I like my school friends plenty too, but it's definitely a different relationship you build when they approach you because they think your art is good

What is it called when the spot between a light and dark area is more saturated and why do some artists do it?

>>6706924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnxLy71xuPk

>>6706604
It's like every interaction is stilted when you're significantly better than the person. I used to get jealous as a /beg/ when I met someone who mogged me so I understand not everyone is going to like me. But I didn't expect not to be treated like a regular person at all anymore. Even people I consider my peers of similar level don't seem to relax around me. Only non-artists treat me normally but then being non-artists they don't have suggestions or opinions besides "that's cool/good." Everyone talks about making it, but there's a real dark side to it.

>>6706931
This is interesting, thank you!

>>6706945
desu, it's all insecurity. Meeting artists irl that don't get weird about artistic skill or creativity becomes easier as you continue on. The people who love art for what it is are the only ones still doing it after everyone else gave up. I'm just kidding I have no idea if what I said is true. I'm still in the stage where peers get weird but more and more are giving up and only the people who really love art are still doing it and it's just more chill.

>>6706947
yw :)

Does the time your able to draw in a sitting increase as you go or do people just sit down and grind for six hours? I feel like a lazy piece of shit for barely being able to bring myself to draw longer than an hour and a half.

>>6706961
I still get insecure sometimes but I don't let it prevent me from showing interest in an interesting person. I meet people who have been drawing longer than me but, no offense, they're clearly not where I'm at. Time and age doesn't make them any more chill in my experience. Except this one really old 45+ guy who I think was autistic but he was cool. Had nothing in common with him as a person though. Anyway I never cared about the money, and the copious likes/comments mean little to me so I barely post art. I want to make connections with people and I thought getting good would let me express myself better and meet more people, but I've never felt more distant from everyone. It's a paradox.

>>6707023
What's your favorite subject to draw or paint? I think it's quite hard to make friends through refining your passion unless they're equally as passionate, even more so with something like drawing or painting which is a more introverted activity than say, guitar playing.

>>6707038
Just human people, typically of action settings or situations. I like action cartoons and anime. Admittedly I had more success meeting people when I drew fanart. But fanart is a fleeting thing that I get bored of. I switch interests all the time so it's unreliable. And when you do fanart you end up with moochers constantly. Had some fan butter me up for months just to reveal they wanted me to draw their autistic requests for free. And they were leaking my private art on their gay little discord. But that's still the closest thing I've had to an art friend in years and that's just depressing.

Does anyone else here have low self-esteem? how do you deal with trying to improve while not having any confidence?

>>6707089
Get confident, stupid.

>>6707092
is it not worth trying to improve till I deal with my lack of confidence?

>>6706581
It's literally pennies cheaper compared to CSP and the like, and you only need to pay it once, just buy the damn thing. Or if you have an android tablet there's a knockoff procreate that's free called hipaint or something.

>>6707089
It's worth pushing through for the euphoric high of actually being able to draw the things you can't on the other side. It's really rough going though in the thick of it. Doing fundamentals and realizing you aren't as good as you are is painful, but also humbling in a way. Try to make time for even just 15 mins of practicing what you think you lack before you draw personal work, it not only takes the edge off starting from scratch, it adds up too as long as you're maintaining it. And if the streak breaks once in a while that's fine too, shit happens. But pick it back up again.

>>6707152
I've posted a lot of my art on /ic/ and I've received a large variety of opinions on the quality of my art. people called some of my work perma /beg/ quality and other pieces got called /int/ or even higher and I think the reason for this is just because of my lack of self-esteem. When I'm having fun and not caring my pieces come out okay but when I'm not feeling confident it just effects the quality of my work

I just feel like my ability to draw has more to do with my self-esteem than my actual ability to do the thing

>>6707163
That's any skill anon. If you're stressing about a task you can't enter the flow state. Try some exercises where you purposely try to make the shittiest art that you cab. You can't mess that up because if you mess up you're doing it right. It gets you into a more relaxed state of mind and primes you for flow.

>>6707097
It's cyclical. Improving will boost your confidence, which in turn will encourage you to improve.

>>6707163
Mm, well. In that case that's more of a thing you need to explore inwardly. Where that lack of confidence in your work is coming from. Are you criticizing your own work too much because you think you can do better? Unsatisfied with the outcome? Comparing yourself to other artists? Maybe you're not too happy with your current process? There's lots of factors that could be the reason for your grief. A lot of the time though it's usually you improving observationally but you haven't caught up skill wise. Try to ID the problem.

>>6707168
I think he should do shitty art but not shitty like low effort scribbles, but shitty as in high-effort ugly. That's one thing that helped me chill out as a beginner. Really ugly stuff like fatties with big noses or skeletal hags. Where it doesn't matter if they turn out looking deformed or bad, but you still made minimum effort with forms while drawing it

Can anyone explain why so many people seem to hate manual handheld sharpeners? I don't get it, why would anyone prefer those bulky electric ones. Is rotating your hand that hard?

>>6707272
The electric ones stop at an exact point where the pencil is perfectly sharpened without risk of overdoing it or breaking the lead. But I mean, its purpose is to sharpen lots of pencils quickly, like in a classroom or studio setting, or if you use multiple pencils for a piece. It's convenient to have at your desk. No one's saying the manual ones don't have a place especially when you're outside but the electric ones are useful too.

>>6707306
Forgot to mention older people or people with grip strength problems and don't have the dexterity to use the manual ones.

>>6686173
Are commissions worth paying for?

How do I select brushes in Krita like I do in CSP or PS? I'd like a little docker down on the right where my most used brushes can be found without having to go into any options.

How to sharpen pencil without breaking them?

>learn circles in perspective are ovals that hits the "centers" of the outline of the perspective box
>realize i can't draw ellipses
what do?

How do I learn how to render in krita?
from step 0, I mean. I am entirely lost. There are way too many brushes, I don't know how I should approach coloring, the times I have done it it looks like fucking shit (my IP range is banned from posting pictures, can't post it).
If anyone has a video going over the basic process, I'd thank you greatly.

>>6686915
Seems like you would benefit a lot from learning form and shapes in space. Maybe try Han's Dynamic Sketching or try Artwod beginner course on a free trial.

Could also run through a fundamentals course. TBChoi, Hue Tao, Artwod, Colosso stuff, Marc Brunet. Any of these fundies courses should be good.

I'm going to start commissions soon since my followers are interested and send me dms about it. I got the TOS down and prices but how do I go about the turnaround time? I typically finish a drawing within a couple of days, do I put the turnaround time information in the TOS as "Art will take around a maximum of one week to complete"?
Also how do I go about slots? Do I start working on two commissions at the same time or do I focus on one first then the other? I'm an absolute noob at this, sorry. If you have other advice for me I'd really appreciate it.

>>6706189
Some people just love to throw money away. Now I see why the world is full of scammers.

I wanna buy Clip Studio after using the pirated version for a year already
Should I do the 1 time payment or the yearly? I don't really get the 1 time since I can already pirate 2.0 and use it forever, I think being able to update would me more useful?

>>6706189
Is that the actual price, or is the Amazon algorithm fucked? Sometimes I see $20 stuff got for $500, I doubt anyone is actually paying that

>>6711617
what the fuck

>>6708806
I would start with going through the tutroials they have on using the program.

>>6699737
They’re all drawn by popular professional illustrators/mangaka so they probably just hire them normally.

>>6704503
Draw at the same scale, select paper type with intent, choose pencils or graphite that can produce the same amount of value as pieces like this.
How dark is your black and how bright is your paper in comparison? Contrast and values can make a lot of difference.

Genuine retard here. I genuinely do not know what I'm doing and any answer I get online seems to change depending on who gives it to me. I have been grinding fundamentals, that's simple enough. But terms get thrown around and I just get lost.
>Copy
>??
What is this? Trace? Study? Reference?
>Trace
>Trace over an image
I kind of understand this. But I don't understand the value in it. Some people have said it's good some say it's bad.
>Reference
>Look at an image, don't overlay it or trace it or parts of it broken up for your drawing. You're trying to look at it, process it, and draw it
I think this is correct but This too seems inconsistent. I've seen some people use this term when referring to essentially tracing, or using the reference as something to trace over during construction.
>Study
>??
I do not know what this is or how to do it. Is it referencing? Or is it tracing? Or is it copying? I understand it has an intent to internalize what the core aspects of your subject is, but how do you "study"? What actions do studying genuinely involve?

>>6712383
>Copy
I tend to think a copy as a drawing of an image that u do without tracing with accurate proportions and details to the image being copied
>Trace
Tracing is only good as your intentions. When you trace you are trying to understand elements of the drawing such as line art, shadows, details like muscles or clothing etc. Otherwise it will not help your growth.
>Reference
A reference drawing is basically a copy drawn in your own interpretation. Usually when something is referenced, it is used as basis for your drawing. The drawings look similar but not exact like a copy. Think of the sailor moon redraw meme, same pose and background but the character is interpreted differently.
>Study
A study is just a copy(or trace) of an image for your own practice and understanding. In particular its usually of things that you think you are weak at. Like lighting, folds, and forms. I like to think of it as a visual mock test.

Anyone use a clipon booklight for their sketchbook? Wondering whether there's any superior ones

>>6712543
Why can't you just use your room lighting?

can i rely on this?

>>6712765
No, I work in dim light and I want to be able to sketch while I sit around

is there a good art discord server where I could find cool stuff to paint and see inspiring images and also competitions?

How do I draw glass balls?
Anygood resources for this?

Hey! can someone explain the rendering techniques this artist used? specifically the shadow areas and how it transitions softly.

https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/16692066/illustrations

>>6713966
why are you gay?

>>6713966
consider asking in the cute boy thread as well:
>>6703598

>>6713966
This is how I would do it. Base colors on one layer, multiple shades (lighter shades for subtle forms, darker shades for crevices or within cast shadows) for the shadows on a multiply layer. The shading looks more stylized than trying to follow a light source so I decide where to place shadows based on what forms I want to add definition to. Use a soft eraser to soften some of the shadows, then use a blender to soften/blend out others. I'd use the soft eraser on shadows for narrow forms like the neck muscles or clothing wrinkles to retain clean edges, then a blender for wider/rounder forms like the pecs or other flatter muscles. Cast shadows keep their hard edges. I did a shitty job here but just try harder than I did lol

>>6714167
I really should've chosen a less gay image to use, but I really didn't care because I just needed an example, that's why I included the pixiv lol.

Ok I will try this, greatly appreciated ! Also I noticed the shadows of the hair have a gradient, are they using the same method to? Soft eraser and then going back in with a hard round and adding back in a darker core shadow for that stylized effect?

>>6714646
Yeah same thing with soft eraser. I didn't go back in with hard round after that, but experiment and see what works for you

>>6714648
Alright thanks a lot m8

What's purpose of this flat pencil?

I selected a layer in Krita and then selected the "Move a layer" tool. Then I hovered over the canvas and moved the cursor to pull the layer. When I did this Krita selected another layer on its own and started pulling it without without asking me, probably because I didn't directly hover over pixels of the layer that I had first selected. How do I stop this fucked up behavior? Krita should never switch between layers on its own.

>>6715078
settings>dockers>tool options

>>6686173
>sell prints at con
>some rando asks for me to sign it
>already signed it digitally tho
Why do people do this?
What’s the point?

>>6715161
signed works are worth more, he'll sell that on ebay once you are famous

>>6715162
Yeah, but I already put my signature on it when I printed them out.

>>6715166
well real signings are more like autographs, 1 of 1, unique, nothing else exactly like it, the person actually touched it. if someone is famous enough their autograph can make a piece of paper of paper worth thousands just from them signing it. a printed signing isn't special, a real signing is.

how do I channel my horniness into movitation to draw instead of masturbating? Willing to take suggestions

>>6715518
Edge yourself until you finish drawing something?

How do people use boxes to construct the figure without having it look terrible?

To people who started by traditionally creating art and later switched to digital, do you stil make traditional artwork? Is it part of your workflow?

>>6716051
I still do trad to plan out drawings sometimes. Also just for fun, graphite and paper are still the GOAT

What do you do when you get hard while drawing? When I look at references or start to FEEL THE FORM I feel like I'm fucking edging since I'm constanty hard-semi hard. I feel like if I go fap I'm gonna lose some of the inspiration I'm feeling at the moment but at one point I can't go on and I must masturbate.

Do you give in to the temptation or do you draw with that feeling?

>>6716288
The fuck are you drawing?? How about not drawing coom for a hot second?

>>6716293
Fully clothed women...in either regular or gothic lolita fashion...
The creases of the shirt. The subtle mounds in her clothes. The way the cloth contours the hips....I mean I thought it was normal to feel like that when drawing them.....

Need some help with CSP, new to it. I've done shadows and some other details in greyscale, how do I make them look normal on color layer?

>>6716327
forgot fucking pic

I thought Artstudio pro was subscription only is this legit?

>>6688768
Newgrounds. Easier to grow a cult following there.

>>6716383
They used to be one-time payment only before. Then they added the subscription model and still has the one-time payment option. Still pretty worth it though, like paying for CSP but not monthly.

Is there any difference between Dynamic Sketching by Peter Han and Charles Hu?

>>6686173
anyone have the screenshot of the ic anon who tried to "bait" critique by tracing a pic of a woman with a toilet and someone delivered with a good looking crit

>>6717270

>>6717270
>>6717388
Ah fuck my brain didn't realize it kept the top part as well, ignore my retardation

>>6717393
really appreciate it was looking for it hard. ty

How good are the Mattesi force books?

Is there/ will there be a market for serialized independent comic book releases?

I'm thinking something Scott Pilgrim scale.

I think his approach to comics (taking inspiration from manga sized releases while using his own unique style) should have caused a revolution in copy-cat western comic artists being published, but I never really saw any such thing.

Is this a viable path? Say I come up with a decent story arc and attempt to get it published and distributed? Could I potentially have my own independent thing going?

I know a lot of this stuff is done based on a sort of leap of faith, but I don't even know what the moving parts are to visualize what that leap would look like.

>>6715126
It was probably "Select Layer" shortcuts in "Canvas Input Settings" causing it since I had re-bound my move button to 'r', thanks

>>6717444
Webcomics are a thing to some extent.

My friend doesn't understand what's wrong with this picture
Can somebody do a shitty ms paint redline?

>>6717643
I'm not interested in "doing it for free." I'd like to finish a comic book and have it published.

>>6717998
Patreon is a thing. Otherwise, good luck trying to get paid.

is this correct or is it an oversimplification?

>>6718592
bit oversimplified, yeah but color is quite complicated so you kind of need to.
at their highest chroma, each hue has an intrinsic value. that chart doesn't really display it well. the munsell color model displays it well, there are more here:
https://sites.harding.edu/gclayton/Color/Assignments/P10_ConstHue.html

>>6718655
>https://sites.harding.edu/gclayton/Color/Assignments/P10_ConstHue.html
thanks

What is going on anatomically under Batman's pecs? To my knowledge, the pecs are pretty much right above the bottom of the sternum, but here it looks like Batman either has a really long ribcage or super small pecs. I see a similar thing in other super hero drawings. Are they just giving them really long sternums?

HOW TO DRAW VELVET CROWE????

>>6708806
you could post on catbox

Has twitter shit the bed algorithm wise?
I was getting 500-1k a week followers now I'm down to barely breaking 30

>>6718763
There is a lot of genetic variation of the chest muscles (especially the lower pecs), sternum and rib cage. On some people they attach much lower/higher, and they come in all shapes and sizes, so sometimes you can see a lot or not much of the sternum and lower ribs. So, you can get away with quite a lot.
Looks like that drawing in particular was inspired by bodybuilder poses. Especially some of the older, more barrel chested ones. With some idealization/exaggeration as well.

>>6718592
It's complete horsehit. Blue is way darker than red. Violet is lighter than blue.

>>6718763
No one cares about
>le ANATOMY
Just draw what looks cool.

My goals are character art (dynamic poses, detailing, lineart, facial expressions, multiple camera anglese, etc.) and then mechanical design as a secondary subject matter. Though my perspective and observational drawing abilities aren't that great, so I don't know which is more ideal between starting fixing those skills then do figure drawing after a while, or going straight to figure drawing and master copies.

how do i render like this

Redpill me on the Towergirls drawthread

>>6719167
>learn to draw
>hard round brush
>learn to differentiate shadow shapes
>you can now render like this.

How to vary face/head structure?

>>6717444
Artists like Bryan Lee O'Malley got started by doing shorter online works and comtributing to omnibuses before moving on to do Scott Pilgrim. It helped to get him an audience that was willing to pay to read his books. That's the thing that potential independent publishers will want. If you have a following, and you can show that they will buy it if they print it, then it will increase your chances of getting published. Otherwise, be prepared to (also) put down some cash of your own to cover costs.

>>6720181
>comtributing to omnibuses
What is that, and how do you get into one? Is that even still a viable starting path?

not really a question, but every time someone tells me that something I drew has good shapes or good shape design I just nod and smile because I still have no idea what it actually means

My coworkers invited me to a karaoke after work and I'm just butthurt because I won't be able to spend those 3-4 hours drawing anime women and will have to go drink and listen to a bunch of normieslop instead

Should I just shut up and go? Or should I be a giga autist and go back home to draw worthless scantily clad anime girls?

How can I enjoy drawing more?

I've gone through a few different sprints where I studied and practiced every single day, but I usually drop off and then have long stretches where I don't draw at all.

I think the reason for this is that I don't ever draw for fun / don't have it as a regular, enjoyable habit. It always kinda feels like work.

When I do try to draw for fun, I just get frustrated that I can't translate my ideas into decent looking designs.

Any advice for fixing this?

>>6686173
whats is the best resolution for digital pencil?

>>6689575
Yes, we will shame you on the Nigerian camel trading forum for weebs

>>6699196
damn, game corporations have always been afraid of being offending someone

>>6720211
If you know other like-minded artists, you can put one together with them. Everybody covers a portion of the publishing cost.

>>6686173
Why do I have an easier time doing line art and controlling my pen at lower resolutions? my pen feels so slippery at higher ones. it's nice to have better control, but all my art looks like gba pixel shit

Has clip studio added some new worthwhile features to ver. 2 and beyond that would make it worth upgrading? The one I've seen is the colour mixing but idk how good it is in practice.

>>6715551
Have you done it?

>buy a screen tablet
>screen lights up and projects desktop but drivers won't recognize it
>try nearly every trick in the book, nothing works
>try a different USB port in the MB
>works immediately

>>/ic/thread/6695297#p6695298
I just saw this reposted on Instagram with 55 thousand likes. I just barely remembered the thread and fished it out of the archives. How often does this happen? The thread didn't even get that much attention. I keep forgetting that all the genius artists unironically congregate here.

>>6686173
Do anons here want more /wcg (the water cooler general)? I was the OP of the last one, but I thought that someone else would make another, but nobody did, so I don't know if you anons want to continue that thread.

What is this coloring style called? I haven't checked out Krenz's classes yet so any links for those would help. But other than him, any other artist I could study this type of rendering from?

>>6725056
Forgot to put picrel

>>6718592
Thats partially not correct.
On the computer screen,
White has 100 brightness.
Yellow has brightness of 98.
Cyan, 91.
Green, 88.
Magenta, 60.
Red, 54.
Blue, 30.

Pigments have slightly different brightness, but you get the idea.
(Cyan is close to teal.)

>>6725056
>>6725058
holographic or iridescent
lots of studies and tutorails on twitter/pinterest about it

How the fuck do I fill in large areas with colored pencils?
Holding the pencils near the top doesn't get it too pigmented
Holding them near the tips gets too tiring way too quickly

>>6725058
You want https://twitter.com/_Yuming_Li

How do I rekindle my motivation to draw? It seems these days I don't have the same motivation that I had in the past. Maybe looking at other's art?

>my question was too stupid to get an answer

>>6724780
It's all true. /ic/ is the secret hideout for geniuses and savants alike who help catalyze the greatest ideas. Welcome, new blood.

New:
>>6725511
>>6725511
>>6725511

>>6714167
Hi I'm back again. Did you use a blur tool or a blend tool specifically, because they seem to behave different from each other?

I did a test, The top purple stroke is done with "blend" tool and the bottom done with "blur" tool. For the bottom, the softer edge was cleaned up with a hard eraser but the top was left alone. Unsure which is correct here

>>6712894
I have a similar palette for oil. See what you like and get a warm/cold version of red, green and yellow. Add to that a brown for mixing black, a white for highlights and maybe a light green for mixing skin colors.
I think as long as these conditions are fulfilled, go with whatever you like and test it out. Try to pay attention to how the colors mix, how fast they dry and how much pigment they have.
Have fun!

>>6725703
bump