/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Should I copy one specific anime style or doesn't it really matter? Let's say one day I want to copy the style from Jormungand and the other day Kill la Kill

>>6657152
For general mileage it doesn't matter

>>6657152
You should draw fooly cooly.

/3/ fag here. I made a thread there to "find my artstyle and with the help of a guy, I went from left to right.
My current problem is I have no idea what to do to do the back (especially the back of the legs wich are way uglier thant the rest) muscles in the same art style. Same problem with the shapes, I had a massive problem in my legs for example and never realied it until it was pointed out.

Can someone help me figure it out?

>>6657195
you mean like anatomy? for artists?

>>6657446
Yes and also the shading he did. All the corrections he made by modifying them on my screenshot are now obvious to me. Didn't really need it for the upper body cause my version is off by choice, I kind of copied Araki's style of bodies. But for the legs, I always have a hard time with them and he made everything much more clear by drawing over the right part.

>>6657482
not really sure what you're asking for but if you want to understand the structure of those parts you can probably check an anatomy textbook like Bridgman or Anatomy for Sculptors. i know for sure Bridgman has a part about the back of the knee.
if you're working in 3d, style and shading are texture or engine things right? or do you mean the stylized anatomy?

Who's a good artist to study for coloring, that shares PSDs?

Can someone help me figure out the marked part? I got the rest I think.

>>6657502
Bruh, I'm not a 2D artist, I kind of avoided passing as spoonfed fag but all I want is for someone to just save the pic, draw over it in the same style as the top left corner of my picture for the back shot of my character. I'll suck the guy's peepee if he's around central Europe. That's all.

>>6658272
>low reso
post vid

>>6658307
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWRoYc12dqs&t=452s

>tfw your art will never make the OP

Quick studies.

>>6658341
This is a cruel realization that I am not even trying.
Gonna have to up my caffeine intake.

>>6658359
Do your best, anon.

>>6658311
>tfw your art has made it to the op before

>>6658341
you are a king

>>6658341
Learn how to draw a box in perspective, a lot of these "constructed" simplified forms are completely bonked. Looks like you're copying lines without understanding. It defeats the purpose.

>>6658395
thanks mate but I don't think I've achieved that level yet.
>>6658407
I'm working on it, thanks for the advice.

>>6658309
手ブレ補正 stabilization

Stupid question but if you can draw anime like a semi pro, is it hard for these people to switch up styles lets say to paint something in a realism? I don't want to be "stuck" to just drawing one style forever if that makes sense. But I guess once you can draw a human figure you can draw everything right?

>>6658455
Exactly the problem i'm facing right now. You hit a wall at a certain point if you lack the fundamentals and want to improve beyond what you're capable of doing. Of course i'm not saying you should autistically construct everything and then end up with stiff work but you should be balancing both studying and constantly applying what you learn to every personal piece from then on, and it will improve over time.

Is Miyano Tomochika right?

https://raisinsec.com/good-at-drawing-are-crazy/

Translation:
>The theme of this issue is "People who are good at drawing are crazy!" This is the theme of this year's exhibition.

>Why did we choose such a theme?

>Because many people think that people who are good at painting are crazy.
>Because many people think so.

>People who are good at drawing
>Maybe they have savant syndrome.
>or
>ADHD?
>and "Maybe he/she has ADHD.

>People who are not good at drawing think that there must be some special reason why they are different from ordinary people.
>There must be some special reason why they are different from ordinary people.
>A person who is not good at painting will try to find a convincing reason
>They are eager to maintain their mental stability.

>Do good painters have a different brain structure from ordinary people?

>No, that is not true.
>People who are good at drawing are people who didn't stop drawing at the age of five.

>People who are good painters and people who are not good painters have the same brain structure.

>>6658524
>A person who is good at drawing was five years old.
>They doodle on the walls of their room
>Even if his mother got angry with him
>Even when his mother got angry with him, he didn't stop drawing.

>A person who is not a good drawer is the one who, at the age of five
>He drew a scribble on the wall of his room
>and his mom got angry with him.
>and stopped drawing.

>That's all.

>There are junior high school students who are called "god painters.
>A junior high school student god painter didn't stop drawing at the age of 5.
>From the age of 5 to 15
>He was a person who continued to paint for 10 years.

>Don't be jealous just because a younger painter is better than you.
>Don't be jealous than the one who painted for 5 years from the age of 20 to 25.
>who painted for 10 years from the age of 5 to 15 is better than someone who painted for 5 years from the age of 20 to 25.

>Sometimes there are people who are unusually fast at drawing. Such people are usually left-handed.
>The reason is the structure of the brain.

>The human brain is
>divided into the right brain and the left brain.
>The right brain is the brain that controls graphics
>The left brain is the brain that controls language.

>>6658341
How much time did those quick studies take?

>>6658448
It should be stabilization but the option for it for the pen doesnt result in a 1-5 selection thing. Video is also not that old so it's not an outdated version either.

>>6658527
Depends on the complexity of these.
10 to 15 minutes for anatomy and more than 40 minutes for the anime ones.

>>6658588
I meant the whole sheets.
Reminds me of those jap artists who dump massive practice sheets by the day.
>pic related by @cyjalway.

>>6658591
Cyjalway is Chinese

>>6658538
learn japanese

Studying from my go to twitter guys. a_4_k_a and jusjusojus. They make it seem so simple.

>>6658591
PUFFY VAGINA

>>6658767
These guys really love drawing. I mean I love it too, but I can only concentrate my effort toward one sketch at a time.

>>6658693
Kanji hard

What is the best resource for drawing anime heads, especially pretty girls? Besides copying your favorite artists, which I am already doing.

>>6659326
That's the source and you give it more time. You can watch some youtube videos to listen to takes of different artists on the matter.

Wait what the fuck my art made it to the OP

>>6659730
one time my art did once and everyone bullied me the entire thread

Anyone know what this line is supposed to be?

>>6659838
Its following the eyesocket and then riding the cheek ridge.

>>6659839
Yeah but what's causing it? Yoshinari does it on a lot of his male faces.

>>6659983
I've tried looking at some photo refs but I don't see anything similar.

>>6659985
It's not a real line, it's a style choice to show the cheekbone. It corresponds to where the face "turns" in 3D.

>>6657132
What's your most brutal and honest critique?

>>6658591
One has a bulging vagina outside the crotch and the rabbit has shitty feet like poorly finished mech, the one on the ground has a giant anus

>>6660285
It is flat and poorly contoured, its stroke is very unstable, the position lacks dynamism

DAILY REMINDER to not learn nippon style from westoids, if you don't want it ending up looking like pic related

>>6659996
>It's not a real line

It is.

>>6660369
That looks alright to me. The most noticeable thing is the terrible designed outfit and rushed hands and feet. If being a westoid bothers you; just stick with sex violence and drugs, never steered me wrong.
>that book is german.

>>6660389
Fuck off, it looks horrendous, not even your drawing looks as shit as that.
Not sure if you're trying to crab or gatekeep in a twisted way, or if you're just too fucking retarded or have shit taste.
I repeat: NEVER, under ANY circumstance, learn anime-style from Westerners.

>>6660465
>>6660369
>tfw learning from a japanese art book instead
>the book itself is in japanese, have to learn the language before I can learn how to draw

mixed kind of feeling

>>6659983
I think it's probably done to give the character a more serious and mature look. U can see it in a lot of western portraits.

>>6660331
Okay, thanks for the critique

>>6660474
>having to learn Japanese
Or you could just, you know, use Google translator and translate everything to English with the camera function.
The real problem is having to pay for the books AND for shipping.

>>6660474
>>6660514
There's quite a few japanese art instructors that have subs in their tutorials on youtube and twitter. And there are art books translated to english from japanese artists as well. Unless there's this one specific book you desperately want, most essential books and videos are already available in english.

>>6660285
It's boring to look at because you used the same HB pencil to shade the entire drawing and in that process the lineart was lost, especially on the hair.

Do you guys spend a week studying one thing and study another subject the week after or spend a day studying one thing and the next day study another subject?

>>6660542
That's a decent schedule to have, the weekly one. Be careful to not burn yourself out over one subject though and leave room for fun pieces from imagination while incorporating the things you've learned in between. Then at the end of the month compare an earlier piece to one you did at the end of it, find those flaws and see if there's anything you need to go back on or want to further improve.

>>6660539
Fug, I thought I made a difference by pressing the tip harder at the darker spots, but it's still too light, huh... Thanjs for the feedback!!

>>6658526
I've always felt that I was quicker to understand language and other logical subjects. Art really messes with my brain, I keep trying to create and fall back on a hard set of rules when drawing and it fucks me over when something doesn't conform to my mental constructs and I have to grind and grind to discover a new method which I then fall back on for things and the cycle keeps going. Is this how it is supposed to be? I have never just been able to "feel" my drawings, I don't even know how /beg/s produce their soulful-ish drawings everything turns into absolute shit when I'm not fully concentrating.

>>6661141
>I have never just been able to "feel" my drawings
That's pretty normal for beginners who aren't lifelong hobbyists.

>>6661141
you don't want to rely on rules. the less construction and rules and such the better. Your goal should be to produce an entire drawing without using any guidelines at all. winging it is a good thing!

I think soul is something you have to naturally, intrinsically want. If you don't personally care for it, i don't think there's any hope of you getting it. "Feeling" comes because you see something cool or super cute or whatever that you can do. You won't be able to feel anything unless you actually have passions for those things, like "I personally really love cute things" or "I really like mysterious things", and so while you go for that feeling, typically by getting an idea of something good to do while you draw, and from influence by good art of the thing you love and want to capture.

note that, artists who have depression find themselves unable to draw properly for this very reason, because while depressed they lose their passion, and overall don't have any strong feelings about things (good feelings are kind of muted). I and a friend of mind have personally experienced this inability to draw while depressed; and when the depression went away, my ability came back somewhat, although not quite the same. hope this informs.

>>6661163
Oh, in this case I have it backwards. I never had passion towards anything and felt apathetic towards life in general. Because I never felt strongly about anything I figured I would try to pick up a lifelong hobby to at least force myself to become good at something over letting myself waste away.

I treat my art like a mechanical exercise similar to crosswords or sudoku. I don't know what is wrong with me. It's not like I'm depressed or anything.

>>6661180
oh, there is probably 0 hope for u having soul then. it comes from passion, childlike chasing of charm. If you don't have passions, I can't really help you too much. some people are like you, and they are able to draw quite well, just... they tend to be more on the fundies side of things, a lot more technical and rigorous. Personally, I don't understand how people like you can stand drawing, I'd be so bored if I wasn't drawing cute boys/girls. you're probably fine though, ur just naturally like that.

>>6659838
>>6659983
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>>6659996
>not real
This gen is full of retards

>>6661189
no line is real, lines are an abstraction

>>6661141
There is arguably a language and logic to what humans find appealing (hence why AIs can make decent illustrations now), you just need to learn it through practice

>>6661191
It's an "abstraction" of the tear trough mtf.

>>6661180
just curious, would you ever considering draw lewds? that is something anyone i think can have passion for, and so you would be able to go for a certain feel. not to encourage degen but, it does work.

>>6661197
I initially looked down on lewds when I first started out but after trying it I realised it falls in line with my previous studies on anatomy in university for a science degree. I can draw (bad) lewds but I have a chicken and egg scenario where I can't feel the passion for it when it doesn't look good but at the same time I suck at it and can't make it look good. I think the answer is to just keep grinding more?

>>6661268
I kneel.

>>6661268
Is that Bocchi?

>>6661205
keep trying to make it look lewd. if you can capture the lewdness. actually... now that I think about it it might be a bad idea to recommend this to you... cuz u don't have passion, you need to be able to draw without passion, not to find a passion. and begoming degen isn't something I should be recommending anyways, cuz you just wanted to be good at something.

well whatever. i don't know how to draw without passion either.

It is quite generic but from imagination.

>>6661655
also, more studies.

Can I make this gesture more dynamic?

>>6661655
Coom

>>6661662
Yes.

>>6661656
These are nice
How do you draw ribs without wanting to kill yourself?

I think it’s time I just give up on drawing rather than spend years doing it badly on and off
I don’t know how to improve and it’s pretty lonely when nobody you know shares the same interest
Have fun without me bros ur gonna make it

>>6661768
>and it’s pretty lonely when nobody you know shares the same interest
even if you had 6 jewllians friends that share your same interest and are passionated about it you would still ngmi, you have that ngmi mentality and it will spread all over your life.
rest in piss ngmikek

>>6661732
By trying to draw the ribs with measurements, divide it into sectors and look carefully which parts go on one side or the other.

Does anyone know of any oekaki art but with overall thicker, non-sketch lines? Similiar quality to picrel, but just thicker. I'm curious can such an artstyle look good, all of this oekaki art always has generally thin 1px lines.

There is something I have never seen in anime. Mesquite trees are all around me, but I have never seen them in anime. Since Japan won’t do it, I’m trying to visualize anime-style mesquite trees.

>>6661929
>Mesquite trees are all around me, but I have never seen them in anime.
Japanese animators draw Japan.

The presence of Japanese summer cicadas in any/all anime settings, being one example.

These are attempts at making anime versions of mesquite trees.

>>6659733
Lmao

>>6657132
I'm very /beg/ but I was hoping for some feedback. Especially with hair I can't for the life of me make it fucking work.

>>6662085
You're at a stage where you should be doing a lot of construction underneath first to learn where to put features. Study this stuff in order, look up videos and books for each topic and don't really move on to the next step until you get the hang of each one to a degree. It helps to have an artist in mind that you like to use as reference and to focus. Have an end goal in mind of what you'd like to accomplish.

>>6661783
It’s ok anon you can project all you want but I’m successful in other aspects of life, just not drawing
Gotta pick your battles, I think no less of you for your arrogance

>>6660285
I'm allergic to fundies

Fix my art plz senpais :D

>>6662323
Really? I hope you recover, Anon!

>>6662278
those eyes feel very creepy to me

>>6662262
You will probably come back anyway eventually since you also started drawing for a reason.
You can't deny your soul's earnest wishes like that. I did the same thing with another activity.
Quit learning a language (Japanese) because I fucking sucked at it. But even years later, I kinda regret not having at least tried to commit for longer.
Because you WILL get better. But I was a nihilist like you, saying "Oh, at least now I have more time for other things! LOL"
Don't be like that, Anon, please draw again. You cannot give up like that. You only have so much time left. PUREASU

semi regular studies as warm-up
a mix of timed studies (5-10 minutes each) and reference + imagination practice (15-30min each) over 11 sessions
references are whatever manga i'm enjoying, pinterest, and my reference folders

>>6662878
Naisu

>>6662878
a mix of timed studies (5-10 minutes each) and reference
How do you do that in 10min.
Is that even possible?
My arts take over an hour with constant fixing with the lasso tool.
>>6660389

>>6663145
There's a difference bewtween doing "studies" and doing a full-fledged "artwork".

>>6662250
That the mangamat guy? I have all his stuff but fuck me if I know the order of it.

>>6663232
The pic is my redline. If you mean what materials to study, yeah MangaMaterials is good. So is hide channel.

>>6662613
>blue
neck tangent
https://youtu.be/RJIWllIMHsg
>white
AI?

>>6658538
hope this helps, clicking right click and show indicator.
>>6658693
i will not learn Japanese

>>6663307
I use hide for the croquis stuff, but it's rather unorganized on account of being japanese.

>>6663310
Nah, its not AI. I'm just retarded.

>>6663358
Show timelapse or gtfo

>>6658341
>>6658588
>>6658767
>>6659669
>>6660285
>>6660389
>>6660542
>>6661268
>>6661655
>>6661656
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>>6662878
Not japanese enough.

>>6663522
Nice b8 m8.
Go back to pretending that you're drawing :)

>>6663681
Is this how you practice?

>>6663930
That's right. You need to focus on a specific area of drawing that you want to master and then draw something with the knowledge you have learned.

>>6664014
I meant more if you were drawing eyes on premade heads.

>>6657132
How is this?

>>6664031
I'm afraid not, I do each drawing individually from start to finish, starting with the eyes. In this case what is painted in red was first and then the hair.

>>6662613
that's just not how light works man you have such a dark red umbrella at the beach and it's not casting any shadows or tinting her slightly red/pink

>>6662613
honestly I don't even know what I've done here

Comments?
I know normal ryuko looks blurry but I'm afraid to ink it, usually that's how decent drawings I make are ruined

And another drawing of Spike with Ein (He's my first dog)
I feel that I will study the Cowboy bebop settei since they maintain proportions that are not as exaggerated as other settei that I am studying, by the way, I have been drawing for 4 months.
I already want to go digital

>>6663310
how the hell does that mean ai kek

>>6664067
Makes sense. Can you show me how it would work?

Unless you're that >>6664227 guy, I have no idea what's happening there.

>>6664327
yeah that's me I was going to cast shadows on her with multiply but started color editing instead those are just a few layers to make her look like she's in stronger sunlight on the beach but I went overboard maybe

>>6657132
does anybody have the saito naoki backup torrent thing?

>>6663522
Well yeah, cuz I'm not japanese silly.

some practice after days without drawing because of star rail

>>6664539
now post your imagination drawings

>>6664539
what'd you use as reference for her body?

>>6664559
picrel was the reference I used
this character unfortunately has no art

>>6664558
the figures were made by myself

>>6664570
no reference at all for her figure? you just used your imagination?

>>6664579
I looked at concept art of the character and anatomy notes for the glutes in the open-legged position
the gestures are mine

>>6664570
>that profile face
anon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdd5u-SNBvU

>Anime is too realistic!
>I so complex! I'm loosing my mind!
>minde lost
*shoots the complex/gone postal*

Copic-esque stuff i made.

>>6664847
Damn, verry nice

>>6663522
What does it need for a drawing to look "Japanese enough"? In your opinion

>>6664383
the light is coming more from the front top from the camera though. I think I'll just change the umbrella

>>6664847
How do you accomplish this?

I've become a copy-cat wtf do I do now?

>>6665575
draw

>>6665580
I meant that type of colors dummie.

>>6665579
Copy more things you like. Take the elements you like and synthesize them into something you like more than the parts. Reproduce this synthesis. Congrats, you are now original.

seriously studying again for the first time in a month, its awful. now i have to work to get back to where i was before i quit.
its like all the effort i put in has gone to complete waste.

>>6667350
That cat looks toasty

>>6664539
tried to ink this
does anyone have any material that teaches how to ink/pen work in manga style

It's embarrassing that it took me until watching this video to fix my face proportions to be more anime-like but I thought i'd share it anyway in case people have the same problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDoss1hzbcQ
I'm now redlining my own work to check.

>>6667909
nice find but this seems more like practice and experience at work here

>>6667929
I've been drawing for a long time but my proportions have always felt off in the way japanese artists tend to deform/stylize faces. So this has been illuminating in that regard.

>>6667947 (Me)
I guess i'm trying to say it helps to keep it in mind even early on whether you've been drawing a lot or not. Though I suppose it's more of a stylistic choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffT98EHIEY
anyone got a rip?

>>6668084
>$12
Just buy it and support the guy. Or just follow along his streams for free.

>>6664428
Yeah id like to know aswell.

>>6668138
alright

>>6668084
seconded, would love this

i cant spare $12, i lost my job last month and my pixiv fanbox with 20 followers is all the income that remains for me so i'm trying to make it better as i job search

to do that i need some highly asian man to teach me how to draw, asap

I saw a video from someone explaining its better to draw with ink straight up so I do less mistake. I'm not so sure since now I can't make construction lines.

repostan from /beg/
help me /ic/, i'm in a crisis
i want to become a NSFW artist and start taking commissions, but the issue are:
- i like using outlines a lot as i'm used to pixel art, working with a limited palette and doodling
- i also like how painting/rendering allows me to make things look really soft
which leads to pic related where the boobs look good, but i have no idea how to tackle the nipples, hair, features, details like frills, etc. i don't want everything to look as simple and fleshy as the tits, but i don't wanna ruin them by adding more outline to them. any tips or recommendations for artists who pull off this combination?

>>6668630
and this is how i draw when doing pixelshit which i'm more comfortable with but i was told that the softer, painterly look suits my style better even though i'm quite new to it :/

also, any tips for twitter/pixiv and any other jp platforms like skeb? i have a friend who can tl for me so i have no qualms with getting commissions from japs

>>6668631
Looks cool

how do I fix the eyes in the big drawing? I have a hard time placing the eyes and mouth, I'm not sure what I'm missing

maybe someone can point out the obvious to me, would appreciate it a lot

>>6668630
I think your art is great but you're used to working on very small DPI canvas, gotta try to adjust to 300DPI with canvas that's 2k res

To me 'softness' is a good quality in coloring, but you should try to keep your lineart sharp, so if you like softness try that. keep your signature style in shading and coloring but sharpen the lineart, it won't look so low res then

>>6668628
pen advice is meme, but your drawing looks nice
but the 'straight ink' advice will just make you avoid drawing things and poses you're weak at

it should be advice for intermediates, not people who are starting out

>>6668084
would appreciate a rip of this

>>6667745
thigh high shading shinies are well done, the hair shading is great. you are good at drawing highlights

clothing shading is serviceable but i'd say it needs more dark black sharp shadows, like the underboob one

also what is the smudging around them? it makes them look like they stink, change the background

you're a great artist tho overall

>>6665579
this is nice, very dynamic and sensual pose for just someone sitting, but this is an ANIME general so i'm gonna have to ask you to leave.

>>6664570
I wish I could do expressions and faces as well as you. maybe you could give me some advice

>>6664260
spike sketch is nice, I could tell it was him without reading your shitty post

dog is scuffed, move the snout up, paws look like fingers

also you already went digital by taking this picture, just ctrl+v it into SAI and lineart that Spike

if you dont have a tablet, use sai vectors (sai linework layer)

>>6664049
it's cute but the perspective is off on the dude. pichu is great and highly cute, post the pichu on some site, you'll get likes

>>6663681
amazing work on the hair

the heads are too broad, reduce by 20%

>>6669027
>it's cute but the perspective is off on the dude. pichu is great and highly cute, post the pichu on some site, you'll get likes
Thank you! Should I post on Pixiv only or also on Twitter or Instagram?

>>6669054
I only have experience with Pixiv, but consider who you want your audience to be, then pick a site accordingly

what's a good place for cute things? twitter and insta seem like a good pick because of the women audience. Is that where all the tumblr people went after the purge?

Also, check out this video/channel, it seems up your alley. She talks about how to promote your shit and also mentions that cute things are a good gateway into your first followers, her style also reminds me of yours a bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLkLX1cXHso

Practice with a new brush

>>6669027
Your chins are too pointy, the left eyes right corner just needs to be turned up a bit i think?

>>6669027
Same advice as >>6662250 for how to improve placement.

Where do I start at the Krkrenz enz course linked in the OP?

>>6669099
Nice lines. Any tips to achieve that? (please dont say stab. cranked up)

>>6669083
Thanks, I almost forgot about her, "Lavendertowne". Baby's first art tutorialist, amirite?
Anyways, that's sound advice, appreciate it, WAGMI

>>6669957
your drawings are okay but they don't have the anime vives imo, the head and face are too square, eyes are higher too making the skull look smaller making it western looking compàred to jab anime.

any nigga thinks the same?, i feel like im thinking too deep or im into something here

>>6670152
That's fair! It's something i'm working on fixing by copying other styles but I have drawn this way for a very long time so it's been a struggle to undo a decade's worth of habits. I hope at least the construction is sound, it's more general advice and people are meant to apply their own style to it.

>>6661662
see https://youtu.be/YFSMXotipsg

>>6661929
Just put on a filter and draw over it? That's how some animes does it.

>>6669027
You can use ball method. I tried to illustrate how to rotate the ball (which is something I struggled with when I started) so that you have a good base to start with. I suggest that when you start learning, you stick to simple angles and try not to draw diagonally (see how i fixed the vertical angle in the 3rd part). This will make it harder if your brain is not accustomed to drawing sideways. On the last part, I tried to do single strokes so you can see what big shapes you can focus on when doing the details. The likeness isnt 100% but you should get the general idea. keep practicing

>>6669027
Watch https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTY4AtphBe8Oq5Oaa7inP2_cvtmoEBG7Z it includes the proportions for the eyes, nose and chin.

>>6668084
>>6668612
>>6669027
If you guys just want a sample just try to get the code for the clip studio files from
https://youtu.be/rxRi1cva0aw
and
https://youtu.be/jI3wIpGjQZQ
The first one is easy but the second one I can't for the love of god find what the 3rd letter is. And this is worth it fyi specially for how good hide's line are. You gotta find it fast though since there's a time limit before the link expire.

>>6669957
Thank you very much anon, your Rin is cute and judgmental, I like it

>>6670152
I think the heavier line weight makes his drawings a bit less "anime" but the style is good

>>6670300
thanks a lot for the illustration, your work looks awesome. I'll keep struggling

I always have a hard time figuring out where the chin should be, no one in the tutorials says how long it's supposed to be, they just eyeball it

but when I eyeball it it either gets too long and pointy or too shot and broad.

>>6670408
damn, great picture man
was it done non-digitally? i like the super contrast between the green eyes and the light tones of the image

Captcha: MP0WRD
i wish to feel empowered

>>6670408
Noice

>>6661276
After reflecting on myself for the past week I came to realise there isn't anything I actually want to draw. It was an interesting exercise for the past 2 years going from nodraw to /beg/, I feel like I can see the world in new ways and noticed I'm more attentive to visual detail in my daily life. But I'm a consoomer through and through, I'm fine just enjoying other people's works. If anything these 2 years have weaned me off degen coom arts which was a problem for me when I was a teen, thanks to switching to analysing enough pictures instead of fapping to them.

I guess I will keep practicing with whatever free time I have but art will probably drop in priority for me and I don't need to "make it" anymore. It was a decent pasttime and despite all the negativity here I kind of enjoyed it.

>>6657132
What's the best website to post my anime music videos and work in progress animations? Twitter feels alright but other sites have been giving me limit restrictions. Also What's the best guide for anime faces? I need a refresher.

>>6670431
>damn, great picture man
>was it done non-digitally? i like the super contrast between the green eyes and the light tones of the image
>Captcha: MP0WRD

It is all digital, experimentin with a variaty of copic marker brushes on CSP.

>>6670678
>limit restrictions
What kind of restrictions? What kind of cotent do you post?
>anime faces
What's your favorite anime? Copy everyone's faces from your favorite characters

>>6670792
youtube been giving me copyright strike warnings, and pixiv and has been giving me warnings for weird stuff. i post a mixture of things.
>What's your favorite anime? Copy everyone's faces from your favorite characters.
i was thinking about doing something similar to hide channel. i want to get faster at drawing faces, i need to use more references so I'm just kinda lost.

>>6670869
Well in that case, Newgrounds sounds like your best bet. I would have said TikTok, but they apparently have similar rules to YouTube.
>Hide Channel
Haven't checked him out yet.
Good luck.

>>6670792
pixiv will only strike your shit if you don't censor the genitals
just put a few white or black bars over them and you'll be fine
I'm a pixiv main (Stillwater on Pixiv) and I post snuff and gore and they don't mind at all as long as there are a few black bars on the pee pee

>>6668631
>>6668630
If you are looking to get into a more painterly and less illustrative style you need to do some painting studies. I would try to paint from references of the things you want to draw before tackling it in the drawing you are working on. If you really want to see improvement don't sketch the references first just start with the colour.

Any critique or comment? This is one of the few sketches I've done lately that I keep liking even when I see it days after

>>6671174
I like it
boobs seems kinda high or the ribcage is too short
but overall it's nice

>>6671186
Yeah, probably because I tried to cramp too much on the page and ended up messing up the proportions. Thanks for your advice, friendo

How to make it look less like shit?

>>6671252
draw more

>>6671263
But if I draw more without knowing what to fix I will always be doing the same boring and shitty crap.

>>6671252
Shadows look dull, try making them all another color. There's no skin blush and she looks like she has no forehead.

>>6671252
Critique your own piece or take critique from this thread and then fix it up based on that critique. I am sure you can see some of the issues in your piece already.

I would fix up that face for sure it is super amateur looking. It is entirely flat and the face does nothing for the attractiveness of her. Do a second pass on the face for sure at the bare minimum.

Also please for the love of god reference a bunny suit. Those ears collar and bowtie are obviously not referenced and you don't know how to draw them so it brings down the piece.

>>6671252
More anatomy less tits

>>6671239
ears are too small, mouth kinda high, imo the head looks small or is the face that is big, neck is kinda thicc too

May I ask for some advice for pic related? I'm trying to do a dirty bathroom/shower background for my anime character but it looks terrible. I've just put a stock texture of concrete over a shitty grid but it don't look good

there are literally no tutorials on youtube for backgrounds, is drawing backgrounds some secret knowledge only architects and Asians have?

>>6671174
I think it's very good
The eyes are super well done and grab attention which is great because they deserve it
the nose looks good at first glance, but maybe it's a little bit too low? I may be wrong
anatomy looks correct, the pose is not very dynamic so that may be the next 'step up' for your drawing style since you seem to have it nailed
hair is basic, it works, but i'm not sure you followed the 'flow of hair' or took note of the hairline because if the hair is gathered into the buns then there'd be lines going towards them, no?
hope that helps, overall the drawing is very good
>>6671252
the eyelash you drew is just 1 flat line, make the eyelash more dynamic, eyes draw attention of all drawings so make them the centerpiece
make hair into fatter strands and clumps, not just this staircase pattern
desu your body is super well drawn, you just need to stick a well drawn head on top of it
literally cut out an anime head and stick it on this body and you'll see that
>>6671278
no, you'll improve a lot just by doing and comparing your drawing parts (like eyes or hair or shading) to other drawings you like

that's how you will improve the most, you won't find one "hot tip" that makes you into a good artist

>>6671376
I'm saving that shit, that many mods on trad is gonna rip the paper. I'll do it digitally. Thank you, anon

>>6671398
reference other art

>>6671401
that's gonna take ages, even the artist in your pic couldnt be bothered to figure out the perspective for the floor lol
>>6671399
the ears aint that small, i thought they were qte

>>6671406
>bothered to figure out the perspective for the floor
huh?
i think you need to go back to beg sir

>>6671278
That's why there are references and studies. So u can draw more

>>6657132
Is tracing an effective way to learn?
I keep hearing & seeing differing opinions on the matter.

>>6671431
is that your favorite thread? explains why your advice is 'use reference xD' as if you discovered something there

what an embarrassment of a human being

>>6671406
>that's gonna take ages, even the artist in your pic couldnt be bothered to figure out the perspective for the floor lol
anon, reference the texture. you DO know how to rotate objects in space, right?

Some sketches.

>>6660555
great tips
great trips

any advice is great

total /beg/ been practicing gesture and basic body construction. No idea how to colour or shade (it always comes out really muddy). Also HOW TF do you draw anime eyes i swear to god mine always come out like a downs

>>6671488
Tracing over a drawing is one of the steps to do copies, but don't do it mindlessly. You're supposed to break down what you're copying and then challenge yourself to replicate it afterwards. Redline, use it to note lines, proportions and placement, and then draw a duplicate next to it without the guideline. Keep repeating until you achieve your desired likeness, and then draw something from imagination using what you learned.

>>6671573
The face is the easiest thing. Anime face is great because allows you to sameface through everything just changing the hair. smart choice.

I LIKE the proportions of your picture, I don't know how you came up with the pose and the proportions but that was great. Work on the sketch process, just throw sketches, again and again, till you feel the shapes flow on the paper/screen. You can totally make it anon. You have it.

>>6671633
i love your quirky style

>>6671573
Find waifu/artwork u like and copy them.
As for anime eyes. Ur best bet is to focus and making good anime head first. Also think in shapes.

>>6671324
Anatomy on what? The shitty clavicles? The tube arms? The invisible hands? The pipe shoulders?
>>6671295
Another colour? I literally have no goddamn idea about colouring or basic common theory. I just aped 3dpd reference.
>>6671304
I can't do faces for absolute fucking shit. My brain short circuits and every single attempt at portraiture has come out wrong. I am starting to think I am just utterly incapable of doing portraits.
>Collars and bowtie
Don't know how I thought it was even remotely correct. I will remake them.

>>6671398
I will try to look up some doujinshi to use as referenes for the hair and face.

I can't pick colours for absolute damn. I have been trying for an hour to try different base colours and then pick shadows/highlights from it to no avail.
I know that the very structure of the drawing is worth shit and I should grind that before trying to """polish """" dogshit but I really want to try to go above study sketches.

I was feeling so pumped up for this one yesterday and now I just want to trash it and forget it exists.

>>6671398
thank you, anon. very kind of you
the hair wasn't as planned, but if I had to do a profile or 3/4, the side strands would converge to the buns

>>6671633
>>6671646
Thank you for the feedback anons

>>6671608
Sounds good, thanks.

have you guys tried this as practice before?

>>6671755
It works

https://youtu.be/INHeI6Lwtes

What's considered as low /int/ and high /beg/? I need reference.

>>6671778
Both are beginner level in the real world so who cares

>>6671755
Are we learning Japanese ot how to draw?

any resources on how to draw the mouth?

>>6671704
relax, my bro, just the fact of you drawing things means you are improving even if you dont notice it

this will help you a lot with picking colors:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuSdcMmu4c8
also watch his face tutorials, where he maps it

but as for colors, in a nutshell, don't just 'move darker' on the color panel to pick a color, adjust both the hue AND the brightness a little bit and pick a few shades.

also don't color stuff like skin against pure white background cuz it'll always look awkward

your panicky way of typing leads me to believe you have some issues, just enjoy improving at a skill man

>>6671823
well, the japanese use the same word for 'writing' and 'drawing' so your question is redundant

>>6671881
nice catboy

quick color test, god i am the worst at color theory. Gonna watch Rinotuna's course and apply whatever i learn to this garbage.
>>6671913
it says woof woof its clearly a dog boy, baka!

>>6671913
>well, the japanese use the same word for 'writing' and 'drawing' so your question is redundant
Based. Is this why Nips have a better inclinatikn to draw, because they're literally drawing all the time as in writing words?

I drew this after i failed an exam

>>6671976
Who is that? Can you retake the exam?

>>6671976
Really cute Chii. I hope you fare better in your next exam, anon!

>>6671975
no, it's because they have to endlessly practice rote repetition to learn to write 10 000 kanji characters

which makes them disciplined in practice

so when they learn a skill like drawing, they actually draw a lot and practice a lot

Hey, lads, just started doing accuracy homework, got a single question: am i missing something or are these guiding lines placements always that strange? Took around 50 minutes, never held a pen in my life

>>6672022
What's strange to about it to you?

>>6672024
They are all over the place with no paticular structure, dunno, maybe it's just me

>>6672029
The outer ones are to approximate the silhouette.
The inner ones are often lining up on certain features, like the edge of a curve or the tip of some angle.

>>6672041
Oh, so in the end I was doing it right, huh. Thanks, man.

For how long should I practice current level of Krenz accuracy training I am at? Like should I copy doggies until I am confident with them or just go next level after completing them?

some morning practice

the boob perspective is off, they shouldn't be rotated towards the viewer like that but i always have a hard time drawings things that are 90% rotated, that last 10% that's showing needs to be bent and deformed in a very specific way that's hard to nail

need more practice

>>6672063
Just pick up an anatomy book and draw your favorite character.

>>6672017
>rote
What is that?

>so when they learn a skill like drawing, they actually draw a lot and practice a lot
Based. As it should be.

>noticed that my art lacks soul
bros...

>>6672158
Post it, I'll tell you whether it has soul ot not

>>6672158
Pyw plz

>>6672158
Bait

>>6672158
I hope my work still has soul after all these years of drawing. That's what I wanted to focus on when I began drawing, just to have fun and look fun

>>6672169
>>6672183
>>6672210

>>6672307
Would bust a nut to it if I didn't have internet / 10.

>>6672307
Yep, sorry it's over. You coomed your soul away. Try drawing jesus with a cute loli next to him in a non sexual way to regain some soul.

>>6672307
Needs bigger tits.

>>6672307
It's alright overall. Something feels awkward with the pelvis area but not sure. Soul can be found within the face. Sometimes soul can also be found within the ass. Overall you are using the bare basic lines with low dpi. and it might feel boring. I'd suggest using a digital pencil or find something that you like. The more messy and natural your lines look the more soul it will have. Digital perfection is not always required. If you give her some coom improvements I wouldn't mind nutting to this.

>>6672307
Well, yeah, pretty soulless. Looks like pic from children's coloring book. Idk, try finer lines.

>>6671495
>tp
>ti
sasuga

>>6671704
Don't feel discouraged. You getting this feedback and improving the image will take you far. It's the blood sweat and tears that will help you improve. Keep it up!

>>6671940
I am not loving these colours honestly. The red is fine but doesn't look great with the purple sweater. A less saturated purple would probably help.

what do you people do to learn? i feel so aimless

>>6672640
draw

>>6671778
My opinions.

>>6671529
Uhm do these girls already partake in a harem? Are they for sale?

>>6672307
It looks like she has microcephaly. Needs a bigger cranium. Also try thinner line if you go for the true jap style, but that's obviously preference.

>>6672640
Draw satania 10x a day.

>>6672712
>>6672480
o-ok...

>>6672640
You know what, I wonder what inspire young people today. In the "past", what inspired us, was great art, music, tv shows, movies, comics, awesome quality shit inspired us. But today, we can all admit everything is SHIT. Tv shows, music, movies, even video games! This are dark times indeed, young people growing up in this scene of desolation are suffering the most, there's no passion, no motivation, no life in their veins. No soul. All I can say anon, is search good music, old tv show, 80s and 90s anime and movies, like Jaws, Mad Max II, Die Hard, classic manga series, I don't know. You need to fuel your soul with something strong and powerful.

>okay today I will draw
>start to draw
>open a thread
>see ai art
>let the insecurities close in
>get discouraged
fuck this

>>6671755
alright weebs let's see you try

>>6672640
Masturbate...

>>6672640
masturbate...

>>6672865
rope now AItroon

>>6672788
Am I gonna make it?

>>6672788

>>6670431
To determine where the chin ends:
1 unit is the distance from the midline to the start of the hairline.
>This unit is determined by the size of your circle, place it slightly above the midway point. OR 2/3 of the way up the from the midline to the top of the circle.
The chin is placed approximately 2 units underneath the midline of the circle.
Even though these are approximations, they should be able to help you draw almost any type of stylized face.

>>6673013
Thanks anon, I'll practice that

just overlaying it on a practice sketch I did earlier. so should the chin be at the orange line, like I just highlighted? it feels wrong and too long but the base drawing feels wrong too, so idk

>>6671529
100% using reference and it's disgusting.

I think I can get some money from my drawings
where I can find commissions for manga style art
Is there any website specialized for it? I don't use twitter tho

>>6673210
You're supposed to use reference until you internalize enough information to swing it naturally.

>>6673228
There are many routes. to get started you should post a couple of drawings for free first to explore what tags you like drawing and what brings the most eyes

There's the twitter + youtube route which I don't know about

there's patreon which you should have if you won't break its TOS

finally there's Pixiv which is what I went for. Pixiv has a thing for commissions called Booth, it has a patreon-like subscription site called Fanbox, it's pretty integrated. post a couple good fanarts and put alternate versions of them on Fanbox (or Patreon). people will click to see your nice drawing, and a small subset of them may pay to get the extra versions

have a picture with what your commission and pricing looks like and always link it in your descriptions, people who like your art will reach out

I don't do commissions and people reach out to me to do them anyway, but I decline because I'm insecure (I'm Stillwater on pixiv, but guro warning if you look me up)

also there's a site called ko-fi which lets people donate to you via paypal, you can make an account, they dont take a fee, always good to link it under your works

hope that helps and good luck anon

>>6672751
AI art doesn't have your style and your interaction with the community and it can't capture the exact spirit and idea for your work, even if it can create nicer hair or faces

it's actually very samey

>>6673210
references are a great way to learn.

>>6673247
been tryna swing naturally for 5 years and ive learned nothing, i should of just swallowed up my pride and used references for my shit and practices. been using references the last few months and i have improved tremendously. not gonna post my work. just take my word.

>>6673261
This. Using reference is good. This >>6673210 permabeg is 100% coping. "My drawings are shit only because I'm NOT using reference, you hack."

>>6673258
I have a pixiv account where I post some stuff
I'll check this booth thing
thanks bro

>>6671573
Don't fret, the face is the hardest part. You have to practice the Loomis method a bit and use skull references to get a grasp on the structure. Then you compare your heads to the heads of good artists that you like and go from there

>find an old drawing
>damn theres some things that i didnt' notice 2were shit back then
>redo the drawing
>all soul gone

Holy shit it's FUCKING OVER!!1

>>6673295
no worries man. i forgot to mention that booth is for selling completed sets, like a few page manga story, you can put them out for sale as one time purchases

pixiv 'requests' is another feature for commissions, separate from booth, you specify a dollar amount and people can request a commission

and pixiv fanbox is basically patreon

>>6673311
hey, it's my boy Lancer!

don't give up even if you have his Luck stat you can be a hero.

>>6672307
Fixed it for you. You owe me 24 dolares americanos.

>>6672869
Demonstrate for me anon. I'll only do it if you do it.

>>6672937
>mfw looking at lolis

>>6673587
UUUUOH

>>6673591
>looping Into the Light right now
The face and features are too squished together.

>>6672912
Not if you ask like that.

>>6672937
U-uoh...

>>6673670
>>looping Into the Light right now
What?

>>6673682
I meant i'm listening to the new Bocchi song when I saw this. Don't mind it. Cute Ryo.

A number of the book links are dead, can anyone re-up them? Interested in the Japanese book collection in particular.

>>6673591
Is that Bocchi?

>>6673696
Oh okay, cool

>>6673172
You started incorrectly which is why it doesnt look right. Start in this order. Main big circle, forehead subcircles, then use those to figure out the nose, section and then chin.
To show you its possible, i overlaid and repositioned your image + some warp to get it to line up. Like i said, you wont need this always but once it sticks in your head, you'll hopefully be able to get straight to drawing without having to do all of subdrawings.

>>6673939
thank you

>>6673939
>>6673013
>>6673172
its fucking over for /asg/

Drew Kobayashi from memory .

I want to draw like this so bad aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I fucking hate myself.

>>6674429
go home gaijin
you rack disciprine

Should I stop drawing on a non screen tablet and just use paper and pencil? I feel like whenever I want to start drawing again and copy something like an anime drawing I usually end up with shittier drawings on a tablet than on paper. I've just been insisting on drawing on a tablet for some time.

>>6675405
You could do both as well, but whatever fits your own learning style

>>6675405
I would argue the sooner you get used to the tablet the better so you should take the time to get comfortable with it. But if it's eating up your productivity, maybe stick to paper for drawing and just scan or take a pic of your work after to do some coloring digitally.

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