/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6710173
okay redline it bucko
here's the torso before I increased the boob size
I also made other adjustments (head too small, arms wonky)

Shit didn't work out

>>6710271
neck is too long and shaped like a cone, torso is too small, hips are too wide, upper arm is too long, lower arm is significantly too long, one hip is larger than the other by twice the size, the breasteses don't accurately match up on the torso, head is too small and oddly shaped, I could go on.
I'm not redlining it because I'm not home, if you care that much drop it in the redline thread.
This isn't good and you know it isn't good, but with practice you could make it good. If you'd genuinely like to improve, there's a lot of help in the sticky as well as references, and tons of drawing guides online that sum up the same basic path.

How badly did i fuck this up?
I usually struggle with the hair and at least 1 eye.
Also not really sure about the head proportions.

>>6710323
Nice anon. It looks like she's missing the back of her head though

>>6710323
I think you did good! I like her face, did you use a reference? She has some wide-set eyes, and a short, compact jaw, but she looks like a pacific islander, so that may have been what you were going for. My only critique is that her septum seems a bit oddly shaped(I feel from that angle, you may be able to see just the faint outline of the other nostril), and she has a very long neck

>>6710334
Urgh, are you able to Redline that, i had the feel something in that area was off
>>6710337
Yea i used Ref, she had a more boxy looking chin but the wide set eyes are prob on me.
And yeah now that i take a closer look, the nose looks kinda wonky

Draw this mantis or it will chop your dick off in your sleep tonight

>>6710354
is that a big cookie in the sky

Anyone here suffers from depression? How do you motivate yourself to draw?

>>6710366
depression doesn't exist. It's all in your head. Listen to some happy music, eat some good food, and turn on the lights to their full brightness. Get out of bed. Exercise and draw. Your physical state is correlated to your mental state. You're a wimp. Don't be a wimp. Be strong.

>>6710344
>she had a more boxy looking chin but the wide set eyes are prob on me.
it's not necessarily a bad thing, people here act like there is one true perfect form to anatomy, but a lot of people IRL aren't anatomically perfect. That's what makes drawing them fun, you can play around a bit. There are some almost universally locked ratios and placement for the human body, but most things can be moved around just a touch and it's completely fine. For what the other anon said, yeah looking at it now I think her head is a bit flat in the back, but you can easily fix that by adding a bit more hair back there coming off of where her skull would be.

>>6710366
cut off all distractions, think of nothing but your art. the biggest issue I have is beginning to draw, but once pen touches paper, and I have some decent background music going, I get sucked in and lose track of all time around me

>>6710348

Trying to do the hand task from keys to drawing.

Have I made a little progress or does it just not look as shit because im using a pen brush instead of pencil?

>>6710377
>Have I made a little progress or does it just not look as shit because im using a pen brush instead of pencil?
If the left is before, you've genuinely made improvement on the right with understanding and representing the shapes of fingers.
The thumb is a bit wonky, and the fingers look short and stubby, but it's believably a hand

Noodle-reimu-anon here if anyone still remembers me
Bought a tablet and this is sort of the first thing that came out of it.

>>6710366
Sometimes when I don't feel like it or don't have time I just grab some other guy's lineart and color it. Usually it looks like shit but at least I did something that day

i need help getting back into drawing. i actually attended art college, but only like 2 out of 5 classes were actually about tecnicque and stuff, so during the pandemic i quit, and got a job in it.
i kept drawing at first, but my job sucked so much out of me that my creativity died, and i haven't gotten it back since. please help.

>>6710354
Soul

>>6710261
My picture is in the OP!!

Is that like the best of a bad thing or the representation of all that's bad?

Idk how to feel about this?

>>6710383
shoulders
flatness in the head and hair

>>6710383
Draw her showing boobs

>>6710383
Is this supposed to be a specific character or is it an OC? If it's original, it's an odd choice to have the eye color be the same as the hair color. Anyways, pretty ok.
>>6710439
OP'ed some beg threads (not this one) I just picked the most presentable. Don't know what the thought process of the OP was. Good work though.

>>6710366

>>6710445
Yeah I see the zero-effort shoulders and hair is something I've barely drawn before.

>>6710454
Never >///<

>>6710456
Kirisame Marisa from Touhou Project.
But without hat because I wanted to try drawing hair.

Drew a random zombie today.

>>6710323
See >>6710334
Otherwise, she's cute.

>>6710499
Those are great construction studies. I like the dude with the tusks.

I just got to the point in Loomis where he teaches us how to use the ball and plane method for constructing heads. I feel like I may be misunderstanding something though.

He says to drop the middle line down off the ball, then divide the middle line into four equal parts thats size if half of between the brow and the top of the ball. But would that just be splitting everything into quarters then? How far am I supposed to draw the line off the ball?

I'd like to make sure I'm doing it correctly before I dedicate my evening to practicing it.

>>6710511
The distances between the hairline, the brow, the nose, and the chin are roughly identical. If you are drawing a face from scratch, establish the distance between your hairline and your brow- then you will know how far the line drops off to give you the chin landmark.

In magicaldraw

Little more on this from yesterday

Not too confident with this one.

>>6710582
once again i forgot to remove the EXIF stuff; pardon me

>>6710524
I did a couple more with your advice, how do these look besides the creepy eyes?

>>6710597
at this point, you just don't have enough mileage to draw a head well. Mileage means the amount of time spent drawing. You are physically incapable of drawing a good head. The way to speed up your improvement, though, and to make up for a lack of mileage, is to lean to copy an image accurately. Accuracy makes up for everything, and makes construction and imagination drawing easy to learn.

Watch Krenz in this video, he explains everything needed to draw:
https://youtu.be/kbKqIJcIUCw

>>6710301
It looks lovely.

>>6710348

Sketch I decided to color

gonna be brutally honest here anons

>>6710271
shit

>>6710301
shit

>>6710323
shit with 2 grams of salt sprinkled on

>>6710354
shit

>>6710374
shit

>>6710377
shit with 10 grams of salt sprinkled on

>>6710383
shit with 50 gams of salt sprinkled on

>>6710460
shit

>>6710482
shit

>>6710499
good

>>6710511
shit

>>6710528
shit

>>6710546
shit with 80 grams of salt sprinkled on

>>6710597
shit

>>6710634
shit

>>6710638
shit

>>6710651
shit

>>6710651
shit

>>6710667
shit

>>6710673
shit

>>6710678
shit

>>6710724
shit

>>6710726
shit

>>6710747
Is more salt better or worse?

WIP Batman cover master study. Almost done with the penciling then moving on to inking.

>>6710747
pyw coward

>>6710747
Very constructive thanks

>>6710747
You were insightful and great help to everyone Anon! Thank you for all your effort!

>>6710747
Based.
These ones specifically are really bad
>>6710726
>>6710724
>>6710634

>>6710747

>>6710747
Post your work coward

gonna be also brutally honest here
>>6710747
Super shit

This drawing shit is distracting me from work

Sometimes I think about whether I should give myself permission to feel proud of anything I draw then I remember I haven’t even touched rendering yet

>>6710807
>This drawing shit is distracting me from work
gmi

>>6710810
>I haven’t even touched rendering yet
don't worry, it comes easily when you can do line drawing. Rendering is just getting the shapes of halftone and shadow to "wrap" around the form right. It's no different from drawing a candy cane and getting the spiral pattern on there. To learn rendering, just find photos and copy the shadows you see

is tracing a good way to learn how to draw ???

>>6710825
If ur super beginner yes. Begs + ints can still benefit from active tracing where u looking to draw a particular thing or copy a particular style.

>>6710820
draw some cocks draping over their faces now

How many hours per day do you guys draw? I tried to push for 6 hours per day but the most i can do is 3 and averaging at 2.

>>6710845
6 seems extremely unreasonable and you'd just burn out extremely fast unless you have the superior neurotype (autism)
id say 2 is perfectly fine.

>>6710661
>It looks lovely.
What specifically? I feel like I just fucked shit up and wasted my time.

>>6710845
Don't worry too much about length. Consistency is more important.

>>6710631
You may be correct, however, your post applies to literally anything drawn by a beginner, by definition of the word "beginner" being a person, who doesn't have mileage to draw X well. Advice to copy accurately is always a good one, but it's better to redline or say something more concrete about that anon's particular work.

>>6710747
>nodraw fag

>>6710510
>>6710747
thanks

>>6710851
>>6710845
If you don't draw 12-16 hours a day you won't make it in the next 5 years. If drawing isn't fun and you don't want to do it more like 2 hours a day and it seems like a chore or work for you then you're definitely not going to make it.

Clip studio paint is on sale for anyone considering to buy

>>6711068
isn't CSP a jewish trick that I should pirate?

>>6710261
Greetings. Don't know where I was going with this one, but general feedback is appreciated.

I just got into drawing people. Made this in a couple hours from a reference and freehand. Any advice?
I'll start studying gesture in a bit but I feel pretty confident already (I know copying isn't that hard)
:^ )

A shitpost character I’ve made up. I’m working on this reference/concept art sheet for art fight.

>>6710261
all right tear me to shreds

>>6711087
draw those hands and the face unless you want to turn into Brian. You're already better than him which is sad

>>6710845
30 minutes to an hour. I'm just trying to form the habit. The only people I know that do 6 and beyond are people that attend figure drawing classes or something.

>>6711129
Likewise, 30-60 minutes most days, rarely up to 2 hours or so.

>>6711123
who's Brian?

>>6711093
>shitpost character
is that why her skin is brown

>>6711117
cute simple drawing. you made the head too big, the placement of the hair is off(is the hair behind her or resting on the shoulders), the eyes are too close together, the placement of the glass on her ear is off( lower the ear or raise the glass up)

Mikudonna Litta

>>6711155
sovlerload

How do you “study” an artbook? Just copy the sketches and try to understand the forms enough to draw it on your own? I mean I love bridgman’s work but I’m too retarded to understand what he writes and just one limb has so much weird forms to remember

>>6711162

this took me at least 5 hours spread across 2 days. isn't that a bit slow?

also, should i get bigger paper?

>>6711203
5 hours? how? Did you erase alot?

>>6711212
i did, yes, every time i found that the angle is way off

>>6711212
>>6711232
>i did, yes, every time i found that the angle is way off

I wonder how many people here struggling with improving are doing this exact same thing... I know I am.

>>6711255
>>6711212
Constant erasing is almost synonymous with slow speed and most every beginner (especially on digital) does it at first.

If you find your speed specifically frustrating, you can isolate and focus on improving it. But otherwise it's just another thing that comes with practice, most beginners sweat their speed and think they're freakishly slow. It's just the same phenomenon as, like, a runner's forum: a beginner might be running a 16 minute mile and seeing posts like "I was running glacially slow - almost 9 minute miles...", etc, and come away thinking they're physically disabled.

>>6711084
The light and shadows are really difficult to pinpoint Anon I would suggest next time you try and decide on them before you start doing the details. Once you get that sorted you should get a big improvement.

I tried to make it a little better but it all turned messy as I removed the details to try and find clarity.

>>6711312
Thank you anon, will keep it in mind next time.

practicing figure drawing

is ti normal to scrap sketches for hours because it looks boring and stiff? I havent finished a drawing in a week.

>>6711386
That could mean several things.
Could be that you are just simply just not satisfied with your current ability and just automatically trash anything you do.
Could be that you simply just do not actually want to finish a drawing for some reason. Maybe afraid of all the work needed to finish it, or that the outcome will be shit and thus all of that would be a waste of effort. And thus you are just unwillingly sabotaging yourself.
Could be that you are just using sketching as "time waster excuse" to keep yourself away from other more important tasks that you know you should be doing but they are not urgent yet and you can afford to put off. So that you have the excuse that you are doing something useful in the form of sketching.

Nothing wrong with just sketching a lot btw, it is good practice in the long term

Ok, I've been really split between which course/ book I should start when it comes to figure drawing, I've heard good things about both but I can't really decide on which one I should go with.
There's Vilppu's drawing manual video + book or Michel Hampton's analytical figure drawing + MH Figure drawing: Design and invention.
There's a good chance that I might do the other one in the future, but for now I just need someone to point at either one of them and go "just do that one"

>>6711421
I personally found Vilppu easier to comprehend than Hampton, who seems to assume you already grasp half the things his book teaches by the time you get to them.

>>6711084
I like the glow effect on the weapon thing, that looks cool, but I think the lighting on the cheeks makes them look like a trumpet player. I'd say the values overall make the image look flat.

this is my aim, however are these good sprites?
i want to capture it's essence

>>6711447
Ok, guess I'll be doing Vilppu then.
Thanks for the help anon

Im mostly concerned about the proportions in the last panel, but any criticism is appreciated

Something looks so off
Also how the fuck do I draw pretty boy anime hair when I remove the sketch layer it looks bad.

>>6711162
Idk, that’s more or less what I do. I take some notes in the margins too.

>>6711486
>game so mid it doesn't even get a mention in the videos talking shit about 4 or the zoomer reboot
of course it's off. Also that ear looks way too far to the right.

>>6711494
Is it off because the game shit or is it just the ear.

>>6710261
Posting here cuz I don't want to start my own thread.

How do I get into commissions?
I think it would be cool to be payed to take requests, but I also really really want to stay incognito

>>6711475
>>6711477
just quoting myself because I posted in the old thread

>>6711137
yes

Drew my favorite frame

>>6711529
Anon just start a thread on this topic, what’s the big deal?
You’re more likely to get responses on a separate thread

>>6711604
Great work. Love a drawing on non white paper. Need to do it more often.

>>6711660
Draw these guys with cocks already!

>>6711664
thank you anon. I love colored paper as well.

>>6711660
fingers have too many segments

Hello beg. I cannot say i dont hate my todays shit. Dunno, maybe it wont look as bad in the document. And the white needs fixing. Killllll meee

>>6711604
thumbs up
>>6711529
first rule of capitalism: market yourself. if you want to sell anything the potential buyers need to know you exist.
>>6711513
that drapery is awkward. successful drapery has healthy mix of hard and soft edges creating folds. yours has no hard edges
>>6711486
the head to body ratio seems sus. to succesfully draw haircut you need to feel the form of the groups of hair. some go around the skull, some go opposite direction. you have to carefully draw them without crossing the lines
>>6711386
PYW
>>6711232
pick up keys to drawing and enjoy the moment of enlightenment when you reach like page 4 where it tells you what restating is
>>6711208
when your drawing doesnt fit on the paper is i think solved in chapter 3
>>6711162
i copy it + read it + do assignments. dunno if it is ideal approach but so far it has been working out nicely
>>6711087
my advice is to not skip faces and hands. you dont learn how to draw difficult parts by skipping them
>>6711084
abs, things and various parts of background are hopelessly flat due to lack of lighting showing the form. otherwise it is cool tranny
>>6710845
3
>>6710825
no, tracing as complete beginner only inflates your ego which will make actual drawing even more painful (why is my shit so much worse than my traced shit???). pick keys to drawing
>>6710820
very nice thots
>>6710815
she looks like she eats crayons. cute loli
>>6710582
sharpen your pencil and do final contours before posting for more (You)s. or use pen. like this its too muddy
>>6710546
stiff. very weak feet and hands
>>6710482
SOUL
>>6710402
just draw
>>6710383
very nice anime thot
>>6710377
yeah it is miles better but like: why dont you advance in KtD? Dont redo the projects until they are perfect. There is even checklist at the end of each chapter which tells you IF you should redo any of them.

drawing without pen pressure feels weird now, but it helps me chicken scratch less though.
Also here's some morpho studies I did, be sure to draw something fun in between your grinding so you don't feel burn out!

Spent some time with Michael Hampton today.

Her

>>6711550
it just takes a while to get used to it

>>6710261
I have no idea how to do this angle
Help.
Please give me a red line

Next page of Morpho.

>>6711835
You're turning everything to face the camera. Try drawing a throughline along both spines and follow that. Both pelvises are turned toward the viewer too much.

>>6710673
Nice

>>6711854
But are you understanding the forms? Try to rotate the forms. It helps develop your spatial understanding of the form which is ultimately the goal of these simplified forms.

>>6711856
I could really use a red line.
I have no idea how to make that shit better

>>6711900
not him, but i'm also copying from morpho
i have to what? i understand what you’re saying but it’s like this post just turned a few cogs in my brain.

>do an exercise
>see someone else execute it better
it’s not fair

>>6711973
don't just copy the drawings but attempt to recreate them from multiple angles
these aren't bargue plates. the intention isn't to perfectly recreate the drawings. they're there to aid your understanding of the geometric construction so that you can more easily put them together on your own

>>6711982
compare yourself to your previous self, not to other people

>>6710323
oof, no fucking skull bro
>>6711155
amazing
>>6711766
awesome
>>6711811
different plane, different value

>>6711720
>no, tracing as complete beginner only inflates your ego which will make actual drawing even more painful

Not the guy you replied to but does copying from an image have the same effect? I can get ok results from it which I like but don't know if its helping me or not

from a Barks sketch.

From another rare Carl Barks sketch, this time I drew Scrooge too large.

>>6712137

>>6712132
it's helping if you're doing whole pieces or individual parts that will come in handy.

>>6710499
Awesome studies!
I would suggest to use a flat color tho,
The opacity sometimes makes your work a bit muddy. Also it helps improving even more your shape design

anyone has a book/resource compiling constructional step-by-step tutorials for everything anatomy? I need cheat sheets and stuff like this https://www.wacom.com/en-us/discover/draw/how-to-draw-a-nose

for everything hands, arms, feet, legs, whatnot
thx

>>6712026
thanx for the feedback

>>6711689
I honestly don't know how to draw genitalia. Is that a problem

^
Will I ever need to draw the sexual bits of people? Is that something I should learn?

>>6712177
>Will I ever need to draw the sexual bits of people?
do you plan on becoming a pathetic subhuman coom drawer?
if not then no you probably won't need to learn it

>>6711982
people often don't post their failures online

>>6712181
Thanks for letting me know. I won't waste my time on it then.

>>6712177
Genitalia are part of the human body, you can avoid drawing them if you want but what you should do is grow the fuck up.

>>6711689
simmer down, little sister.

What even is the purpose of the loomis head method when literally no artist uses it? Is it just so you learn proper proportion? If I watch a livestream of an artist he just draws a rough circle with a few guidelines and then starts drawing the features, yet the same artist teaches the loomis method

>>6712219
almost like they've done it so much they don't need to draw the guidelines anymore because they can just visualize them

i took a month(?) break from drawing and now i am back to grinding the fundies, hope i can at least draw 2 hour per day from now on

>>6712253
what is that lilittle window app called?

>>6712310
timerchan

How far are you supposed to be in terms of skills when you start a book like vilppus drawing manual, and when you do it, how often/long should you do the exercises in there? I am a person that thinks that he got the purpose and meaning of something, when in reality I just want to get to the next part of the book because I'm bored.

I posted some truly horrifying /beg/ shit here over the last 2 months, unironically being proud of what I have created. And looking back at my work I cringe at what I have drawn, how could I think what I posted was ok to post? I think I lack discipline and need to slow down, but I don't know how to. I rush literally everything.

>>6712396

I cant speak for the book shit but my man you can be proud of things you do while still realising that you need to improve on it.

If you're posting your work you're already doing better than most of the cunts here too scared to do it, who gives a fuck if its bad? Its gonna be, its still "ok to post".

Obviously you'll cringe at your old work but don't just look at it thinking "this is me, I'm shit", think "that WAS me, I'm gonna do it fucking better this time by doing xyz" and if you dont know what xyz is you post it and take some shit from people who know better than you and might give you some good advice.

today's studies

>>6712396
>How far are you supposed to be in terms of skills when you start a book like vilppus drawing manual, and when you do it, how often/long should you do the exercises in there?
Bottom left is a Vilppu study, it took me about 10-15 minutes to get the entire body down. To me, you should try to copy as much as his book as possible if you can, you'll understand more and more what he's trying to say if you keep copying his excersises, well that's what helped me, I'm not sure what you're learning process is but
TL;DR I learnt from him by copying/studying his work.

Also if you're cringing at what you drawn before, that just means you're improving hopefully! Drawing takes a lot of time to train, it's like training your body.

Probably dickered the perspective, but critique me

>>6712500
kinda busy
atmospheric perspective usually works best in these kinds of pieces

testing out some new brushes. kind of steve buscemi looking guy from imagination

>>6710261
Hi /beg/! first time posting my work.
I drew Sunny Milk from Touhou. How can i improve it or is it beyond salvation now? what did i do wrong?

I had a pretty busy day today and yesterday, i tried doing some more Loomis in between other practices, I see a significant improvement but it still needs work.

any critique on this before i line?

>>6712621
yes give her a plushie

>>6712679
:)

>>6712712
gj now develop taste and stop playing creepypasta games for 16 year old weaboos

>>6712551
it's honestly hard to see in the picture, you should have more confidence and make darker lines, or take a picture in a brighter area

months ago with a 50$ screenless tablet and today with a 500$ screen tablet

I want to kym

>>6712712
cute good job anon

qustion: I'm using a screentablet and my lines are quite wobbly, should I use stabilization or will that be a crutch? What do most good digital artists use?

Hello beg, final boss character just dropped.

>>6712712
cute loli
>>6712551
the only stuff i can crab is the drapery and her hand seems broken. other than that its good. welcome to the /beg!
>>6712500
that is very nice. if i were to nitpick you i would point out inconsistent shading of the tree trunks. check out how real life forest looks like on photos and notice how cast shades from the leaves imply the round forms of trunks and you can still easily tell from which side the sun is shining. on yours it is unclear
>>6712396
my opinion is that you need to be able to accurately draw what you see + some basic perspective before engaging in the INT books. Hard to judge if you are there if you dont PYW
>>6712219
i think that construction is the missing link between drawing from observation and drawing from imagination. The pro artists dont use it because they either have reference OR they drew so much they no longer need the training wheels
>>6712177
>he doesnt want to draw booba
what is wrong with you? feeling the form of booba is the greatest art feeling ever
>>6712159
sounds like you are looking for something like this?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61187735-anatomy-for-artists
>>6712138
disney will break your kneepads anon, stay vigilant!
>>6712132
no. copying pictures, drawing from reference or doing master studies (all three are basically the same thing) is literally how every single drawer in existence learned how to draw and if you read any beg book (like keys to drawing), you would know. In fact dont trust random crabs on /ic, pick up a book and get all the info straight from the source!
>>6711847
that octodog is very nice
>>6712736
just keep using the superior option and save the screen one for drawing when you are outside your art basement
>>6712739
the real stabilizer is your hand to eye coordination. it is normal to have super wobbly lines as beg. with time they will get less wobbly. practice with no stabilizer. you can turn it on for serious work

>>6712749
are you making an rpg or just playing alot of diablo?

I want to start learning how to draw but I feel lost. All guides talk about abstract things that I can't make any sense of.
Isn't there anything more concise about how to start?

Like, I don't know, perception of an apple on a table from different angles for example.
I just feel like I'd be more comfortable following something rather than "believe in yourself" advice.

>>6712806
>Draw every picture in "Bridgman's Complete Guide to Drawing From Life" and then do it again
>Learn perspective and maybe some color theory from books/ youtube (6 hours maximum, you dont need to master it)
Getting better at drawing is largely about purposefully correcting your mistakes and requires a keen eye that you must train on as much high quality visual media as possible, I recommend starting an aesthetics folder and saving every image you find outstandingly visually appealing and listing why as you do (you can find small parts of an image highly appealing too). If you do all of this you will probably have a good idea of where you want to go after. as much of a waste of time as it is, there are a lot of small tips that you can pick up lurking around ic and other art circles if youre completely new

>>6712806
If you copy Bridgman like>>6712868
suggested, you will quit drawing in less than a month if you are just beginning.
I would suggest that you start with just drawing what you like, copy some pieces you enjoy looking at, to the best of your ability, and start learning drawing simple shapes (Cubes,Cylinder and Cones) in perspecive, until you get the hang of it. You need to make Drawing a habbit, so that you wont have to force yourself to actually do it, if you ever have the feeling you are forcing yourself to draw something specific, try to go with something else, at least in the beginning so you wont start hating it

>>6712873
drawing shapes is less boring than dynamic figures? obviously he will get bored before finishing and make goofy people at first but it will give a lot good figure practice which is what most people want to be good at drawing and will show improvement he can feel good about far faster than some drawabox shit like shapes in perspective

>>6712396
Some people say the drawing manual is an int book or whatever, but you can learn from it at any skill level. It starts with simple forms and introduces construction in a super beg-friendly way. The accompanying videos (you can find them in the video general) are worth watching as well.
You do need to spend time on the exercises, but they're things you repeat and integrate with larger works over time. The later chapters will be frustratingly difficult if you rush it.
tl;dr go for it now, Vilppu's the bomb

>>6712877
Most Ints struggle with understanding bridgman, at least make an actual useful suggestion for figure drawing like hampton. Also i didnt said do Drawabox, i just said learn simple shapes like everyone probably did at some point

>>6712883
You should always strive for the best, no reason to follow an inferior path because it looks easier, you will get used to whatever you do, easy or hard. Bridgman gave me a lot of confidence in my figures which made me want to draw more while when I was doing simpler studies with shapes i wanted to kill myself and didnt gain much from it

>>6712718
i am going to try using a 3B to make darker lines then, Thanks!
Should i post the drawing again once i am done? i don't want to post the same thing over and over again and annoy people
>>6712749
>the only stuff i can crab is the drapery and her hand seems broken. other than that its good. welcome to the /beg!
Thank you friend! do you know some resources on drapery that could help me?
as for the hand i don't know if i can fix it too much, i really suck at drawing hands.

>>6712868
>>6712873
>>6712877
>>6712883
>>6712914

It's just sometimes when I try to copy something I'm too harsh on myself for not being able to do it properly. And the more I try to draw things the more I understand how the shapes connect to each other and how perspectives work even if I can't replicate that yet. So even if aimlessly, as long I'm trying to draw something I feel like I'm improving. It's just hard to decide on *what* to draw, as dumb as it sounds, thats my main blocker.

But thanks for the suggestions, I will give a look on those resources and keep trying.

First full page in a while. I think I'm getting better with value and black/white, so I was thinking of going on to watercolors. What resources do you guys recommend for color introduction?

so i redrew this shit and came up with this. i like the composition and perspective much better though im having a hard time with deers legs that are tucked. is this looking better than my original?

>>6712967
and here's what i was originally working on

Slowly getting better at rendering and coloring but I still have a good long way to go.

>>6712772
Dude on he top looks kind of like an uncharacteristically chipper Nixon

>>6712958
Bro do gouache not watercolor , it’ll allow you to do washes as well as be opaque, so you could completely transition to painting if you want

I feel like I don't own my arm, it never does what I want to do. ):

I am easily getting frustrated when doing a gesture drawing....

>>6712806

>>6713180
not gesture, go study steve huston

russian minister of defence shoigu

>>6713284
/pol/ please go!

>>6713122
Was at your place 2 months ago, just keep drawing them and watch this video: then it just made "click" https://youtu.be/qKqpGhTrmJM

try drawing with your whole elbow in a continuous motion too.

>>6713122
MIND OVER MATTER AND FORCE YOURSELF TO DO IT

really dragged my feet on this one

>>6713325
Krenz? looks really good

are your vertical/diagonal lines good, my are beyond bad, my dexterity is so bad it's unreal

>>6712806
fun with pencil anything else is retarded nigger tier

>>6712806
Draw a sphere from multiple angles

See what you see
And see what you don't see
But don't draw what you don't see
Draw what you see
And then
Know
Why

Aum

Wield your pen
As you wield your sword
From the heart
And mixing short repetitive motions with long slow strokes until you have reached the climax of your project

>>6713415
draw what you don't want them to see, lie to them, trick them into seeing what they want

Hundreds of studies later and my heads still look wonky. What gives?

>>6713440
>Hundreds of studies later and my heads still look wonky.

i mean, sometimes you gotta draw milfs yknow what im saying

How do you do textures for leaves, hair and fabric with graphite?

>>6713440
have you been studying alien fish from the darkest corner of space or why are the eyes ao far apart

>>6713440
It seems to me that someone didn't feel the form now, did he?

>>6713451
Milf? This is what the average 16 year old american girl loooks like

I can't draw serious lookin stuff
idk why

>>6713526
I saw Sinix doing it so I thought it was fine.

>>6713550
nice texture on the vest anon

>>6713549
make way gotta shit NOOOOOWW

>>6713550
thanks for this kek

>>6713556
I can't accept this compliment. I literally grabbed this image off the first page of duck duck go to prove a point.

>>6713549
ooohh im shittin

I don't know how to use 4chan

Plss fix this
1)The anatomy (for a semirealistic artstyle)
2)Make the features a little bit masculine (cause it's supposed to be a male)
3)details in hair and eyes
4) the rest of the body.

Shading hard

>>6713584
Are you a girl

>>6713607
Nope
It's just that..
It's just that I didn't knew how to use 4chan

ok some more improvements, angled the top half to make the pose a tad more dynamic

does anything stick out as obviously wrong? i still need to make her boobs bigger and do the face

>>6713615
You just did, there is not much to it, there are different boards and on these boards people create threads, and in these threads you can post like you are doing right now, everything anonymous, but beware of the jannies, they might delete your posts or ban you, and they do it all for free, could you believe that?

do you guys think that in the future when everyone wears an advanced AR headset/glasses that everyone will wear filters and you will never know what they truly look like and everywhere you look you see anime avatars like sitting on a bus walking the street drinking coffee and stuff and when you meet and date you never take your avatar off not even when you have sex but then suddenly it malfunctions and the girl you've been dating is actually a 55 year old fat mexican woman

>>6713653
oh oopsie wrong thread

>>6713629
I want to fuck that fly

>>6713600
I'm not going to finish the drawing for you. I will tel you about making things more masculine. Generally the eyes and mouth are thinner vertically than females. I also made the nose and neck thicker, squared the jaw, and for good measure I trimmed his eyelashes and hair.

Then again, I almost never draw males so take that advice with salt.

>>6712933
>Should i post the drawing again once i am done? i don't want to post the same thing over and over again and annoy people
brother this is /beg/, if you repost the same drawing a hundred times with marginal improvements, I wouldn't mind. We're all here to get better

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE ME A BOOK ON HOW TO PAINT

>>6713787
no

I drew a coworker. how'd I do?

>>6713295
>try drawing with your whole elbow in a continuous motion too.
This is quite hard, even being a very basic requirement I'd imagine. I never did anything drawing-related before, and whenever I wrote or tried to draw I just moved my hand, so I'm not used to it.
In some ways, I feel like a baby learning how to walk

>>6713322
Yeah, this has been my approach, I stopped caring about being good or bad, and I'm just doing it otherwise, I will never learn anything.

Right now what I'm doing is trying to draw anything at least once a day, so I get to learn how to use my arm and get used to looking at PC screen instead of my hand as I'm using my sister's old drawing tablet for this.

>>6713795
The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world

>>6713795
looks great to me at least

>>6713795
soul but you need to improve

>>6713795
You did great, Rob.

>>6713795
Soul.

>>6713341
yeah, feel like i've learned a lot even going slowly like this

boobas

I wish I improved faster at this distillation thing

>>6713910
mein fuhrer…

>>6710261
https://youtu.be/lG2qr8nfb5o

>>6713922
The guy from the ref photo is some peak Nazikunst God lol >>6713215 but unfortunately I'm stuck as to whether I should be doing line drawing (which I get unsure of what to do with it) or painting (which I suck at)

Does anyone know of a decent procreate painting guide? I cant wrap my brain around this at all and I'd like to go for something more "painterly" as if using oil paints or watercolor maybe

It's over
This was copied from a yt vid btw I could never construct this myself

Doing some facial studies

stretched pulled

>>6713795
Looks like the fat guy from Toy Story 2 except with hair.

Not a furry

>>6714101
sure pal

>>6714136
Mmm... Nuggets

Crosspost from that cute boy study thread. I'm just recently getting back into drawing.

>>6714108
This is awesome but can you draw the effect of centrifugal force on his nuts

>>6714153
centripetal force

>>6714160
Doesn't matter to me as long as balls fly

>>6713948
These things take time, you can do it.

>>6713709
Thanks you sp much
This was exactly what I was looking for
Btw any tips to detail hair?(I am pretty bad at it)

wip

>>6714136
nigger....

>>6714181
Whiter than (you)

>>6714179
Look up alla prima , Much more free style

>>6714231
Loomis

>>6714231
here's the ref. I know there's a lot of problems, like the right (from our view) eye being lower than the left, the ear, the lips. I did a mix of eyeballing and using my pencil for measurements and two-dimensional relationships (e.g. where the inside of the right eye is horizontally compared to the outside right nostril). I'm mostly curious how I can work on drawing decent hair, but other advice is appreciated

>>6714231
Maybe you're unconciously trying to centralize her features when the view on the ref isn't really a perfect front view.

>>6714234
I appreciate the reply, so don't take this the wrong way, but doesn't Loomis pretty much just go over imaginative construction? I assume you're referring to "Drawing the Head and Hands". I'm interested in that, but this drawing was done just trying (to some extent) to practice drawing what I see. I should've specified that's what I'm interested in working on here
>>6714245
yeah maybe you're right. I even noticed the top of her right eye being higher than her left before I started to draw it. maybe I was just worried about making it too big, as I tend not to draw bigger than my photo references (though, including this one, my last couple portraits have been like that)

i wanna practice smooth lines, whats a good exercise for it?

>>6714298
Lesson one from draw a box or the first lecture from peter han’s dynamic sketching (you can find it on YouTube)
>>6714239
Give the eyes more of a 3d form, they look flat

>>6713180
Be honest, did you read of watch any guide on how to do gesture? If not then do that before getting frustrated
https://youtu.be/sSzB3ESpfE0
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXkHosWORUv66_H0YBErfIyIJkmBE71NR

You’re welcome

>>6713371
Keep drawing anon

>>6711847
reminds me of how Kurashiki draws the cacodemon

>>6713795
john romero

>>6714328
cute but small

nun sketch

how do I improve this

>>6714403
you dont ever listen to any advice, just fuck off from these threads already

>>6714403
Palm is almost as long as forearm

>>6713787
pick your poison i mean book

>>6714418
why recommend books that you know damn well you haven’t read

Another update on my Loomis journey, the heads are looking like heads now! I'm pretty happy about it, I would appreciate some advice on any perspective/proportion issues i have.

>>6714456
>>6714456
>>6714456
fresh thread

>>6714456

>>6713906
she cute

>>6714418
Thanks

>>6714199
Nta but what do you mean by alla prima? The oil technique or the book?

anon here again. the art in this board is looking pretty decent, but could use some crit

>>6711084
work on anatomy before learning to paint/color/shade. this will help your understanding of the simple building blocks that make up the human body easier. i recommend "Love Life Drawing", or "David Finch".

>>6711087
honestly, solid. my only critiques are the right forearm is too small and too short, and the right lower leg isnt foreshortened properly, and again, too big. also finish the fucking hands and face.

>>6711093
same as the last anon, "work on anatomy before learning to paint/color/shade. this will help your understanding of the simple building blocks that make up the human body easier. i recommend "Love Life Drawing", or "David Finch"."

>>6711117
nothing i can say. just keep drawing. (also look up on andrew loomis)

>>6711155
the sonic is decent, can't really crit cartoon style characters, my only real issue is the girls face. it seems like you've got the basic understnad of the circle the triangle method for the head structure, but you need to practice placing the facial features on the face, to a point hwere it looks good. for example, the mouth. i would (on a seperate page) practice a shit ton on mouths from the smae angle (or different angles) until you get it right. thats what i did and it helped me tremendously.

>>6711162
stop studying bridgeman, he's shit

>>6711203
thats very slow. just keep practicing. i recommend watching "Proko", "David Finch", "Marc Brunet", or "Love Life Drawing"..

>>6711469
start grinding anatomy/proportions ASAP. im telling you, you have potential i can see. you're just missing a final key to unlock that door.

>>6711513
practice proportions. the right forearm is way too small and out of perspective. the face isnt that good. you should study the loomis method, and study facial features seperatley on different pages. grind each on and combine them on a face and you'll see what im talking about.

Alright, I'm trying to move up to greyscale. However, it doesn't quite look like like the pros do it. What can I do to improve? How do I into greyscale to begin with?

I downloaded some bush pack because I was overwhelmed by the default brushes in Krita and wanted a smaller toolkit. Yeah sure there's some proportion issues with my drawings but I draw for fun. I want to add more depth detail to my art, but I'm not quite ready to make the jump to color yet. I've tried drawing in color, but I'm not really happy with the results for my skill level and time-per-peice, so my thinking is that greyscale is a happy medium.

If anyone has any tips for guides I've love to see them.

>>6711155
Can you make sonic's body a little smaller? His proportion is a little off, also this is soulful