/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>nigger as OP picture

well, guess I have to skip this general *vomits*

>>6677791
Is your hand just jittery or something
Do you have the ol' man jitters?
If no, then I don't see a reason not to keep practicing lineart.

>>6677805
look on the bright side, at least it’s not your mom.

Drawing from life. Unfortunately, animals don't hold poses.

And another shitty pencil sketch. Started out pretty good, but I got tired. Also, I need a better way of not spreading graphite on my right side. The two finger glove isn't cutting it.

What are some good books for learning to render/color?

>>6677805
You already saw it and posted. You can leave the tab open and not look at it again.

>>6677818
Do like inkers do, you render from top left to bottom right, that way you don't spread nothing.

I wish I had the mental fortitude to just do "lock yourself in a room and draw children's blocks from various angles all day" hyperbolic fundie training.

Does someone have reference for a girl standing in a neutral pose that has every view? like side view front view 3/4 view. I need to learn how the body changes in these angles but most reference is always doing poses

>>6677840
Search on a 3d site, like pose maniacs or sketchfab

>>6677840
google "female 360 turn", or similar

>>6677840
https://app.posemy.art/

>>6677815
wanna earn a pistash?

>>6677814
Not sure. I tend to draw from wrist due to my half-lying position I tend to take and the fact that holding the hand up is quite tiring while keeping it on the tablet causes pretty awful drag that screw with drawing precision anyway even with my makeshift glove on.
Other thing is that pure lineart looks usettingly clean and empty
>>6677806
The plastic of the tablet is kind of grabbing my hand when I make turns and using different hand position/keeping it in air is tiring.

first time drawing something with a weird angle and this many effects and textures...i feel like i could've done way better but honestly i'm just glad it's finally over

>>6677859
>Draw from wrist
Yikes, that's a health hazard mate, is your tablet screen or screenless?
>Find lineart meh
Them... Don't do it? There are plenty of artists who don't like to use lines on their work, like most painters and color key artists

>>6677865
Watch this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH0Vkkc3Mgw

>>6677875
screenless

>Them... Don't do it?
Dunno, it kinda looks muddy with no lines. I kinda want to do animations in future, so lines are needed.

reposting this since nobody replied last time

(1/5)

>>6677882
(2/5)

>>6677882
(3/5)

>>6677882
(4/5)

>>6677882
(5/5)

>>6677879
>Screenless
Then I got you, was watching the Mattesi course(Force guy) and the dude puts the tablet in his lap, to not elevate his hand(which would make it tiring to draw)

>>6677891
I don't like the blue personally also draw the faces

>>6677887
This panel doesn't read well, what it is supposed to be? Also, you should check the manga thread, the folks there should help you more.

>>6677789
Reposting mine from earlier

>>6677885
Fingers will not be straight when relaxed.

>>6677893
Hey, that's quite an idea. Thanks!

>>6677903
didnt even think of that lol

>>6677899
You're eyes and mouth/nose are too high, also on a female the hips need to be as wide or wider than the shoulders

>>6677955
your*

>>6677838
Note to self:
The physical and mental damage is not worth it.
Balance your life for long-term benefits

>>6677827
I thought of that. I was hoping there's an easier way. I'm try it.

>>6677955
>also on a female the hips need to be as wide or wider than the shoulders
not really, coomer brained

what's wrong?

>>6677991
I'm gay and this is coom-worthy. Well done, anon.

>>6677991
thighs not big enough

>>6677989
t. troon

>>6677789
Anyone tried Chris Legaspi's stuff?

>>6677955
Oof. Yikes. How about we tone down the transphobia?

>>6677991
are you that russian retard from years ago

>>6677991
things've been pretty good for the past few months actually, much less suicidal ideation and i got a job now too

>>6678016
>yikes
I know you're doing a bit, but fuck you anyway.

my old attempt at that upside-down sketch looks like AI with how it fucked the hands and the leg became chair, kek

>>6677713

>>6678023
that's better than mine was

>>6678023
soulverload

>>6678023
where's the gesture

>>6678004
>>6678016
YWNBG

>>6677789
Should I practice on references before moving on to box forms in the Vilppu Drawing manual?

>>6678034
god 3d humans are so fucking ugly

>>6678038
I didn't do Vilppu, but definitely, absolutely, practice references.

>>6678023
Gmi

>>6678034
>muh realism
eat shit nigger
he should learn idealized proportions before he turns his characters into misshapen fish-like freaks

>>6678050
>idealized proportions
>coom shit
lmao kys coomer

Anons I need to know if any of you made it possible to use clip studio on Linux. I have a Linux notebook and a Windows PC where I use clip studio. I was thinking about getting a new notebook that also functions as a tablet and would like to use Linux again. However, I know clip studio doesn't support Linux, so did anyone made it work with Wine??

The structure of heads is an enigma.

>>6678085
It's literally in the reference, follow the shadow shape for the side plane.

>>6678065
I know a guy who does but from what he told me that hardly seems worth the trouble and he didn't manage to run the latest version with all the cool shit that made it better than Krita. Then again he sucks at computers.

I just have another SSD with a windows partition on it for clip studio and video games, it's way less annoying.

>>6676697
Linework is done

STOP! The Western way of learning art is degenerated beyond repair! Just do what the nips are doing and you might gonna make it. Throw away loomis, throw away bridgeman. Just draw cute anime girls all day everyday. Every great artist did it like this. Fundies are a meme and waste of time, they will cause depression and burnout. Just copy what you want to draw yourself one day and don't stop. Art is not about being anatomically correct, or having perfect believable perspective, it is about looking nice, don't learn bad habits, draw from your heart.

>>6678097
いい赤い添削絵画!

>>6678104
his right hand needs a bit more work, I now realise

>>6678100
>I just have another SSD with a Windows partition on it for clip studio and video games, it's way less annoying.
I'm also thinking about that rn, seems like the easiest solution. was thinking about windows/manjaro dual boot

>>6678034
i can only imagine what kind of hammerhead shark looking cunt you are irl
lmao

>>6678054
hey troony you will never be a girl with glorious wide hips
cope
seethe
dilate
>inb4 it's le shoop
you wish

>>6678123
keep posting porn and exposing yourself gooner faggot

>>6678104
damn what a massive downgrade
this is a good case study

>>6678108
even the japs use construction you retarded faggot weeb

>>6678123
You’re delusional if you can’t see the shoop in this

>>6678143
I was primed by >>6678034 to lower my defenses against unbelievable body shapes

>>6678133
why?

>>6678123
based
let the trannies seethe

man how do you draw this shit bro

>>6678145
it looks worse, way worse

>>6678150
you don't
and then we keep it that way

>>6678123
Behold! Glory of the wide hips!

>>6678151
I just replaced the lines, how can it be way worse?

>>6678157
nta but line weight looks much less dynamic

>>6678154
this image causes visceral pain to the troon.

Trying to follow mignon's book on painting skin and this method is referred to as "mask painting" in the machine translation. I know about clipping masks for not coloring outside of the base layer, but these settings seem to allow the different parts of the palette to be separated into layers, and they aren't seen unless you draw on top of them.
What would the english name be for this so I can look up other resources about this method?Also, this is in photoshop, but is it possible to do this in SAI?

Current WIP from the roll thread, I might try to paint it before going back to studies.

>>6677815
>Unfortunately, animals don't hold poses
Only if they're alive

Yugioh fanart wip.
almost done, mostly missing the background.

how do you do foliage/trees with line art? I don't mean detailed, just roughly for background scenes

>>6678150
BOOOOBA
please give me the ref coomerbro

>>6678208
look up AUTOMATICDOLLZ on slushe. its ai generated

>>6678212
I see
thanks bro

>>6678207
https://youtu.be/QxGAhWnvOEg
This guy is decent at line art advice.

>>6678231
Am I gonna make it horse bros?

>>6678234
GMI

>>6678236
Thanks bro

Should I wait until I understand construction better before copying other artists for fun / practice?

>>6678241
The answer to "should I wait" is almost always "No!"
Whatever it is, try it. If it sucks, come back to it later.

But for your question is a hard "no." You should copy other artists before trying construction.
Really.

>>6678244
Alright, I'm glad to hear that. I've finally reached a point with Vilppu that my drawings look generally like what I wanted them to, so now I wanna try copying some of my favorites before moving on in the book.

>>6678108
low effort

>>6678205
looks like a stand user

There is way too much information and way too many guides out there, as a beg you don't know where to start it's frustrating. You always think "Should i rather do this right now instead of this?" And get so confused that you just end up not drawing at all.

>>6678294
just draw

>>6678294
The sticky exists, read it, then pick one book and stick to it until you finish it. Don't hop between books, don't speedread, don't put on youtube in the background.
gl

>>6678104
The lines were much better before

>>6678176
I figured it out. It’s just layer masking the palette and adjusting the opacity of your brush. I haven’t figured out a way to blend the same way, but for now I just collapsed the layer and blended like normal.

Hello beg. 1P

>>6678294
keys to drawing
>>6678241
copying will level up so many of your skills you will go WOW. Trying to do construction without many fundies like observation, accuracy, perspective and gesture will only waste your time
>>6678231
i bet you are girl, all the girls love horses. also i am not horse expert but i think you made him too long
>>6678207
drawing foliage is a pain
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing/page/162
>>6678205
i kneel
>>6678176
layer masks
https://docs.krita.org/en/user_manual/layers_and_masks.html
>>6677991
lack of drapery showoff on her shoulders and armpits, try putting hands up in your shirt and notice all the wrinkles. their lack is making her upper torso almost flat
>>6677899
painfully flat, drapery bad
>>6677882
why dont you merge these into single pic? less spam and less chapchas plus it will give anons an idea what the comic would be about. also if nobody is (You)ing you, it probably means your question doesnt make sense. (yes i dont know what you are asking)
>>6677865
damn that pussy
>>6677822
you need to specify the medium anon
How to Render Scott Robertson, Framed Drawing Techniques Marcos Mateu-Mestre, Beginner's Guide to Digital Painting in Photoshop 2nd Edition, Color and Light James Gurney
>>6677818
beg pro tip: eyes are in middle of skull, not 3/4
>>6677815
try something like this
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing/page/205/
the rhino on top, when you see the animal from front draw the front view and when it turns switch to drawing the other view (it doesnt have to be on through the previous drawing). in theory after a while you will have multiple views of the animal finished

>>6678294
take advice from professionals

Hello how the FUCK do you paint convincing water?

Are there any resources for making art like this? I can't quite find the name for this style.

Any egregious issues with this one

>>6678444
your construction falls apart at the near shoulder and head
slenderman proportions

>>6678444
I don't know if I can say there are "wrong" things here. But there's a lack of proportion balance at first glance, her torso looks tiny and her arms and legs so long. But those proportions could work if that's your style and you make something awesome with that.
Anyway, I did a redraw so you can check if something adds up to your ideal of appeal. Art is very subjective.
Keep at it man.

>>6678231
I love horses man, nice drawing!

>>6678234
well not if u dont stop horsing around

>>6678468
I always love seeing your drawings pop up!

>>6678415
I don't paint it too much, because it is difficult, but when I do I break it down into really simple shapes that just look complicated. I think it kind of works like icing on a cake. Water is getting pushed around, but it's still going to have shadows and lights like everything else.

So I block in the water with a tone and then with a darker tone go back and forth creating long, wobbly X's or like a chain link fence kind of pattern and they get thicker the closer they get to the viewer. But if you were painting water from further away I ~think~ the idea is the same, except the wobbly X's are just thinner and smaller and you get a gradient across the water for the different values.

Again, I suck at this and don't do it often, but this is what I do.

>>6678231
good morning be sure to work on your antatomy

>>6678504
Holy Fucking Christ! That's cool anon! Saved!

>>6678503
LMAO you bastard I had to dig out this shit again LOL
https://youtu.be/FKdOpoXgMlM

I found some art I liked, mapped a couple of key points from the outline of the figure, and then went from there

>>6678529
Nice! Maybe you could try the original

Drew these lil niggas thought they was cool

>>6678540
maybe I'm tripping, but I'm seeing some shit on the creature in the middle...
COOL

>>6678551
you are but she looks cool kek

>>6678567
LOL, yeah maybe I should take a nap.

>>6678205
fuuuuuuuuuuck good job

i fucked up positioning the knees on the right figure, should have used the chair centerline more
krenz yurushite

>>6678551
Vaguely.

>>6678602
Wait, I'm seeing more shit dude...
Woah, I'm going to sleep now...

>>6678637
Yes!
I saw that one aswell but wanted someone else to chime in aswell :D
Good night sleep tight.

Trying to go for that hunter x hunter drip

>>6678391
I keep on making them too long, how do I fix this?
>>6678503
Kek

.

>>6678697
looks like a michael jackson album, like 'off the wall' for bpd chicks? are you making a record?

>>6678708
Kek'd

>>6678708
That's not intended..

>>6678697
could you PLEASE make the armpits hairy PLEASE im begging. good work otherwise!!!

>>6678727
https://files.catbox.moe/uxm91p.png

>>6678723
Ah, well I like it. And it's nice to know why she has that expression now. If she wants to sleep she can try turning off that harsh lighting ?

Well, there's definitely massive glaring issues everywhere, just ones that I don't have the skill to identify or fix right now. This was supposed to be an initial sketch too, but I've spent so long trying to fix the composition that I don't know how to continue anymore.

>>6678727
>Feeding the coomer
I shiggy diggy

hello i am looking for general advice other than art and a friend recommended i post here!

i turned 18 a few months ago and recently graduated from high school & have no idea what to do now that i am an adult with no college plans lined up & living with my parents. i am thinking of taking a gap year to work and save up money, then going to community college & transferring into either art school or going into engineering/computer science after 2 years. my grades are not good enough to go straight to normal college right now (long story)

i was mainly wondering if my art is good enough to even bother with art school? i have not the best grasp on anatomy and i dont know if my style is interesting enough to catch interest in a portfolio.

engineering is something i would rather keep as a hobby, i know that's backwards but my real passion is art. idk. should i give up and focus on something else? is art school worth it? do i have time to improve substantially? sorry if this is too long i am not used to 4chan

here is a wip for reference of my art skill as it is now, unfinished but i drew it last night

>>6678888
oh also i know i said i was looking for non-art advice but art advice on this drawing is ok too :-)

>>6678888
Your art is very strange and awkward, which is exactly what art schools are looking for!

Please don’t fucking put all your eggs into art. Even if you draw like Kim Jung Gi, it’s a fucking struggle making a career happen. You will never be able to draw what you actually want, and yes, that is a bigger deal than you think it is. Most professionals become soulless husks of themselves after 20 years of drawing Disney cartoons. Even if you do everything right, jobs dry up anyways, the economy goes down the shitter, and you’ll either be homeless or living with your parents for a few months, trying to get back on your feet. You better have a supportive spouse that’s willing to pay the bills.

If you’ve been around long enough, you’ll see that there are a fuck ton of artists who draw at a professional level, who don’t have a career in the arts. There were people at my art school who drew better than professional artists, who don’t have a career because of insecurity and lack of networking. They end up depressed and suicidal.

You should just do something else and try to make art happen on the side. When your income from art surpasses your day job, is when you can quit your day job and do art full time

>>6678907
thank-you for replying!!!

i agree a career in art doesnt seem very viable... i was already half-way convinced i shouldnt bother but i think you're right. the problem is the area i live in is very saturated with tech careers so it might be even harder for me to find a career in that also. maybe i should just move :P

but i appreciate the advice!!! also what in particular do you think makes my art awkward? is it the anatomy/expression/pose? i struggle with all of those things so any advice is helpful lol

>>6678888
first you need to post a picture of you naked and your dick before we give you advice, haven't you read the rules? Newfags, I swear..

>>6678888
Don't go to art school, everything that artschool teaches can be learned by yourself, learn a real skill that will actually make you money and keep art as a hobby.

Heh... another competitor dealt with.

>>6678471
Thanks bro

>>6678888{C H E C K E D}
I would recommend doing it on your own there's usually a video course general on this board but I guess the anon that keeps it up is out or something.
There's also the /ic/ torrent >>>/t/1069595
There is also the artbook general >>6675797
Personally I like Hampton as a starting point because that's what I did but the truth is after years you'll pick up bits and pieces here and there so if don't sweat it if you're not a pro after one course.
If art is your passion you should pursue that imo, but that choice is yours to make.
What I would reccomend is going to figure drawing classes as a supplementary of you doing stuff on your own, if they teach you well ofc which you''ll be able to pulse when you do courses beside it and can get something from different teachers
Your stuff looks nice btw

>>6678888
Profession first (sorry, capitalism sucks) then branch out. At least with a professional degree you can use it as a fall back plan.

Join arts clubs/organizations while working on your degree and work on/improve your portfolio, while keeping informed of any other artistic opportunities/careers that might open up (networking, newsletters, LinkedIn (unfortunately), etc.).

It might be a bit late in the game, but do you have an interest in architecture? From what I'v heard it's very competitive and labour intensive (not to say that engineering/comp sci is any easier), but it does definitely incorporate a more aesthetic/art-centric element.

Also, I think it's really impressive when STEM-cels incorporate whatever artistic skills they have into the designs they come up with (See: Da Vinci, Vitruvius, the guy who built the Parthenon, etc.)). An engineer with an aesthetic eye is rare... to say the least.

hello guys can i b ur friend

>>6678952
i do think architecture is very cool! mostly in an autistic identifying different types of roofing way but i havent considered it as a creer before. i dont think its too late to check it out since im going to community college + gap year so i basically have 3 years to figure out my career direction. thank you for your advice i will think on this!

>>6678948
thank you! from what i can tell theres a lot of very good courses online especially on this board. maybe i will get my degree in something higher-paying and self-study art as i go

>>6678535
NTA but drew this

>>6678970
http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.com/2016/11/pleissners-story-about-george-bridgman.html

Check your angles and basic forms

>>6678888
Bullshiiiiiit, cat faggot. I know it's you, you never capitalize your i's and use retarded exclamation marks in your sentences. You took this from somewhere didn't you?

Why do I even draw... to escape reality? Why yes, of course. But why? Is it because life sucks? Don't normies who go party and chose to not care about how fucked up life is escape reality that way too? Why are we so hated for creating our own worlds when normies do it all the time?

I look into the future and I can only see dystopian horrors beyond our current comprehension, psychological enslavement on a scale never seen before that even the pinnacle of power by the Catholic Church can't compare to what is to come. I am scared bros, AI will be the tool to end it all. It harnesses the power of hell itself.

>>6679045
Ok huntrad calm down.

>>6679045
>Why are we so hated for creating our own worlds when normies do it all the time?
because normalfags are niggers
now excuse me I have a fantasy map to work on

Even more hand study

>>6678988
Based Bridgman.

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>>6679101
SOVL

>>6678970
Nice! I like how you did the feathers

>>6678956
NICE TITS!!! and face+hair combo. Yeah you can be our friend

>>6678491
Actually extremely useful. I still have to fuck with it more to get it looking right and try different brushes for the foam but this feels way better than when I was randomly overlapping squiggles with water mountains between them, I can almost feel the waves

I love you

>>6679122
Wow, that looks great now. Thumbs up.

>>6679086
are you drawing these from photos or from your own hands?

>>6678956
im not friend with begs, yuck.

>>6677805
>not liking niggers
Wow you are such a faggot!

>>6679244
american moment

>>6678888
Don't go to art school. You're basically rolling the dice on if you actually get a decent one or (more likely) complete dogshit that'll make your art worse than when you started. All that and it'll cost a massive amount of money. If you want to go all in on art, go to an atelier like Watts or something.

>>6678962
>i do think architecture is very cool! mostly in an autistic identifying different types of roofing way
That's probably the best way to be into architecture for a career, I've had architect friends whose job is mostly figuring out how to cram as many urinals into a room as possible.

>>6677805
basado

alot of things came out less than ideal but happy with it.

>>6678888
Don't take a gap year. Trust me, get college done as soon as fucking possible. It's a chore. Pick some bullshit easy major you're slightly interested in. If you can do STEM, do it and keep art as a hobby.

>>6679295
It's fucking great, from the thumb it looked like a Sadamoto pic.
Fucking well done my nigga

>>6679295
this isn't /beg/ you've made it my man get out of here

>>6679244
Nta, but nobody likes niggers
Don't mistake them for black people just because they use the same character model

>>6679355
>t.civnatcuck
I thought about asking for advice about something ITT but with subhumans like you around I'd rather not

>>6679361
Want me to go "NO ANON PLEASE NO!!"
Fuck off. Piss off and never come back, retard.

how to make single subject drawnings more interesting? i often draw some random creature or dude floating in the void of white, what do?

>>6679003
hey thats my cade OC don't steal

>>6679003
wait i didnt read the post well cause drunk, what the fuck, i don't draw or write like that at all,

>>6679372
hope this helps

>>6679372
For me if I want to go further I think about what kind of environment or setting the creature would live in and add a few elements of that. Like does that creature live in a cave with glowing mushrooms and wet rocks, or is the face poking out from rows of corn in a field? You just have to be willing to obscure some parts of it if you can't fit the whole thing, but it helps sell the creature to place it somewhere.

>>6679372
>how to make single subject drawnings more interesting? i often draw some random creature or dude floating in the void of white, what do?
... draw backgrounds?

>>6679372
Add a single colored geometric shape.

>>6677815
>>6677899
Prebeg, NGMI

>>6679414
Permabeg crab, never ever gonna make it

>>6679459
it's only just begun

>>6679466
LET's DO THIS

Perspective?

>>6679475
OK.

>>6679361
>civnatcuck
I don't even know what the fuck that means
I'm no nigger lover for sure but you definitely need to stop getting mad at American """"""politics""""" over the internet to salvage what remains of your poor brain

>>6679459
>>6679466
>>6679475
This goofy exchange made me chuckle out quietly

>>6679393
holy mother of based. thank you kind sir, i will do that>>6679410
or that

>>6679384
sorry if lack of tits. would not work would be redundant and not so good. tits dont work on this, i wouldn't add tits to this guy

>>6679499
>>6679384
The tits don't work because they're in the wrong place. You should draw them on his head like Mickey mouse ears, that way they would complement his misshapen physique with a grotesque crown of flesh, enriching his whole aberrant figure

>>6677713
Please don't change this design. It's super hot. I love how the tension lines shape her figure, it has something unique and hot. I would give her more tits, but that's not important. Her body as a whole is HOT.

Even if this guy's >>6677787 redraw looks good, that's not make it better. It makes different. Yours has something special. Keep it please. And try to do that again. Those soft shapes and sexy subtle poses, are not common. Keep at it. Don't change it.

I did my redraw because I really like your drawing, not because I want you to change it. Keep them coming dude

draw patrick

How can I learn proper proportion?

>>6677818
Play closer attention to facial proportions. The eyes are in the wrong place.

Feet and hands are ok

>>6679534
practice

>>6677899
>>6677955
This is what happens when you go straight to hyperstylized art styles without getting a good grip on realistic anatomy.

>>6679539
Won't stop can't stop

>>6679541
nope this is what happens when you dont copy enough.. all you need to do is COPY as mcuh as possible.

>>6678108
How to me you nothing about drawing without telling me you know nothing about drawing

>>6678127
>>6678123
I feel that this discussion will not lead to a productive and insightful conclusion on either side

>>6679547
I mean studying by copying from refences or real life

>>6678205
Looks a little rough but in a raw and visually pleasing way.

>spend most of the day browsing internet and last remaining hours practicing
Is this a good way to continue learning? It's like I'm incapable of concentrating without some form of entertainment

>>6679553
doesnt matter pro artists just say to copy the things you like.

>>6679530
>draw patrick

>>6679534
The proportions are ok. The head came out like that because you ran out of paper. That happens. If you had a big sheet of paper, then the head would have came out been fine because you did good all the rest of body, and you wouldn't be asking if the "proportions are ok". Keep doing this. Keep copying reference. Do the head and the neck next. Do the legs, try to block shapes for the hair. Don't stop, just push through.

>>6679581
based

>>6679595
Oh yeah no plans in stopping, actually on an A3 booklet thing, been running out of paper space recently, not sure why. Doing a horse a day. Thank you for the advice!

>>6679534
Now, anons already told you to practice, but i'm gonna give you something more actionable: To study proportion, you gotta have something to measure, be it how many heads a thing is, how many quadrants, etc. For instance, pic related, I chose the head of the horse.

>>6679633
I will try measuring with next time, will see how I do

>>6679636
First, sorry for the handwriting, it's shit, but it's not gonna get better.
Second: My rec is for you to measure after you already drew, it gets boring pretty fast if before

>>6679643
Yeah makes sense, I guess at this stage it's all about learning and what not

>>6679643
>>6679633
PYW?

(not because I think you're unfit to give advice, but because I'm curious if your art eclipses your handwriting)

tried connecting the eyebrows with an expression

>>6679646
Kek, sure, I won't post anything new, cause I am going trad, so here is a little project from last year: (Pic related)

>>6679680
so improving at art really won't fix my handwriting... it's over for the handwritten word...

>>6679653
reminds me of vempires stuff, looks good anon

>>6679680
>art and handwriting ability aren't exact
THANK FUCK THERE'S HOPE FOR ME

It's over. Mom always tells me I should have gotten into medicine..

less doodling more fundies

tried to do some poses from imagination

>>6679680
>Reg was so fucking done

How did I do?

>>6679780
too cute to get my dick hard otherwise good

>>6678205
background added

>>6679784
that is so so beautiful

>>6678391
>>6678590
>>6679559
>>6679786

Thank you.

crits appreciated

>>6679784
Beautiful work, which brushes did you use?

>>6679802
circular textured brush for the characters.
square textured brush for background and clothes.
air brush here and there.

Hello beg: 2P. This was very labor intensive and i am not even sure the underlying construction was worth it. I guess it is less wobbly than usual but like: this is nowhere near better to validate twice the effort i put in

>>6679798
looks like you know what are you doing + she has depression
>>6679780
damn that body render, coomable
>>6679719
a weird mix of cursive and basic. 4/10
>>6679569
you didnt PYW so i have to assume you didnt draw and as such i diagnose you with permabegosis until proven otherwise
>>6679534
>>6678692
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing/page/70
>>6679372
what you are looking for is called composition and or design. One of the many books dealing with such things are Framed: Ink. Yes i know it is about making comics but in comic every single panel is treated as a drawing and no matter what is on the pic its the comic maker job to make it look cool
>>6679295
this could outright be in one of the old anime or manga or comics from 90ties. i kneel tradchad
>>6679101
the only positive thing i can say is that you didnt fuck up perspective (if i will ignore the sun and extreme earth curvature)
>>6678956
coom suppliers are always welcome
>>6678824
make random things in the dark shine or reflect light
>>6678647
this is cool

>>6679836
bro..there has to be an end to your perspective studies..it's okay you can start drawing now..

>>6679836
what >>6679841 says

START FIGURE DRAWING NOW. YOU'RE LOSING YEARS OF YOUR LIFE.

>>6679845
>>6679841
Post your perspective drawings right now.

>>6679845
why? drawing is not just about girls

>>6679846
>your mind when you overdose on perspective
seriously, start figure drawing now. Your sense of form will improve, your characters will improve, your art will become more fun to look at, and you yourself will have more fun drawing. Plus, your perspective automatically gets better when you do figure drawing. It just does.

>>6679224
I'm using online references.

>>6679857
I'm not Pawell and I do figure drawing. But just look at this. This is what happens when you don't spend time studying perspective.

How do I find the whole width of the side of the cranium? I know:
>Left/front of the cranium is roughly where the brows begin
>Top of the cranium is roughly at hairline
>Bottom of the cranium is roughly at nose line
But where is the back/right of the cranium? Is there any landmarks? How do you make it out the side of the cranium in pic related? Where does the right of it end?

>>6679862
I don't see anything wrong with that. The vanishing points sit on the same horizon line

>>6679866
If they don't meet at a point that means the walls of the room aren't parallel.

>>6679866
how wrong it is depends on what intention was

>>6679862
>little girl trapped in padded laser cell

>>6679862
is anyone gonna be autistic enough to double check every drawing made in perspective ever though

>>6679862
It’s fisheye

>>6679882
no it's not

>>6679887
yes it is

>>6679704
Thanks, I came back after dinner and fixed the hair a bit and tried to have some fun with it :^)

>>6679881
Viewers don't need to, if it's wrong enough they'll feel that something is "off". It's like if you fuck up anatomy.

>>6679900
What the hell are you talking about?

>>6679956
I dunno… can you repeat the question?

For the life of me I cannot figure out how to use digital art programs on a basic level like Krtia, Clip Studio or gimp. I am literally autistic and adhd and my brain gets so frustrated trying to understand the basics like layers and colors I give up after about an hour of fandangling around like a retard and can't even sit through an entire youtube tutorial. I don't know how zoomers can do this it feels so humiliating I have spent almost a decade unable to figure out a basic art program

>>6679963
These programs are hard as fuck man, don’t worry about it. I remember i avoided using the iPad Pro my dad bought for me for almost a year because I was so scared or procreate. (And procreate is the easiest fucking program)

Just learn it one function at a time, and only learnt he functions you need. I use csp and I only know the manga functions. I don’t know anything about how to paint in it or make animations, because I don’t need it and I’ll forget anyways.

WHY IS LINEART SO HARD

PLEASE HELP

>>6679967
are you using any stabilization tool?

>>6679863
I just don't understand how you're supposed to know where to position this side circle, if you have no landmark to identify the right end/back end of it. Obviously it's a perfect circle if it's a perfect side-view, but what if it isn't a perfect side view?

>>6679967
When you ink, you should go way way slower than when you sketch. Each line should be crisp and clear. Think C,S, I lines. Pay attention to overlaps and compression of forms against each other. Inking is really a very difficult test of your drawing skill, and if you lack in solid drawing, you inks won't look good.

Also, use stabilization like >>6679974 said

>>6679981
how do you achieve this brush?

>>6679987
I used the "real g pen" in clip studio paint. it's a default brush

>>6679967
1. Use stabilizer if possible.
2. Quick lines are less wobbly than slow lines.
3. Use a new layer to draw your next line, so you can overshoot your line and erase without worrying about erasing old lines.
4. Use rulers to help draw curves if possible.

Digital lineart is something that's been bothering me for a long time. I've found a few tricks to help, but it's still the most difficult thing I do.

>>6680012

Wish I wasn't blind to my own stuff so hard, even mirroring doesn't shake it. Have to put stuff off for hours to see if it looks alright or not.

>>6679109
>>6679836
thank u anons...

Just discovered that the thoracic spine has 30-35 degrees of rotational freedom and the lumbar spine has <10 degrees of rotation. Almost every figure drawing resource treats the ribcage as a solid volume and puts the twist between the ribcage and the pelvis.

I thought vlippu was being weird by always using twisted and bent boxes for the ribcage but aparently he was 160iq the whole time.

>>6680033
he's the best, isn't he?

>>6680033
i dont get it...

>>6680055
ribcage is bendy, not stiff

>>6679981
>>6679990
Alright bros. I did it again but with a different pen and went way slower. My issue was definitely going too fast desu

>>6680062
having trouble picturing it, is there any pictures that would show it good??

>>6680082
acrobats, gymnasts, dancers, pole vaulters...

trying out a different rendering style

>>6680110
forgot to resize

>>6677789
Hello. I just my tablet today (huion with no screen) and after getting used to using a pen on this by writing the alphabet and drawing some basic shapes. I tried sketching a favorite character of mine. I started around 11pm, and just finished now so it took me a while. THe hardest part was definitely the hair, that must have taken half the time cause of how many curves and ends it had.Also it turned out smaller then I thought it would. I used krita for this and the brush im using seems to be blurry. Ill try using a more defined brush next time

>>6680115
and just finished now at 1am*

>>6680115
That's cool, that you managed to handle the tablet pretty quick. If you're doing lineart use the dynamic brush tool, it has a stabilizer that you can adjust in the tool options, I have it set at mass:0.15 and drag:1.00.

If you're going to sketch, you should use the sketching chrome thin with a black color. That brush has a little bit of stabilization weird engine, it's great because you can be loose and at the same time there's a drag that follows your lines wich helps a lot.
Good luck man.

>>6680139
Ah okay, thanks for the advice! Can I ask a question though? What's the difference between sketching and doing lineart? Since I saw you suggested different tools

>>6680145
When you sketch you're building something, you're not precise, you are looking for shapes is a messy drawing. Once you have a clear idea done, then you grab a solid brush and do clear and clean lines on top of the messy sketch. Artist usually say that that is the hardest process, the lineart. Because you need a steady hand, but with the Stabilization tools (dynamic brush tool in krita) that process is much more easier. You will see.

I would like to get some guidance on what to do to start growing and making some profit, these are 4 of what I consider my best works. I really like to create scenarios or establish a little story in the works like work 1 (From left to right), so something like concept art would be something I would be interested in getting into.
However I feel that this field (and actually all) of art is very tight and it is difficult to be known or stand out from the rest.
I'm currently studying a career very different from art, but I don't really like it as much as art, my ultimate goal is to create something that people like and share, whether it's a video game, a comic, a comic, an animation, whatever. I feel that if I take a risk and bet on art I could have some positive result but I don't know what to do to achieve it.
Any advice on how to get started in this career even though it is extremely competitive?
If you have any criticism or comments about my work, go ahead.

>>6680148
Aaah okay. Thank you very much

About 90% of the way done
How can I make the colours better

>>6680164
cool

>>6680151
Stickers.

>>6680151
Go to twitter, go to Facebook, instagram, tik tok, show your work to the normies who consume visual content all day , don't capsule your work in a bubble with other artists like you. Like deviant art i.e.
And be aware that, it is quite possible that the career you're studying right now, will give you a good life, and art will only give you uncertainty, not because you're not good, but because making a business of your art is too fucking hard. Most of the times, it never happens. Most artists expect to be part of a big project, but that big project usually is in the hands of another poor bastard having the same dream. The "industry" is too flimsy and uncertain. You need security first of all, whatever you do finish that career you're doing now, that will be the most important thing in your live. "Art" can be learnt, people pick art at whatever age and they learn it, but it won't give you a career or a job. Just finish your studies and after that do whatever you want.

>>6680115
Awesome! A trick I do with the hair that helps me is to draw a real light outline of the overall shape and then go in with the curls. Eventually you start getting a feel for how hair is done in anime and it becomes second nature.

>>6680166
The color looks great man, but I think your girl needs some adjustments, specially in the arms, and she needs some body foreshortening. I redraw her legs and lower body closer to the camera.

>>6678952
>sorry, capitalism sucks
If you think commies would let you freeload just because you can draw some anime tits, then you're wrong.
At best you would get a job making animated cartoons or propaganda posters, but otherwise the state wouldn't be really interested in your work. Not to mention you would still have to compete with other artists for those cushy positions.

>>6680169
asperger art

>>6680201
Wow, just three words made you seethe and sperg out all of that?
Sorry, OUR Capitalism did sucks. That's why we are getting demoted down form the "first place". They take care of their people, we don't. Simple as that. Call it as you want.

>>6680192
dude that looks sick already, nice sketch!

i haven't drawn in 10 billion years

>>6680235
The shading seems somewhat weird, specially the nose doesn't fit the light source also what is the ear? Stop hiding hands lazy boy. What style are you going for specifically?

Can someone please redline the ass on this pose?

I'm having a very hard time figuring out if the genital should even be visible at this angle.

Please. I'm having a headache

Another day for hand study

>>6680308
i usually dont hide the hands i swear lol it was just the reference i was using. however the ear was pure laziness. shading on the face fucks me up pretty bad every time. i don't really know what style i'm going for but i like thick lines and hard shading.

>>6680319
Help
Did I get it right this time?

>>6679784
i think i recognize your art from months ago, glad you're back :)

NEW THREAD
>>6680357
>>6680357
>>6680357

Help, how do I perspective

How do I background and environments

>>6680192
I'll remember to do that, thank you

>>6680334
Her legs frankly make no anatomical sense. It looks like she's sitting on her own left knee.

>>6680319
>>6680334
I would say no, but this is 2D art man, you can do whatever you want. You can show a bit of it down there if you want.

>>6680576
Ok, that makes sense. Thanks

>>6677789
How can i draw embarrassed faces?