/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>http://youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Instructional how-to videos covering mostly portrait and figure drawing from fine artist Stanislav Prokopenko.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

>>6629467
>He links drawabox
>He links Proko
>He doesn't link the goated Professional Comic artist guide
Here:

https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

I feel like I'm getting more readable but I'm gaining stiffness

Do heads count as part of the figure when figuring drawing? Like, if I'm doing a full figure, do I need to do a full accurate head or am I fine just doing the body?

>>6629477
Just make a shape where the head would be.

Suggestions for anatomy books?

>>6629475
Looking good bro. Watch your proportions a lot more carefully. Pay attention to the widths of the forms, especially at the ankles. Look clearly at the distance between the head and the ribs, the ribs and the hips, etc.

>>6629477
Yes the head counts. Usually you want to at least get the three major masses down (head, rib-cage and pelvis). You don't need to detail it if you are doing shorter figure drawings. It helps with proportions, gesture, action, composition etc. And it's useful to practice since you'll probably want to include heads in your finished drawings too.

>>6629465
Dogshit op, /beg/ has always been a place for /beg/'s to congregate, not just to post what satisfies your autism.

>>6629470
>still shilling this crabbing guide
fuck you and die

>>6629487
Thanks anon.

>>6629523
I don't know much about Proko, he's probably fine.
But Drawabox is the ultimate crab horseshit. You spend a large amount of time drawing lines, rectangles, and ellipses where he spergs out about what supplies you are "allowed" to use, before being told do draw 250 boxes, in a time consuming fashion. I can personally attest that I got to about box number 110 before I got so burnt out I stopped drawing for a good 6 months.
Am I better for what I completed of DaB? Marginally, not nearly as much improvement as I would've gotten from 6 months of just drawing.

>>6629535
And in comparison, the David Finch roadmap tells you to start by drawing things that you were probably already interested in drawing (figures).

Tried painting the same photo with different lighting.

>>6629465
Is there a nsfw beginner thread? I want to learn how to draw a perfect penis.

>>6629542
This is a red board, you can ask here, faggot.

>>6629542
If you can't use the resources already available on this board, and internet to figure out where to start on that you are N G M I
I would summarize a rough outline anyway but your goal is too vague and the answer I think you want has been given hundreds of time on this board alone.

>>6629542
>inb4 anon gets flooded with dick pics

Study of one of Kaneko's older SMT illustrations. First time messing around with line weight and the default csp watercolour brushes. Any tips to avoid the murky colours in my image? Somehow they seemed to end up both too saturated and too dark. Also, is the line quality too western-comic looking?

>>6629481
Please respond.

Drawing from reference then re-drawing the sketch to make it more dynamic and change certain things

>>6629465
nice bendy rifle there retard

>>6629465
Just started drawing about 2 weeks ago. This is the first piece I did something other than the textbook. I'm really happy with it, but I also learned quite a bit doing it. Any tips?

C&C PLS
Process here: https://youtu.be/t3m1qphzKqE

>>6629639
fuck, picture.

>>6629465

I have been drawing digitally since 2015 but only a few years back I decided to get serious. I want some fundamental knowledge because I have free time until 2025 and then things go to the shitter. I draw all day but I think my methodology is fucked up.

>>6629644
>since 2015
>start drawing with pencil and charcoal
>improves 100 times in digital painting
>why, how, what?
>understand space and strokes
>wow.jpg
True story

>>6629649
Yeah I did like 1000s of asaro heads and currently working with a painting master at my city. My first work is all fucked up though. I only started using color since last year.

>>6629654
>1000 heads
Bro, it is 10,000 hours or it is nothing worth doing. That is just to be GOOD. To be great, that takes more than just hours. It takes specialized hours.

>>6629661
Yeah absolutely. Some days I draw like 8 hours straight. Im currently working as an artist and I dont want to get back to wagie life. My only escape is art. Its everything i got. So I pursue it desperately without sparing time, effort and money. It is survival for me (I also love it but you get the idea)

>>6629481
Follow Proko's anatomy course to have some assignments, and use a book for reference, almost any anatomy book is useful, Peck's anatomy book and Anatomy for sculptors are the most recommended. Good luck anon.

>>6629481
pick your poison.

also since we are in BEG: you probably want books about figure drawing (which are more suitable for begs trying to breach into INT, since they are dealing with construction and simplified figures) rather than the full blown anatomy books which are honestly too detailed and many artists got pro without any knowledge from them. anatomy is optional

>>6629542
internet is literally full of penises. pick up keys to drawing but instead of suggested topics to draw in the exercises, do them with penises. Aka when the book tells you to draw contour of your shoes do it instead with your own dick.

>>6629642
Wtf you sick fuck

>>6629674
Epic, you are working as an artist, I am barely making it as an artist. At this crossroads but we are heading to the same place!

>>6629685
Yeah but I make 250 a month (I live ln a shitty country and the project is barely starting, the company is small) I have another online job and thats why Im able to survive. Im also a boomer. Yeah man we are brothers for the same cause.

>>6629644
I think you should look at purposeful/deliberate practice, it seems like a meme, but it's a good way to have a mindset that is not "I will draw 100 heads this week, then I will be better". Then you apply it to the fundamentals, if you want to go on this route.

>>6629684
its not that sick, its not even nsfw

why is chicken scratching bad but restating good

>>6629644
i cant believe tonyo died for this>>6629634

lurk more pls before posting this garbage

>>6629577
The line quality is not great, it's very shaky in some places scribbly in others. Try to do most strokes in one, consistent line.
Also based, I love kaneko's older designs.

>>6629641
As nice and polished and pretty as this, the composition so rough, look at the balance of having all those details I the upper 2rds and then basically dead space underneath by comaprsion, further disconnected from the rest of the illustration by the diagonal void running through it that is so prominent yet leads the eye no nowhere. That said I think just by expanding it out so it could be used as a desktop back group by just adding more of the star back ground and position the fae so they are positioned like this would help the eye to the focal point

>>6629743
Or if you're willing to crop I think even this helps the figure compeat a lot less with the flower by helping your eye flow via the flower for following the line of the leaves as the most dominant in the piece now that your broken up the voids influence

look at this cool ghost i drew /icy/

>>6629743
bet you feel pretty stupid right now

>>6629752
And some visual explanations to help if that comes across as ramblings

>>6629752
This is my original intent. However it will only be done on the traditional medium.

>>6629728
Chicken scratching is bad because you can't tell which lines is the real one in the mess of lines. When done properly, restating the line makes it clear. You restate the line with more pressure so it is thicker and/or darker so it's obvious which line is correct.

Is this true? Is this the MOST important art skill?
https://youtu.be/uEvcBIC_Nj4

Visual Communication is the most important skill you can have? Basically hyperfocusing on reference you want to study in an autistic way for a few minutes

>>6629731
no u

retard /beg/ here. I tried drawing a box freehanded like I would rotate it, and it's pretty easy if I use a perspective where the eye is looking from above at the box, but as soon as I put the eye closer to ground level with the box, It get's really hard freehanded because there are these tiny micro angles you have to get right, should I learn this too or is this too autistic?

They call me 007
0 reps done
0 drawings completed
7 shitty /ic/ threads made

>>6629754
lmao lines xd
consider quitting

>>6629743
this is the most dunning Kruger shit ive seen in a while

Who the fuck is Dunning Kruger?

>>6629465
>No storyboard
>No sketching
>Only a little warmup
>No script
Suck my cock /ic/ i draw comics the way i see fit I'll not be dragged down by your autistic norms

>>6630096
Fucking based i kneel

study of nausicaa

>>6629642
god I wish that were me

>>6629523
who's making money off the guide you stupid fuck? It's a free blogpost. Buscema, Bridgman, and Loomis are dead. Fuck you, stupid horseshit drawabox peddler.

>>6629634
>>6629731
Don't listen to this crab this is great for only 2 weeks keep going but don't forget studying fundies too

>>6629523
Sorry, I was a complete dick to you. Drawabox is fine for beginners. (I mean, it's just barel o

So someone recommended Coloso pretty insistently in another thread.
I've been away from /ic/ for a good while so I don't know how serious they were since it looks pretty much like another Udemy/Skillshare.

Is it just the current meme? Or are the courses really worth it?

Nausica study

>>6630220
Just draw

>>6630218
i really really like your drawing, it's very soulful and attractive. The problem. though, is that she's off balance, so I tried fixing that. Otherwise, great job!

>>6629811
post your box(es)

>>6630218
It's about to tip over.

>>6630220
I think some of the courses are worth it, watched some and they have good bits, they just aren't for me cause I like to draw while watching the course, and they are all in Korean, with subs in english, which already isn't my first language.
Anyway, you should try them, maybe you like the teaching, maybe you don't.

>>6630296
Well she's got good balance

>>6630322
That's not how it works.

anime dog lol

i drew some meatcanyon fanart

cat girl

Holy fuck Perspective Made Easy is filtering me. I think I'm at the point of frustration plateau right before understand but damn nothing looks proper. I'm on the book drawing part and I'm pretty sure what's tripping me up is you just need vanishing points wider than Brittany Venti's eyes before anything even remotely looks proper? That's tough. I guess I missed a part where he says to make sure your VPs are off the page then?

>>6630423
vanishing point closer = more distortion
kind of obvious in hindsight, it means the line is moving away from the camera quickly, things should shrink faster

>>6630423
Chapter 6

>>6630451
Dang. I mean I could tell that intuitively, just when I started to measure there was a series of "it needs to be even WIDER?" moments. To get most things looking nice they need to be off a regular sheet of printer paper at least, I guess that's normal though. Prolly something to do with real life and allat.

>>6630458
Look up "the cone of vision".

What books on figure drawing are there that go into perspective? Everything seems to focus on anatomy but that's no good wiithout perspective.

what do you think about these bookmark designs?

I would refine some details (especially girl), but I would stick to the overall plans.

The better I get, the more critical of myself I get. This is loads better than most of my work, but I'm seeing constantly how I could have done better. I look at stuff I was proud of from months ago and cringe.
I'm I /int/ yet? Probably not, huh? How close am I?

>>6630479
off reference or memory?

>>6630410
I want to rub her belly and make her purrrr

>>6630479
You will cringe at this in a couple of months as well.

>>6630493
Reference. I was resisting even using references and trying to only do construction, but I gave in and started copying photos.
>>6630513
Well that will mean in improving right? I hope so!

>>6630477
You'd have to make it pastel if you leave the line work that crappy. Pastel excuses intentionally bad for shit like this. I could see wine aunts buying them.

>>6630532

I thought you fucked up the face but it's pretty on ref.

IM TIRED OF GETTING NO (You)s. SAY SOMETHING YOU WORTHLESS BASTARDS.

Hey, Mr. 6630576-san, I'm sure how to link posts. Can you teach me how?

>>6630562
I know, right? That's why I picked it. It was a slide thread about female obesity. I did get the tilt wrong and I changed the hair when I rendered the texture. My initial linework was pretty close to 1:1, but since it's blonde and in only using an hb pencil I had to blend and erase it to get negative space for a lighter shade, making my earlier effort pointless. Lesson learned. I do this shit on the clock at work during downtime so it's all a win. I'm getting paid and the day goes faster.

Hey anon 6630587, you have to put two (2) arrow thingies and type out the number of the post you want to (You)

->->6630594
Did it work?

>>6630576
(you)

It's a new phone, I don't have a lot of images on here...

>>6629577
Huh. I like it a lot. I might try studying some of Kaneko's work soon.

Hello beg. Remember he died so you can draw. How dangerous it is drawing religious motives and then posting them on socials?

>>6630479
yeah. you are leveling up your observation so you can see the mistakes in your work easier. this is the hidden curse of drawing: you will rarely ever be pleased by your own creations. that is why its important to PYW: if others are liking it, you are on right path even if you think its trash.
>>6630477
the idea seems promising, the execution is too poor however
>>6630472
perspective is mostly about drawing simple geometrical shapes like boxes and cylinders correctly in perspective and in proportion to the others. majority of figure drawing books simplify human figure into boxes and cylinders. if your book doesnt do that, try different / easier one. loomis, hogarth, bridgman, vilppu, force series, morpho series, tomfox...
>>6630423
i heavily recommend to copy the drawings from the books you are studying. especially for the perspective made hard book. while you will be copying it you will have time and practice in applying the very principle it talks about. when you are trying to copy X wall just look at the line, the angle and then try to find its vanishing point and notice how it is on the eye level / horizon.
>>6630410
solid furry thot
>>6630389
this could easily be put into professional coomer hentai manga. he is that perfect old fat ugly guy who has sex
>>6629641
this is really nice but i would alter composition a bit: crop the pic bellow her feet and reuse the leaves by putting them into foreground and or background to create stronger illusion of depth (also it will introduce cool shapes of intersecting vegetable). And i am not fan of blurring her feet. Her feet are at same distance from viewer as rest of her body, blurring them doesnt make sense. But other than these nitpicks it is really cool and everything. The water drop is pure render orgasm!
>>6629634
my tip is to sharpen your pencil
>>6629598
nice furry thot

How do you sharpen charcoal pencils worth a damn? The second I try to get my 2b to come to a point worth a damn the charcoal just snaps

>>6630638
are using the knife+sandpaper way?

>>6630326
Then explain stop being so vague

>>6630662
nta but here

>>6630627
>>if others are liking it, you are on right path even if you think its trash
Lol, up until this point I liked it and you guys said it was trash. So, I'm definitely improving.

rough wip, does anything look off so far?

>>6630689
the wrinkles in the upper sleeve
shape of the seam between the sleeve and main body
random bump in the silhouette of the right trouser leg above the knee

>>6630658
I have tried both sandpaper and a plain pencil sharpener. Just rough shape with knife and refine with sandpaper?

>>6630627
Nekomini isn't furry.

>>6630717
there's youtube videos about it, i think you're supposed to take off the wood with the knife then sharpen the lead by sanding against a board

How hard would you have to punch a knife to go through the heart? I mean between the ribs.

>>6630772
Doctors just use an electrically powered saw :)

How do I color?

>>6630679
Ok thank u

>>6630627
Fuck you why don't my works warrant criticism or commentary of any sort

>>6630782

>>6630679
Well isn't her center of gravity supposed to be off cuz she leaning forward look at her feet

r8

>>6630841
when the center of gravity is outside of whatever the base of the object is, the object wants to tip over in that direction. so to be in a stable pose while leaning forward she needs to compensate by moving her feet underneath it. otherwise it feels like she's going to tip.

>>6630866
think you can also just lasso her and rotate right a little, looks reasonable

>>6630314
>>6630314
Got it. But I think I'd rather read some of the books first though. Thanks anon.

>>6630410
UPDATE YOUR PIXIV YOU FRENCH FUCK,

>>6630532
>the fucking curve in the door

Could they make the shop less obvious?

>>6630924
>doesn't understand lens distortion
ngmi

I'm very /beg/. My buddy borrowed me Simon Jennings "Body Parts" and there's this skinny-fat, ugly bastard that is so fun to draw. He does much better poses than the women in the book.

>>6630927
The point is still very much the same?

>>6630945
I think you just like men

>>6630950
I like the one with big boobs

>>6630950
can you get rid of the orc

>>6630912
I posted this one just now, I'll try to post regularly
I focused on simple sketches and basic stuff for a long time and now I see how my rendering/colors are still at beginner level

>>6630912
What's the french fuck's pixiv?

>>6629634
This is my 2 day streak drawing. I did 180s gesture drawings, then finished this one.

>>6631069
Fuck here's the image

My first time trying to shade a piece properly. Any bad habits I might slip into?

>>6630864
so true

>>6629465
Am I doing fine or should I lift the blue girl a little further up?
I cant get a good grasp of this

>>6631192
Grind some boxes and lineart you're still low beg to do this

>>6631195
It's a sketch, mate.

>>6630410
t rex arms

>>6631228
The upper arm looks like it would rest just past the bottom of the ribcage, which is correct.

>>6630389
>literal pro tier work
>ignored in favor of the mid beg anime posted after

Kek never change /ic/.

>>6631238
Just because it is artistically great doesn't mean it is pleasing to look at

I don't care if you used the most exquisite of ingredients, if it tastes foul, then I am taking an alleyway barbeque.

How much does confidence effect your ability to draw well? I don't have any confidence and I think it really impedes my ability to draw. Maybe I shouldn't try to improve at art till I deal with it

>>6631243
Furious samefagging won't make you less beg kek

>>6631246
I am not samefagging, thank you very much

>>6629521
>>6629597
i had fun buddies

>>6631245
Confidence is unironically everything.

A guy with half your fundies who actually finishes, polishes and posts his work mogs you to oblivion even if he's worse than you technically and creatively.

>>6631248
just ignore them anon, your art is aesthetically pleasing. it's probably some permabeg animenigger who thinks he should have been in the OP pic.

>>6631251
I don't know. The bendy rifle is a legit critiq

>>6631249
Some of my first drawings I ever did I did a pretty good job at and people responded positively to them but the more I drew the worse I actually got at it, not better.

I think once the fun lessened my lack of confidence got in the way of my ability to do well. Same thing happens when I play video games. I got to diamond the first time I played league of legends but I've never been able to get back to that rank ever since I started playing

>>6631238
>people on the descendent on an japanese image board, that's first purpose was to share loli porn and whom literally coined the term weaboo, like anime girls over a fat man
>Colour me shocked.

murderous dog from metalhead, I tried adding texture but it went retarded

>>6631256
You realize that you're using the exact same ESL syntax when you samefag defend yourself, right?

>>6631256
>descendent
>an japanese
>that's first purpose
>whom literally coined

>>6631253
I am a permaint after like 3 years of grinding and unironically my first month paintings have made more people happy than anything I can do now. Sure I'm technically good but making anything worthwhile is a struggle because my brain is bogged down with nitpicky shit and I end up in OCD thoughtloops like grinding anatomy for no specific reason. Or having flashbacks to someone shitting on my art and trying to fix that issue (e.g. grinding hands because someone called a hand of mine bad)

I don't know what advice to give you because I still have not found a solution. It temporarily got better after I had an accident and almost died, and while I was in the ambulance I realized that I've been good enough for a very long while now but the low confidence, "not good enough to make the thing" feelings came back like a week later. I did make some good drawings after coming home from the hospital but eventually the /ic/ brainworms started messing with me again and now I'm back to just brainless grinding.

Really the only thing I can provide you with is an example of what you're in for if you don't start being confident in your work. Maybe you are less mentally ill than me and it won't be as bad, but not being confident in your art can make your life really shitty because the feeling doesn't really get better even if you improve at drawing.

>>6630970
tiny feet and they're shaped like hooves.

>>6631258
>Samefag

Nope. Also I'm a native English speaker. ESLs make different mistakes to natives.


>>6631259
I typed up a big post addressing all those points but I decide this was easier;
>>NOOOOOOO HE USED INCORRECT GRAMMAR AND SPELLING DESPITE THE FACT I CAN STILL PERFECTLY UNDERSTAND HIM

>>6631271
>I'm a native English speaker
No you aren't.

>>6631272
Oh, I didn't realise.

日本語を話す時間推測する

>>6631271
>DESPITE THE FACT I CAN STILL PERFECTLY UNDERSTAND HIM
who said I understood him? Dumbass...

>>6631282
If you can't, you're ESL.

>>6631291
the joke flew over your head

>>6630950
bodies are nice but you really gotta work on faces and expressions

>>6631300

how do you overcome being visually blind to your own work cause im at the point that I can not tell anymore whether something looks good or if its terrible

>>6631310
flip it horizontally

>>6631195
crab nigger
>>6631238
this is the beg and int critique thread, no one wants to even look at that fat ugly bastard, much less critique it no matter how "pro" you think it is, schizo.

I made this in 15 minutes

>>6630576
MAN AT THIS POINT I WOULDVE RESORTED TO CRABING OR POSING AS A SCHIZO, GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR (You)s BROTHER

>>6631331
NGMI G

>>6631198
>>6631322
HOLY MOTHER OF JESUS COPE MORE BASTARDS

>>6631310
>BLIND
TRY USING MORE SATURATION WTF YOU LITERALLY CANNOT SEE YOUR WORK FUCKING RETARD

braaaaaaaap

>>6631351
What do that mean?

>>6631358
The loathsome /ic shiiiiteeer, oooohhhh...

>>6631371
someone’s seething right now anon just ignore him

>>6631358
The begsome caca cooker...

>>6629465
Thoughts on the main character of the story I draw in my sketchbook? I draw him a lot these days cause I like his design. I think I improved greatly over the course of this month too

>>6631253
>>6631267
Change mediums. I was painting minis and hit a wall. I started drawing and hit a wall. I went back to minis and got better, but hit a wall. I want back to drawing and I had gotten better.

>watching a video about proportions
>"men's hips should be as wide as their ribcage, women's should be wider"
>my hips are wider than my ribcage
Great now I have creedance given to my insecuraties

>>6631427
Hey, a fellow mini painting enjoyer.

>>6631238
>literal pro tier work
Are you fucking kidding? Vaguely realistic features and decent skill don't make a "literal pro tier work". That's just a good drawing, nothing less nothing more
>Ignored
Well that's really not something to be shocked, it's always been like that
Just look at how many times that Pavel guy is the only one replying to stuff completely ignored in the thread.
Are you mad because nobody is saying anything? Don't be. It's how it works, and outside of here is even worse
The lesson is: there's always a specific group of people that's going to be interested in your drawing, your job is to find it instead of just throwing your drawing on the street hoping that he'll find them for you

>>6631420
You seem really good albeit still missing some fundamentals. You're on the right track but don't stay always in the comfort zone
>>6631427
>>6631430
I actively dodge any kind of mini painting stuff since years, I gave up warhams because I didn't want to waste all that money and looking at minis makes me want to go back

>>6631436
THANK YOU for the input, I feel the exact same way. Lately I've been trying to stop staying in the same cosy place and learn the fundamentals, stuff like posing and shading and proportions and form. Anything you think I should target specifically?

I got some good feedback earlier RE: Perspective Made Easy (Hard). I redid some exercises and wrote this in my sketchbook as an observation/lesson learned: "observe and define your eyeline, then imagine and place vanishing points beyond your picture plane. if you define the vanishing points within your picture plane, you will deform your object(s), therefore at least ONE vanishing point should be defined as off-page. to achieve this without necessarily defining the vanishing point(s) in a visible way (meaning you have an actual point that you draw to) simply adhere to your eyeline and ensure all the lines that make up an object follow the rules of perspective (meaning they all meet at the eyeline and therefore appear to converge)." I know I'm just rewording what Norling wrote but that's a key part of understanding imo. Is this explanation close to what I should take away or do I need to try again?

>>6631238
>literal pro work
lmao

how do I apply the loomis method to the side view without making the depth of the head weird due to the spherical shape you start with?

>>6631481
I don't know precisely, but since you seem to have spent a good deal of time with stylization, probably you should at least dip your toes on realism. So a bit of anatomy, gestures and so on, but with the precise intention in mind to learn and memorize the mechanics behind them, so you can put it together with your actual style

copying is... le hard

>>6629465
What am I doing wrong?

>>6629465
What am I doing wrong?

>>6631553
What are you doing.

>>6631071
>>6631077
>>6631192
>>6631420
read some books man i dont know you fucking beglets have no hope

>>6631486
is not that bad to lamao at

>>6629465
>kept updating the drawing but I'll leave it for now
Is there anything I can improve upon?

>>6631506
Duly noted, big thanks again for the feedback

>>6631558
Have you posted anything? I'd like to see it

>>6631436
Yes, don't give games workshop money. You can paint minis cheap. 3d printing is so ubiquitous now. Before we got our printer I ordered some pin up prints off ebay for a reasonable sum.

If you really want to play you can find good proxies or second hand models cheap. If you just want to paint, there are better sculpts out there.

>>6631553
Everything apparently

>>6631576
you know your gay giantess fetish will hinder your progress

>>6631576
perspective and forms
anatomy, the breast lines look different from low angle

I'm having a lot of trouble conceptualizating this pose, can anyone help me understand what the hell am I supposed to be doing?

>>6631630
Reference?

I swear the damn Marvel book has introduced 5 different methods of construction and most of them suck.

>>6631638
Among others, I'm using a lot but I succ

>>6631558
Suck my dick, bitch. You think I can read? Fuck u nerd, reading is the opposite of a Tate W, beta.

Does anyone have tips or resources for drawing snakes in general? This one is from a cartoon, but I’m wondering if there are good books or anything since so far I’ve just been brute forcing it by looking at references and concept art.

>>6631630
work on perspective and angle. Put your hand in front of your face and move it back and forth. the closer your hand to your face the bigger it looks. the same is the with the sword and arm holding it, figure out where you want to sword to be and adjust accordingly.

>>6631646
Anyways, if I'm just going off the Finch roadmap should I be bothering with the section on heads? Or should I do heads and then move on? I am uninterested in all the comic book specific parts in the later parts of the book.

>>6631661
Aaron Blaise on youtube, not snakes per se but animals in general could help you

>>6631651
You should make a decision about the angle of the shot (low vs level). Think about what expression you want the drawing to communicate, your references give off different vibes. Some feel like the viewer is being challenged, some feel like execution.
After you've made a decision try to dissect and understand the reference pose. Like how the body parts are oriented and where the foreshortened sword tip is.

>>6631596
How will drawing giantesses hinder anyone's progress? It's literally just a woman from a lower perspective plus an environment drawing in that same perspective.

Hello! I want to kill myself. Goodbye!

>>6631609
Can you please red-line it?
I don't really understand it yet... something about boxes in different angels, but my drawing already looks pretty good in that aspect, no?

>>6631678
he can barely draw a face and he's trying to foreshorten the entire body already
he's putting the cart in front of the horse

>>6631638
>>6631662
New attempt. I feel like the face is lost a little so I'm going to zoom in, I feel like she doesn't come out as skinny as I want her to. But it's better, right?

>>6631609
I did some shapes like you did and am starting to understand it, thanks!

>>6631715
>forgot pic.

>>6631709
The perspective falls apart around the stomach and pelvis.

>>6631694
NTA but at least in the better giantess art I've seen, it's done with an exaggerated vertical vanishing point. You should consider both your figures and buildings with this vanishing point, where your current work shows limited understanding of perspective.

>>6631700
Ok but that has nothing to do with his giantess fetish

>>6631238
thank u for the compliment

>>6631717
Now work on making the proportions match. The landmarks for the arm are that the elbow sits at roughly the same height as the bottom of the ribcage, the wrist at crotch level, and hands end mid thigh.

>>6631730
Drawing extreme foreshortening is harder than drawing figures with none. You ought to be able to draw a figure to a decent degree before foreshortening becomes your worry.

Should I turn my gesture practices into fetish work so people will actually critique it?

>>6631742
Which work of yours didn't get any critique?

>>6631721
I made some ajustments, I think I'm on the right track, but I need to leave for now. Linework later

>>6631742
unironically yes. this board has basically degraded into nothing but porn addicts

>>6631752
Not a real thing

>>6631694
>>6631717
i have trouble orienting the forms of the figure
the background has incoherent perspective, hard to establish where the eye level is. ex: we can see the bottom of the car, so eye must be very close to the ground right? all together it confuses the scale of the girl

agree with the other anon it would probably help you to read about perspective rules, then you can start problem-solving things like how the car should be drawn for a cohesive perspective. but keep it up anon

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


https://youtu.be/Dp2SJN4UiE4?t=493
I NEED TO SEE THE WORLD BURRRRNNN THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT IS NIGH

>>6631752
*this website

>>6631759
LMAO how to get a coomer to reveal himself

>>6631666
satanic trips
i'm getting my ass handed to me by the gesture chapter

>>6629465
Should I continue with Vilppu or take a step back and go to a more beginner friendly book? I've been using The Vilppu Drawing Manual for a while now, so I'm not sure if going backwards would benefit me at this point. This is from today's practice, but it's certainly not my best work and I'm kinda disappointed in it, honestly.

>>6631747
About the past ten or so things I've posted. I think it's been about seven or so since I've received any comment about my work, and about ten since the comment was a critique.
>>6631752
I am also a porn addict and I might count as a coomer but it's not what I draw. It's probably just a matter of none of my subject matters being interesting even beyond coomer shit.

>>6631772
You literally fell for evangelical propaganda, you castrated nigger. I'm sorry you're no longer able to feel the joys of simple pleasures.

>>6631777
Blessed trips.
Which was your latest posted artwork on here?

>>6631779
lmao go back to jacking off you porn brained faggot

>>6631782
You first, eunuch- oh wait you can't

>>6631759
>>6631779
nta but you're retarded if you think there isn't something as mental pervertation and degeneration, it isn't normal to look at people having sex all day, nor should it be it's unnatural. Porn is destroying and dismantling western society. Everything is getting hyper sexualized. Look at fucking 14 year olds now how they dress, and compare that with how they dress 10 years ago. My female classmates in 2012 had lose jeans and tshirts, and no makeup. Todays girls all dress the same and have tons of makeup on at young ages, it fucking sickens and disgusts me and I hate this world the antichrist and (you)

>>6631774
I moved on after finising the chapter, but already know I need to focus on gesture practice once I'm done with the book.

>>6631783
i simply choose not to. you dont have a choice, addict.

>>6631742
Did you try adding "please critique" or something?

>>6631775
are you doing that along with the videos course? I say if you are having problems try the videos course or move to a different book and come back later. art books are meant to be use multiply times not just one and done.

>>6631787
Anon, we are on the artwork critique board.

>>6631775
It might suck to hear it but for your skill level I think that's pretty good, keep trying until you can *feel* the shape of these lump people. Trust me, it will help.

>>6631786
If that's the case, then you're probably suffering from pent-up sexual frustration.
Plus, I'm going to guess you didn't actually hate coomers/"porn addicts" until the internet basically told you to, ~2019 or so. Same thing with so-called schizos.

>>6631789
Ur too smart for this board.
Leave while u can.

>>6631797
nope i always hated weak willed losers

>>6631788
>are you doing that along with the videos course?
I wasn't aware there was a video course, could you link it? I'm a pretty visual learner, so I feel like that'd really help me out.
>>6631792
That doesn't suck to hear at all, actually, I'm glad to hear I'm not doing as badly as I thought. This is my second time going through the spherical forms section and compared to my previous attempts at these same drawings, I can tell I've improved a lot just by copying from the book.
>keep trying until you can *feel* the shape of these lump people
I understand what you mean, I'll try to keep the "feeling" in mind next time I practice.

>>6631830
it's in the video course thread on the board, you have to use torrent to download it. Also he has different course if you find that video hard to watch.

How's this

>>6631844
Is it VilppuAcademy - Drawing Essentials?

>>6631863
should be the same name as the book

>>6631864
Oh I see. It's called Vilppu Drawing Manual, but there's an updated version called Dynamic Gesture Drawing. I'm working on finding the torrent for that, but should I go for that one or the older one?

>>6631784
you literally base your personality off of a retarded trollface meme. get a clue and grow tf up you cringy kid.

>>6631873

no you’re looking for the videos, i backed them up a while ago but im scared to share them out of fear of being banned from mega : <

>>6631873
if i remember correctly the older one had some audio issues and is recorded with older tech. so if you can get the newer one get that but the older works fine as well.

Is this still beg? And why?

>>6631884
Not going to comment on beg or not but you need to work on pushing your contrast. It gets brought up nearly every time you post here.

>>6631880
Ok I'm dumb. I only ever torrent movies and shows, so I figured I was just looking for a compilation of the entire course.

>>6631884
look up Paul Calle

how do i into observation

>>6631876
Keep coping cumbrain.

>>6631894
draw things around you, also try and notice the relations between two objects

>>6631884
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8qJDyqzJsg

>>6631899
Relations as in where they are in the 3d space?

>>6631906
yes kind of, I was thinking more so in relation with each other. Like a cup and a desk.

>>6631899
when I try to draw from life I get overwhelmed with detail

>>6631917
try simplifying them into simple shapes

>>6631917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAcWM6rnnlA

>>6631887
Yeah it's like a wall. I keep Reading stuff but then i'm not sure about where to finish and how. Starting Is pretty Easy
>>6631891
But that's pencil, this is pen

>>6631897
keep downloading your identity from stale reddit memes and shush autist.

>>6631919
>>6631920
Thanks for the advice

>>6631784
>>6631782
Based.
>inb4 you worship that one dirty that jobbed to iron chariots, you can't have standards otherwise.

>>6631739
>>Drawing extreme foreshortening is harder than drawing figures with none. You ought to be able to draw a figure to a decent degree before foreshortening becomes your worry.
Granted, so how is your statement here exactly relevant or valid again? You fucking crab
>>6631596
>you know your gay giantess fetish will hinder your progress

>>6629465
I'm a near total failure at art. I like using AI to have fun and imagine what could have been if I were good at art. What the fuck is with people who are actually using it to pass themselves off as artists? Not even touching it up? Am I a better artist if I think if I can identify the issues with an AI piece?

>>6629629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfbK_dbsCu0

How do I move on from gesture? I feel stuck just studying it

>>6631998
nice gesture, but want do you mean move on?

>>6631999
I dunno, I just think I've been practicing it and only it too much.

>>6632007
then study something else, you don't need to get it all in one go.

dump of some from life doodles

this ones just a doodle not from life sorry

>>6631585
did this in five minutes with the mouse on microsoft paint just so you can critique

from life

catgirl

some pretty girl at a table away from me

>>6629577
arm proportions screwy but it looks alright still

>>6632007
>>6632013
Do a landscape or some architecture drawings. Or technical, like draw a gun or a plane.

How do I come up with more interesting poses

>>6632018
I'm honored that you'd want my critique, I think it's pretty good for a quick 5 minute mouse sketch, and it's miles better than anything I could do with a mouse in 20

>>6632063
coming up with interesting poses is not as effective as making use of perspective and framing

>>6632018
I'm honored that you want my critique
it's okay for a 5 minute doodle, but how come that's not ranma? you disgust me

>>6631383
GMI

>>6631232
nta but they are right. the arms are definitely too small. Elbows go above the head. Put your elbows up and see for yourself.

>>6631727
>>6631735
>>6631762
Thank you so much, guys!!!
I've definitely underestimated the power of the cubes. Also gotta practice my perspective skills. AGAIN. FUGGG.

Will keep that in mind now.

>>6632084
I think it's partially just an issue of anime. Because of her disproportionately large head, you can't use it for such landmarks. If her elbows reached to the top of her head or beyond, they'd also reach down to her pelvis and she'd be a knuckledragger. Nearest I can tell she seems like 6 heads tall.
My arms are a bit on the short side and the inside of my elbow seems very close to just reaching the top of my head, not above.

>>6631751
since the knees are both at about eye level there should be at about the same vertical position, and i feel like the foreground leg should be bigger but i don't know by how much

today I realized imagination drawing isn't just analytically smashing different references together to create a new thing, it's a distinct state of mind similar to daydreaming

I remember doing this when I was very little but somehow I completely forgot about it until now

haven’t actually drawn for a few days because i can’t come up with irl objects to study. is there another way to get good mileage when starting out, or should i just wing it at whatever’s in front of me?

Hello beg! Golden texture.

>>6632063
watch random action movie and randomly stop it when people do something. draw what you see
>>6632024
you live in anime world?
>>6631998
just go draw more details on the figures?
>>6631907
cute anime thot, are you trying to learn how to paint?
>>6631894
keys to drawing
>>6631884
same mistake as last time: you dont use different values to imply form which makes your drawing way worse. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/406460.Rendering_in_Pen_and_Ink
>>6631861
looks cool but think about lighting. if its like in circus where the lights are super strong then the diff between lighted and dark areas should be BIG. That doesnt mean you have to put the crowd in 100% black but at least his back side of coat and arms should be. TLDR push values
>>6631742
unless you are doing 30 minutes "gestures" or your gestures are horribly wrong there is nothing to comment or crit about them. They are almost mindless practice for you yourself. Do something more finished for crit purposes
>>6631576
hands, anatomy, gesture, form, perspective... the better question is what cannot be improved on this one
>>6631485
anon this is beg. you have to PYW instead of writing novels so we can judge if you can draw in correct perspective or not. But yes, the VP have to be FAR apart no matter what
>>6631257
inconsistent lighting but you felt the form. thumbs up
>>6631077
anon... there are barely any shades. work in grayscale at first and ensure you are using whole value range
>>6631071
solid ass i mean beg figure!
>>6630719
next time you will tell me loli isnt cute small girl?
>>6630801
A) it was bad and you didnt ask for crit (i dont shit on anons unprompted)
B) it was so bad i though its a shitpost
C) there was nothing remarkably bad / good about it
D) it was low effort
E) i reached character limit
>>6632136
if you follow art books you will never run out of stuff to draw

Teddy bears, what do y'all think?

>>6632016
Doodle from life? As in you took LSD and drew what you seen? nice one

>>6632141
God bless you, brother in Christ

>>6632141
>>hands, anatomy, gesture, form, perspective... the better question is what cannot be improved on this one
What about the newer version here?
>>6632091

>>6632141
Fuck you

>>6632099
Yeah on retrospect I think you are correct and it's the top of the head being too bulbous and an awkward angle that isn't selling it. I edited her head and it's positioning a bit and the arms looks much more proportional.

I also brought her one arm in as it looked a bit too far away for the socket.

>>6632141
all my beg resources tell me to measure and shit with subjects of my own choice. i feel kinda stuck because i don’t always have good ideas about what to study. i could try copying when i don’t know what else to do or can’t find something, but isn’t that better to do after you’ve built some drawing skills?

>>6632159
BASED

>>6632162
Yeah that looks a bit better.

>>6632162
hi lad op here, I think maybe I messed up the proportions a bit, this character has very voluminous hair

>>6632202
How do I fuck my cat?

>>6632172
Draw whatever is in front of you right now, you need to stop thinking and start drawing. Everything is interesting, a bottle, a forest, a teddy bear, your room...shieet, even a cup with dried coffee in it has some nice texture.

>>6632206
lots of petting and catnip

>>6632210
I see

I haven't made the background yet, but how do I improve using this cartoony style? I'm pretty new to digital art.

Should I go with a lineless approach or colored lines or stick with black outlines?

>>6632218
>Should I go with a lineless approach or colored lines or stick with black outlines?
Try them all out

>day job takes up the hours of the day where i'm most receptive/productive with art
it never even begun

Nice ref

Would anyone be able to tell me how to not make images save so desaturated through Clip Studio?
I know the colors I see on the tablet are different than my other monitor

>>6632284
Where did you get the ref?

huh wheres the begs?

>>6632493
Fighting for my life

Someone has an idea how to fill this part? I'm practicing inking and I have a hard time with the shadows of this abdomen. I don't want to fill it with pure black because looks lazy and ignores the shadow gradation but I don't know how to fill. I'm trying to go with a comic like inking style as an started, but have no problem with other approaches as I'm finding my way of inking.
Also I don't want to use grays, just black and white like a pen.

>>6631993
Heh'd
Thanks man.
Good band actually

>>6632641
Maybe like this?
Most of it hatching and the darkest parts in full black

it has been months but I'm getting back to art. i think i did well

>>6632693
You still need to do some gradation near her cunt

NEW THREAD

>>6632809
>>6632809
>>6632809

NEW THREAD

>>6630801
Because your work kinda sucks bro and it feels bad to shit on it unprompted. Next time ask for brutal opinions and you'll get them. Whether you'll do something with them is another thing, however.

>>6631558
You think this >>6630389 is pro tier work, your opinions/criticisms/advice means NOTHING and you know NOTHING.

>>6633029
This.
Although, some newspaper might adapt this style for a one-panel comic at its last page of the newspaper for boomers.

>>6629475
They look dynamic to me

>>6629541
some of the shading could be smoother if I'm looking at it right. Nice colors

>>6629577
inking looks go, nice shapes

>>6629644
iconic looking design, could have broader lips

>>6629654
needs more fine lines

>>6630218
accentuate some of your figure shapes more

>>6630410
meow

>>6630479
relax your hand when you are drawing

>>6630689
stripes look good, I think the neck needs to shape to the body better

>>6630945
more confidence in your lines

>>6631071
do you want it to have your fingerprints or are you not familiar with masking tape, and lifting your palm?

>>6631481
figure layout on the hands and feet looks good

>>6632716
Looks like Andrew Tate.