/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Draw when you have free time? Anyone with a job pretending they don't have an hour or two of free time is just lying and being lazy. I worked 10 hr days and overtime and still drew when i wasnt eating or sleeping. Stop watching youtube and 4chan

Sleep is cringe, go to bed at 2AM and show up late at work

>>6680278
Basically this. And no kids or other obligations, just the simple life.

>>6680294
no, basically this. >>6680276
and you should have kids and obligations. A simple life is not the same as a zero responsibility life of hedonism. A simple life is a farmer's life and if you think running a farm is easy then you're ignorant.

>>6680295
I have 2D daughters. My responsibility is to draw them. You can keep your real kids, tableguy.

>>6680274
I have a sketchbook so I doodle when I have time at work. Doesn't happen often because I'm usually busy.
When I get back home I grab my tablet and draw with breaks for food and other stuff.

>>6680274
Sticky notes at work.
I usually try to make time before bed for an hour or 2. It’s pretty hard some days though ngl, especially when you’re outtting in 10+ hour days of constant actual work and not just fucking around filling a seat

>>6680274
I being a sketchbook and draw simple forms while I'm there, since they're easier to do repetitively. It helps me focus better at work as well, so that's a plus.

>>6680296
cringe and teenagerpilled. tableguy is a nasty degen as well.

>>6680311
it’s nice to know I’m regaining my teenbro mindset

>>6680295
Thanks for you input based retard farmer drawfag.

>>6680295
>you WILL have kids and have to go through a divorce in your 40s because your wife throws a temper tantrum because of falling out of love or some other shit she saw on facebook and consequently lose half of all you have worked for your entire life plus your children because..... it's called being an adult, ok???

>>6680378
Some people aren’t meant for the traditional path. Perhaps in the next life.

>>6680274
no friends, wife or children

>>6680386
other people's children will pay for your retirement anyways

>>6680276
Yeah, can confirm, I work more hours than you and still have time for family, games, drawing, 4chan.

>>6680378
if the only response you have is a silly picture and a fake worse case scenario then you're just admitting you arent mature enough to handle that kind of responsibility. grow up

>>6680309
How do I become a sketchbook?

>>6680406

>>6680406
there's like 50% chance of that actually happening

>>6680418
I'm unironically like this, don't do anime, kids

I draw early in the morning/late at night since I usually work afternoons

I urge femanons who draw to go work in child care. Parents love nannies with cool skills. I work part time, practice my fundies with the older kid while baby naps. Plenty of snacks. I do mostly stuff I would normally do at home anyways (cook dinner, a bit of laundry).

I'm married with no kids of my own, so I've got plenty of free time to keep up with house chores and my art.

Only con is having to cosplay as a trad wife. I used to look like your typical tumblr hoe and toned it down a bit, but that would have been the case for a lot of jobs anyway

>>6680406
>ummmm uuuuh.... but how does it affect you PERSONALLY??

>>6680419
source: dude just trust me
>BUT DUH MARRIAGE STATS
divorce isnt something that "just happens". Build a relationship. Be responsible.

>>6680442
>>6680450
lol didnt even see u posted the marriage stat pic before i wrote that post. So fucking predictable. You're a lot dumber than you think bro.

>>6680442
So much for le based Russkie

>>6680450
>>6680451
You do know people often marry willingly in the west, right? Quite literally everyone has this mindset you describe starting out, you actual drooling retard.

>>6680450
>my life is the definitive
>shows stats
>la la la I can’t hear you happy marriage happy marriage

Anon…

>>6680450
ok dude marry and live your happy live and raise children and take credits and whatever else you normal people do, I'll be grinding art anyways

>>6680450
Facts don’t care about your feelings, dumbfuck

>>6680451
Why can't you just lurk? No one wants to hear your consultation.

Alway get a laugh at seeing polfags peddle divorce rape while tip toeing over the reality that the Number 1 cause for divorce to being with is husband cheated on their wives. These men aren't victims they're asshole getting their just desserts.

>>6680587
Look where you are. Did you stumble off Crystal Cafe and landed here by any chance? Go back.

>>6680461
>>6680465
>>6680466
>>6680474

hahaha you guys are furious over the idea that someone has a healthy relationship and work/life balance. Sorry to hear that highschool is that rough.

>>6680611
Nobody asked? Thread is about “how do you make time for drawing with a job” and (you) went off about your wife and children and how everyone needs to be like you.

>>6680604
get out of my incel hugbox reeeee

>>6680614
ironically yes

>>6680613
nobody FLIPPIN asked broooo just like frig off okay?!? *shows fangs*

>>6680618
>>6680617

>>6680274
I draw on notes during the morning and I use my sketchbook during my break.

>6680611
now you're just baiting

>>6680274
A few hours after work, nothing special, I draw for fun. I love it.
>>6680611
Whatever you do OP, don't fall for this trap. Tableguy might be married, have a kid, but take a good look at the legacy he's leaving behind. Do you really think his wife wakes up every morning, proud of what he does? She loathes him behind his back, not supporting him, quietly angry at what he does. Why didn't I marry someone normal she asks herself, why can't he be someone who doesn't draw freakish things, someone I can be proud of calling my husband?
His kid, is going to find his work later on in life and they're going to regret it. "You're tableguy's kid? That's your dad?" No way that kid makes it past high school before looking down the barrel of a gun and calling it quits. Why couldn't my dad draw nicer things? Why is he such a failure, boasting about his /ic/ meme fame like a badge of honor? One shot, one kill.
That's not a life you want for yourself. Get a job, earn a living with a trade, work your hours and then come home and draw for yourself. Draw what makes you happy.
Having a wife and child is not a magic drawing elixir. He's drawing out of desperation, craving acceptance from others outside of the people who pretend to love him. He's a failure as a father, a husband and a man.
Don't end up like tableguy. You can do better.

Tableguy if you're reading this, leave this site, these people are far less sane than you.

>>6681434
you first

>>6681434
Suddenly, tableguy isn't the hero you thought he was. The reality of things can be scary.

Drawing is my job

>>6680378
Gem

>>6681400
Post your work

>>6681442
>Reality
The reality is you're hopeless begs. Your only talent is shitposting lol

Anyone has one of those Android tablets? I've been thinking that it could be convenient to take with you to work and doodle on breaks and off time.

>>6681543
Every artist who draws on tablets says the same thing. "Android tablets are garbage for drawing. They are not designed for it. Either buy an iPad or don't bother".

>>6681546
Apple is trash. Bad software is a deal breaker. Fuckers that gonna force me to go online with some proprietary app just to transfer my files between devices and gonna scan and go through all my finds "to find csam think of the kids chud" are not getting any of my money

>>6681550
>finds
Things. I'm sure you get the idea. Plus I'm not a brownoid. Apple isn't for me.

Reduce the amount of time you spend on other things. If you pay attention to how you actually spend your free time, you'll notice that a lot of it ends up going to waste on mindless forum browsing or video watching.

>>6681535
Ooooh, did I strike a nerve? Sounds like I did.
>>6681537
That's no shitpost. That's a reality.

>>6680303
Noob.
I draw on the job.

>>6680378
>dont breed goym, die out, goym

I'm 57, I love my 3 kids, they love me too, I love my wife and I have a great life. Oh, I'm a Christian, too.
I can only imagine how you must hate me.

>>6680295
kids take up 100% of your time, at least when young, unless you neglect them

>>6680378
maybe you should have paid attention to her, then she would still be in love

>>6680274
Drawing IS my job playa

>>6681535
>>6681537
In fact, I just looked through his twitter account and honestly, there's nothing more I can say that life itself isn't already bearing down on him like the perfect storm. That is a miserable existence, having to hide things from your family, an angry wife scolding your late nights like a child and displaying your life trying to mimic Calvin and Hobbes. Now I know what NOT to do.
>>6681594
>that filename
Christians are the biggest liars on the planet. I can tell you from experience and by your art. You're split right down the middle between your love and your faith. You can only draw, what your organized religion will allow. You have to censor yourself for the sake of your kids and your wife. I'm sure other anons will agree, you can't hate what you've become. You can only pity it.
>>6681604
There you go, post old work to validate who you are.
Playa.

>>6681604
>he/him
kek

>>6680295
>and you should have kids
Nah, fuck that.

>>6681605
>>6681400
You spend wayyyyy too much time thinking about me, and writing blog posts about me. I’m not real. This isn’t how I am in real life. I spend some small portion of my day drawing and commiserating with you NPCs online, but I spend a majority of my time doing chores, hanging out with wife, playing with kid, seeing people in real life, shopping for food, cooking, etc. If tableguy were to get deleted tomorrow, that’s fine. He’s made up. I still get all my drawing gains from all these years. I can just draw something else. You over estimate how much I value my time with you, and what the success of my “brand” is. It’s just for fun.

I had officemates and direct reports who I saw everyday for 10 hours a day for 10 years. One day, I was just felt done with work, so I said farewell to them and have not spoken to any of them since. My point is, we should enjoy this time together now. One day I’ll disappear and never think of you ever again, but today it makes me sad to think of you sitting in here all alone waiting for me to come back like that futurama dog. I like this place a lot, but nobody is here forever.

>>6680274
I used to draw for 3-4 hours everyday afterwork. Make drawing your vice. Make it your guilty pleasure activity. The thing that you do to get away from your work. Something that you look forward to. Today I was excited about drawing because I was entertaining family all weekend and didn’t have free time. I had so much I wanted to draw bottled up inside. I finally finished my chores and sat down to draw. I drew for 12 minutes before kid woke up. Best 12 minutes of drawing all week. It felt glorious. That’s all I got. Time is very valuable. Use it wisely, one day you won’t have it.

>>6681550
>>6681552
Better draw traditionally then.

>>6680278
Don't do this bros. You will hate yourself for it. Trust me. I was living this life for 5 years and I regret not having disciplined myself

>>6681647
I already hate myself and my life.

>>6681550
Procreate isn’t on Lagdroid unfortunately because it’s the best mobile art app made. You shouldn’t even be saving images like that to your phone anyway. That’s like begging to go to prison.

>>6681755
to be honest the fact that they actively snitch peoples data is disgusting

>>6681766

A quick google search says Apple dropped their plans for scanning images.

>>6680295
>you should have kids

You can have responsibilities and not have kids. Especially when kids are going to go out for themselves someday and my fuckups are going to be repeated with them.

>>6680295
Hate kids. Hate women.
Simple as.

>>6680274
I draw AT my job. I work as a security guard at night and there often more than 6 hours of drawing time each shift.

>>6681811
Are you positioned at a gatehouse? I was offered a golf cart position after getting my license but I declined it. I tried applying to a gatehouse job in my area at random and was called up immediately to start working, didn’t take it though since I already have a job. Like, if I ever get laid off my security license is my fall back since it’s the perfect job for artists.

>>6681822
I heard gatehouse security stuff is sometimes more stressful than what I do. I usually guard a hospital and sometimes the city hall. I have to walk a few rounds each night but in-between there's nothing I have to do. So it's perfect for drawing, reading, or watching films. Very comfy job 99% of the time.

>>6681784
Just don't fuck up. It's that easy

>>6681840
>Just don't fuck up. It's that easy
"I'm not gonna repeat my parents' mistakes" is what every says and then create fucked up children.

>>6681827
I’ve heard during training that it’s stressful in the mornings (when people go to work) and 5PM rush hour. Overnight is where it’s at, supposedly. But yeah like you said, you still have to do a patrol for the report but it’s exercise I guess.

>>6681604
Shinda I haven't seen the hambeasts whinge about your artwork on r/mendrawingwomen lately. Tsk tsk.

>>6681853
It definitely depends. If you're working at a hospital or something larger like Amazon then you have to open the gate every few minutes even throughout the night.

>>6680274
I have two jobs from home (one is as an ilustrator for a videogame) and both are very low on workload. I draw most of the day and the weekends.

>>6681811
THIS. It's actually why i even started drawing. You have so much downtime in an office that it would be retarded to not use it to your advantage. Admittedly I'm far better at traditional as a result and my digital is somewhat lacking.

>>6681892
The thing with the office jobs is that anyone on this board is capable of moving up quickly into a position where they don’t have to do as much work, just look busy. I’ve mainly done call center stuff in the past and nobody wants to be on the phones forever trying to maintain a quota set by people who don’t have to deal with being on production, you want to be the guy scoring calls from the grunts or writing emails. If you take up a call center job and you’re still on the phones after 6 months with no promise of promotion you might as well quit and do something else and not waste your life away. Once you’re promoted you should never have to apply to an office job where you must speak to people over the phone.

>>6681616
>I used to draw for 3-4 hours everyday afterwork. Make drawing your vice. Make it your guilty pleasure activity. The thing that you do to get away from your work. Something that you look forward to. Today I was excited about drawing because I was entertaining family all weekend and didn’t have free time. I had so much I wanted to draw bottled up inside. I finally finished my chores and sat down to draw. I drew for 12 minutes before kid woke up. Best 12 minutes of drawing all week. It felt glorious. That’s all I got. Time is very valuable. Use it wisely, one day you won’t have it.
This is how you should have answered in the first place rather than come off as some bay area elitist >>6680295
See, that wasn't so hard. :)

>>6680274
I draw for 15 minutes in the morning at the office. Another 15 during the lunch break.

I have two part time jobs and they are very chill. Rarely do I have meetings and I can work whenever, as long as the work gets done. I draw all during this time, but I don't like to be "stuck" in my office. After work, I'll grab my tablet and draw in another room, chill, etc.
I live alone, no friends, only family. Only thing is that I really need to get out more and block out time to exercise

I'm an architect so in a way drawing is a good part of my job

>>6682112
>I'm an architect
pyw

>>6680274
I work 2/2/3 from home

I put in one-two hours a day most days I work on except I always pick a day when I'm just boozing because of tiredness. Also putting a bit extra time on my day off

dont be a wageslave
simple as

Drawing in work. But it wasn't enough, so i just became a neet.

>>6681400
>tldr rent free

I think adversity probably fuels creative content more than it inhibits. If table guys work is somehow lacking it's probably because his life is too comfortable, not the other way around.

>>6680295
>>6681594
Most capital posts on /ic/ right now. Bless you, anon

>>6681594
>I'm 57
lol no you're not

>>6681605
>You can only draw, what your organized religion will allow. You have to censor yourself for the sake of your kids and your wife. I'm sure other anons will agree
I'm another anon, not a Christian, and I disagree. Being still fascinated by cooming stuff (assuming that's what's implied here) past 30 is just so cringe.

You should get a wife, build a family, and start behaving like a responsible mature man instead of being satisfying of striking your dick to imaginary teddybearwomen like a degenerate retard.

I think Da Vinci used to say that the average's man life production was to fill latrines. We should add buckets of cum to the list to account for modern lifestyle.

>>6681605
Lol what a dumb fuck you are. :)
Internet theologists....

>>6687857

>only young disturbed kids browse 4chan

00's called, they want their stereotypes back.
Damn, I just realised 4chan will be 20yo in October. Damn...

>>6680274
>just fucking draw lol what's so hard about it

>>6688063
But...HOW???

>>6681594
>have kids without being financially secure and following your dreams to the fullest
only niggers do that

>>6687726
Adversity doesn't fuel creativity, it stifles it. As for this table guy, his life is his own choice. If he were really happy about it, he wouldn't be complaining about it through his work. Take a look at his wife drawings and you'll see how miserable he really is.
>>6687869
>You should get a wife.
You don't get a wife, she finds you when you're ready. And if that day never comes, then so be it. A wife in this day and age does not equal a triumph, nor does it represent normalcy. I'd hate to be married to someone like you.
>Build a family.
In this day and age, when schools have become gender indoctrination centers led by pronoun radicals hell bent on warping the minds of children? Surely you're aware of this, unless you're some left leaning elitist who lives in the world of make believe. No thanks.
>Start behaving like a responsible mature man instead of being satisfied striking your dick to imaginary teddy bear women like a degenerate retard.
Fixed your statement there for you, ESL. At least I'm mature enough to know the world around me, unlike your dumb ass.
>>6688060
You didn't say I was wrong or called me a liar. kek :)

>>6688128
>You don't get a wife, she finds you when you're ready
No. A well-balanced man chose a wife, one that isn't degenerate enough so as to be able to raise his kids, because he knows that's what union between a man and a woman is supposed to serve.

> A wife in this day and age does not equal a triumph, nor does it represent normalcy.
Not what I was implying. Simply that's it's a much, much better and more fulfilling goal than stroking one's crotch on a regular basis. Even animals have better standard: your subsistance has better standard.

> I'd hate to be married to someone like you.
Assuming you're a woman, I wouldn't consider you wife material as-is. You'd need to be tamed, like most woman today. I can pass on some amount of superficial flaws, but that kind of arrogant, irrational mindset... Not what I'd want my kids to emulate.

>In this day and age, when schools have become gender indoctrination centers led by pronoun radicals hell bent on warping the minds of children
Boo-oo, the world is unkind. Did you complained to teaacheeeer? Or did you man-up and find ways to use the situation to your advantage, like wise heroes of the past. Second strike on victim mindset btw.

> unless you're some left leaning elitist who lives in the world of make believe
When was the last time you saw a leftist making a double joke referring to both furry and immaturity of masturbation at once? Leftist might have asked wether pedobear was their mascot or something.

>t. I'm native English, hence I'm naturally superior
Okay bro, I really enjoy that fantastic intellectual rigor of yours. Teach me on syntax, I'll teach you on semantic, you lucky star.

> At least I'm mature enough to know the world around me unlike your dumb ass
It's like that guy who just ""threw"" about 20 arrows, none it the target, one's in his eye, still expect people to bow (!) to his wisdom and skills.

Alright. Now, go educate yourself, go read the classics, and let's talk again in a decade or so.

>>6680274
My work starts at 9, so I wake up at 4 to make room for it. I draw 3-4 hours every day that way.

>>6688147
>point 1
If you had a wife, you wouldn't talk like this. If you were loved, you wouldn't answer like this. Clearly, you have neither. Forever alone.
>point 2
Animals do have better standards. They know to steer clear of someone like you.
>point 3
You're not father material. There's nothing remotely appealing about you. You're the desperate option no one else wants.
>point 4
I told you how the world is, and how I caught you backstepping on your initial response. "n-not what I was implying, i swear." Typical child mindset.
>point 5
Incoherent ramblings. Nothing more.
>point 6
The butthurt is real.
>point 7
Well, I'm glad we have you as a shining example of manhood. You'll make some poor, desperate woman a great husband someday.
And remember, you crying back about these points will only further your incomprehensible, inaccurate, unintelligent view of the world. Go learn English. Or I can put you in your place in your native tongue. Your choice. ;)

>>6688147
>>6688169
Can you redditors stop arguing about thread unrelated crap already?

>>6688169
> Still irrational, still arrogant, still relying on low, dull personal attacks instead of spending some effort on the arguments
As Leonardo said, there are three kinds of people: those who see, those who see when they're shown, those who can't see.

So yeah, whatever you say anon.

>>6688128
>she finds you

LOL. Cuck.

>>6688064
Wdym how? What do you want to draw? People? Nature? Cars? Lesbians having Sex? Tell me anon, what do you want to draw?

>>6680274
My girlfriend and I live together, both work from home office-based jobs, and split chores (eg. I cook one day, she cooks the next). If it's quiet at work I can doodle shit or look for things I want to study, then jump straight into drawing right after work on days I'm not cooking.

We don't want kids, just pets, and most of our friends were made at uni and are also artists or make crafts and shit, so we talk/hang out over Discord voice chat and draw together some evenings whilst "socializing" at the same time.

Basically any time I'm not at work or doing some sort of chore I'm ether drawing shit or playing games with friends.

>>6680295
>you should have kids
"Should" eh? I know the trend with the online kiddies is to be le based trad and all, but I've never had the desire to have kids.
I have a theory that creative people often redirect the generative drive to have kids into other pursuits, which is why history is filled with childless authors, artists, philosophers, etc.
I do find some benefit in having a supportive gf (now wife for me) who shares the same goals. They're still out there, anons, just stop chasing bitches.

>>6688273
>which is why history is filled with childless authors, artists, philosophers, etc.
they did. but the kids died young due to lack of health care. they were married/divorced multiple times.

I haven't had a job in years and I have all the time in the world to draw, yet I don't.

>>6688248
Idk that's why I'm asking

>>6688279
>they did. but the kids died young due to lack of health care.
naw. William Blake, Edgar Allan Poe, Nietzsche, the list goes on ... you can say it was because they were schizos, incels, whatever, but history is filled with creative people who never had kids.

>>6688273
Me on the left
Gf on the right

>>6682130
I draw destroyed buildings and cities. I've been told it's a bit ironic considering my profession I guess.
I also draw a lot during my job itself but nothing worth posting honestly, it's mostly quick sketches, but being able to quickly sketch and have a good sense of perspective is very handy. A lot of my peers don't know how to draw and rely exclusively on 3D modelling.

>>6688574
I have seen your art before. You have been here for a while, haven't you. What do you seek from this place? There is nothing of value to be found here. Is it because you like broken things, architect anon?

>>6688574
giga based, i've always wanted to draw this stuff. how did you draw first pic? got a workflow? did you sketch it out manually or did you start with symm rulers?

>>6688504
Monet, Rubens, Dalí, the list also goes on. History is filled with those who never had kids. Without numbers it is an unclear correlation.

>>6688605
I don't think I post that much here considering I finish one of these like once per month at most (some times more), and I don't like to spam so at the end I rarely post my stuff around here.
>You have been here for a while, haven't you
I've been lurking for very long but it always felt like /ic/ is way more focused and interested in character and figure drawing than anything else. Which is perfectly fine, but as I don't do those things (and I've tried, but I always lose interest eventually) when I post it always feels a bit out of place lol. Even then, might sound corny, but there's always something to learn among other fellow artfags (I think). Maybe some day I'll get enough motivation to finally try figure drawing, who knows.
>Is it because you like broken things?
lmao, I guess.
>>6688624
Thanks a lot anon. I wouldn't know what to tell you. Been drawing most of my life with paper and pencil and not long ago I made the jump to digital, which has been fun so far. I don't think my workflow is anything out of this world, just draw a general idea, and if I like it I start adding detail, layer by layer, until it's done. IMO the most important things are having a good grasp of how perspective works, and if you can get shadows and reflections properly done you are golden. At the end it's a very mechanic process.

>>6688659
You'd get noticed in the manga and comic threads I'm sure.

>>6688684
For me these little conversations that spur every once in a while are enough but even then, I might give it a shot. I wouldn't mind finding a place with more anons interested in enviroment drawing, specially urban. Thanks for the interest.

>>6680378
literal bot response means even /ic/ is infected and controlled by feds

Bump

>>6688574
I FUCKING KNEEL. Your style is what I strive for.

>>6680274
check this high IQ move now.

I made drawing my job. Crazy huh?

>>6690429
Thanks a lot anon

I don't really get what else you guys are doing unless you have kids. I work the typical 8 hour workday, usually spend an hour getting ready for work, and spend 30 minutes of my day total commuting. I also spend about 1 to 2 hours in the gym 6 days a week. Even with all that though I still am able to get about 4 hours of drawing in on workdays. There's very rarely been points in my life where I just straight up don't have time it's always my own fault. If you legitimately don't have you need to change career paths

>>6692754
Also they make phones with pressure sensitivity now and some of them even run full featured CSP (pic related). It just lags when you use bigger canvases (I do like 4000px by 4000px) and especially the liquify tool. They're pricey (about $1000ish) but I felt like it was worth it for getting that time back in my day. Normies are kind of retarded and get pissy at my job for slacking if I pull out a sketchbook to draw in, but if I draw on my phone they don't notice. I also prefer this on the go because it's way easier to pull out my phone (the stylus fits inside the phone too like a DS) and draw on that instantly when I'm bored than pull out an entire sketchbook. A sketchbook really feels like something I have to have a large amount of downtime to be worth pulling out where my phone I can draw on it instantly when I'm microwaving my wagieslop or something.

>>6692764
I'm also not the best artist so I believe you could definitely do better, but here is an example of something I drew on my phone just to show it's really a capable machine. Especially because CSP has cloud sharing so you could absolutely start a piece on your phone and finish later at home on your desktop

>>6680274
drawing is my job

>>6680274
everyone here could have been drawing instead of posting (including myself, so after posting this i'm getting back to it)

you have the time, you just don't utilise it properly

>>6680274
If you love something enough, you make time for it! Make art a priority in your life and in your heart, it will make room for itself in your life. Sometimes I find myself drawing on sticky note pads, napkins, the notes app on my phone...

>>6688504
>Edgar Allan Poe, Nietzsche
There's a high chance they suffered from syphillis.