/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6646379
>Check out the webm to understand how bad they are
Here.

just picked up an artist 13 2nd gen, and im trying to find a sleeve for it that doesnt have a zip on it? i just want to slide it out,. most laptop sleeves arent long enough which is messing me up. also liking it so far, cheap chinese tablets arent too bad, just need to get a stand

Where the fuck are the video reviews for the xenxelabs 24? Been over a month since it was released

>>6646430
>Been over a month since it was released
not according to their garbage website
all links to it are broken so you can't buy it online as far as I can see
https://www.xencelabs.com/us/store/pen-display/xencelabs-pen-display-24

>>6646415

do you have big or small hand? I want to try it but I'm afraid it's too small for my gigantopithecus hands.

Just how bad is the nib burning on the latest intuos pro?

>>6646520
I don't draw that often, maybe one large piece a week, and a new nib lasts two-three months before it starts wearing flat. If you draw with it everyday you'll probably burn through them. I sketch on my ipad and on paper though so i'm not thebest metric. Stuff like your pen pressure, grip strength and how often you use tilt affect how quickly it starts wearing down. I will say compared to earlier intuos tablets and alternatives, it's definitely noticeable. But it does feel nice to draw on.

What kind of screen protector do you use for your iPad? Paperlike is bad for the nib?

can no one with more than 2 braincells ever make the OP for this instead? it's always the same schizophrenic retard who shills ancient 2nd hand filth

>>6647179
I had Paperlike a while back but that's because there weren't other matte screen protectors around at the time, now you can find lots of them for very cheap comparatively. Yes, they do eat your nib faster and it dulls the colors of the display somewhat but if you absolutely cannot handle drawing on the glass screen then you kind of need it.

>>6647184
yeah, buying an intuos3 at this point just doesn't make sense. any screenless xp-pen is perfectly serviceable especially if you're a beginner.

>>6646430
>Where the fuck are the video reviews for the xenxelabs 24? Been over a month since it was released
No, it was a prerelease
>>6647184
Someone tried using an updated version of it, OP had a schizo fit, started spamming the catalog with other digital tablets threads to try dwindle the main one.
Mind you, it's the same guy who went fucking ballistic because someone linked another youtuber that AGREED that you shouldn't trust reviews of chink tablets because manufacturers soft blackmail reviewers, because said youtuber recommended other chink tablets that he bought out of his own pocket.
>>6647260
>I had Paperlike a while back but that's because there weren't other matte screen protectors around at the time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yddcTQ4ewOs

>>6647443
>because someone linked another youtuber
I love when he gets ultra asshurt about people using Brad Colbow's videos because
>he doesn't make videos for professionals working on the industry
despite that being exactly what most people here come to lurk in this thread, we're mostly amateurs and hobbyist, a video for professionals is something we want to avoid.

Talking about Colbow, I think I agree with this take.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh49NwMt1yw
>Best tablet for BEGINNERS
tl:dw
>Ipad Air
>S6 Lite 2022
>if still a beginner but wanna buy a dedicated drawing tablet
>Huion Kamvas 16
>XP-Pen Deco MW
>inb4 chink shill
He flat out states older, cheaper versions of Huion and XP-PEN are faulty and untrustworthy.

As someone who bought an Intous as my first drawing tablet and has learned to use it, I agree, it was too expensive when I didn't know what I was doing, I regret that buy constantly.
>inb4 chink shill
Here's my Wacom, you fag.

>>6646520
not enough
I actually prefer it rough since I got tons of Chinese nip but it stops being rough after 3-4 month and my nip last 10-20 times longer
probably because of my hand

>>6647501
>nip
oh fuck its nib

>>6646478
Normal sized (medium glove) and i find its an alright size but of youre hands are bigger than mine id say get a bigger on because its just acceptable for me. Any smaller would be too small

>>6647443
I said "at the time". I bought Paperlike when it first came out in 2018. Even got a personalized email from the kraut that made it thanking me for buying. But yeah now there's pen tips and cheaper matte protectors that do the same thing. Even back then they felt a bit overpriced for two sheets and they're certainly not worth it now.

>>6647628 (Me)
Sent that too soon... I've never tried the pen tip covers or replacement tips so I can't speak to their quality but a simple matte protector from amazon does what it needs for me personally.

I have a cintiq and it seems to display colors REALLY VIVIDLY like more vivid than real life. things i color on the tablet end up dull on my monitor. should i get used to it or play with the setting to try and tone it down a bit?

>>6647889
it's better if you match it to your monitor imo

>>6647889

How accurate is your monitor?

>>6647889
are the colors washed out on a phone or other screen too? it might just be the monitor that's actually got the bad colors

>>6647914
>>6647934
monitor is not accurate at all. the tablet is a cintiq pro 24 p and my monitor is like 10 years old. maybe ill try to get a new monitor, but i am thinking there is no way any regular monitor can display colors like this

>>6646379
Fuck off Wacom nigger

>>6647939
okay good idea, comparing with my tablet, monitor, and phone. and my phone is much closer to the tablet

>>6647981
probably because you're phone is running in VIVID colour mode also what phone do you have higher end devices usually have fairly colour accurate displays like the iphone or samsung S line
anyway you can turn down the digital vibrance in your GPU driver settings if you need to

https://www.youtube.com/live/7UmoArKmouc?feature=share

Soon, XP Pen are making an announcement

>>6648150
Yeah, they were going to announce a new 24' display, considering they both belong to the Havon-Ugee group.
My guess is that any Xencelabs Display that didn't make the quality standard gets refurbished to be stable on lower specs and becomes the new Xp-Pen. Is not unusual to do that.

>>6648150

New line of Artist Pro displays, New X3 Pro stylus
New Wireless remote controller and new line of Deco Pro tablets.

>>6648240
>>6648236

Also new level of pressure sensitivity with 16k

>>6648240
>>6648242
Still stands, the new decos copy the design of the xencelabs tablets, and they just released a display line last year.
Releasing another again this year, tells me that while last year's Displays were an improvement on XP-Pen's usual, they were still dragging behind Huion's leaps of improvement, so the bosses just threw that line to the trash and told them to just copy what the Xencelabs R&D department had done.
Honestly that's probably why the new Xencelabs Display hasn't come out yet, it would totally mogg the new Xp-Pen before it released.

>>6646379
Is the info regarding portable display tablets still up to date? I want to get a tablet that I can use for university that also makes for a good drawing tablet. I don't really want to get an iPad. Are the Galaxy Tab models my best bet here? Or should I bite the iPad bullet? I would really like to have good compatibility with my windows computer though...

>>6648401
S6 Lite 2022, S7 FE and the S8 variants are all good
Depends on how much you're willing to spend and what size screen you're comfortable drawing on

>>6646379
who else here /xencelchad/

>>6648401
I've owned everything from the old Cintiq Companion to the Galaxy tabs and the iPad Pro and the iPad Pro has been the only one that's been alright for occasional sketching.
Have no clue where people are coming from to be able to find Android tablets usable for art but they've all felt like garbage to me.

Still waiting on an updated version of the Mobilestudios though, ANY FUCKING YEAR NOW WACOM

>>6648525
Waiting for Pen Display 24 reviews and maybe I'll join the club. Have the dough just waiting to pull the trigger.

You can't pirate CSP and photoshop on an iPad though, right?

>>6649339
procreate is better and only $10

>>6646379

my friend bought a 24 inch display and I tried drawing on it. It's so uncomfortable. I would fuck my neck and back drawing for long hours. I still love my 24 inch monitor and 10 inch drawing surface tablet. I put my monitor on vesa mount so I can look slight up and draw while leaning back on my chair. so comfy...

>>6649339
That's correct. Walled garden, etc.

>>6647473
>He flat out states older, cheaper versions of Huion and XP-PEN are faulty and untrustworthy.
Guess what retard? He has been reviewing tablets for years, and gave positive reviews to those exact "older models" back when they released.

Keep shilling you worthless moron. I'm sure people are really going to care about your youtube career reviewers.

>>6649339
Why are you idiots so obsessed with the same old garbage software? If you want to use Photoshop and Clipstudio, you get a computer. If you want to use an iPad, you might as well used apps specifically designed and optimized for the hardware like Procreate and ArtStudio Pro.

Huion Giano or Intuos M (non pro) ?

I have an older bigass Huion tablet I'd want to upgrade on because of the shitty battery stylus. I always thought it was kind of big which would probably make Intuos M a non-brainer. I did buy a 32" 1440p monitor recently so I'm not sure if I should downsize.

>>6649396
How is it better? I’m really starting to hate CSP.

I have a monoprice/huion that doesn't have a tilt function at all but doesn't have line wobble from what I've tested and the pressure seems fine. Is the "cheap chinese tablets are shit" mainly for tablets with screens? Does the tilt function make drawing more enjoyable?

>>6650141
It has all the tools you need without feature bloat like AI coloring or the 3D shit. Also has a touch-native interface that actually lets you use the canvas instead taking up 30% of the screen.

Someone nearby is selling their Cintiq 24 pro with stand for ~$1100, upgrading from a xppen pro 15.6. Anything I should look out for on the Cintiq besides obvious stuff like dead pixels?

What is the largest size (drawing surface area) non-display tablet in the market currently? Across all brands.

>>6650358
Scratches, the screen can be faulty, work great for 15 minutes then it goes to black or start to flicker, plenty of things can be bad when buying a second hand Cintiq.

>>6650693

>>6650648
>work great for 15 minutes then it goes to black or start to flicker
Right, this slipped my mind. I'll get to test it a bit before buying so hopefully that won't be something that'll happen, thanks anon.

>>6650694
There is no reason not to have an Ipad these days.

>>6650732
Check for panel uniformity, see if there are shadows or other blemishes. Check on the margins of the screen if the lines wobble and how much.

when you press and make a stroke, is the pressure supposed to jump all over? I'm looking at the pressure bar in the tablet settings and just so volatile. Is this normal?

Bought a Pro Pen 3 as a backup pen and saw that they had a compatibility list on the packaging.
But it only lists the Cintiq Pro 27.

Wacom plz
make more tablets
p l z

>>6650875
no your shit's fucked

>>6649782
>Why are you idiots so obsessed with the same old garbage software? If you want to use Photoshop and Clipstudio, you get a computer. If you want to use an iPad, you might as well used apps specifically designed and optimized for the hardware like Procreate and ArtStudio Pro.
How the fuck would I know if I don't own an ipad in the first place?

>>6651091
>spend hundreds of dollars on something without even researching it

>>6646379
>N-Trig digitizer
again, wtf is this? sounds like made-up bullshit by wacom shills. surface pro gets recommended by actual artists (not /ic/ crabs) and I can't find anything about wobbly lines in reviews I read.

I got me a cintiq 13, the cable is a bit shit though. Every night I fear to find it finally died.

>>6650602
i think wacom has a 32 inch tablet if i remember correctly cba to look it up

>>6652917
oh oops you said non screen I think it's still wacom that has quite a large screenless tablet but that shit is like 500 bucks

Been thinking of trying out iPads for drawing instead of an android tablet, and also to replace my aging Tab S3 as on-the-go drawing tablet. What's the minimum iPad specs should I go with? Also how annoying is the file management on iPads nowadays, been very long time since I used the Apple ecosystem.

Then again I have a bunch of paid apps I use on the google playstore so it's probably going to be annoying to rebuy some of it kek

>>6653069
Buy either the M1 or M2 ipad.

>>6650141
If you're still here it's definitely not better, in fact it's missing a ton of features like adjustment layers, and the brushes feel weird to use. Good if you just need basic shit, if you're already used to other programs then don't bother. ASP is closer to regular programs but I haven't really used it properly.

>Decide to bite the bullet and look into buying a Cintiq
>$2500 for a display with a laminated screen
>$500 - $600 for a stand
>$100 for a vesa mount adapter if I want to use non Wacom stand
>$300 for 4 year IPR plan because of how bad QC is

The Huion is getting fucking tempting, I've got a ipad 12.9 which is my workhorse, but I would like to go bigger and with desktop programs.

>>6649779
he openly states in his older videos how they all add wobble to the lines.
1:40, I know that he says nice things, but he shows you the issues on screen. probably a clever way to avoid getting on huion's bad side and continue to get stuff for reviews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cvU1V2IHfQ

>>6653069
what kinda stuff you drew on the S3? examples?

>>6653069
>file management
As annoying as ever. Literally every iPad review in the last 2 years+ constantly shit on iOS and wishes it comes with macOS instead.

Xp-pen 15.6 masterrace reporting in, been using that badboy constantly for a month now, and it's amazing, you can't get anything better for 300 bucks. Don't listen to the wacom shills, their shit is good, but overpriced.

>>6653948
buy an ipad

>>6652402
You're just another idiot desperately trying to rationalize your purchase lmao.
It's not difficult to find a benchmark, it's a known issue. Nothing is stopping you from drawing a slow diagonal line on your own shitty tablet either.

>>6653948
Honestly you should only get wacoms if you're a complete professional who's making a living (not just side hustle) out of using wacom displays. Literally any alternatives like the iPads, Samsung, Huion, XP-Pen will do just fine. It's 2023, not back in 2012 where wacom was the only viable drawing tablets and the chinks used to suck balls.

>>6654051
it's literally a driver issue, zero modern surface pros with modern pens have jitter. try again wacom shill.

>>6654307
but doesn't the new iPad 12.9 cost around 1.2k for the M1/2 version? that's pretty expensive since you also have to buy the pencil

>>6654647
A lot of people buy new ipads from their phone carrier. So it’s either free or “free” where you pay a few bucks per month.

>>6654042
>>6654307
Already have one, I absolutely love it but the only downsides are the screensize and that I can't use desktop programs.

Given how stupidly expensive Wacom is, I'm tempted to go with the Huion 24in Pro 2.5k. I'm kind of doubtful it will be a better pen experience than the ipad though.

>>6652402
How's auto-contrast working for you? Switch from a white background, then to a grey background, observe what happens to your color palatte. Report back.

>>6654862
literally nonexistent issue. wacom shills are getting desperate.

>needing more than 12.9 inches
size queen

>>6654657
Why not go for the non-pro Cintiq 22? It's crazy cheap for how amazing it is. I had a Pro 13 and the 12.9 inch iPad Pro before getting it, and it was still a great experience. Only very near the edges do do you have to pay attention to where your cursor is parallaxing, otherwise for the actual canvas portion of the tablet and where you'll be drawing it's fucking great and on point.

too late, I've fallen victim to an e-celeb shill,
I bought a cheap Gaomon tablet...
how fucked am I?

>>6653948
I got a huion kamvas best decision of my life

>>6655407
The non pro version is not laminated which ridiculously for that price

>>6655409
Nigga that shit cost like 20 bucks, like even if it's dog shit, who cares throw it away and get something else

>>6646415
>>6653948
>he doesn't make his own stand
>>6655421
it's a screen tablet though, costed me 200 bucks

>>6655420
Non-laminated screens are ridiculous for $1000?
You deserve your retarded life decisions if you're basing what you do on little stupid bullshit like that.
The screen and the accuracy of the pen is fucking amazing, worth three times what they're asking for and outshining the garbage laminated screens that Huion and the other wannabes can do. You can have all your paper tech specs all you want but when the makers can't make the hardware work in the fucking software at all you'll end up with a sub par experience.
But maybe that's what you want, as a sub par fucking person.

>>6655460
Maybe you could've afford your meds if you didnt spend them shilling for your wacoms schizo

>>6655460
take that wacock out of your mouth pajeet

>>6654907
>literally nonexistent issue. wacom shills are getting desperate.
I had a SP3 and it was a huge issue, but disabling it wasn't too hard. With an SP5 and later made it increasingly difficult to install unsigned drivers that would allow you to remove this feature. This kept me from upgrading from a newer device.

I'm asking to report back to see if the situation has improved, or if color accuracy is still being trashed by automatic adjustment of contrast. So do a test and report back instead of being a little bitch. While you're doing that, I'll be drawing on my XP-Pen 22R because it was big and affordable and educated myself on its shortcomings and found them acceptable, something people can't do if you handwave issues away.

>poorfags coping

?why not just take a commission or two to pay for a good Wacom?

>>6655670
>wacum and good in the same sentence
typed this using my ipad Pro 2021 with the apple pencil 2 from apple docked in its charger

in case anyone was thinking of buying this china made chingchong shit. https://twitter.com/boosterpang/status/1658198642711482370?s=20

boosterpang, known nsfw artist has his pricey tablet shit the bed after 6 months and no support from huion in their rice paddy they scam out of.

Anon, red pill me on the Ugee u1600, it's 200 euros at the moment.

>>6655987
>looks it up
im a little confused about this.
chinese scam sellers are known to hijack official pages on amazon and the business address for the huion account does show a suspicious chinese address.
but they usually hijack the page to sell their own stuff, not the official product.
amazon shipped him a huion tablet but its not covered under warranty because a third party seller hijacked the listing?
whole thing is weird.

>>6656275
and that tablet link is right on their official store page.
really weird.

>>6655675
Awwww little baby with his iPad making his crayon drawings thinks he’s a big boy artist awwwwwww that’s so tucking cute and retarded AAAAWWWWWWWW

>>6656275
>>6656280
sounds more like Huion is trying to weasel out of warranty

>>6656003
15 year olds just love to say "redpill" like it means anything anymore huh

I have four buttons on my tablet and two on my pen and I use none of them.

whats the best tablet for 100-150? and 1 tht works well with GIMP?

Opinions on HiPaint/Huion sketch?

>>6655987
>retard can't even tell the difference between scam sellers and official ones
>caring about what he says

>>6656281
where did the apple pen touch you anon?

>>6656450
I never use the buttons on the tablet either
For the pen I have one set to ALT (color picker) and the other for ctrl+z (undo)

>>6656450
I really tried to use the ones on my tablet, but it was a pain (literally) and there weren't enough buttons for all my shortcuts. I use my pen buttons for color picking and right click.

I usually have to modify my brushes a lot to make them comfortable.
>1: Comfortable pencil brush I found
>2: Original Pen Brush
>3: Modified Pen Brush
I have a small screenless tablet and usually pen brushes feel slippery of sorts (pencils are alright).
Will the 1:1 proportion of a screen tablet alleviate this, making the different pen brushes just a mater of style?

Any way to make pen feel heavier?
Im using one from the older models of Huion (Pro V2) and I don't know, it feels too light for my taste. I don't want to put masking tape on it, like I usually do with ink pens, out of fear ruining it in case I might want to sell it in the future.

>>6656450
Wise, same here.

>using pen button for your workflow forces you to hold your pen in the same position, fucking your nib hard
>If any of the buttons on your tablet break, youre without a tool until you get it repaired/buy a new one

always best to use stock keyboard for your workflow, coz if it breaks its only a keyboard

>>6658361
That's a weird concern. I used the buttons on my previous tablet for 10 years and they're still working.

I noticed the Chinese retard here has started seething about "wacom fag" in other /ic/ threads. Talk about being obsessed lol.

Most Japanese artists use an iPad now. Just buy one used, there are heaps on eBay.

>>6659111
Selling my ipad atm, felt more like a toy for kids with ADHD rather than a workhorse. Using a thinkpad + intuos pro for on the move. I am also not obnoxious enough to draw in public.

>>6659121
Sounds like a you issue

>>6659111
>Most Japanese artists use an iPad now.
>source: my butt

>>6659148
>he doesn't know

>>6659111
>Most Japanese artists use an iPad now.
I watch jap artist's livestream regullarly and i noticed most of them are using cintiqs or chink alternatives, i rarely see anyone using ipads, the ones that uses it only draws some quick shitty scribbles once in bluemoon

>>6659785
>livestream
hmm i wonder why

>>6659789
It is still a much better indication of their preferences than pulling shit out of your ass

I own a pen display, the Huion h610pro v2, and it feels like a cheap piece of plastic. And it was cheap at $49 dollars.

I would like to get a Wacom, but when you a broke nigga, you get the basedkrill with the flavor packets.

Any word on the performance of Dell Latitudes?

SMALL or MEDIUM?

Talking about the Intuos.
S is small and light enough that I could probably hold it and use it on my sofa like top pic.
M is so big, it fits my laptop and I would probably place it on my keyboard and use it there (like I did with my old Intuos 5).

I legit have no idea. More space can be great but I tried drawing on a couch with an ipad and it was very nice. Maybe the lack of screen would kill the benefits, I don't know

>>6660052
If you can afford it medium is much better and pretty much the perfect size.

>>6660052
Don't get the small, unless you /want/ to murder your wrist long term.

Speaking of which. I'm thinking about getting either the Huion WH1409 V2 or the Inspiroy Giano since they both are cheaper than the Intuos Pro Large for around the same size. Anyone have any experience with these? The Giano is more expensive though.

>>6659128

sounds like a chad

>>6659785
>the ones that uses it only draws some quick shitty scribbles once in bluemoon
you mean like what 99% of artists use them for? ipads aren't for serious rendering

>>6660961
The Giano had newer pen tech iirc, with chink brands that's actually relevant.
But I heard the Giano manages to be too big that it becomes uncomfortable.
Why not a large newer Huion.

>>6656450
The pen's buttons are entirely useless for drawing/painting but are pretty much a requirement when 3D modeling.

>>6661643
I want a non-display with the largest working area available and these are the only two that I know of besides the Intuos Pro Large (that's way too expensive). I have an Intuos Pro Medium that's seen better days and i'm finding it cramped working with a larger monitor.

>>6659789
You can livestream off an ipad, dumb dumb.

got a stand now my tablet is always at the edge of my desk seducing me in perfect angle to just put my stylus down on it and start sketching.... i dont know how much longer i'll be able to procrastinate like this....

So I used my xp pen 15.6 pro a bit today and got a couple scratches on the screen, now I see weird rainbow lines on that spot. Can this fucked up surface be fixed? Also, I've seen people recommend photodon as an alternative for screen protectors, for those who have tried it, is it worth it? I'm just bummed out because I barely got any use out of this tablet and that shitty scratch spot happened so easily without me even adding much pressure on the screen, I just want something that can last without shitting the bed in a month's worth of usage.

>>6662797
>buys non-wacom tablets
>complains when they end up being sub-par junk

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>6662831
Come again?

>>6662797
the rainbow lines are a product of the screen protector getting scratched instead of the screen

What do you recommend on a 1.2kish budget? I can spend more if necessary, I guess up to 1.5kish

>>6663259
Kamvas Pro 24

>>6663259
Wacom Cintiq 22, no doubt about it.

Probably a retarded question, but are the Galaxy S7/8 comfortable to use on PC as well? I was thinking about getting one for work drawing and using it as my at home tablet if it is good enough.

>>6663312
>on PC
do you mean as an extra display? technically with superdisplay you can, and it'll even keep some of the gesture functionality if you don't mind switching between the modes
but if you get the bigboy sizes they're great standalone tablets you don't need a PC for

>>6663323
Thanks. I have a cheap Huion tablet connected now as my PC tablet but I guess it ultimately doesn't matter if I can just slap CSP onto the tablet and upload to google drive.

>>6662831

>doesn't know what a screen protector is

woooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwww

>>6662797
it's the screen protector it happens with all of them I would change the pressure sensitivity of your pen so you don't have to press as hard to get max pressure
it'll save your wrist and your screen protector
ignore the braindead wacuck

>>6663259
memepad

Just a friendly reminder that if you are just starting out get the cheapest thing to work on and only when you get advanced or start making money off your hobby do you consider investing in better equipment.

>>6664046
I'd say also consider using something with decent size, I've used the intuos pro tablet and it made me miss the working space on the huion H610 despite being less responsive with the pen pressure.

>>6664046
Also don't get a screenless tablet

>>6664259
do*
screens are fucking memes

>>6659111
>sees crazy box house guy on the street every week
>crazy box guy kept shilling his box saying how all other boxes are commies invasion
>"Ew. Don't go near that street. There's a crazy guy shilling his box"
>"s-stOP beInG oBSeseD witH mE yOu coMmiEs!!"
lol
lmao even

>>6659837
Typical 2-in-1s are terrible for pure drawing experience. Good enough for taking notes. Also that's a 7th gen U series chip which came out in 2017 lol. Better get a new one.

>>6662165
I pretty much has a stand so that my tablet is permanently perched on my desk. Having the screen always on and CSP always open reduces the friction a lot.

Hello, do you know if it is normal that my drawings on paper and pencil have a better level than those I do on a tablet?

>>6656450
i like to disable all the buttons on my tablet and press them a bunch

>>6646379
i dropped some money on a cheap refurbished s7+, if all goes well what program should i use to cope with not having access to procreate

>>6665491
csp is free for 6 months on galaxy tablets

>>6665596
>start up and use for 6 months
>full reset to get another 6 months
Cab it work like that?

>>6664046
>start with a shitty cheap tablet that will make drawing feel like shit

>>6666729

Yeah, only children worry about buying cheap crap. Or 3rd worlders.

>>6665491
csp is basically the only program on android that works reliably enough for serious projects
infinitepainter is zippy and more intuitive and snappy like procreate, but it's buggy and the fag developers keep breaking it just so they can add facebook integration or some other californian shit. I've lost a few projects because it likes to crash and only autosaves during a crash 99% of the time. But man, free transform was zippy on that program, and the UI is pretty minimal, leaving you more space to draw.

csp takes some setting up but it's incredibly customisable considering it's a mobile app. More robust than even lots of programs you'd find on a desktop.

So I bought an XP-Pen Artist 13 2nd gen and one of those paper screen protectors. Did I don goofed since I installed it on top of the screen protector that came with the tablet? It kinda looks fuzzy when looking at white images, but then I can't remember how it looked before I added the new screen protector and it's a waste to remove the paper like screen protector, one costs around $20 cause I didn't buy it during a sale.

Is there any windows 2in1 that is actually viable? Ideally 12-14 inch

recently got my hands on an ipad 3 and managed to sideload an old version of procreate on it the other day
honestly not bad, the thing's old as dirt so of course it's not buttery smooth as i'm guessing later models are
it's a hassle transferring files without any cloud storage apps supporting it anymore though

>the only threads where being proud of getting a tablet that was originally released over a decade ago is seen as acceptable

just rename these threads Poorfag Cope General already

>>6660961
Ended up ordering the WH1409 V2 because it was on sale on Amazon. It's arriving later today. I hope it solves my wrist problem like I hope it would.

Are screen protectors on screenless tablets worth it?
using Intuos 5 and considering one

>>6670289
>screen protectors
>on screenless tablets
something doesn't add up
anyway just tape a piece of paper to your fucking tablet, you'll have more texture and you can carve into the paper with your stylus without worrying about scratching up the plastic surface

>>6665596
>>6667047
it's like 2.7 rating on google store. can I just pirate the apk?

>>6670734
>using this thread as the metric on what to use
>using google store ratings as a metric for value
mistakes are being made

>>6670289
yes, if you don't want to buy a new tablet once you scratched the old one up

if you like friction and texture, get a sheet of paper
if you like less friction, get a glossy laminating film, 250 micron thick (which is really stiff)
if you hate friction, get a glossy glass protector of the appropriate size

>>6667541
>crying wojack with expensive art supplies around him.jpeg

>>6671396

>>6671509
idk why but this always makes me laugh

I really like drawing with pencil and paper but sometimes pencil can be a bitch. Dark colors don't always want to be as dark as I want, and forget drawing white. Plus I want the conveniences digital art has, like if I need to make a torso slightly longer or shorter it's a quick two-five minute fix in digital while I might potentially have to just completely restart my paper drawing. Anybody have a good tactile+software feel combo for pencil fags like me?

>>6671616
i yoink it then my splurg go off

>>6671708
What?

Is there anything like procreate for Android, specifically how good the brushes are that isn't desktop based (eg Krita/CSP)

>>6671511
Because it's the reality of 90% of the board
Especially OP

>>6646379
is opentabletdriver a meme

>>6646379
Are there any android compatible macro keypads, or a way to bind keyboard shortcuts to a bluetooth controller? I'm enjoying my S8+'s portability, but working with touch gestures sometimes feels sluggish compared to my desktop setup.

>>6668419
Fuck, this tablet size is exactly right for my monitor and it's comfy to draw on. My only problem now is that I got so used to my Intuos Pro's dial for resizing my brushes that painting is clunkier with just the buttons. I could just get the hang of resizing my brushes this way or buy a separate controller. If this thing had a dial it would be perfect.

Thinking of switching from my tiny Cintiq 13hd that makes my back hurt to draw to a Huion 22 Plus. Is that model good enough or people tend to just skip to the 24 instead?

>>6673489
why not the cintiq 22
tell me how this thread of people that don't even draw convinced you that that wasn't an option

>>6673498
>why not the cintiq 22
it costs 10x times more

>>6673499
the non-pro cintiq 22 is $1000 USD and feels 10x better than any huion that's less than a thousand bucks

>>6673501
Non pro editions of any products are a scam. Plain and simple

>>6673501
You realize not everyone in 4chan is american, right.

>>6673502
are you talking about cintiq only or huion too? From what I looked up the Kamvas 22 PLUS version came after the pro was even released and it had better displays.

>>6673502
>>6673503
being retarded doesn't excuse your stupid retarded choices

we're better than this

>>6673509
What being retarded has to do with not being north american? Are you ill?

>>6673501
>>6673512
I totally disregard OP and you should too.

>>6673518
Yes I know this retarded has been spamming the same shit about Huion and XPen for 2 years, I'm hoping a real human comes and has a actual opinion about Huion 22 plus or something

>>6673521
It's not impossible, but the wacumguzzler always manage to derail this shit and drive good intentioned anons away.

I still wonder why he didn't got banned yet...

>>6673489
I've been using Kamvas 22+ (GS2202) since it released.

Overall I think there's enough screen space to work comfortably. The matte etched glass is on the smoother side of "paper feel" when compared to actual paper, but it's no deal breaker and I imagine any rougher would chew through nibs. The stand's satisfyingly articulate, the pen has some girth, a rubber grip and feels comfortable in my hand. My only nitpicks are the 1080p resolution and that the color settings might need tuning out the box.

I don't know how much better the pricier tablets feel, but I haven't felt a need to upgrade yet. If you're skeptical, maybe try it under a refund window and and return it if you don't like it.

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>>6673565
I guess I'll also mention this was a replacement for a Surface Pro 2017 (12.3in display), in case you were wondering.

>>6673576
>>6673565
while both of those are better than the trash we had to put up with a couple of decades ago, they're both fairly trash compared to what we have now

>>6673577
If it's not too much trouble, would you mind elaborating, maybe giving some examples? I'm open to trying new things.
Are there better options within a similar price range, or is there a lot to gain from spending more that isn't just higher res?

>>6673565
does it being 1080p bothers you at all?

I see some people complaining about it saying do just wasted the extra money on the 1400p version, but it's expensive as fuck to me + I also have a 27inch monitor that's 1080 and I have 0 problems with pixels different from most people I seen complaining too (tho I probably don't place it near me as most pc gaymers do)

>>6673521
With chinese brands it’s always a 50/50 coin toss on whether it arrives broken or not anon, that’s the problem. If you’re already going to spend a certain amount and don’t want it to go to waste you’re better off buying a Wacom or Xencelabs (soon) straight rather than trying your luck with the others.

>>6674124
I don't have the money to buy Wacom, cumguzzler, go away

my faggot ass piece of shit huion tablet randomly refuses to ctrl+z unless I press the buttom 20 times and I found absolutely no pattern to it, it just works when it wants to

regardless of when it happens, the green led that says a buttom was pressed still lights up, so I think it can't be just a weared out buttom I think
it never did this before
any fix?

>>6674347
I always found tablets buttons absolutely useless and always just used keyboards instead.
Maybe you can buy those very small ones for art if you dont want to use a keyboard

>>6674364
the tablet hotkeys are great
I would need to overextend my arm and press 2 buttoms just to ctrl z which is something I do 500 times a minute

Can you actually guess on which device, and with which software, is a piece of lineart drawn on, just by looking at a 100% magnification of it?
Like there's claims that SAI has the best line quality, or that the crapple pencil has inbuilt stabilization regardless of software used, so is it possible to detect what is used to draw the lineart?

>>6674454
>Can you actually guess on which device, and with which software, is a piece of lineart drawn on, just by looking at a 100% magnification of it?
No.
>Like there's claims that SAI has the best line quality, or that the crapple pencil has inbuilt stabilization regardless of software used, so is it possible to detect what is used to draw the lineart?
No. It's entirely on the artist's side of things and the feeling of the brush engines. Some like more apps/software/pens than others from a user experience but the end result is art regardless and you wouldn't be able to tell except maybe certain custom processing features unique to the program like gradients etc.

>>6674119
If you're used to 1080p, it might not be a problem at all for you.
For me, coming from >=1440p displays, this nitpick comes down to two things:

>Scaling of display elements
I work primarily in CSP. The display elements don't take up a terrible amount of space at the smallest settings, but after working on other, higher res devices I feel I could comfortably scale down further. My desktop's monitor is 1440p 27'', and its scaling at the same settings would be just right for me.
How this affects you depends on your choice of software and how your workspace is set up; I personally like to always have my palettes visible, but can use a shortcut to hide them if they're in the way.

>Sharpness of canvas when zoomed out
I'm no display expert but in my experience images on lower res displays images tend to lose sharpness more quickly when zoomed out. It can be subtle, and might be more noticeable if you're sitting elbow's length from the display or make heavy use of hard/aliased edges in your work. Overall not a huge deal for me as it doesn't really impede my workflow.

Overall I was in the market for a large, affordable display tablet for my desk and still feel I got my money's worth. Maybe if I did this long-term for a living independently and/or had a shitload of disposable income I'd go for some higher end 22-27in 4k display and that'd be the end of it for a long time, but for now I have no problem waiting for an upgrade at an attractive value. There's always the possibility that I got lucky with QC, so if you buy be mindful of that and get support ASAP if anything feels off.

just started getting into all this, cop or drop?

>>6674799
decent and relatively cheap starting point, yeah

>>6673489
lol nigga if you have back problems just drop the pen displays and use a regular tablet.
I just went back to my wacom intuos M because my Gaomon pen display stylus got wrecked. feels good not being hunched over a monitor.

>>6673489
I have a Huion 22 Plus, it's excellent imo. Its main downside is the resolution (only full HD) and the saturated colors out of the box. The latter can be fixed with a quick Google search, someone made a great Icc color profile
Pic related, ignore my duck im still a beginner. I had a Xpen deco v2 before, but it was weird because my monitor is 32" and with a pen tablet it feels like drawing with your mind

>>6672397
>Because it's the reality of 90% of the board
No, it's the reality of everyone who picks up drawing. Picrel is the dog shit I was drawing 11 years ago, but this month anon paid me 650$ for a dakimakura design. It does get better anons.

>>6673565
my problem with 22+ is terrible colors, it turns blue into aquamarine and neutral shades have reddish tint - no matter how hard I try calibrating it with x-rite or visually

and some people don't have that problem, I think they have another hardware revision or something

although I'm only using it for linework, I have another monitor for colors, so it's not that big of an issue

>>6674944
>Its main downside is the resolution (only full HD) and the saturated colors out of the box.
The reason for that is that Windows works in sRGB by default and the tablet has wide gamut. That's a Windows problem, it's the same on any wide gamut display. Instead of installing some profiles which likely aren't fit for your particular display, try utilities like Novideo sRGB, they do gamut conversion precisely (just don't use the internal sRGB option on the monitor). If you have AMD or Intel instead of NVidia, there are utilities for these cards too.

>>6675526
Based
I said that because anons just give up,they shouldn't do it.

Because of work I'm always driving and I'm gone for weeks at a time. I want a tablet that I can take with me that doesn't need to be hooked to a computer.
I'm thinking about getting an iPad but the thread recommendation for one is already 6 years old. I'm not worried about shilling out extra bux for something decent. Any ideas?

>>6675735
Ignore the OP and save up for a new iPad or whatever suits best for you

>>6675744
Thanks for responding. I never had an iPad before but I've owned other art tablets in the past. I currently have an XP Pen at home that I'd like 4 years old and it sort of a piece of shit, not to mention that it requires that it be hooked up to my PC. Is there a specific type of iPad that is better for artists? Do I just get the one with the widest screen?

>>6675756
Why do pictures of white women on the internet always have this neon orange/pink skin tone now?

>>6675756
Well,not considering the iPad Mini,10 inches or more should be enough for you

The size issue is more up to you and your budget

>>6675756
Ahh, I see milkies, I like.

If you’re ok with something last gen but still plenty powerful get an M1 IPad Pro 12.9 over the M2, with refurbished options they should be about 30% cheaper.

>>6675775
That too

>>6663394
The fact that you need a fucking screen protector for a drawing tablet is enough to stay the fuck away from that shit.
Literally wtf

>>6663312
Have s7+
It's amazing and desu you could use it standalone, wouldn't bother hooking it up to PC.

>>6671616
An apple pencil with paperlike protector might be what you'd like - procreate is also simple and intuitive so gr8 for digital newbies.
Locate an pple store or whatever and go try out procreate and the apple pencil.
Apart from that it's definetly wacom cintiq which is too expensive for somebody just starting out/dipping their toes

>>6655409
>>6655423
If you get a few years out of it then who tf cares in the end.
Use the time to focus on your drawing and put some aside each month so you can pick up something you want in a year or two

>>6649396
It's good price wise and has a good interface but the layer limits are pretty frustrating in some situations. For an app that's so lauded and renowned, the devs should quit jacking off and work on that issue since so many other graphic apps on the iPad don't have it like that.
It is missing some useful features (deleting data outside canvas bounds when deselecting, autosaves with no undos, no vector support, rudimentary animation setup...), but I won't deny it's incredibly useful. I just wish they would optimize it, even at this price.

>>6649339
Unfortunately it's hard to pirate anything on the iPadOS. I don't know about jailbreaking, but even sideloading has some annoyances unless you have a Developer account. I managed to sideload Procreate once since it's a one-time purchase app, but CSP has some weird set-ups in place where even the loaded .IPA files refuse to run properly.

>>6649782
It's a matter of convenience. The iPad is cheaper than most display tablets, you don't need a separate computer to draw and it is portable. Unfortunately the limitations will show in some small parts, which would make professional work more challenging.
I might need to try ASP. It appears to have some good features.

>>6665491
there's a procreate clone called hipaint
no idea if it's stable or not but you can always just try it out

>>6655409
Bought a PD1560 a few years back since it was cheap, and for the price it’s very good, only issues I have is lack of pen tilt but that’s on me, and slight discoloration when it comes to values.

Who gives a shit, if you don’t draw professionally it hardly matters.

Plus side is it’s cheap, so you can buy alternative ones and not have wasted a ton on it.

Are there any gloves like this that aren't made of material that feels horrible?

>>6676335
yes it's called the skin

>>6676335
a wrist brace

Does anyone know where to buy a separate dial or knob that can be used to resize brushes? I don't really want to have to buy an entire controller since my tablet already has shortcut keys.

>>6676335
Look up the DokiWear glove. I've had it for a long time and it's a step up from these cheaper drawing gloves. Or make your own by modifying a cheap glove of any material you like.

>>6676335
regular cotton gloves? they are 1€ kek
I use them on traditional because I don't like fingerprints on my watercolors.

>>6676551
If you have a joycon you can use that but that's not a dial. You can get some random dials for like $20. Razer has some but are more expensive obviously.

>>6646379
What about Xiaomi tablets for poorfags such as me?

Is the s6 lite a good budget buy?

I still use my wacom cth 460 from the 2000 or something. I just want to buy something similar but a bit better since I fear that my baby might die this year.

Also just posting a sketch from it

>>6676812
soul

>>6676551
To be specific i'm looking for a single dial similar to what Lack has here between the tablet and his one-handed keypad. The closest thing I could find is the Surface dial but that's way too expensive.
>>6676741
The joycon might be a good idea. Where can I find these $20 dials? On ebay or Aliexpress? I tried on amazon and all I see are pricey volume dials that I don't think are programmable.

>>6676802
>>6676794
you won't get Procreate so no.
I got my Ipad 6thgen used apple pencil and for like 320€

>>6677218
>you won't get Procreate so no.
there's a literal procreate clone on android now so there's no real reason to give apple any money
unless you're already ballsdeep in their "eco system"

>>6646379
Just bought a huion inspiroy 2 (2023 model) for 70$. Was it a good purchase? The wacom intous/one were much smaller then the huion so I didn't consider them worth it

I got a Kamvas 24 plus, installed the drivers and calibrated, but it lags like hell on CSP and on top of that the trait is like 3cm away from where I touch with the pen.
It's fine on paint so I don't think it's calibration issues.
I have a good pc so that shouldn't be the issues, what the hell is going on

>>6676551
plenty of separate knobs on aliexpress/amazon, they're cheap

>>6676827
On aliexpress I believe

>>6677580
Reinstall CSP. If you had other tablet drivers installed previously remove them as well. Windows or Mac? Also if all that doesn't work check pressure curves of both the tablet driver and CSP together with stabilisation.

If all that fails congrats you got a lemon. Why didn't you just get a Wacum anon?

>>6678332
>Why didn't you just get a Wacum anon?
he probably didn't want to spend triple the money on essentially the same product

Anybody who owns a Wacom one, how do they like it?
I'm not planning on making money via commission or getting "really good". Just a high beginner/low intermediate level artist that wants to improve my drawings to "tolerable". I just like to doodle or draw slightly horny shit to relax, and I'm getting sick of the shortcomings of both mouse drawing and pencil and paper. Even with the current 30% sale on Amazon that's pretty much the max I'm willing to spend on hobby-level art. I've messed around a decent bit on Krita so I'm fairly comfortable with that software.

>>6678832
>essentially the same

literal nobody thinks this, why gaslight anon? Is it because you’re poor? You being poor doesn’t make things that are better stop being better

>>6679164
>be wacom schizo nigger
>act like your chink made screen that has the name of a japanese company on it is better than some other chink made screen that has the name of a chink company on it
you do it for free too which is even sadder than a broken chink tablet
and yes I'm poor which is why I spent 1.5k on a fucking gpu alone you stupid fucking useless nigger

>>6679112
If it's not for work purposes and you're not recouping the money you spent on a wacom tablet artistically then yeah, I suggest the cheaper alternatives. Wacom are solid and last a long time so you get your money's worth in the long run. But honestly if you're asking this question then you already think it's too much money upfront.

>>6679340
But don't chinesium tablets have shitty software issues? I just want to improve my drawing experience for shitposts and smut, I've used mouse for over 2 years now and I'm at my patience limit

>>6679381
They can do, but wacom does that too. I can't recall the number of times the driver did not play well with windows or my art programs and i've had to turn wacon services on and off. The risk isn't the same as it used to from years ago, at least from my personal experience. Look up recent reviews, only buy the latest-ish iterations of said chink tablets, buy from amazon so returns are quick if you get a physically defective product. Look, i'm not saying don't buy a wacom, i'm saying you can decide whether to pay for something slightly cheaper now or if you want to drop money for something standard and which is viable for you financially. Since you're just doing it as a hobby, either choice is extremely low stakes since if something fails on you it's not like dying to get it replaced right away or is at any cost to your livelihood. Also keep in mind you're new to digital art so you don't need the latest and greatest 32 inch Cintiq Pro. You can probably buy a smaller display tablet or even a non-display that's even cheaper on either side.

>scratched a new tablet
bruh, shoud've used it with paper

>>6676819
Thanks senpai.
So . . . do you know any wacom bamboo that are similar to the cth series. I mean yeah, I appreciate the fancy screen tablet ones but I do kind of like to stick with something I am familiar with if not a bit upgraded.

>>6679418
I was just planning on getting the Wacom One model and a paperlike screen protector for it since it has it's on sale for $320 and seems pretty good in video demonstrations. My desk is small anyway so it's not like I can even fit a huge tablet

>>6679425
It uses mobile tech, the pens suck. Get a Cintiq or just get any Wacom based mobile screen tablet.

>>6679640
Yeah I might just stay consistent with my principles of not cheaping out and scrimp and save for the Cintiq, even if it does cost a lot more. That glass screen, ability to use a stand and superior pen are pretty important to me. In the meanwhile, guess I gotta draw furries on paper like my proud ancestors did.

2021 HUION KAMVAS 12

2020 HUION Kamvas 13

I tried both of these the last couple years and both sent back each year. And I got the drawing tablet buy bug again. I don't want to try chinese crap again. I just want a realistic as possible pen and paper experience. What do I need to buy for this?

>>6679713
>realistic as possible pen and paper experience
You'll only get the usual shitposters crying about this fact, but no joke the Cintiq Pro 27 is the only tablet that has managed to make me not miss paper and pencil. Literally the only tablet that has finally managed to make the digital disconnect unnoticable.

>>6679730
Is the cintiq 16 close enough to that ? Because I'm a day a way from purchasing it.

>>6679730
my laptop doesn't support 4k is the cintiq pro still worth it?

>>6679742
I did work on the non-pro Cintiq 22 for a couple years after my pro-24 died (was waiting for an update to the hardware before buying a replacement) and the non-pro 22 / 16 are actually very good devices. Parallax around the edges / corners is bad but for drawing they're very accurate and good.

>>6679112
>>6679742
If the two of you don't mind second-hand, search for Cintiq 16 listings, over here they usually sell for $350-450. Rather than buying a Wacom One or the 16 for new. Just make sure the seller lets you test before buying.

>>6653977
what about the screen scratch

>>6679713
sent my kamvas back as well basically because of the antiglare sparkle making it really hard to work with light colors.
replaced it with a wacom pro 27 and can say that it has pretty much nothing to cope about

HELL YEAH, I just won an ebay auction for a sealed Wacom cintiq 16, only paid $276+tip for shipping
Bye bye pencil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEBYjvmCohY

>>6680073
grats, that sounds like a steal

>>6680691
Now I gotta anxiously wait and NOT DRAW because I want to save my ideas for the tablet. I'll probably re-draw older stuff first so I can just trace over while I get use to Krita's stylus function

I got a Surface Pro 4 as a gift. How is it for drawing?

do longer tip nibs like top one exist for wacom pro pen 2?
reason: i use extremely high pressure, but i want to use tilt too, but it is impossible with the small nib

>>6682116
You got it without paying money for it yet you aren't able to just test it yourself?

>>6682140
Just wanted to know if someone had any experience with it. I already have a Galaxy tab s7 I dunno if the surface 4 might have any advantages.

>>6682163
It's a full desktop environment, that's the advantage. Some people swear by them.

>>6680073
>Wacom cintiq 16
Do you still need a computer separately to use it?
Online you see them around like 600.

>>6682798
Pretty sure you do, it has three cords one for power, one USB for data and one HDMI for display. I hope it doesn't make my laptop laggy, lol

>>6682116
Not bad, main downside is the pen being very heavy handed, takes a bit to get used to and can be a little painful after a long session. I had no other issues with the pen besides that. They're also very susceptible to developing display issues (flickergate) so keep it cool to reduce that. Color accuracy is insane and the display looks amazing in general, I'd say this is the main benefit.

t. used one for five years.

did anyone saw the new Xp-pen tablets?

https://www.xp-pen.com/product/deco-pro-gen-2-series.html

It reminds me the Intuos 3 and ngl i might buy it ( the biggest version)

they also gonna release a 1920x1200 14" pen display.

>>6646382
>connected to a shitty laptop
>the latency and polling issues must be this tablet's fault
makes you do a big think

Imma gonna test some XP-Pen tablets as they have a booth at a local event tomorrow

What do you want to know anons?

Friend's offering to get me an art tablet for my birthday. We've been talking between the Surface Pro and the iPad, but the iPad is expensive as fuck, and apparently the Pro has wobble issues. I already own CSP, but I don't want to pay a sub for it. I was leaning towards the Surface for its PC functionality, but the pen wobble is rough.
This thread seems to like the Galaxy, but I've never really heard anyone talk about it. Is it really a good alternative, or should I just go for the iPad since it's a gift?

>>6646379
Hey bros, should I get the 22" Cintiq or the Kamvas 22 Plus?

>>6684275
tell me about their color calibrations

>>6646379
>the color won't callibrate for the zilliont's time
>there are absoluteloy 0 FUCKING TUTORIALS
>CANT FIX FUCKED UP COLOR WITH PROGRAMS BECAUSE THE PIECE OF SHIT AUTOADJUSTS
>CONTRAST IS ALL OVER THE PLACE
FUCK HUION TABLETS FUCK HUION TABLETS
FUCK HUION TABLETS
FUCK HUION TABLETS
FUCK HUION TABLETS
FUCK HUION TABLETS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>6684480
ipads don't have this problem

>>6684672
>smooth screen protector fucks line quality
>paper screen protector eats pencil
>no desktop software
>Nib is fat as shit, cant see when trying to do thin lineart

>is essentially a 1000 dollar sketchbook

At the end of the day, nothing comes close to having just a screenless tablet, keyboard and pc no matter how hard you try

hey I have an experiment I want others to try
>get a constant brush with no smoothing or pressure or whatever
>turn off stabilizers
>take your smartphone, turn it off, place it on the tablet
>trace around it
>turn smartphone back on, put some type of heavy network activity like a twitch stream on it
>trace around it again
>post results

this is what I got with an xp-pen

>>6684842
take your meds

>>6684680
But the advertising I watched said screen tablets are essential for professional art and will bring life to my creativity

>>6684850
Mate it's just an attempt to test to see how resilient different tablets are to local EM noise after noticing one of my older tablets doesn't like sitting on my laptop keyboard

>>6646379
>Why you should not trust youtube shills
Then he posts shit like this >>6646382
right after. And we are half way to 2024 now.

Meanwhile companies who own both xp pen and xencelabs are innovating

>>6684475
So the booth was actually operated by a vendor that brings in other brands as well, (Ugee, Huion, etc) and I got to spend like 5 minutes with the Xencelabs 24 as well as the XP-Pen 24 (idk what model). Without further ado some comparison from someone who draws on a Cintiq 16;
>Xp-Pen
Display is ok. Good if you like glossy, their coating is light and the colors are vibrant. Color calibration is normal, there are some deviations but I don't think it's anything you can't fix with a Spyder etc. Parallax is little or non-existent compared to Cintiq 16. Hatch lines work as intended, only the calligraphy pen (in CSP) doesn't work like intended (lack of rotation I guess). Personally exceeded my expectation.
>Xencelabs 24
This one was a mixed bag. Since I couldn't check the driver and device settings and the only test program was Medibang (vs CSP for the XP-Pen) I'll try to stay neutral but it was really underwhelming? The anti glare coating was either too strong or the brightness/gamma/contrast setting was fucked; the colors are really dull even compared to the Cintiq 16 that has subpar colors. Drawing was just... alright? Nothing extraordinary, but it does come with a few pens and the shortcut remote. No parallax or similar to the XP-Pen, so there's that.

The styluses from both brands are lighter that the Cintiq's, so you'll probably have to fiddle with the pressure curve and stabilisation if you like heavier styluses. Tbh my disappointment was that despite the big sizes of both tablets, I ended up drawing in a corner in the size of the Cintiq's and still end up zooming a lot lol. Maybe it's something you get used to in time. The only thing I can't say for certain is the longevity of all these brands but the drawing experience has definitely caught up 98% to Wacom's (sans the calligraphy pen, but I'm probably like the only 3 people in the world that uses it). I may go again tomorrow to test if I can substitute it with tilt rotation.

>>6646379
I'm pondering buying a galaxy tab s8+... Any tips/ thoughts/ feelings/experiences? I'm really hesitant when it comes to buying shit

as fun as procreate is god i fucking miss clip studio so fucking bad dude.
i've used this thing for 2 years now and while i do professional work on it i want to use clip studio again. not being able to fuck around with a mouse on my ipad fucking STINGS.
truthfully considering going balls deep with a cintiq pro 24 and just calling it a day. i have reason for it since i do art professionally now but god FUCK this price sucks DICK, 2200 is so fucking steep it's in striking range of how much it cost to build my PC

>>6679730
I feel like this is the true redpill, I'm very anal about parallax and pen lag, and I tried a few cintiqs at a convention and they all felt inferior to the iPad pro in that regard.
That is until I got to the pro 27, it was amazing, just in its own level to say the least. it must be the 120hz because all the other cintiqs felt sluggish compared to the iPad pro. Really fucking annoying cause it's inaffordable and massive, why haven't they made a smaller 120hz screen tablet yet?? I'm hesitant on getting the 22/16 pro because of this, I think I'll prefer the iPad pro even with its shit OS just cause they wont match the responsiveness.

thoughts on buying used from ebay? thinking of upgrading my Huion Kamvas to a Cintiq but I always hate the idea of buying used electronics because I fear of something shady happening

>>6646379
I'm really struggling to decide between buying a Samsung Galaxy Tab S8+ and a 2nd Gen iPad Pro. Refurbished, used, or whatever the iPad would be almost half the price of the Samsung tablet, which I didn't expect at all. I wouldn't have guessed apple would be the cheaper option here, but I also have a general unfounded distrust against apple products, and I'm afraid I won't have good interconnectivity between that thing and my other devices like my laptop or PC. On the other hand, a lot of people seem to say that the iPad is the best mobile tablet for drawing

>>6687388
I also have a general unfounded distrust against apple products,

you're fucking retarded and deserve to waste your money on a galaxy tab then
piece of garbage that barely functions is great for you, a piece of garbage that barely functions and in all likelihood will never draw on whatever you buy anyways

>>6687414
retard

>>6687388
>the iPad is the best mobile tablet for drawing
this is just normalfag thinking, "bro just buy an iphone it just werks and I have all my apps, accounts and files tied to their shitty proprietary closed environment anyway!"
once you get trapped it takes concentrated effort to unfuck yourself of their fist up your ass
in this case it really just depends on if you wanna spend the extra money or not, both are great besides the fact that one is >apple

>>6685818
It's the forced v-sync, if you dun like it just go back to Windows 7 and turn Aero off, if you are on a Mac then you're out of luck unless it's an old Mac Pro 5.1, then you can disable it. V-sync on a 60Hz display is quite laggy.

>>6686992
I'm on the same boat, wanted to get a used Cintiq but I know that at least one of these things will happen:
1) scratched with pits where the nib get stuck when drawing
2) LCD issues, flickering, dead pixels, uniformity issues,
3) work good for a few days then it goes bad
4) pen registering issues like wobbling or skipping where the issue is with the tablet itself and not the pen stylus

Man, after testing the Xencelab 24 now I'm thinking of just getting the Cintiq 22. Can Wacom just release a QHD update to it kek I don't need the bigger 24 inch size or features just a slightly bigger work area than my 16

>>6687739
>proprietary closed environment
It's a fucking drawing tablet, you're using it to draw and not ricing it to post on /g/

>Been waiting for a 120Hz drawing display that wont cost like a jew's kidney from either XP-Pen or Huion alternative
>Huion came up with Surface Pro clone
>XP-Pen came up with another 2k display on a 14" screen and 'muh 16k pressure' that NOBODY would be able to tell
>Left with choosing standalone tablets like the iPad or Sammy tablets.

Fuck, guess you win this time huh wacumfag?

>It's a 27" display
Fuck that's way too big for my use case. Guess I'll get an iPad

>>6646379
>>6688076
how much better are ipads than Samsung Galaxy tabs?

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