/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6655348
Forget the kids, wtf is that face at the bottom?

When most of what you've drawn is over-bulky men in spandex, drawing something like children or cute girls without it looking weird is going to be difficult. Not to mention most modern comics artists don't even particularly good art skills in general, so you end up with horrid goblin-like shrinked adults.

>>6655348
>western comic artists
you mean amerishart comic artists
they cant draw adults eiter

>>6655348
Will peter for ever be cucked. why are American comics so afraid of give hero's a happy and stable family home.

>>6655358
Come on, you know why. Imagine if you were a "professional" cape comic book writer in this day and age

>>6655348
you are aware that by saying "western comic artists" you include every single european comic?
And every american comic ever existing?

>>6655358
>>6655360
>boy I sure hope there's no dramatic tension in this action-packed superhero comic!
that's you
that's what you sound like

Can AI?

>>6655363
I care about dramatic tension in battles, fights and criminal activities, not in romance, I'm not reading shojou. Like imagine you put your life on the line everyday, catching criminals, never having a break, then also add drama to your romance life? fuck that, I want to see parts of the hero life where they can be completely vunerable and safe with their love.
why make your own life more stressful then what it already has to be.

>>6655361
It's almost like a strict separation between americans comics, french bande dessinée and Japanese manga is silly, because they often influence each other, and manga/comics that influenced each other will be more similar to each other than two manga of entirely different genres will be.
This is super dangerous ground that we are approaching. This is how you get normalfags trying to argue something like Castlevania is legit anime when the only thing japanese about it is the IP (and even then the IP in question was primarily influenced by western horror franchises).

>>6655384
based post

>>6655358
Americans are indoctrinated from a young age into believing that suffering is a virtue because unhappy people consume more.

>>6655396
this logic applies to nearly everything about America in general

>>6655348
western artists worship ugliness

>>6655401
bruh ok.

>>6655404
Kaiji is cute though

>>6655348
lack of loli fundies

>>6655567
>i-it’a different
Kys

>>6655348
No moe culture.

>>6655358
I never understood why they don't just have their hero characters retire and give the mantel to someone else. Peter could get married, and give the mantel to some other schmuck who happens to have spider like powers who almost certainly exists for some reason.
Same with batman, same with superman, same with any of them. I don't understand why their suffering has to be eternal. Besides, all good things have an end, it really sort of removes any weight or bearing on any particular story if we know it doesn't mean much, since it'll be erased next retcon.

>why can't [entire industry of artists] draw x?
>can only provide a single example
Tired of this shit. Too pussy to just complain about the artist, has to make it some gay east vs west shit. Kill yourself immediately.

>>6655348
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>>6655640
still looks better than the OP

>>6655404
Debunking the myth of "anime sameface" by accident.
And yes, amerimutt comics are all for making women fugly on purpose, one of the reasons they're failing fast.

>>6655618
Godbless the Japanese.

>>6655628
>give the mantel to someone else
The company can't afford to kill a famous character for good because said character sells.
Modern comic pros don't have a single creative bone in their bodies, they can't make stuff that stands on itself, that's why they end doing shit like raceswapping existing characters using as an excuse that "audiences don't like new characters"

anime coomers see a children thats not drawn sexy and shit themselves

>>6655356
These people dont' read indie western comics anon. They think western comics is all capeshit.

>>6655817
>Debunking the myth of "anime sameface" by accident
not by accident never believed in it
>And yes, amerimutt comics are all for making women fugly on purpose, one of the reasons
my point was not that it wasnt ugly, my point was that "ugly" character design doesnt equal that the thing itself is bad

also the post said western instead of american cape shit which is just bullshit

>>6655841
forgot to attach image

>>6655827
sadly yes. Also it hurts because Asterix and Obelix etc. also count in the category "western comics"

Is Joe Mad the only good western comic book artist? I don't think he even does comic books anymore.

>>6655348
Another week another thread about this shitty panel being used to define all of modern American comics. Sad. Boring. Try harder.

I feel like western artists often have such shit styles because of their spitefulness toward anime. I get the feeling they're deliberately avoiding the traits that japanese artists have successfully isolated as objectively appealing. God forbid they admit defeat humbly, and instead use their competitors methods against them. When I look at old comics from say, the 80's, they look so much more appealing. Am I crazy? Are these fugly styles from the american market a product of too much pride?

>>6655853
Post a good one.

>>6655821

>>6655876

>>6655876
I don’t know a single person who has ever said a good thing about big mouth. In fact I don’t think I’ve ever heard it talked about at all.

>>6655876
>>6655896
>big mouth
>6 FUCKING seasons
How and why
Who the fuck is watching it???????

>>6655935
Netflix has a lot of disposable money for their own good.

>>6655876
if big mouth was an anime it would be considered a classic and ple filter

>>6655348
that happens because they did not study chad loomis well

>>6655935
You assume people watching stuff is necessary when all that you need is one rich connection to finance your garbage.

>>6655844
What animu?

>>6655348
>Why can't western comic artists draw
Yes, why indeed.

>>6655896
When I still hung out with normies they thought Big Mouth was hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SihXaljGJk0
When this first clip happened in the show, this one girl laughed until she was hoarse. I don't get it.

>>6655850
Madureira was so good he's still influencing fantasy designs 20 something years after dropping Battle Chasers

>>6655939
BlackRock gives them money for this shit out of your taxes.

>>6655943
>desperately clinging to the animu is for pedos faggotry

>>6655363
>The dramatic tension of a superhero comic, must be about what happens on his house
???

>>6656209
>Dr pizza
Heh

>>6656209
why do ironic lolifags never accept their pedo tendencies? japanese lolicons openly brag about referencing junior idol videos.

>>6656018
Memories 1995 Cannon Fodder. Best Anime ive watched in terms of style

>>6655817
>And yes, amerimutt comics are all for making women fugly on purpose, one of the reasons they're failing fast.

Where is the proof of this?

>>6656444
You must be blind if you think that Cpt. Marvel looks good.

>>6656282
keep projecting, pedo

>>6656444
I'll check your trips but it is pretty obviously getting harder to make women more sexually interesting in the comic industry. Mainly because there's been a demographic shift toward women audiences, specifically "nerdy" tumblr females who have much higher insecurity levels than the average Stacy. This shift upsets the established male demographic for obvious reasons and all this rebranding is terrible for sales stability. It's not like they're ruining it on purpose but it's pretty incompetent business practice

>>6656491
Making women characters ugly to defeat the patriarchy

>>6656509
I can't even parse what this tweet is trying to convey. Give the right version more cleavage and it's just a side grade. There are better examples to get mad about

>>6655348
>Why can't western comic artists draw

>>6655640
Is that City hunter Kek

>>6655348
>nobody's posted araki yet

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>>6656842
>>6656846
To play devil's advocate, everyone in JoJo is hideously ugly.

>>6656842
>>6656846
>>6656862

>using the ugly shueisha color jobs

araki's art developed some bad quirks after ~2000, but the digitally coloring can turn into some real Ecce Homo shit

i do miss when sensei could draw better facial expressions though

>>6655351
My thoughts exactly. Wall-eyed look.

John Romita Jr is an artist who peaked in the 90s and has struggled ever since. However, even at his peak, he sucked at drawing kids. Using him as an example is strawmanning because not only has he not been good for 27 years, you're pointing at his weakspot and implying he is the precedent of all western artists in all fields of art
I mean, if you're gonna use an artist for this EAST vs. WEST thread, have you considered all ages comic books aimed at kids and looked at a compare and contrast between how artists who specialize in children's stories interpret kids compared to the artists who specialize in teen-adult stories?