/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6666318
a lot of people get into art because they want to feel unique and superior and they think art will help with that, same reason why so many artists are obsessed with social media attention, they only draw/paint to craft a unique image in the minds of others that grants them attention and praise

just kidding lol they probably just want a unique style that'll help people differentiate between them and others, so that they get more recognition and feel special

They think if they have a unique art style, random anime studios, video game studios, design studios will flock to them hiring them because their art style is one of a kind.

>>6666318
Identity crisis, obsession with validation. I'm unique I'm recognizable I'm memorable I'm different I'm not like everyone else. Notice me, remember me, how dare you copy me.
Art style comes naturally from collecting and refining your ideals. Just chill and keep studying all kinds of different art for more refined results. Forcing it makes for gay amateur slop

that just looks like the artstyle of every twitter artist with pronouns in bio

>>6666330
That's what I was thinking.
>How I found my gender through fallout: new vegas

>>6666318
beginners think they can skip fundies if they stick to a "style".
Don't have to study anatomy if you just draw cartoons.

>>6666328
That's the other thing, is that hyperfocusing on an art style is pointless because it will change as you mature. Drawing what you want and doing it well is how signatures come, since habits often define art styles.

>>6666358
Forcing it early also gives you a worse crisis later when you realize you have to leave your stupid comfort zone you cornered yourself into if you want to improve. Treating yourself like a recognizable product brand to market is the current neurosis.

>>6666318
>How I found my art style
By dumpster diving?

>>6666318
So how DID they/them find their art style? Don't keep us in suspense.

THERE ARE ONLY TWO ARTSTYLES:

SOVL and SOVLLESS

Anything else is globohomo propaganda.

>>6666318
/Beg/ trap. Only time you need a style is if you're working on a project and people like this don't get it

>>6666318
I get asked "how did you get your art style?" sometimes and have no idea how you're supposed to answer that. If you want to draw like me just copy me?

>>6666318
It's weird they would use that particular image out of all the other drawings they've done. Looking through most of their art, it's the standard type of art you would expect from a woman who also has a good understanding of attractiveness. I'm gonna remind you all that this person is more skilled than you, has more appeal than you do, and is ultimately more successful and happier than all of you. You can choose to stay here and rot or not.

>>6666484
>good understanding of attractiveness
>caterpillar eyebrows
>prolapsed anus lips
>some kind of mutt
disgusting, truly art by a modern woman.
and there were better portraits than this in my public high school art class, nice try though

>>6666318
I looked at her videos, it’s interesting how her art and herself came from looking FtM to looking MtF when she developed more feminine tastes.

>>6666318
>"my" artsyle
>generic twittumblr cancer

>>6666318
Because getting hired or getting an audience is 90% taste.
Is it possible to have an art style so bad or boring that no one likes your art and you never get work? The answer is yes.

Your art is going to say a lot about you and what you want to communicate, and if your style doesn't match that it's going to look poorly thought out.
No one gets a job at a studio and is then told to do what they want and ignore the project's style and art direction.
Just because beginners and teenagers are obsessed with it for validation it doesn't mean it's not important.

>>6666318
One aspect of working professionally is having a "brand" of sorts, so having people recognise your art as uniquely yours greatly helps with that.
Why should an artist want a "brand"? makes them stand out so that clients will be more likely to think of said artist; makes people want merch with their stuff; because your work stands out and people are more likely to notice it, it acts as a sort of free publicity; it's also just my speculation, but I think your fan base gets more dedicated if you have a distinguishable style too, which only helps with sales and everything else.

All this on top of what everyone else pointed out; people want to feel unique. Art is something very personal and individual to people, and just like how we hate the idea of not standing out in a crowd, the same can be said for people's work.

All this said, "styles" can be as much as a handicap as simply not being able to draw well, as it is most likely a symptom of habit - have a shitty artstyle? You'll likely need to relearn how to draw to get rid of those nasty habits.

>>6666318
tumblr nose eugh

>>6666318
because since the invention of social media society revolves around being famous and recognizable. it's not only the ultimate way to social status and a lucky ticket from poverty, it is also the only way for some to feel their own identity in the modern anthill dystopia. we seek our own uniqueness, yet we crave for companionship and community. this is why often you find this paradox of people wanting to be unique and different, but looking the same and doing the same things. like the OP post, she has her "own style" but this style also falls into a very specific category of people who draw the same. she has some amount of identity and some amount of community resulting in this monstrous abomination of cope. this is the consequences of industrial revolution btw.

>>6666318
its not just artist. entire nations have their own culture, style, and flavor. its pretty obvious why we want it, its a nice thing to have, and its unpleasant to be generic.

>>6666318
I don't give a flying fuck. I don't have a style, I just copy artists I like and study.

>>6666484
>they
bro it's a one person. singular

>>6666318
allows for parasocial feeding off of your fans

>>6666599
yawn

>>6666318
its okay she seems to mostly focus on costume design anyways

>>6666318
PRO ARTIST HERE: you will always be a 2nd rate copy of someone else without "style" you can even become a 2nd rate of of your past self. This is what people do not understand, and this is why they desire an art style.

>>6666489
>doesn't like full eyebrows
pleb

>>6666607
Yeah I guess you're correct, but I don't get what the point is. Is correcting my use of the word "they" and own to you? I wasn't trying to make a point with that, that's just how I learned how to talk and it comes out naturally. People never had a problem with it until the culture war got popular. Trying to get me to stop using the singular they is the same thing as a tranny forcing me to use their weird pronouns.

>>6666760
wanting other pronouns instead of they plays into the trannies, who want the "ask for pronouns before talking" thing to be mainstream.

>>6666766
I'm saying it's the same thing because it's a politically-motivated control of language.

>>6666607
>>6666766
>>6666771
You have no fucking clue how English grammar works.
You are doing the same thing you are accusing others of, changing language for political reasons.
Go read a fucking book.

>>6666775
You can clearly tell this person is female. It has nothing to do with "English grammar". It's just somebody being pompous and annoying.

>>6666318
Artstyles are a meme. Just about everyone that's semi decent at drawing has an artstyle that tells them apart, some less similar than others.

The only good video on art styles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7je1tope_yQ

>>6666775
They how is "they" supposed to work, wise guy?

>>6666777
You will never feel the touch of a woman.

>>6666791
If you saw an umbrella on the street you would say "somebody left their umbrella on the street".
See, was that really so hard?

>>6666801
That's exactly what I would say. How does mean I don't have a clue how English grammar works?

>>6666801
I would say "hey a free umbrella"

>>6666318
I have a recognizable artstyle now lol. People comm me often and if they get reposted on r34/nhentai/danbooru people would recognize them. Some peeps would comm me because of that artstyle, which is a nice compliment I'll take it.

>>6666893
Also never really 'searched' for an artstyle. It's just me trying bunch of shit out and then liking how some methods turned out and kept honing on those. A few years later, bam, 'artstyle'. It's really just 'I like to draw this way because. it' s more convenient for me'

>>6666318
you'd best sticking with the artstyle you have than try to imitate other artist which many fails to, also it makes you unique in a community of artist

>>6666318
Because an art style means that they are an recognizable individual, and those two thing are what many people crave in this social media environment

>>6666321
Actually TRUE

you'll never seen anyone more desperate for validation and uniqueness than your average twitter/youtube artist, for all the shit /ic/ and tableguy get at least they make stuff for themselves and dont care about followers

I've been digging through a box of truly ancient artwork of mine,stuff from early high school,and my characters still carry their likenesses to this day,but I have been depicting them gradually more realistically. Historians could pinpoint the age I was by the degree of complexity the rendering takes,if I spawn any legacy worthy of documentation. But it's all "me",a recognizable look,and possibly even the language stylings to each character is there,as is the quality of thought that prompted them to say such things. I am experimenting with drawing these two characters in pencil, rendering hair over medium long fur,and what started as a portrait grew into a comic. I am still feeling out pencil drawing, and my style has metamorphosed from a cartoony simplicity to...this. And it will continue to. But it will still be Me.

>>6666925
>tableguy get at least they make stuff for themselves and dont care about followers
Sure thing >>/ic/thread/S6544922

>>6666318
honestly your gallery just looks like dogshit if there’s no continuity between post. It’s better to have a portfolio that has a section dedicated to showcasing your artistic range bc varying too much on social media just kills your interaction and makes retard beglets accuse you of tracing

Style is what happens when you have preferences. A lot of anons are weirdly bitter. Draw what you want to see, and a style will emerge.

>>6666760
>>6666775
"bros"... everyone here except you know the artist in the OP pic is female. please stop pretending like "they" is used as a proper grammar

>>6666993
That's different from deliberately trying to force an art style onto yourself, which is what people refer to when they're "searching" for an art style.

>>6666318
>MUH ARTSYTLE
This is why westernoids can't do anime

>that thumbnail
It reeks of Tumblr

>>6666318
>that video thumbnail Tumblr artstyle
ngmi

>>6666318
I hate Tumblr dykes so much. I wish death upon all Tumblr dykes.

>>6667011
Yeah I know that's a woman. It's not "proper", but languages come in many dialects where certain words are used or pronounced in ways that go against what's officially accepted. Not everyone uses the singular they, but many other people use it instinctively and I don't see why that needs to be a point of contention.

>>6666775
Kill yourself faggot

>>6667349
All that rage over a single word.

>>6667349
cope and seethe trannoid

>>6666318
because they're noobs

>>6667336
sure "bro"

>>6666666

>>6666318
It's a westoid thing. They think it counts as "soul" but in reality they're disrespecting the foundation of art laid down by past masters.

>yet another thread that goes off topic because of trannies

>>6667301
>manga and anime artists work themselves like slaves, day in and day out. When they have deadlines they get 3 hours of sleep, push friends away and don't see their families.
>Art becomes their life
That is the reason they are so good at drawing. I hate to say it, but its that simple. IF a westerner were to be worked that hard in a studio the company would literally get sued.
I also agree with the argument in the image, but to a lesser extent. What makes them so good is their effort to be so. I feel like this really cheapens the suffering they go through for their craft.

Who are the greatest manga artists of all time?

>>6666789
I wouldnt take advice from someone who has such unappealing art himself

>>6666318
Imagine drawing this thing & thinking it looks good. Tumblrinas on suicide watch kek

>>6667588
They can draw realistically, its their purposeful art style, see >>6666484

>>6666318
Not particularly topic related but based on OP pic "you just know"
>finds le style
>style is to be another Tumblr fag
>likely has pronouns in bio
>later says they're transitioning
almost see this everytime something is "trending"

>>6666484
>>6667598
>Your run of the mill front view profile e-girl shot
I can watch paint dry and conjure more interesting shapes out of the textured wall.

>>6667588
They dont draw things to make them look good
They draw to "represent" minority groups. Because their art prof told them art history is full of white cishet man who are problematic so they think they're being progressive and making a statement because that's what art in 21st century is all about.

since everyone ITT is autistic, the real reason isn't necessarily due to le social media clout. now, more than ever, it's easier to connect with other artists and get exposed to thousands of different styles and skill levels. figuring out your style isn't just for the people who want to monetize their work their and get a ton of likes - more often than not the (usually) young artists who obsess over the idea don't care that much about the clout, it's just a sign of an accomplished and developed artist. when people think "someone good at art" they envision someone with a unique and recognizable style, someone who can take the fundies and do whatever they want with them. it means that you've figured yourself out and have a strong sense of identity. in an era where everyone is looking up to someone else, being recognizable can mean a lot to someone (especially if all their friends and oomfies have already gotten there) even if they don't have the cynical worldview that you're immediately assigning to them

>>6670292
I don't get why they wouldn't mix all the things they love about other artists together along with their personal preferences to get the style they want. Why are there so many videos on how to get your own unique style, through my many years of art I never once thought about my particular style, just what's appealing and what's not.

>>6670303
Because what you like might not fit into the industry, and some people probably feel like their taste is not good enough, or needs to be changed to be more appealing

they are teenagers and want to be unique

>>6666318
>Why are some people so obsessed with having an "art style"?
Because the alternatives are:
1) just copying reality
2) just copying someone else's style

>>6667301
>This is why westernoids can't do anime
Except basically every manga artist has its own specific and well recognizable style.

>>6666318
Because it's all fishes screaming "me" while each enters a dual over which "me" is stronger.
They all end up saying the exact same thing, and therefor, usually don't go far.

I prefer the style I work with to say - "Location" "Sensation", "Experience", "Ambient"... I want it to deliver a message, because I know I am not interesting.

I end up with a style that's similar to other styles that portray a similar tone, share a language and appreciation to a vibe... And since I give it a local voice and tone, it feels more like a world than just another fish that screams "me".

Picking a style should be used as a medium to deliver something... Like, there's a guy doing animations in GZDoom that ends up delivering some of the most entertaining things I seen in a while.
The style is just doom and video games memes, but, it ends up it's own work of art with a world, narrative, characters and "feel".

The whole "unique" is the same as the emo-wars, the gender-wars, the expression of nothing by babies that only know how to scream, but have no idea what they scream about.
They just want the global mother to breastfeed them with attention rather than for them to actually deliver something to the world itself.

>>6666801
If I saw a tranny on the street I would say, "he's pretty ugly"

>>6666318
because they have nothing to say. literal style over any substance

>>6670481 this anon is right. the art style should not be an anchor that you carry everywhere, it should server the purpose of the artwork being created.
i never even tried to "find my artstyle" or gave it much thought but after seeing this thread i realized that i actually have one. everyone has an art style because everyone will default to certain ways of drawing certain things. some are more evident than others. a personal art style is just a fancy way of talking about all the baggage that we collect as artists, the good and bad. that's why beg shitters will often claim that their shitty way of drawing is just their style. in a way, they are right. that's why "having an art style" is not necessarily something that you want to "find" early on because it can limit your learning process.

>>6670471
Chances are ur style have already been done by someone else. My literature prof once said there are only around 20 originally written novels in the world. I'd imagine that's probably also true for the arts.

>>6666318
I think is less about the art itself and more about building a brand around you, which is dumb because you close yourself to improvement through experimentation.

You'll have a style even if you just try to copy somebody else.

>>6666318

Sure they have a certain style of drawing things, but artstyles are something you can’t steal, so you can’t exactly have one *specifically*. All artstyles are just a bunch of other artstyles someone has seen before.

Say you like the way someone draws a nose, and you want to apply it to your art. That persons artstyle is now part of yours. See what I mean?

>>6671408
>steals old masters style and tricks experts and museums into making him a millionaire
nothing personnel kid

>>6666318
I don't know. I don't understand it either.

>>6666318
I see no artstyle in the thumbnail

Having one style is boring

>>6666957
What? Tableguy makes stuff that's obviously not meant for mass appeal, or any appeal other than himself honestly

Most of the time style is a cope, people don't want to learn the fundamentals so they say realistic = boring and just comfort zone the same shapes and poses over and over.

>>6666925
Tableguy is the "I'm not like the other girls" of online art lol. He'll follow every trend happening on Twitter, and sure he'll make his weird shit out of it, but he's not following his own path he depends on what's popular.

>>6666318
A desire to have a memorable and recognisable art that’s also irreplaceable and in all honesty she probably repeating what others have said in the art communities she’s in.
Other anons are nigh very cynical about it

>>6666318
So they can draw to most grotesque of trannies

>>6666318
i think artstyle should be a culmination of what you practiced, learned, what you like to create, express and how you like to do it.

>>6674435
perfect for u then

>>6666318
That artist is literally just imitating twitter/tumblr tranny art. Which makes sense considering "finding your art style" implies you are imitating something.

I love this video, I don't know what people here think of this guy or even know him
https://youtu.be/5FDT5XkaZ-s

>>6669989
>Because their art prof told them art history is full of white cishet man who are problematic
And that's what it is. The more you learn about female artists the more you discover you were totally ignorant. And it's kinda the same feeling when you learn about ancient art from culture all around the world.
And I state this while being a graduated art student and an avid exhibition visitor.

>>6666771
>>6666775
There is no singular they when referring to one person nigger. You're retarded. They isn't a pronoun to refer to one person

>>6666775
>>6666801
That's referring to an unknown person. If I can see someone. It's not a they. Faggot

>>6667598
She can draw realistically

>>6675345
>>6675346
An alive and healthy language is an evolving one.

>>6675366
A language that caters to the mentally ill is fucking dead. There's no evolution

>>6675863
You should read some opinions about the evolutions of languages from some centuries ago. It's pretty much the same as the one you posted. But would you say that the daily language you and your parents are using is a degenerate one? Would you say the language spoken by your elders during the early XXth century is a degenerate one?
I don't think so.
An alive and healthy language is a spoken one. A spoken language is evoluting. Deal with it.

>>6666318
>Tumblr Nose

>>6671230
I'm kid Parkinson's. no one has my style

>>6675310
The more I learn about female artists the more I appreciate the male ones.
>art graduate
Maybe that's why u were totally ignorant, living inside a bubble

>>6669984
>front view profile

>>6666318
oh my fucking god that looks especially horrible I feel lke im going to fucking vomit euuughhhh

>>6678167
>living inside a bubble
You seem to fantasize about what art schools truely are. Plus "art school" is some vague term I used but I wes not graduated from a fine arts school.
>the more I appreciate the male ones.
You seem to like ideology more than art then.

>>6678232
I'm high and I hate this picture

>>6678167
>"The more I learn about female artists the more I appreciate the male ones."
>Anon doesn't appreciate Grace Albee
>NGMI

most of you guys are the same. forever tweaking style randomly until you find something to call your own. your favorite manga/anime artists are the same too.

>>6669989
That's the problem. Such art is driven by ideology, not aesthetics.

>>6679296
>your favorite manga/anime artists are the same too.
No they aren't, Tumblr dyke. Japanese make art based on aesthetics. You Tumblr hacks make art based on ideology & that's why your art is shit. No one wants to see fat ugly raceswapped characters because you think MUH ANIME CHARACTER ARE TOO WHITE.

You're entire western ideology are toxic to the rest of world that embraces beauty. So glad your permbeg tier Tumblr dykes are gonna get the boot with AI.

>>6666325
>>6666318

In reality you need to understand art enough to be able to work in multiple different styles. Maybe if you work in visual development you can be more creative with "style", but even then you need to be able to adapt.

I think it's more valuable to think of style in terms of project by project. Having a favored/ personal style is normal and perfectly fine, but this weird obsession over it is strange.

>>6666357
I think this is very much true for a lot of people. That conscious or not, they realize that as soon as they figure out how to draw in a way that has, to them, a decent amount of appeal. they just keep drawing like that over and over, never pushing to understand the form any more than they already do.

>>6679484
>Tumblr dyke
>raceswapped characters
nope. never even set out a line to draw a PoC nor fan art/"OC." to me you're both the same kind of people. to you people, style is good so long as it's entertaining (to people who watch anime, cartoons, etc) and that you can call it our own. whether the features are done one way or another, line, lighting, none of it truly matters. that's why style can change so dramatically and why many are so open to a multitude of styles. neither group really believes in the truthfulness of their particular chimeric style that their experiments chanced to birth. you've distorted the meaning of beauty and confuse trivial, passing entertainment for it.
you will both be replaced by the monster you people and tumblr dykes created.

>>6676050
Go read any random newspaper articles from the 1960s, 40s, 30s, 20s. Yes the English language as it is used is degenerating.

>>6679834
>poc
just say nigger dont be shy