/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

This is 1 second of the piece that is taking the longest for me to do. It’s probably 2 minutes long total.
https://files.catbox.moe/l0hybg.MOV

>>6682982
The background moves as well. It just isn’t in that version.
https://files.catbox.moe/600fsd.MOV

>>6682975
It's not bad, but it's funny that you can get similar results in a matter of seconds with AI.

>>6683028
True, artists should use ai if they don't want to be left behind

>>6683028
>>6683032
its value is derived in part from the fact that person handcrafted it. but you already know this.

>>6683028
brainlet comment

>digital
I sleep

>>6683028
>>6683032
This

>>6683051
No. It has no real value. It has as much value as an NFT. You delude yourself into thinking it has any value, but it's just a bunch of pixels. It's practically worthless.
>>6683058
>no argument
Sometimes I wonder why /ic/ gathers so many braindead posters.

>>6682975
>Post your longest work.
My entire life is artwork.

>>6683051
Bitch you know 99.99% of people are consoomers who don't give a shit about who made the art stop deluding yourself.

>>6683028
Not with good hands th

>>6683072
little bro just said music has no value because it's a bunch of notes

you're fucking retarded dude.

>>6683028
do it

i don't play this game but damn this is kinda cool

>>6683076
I don't see consoomers consooming much art at all. People who buy art want it created by a person (not AI) 99.999% of the time.

>>6683136
Ah, that explains why it's so cluttered.

>>6683072
It's valuable enough for magic the gathering to pay Dave for it you dumb fuck

>>6683136
Nerdshit

>>6683141
seethe, baby

>>6683140
You know what? You convinced me.

>>6683147
kek

>>6683147
For those of us that had hopes and dreams of making it,in the sense that we wanted to work for these big companies, that dream is now gone. Pay is not great and wokeness ruined most things.

>>6683028

talking out of your ass again AItard

>>6683063

If I buy you any painting/drawing app can you make something at this level in 6 weeks? :)

>>6683147
I've changed my mind

>>6682975
6 weeks for a piece that will be looked for 6 seconds tops, is a bit wasteful in my opinion.

>>6683199

go play with your ai dumbfuck

>>6683200
I'm just saying that 6 weeks is overkill.
Don' let AI live rent free in your brain.

>>6683076
the only “consooming” in art is porn

/ic/ the only hobby/skilled board that seem to attract dunning-krugers and no draws.

>>6683200
Meds now

>>6683141
> Nerdshit
You watch anime, that’s even worse

>>6683225
wrong, /sci/ still exists and they have a lot of dunning krugers albeit with more drawfags than /ic/ cue spaceflight porn threads

>>6683236
>nerd trying to cope by projecting

>>6683240
Calmdown weeb, you shitters get bullied more in the real world compared to nerds, dumbfuck

>>6683244
>seething at strawmen so hard he can’t type straight
oof
did a weeb steal your crush while you were busy playing nerd cards with the other fatsos or something?

>>6683247
> playing nerd cards with the other fatsos or something?
Ironic

>>6683244
Nah, fa/tg/uys are lower on the social ladder, and they know it, that’s why they seethe at weebs stealing their scene on twitch by being better looking.
https://imgur.com/a/SjcgE

>>6683253
I see no difference and one of them are seething >>6683247 right now

>>6683256
>I see no difference
…because those are fa/tg/uys?

>>6683266
They are playing yugi-oh, which is weeb shit too. There are pokemon card game players as well. Like i said, they are all the same in the end. Both weebs and nerds

>>6683273
You specifically said “watch anime”. TTG is not being a weeb, it’s being a fa/tg/uy. You’re coping.
Anime conventions have girls, anime clubs have girls, /tg/ gatherings are always fat sausage fests.

>>6683273
You specifically said “watch anime”. TCG is not being a weeb, it’s being a fa/tg/uy. You’re coping.
Anime conventions have girls, anime clubs have girls, /tg/ gatherings are always fat sausage fests.

>>6683278
> You specifically said “watch anime”
Ah so you’re one of them too. Considering the mental gymnastics you’re pulling. How else you think yugi-oh and pokemon are discovered you coping weeb?
> Anime conventions have girls, anime clubs have girls
Anon…

Literally mindbroken. Sad.

>>6683141
>he says on a website that has an entire board dedicated to fucking traditional games
I don't know if you're retarded or just a dumb fucking nigger

>>6683278
>>6683288

>>6683294
The site also has entire boards dedicated gay porn, being a tranny, dressing up in costumes, professional wrestling, MLP, summoning demons, etc etc
This might be a difficult concept for someone of your intellect, but not all these interests are equal, and neither are the people they attract, and sharing one does mean you share all of them.

>>6683208

6 weeks is normal. The guy probably juggling in between multiple projects. This is a paid client work so yeah there's probably multiple revision, back and forth between the AD. You would know this if you're in this line of work.

this was about 1 day/8 hours, i don't really have recent stuff that took me more than one session

>>6683393
>implying pajeets does anything besides scam calling
You can tell most of the ai shitters aren’t even code monkeys.

>>6683301
>weebnigger thinks him liking tranime shit makes him better than the average /tg/ retard
you're just the opposite side of the same fat, greasy foul smelling coin
now end yourself

>>6683426
I don’t watch anime, you fucking mongoloid, that is the fucking point. According to >>6683294 if you’re on /ic/, you must love anime and respect weebs be hurr durr /a/ exists.

I can't make myself work on a one piece for more than 3 hours, I always start rushing

>>6683136
BRO THIS IS SO FUCKING AMAZING
new art goal

>>6683393
They don't know, i can say with 100% confident that all AI niggers have never worked in the industry, not even in the commision market at all whenever they open their mouth with retarded shit like " Concept artists will be replaced first, with us idea chad", "Millions of artists are using AI", "You can get 5 gorillion dollar per minute with these AI generated art easily, please subscribe to my guide" , it's been two years now and AI shit has already peaked at personally trained AI model and control net, it can draw hands now, it is better than 80% of artists, but the only "succesfull" AI product that AI niggers can point to is obscure cash grab like that Hawken game, the Duke Nukem remastered game on an obscure rom console that you can only buy in europe, phone game slops, shitty ai generated hentai VNs #278, NFTs and AI prompters with imposter syndrome flaunting their gains prompting slops scraping from actual artists then get banned from all art platform. While in the reality, no legitimate company even dare to use it, cases of AI generated content trying to get copyrighted and legitimacy get told to fuck off, art websites constantly update their policy tightening up the regulation as each AI nigger having a melt down from imposter syndrome, the initial fear mongering died off long ago and everyone with an actual job as an artist knows that a photobashing machine that can't create new things, that can't be used in any commercial work and the slop that it creates can always be tracked down tracing from an artist's work, will never replace artists and AI niggers will never get a job as an idea "chad" because they are talentless lazy fuckers, and everyone just move on with their life, get back to work or continue grinding fundies while the AI niggers continue to scream at various art website begging for scraps of attention and validation.

>>6683423
This a personal project?

>>6683147
There’s nothing wrong with this image pajeet.

>>6683732
illustration for a book about drugs, chapter on MDMA
it's written by a very based philosopher in my cuntree but still unpublished because delays and delays

>>6683767
It’s looking good. You draw books? How’d you manage to find work?

>>6683072
>You delude yourself into thinking it has any value
Why are you even here then? Why waste your time breathing? Is oxygen the only thing you find valuable? Do we really want to go down that path?

Probably not my longest but has been sitting in my WIP folder forever.

>>6683907
What’s the story?

>>6683948
The overarching idea is that a few different super intelligent AI have been cut off from the rest of humanity and manifest themselves as different goddesses. After millions of years they have forgot their original purpose through degradation.

Basically it's sci-fi turned fantasy world where everything can be explained through tech and the little twist is that AI's are the souls of the world's inhabitants. I've been writing this story for awhile but I'm not a very good writer. It's taking forever.

>>6683907
Should scrap it and start again imo. I love the palette and themeing, but it's compositionally fucked.

>>6683253
>>6683256
image the smell and tears

>>6683076
> People are just consoomers!! They don’t care!!
This always has been go-to argument for AIbros since the day 1 despite it being so obviously wrong.
Nigga why do you think non-artists still show great amount of love and interest for artists of various skill level while yawning when presented with 100+ pack of “masterfully rendered” AI arts?
Why non-artists protest with artists about art websites being spammed with AI arts and companies that actually fired their art team to use AI instead if they “don’t care”?
People, in fact, do care. Unless you’re talking about “50yo facebook boomer” tier normies, who wasn’t “target audience” of artists even from the start.

>>6684075
Redline? Curious how it can be improved.

>>6684793
no him, but what exactly do you expect out of a redline, to redraw the entire image? he didn’t tell you proportions or perspective or anatomy is off , he said the composition is bad

>>6684793
Not any of those other anons. Did a quick crop because you basically already drew a pinup

>>6683136
Jim Lee X-Men cards did this in the 90s with a Danger Room scene

>>6683028
post it or it never happened

>>6683072
actual art has value, AI doesn't, precisely because AI pics can be made "in seconds" and "by anyone"
Zero value, you'll never monetize AI

>>6683141
>mocks nerds
Go back to the 70s and kill yourself

>>6684883

>>6684883
mad

>>6682975
>marvel shit yawn

reminder that anyone mocking Rapoza in this thread is doing so because they can't post a piece that took them 6 weeks or longer. That's it. Pure fox and grapes.

>but why would i spend 6 weeks to make somethign this baaad waaahh blah blah

grapes.

>>6684901
Not even Marvel related

>>6684888
>>6684889
Pick a football and touch grass

>>6684913
>nerd telling someone to get out of the house and play sports for making fun of nerds
I thought you dweebs were supposed to be smart

>>6683032
Be "left behind" or scamming by selling ai garbage?

>>6684926
The dumbest weeb is smarter than the most intelligent anti

>>6684940
that is not even what dweeb means

>>6683028
do it then, go spend a few seconds and post an ai generated piece similar to this. We're waiting.

>>6682975
The idea of spending 6 weeks on a piece, probably 3 hours a day is both intimidating and exciting but if you do this every 6 weeks then you'd have 3 pieces in 18 weeks. Not a bad idea.

>>6683578
ai idiots are the new cryptobros and their stupid monkey nfts

>>6683199
6 weeks for a piece that got him several thousand dollars

>>6683760
Ok han.

>>6682975
>(someone with talent) did this
Not impressed. Let's see someone who actually puts in effort and studies instead, rather than relying, crutching on what they're simply born with.

>>6684602
>Source: Twitter.

Bro, I can basically go on pixiv and find all the AI generated stuff and it has more likes than random crappy-looking rubbish, DLSite sells AI doujins and they sell fine, Patreon has a bunch of its top earners as AI artists, fanbox had to ban AI art because it was overtaking everything(and it's literally paid!).

This sort of stuff is very wishful thinking when you see what people are actually buying, paying money, engaging with, and actually putting their money where their mouth is, it's in quality art, lots of it AI.

>good art education
>rich supporting family
>good looking
Yeah

Oh ! The so inclusive compagnies that don't offer jobs and don't want to know you.

>>6685289
How many people have you seen that have knowingly purchased AI images? All cases I've seen have been botting and scams because you'd just generate your own image if you wanted a "free commission", it makes no sense to buy these unless you didn't know any better.

>>6685305
The average person that cracks open stable diffusion, and I've seen this way way too many times on /g/, has no creativity, no drive, and no actual ambition, just wants to create 1girl masterpiece and can't create something like pic related, I'm almost certain the first artist to actually use img2img to make something will sweep the world.

>>6685313
You didn't answer the question shitjeet.

>>6685298
Dave came from a rich family?

>>6682975
this spritesheet took me ~80 hours, hopefully something besides all the reference knowledge settles in my lazy bones

>>6685395
Coolio sprites

>>6683136
nice to see some artists still have soul even if it's wasted on that absolute pile of shit company

>>6685395
I fucking love pixel art. What’s it for?

this took a pretty long time

>>6685028
It's hard to see a weight lifter dude improve over time, as they got muscles for days, but many times the weightlifter has to improve on their posture and form as well as eat more protein if they wanna gain bigger muscles (unless they're taking roids). Been following this guy's work since 2010 and you can see how he's grown in 13+ years. Listening to interviews with him and those who many consider naturally gifted and they all say they were coasting in stagnation and needed to actually challenge themselves. Rapoza specifically went on a 1 year hiatus where he quit all his pro work and just studied back in 2017.Yeah stuff like pic related shows how skilled he was back then, but to reference his deviantart podcast interview, it was a cheating technique. Just do a bunch of portraits of sci fi/fantasy/super hero stuff ,throw a backlight and call it a day. His new stuff shows a lot of growth if you're aware of his past cheating habits

>>6685028

you think dave rapoza didn't put an insane amount of effort? I've listened to his story. All he does is draw and study and experiment. Dude love making art and work insanely hard and spend an incredible amount of hours to get to where he's at.

>>6682975
that guy is extremely good

i also love the work of crypt crawler, 100 % freehand btw

>>6685610
brad is good but his latest work feels mostly cosplay with filters?

>>6685613
im guessing thats what the client wants

idk

>>6685615
but its personal work, his comic?

>>6683423
I'm saving this for when stupid dumbasses say "artists shouldn't post in 4chan", "no good artist post in /ic/" I've seen a ton of amazing artists here.
No one cares, and no one should care that good artists lurk in 4chan. Crazy good artists like Dave and many others lurk and post in 4chan, it's fucking obvious, that kind of people don't mingle with FB, instagram, and youtube normie retarded lame bullshit.

>>6685618
bro i drew like that when i was 15. You have incredibly low standards. Dave does not come here lmao this isnt some edgy secret club

>>6685621
Here's another
>>6685592
>>6685607
>>6685608

they are all over the place, in threads you maybe never check. I don't know why is this retarded opinion that these boards are a shithole full of vomit. Crabs are a damn cancer in this board.

>>6685621
1st- Rapoza already stated that he posted in 4chan.
2nd- PYW or stfu

>>6685636
woah. that eel/snake dude pic rocks

>>6682975
>>6683028
Dave actually used AI and ze artwork was done in 6 days including photobashing AI creations into final painting.

>>6682975
>Foreverwip.mp4

This

>>6685621
>this isnt some edgy secret club
That’s what he said.

>>6685637
>Rapoza already stated that he posted in 4chan
i believe some form of validation is in order

dave raposa is a living master

>>6685373
I explained why you would buy any of these artworks or fund any of these guys, not everyone who opens stable diffusion knows how to make something that looks any good or unique at all.

also, you saying "it's all bots source: me" is not an argument

>>6686053
Still didn't answer my question shitjeet. Show me the actual customers that knew that what they were buying is AI generated.

>>6686106
Most of them since the American justice, indie artists and big companies expressed their opposition. The whole thing would be perfectly understandable for you if you were drawing. Loop there >>6683051

>>6687089
>cant show a single customer
I accept your concession shitjeet.

>>6687118
>I accept your concession shitjeet.
You're welcome retard

>>6685616
his liver is all fucked up from alcoholism and he isn't going to live all that long so he uses tons of photobashing and stuff to get stuff out as fast as possible while he's still alive

>>6682975

he's a god

>>6685613
He started photobashing at some point.

>>6685023
Okay? The average monthly income in the US is like $6000 - $6500. Making several thousand dollars for 6 weeks of work isn't that big of a deal.

>>6687241
>going to die
>instead of using the time you have left to pour yourself into your art, you go pseudo wagecuck, producing garbage to meet a deadline

>>6687498
>The average monthly income in the US is like $6000 - $6500
LOL

>>6687505
ummm sweatie, US is sam francisco and california, the rest of the states are just there to keep the dirty corn farming peasants where real people can’t see them

>>6687253
I dunno about that spider web though...

>>6687516
What about the east coast?

>>6687532
same thing, but for blacks instead of peasants

>>6687498
Lmao

bruh

>>6687498
Jesus Christ I am poor

>>6687498
Art job: 40k-90k
That being said, everything is fake in the us, even the job offers.

>>6687592
>>6687498
>gross
why do burgers do this, who are they trying to fool?

>>6682975
This would have looked so much better if painted traditionally. There's a somewhat disjointed quality to the piece that is probably due to resizing and painting at different zoom levels.

>>6687597
I applied for 40k-90k junior/mid offers that brugers couldn't assume, 'merica
>t. Eu boi

>>6687498
>The average monthly income in the US is like $6000 - $6500

>>6685713
This

>>6683028
That's because the overwhelmingly amount of "art" consumers, including yourself, and the wannabe artists online cannot tell the difference between a "souless" illustrator from a souless "illustrator". Mainly because it would imply the whole river of tears behind AI is practically their fault and their horrendously low standards.
>I can make a living creating embarrassingly generic and overly-homogenized work that's designed to appeal to thoughtless consumers!
>OH NO youcan't just replace "robots" with real robots!
And tasteless hacks like yourself will eat that slop up.
>not bad
Not bad, my fucking ass. Ultimately no shame really, nothing like a disgusting McGridle every once an awhile, but the fact that anti-AI nerds will cry, despite the fact that it's also their fault for having such low standards for art to begin with is what really makes my experience drawing all the more depressing.

>>6683184
>>6683200
Doesnt matter if it's low grade slop made by a dimwit wagie instead of some cheap robit; ITS STILL FASTFOOD GARBAGE

>>6689136
>Mainly because it would imply the whole river of tears behind AI is practically their fault and their horrendously low standards.
I think it's not about the consumers but I agree with that part. What about the fact ai can technically do whatever prompters want? I mean, what you described as souless is not ai style it's what the ai users want to do (or kill) with the tool. Why did they not insist with steven universe style?
My opinion is that only toontard, animemongo and furrytran are using this shit to goofingly lolz around naturalistic fantasy art. It just highlighted the superiority of a certain type of art that prompters couldn't reach by the process of art. It's actually sad.

>>6687498
Maybe if you work in tech or finance.

>>6685298
Your looks matter not if all you use is your art.
Otherwise you're like female artists who pose in front of their art and take 50% of the view...

>>6685387
wasn't he a street urchin? he almost went to jail right?

>>6683199
Ok rajesh

Anyone have a video of his process?

>>6691269
What fantasy world do you live in where famous western illustrators share their super secret techniques and settings?

>>6687530
It's cum.

>>6691269
He posts on YouTube.

>>6683032
>techdrone can't tell goods from luxuries

>>6682975
It's a bit trashy, exept for Gandalf his environment skills > living beings

>>6682975
>6 weeks

okay, but how much did they pay him is the real question here

>>6691938
post-conceptart.org reality

>>6682982
>>6682987
My dick. Animating some additional darker shadows would do well in this

>>6695362
Thanks man. Right now I'm working on a patreon to do this full time.
>>6694125
I'm curious too. He has 2 kids and a wife. So it must be sizable.

>>6683136
Unless you want another expensive hobby to get yourself into (it’s magic the gathering btw) then don’t. Also it’s super rare when they make good artworks in card art that aren’t limited to $15 packs that are only exclusively sold at your local card shop or if you’re really lucky you’ll find one at a target. Also a lot of the lord of the rings cards went “woke” in this set by race swapping a lot of characters but for some reason they didn’t raceswap the characters parents or anyone related to them