/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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>>6629499
face looks kinda weird, id change how the jaw connects to the ear somehow. Looing at the extended leg, the foot looks like it's rotated slightly in the wrong rotation compated to the angle of the knee is facing. It should be rotated like 15 or 20 degrees counterclockwise and be seeing a bit of the top planes of the shoe coming upwards towards the camera.

>>6629705
your face looks weird

>>6629499
Why isn’t she barefoot?

I don't know if this applies as loli since it's not anime style.
But here's the gist, I'm not that used to drawing females in general, but suddenly I find myself in the need to draw a hebe.
In general she's supposed to be 12, so not little kid but still not a late teen/adult, but she's somewhat of an early bloomer.
It's super specific so it's hard because under those conditions she could already have an seemingly adult figure but I don't want her to look like a small adult woman.
Anyways these are the sketches, what could I change about it?

>>6630327

>>6630327
Is she suppose to be canadian

>>6630487
No, I still haven't decided on a face.

>>6630327
>what could I change about it?
Pretty much everything. There's nothing specific I can state that looking up references wouldn't do better.

>>6630327
for one thing the proportions (especially head-to-body) are like an adult. i think an early bloomer would be either a kid with boobs or a typical teenager body with a label that says "12 years old"

>>6630327
Ugly as fuck and definitely not a Loli.

does anyone have a little tutorial image for doing loli proportions and the head?

>>6631074
pause and draw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktLUDkdpOyw

>>6631075

>>6631074
Just find any character sheet and measure the proportions yourself. Use your brain because nobody is going to spoonfeed you.

Seemingly lost my ability to draw loli for a while somehow.
Heavily considering completely changing her hair so it's undefined. I no longer like it though i might keep the bang in the center.
DLC for hands will be added later once i change the positions.
Meaty legs.
Any crit is helpful

>>6630327
Look for the midpoints of these body types first. Please

>>6631074
search pixiv for 講座 ロリ

>>6631279
ez lmao

>>6631281
I really dislike this artist. Always creeping up everywhere.

>>6631140
yeah

>>6631314
How's your pornvania game coming along?

>>6631314
don't cute at me.... DON'T CUTE AT ME! l'll cute you up!


Seriously that's very cute, i really like the way yu did those ears. Thanks! Kinda funny you went with an animal theme cause a cat theme is what i was going to go with for the old hair style.
I've been having the most problems with the body proportions, head shape, and especially the eyes. Some kind of magic to it i'm just not getting right that just make my stuff look awful or not loli like.

>>6631314
don't cute at me.... DON'T CUTE AT ME! l'll cute you up!


Seriously that's very cute, i really like the way you did those ears. Thanks! Kinda funny you went with an animal theme cause a cat theme is what i was going to go with for the old hair style.
I've been having the most problems with the body proportions, head shape, and especially the eyes. Some kind of magic to it i'm just not getting right that just make my stuff look awful or not loli like.

>>6631514
Pretty cute

>>6631408
Why are you talking to yourself? That’s just sad.

>>6631514
nice pit

>>6631514
Holy cute

I think it's finished. is the bedsheet still too blue?
https://litter.catbox.moe/gmgtn0.jpg

>>6629499
I really want to get into drawing loli (nsfw), but I'm a bit scared that the FBI will bust down my door or something. Is this a rational fear, or totally a non-issue?

>>6632517
Its illegal and a rational fear, but unlikely to occur.

>>6632517
check that infamous page from wikipedia. by my interpretation you'd only get in trouble if you live in some cucked EU cunt. anywhere else is legal/grey area

>>6632532
what infamous page?

>>6632537
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_pornography_depicting_minors

>>6632485
your reflected light bro. https://litter.catbox.moe/o5gsco.png

>>6632567
This is very confusing. Should I just go for it? I live in the US, so idk if I'm putting myself in real danger

>>6632603
tldr its illegal under an unconstitutional law, so nobody gets charged under it unless they can also throw real pizza under that banner.

Technically they can charge you with it, but they're unlikely to do so because if someone actually takes it to court they could probably overturn the law (it just costs a ton of money and time)
However if someone gets pissed off at you and decides to throw the brick at you, yeah its illegal and you're fucked.

>>6632603
If it was seriously enforceable, Shadman would've got a few more years to serve on top of the assault with deadly weapon sentence
I can't speak for sure as I'm not a burger but if the most prolific loli artist from the US had to threaten someone with a knife before the glowies could get him, I wouldn't be that concerned about going to court over some scribbles

>>6632588
oh thanks for that, didn't realize the spine gap doesn't go all the way over the neck
couple questions, why is it you lightened the occlusion that ran over the legs? is the room too well lit for that to occur?
and what's with that light blue stuff on the sheets?

>>6632625
Occlusion is supposed to be subtle since it only affects close surfaces. The light is just the light hitting the sheets. It looked like it was in shadow since it was too dark and it the light hits the girl it's really hard for it not to hit the bed too.

>>6632567
how cucked is this in canada? reading the article some guy got arrested for buying a figurine from my nipland and one for a usb, are these the only cases of it being enforced?

>>6632628
okay, got you. appreciate it man
>>6632567
fucking outrageous. to think cunts with so many talented artists like france and russia would seriously consider maiming artistic freedom in exchange for some good goy points

>>6632901
Why is it difficult for you to take a photo straight top down? It distorts everything

>>6632901
why the fuck is every spic/flip/indog artist struggling so hard to copy this nigga's art style?? Serious question

>>6632901
good stuff but how in the fuck can you draw with that tiny pencil

>>6632916
>>6632971
sorry

>>6632922
dunno but I'm slav if that means anything

>>6632901
Good job and good taste, brother.

>>6632901
yo nice studies

>>6632901
If only /asg/ could learn from you.

>>6629499
Too thick?

>>6632517
Just encrypt ur shit, use veracrypt.
And if wherever you are, its illegal to not give out your password then use a hidden container (plausible deniability)

Additionally, use portable apps to leave no trace of ur loli files after unmounting said encrypted drives

And if you are really paranoid, use tailsOS
>>6632644
To be honest, you gotta be really stupid to get "caught" nowadays (use VPN, random emails, etc)

>>6634169
>Too thick?
ye

>>6634169
and otherwise nice drawing!

where do you fags begin with drawing loli/shota ero? i've always been sfw but i really really want to draw ero shota (and possibly lolisho too) but i dunno what or how to start with ero stuff in general. help pls

>>6634237
strong 'i want furry bux' energy from this post

holy irl oppai loli https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duQOQpfkDOE
kinda sad tho

>>6634169
Be careful when asking that question here, /lsg/ is obsessed with fridges.

>>6634169
thicker than usual, yeah, but some young girls are built like that irl too

>>6634237
copy loli doujin. my favorites are ponsuke and uousaoh, if you want some recommendations

anon posted inspo

>>6634551
post inspo please

>>6634565
from this thread >>6609039

>>6631314
>>6631460
>>6631514
cute cute cute
>>6634169
>Too thick?
i like it

>>6632485
>https://litter.catbox.moe/gmgtn0.jpg
I'll try and do a paintover for you. You've improved since last time I've painted over your stuff but there's some things you can try with your shapes/colors still...

>>6634551
>drawing pictures of actualt kids in provacative poses.
My brother in christ we need to throw you under the jail, not in it. Then you can be with the worms where you belong.

>>6634727
>This nigger doesn't know the most successful loli artist use real children as reference

>>6630016
>>6629499
Also, isn't the perspective of the background off? The pillars aren't even following the horizontal vanishing lines and the verticals not consistently converging either. Even the bench is somewhat skewed, same with the wooden paneling, it needs to be rotated a bit to match the perspective they're going for.

>>6634738
That's why I only enjoy wholesome lolis and try and avoid the pornographic content. Unfortunately most of them do both nowadays...

>>6634755
What's the point of this kind of crit? We can tell he didn't care to use a ruler.

>>6634868
The point is that it's pretty wrong, the lines can be wobbly as long as the perspective is roughly correct. The problem is that even just looking at it without measuring I can notice these glaring problems. Anon clearly put in a bit of effort to draw a character in a background so they shouldn't be lazy about it.

>>6634875
I just feel that critiques should be more substantive and not nitpicky like being a grammar nazi. You're going to have a hard time convincing most people that those are grave conceptual misunderstandings rather than simple mechanical errors.

>>6624566
I took some of this, but I want to still keep her ass Up, still not sure about it.

>>6634875
you’re just jealous of lifelike art

>>6635045
It is better than the previous iteration, but the torso still isn't connecting well to the ass/hips. The ass is too frontal compared to the torso, which leans a lot more to the side. The panties are also confused. They don't know if they want to be frontal looking or more to the side.
About the other girl. Her torso looks a bit skewed and flat, particularly in the belly.

>>6634915
That’s only because the average layman doesn’t understand perspective. They know when a drawing looks cartoony but they won’t be able to explain exactly why. Op artist should take it as a boon that there are people here who can tell him his lines are all going to different VPs which is making his drawing look amateur

>>6635045
face and body are too flat not pun int.

>>6635293
Man you are so good, thanks

>>6635293
kills the charm

>>6634727
it's not a provocative pose, she's just standing there

>>6635293
Good redline. Kills the begness

>>6635293
You keep drawing worse expressions than the original. Lifeless.

>>6634383
>pedo general is obsessed with children
stop the presses

>>6635454
>

>>6634169
The thighs are very plump but there are no set in stone rules, if that's what you want to do it's fine, the rest looks just right.

>>6631075
Based

>>6636048
ironic lolicon on the right

>>6631514
don't hide hands Orenji

>>6635293
aren't faces supposed to be kinda flat?

>>6636128
no

>>6636134
>>6635293
This is a bit misleading, the eyes themselves have curvature but the actual features themselves sit parallel on the front plane of the face, like a box. The brow follows the curve of the cranium but the eyes really follow a straight line. Only reason why the redline works better is because the eyes took a bit too much space on the front view and the cheek didnt come in enough.The curve cross anon drew is effectively worthless

>>6636144
Wrong. If the eyes were stickers or flat planes they wouldn't be pointing at the exact same direction, they would be pointing slightly away in different directions. This why one eye "becomes" horizontally shorter when the head turns around.

>>6636153
Retard, read what I said again. The eyes themselves are curved but they are not placed on a curved surface. They follow perpsective lines in a linear fashion like a box. The eye becomes horizontally shorter because the other eye is being obsucred by the nose and because things that are farther in perspective get smaller.

>>6636153
you need to re-read loomis

>>6636165
>The eye becomes horizontally shorter because the other eye is being obsucred by the nose
Wrong. The nose bridge has no relation to it in three quarters view, and it's not even an anime thing. Go look at real humans, fucking retard.
>because things that are farther in perspective get smaller.
Irrelevant because this only applies to close ups. That kind of perspective warp is negligible here.

>>6636144
is not just the eyes, the mouth, chin, eyebrows, nose, jaw , cheekbone all together makes the face flat, didn't feel like pointing every single one since they all are in red but oh well

>>6636173
Even in that photo you can clearly see the straight lines of the front plane for all the features. The features themselves have curve (AKA they have form that protrudes outwards) Not sure why you keep insisting there's a curve when you can observe very clearly there's a parallel relation to each plane of the face, most notably with the front plane
>>6636176
Yeah obviously. I'm not the anon you replied to but your explanation isn't very detailed. The drawing itself suffices.

>>6636184
Yeah, features line up in nice parallel lines due to perspective, but whatever imaginary front plane you're talking about doesn't actually exist. Even in the loomis example the face itself has all sort of different depth levels. Don't misinterpret the image due to the perspective lines. The face is not flat at all. Just look at the cheekbones.

>>6636194
>parallel lines due to symmetry*
Typo. It's the only reason you can draw those imaginary perspective lines.

>>6636194
Finally you seem to understand that is literally my entire point. My issue was advising to treat the cross center line as a vague curves. This isn't as precise as planning the parallels first, then adding curved forms following the perspective. The head The problem with starting with a curve for the "cross" for the face is that it is too easy for features to be misaligned and things to fall out of perspective.
The straight cross is ideal its just that you need to combine it with knowing how much depth the cheeks, chin, lips, and eyes have form wise. Basically anon needed to know the individual forms of the eyes and facial features to make it correct, the alignment on the cross was never the issue.

>>6636211
That what's you should've said from the beginning. The redline anon was pointing out the face looked flat, he wasn't saying he should construct the face with a curve or whatever. It's just an abstraction and it doesn't really matter what you do at the end since it's just a tool.

>>6635293
Dammit this is really beating me up, I think I'm even failing at proportions at this point. If I can't fix it I might just have to discard and move on

>>6636498
To be honest it’s pretty boring. You should just scrap it all together. The way you had i before was more provocative and inviting but you keep adding lifeless changes.

>>6636498
V2 sort of, I kinda want to take back Alice's original position, the issue is that I can't help but make anything below her knees look awkward.
Also I think Yuzu's crotch is a bit misdirected.

>>6632485
maybe u could go for a semi real style idk
https://files.catbox.moe/8ymo3k.jpg
whatever youre doing it is definitely not anime lol

>>6632485
I like it, tho I think the illumination on >>6636551
is great

>>6636548
You don't have to spread the legs that far apart. You just have to keep the balance in mind. I think it looks ok here. I don't think the neck connects super well to the body and head, but I think it's also an issue with the redline I did before.

>>6636626
Also I think the panties should be visible on the ass too, but I forgot about it.

>>6636551
i like the original a lot better, this shading style looks generic

>>6636650
nobody asked

>>6636650
thanks for letting me know, I wanted to know this

>>6636626
Not sure why this file was deleted, but I saved it anyway anon. I'll review it later, thanks.

>>6636666
Glad it helped.

>>6636657
free speech

>>6632517
>>6632519
>>6632609
Anything obscene is technically illegal, not just loli/shota. The thing is that obscenity law isn't really enforced most of the time. my understanding is its mostly used on people who have commited other sexual crimes to get them to plead guilty.
The last person convicted just for fictional hentai in the usa was in 2008 or so.
The thing that other people have pointed out is that any sort of prosecution is going to be done very selectively. It's a weird legal gray area, and who knows how much prosecution would hold up. I'm not gonna type an essay on obscene art. But consider that you can find loli hentai sold by mainstream retailers in the usa like amazon.com and barnes and nobles.

>>6636089
the artist that originated the meme on the right did a lot of studies from irl sources that can still be found on the boorus. that it got appropriated by ironic lolicons with zero self awareness is like pottery

>>6636945
>studies from irl sources
well thats concerning.

>>6636945
That's exactly how any good artist, not just loli artists, gets good.

>>6632901
N-Nina chan... L-lewd!

sportif

>>6632971
You use a smol pencil to draw lolis, duh. A bigger pencil would split them in half.

>>6636953
observation from life itself is essential to reaching a high level in any kind of illustration. the only hangup you could possibly have with this is if you unironically think lolis have no real life analogue to study from. in which case, congratulations for finally learning how the sausage really gets made.
>>6636955
this is common sense to other types of artists, but a lot of western lolicons get into doing art specifically to draw lolicon, so they have little to no exposure to what "normal" artists do to refine their artistic skills and sensibilities, and just uncritically follow the ironic lolicon rhetoric

>>6637090
nice work!

>>6637090
delicious linework and forms

https://litter.catbox.moe/u6hdb6.jpg

>>6637398
cute

>>6636650
Old style looks too desaturated and lacks contrast. Not as interesting render or color wise, usually if it were anime you'd add more detail with the lineart but op is going for more painterly western shit. He even made the sheets and pillow look better too. Might as well renderfag honestly

>>6637398
last time i open a catbox link

>>6638028
lol

So this one was first, am I improving? Posting the new one after this

This is the comic that I did more recently. Lemme know if I'm making any progress

>>6638055
Where is the cunny?

>>6638088
They had a dick for a while, but I cut it off, now it's just the asshole and mouth T^T
I should probably draw them fucking though....

>>6636843
There are explicit laws specifically targetting "childlike images" so its not quite the same, and people get it thrown onto convictions all the time as an additional penalty.

Is it likely? No. But it is there, and for some people it can be worse than others.

i wanna git gud at drawing bodies, how do i do so?

>>6638300
You draw them.

>>6637398
Whip whip!

>>6638145
The laws specifically targeting those images are probably not constitutional, because they are stricter than the miller test.

>>6636955
is there an archive of mammoth's art anywhere? seems like all of his profiles have been suspended/deleted.

>>6638489
sadpanda has a chunk

>>6638489
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/55392960

>>6638495
>>6638498
uohh ty anons

>>6630327

>>6638404
It's still in place, unconstitutional laws can still punish you. Its only until someone actually appeals it, and a judge actually agrees with you that its unconstitutional, but the entire time that expensive ass court case is going on (and good luck getting a lawyer that defends a "pedophile") your ass is in jail being raped by niggers.

>>6638028
sorry there is no toddler general lol

what happened to posting my work anon?

>>6638646
there's lots of lawyers who specialize in defending rapists and murderers.

>>6638745
He simply gave up like 90% of begs

>>6638749
He had so much potential.

>>6638754
lol no
Now I remember now he had a twitter where he had been posting for years and never improved one bit.

>>6638757
wow did you changed the size of the head on the left girl? it looks way bigger tha before now

>>6638757
Looks good aside from few small nitpicks like the palm of yuzu blending with the arm. You should really think about what you're going to do with the composition before going further, or it'll be really painful to change it later. Right now they seem to be placed rather arbitrarily.

>>6638757
i tried to resize the head but she ended looking more like 12yo girl so its the head/face proportion the problem it's not loli enlough

>>6636551
woah thanks man, you nailed what I was trying to do with the hair and lighting but I've been trying for the longest time to get something close to alphonse or kinta where it's a mix of soft brush on the limbs and hard edges on the torso with detailed collarbones, rib muscles, etc. not sure if the full airbrush route would be the best way to get there
as for the face I'm lately aiming for something like these
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=8492473
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3698608
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=5456078
basically still jap inspired but smaller eyes and well defined nose
>>6637470
yes I struggle with contrast which is probably why my grays don't look nearly as good as the guys I'm trying to draw like

>>6638791
uhhhhh that neck is fucked up broski.... ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you need some ughhh more rumis in your life

>>6638801
gomen... it's a difficult pose, please understand
but should it really go all the way to the side like that? she's almost facing forward an all

>>6638801
why are you like this filipino man, just give him the redline and refrain from the cringy dialouge

>>6637398
<3<3<3

>>6638806
>she's almost facing forward an all
Dios mio

>>6638821
ah okay, thank
I blame my reference though

>>6638823
Not him but also the neck doesn't grow from the collarbone like that.

kris

>>6638821
where do i learn anatomy like you, any recs? i already did roomis

AI generated loli pictures feel so illegal to look at lmao

>>6638861
I was going to say it looked korean and then I noticed the filename

>>6638862
Keys to drawing.

>>6638762
>>6638788
I made her body smaller, but now I see it doesn't look good
>>6638763
>You should really think about what you're going to do with the composition before going further, or it'll be really painful to change it later. Right now they seem to be placed rather arbitrarily.
I don't know if I'm even gonna give it a bg desu, we'll see.

How do i draw what i imagine?
Like if i imagine a bikini loli hugging a giant inflatable banana
i see it in my head
but when drawing it, it makes no sense.
Like it might be like her hands look unnatural if i focus on them or shes not even wrapped around the banana properly with dislocated legs or something else weird.
It makes sense if i dont focus otherwise it looks like an AI generated nightmare or something

Sure i can yse that as a base and draw from it with consturction and fundamentals but i end up losing a lot even changing things completely.

>>6638791
I like what you're doing here
thought i'd test out a brush I have
dont mind me just drew it to test how the brush would do with a semi realistic subject.

>>6639602
Get references first then draw it.

>>6639602
You just imagined in text form, retard. Now the next step is to draw and iterate from the words.

Ironic you being up AI when AI needs your text to do something useful.

>>6638821
>>6638849
take 2 on this with less sleep deprivation
>>6639652
thanks anon
I find that kind of brush that can go from heavy texture to pitch black pretty hard to use. the chalk ones are the perfect balance for me

>>6639983
post ref

>>6639990
I can't, it's 3dpd
it's completely inocuous of course, from a stock images site even, but janny don't like it
does it still look wrong?

>>6640004
>can't
Oh, it's one of those. But yes, it looks funny.

>>6640020
might be the oversized head. I'll just shrink it a little and call it a day

>>6639906
I guess that works, thanks anon.

Finished. bump.

>>6640371
damn, you paint good

>600 layers
I have a problem

>>6640853
Animation?
I had around the same, my CSP was farting.

>>6640868
not even animation, all part of the same image

>>6640853
the actual state of digicucks

>>6636945
Any other artists that are confirmed to have studied from rl sources?

>>6641079
All the ones with technically good art and also every single artist that posts studies.

>>6640866

I hope this is censored enough. About done with this. Where do I need to improve most.

>>6641182
Legs look a tad too small to me.

>>6641182
Yeeaah, looks like I crossed the line. Sorry. Lets try this instead.
https://files.catbox.moe/cyorst.jpg

>>6641191
You're probably right.

>>6641126

>>6641296
Colors are very cute, the face is fine enough, the anatomy mainly on her arms needs some practice, and the pose is a tad stiff.

>>6641296
There is a lot to like here, but you have a serious issue with the image looking flat and the form of anatomy looking blobby. Let me take a crack at the lineart.

>>6641296
You've got a massive issue of symbol drawing. Go back to the basics.

>>6641296
color and thumbnail are nice

>>6641296
Here. Your painting is charming but you've learned to symbol draw anime faces and completely lack anatomy. If you could get that down, I think you'd be great.

>>6640371
Have you ever done a tutorial of your process? I'm a big fan.

>>6641438
I haven't, but that's a fun idea. My process isn't really consistent but I do a lot of post processing that helps with presentation.

>>6637090

>>6641633
legs look completely broken and the face is ugly

>>6641847
your mom is ugly
but the legs are fucked, yes

>>6641847
>>6641856
beglets be like
"EYES ARE TOO FAR APART"

>>6641847
agree with this too

>>6642002
>>6641847
I think the face looks cute

Drew this today
Thanks for everyone's advice
on >>6641296

how do I fix the legs they look weird https://litter.catbox.moe/rfjkjd.jpg

>>6641847
>>6641856
>>6642002
It's the direction of the outer leg, isn't it? its back should be facing us

>>6642137
FURFAG SHIT GO KYS

>>6642456
Her right leg is more of an issue. Left leg is passable

>>6641332
No that guy, but can you elaborate?

>>6642493
Just look at the hands or the hat. The guy just drew what he thought a hat looked like. He doesn't even bother showing the form with the hatching.

>>6641296
sovl

>>6642468
I seriously don't fucking see it, would you mind redlining it? I think I need a new pair of eyes for this picture

>>6642137

just change her stance

>>6642531

I can't draw but i do have designdoll so i whipped up a picture on why her legs are wonky.

>>6642531

Here's a reference on why people think her feet look weird.

have this other picture that doesn't have the bottom cut off.

>>6642557
Ooohhh I see I see what you mean now

>>6642557
>>6642567
I think it looks much better now
thank you anon :3

Why the FUCK do i keep overshooting leg lenght
can anyone post a little guide of sorts on proportions?

Hello /lsg/ may I join? Im on my way to learn how to draw cute girls.

>>6642819
>Why the FUCK do i keep overshooting leg lenght
Because it looks good,
irl most of the ppl have short goblin pair of sticks

Please help! This hand? This arm? Something is wrong and I can't figure it out. I can't really find real reference for this.

https://files.catbox.moe/751s0n.jpg

>>6643061
the forearm overlaps the hand making it look like the forearm is extended to the front but the arm looks like its parallel to her ribcage

>>6643621
Thanks! That makes sense. I appreciate the work you put into the explanation.

>>6642117
coloured it

>>6645333
You're so close, but the anatomy needs work. The issues are the same as the last piece. Her forearm looks like it got broken, as it changes its curve right before the wrist. The legs thin out in a weird way and hare different lengths with the lower log being much longer than the thigh it belongs to. Her other leg widens strangely as it nears the ankle.

If you took some time to study the actual anatomy of arms and legs, your drawings would improve drastically. I can tell you studied cute anime face, eyes, and hair. Give the body that same love!

>>6645535
I went back to my drawing and resketched it
I feel it's a lot better
thank you for your honest opinion and advice

>>6645736
and coloured

>>6646043
still flat as fuck. do your loomis

>>6646043
Are you ironically using chris hart to learn?

https://litter.catbox.moe/r12zq8.jpg
hair ended up flat cause I forgot about the tree trunk so I'll have to correct it when coloring but anything else?
>>6642914
welcome sir

>>6647069
ass and feet look bad

>>6647148
true, that's what I get for referencing old hags

>>6647069
now draw me glued to her crotch

got to work on it a bit more and do slight adjustions. APs had me not working on it.

outfit wise, is this a good direction?

>>6647362
why are you still on the same thing 2 weeks ago? you’ve got to be that “posting my work” anon because it’s the same exact behavior

>>6647411
because i stopped working on it because i had to do AP exams

>>6647419
how old are you?

>>6647424
18 why? Im a senior

>>6647428
Nothing, just was wondering.

>>6647069
completely begtier, you need some serius rumis... ugh.....

I want to draw more like (but not exactly like) Oyari Ashito but it's really hard

>>6647435
lel alright, danke schon redline man
I really fucked up with those the tummy creases huh. I mean of course I didn't want to make it look she had a broken spine but don't those creases appear when you're you're as much as sitting with bad posture?
maybe your point is to omit it for a clearer pose but it's not exactly wrong, right?

>>6647456
It almost seems like you're too scared to drop your style to try it properly.

>>6647476
the gap between the belly fold and her pussy is too close which means that they are almost parallel and then you have almost if not a completely front view of her chest upper body, breaking her spine

>>6647435
His work is intermediate. There’s just too much information to process at once to realistically get these things right on the first go.

>>6643621
https://files.catbox.moe/rw1lsy.jpg
Thanks again. It seems to be coming along now.

anyone has that ss of dr pizza and the other pedos talking shit about loli then being arrested for being pedos? need it for something

>>6647435
how many years of grinding boxes to reach this level?

>>6647809
Give it a rest

>>6647508
okay, that makes sense, thanks again. I'll fix it when I get home
>>6647521
thanks anon but don't worry I think he's just taking the piss
I suppose he wouldn't bother redlining me if he thought I was hopelessly /beg/

>>6647498
do you mean I should just do a 1:1 copy for studying?

I want to draw like this how do i do it?

I really like how they worked with a few messy lines with some odd line weight that worked in their favor like on her thighs.
It looks like a bunch of stroke as they're so random but i know they're not.

I really like the gesture on the right that while looks uncomfortable really shows off her cute butt in a seductive pose while showing some vigor.
I dont know how to do this without breaking the form.

I know grey and 3 similar cooler colors achieve this effect when rendering from gurney's book but i can only wish to achieve this level.

How do i get started?
I really love the eyes and lines, how do i get started with those first I guess?
I really cannot stress how much the lineart is impossible to do.
Is it a special brush?
Also for the vagina area was it airbrushed or painted?
I cant tell.

https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=8089448&tags=nahida_%28genshin_impact%29+sort%3Ascore+loli

>>6647498
>>6647456
there was an attempt

>>6648048
Post your attempt at copying it. I can't tell what you need to improve without accessing your level first

Lolibros, I want to start a new coomer account for money, but I was wondering how good income is for loli artists? Can you make a living or at least get a sizable income from fanbox/commissions? Do consoomers support artists in the Loli community or do they just kemono art?

I was wondering because I was also thinking about going the normie coomer route, which unfortunately despise and shun Loli content, which sadly is what i desire to create the most

>>6648626
Same question. I do normal shit here and there, but a bulk of it is loli and I find it hard to get monetization and a place to share with a community.

>>6648626
>>6648670
there is no money in loli

>>6648626
I would guess it's actually more lucrative than normie shit since there are way fewer artists willing to draw it. Also on gelbooru which I suppose is used mainly by westerners, I see many loli pics from the big names get a ton more likes than high profile vanilla artists so there has to be a demand for it

>>6648681
Booru coomers are usually not paying costumers, and most of them won't even bother looking at your art outside gelbooru.

>>6648685
Yeah, that could also be the case

>>6648626

Unless you get some connection with a Rich dude from Epstien's lair who knows a guy who knows a guy into lolicon, you won't be any money.

>but I live in a shack in Argentina where I can afford $50 USD for rent for 1 year and

You won't be making money.

>>6648678
>>6648856

>>6648881

>>6648881
>>6648891
Ask Orenji next time he posts. He has a pixiv fanbox

>>6648626
It's extremely profitable, probably my strongest suite of income right after videogame commercial art
But like others have said, it's difficult to promote your stuff and get regular customers. I basically lucked out after a few of my regular NSFW clients asked if I was ok with loli
I'm not particularly good at loli either and yet sometimes my (few) regular clients fork over amounts in the triple digits upfront
I do things in a different style as well so it's unrecognizable from my regular stuff and I explicitly tell my clients to not credit me if they're going to upload or show the image somewhere else
But >>6648856 is right, you need to get the connections and in the world of loli that's going to be a tall order

>>6648922
Do you do AI?

>>6648954
What a FUCKING insult you triple-chinned double NIGGER

>>6648957
Just answer the question, scammer.

>>6648922
Thanks for the advice, (not the nigger who asked about Ai), I've seen a few big Loli artist with fanboxes, so got curious.
I'll just try my luck as soon as I get some Loli proportions practice in.

>>6648626
Make the art you want to make, but you have to promote your Loli underage cp art where people expect to find it. Sure there's a market for it, but also your "art style" is a factor too. Anime line art stuff is the most accessible I think.

>>6648900
>>6648626
The way things are going so far, I'll probably be able to make a living off this eventually. I can't say for sure but based on my own numbers, I'm pretty confident other people are making good money (middle class income). No idea how it compares to other genres.

The biggest downside is that it's hard to build a following on non-Japanese sites because you get banned very easily. Even possummachine was banned from twitter recently without even posting anything explicit.

>>6649173
bans come from when it's obvious you traced ukrainian videos.

>>6649173
And dorontabi hasn't gotten banned despite being more popular and actually posting porn. The key is not to pander to westoids. You are less likely to be targeted by mass reporting tranny groups.

>>6649184
>boogeytrannymen

hesitancy and asking too much questions instead of just doing it

>>6649173
The hell, he really got banned from twatter. And he played so safe too, never even saw any lewds there
Did elon re-hire the old tranny jannies from that used to work on that cesspool or what

>>6649240
What makes you think he fired them? Likely scenario is work dried up (a good thing) so they go after the cartoons in their spare time to look busy.

>>6649261
It was in the news. After Elon bought Twitter he fired almost everyone of the old staff to rebuild it with his guys. Anons were even speculating cunny would become allowed to be posted there

>>6649297
He fired everyone* except his security department aka the people who watch for the illegal stuff. Everyone else can be outsourced as I’m sure he has done so already. What you’re thinking about is a different line of work.

>>6649184
he has been suspended before, just on an older account. only a matter of time until they do it again

>>6649455
afaik he has never been suspended since he rebranded to dorontabi. He's been deleting his older work to avoid getting reported. That might be a good idea.

>>6649240
>he
she

>>6649462
>>6649240
Dorontabi's porn alt already got nuked once. His main acc is safe since it only retweets porn.

>>6649489
No, it hasn't. Check the join date if you don't believe me.

>>6649491
Oh, he just renamed it... I stand corrected.

>>6630327
I came back, before the thread is over.

>>6649535

Why don't I see any dorontabi copycats? He's pretty popular, right? but I've seen clones of far less popular artists.

>>6649538
Dorontabi copycats are notoriously inconspicuous and secretive.

>>6649535
>>6649537
Not like this anon, there can't be loli without delicious flat chest
Also face is too masculine. I imagine you wanna do something more realistic but in Loomis' heads and hands, he says you gotta be careful with how wide you draw the mouths on little girls, please re-read that chapter. Another thing is to keep the lower face short as with age our faces grow far more in the direction of the jaw rather than the cranium

>>6649764
Sometimes I wonder. Actually, prepubescent flat chest is a lot different from 'mature' flat chest. It gets the noggin joggin.

>>6649988
>prepubescent flat chest is a lot different from 'mature' flat chest
Anyone have that comparison pic by the orange-eyed loli artist?

>>6649538
we literally have our very own dorontabi clone itt

>>6634727
>he doesn't know
every japanese artist does this. you have likely fapped to many many drawings that referenced real children.

>>6650046
Him + his discord cabal.

>>6649537
what's with the strange clown makeup?

>>6630894
Lolis can be ugly too.

>>6650147
Maybe, but that's not a loli you nigger

>>6650050
why is that rubber so small?

>>6650181
pedos are known for micropenises

>>6650044
Found it
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/83691160

Saw classmate wearing skirt sat on backpack against chain fence during gym period. skirt front was up on knees, so her underwear and legs were showing. This was in such a way that I was a bit rude to my friend who I was talking to about tennis, via glancing repeatedly and shifting my position around to get a better view. The period after I immediately began sketching and burning it into memory the pose and outfit. Would it be considered unethical to base a drawing off of memory of that.

>>6649538
speaking of which, i really like this new breed of loli artists with superb figure drawing skills, i dont even draw lolis but they are good to study from, anyone has more recs? here are some i like
>ryo imamura
>blood
>masuda
>kinku

>>6650050
>laurab
good times

>>6650199
is that the artist?

>>6650203
fucking zoomers, no respect

>>6650209
what is that supposed to mean?? All im seeing when i google it is some german model, and like a sound engineer who have the same name

>>6647362
colored it in, idk how to color soidk if this is fine. Probably not so please give advice

>>6650243
lol

>>6650196
That's because they didn't actually draw anything.
It's all just traced and copied.

>>6650331
This lmao. You're all retarded dipshits. They didn't do any loomis crap. Just look at their non-twitter pages. They freely post their junior idol DVD covers and whatever they traced screenshots from. It's all just copied 'art'.

>>6650333
So this proves loomis is basically useless garbage

>>6649764
I did say that I wasn't sure if it counts as loli, she's a late js/early jc with a slight oppai, so Hebe.

>>6650331
>>6650333
imagine trying to crab on god tier kinku and masuda hahaha
probably just mad that your normie coom artists all pale in comparison to the true skill of the cunnychads

>>6650342
photocopying isn't a skill lmao

>>6650352
If it's not then how come you can't do it?

>>6650365
Not everyone owns 64tb of pizza

>>6650352
>Sees good art
>Thinks it must be traced
The only person you're crabbing is yourself, idiot.

>>6650371
So where's your amazing old hag anatomy?

>>6650373
Its not good when it's obvious that its traced lmao
like they even brag about it on pawoo
but of course ESL shit skins like you won't understand this concept, too low IQ

>>6650379
adult pizza and figure drawing models are more accessable yes

>>6650381
No, they don't. Anyway, enjoy your life as a voluntary permabeg, if you draw at all.

>>6650333
Link/proof?

>>6650333
i have seen more japs talk about loomis and other drawing books than filthy westoids who say how fundies are worthless and then proceed to complain about how they dont have asian jeans and thats the real reason why they cant draw like japanese artists . Aruurara has recommended morpho, loomis and james gurney several times.

>>6650379
sauce? saucenao doesnt give a name

>>6650453
80% sure it's survival knife

>>6650468
it is

(-;

>>6650333
they're just doing the same things normal artists do to git gud at figure drawing, but I'll forgive you for not knowing since you don't draw

>>6650333
what ever happened to changfire? I used that site religiously in my high school days.

>>6650263
try picking a shadow that isn't in the same exact hue as the base.
you can add vibrancy by picking other colours such as airbrushing some orange into the shadow to give some life into the colouring.

>>6650381
Literally, the keys of drawing and drawing from the right side of the brain improve people dramatically by teaching them how to copy properly and getting the proportions down. That’s what a good artist is supposed to do to draw accurately.

>>6650333
>You see. They actually referenced from people to draw accurately proportional people.
Lol.

>>6650452
>aruurara
>not even a loli artist
plus, they have the westoid sparkledog trannystyle instead of the japanese kemono style so probably best to never take their advice ever.

>>6651088
saeki tatsuya thanked loomis for introducing him to drawing. make of it what you will

help i can't do sunset colors properly
she looks like she has brown skin

>>6651276
>a beach
>on Jarlio 6

no

rip

>>6652283

It’s like I’m talking to a brick wall when I engage these threads as of late. Nobody has conversation anymore if it’s not attempting to talk about “refs” or plugin some off-discord bait nonsense. I don’t bother anymore. Other boards I can say something and there is a chain of conversation.

Really don’t get it.

>>6652379
oooooh wait a minute, the thread hit bump limit. Didn’t even notice.

>>6647990
you should do several

new thread >>6652408