/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Fanart of the current popular stuff is the fastest way to get recognition.
Also, always stay out of twitter drama, simply ignore every insult that comes your way.

>>6625352
your art is ugly ugly art equal less attention
also not faithful to the charachters why jaundice eyes? why is jewela pretty/athletic/healthy parrot drawn ugly/lazy/fat?

Do you find your own art appealing?

>>6625391
>do you find your own art appealling
i know a lot of people find my style ugly and gross, but i truly love the style ive developed, i can draw a lot of styles like leyendecker or mlp styles but the style in that art is what i find the most apealling, yes. do you find it appealing?

>>6625399
if u wanna draw ugly do it just sayin ugly isnt what most people want

>>6625352
Do something noteworthy.
>collaborate with a writer, do a short comic
>make larger works that take you a month or more to complete
>a visual novel
>appealing animated memes
Do you have a secondary hobby that you could leverage? programming or music? anything?

>>6625405
actually draw ugly shit complements your style liek pugs or ugly scenarios like murder

>>662535 haha i dont think its ugly man, and im not gonna start drawing intentionally ugly stuff, good to hear your opinions tho but i dont find that sorta advice very helpful

>>6625424
its ugly u sayin double chin girl not ntentionally ugly lmao

>>6625352
>so anyone have any secrets youre holding out for a guy trying to make money off art?
>left is a piece of fanart i recently made

OP there's a "rule" in the animation world about appealing art, it's 1 of 12 rules, they're actually principles.

It's called:

>APPEAL

Honestly?
Your art is unappealing as fuck. It's not exactly ugly, and appeal doesn't mean cute either in animation terms, but there's no magnetism to your art.
The proportions are weird, the noses are yucks, the body lines are too angular and simple, that female parrot is cute, while her human version is a "La Criatura" levels of ugly.

Here's a great tip:

>Choose a niche or target audience
>Look up appealing art styles to said audience
>Study them inside out
>Then develop a new art style based on studies
>Market yourself to that target audience
>Post where they are, follow them around

Good luck.

I personally would never commission you, your art skills are decent, but the lack of appeal is a turn off.

>>6625399
>i know a lot of people find my style ugly and gross but i truly love the style ive developed
Then i think you answered your own question. You care more about your own enjoyment of your art than others, which is fine, commendable even, but growth has nothing to do with your enjoyment but the audience's. And frankly, not many like your art.

>>6625379
>>6625391
>>6625453
That's just what Brazilians look like.

>>6625379 #
>>6625391 #
>>6625453 #
and to anyone who wants to give me the "your style is bad" advice: i know you guys are probably used to pale stickfigures of women and twinks in disney and anime media, but this is what is known as a "style" with character, not some polished anthrophomorphized cotton swabs like you all clearly prefer, so if thats the advice youre gonna stick to, i apreciate the effort, but im.not going to take it.

>>6625352
Suck dick or be good.

>>6625535
>your style is bad

>>6625535
So start sucking or become good. No other way around.

>>6625504
>That's just what Brazilians look like.
WTF!!! Is that real??!!

>Do you have a secondary hobby that you could leverage? programming or music? anything
nah im pretty useless outside of the pencil, ive been looking to maybe get started with some sort of rpgmaker game or something, i have plans for a videogame based on a grocery store, heres a concept art i did for that

>>6625535
>if thats the advice youre gonna stick to, i apreciate the effort, but im.not going to take it.

>MUH STYLE

OP you'll never make it with that mentality.

>>6625504
>That's just what Brazilians look like.

I guess your average BR is buttfuck ugly?

Believe it or not, Gisele Bundchen's Brazilian.

>>6625504
no
you faild as an artist to depict a fictional brazilian parrot
>rio is stunned by how beautiful she is, comparing her to an angel

>>6625504
>That's just what Brazilians look like.
>>6625541
>WTF!!! Is that real??!!
Nope.

>>6625535
>manifesto about race
Look, dude, if you really think designs that are ugly on purpose are appealing outside modern western animation, that's on you, the crowd you'll get with that's the same people who will harrass anyone to self-deletion just because they draw a character without a beer belly (coughstevenuniversecough)

If you're doing it for free, go ahead and do whatever you want, no one's stopping you.

But if you are thinking on get money from your art, know that only commiefornians and tumblrinas like the calarts and the ugly on purpose style, everybody else likes appealing designs, that's just how it is.

>>6625504
>That's just what Brazilians look like.

>COPE HARDER OP!

You're a left-wing ugly nibba worshiper.

Maybe you can find a gig on Cartoon Network.

>>6625352
In my experience there are two main reasons people do poorly on social media:
1. Bad work.
2. Bad presentation.
You need to detach yourself from your art and try to look at it from the perspective of a consumer scrolling through instagram. If OP pic is what you're posting then its no surprise you have no followers. It doesn't matter how many fundies you grind, if your images aren't composed to take advantage of the platform then nobody will see them.
My advice to you is:
1. Make your art more appealing.
2. Specify your target audience. My woodworking account has ~2k followers and 3 posts. The market for what I was doing already existed. I was able to just post something well put together and Instagram blew it up. If you look at my account, you immediately know what I do and what kind of person will like that. Looking at OP pic I have no idea what that is or who would be interested in it.
3. Look at the kind of posts that get views and learn to play the game. You need thumbnails that will stick out in feeds. A white background with a couple of random characters is not it. You're trying to be a professional artist. There's no excuse for having sloppy presentation. Don't know what to say other than, figure it out.
Social media companies wan't people to view content. They're going to do everything they can to boost content that people want to see. Unless you're being edgy, no views probably means you just need to get better.

>left is a piece of fanart i recently made
Your hands create metaphysical evil and you should cease immediately.

>>6625352
Do you seriously think anyone would follow you to see more of the ugly shit you're making? If I ever saw your art on my feed I'd fucking block you in the hopes I never see that shit again.

That's the world we live in anon, people don't like art that looks like yours and you either got to change to appeal to the majority or stop whining like a bitch that you're not getting any attention.

>>6625352
The faces are ugly as fuck
Your art is embarrasing

>>6625688
Sorry about being such a dick anon you don't deserve it. I understand it's tough being passionate about work that struggles to find an audience.

Truth is you've just got to find compromises between what you want to make and what people want to see. Maybe tone down your artstyle or have every other post be more normal looking, idk but I do know you've got to change something. You can't keep grinding like this forever and just pray you'll make it.

>>6625535
ok nobody stay a nobody lmao we dont give a shit

>>6625352
>>6625535
Dude, I don't get it. The humans in the movie looked pretty cool, but why did they have to make those two look so freaking ugly? Like, seriously? They're from a country known for having hot guys and girls, and you come up with this? I mean, if you'd just tweaked the designs a bit, it could've been alright. Blu's humanized look could've been dope, but you messed it up with some weird style choices.

>>6625751
its unironically because he thinks hot white people are unfairly represented so he wants to fight norms by drawing ugly brown people and wonders why nobody wants to see ugly brown people

>>6625688
>>6625714
The duality of man

>>6625535
your art style is objectively ugly and you're hiding behind "muh racism".
See artists like gdbee, kiichan, asieybarbie, and more.
everything about the shapes in the face, body, and line weight are disgusting. even in a cartoon style. if you want to draw fat people maybe actually look at fat people cause i'm completely at a loss at how you think this "representation" is anything but angular turds with eyes.

>>6625825
It's fun when you think how the porn industry has made a fucking ton of money with clips of "ambiguously brown people" to the point that "latina" basically means "brown woman", which led many zoomers to unironically think that South America is actually full of "middle brown" people lmao

>>6625848
>zoomers unironically think that South America is actually full of "middle brown" people lmao.

There's plenty of "white passing" latinos, specially in Argentina and Brazil's south.
Those "latinos" are basically European.

>>6625861
And that's why zoomers, specially the ones that are eternally addicted to victimism and crt in the US throw a massive shitshow everytime a latino character in a cartoon has a skin color 0,0001% lighter than their established brown tone.
Latinos had a field day shutting up racist zoomers on twitter last year when these complained about a white, green-eyed voice actress being colombian for the Encanto movie.

>>6625352
post socials

>>6625352
appealing to the majority, sorry anon but even if your art appeals to you it doesn't matter in the social media game unless you appeal to the masses.
>draw the new trendy anime or show that the kids on the phones are crazy about nowadays
>start a stupid new challenge to gather some traffic from other artists
>draw in a style that attracts people

>>6625374
this
the more milquetoast your art is and the more cookie-cutter your personality is, the better your chances are of success.
self depreciating art and phrases are a must too, can't have people thinking you're in any way confident in yourself.

>>6625535
You’ll just end up like tableguy.

>>6625688
>If I ever saw your art on my feed I'd fucking block you in the hopes I never see that shit again.
Top kek
My thoughts exactly

>>6627263
honestly it's kinda sad. he actually has a really good style, but draws ugly fetishistic stuff. ironically, for some reason, he's incredibly angry at furries, imo he draws far more gross things than animals fucking each other

>>6625352
kek, this thread is a joke.

>>6625453
gave the best advice on here.
Being a good artist and selling art are two different skill sets. Even if your art-style was appealing (which even on a technical level there's so many problems), there's no audience for the subject matter you presented. Fan art of humanized characters usually never gains an audience (w/ the exception of puss-n-boots) and even if Rio was still popular for some reason, it's just another boring pin-up.
If you want to sell art, you have to think about who you're selling it to. Is it some niche fetish? a specific community? The general public?
Then try to find these groups. Do they use twitter a lot? instagram, discord, steam community hub?
And finally ask yourself, what does this group want? Pinups, animations, fanart, erotic art?
Based on just your words and picrel, I'm assuming your trying to gain an audience for a fandom no one is in or a fetish no one cares for, on a platform no one in the fandom or niche fetish is using. Your whole approach is pointing you towards a ditch.
Either pick a new fandom/fetish and/or find the platform your fandom/fetish is on.

>>6625577
CalArts really did a number on people

>>6627352
>he's incredibly angry at furries
i had no idea he was so based

>>6630020
It became a cancer on western animation

>>6625565
Just like actors and models are your typical Americans...

>>6630735
Humans like to see other beautiful humans, who would have known?

>>6625352
Unless you can drastically change your sense of aesthetic and develop new (better) taste, you're fucked. How on Earth you managed to miss every possible facet of appeal in that drawing I can only chalk up to a purposeful attempt to make something completely offensive to the eye, not to mention insulting to the original designs.
If that's the style that you like and you have fun with it then keep going. But if you're trying to draw for other people's enjoyment (as you seem to be), you HAVE to change.

>>6625352
You need to learn to color your drawings in an appealing way
Psychedelic stuff would fit your ugly style imo, give them a crispy gouache feel, but you'll need to use different brushes

>>6625399
>i can draw a lot of styles like leyendecker or mlp styles but the style in that art is what i find the most apealling, yes. do you find it appealing?

LMAO! that's some Bullshit XD, you're just art-trolling, you're a fucking genius, funny motherfucker lol

>>6625562
Nah she's not "brazilian" Brazil is a huge world of mostly blacks, meztizos/mulatos (mixed blacks, indians, and a little bit of latin etchnicity from south of europe (not white)).
Then there's a minority, of white mixed with the already mixed population, those are the worst, they have a distinctive look, like white but with big monkey traits, they look weird, they are mostly big, like tall and heavy. They have a retarded look.
And then there's this tiny TINY minority wich are direct nazi descendants, they don't mix, they're just a few, they hate brazil and their culture. The Bundchen is one example of those. She's a whore anyway so she'll marry some rich nigger if necessary.

>>6627263
huh? what happened to him?

>>6627403
>gave the best advice on here.

>Being a good artist and selling art are two different skill sets. Even if your art-style was appealing (which even on a technical level there's so many problems), there's no audience for the subject matter you presented. Fan art of humanized characters usually never gains an audience (w/ the exception of puss-n-boots) and even if Rio was still popular for some reason, it's just another boring pin-up.
>If you want to sell art, you have to think about who you're selling it to. Is it some niche fetish? a specific community? The general public?
>Then try to find these groups. Do they use twitter a lot? instagram, discord, steam community hub?
>And finally ask yourself, what does this group want? Pinups, animations, fanart, erotic art?
>Based on just your words and picrel, I'm assuming your trying to gain an audience for a fandom no one is in or a fetish no one cares for, on a platform no one in the fandom or niche fetish is using. Your whole approach is pointing you towards a ditch.
>Either pick a new fandom/fetish and/or find the platform your fandom/fetish is on.

You, and the anon you're replying to are the best answers ITT.

OP here's my advice:

>Learn business skills

Just the basics are enough, since you don't even know the very basics like:

>Supply & Demand

There's no demand for your art OP, that's why no one commission you.

When you realize that your art is either a product (Comic, Animation, Game or Painting) or a service (Freelance or Art Industry) and you treat it as such, then you'll make money from it.

>>6625352
the girl is so out of character here

>>6625869
>And that's why zoomers, specially the ones that are eternally addicted to victimism and crt in the US throw a massive shitshow everytime a latino character in a cartoon has a skin color 0,0001% lighter than their established brown tone.
>Latinos had a field day shutting up racist zoomers on twitter last year when these complained about a white, green-eyed voice actress being colombian for the Encanto movie.

Latino here, what the hell is going on in America?

>>6625352
My biggest problem is the arm/wrist designs are opposite of what they should be. Whyy does the man have arms proper and the woman has scrawny biceps/chunky forearms/wrist. Make them both the same for direction, or the opposite. It just looks weird as is. +her shoulders are WAY too small for the mass on her neck. You didn't ask but I had to say lol.

>>6627352
>he's incredibly angry at furries
Based
>imo he draws far more gross things than animals fucking each other
What??? Is that even possible?

>>6625869
tumblr got mad that they made honey lemon light skinned in disney's big hero 6 film

>>6631659
retardation + trying to force "latinx" to be a thing

>>6625846
>>6625577
Not that I agree with his post but how did you interpret any of what he said to be about race??? lol if anything you're actually *proving* his stubborn point, you wouldnt have bought up that topic if they were the exact same but colored white

>>6631670
>retardation + trying to force "latinx" to be a thing
>LATINX

I hate this word with all my being, and this shitty word doesn't even make sense either in my "latino" grammar.

>>6631677
I haven't met a single latino, including myself, that likes that latinx shit. it's ironic that white twitter which are so against white colonization is forcing itself on other cultures yet again
>yeah bro just rewrite your entire tongue + it's history to meet my snowflake needs

>Hears the X-slur
I'm getting ready to commit a hate crime

Fuck, the fucking slur made me stupid enough to forget the picture

>>6631718
>>6631719
godspeed, anon

>>6631690
>I haven't met a single latino, including myself, that likes that latinx shit.
>it's ironic that white twitter which are so against white colonization is forcing itself on other cultures yet again
>>yeah bro just rewrite your entire tongue + it's history to meet my snowflake needs

I guess they want "gender neutral pronouns" to be a thing in our language too.
I don't know about your tongue, but in mine we don't have "it & they" so everything here is either "he or she."
Just imagine the mental breakdown of the American trannies if they ever talk to anyone from my country.

>>6631718
>>6631719

>BASED

>>6631737
>we don't have "it & they" so everything here is either "he or she."

That includes animals, objects and even the local trannies.

>>6631737
The "male pronouns" in spanish already are the gender-neutral ones.
tranies and feminazis have tried to push the "gender-inclusive" bullshit on the language with the letter E or X, sounding like a bunch of retards

>>6631770
>The "male pronouns" in spanish already are the gender-neutral ones.
>tranies and feminazis have tried to push the "gender-inclusive" bullshit on the language with the letter E or X, sounding like a bunch of retards

It's the same thing for Brazilian's Portuguese, we have the "male pronouns" work as gender neutral.
Brazilian feminazis hate that a "male" pronoun is the default pronoun tho.

The world is fucked.

>>6631850
>feminazis
useful idiots for communism, as all the room-temperature iq retards who live to look for one excuse to fuck other people's lives.