/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

literally impossible

:D

Ms paint

Ms paint

>>6615108
eww why'd you make it so flaky

Are you having fun with your pencil? I am.

>>6615108

>>6615114
>tits
ruined

>>6615114
they're called arm pits, not arm caves

>>6615114
make her flat chested, shorter legs, smaller thighs and we're cooking~

>>6615114
not enough tits

>>6615137
Alright! Now we're mooing! I mean talking.

>>6615074
Feeling stuck. I'd appreciate some critique/advice.

I LOVE ROBOTS AND GIRLS AND GIRLS PILOTING ROBOTS

>>6615208
cyborg girls?

>>6615244

pretty weird experimenting

>>6615266
>figures like this

By figures like this, do you mean copying Asanagi or do mean find some girls with impossible proportions?

>>6615208
Meant for >>6615027

>>6615074
Thoughts?

>>6615313
Hey, that's pretty neat.

Did in about 2 hours. Tried out constructing the limbs into basic forms whilst maintaining proportions as best I could. Still can't figure out how to do boobs properly. I think I did okay.

First time posting my art anywhere. Any critiques or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

anyone here actually improved with krenz methods of learning?

>>6615290
I meant copying Asanagi, but if you can find a girl with boobs like that, you should absolutely ask if you can draw her.

>>6615470
> you should absolutely ask if you can draw her.
I'd ask her to marry me if she looked like this.

By far the best Asanagi is the crossdressing Kancolle's and the Amazonian one.

>>6615334
this is getting messy so I'll stop here
bellybutton should be in the center
the legs are posed opposite what they should be, I detailed the shin length on the left figure at the bottom. If you look at the angle of the hips, her right leg would need farther to reach the ground since it starts higher, so it would need to be more straightened out.
the curling arm, the upper and lower arm should be close to the same length. Trick to find the elbow position is to draw a line between the shoulder and hand then draw a 90 degree line out from it. The elbow will be somewhere on that line.
>>6615374
good attempt, you're trying some perspective but things aren't following the same planes. Girl on the right needs a lower torso area overhaul as it looks like it's twisted to the right.

>>6615498
Here's my reference. Sorry I should have included it to clear things up. Thank you for your feedback though anon.

I really struggled with the angle of her hips and ribcage. The pelvis is constantly fucks with me.

>Trick to find the elbow position is to draw a line between the shoulder and hand then draw a 90 degree line out from it
Good trick, I'll remember that.

>>6615507
I made her a lot more beefy unintentionally in my drawing.

>>6615509
take time measuring, try to imagine the center line on her.
wouldn't be a bad idea to try tracing over the image once before you try drawing it by eye

Any way I can improve?

>>6615528
there are ways, yes.

>>6615507
tried to do a quick one too

How can I find time to draw when I’m always crying about the world’s hatred of trans people?

>>6615528
No you've reached peak performance.

>>6615635
If you can't beat'em, join'em. Fuck trannies, more specifically, fuck the postmodernist political agenda that has adopted trannies as their poster children.

>>6615635
Join the 41%

>>6615644
I hear righties talk about trannies and drag an order of magnitude more than lefties.

How do I break my habit of symbol drawing and get better at actually drawing what I'm looking at?

>>6615761
Try drawing from imagination for a little while. Force yourself to construct it in your head because the symbols are no longer in front of you.

>>6615761
Draw forms

I am pretty sure I am doing figure drawing wrong.
Gonna start with FWIAP instead of just grotesquely copying shit.
Where to start with faces?

>>6615813
taberu

How in God's name to you hold and draw with a stylus? I can't hold it on its side like I do when drawing traditionally.

>>6615814
tsukuru :)

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you: Zephyr the humanoid hydra (as in microscopic hydra)

>>6615820
nigga just drew a version of squidward I wanna fuck

>>6615493
>By far the best Asanagi is the crossdressing Kancolle's
my man

Some rendering practice

Decided to try drawing an anime femboy using what I have been learning from Bridgman, and unsurprisingly, it looks rather jarring.

>>6615912
Reference, for reference.

>>6615934
);

>>6615912
>>6615244
Why should one do bridgman I have his book but it all looks so shit especially the heads + it looks like they've scanned a scan of a scan of a scan of his drawings.
Am I filtered? I know a lot of good artists recommend him but it just seems so outdated.

>>6615948
I think Bridgman's drawings are amazingly beautiful. If he's not to your taste, go study someone else you like more

>>6615074
It's been about two months since I started and I got a little bit better compared to last month. I'm drawing at a casual pace but I'm thinking going full autismo next month.

>>6615948
David Finch (who I think is how lot of people run into Bridgman) straight up says to ignore the heads and his words. But he also says you're ngmi if you don't draw through Bridgman and then do it again from imagination.

>>6615977
I think drawing through the book twice just shows you have the work ethic and drive to make it not necessarily that it will give you some great insight that can't be learned elsewhere.

>>6615948
Chapters are short and to the point and illustrations are fun to copy. I like how he goes through basics: center line, shape simplification, shading, gesture, round/square form alternation rapidly before going into anatomy (which I don't know if you should copy from him or someone else).

>>6615890
dont mind me just did a small paintover

bridgman drawings are ugly as shit

>>6615984
I think the step of drawing without looking at it is important to see if you memorized it

drawing on the phone is pretty hard

>have trouble drawing heads as they always end up being too short or something
>line quality is shit, generally
>at last break in and use line tool
>add some construction for direction/jaw
>tfw now can copy heads in somewhat timely manner
There is hope.
I suppose I can use line tool for limbs and so on.

>>6615996
reply to me, you bitter cunt

daily reminder that jews invented abstract art because they have no spatial awareness

>trapezoid game weak
Its over.

>>6615948
the figures are drawn in ways that illuminate so much about the figure when copying through and analyzing, even though they may not look so simple and "beginner friendly". Drawing his figures in the various forms that he makes them slowly reveals so many insights that you might not get from something a lot simpler, while also being healthily exaggerated and constructed in a manageable way so as not to be overwhelming. The inconsistency in the methods he uses makes it so that each figure reveals different little tidbits that you can pick out, rather than every figure being either some complex muscle diagram or some youtube construction.

>>6616052
well put

Shade then color, or color then shade?

>>6615813
Very kawaii

I think I'm gonna call this done. Pretty happy with how it turned out, learned a lot and enjoyed drawing it. Not too bad for a first piece imo.

Critiques/pointers very welcome.

how can paint/render like picrel? with the sort of visible brush strokes, i guess? would it be just like any regular digital painting course?

Shat out another one at work. I feel I'm back to getting marginally better. I fucked up the line where the left thigh meets the torso, but didn't notice until I was done. Also, I made the torso too long and the face too narrow, which is funny because I usually make the girl too squat and thicc.

Did this in 30 min

jus a quick drawing

I am going to copy Yoh Yoshinari's rough sketch book and Hampton

quick dog copy

>>6616237
you threw proportion out of the window entirely

next time Ill use a line tool for the building

>>6616188
is he shooting fleshlights?

Are the "you need to practice 3-4 hours daily or you're ngmi" right or just doomsaying?

>>6616307
Let's say you have someone who efficiently practices 8-10 hours a day and then you have you who does the same but for 30 minutes a day who is going to make it?

>>6616310
I am currently on about 90 minutes 4 days a week, ~3 hours 3 days a week.
This also assumes my time isn't spent productively and there only will be one person to make it.

i want to try oil painting, but i dont know how to start.
ive got barebones experience with watercolours but with oil paints i dont know what kinds of brushes or materials to have

>>6616279
You wanna draw weeb or western?

Otome from shimoneta. Rough sketch

Can I get a redline? I keep trying but I can't get what seems off.

>>6616380
Fuck

Why does painting with the GPen in CSP feel so much better than with the pen?

>>6616322
Weeb, i started hampton's book cause i like his gesture and construction process but i havent gotten that far into it yet

>>6616394
maybe skip to the part where he teaches gestures, I think he has a video, here https://youtu.be/sSzB3ESpfE0

Do that and copy from favorite artists like yoshinari

>>6616381
This looks fine Anon. The thighs are a bit thick, the abdominal anatomy like the bellybutton is a bit misplaced and the arm could use more love but for the most part, this is solid. Try not to be a perfectionist with bridgeman there are way too many drawings for that

>>6616408
Anon if you keep calling him "Bridgeman" I will find you and I will hurt you.

>>6616410
Is that not his name? Would you rather me call him George?

>>6615689
Because lefties don't percieve the negative effects, righties do. People are much more likely to crusade against what they percieve as evil than crusade for what they believe is good.

Messing with line width

>>6615777
I'd recommend Keys To Drawing first. It teaches observational skills, then move onto Hampton for figure.

>>6615949
This one actually looks a little cool from the thumbnail.

>>6616190
Just don't blend your brush strokes.

How well can you draw udders?

>>6616422
Effective. Good job.

>>6616434
Why do women mutilate themselves like this? Sure, it's painful but with tits like that you could easily get a rich man to pay for whatever pain meds you need.

>>6615975
Good progress anon. Remember to study fundamentals fist!

>>6616434
>>6616436
bitch should have just worked out her back like crazy to keep those beautiful milk bags. Shameful, truly.

>muh David Finch, muh Marvel

Okay but what if I don't want to draw like a westoid? Is there any widely agreed upon route to draw in the Mongoloid style?

>>6616434
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>6616444
Yes, but either way you have to learn the fundamentals, and they are the same nomatter the style. After you are good at gestures, volumes, basic construction and perspective, you can start copying anime for days on end with the tools you learned. Copy until you can do it from imagination. Simple as.

>>6616434
*pop*

>>6616451
Kek

>>6616414
Curious

Okay, here we go.

>>6616458
>Bridgeman is now bridgman

I've entered a new universe, neat.

>>6616462
Always has been

>>6616458
Fuck you

>>6616466
Back in my dimension it was Bridgeman. Just have to figure out what happened to cause the shift.

should i bother posting my drawabox homework to their discord if i did it digitally

>>6616471
Probably not. At least through the 250 box challenge you should be able to figure out how you are doing.

Why

>>6616483
Yeah fucking sucks, I always wanted to get a humidifyer for my room because it's dry as shit epsecially in the winter.

decided to paint it

>>6616403
Oh yeah, ive watched that and few of his other videos. Theres one on prokos site that was really helpful for me

>Get an idea I'm excited about
>Still /beg/ so slow
>End up bored/hating the idea around 15% of the way
Should I force myself to finish?

>>6616500
Cool

>>6616512
> being bad at drawing
> draw more
> getting good at drawing
> make good works
> feel better
It's a picture. Just do smt else and come back to it later. If you are in the mood, then finish it. If you don't feel like it then just move on. Drawing is supposed to be fun.

>>6616532
>Drawing is supposed to be fun.
NO

>>6615948
Bridgman's faces are legitimately bad and retarded, but the way he expresses the figure as these tightly interlocked masses, like a living machine, is a thing of beauty.

Your god David Finch erases all the time. Why do you spout this nonsense about not erasing?

>>6616009
>line tool
The whole point of copying is to get your hand and your eyes to work together to accurately recreate what you see. Using shape tools to get heads done 'faster' is actively working against yourself. You're not going to get better by avoiding what you're bad at doing.

>>6616540
additionally, David Finch clearly is drawing from the wrist in the majority of his recorded videos. What is your response?

>>6615912
I can see a little bit of anatomy in this, so I think you're probably picking something up from Bridgman, but I'll be honest I would never look at this and think "this guy's been studying his Bridgman". That said, if this is the level you're at, I would put Bridgman down and come back to him when you're more of an intermediate, and focus on basic form studies (box and cylinder mannequins, etc.) and line confidence. Also draw bigger, any drawing where I can see this much paper texture and little eraser bits is basically microscopic in terms of drawing a human being. Drawing small is a whole extra thing to learn and you're adding a massive layer of difficulty by doing this.

>>6615777
Not terrible - these are pretty credible super-beg figure drawings. I'd draw from real people for sure, not anything stylized, and make sure you're spending a TON of time doing basic, basic fundies (cubes and cylinders - alone at first, then stuck together into mannequins). If you want to draw legit heads you should also focus on real people, the skull etc. via a method like Loomis (or any other Loomis-esque head method but his has the most resources). Mostly you just have a HUGE amount of mileage ahead of you, the best thing you can do is draw a tremendous amount.

I love drawing with the gpen, especially things like eyes and lines. tried to copy this eye and snek from a guy in the draw thread, really liked it. I'm always deciding if I should copy/study with the gpen or a simple pencil brush. Gpen is more fun

>>6616595
forgot pic.

something I have been working on. Happy with how it's turning out so far.

>>6616597
me like, but the punch apparatus looks a bit weirdly placed, is it a prosthetic or a weapon?

>>6615114
Eyes look very off.

>>6616588
>super-beg figure drawings
>super-beg
What have I been doing all this fucking time...

>>6616619
getting to this point? it's a journey

>>6616602
...yes

Draw this pose.

>>6616680
stop shitposting and pyw you fucking coomer

>>6616681
>coomer
Maybe this is a better pose for you you fucking faggot. Or do you want to draw cubes and fruits or fat fucking landwhales?

>>6616684
says the faggot who downloaded this image onto their computer. Stop asking for free art to fulfill your coomer fantasies.

>>6616684
>>6616681
Fuck both of you! Pyw or gtfo

Finished this, anything I can improve on?

I know I polished a turd but I had fun doing it

I can't stop using The Mouse™ and MS paint.

>>6616619
Don't take it like that, I was leaning hard on "credible" not "super-beg" - they ARE beginner level drawings but I can see you're trying to construct things and consider the depth of forms, and they're not chicken scratch or wildly disproportionate - they look like you actually tried and you care about your result. Like the other anon said it's about the journey, you'll get there.

Today's crap.
>>6616770
My problem is that I don't know where the journey is or where it is taking me.
It feels like I am just wallowing in my own shit instead of going forward anywhere.

What's the best way to study a book like Hampton or Bridgman?

>>6616778
by reading vilppu

>>6616778
>>6616795
unironically this.

A reminder to just draw. Draw some practice, try to copy a ref, hell even doodle, anything to help with your wrist and arm control. Most of all, draw because you feel like it.
Don't matter how crap it looks, as long as you make something just that little bit better than last time, you are gmi. Draw, learn, redraw, grow.
This might be cope, might not be, still got a dream to work on in between wageslaving.

Redid it.

>>6616775
hey can you post that ref please, i'll try it.

>>6616775
do a project, it gives you concrete things to work on and every bit of effort naturally coalesces into something greater

>>6616795
What makes Vilppu much better than Hampton or Bridgman?

>>6616808
You need to measure more, for example her illiac crest on her left side in the picture sits below the curve of her waist.

In your drawing you have the crest in the middle of her waist. Also her left shoulder is shrugging and should be higher than her right shoulder.

>>6616811
good advice

>>6616813
Vilppu gives you a very step by step gradual method to construction. Lines into spheres, spheres into boxes, combining spheres and boxes. There's no step missing, and the beginner isn't rushing ahead too fast.

Read the text of his drawing manual. You're not ONLY drawing basic forms. You're applying the forms to characters drawn from imagination, master copies, and from life. But you are actively limiting yourself, first, to spheres, then, to boxes, then spheres and boxes, and only finally, at the end, cylinders.

Michael Hampton rushes past form too quickly, and he sort of just expects you to "pick it up" as you draw. If that works for you, great, but anon asked how to understand Hampton and Bridgman, and Vilppu's method works best. Vilppu taught Hampton, after all.

After studying the basics this is my attempt, it still looks bad and feels uncomfortable but for me it is a considerable improvement. There is still a long way to go. I accept criticism feel free.

>>6616571
While I do appreciate the critiques, I am limited in sketchbook size and medium as this is just mechanical pencil and the small sketchbook that neatly fit in my toolbag so I can draw a little bit while at work. I think part of my current issue with line confidence is mechanical pencil, where line weight and value comes with scratchiness, so I'm planning on trying out charcoal this weekend. Any sources for mannequin practice you'd like to plug? Before this I was doing drawabox which was too miserable and tedious for me.

>>6616894
Just make the chin a bit allinged with the lips and the ear should stick out more then it's cute, Touch yourself and feel where the ear connects to, more or less jawline

Forgot to flip the drawing before rendering it out so it looks a bit off lol

Look, I tried and spent way too long on this turd. But honestly, I'm kind of happy with it since I learnt a bit.

>I don't know how to draw hands, feet, faces and I don't know how to shade.

>>6617030
FUCK, HER FOREARM!

>>6617030
Fixed up some little bits.

Trying to figure out heads. My spider senses are tingling. What did I do wrong?

>>6617041
wrong file

Some figure drawing practice. Bottom ones I tried to do in less than 15 minutes.

>>6617050
Where did you get those photos from?

>>6616546
Yeah, but maybe I will get an ocular feel on how large the head is supposed to be.

>>6617064
Pinterest. But the search censor is really fucking gay and annoying so you have to be original with how you search for bikini-clad women.

Messing around with a sketch last night

>>6617132
What brush settings did you use?

>>6617134
Regular CSP pencil. I keep putting off trying new brushes.

There's also a very small amount of hard round I used for blocking in the 'colour'

>>6617047
your jaw is too small i think

>>6617047
Jaw is too small, nose and mouth shifted down, far eye perspective is wrong.
Do you have construction lines still or better yet a reference? Even just grabbing a 3d model from anywhere will help with angles like this to compare against and take two seconds to set up if you're just focusing the head.

>>6616775
I'll be honest with you, that's part of it. You are going to experience that self doubt pretty much non-stop throughout your whole life as an artist (or you will if you're challenging yourself enough to improve). If you can find the motivation to do it constantly anyway you'll look back every year and be amazed every time how much you've improved.

That said... get some real figure drawing references - drawing close up short lens stuff like this is not probably helping you right now (this photo is extremely distorted). Eventually you'll want to learn to draw that sort of "lens" for dynamism but in the early days it's going to make it hard to develop a natural sense of proportion.

>>6616934
I mean if that's what you got, that's what you got - I started in a moleskine sized book with a mech pencil too. You're making time at work to draw which is fantastic. If you get a big big newsprint pad and a charcoal pencil (the conte pencils are good, generals also good) and focus on drawing (no smudgy "realism" or big "eye on a page" drawings) it'll def help. I would do your mannequins from photos of people, and I have no time for hunting basic practice ref anymore so I have a lot of paid graphit type stuff from artstation, but honestly croquiscafe, free trial of NMA.art (and download as many pics as you can) - whatever gets you some vaguely academic non-phone-camera nude refs to practice. I like Marc Brunet's videos on mannequinization more than Proko's - just because I feel his definitely reflect his academic leaning where you always expect to draw from life / photos, not inventing anything. Don't get me wrong you can do it either way and working gesture-becomes-mannequin is fine but you need a system with real simple cylinders and boxes that you can make up in your head if you want to invent your own poses.

>get busy with life
>stick to doing small studies for a few months starting with faces then moving around the body
>come back and try to draw a full figure from reference
>face looks symbol drawn to hell and back
>slipped back into the habit of drawing everything as small as humanly possible even though i'm on a tablet and can infinitely resize
feels like i'm back at square 1. after this realistic figure i think i'm going to drop this book and focus on anime shit because i don't know why i'm going for hyper realistic details when i want to do stylized art other than the classically ""trained"" artist larp

>>6617185
Thank you. Will check out Marc Brunet (and probably Proko since I have not watched anything by him).

>>6617165
>>6617143
Thanks. i have a reference.

>>6617273
写真、どこだ?

>>6617289

>>6617338
cracker

>>6617200

Posting this because I'm not really sure if I understood the assignment

>>6615149
Perspective is fucked up on this one, looks like a fever dream on a badway

I'm pretty new to digital art.
Any pointers?

Do many of you do crayon stuff?

How do you go from traditional to digital?

>>6617417
Just practice, mostly. If you're already proficient with traditional, you will most likely still suck with a tablet, but just applying everything you already know, you will build muscle memory over time. While building muscle memory, you will get used to your program of choice and all its many quirks.

>>6617417
avoid screenless tablets unless you're BR poverty tier

Is it me or soft round asian faces are much harder to copy than any other? It takes much longer and mistakes are much easier to make it feels like.

>>6617389
Your anatomy looks alright, but socks won't indent the skin just below the knees like that. Not enough flesh there. Upper eyelashes should be more prominent then lower, and you should make your shadows bolder. Darker and more saturated.
Other than that, keep practicing. The more you draw, the better you get.

>>6617200
Proko is an insufferable twat. Avoid him and Sinix, as they are both hypocrites who don't follow their own advice.
Brunet is good, but his videos can give conflicting information as he's constantly learning, too, and changing his techniques a lot. Pay attention to when the vid you watch was uploaded, and keep it in mind.

What mannequin do YOU use to construct?

>>6617455
I invent my own mannequin from my superior and intuitive understanding of spheres, boxes, and cylinders.

>>6617200
NTA, just saw your Bridgman study and wanted to comment. Mate, you are making the "mistake" that almost everyone makes when studying Bridgman, which is studying him before you have some expertise on figure drawing. Which is basically trying to speedread... in a language you don't know.

Also, don't listen to >>6617434
follow the teacher that you find useful to you.

>>6617132
looks awesome. blog?

sketch I did

>>6617538
Girls want boys to look like that but lemme tell you it's IMPOSSIBLE for me to look like that, I'd just look like a gross tranny...

>>6617513
For now I am having fun with Bridgman so I am going to continue with him but I am going to supplement with mannequins.

>>6617533
Thanks! Its https://twitter.com/kalidibus/

bros what graphics tablet/screen display does feel the most like drawing on paper? I guess it's a mixture of pen tip and surface of the pad right

>>6617546
chinese xianxia softboy is peak male aesthetic t. hetero man

>>6617551
very cool, your art would fit an utsu-p album cover

>>6615968
>>6615977
>>6615992
>>6616052
>>6616537
Legit question how the fuck do I even study his book?
I'm not a beginner, I've got a decent grasp of gesture, construction and anatomy, but I just don't know how to approach his teaching

>>6617538
Based wuxia enjoyer

>>6617567
copy his drawings, from the front cover to the back. Then, go back to the first page, and copy the whole book again, except, on this second pass, you're going to look at the picture, close the book, then draw it from memory.

https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

drawing

Is anon right? >>6612717
Will I want to kill myself if I get a small tablet?

>>6617604
yes, 10-12" is the minimum you should be aiming for

>>6617563
I'm not sure if you picked that choice of words intentionally after seeing that I retweet him often, but that's the best compliment I've ever gotten.

another

>wishing I was drawing when I'm not
>when I have free time, instead of drawing I just sulk and think about how much better I should be by this point
>barely draw anything
>scroll twitter admiring artists who put in the work and amazed by their skill
>think to myself that could be me if I just applied myself
>go to bed, tell myself tomorrow will be different
>repeat for 3 or 4 years now
I don't think I want it as badly as I'd like to believe I do guys

>>6617551
damn with that drawings you are one lucky fanart away from blowing up

>>6617646
get an adderall prescription or find someone to sell you meth

>>6615074
will i make it? it looks so ugly and deformed, the "turn things into shapes" is a meme atleast to me.
t. furfag artist no 349875

>>6617647
I'm really scared of taking drugs like that considering my brother was on Adderall or Ritalin, I forget which, for like 13 years and he was a zombie but I just might have to bite the bullet. I need something to show for all the time I waste.

How easy is it to get some? I don't think they'll just sell it to you just because you want it, right? You need some kind of condition to be treated with it? For the most part I'm a normie and just have no drive so I don't think I'd be able to swing something like that.

how tf do I do trees as ADHD retard?

Rate my cup. Drawing symmetrical cylinders is so fucking hard freehanded.

>>6617663
He's fucking retarded. Stay away from Adderall, if you're actually tempted to go down the drug path look into nootropics. An example would be something like Modafinil, which is like Adderall but without the amphetamines. Getting it still requires a prescription but is much less strict than something like Adderall and is much less harmful too.
Obviously this is something you should talk to an actual doctor over rather than a bunch of retards on fucking 4chan.

>>6617684
>Obviously this is something you should talk to an actual doctor over rather than a bunch of retards on fucking 4chan.
I get that, but what would I even tell them? "Hey doc I need to focus more so I can learn how to draw pictures better." I'm well aware of the risks but the clock is ticking man, I gotta find some kind of way to make some headway because the """willpower and sheer determination""" delusion I've been feeding myself for years clearly is not doing the job.

>>6617695
NTA but Just tell the doc your brother has ADHD and you too and you want something for it, doesn't have to be ritalin could be modafinil or something else like strattera maybe wellbutrin. Just ask the doc

>>6617695
It's laughably easy to get an ADHD diagnosis/prescription, hell you might ACTUALLY have ADHD and need to be medicated for it.

>>6617695
There are always ways to get certain unreputable things on the internet. You're insane if you think I'm going to spell it out to anyone. I can't tell you to lie to your doctor to get drugs and I can't tell you to google search how to buy said drugs. This is a journey you'll have to take on your own.

You actually have two other options: You can quit, or you can learn discipline. Maybe your easily distracted online, forcing yourself to draw offline might be a solution. You can look up things like Cold Turkey application, which forces you to do certain tasks on your computer.
You have plenty of choices anon.

>>6617645
Thanks! That'd be cool if that were the case

>>6617705
You know, my brother was such a beacon of ADHD and other issues that I don't think it ever occurred to my parents to get me tested for it either due to simply being overshadowed by the immediate bigger problem child. You might be onto something.

>>6617710
didn't mean to come off as a fed but I see why my comments would get the ball rolling in that direction. I guess I'll try to go to a doctor and actually go see if I do have ADHD or not and work my way from there. If I don't though I'm gonna be even more angry lol it'll mean that I have a normal brain and I'm just a failure. I guess I'll see.

>>6616684
please please please sauce i need to know who this is im in love

>>6617030
i don't really do figure drawing in photoshop cause my ipad emulates pencils and charcoal much better but here is a quick 3 minute with no warm up to show you how much more useful it is to measure using negative space shapes. You don't even have to draw them out like I did, I'm just trying to get the idea across. But you'll save yourself from needing all those silly measurements if you just think of the negative space in relation to the whole. It will greatly improve your accuracy in assessing proportion and placement of things.

>>6617723
How about instead of becoming a stimulant addict you just stop acting like a faggot? If you’re distracted by the internet, draw in your notebook instead of on your computer.
If you’re no longer passionate about your hobby, take a break or just quit entirely lmao. Plenty of other shit to do and you’ll eventually get over it, probably.
If you’re a unmotivated lazy retard I don’t think taking prescription meth is the solution, and it will probably make your sober self even lazier. Imho.

guitar

>>6617678
it is okay. the perspective on the handle is fucked though. try to think more in 3D.

>>6617604
It;s fine mostly. You will want to kill youself eitherway

went from drawing 10-12 hrs every day for the past 2 months to drawing barely 1 hr for the past week and i feel like im improving more drawing for only 1 hr.
how is this possible? my lines just feel way more accurate and i dont have to erase a million times to get a correct line anymore.

>>6617653
bump

I think I need to simplify further but here's a first go at a mannequin.

>>6617723
Ignore the crab faggot >6617747 and just draw. It's literally all you have to do, stop caring about every little mistake and make a routine out of it until it's a habit. The act of drawing is really not that hard.

>>6617765
Draw a stick figure first. Draw the line of action then draw a circle for torso head and pelvis,then draw little dots for the joints. Connect joints with lines. Do it over photo reference. When you did that a couple of times, start drawing cylinders in perspective on the lines. Meaning, you should either see the top or bottom of the cylinder, or no sides at all if the position of the limb is straight to the cam.

use pic related to draw the skeleton on

>>6617766
thus, /asg/ was born

>>6617756
Is that better? I have a really hard time with torus shaped stuff

>>6617779
yes I think it does look better than before

>>6617646
Going in a direction other than the Anons that want you to take drugs, why don't you intentionally bore yourself?
Taking a page out of Neil Gaiman, he says "Do art, or do nothing" and he means
literally nothing, no scrolling through Twitter, no games, you get it. It might work, and you just have trouble starting, if it doesn't, then you go see if you have ADHD.

>>6617774
Anon that sounds very autistic and unlike how the videos I've been watching say to mannequinize.

>>6617765
bump, and fuck you ignorant fucks imja fucking beginer i seweasr to tgod

>>6617609
>>6617758
Guess I’ll take the L on the medium being twice the price

>>6617794
Anon what does this mean or have to do with anything.

critique/tips? One of my first faces. I struggle with perspective the most on the face, like how much smaller the eye has to be on the side that's further away etc

>>6617766
>dont become a drug addled retard over a hobby
>le crab
for some reason i think telling an anon currently being groomed by a bunch of pharma niggerzombies to “just like… do it brah fk the h8rs” is not going to be helpful advice when he’s seriously contemplating turning to substance abuse to solve his problems with zero forethought whatsoever.

>>6617803
learn how facial features interact on a 3d plane and try again

>>6617803
It's your first face. Go draw 100 more, then ask for critique. Nobody nails it on the first try.

Use reference for each of your 100 studies. Copy anime / manga, if that's what you're into.

>>6617796
don't do it bud, get the big boy

>>6617805
substance abuse is the first step to becoming an artist

>>6617814
I started drinking when I was 14 and dropped acid for the first time at 15 why am I not an artist yet

>>6617805
There's more tactful ways to tell someone who obviously on edge on how to draw. Telling him to do drugs or being a demeaning faggot about it isn't one of them.

trioed to copy the ironina style im starting to simplify stuff into shapes with makes stuff like drawing hair actually possible now so thats cool

>>6617818
if that post made anon reconsider taking the advice of a few crackheads (who are just as dogshit at drawing) seriously at the cost of slightly hurt feelings, all the better. unless you think he killed himself over my post, stfu, because on top of providing helpful advice you should've also discouraged drug abuse instead of saying "nooo anon don't do it, btw here's how you get a script lol its so easy!! now just b urself" you faggot bitch pussy. ass backwards priorities, drawing isn't everything, quit sassing me.

>>6617807
how long should I plan in for one face/study? To not get stuck on small details

>>6617850
Did your banal seething completely blindside you to the previous "ignore the retard, don't take adderall" post or are you just naturally this fucking retarded?

>>6615507

How do I evolve past black linework with two-tone shading?

>>6617899
draw lines for 20 more years

>>6617746
Was my accuracy not good?

>>6617760
quantity vs quality

drew this

really quick copy, left without the method from krenz, right with.

Putting down lines and eying the distance between lines is really hard for me without this method. Will continuing to copy like this improve this skill for me? Or should I just try to study/copy stuff without it to train my eyes more?

>>6617705
t. guy who's never tried to get adhd meds

I've been diagnosed since childhood and every doctor in my state consistently flops every single month (ive been to every doctor and they are all fuck ups) They are utterly incapable of doing anything on time and thus i have to have a gap in medication literally every month on top of getting raped on bills

>>6617705
Not in my country. In my small city there is only 1 psychiatrist. GP's are not allowed to prescribe them only if they are specialized. They won't even treat me with non stimulants. My psychiatrist doesn't have a narcotic prescribing license, she could get it but is too lazy not enough ADHD patients. Now I have to drive 70 KM and wait 6 months for an appointment with an psychiatrist who treats adult ADHD.

It's an fucking odyssey. I'm coping with Wellbutrin right now, which is really really mild stuff but it helps at least 15-25%.

>>6617908
My accuracy wasn't perfect. I'm not really critiquing your accuracy. Moreso your method of attaining it being one that will be much slower. You don't want to have to draw a bunch of lines on your ref like you did. Plus negative shapes will also allow you to get results outside of just photo ref. Just give looking for negative shapes a try. If you don't like that way you can just ignore me and do it how you're doing.

All of the proportions look off and I don't know why. I'm fine sacrificing realism for appeal but I'm not seeing it here.NA 0HHA

>>6617952
And I can't put captchas in the right box

>>6617908
one more addition. Negative shapes will allow you to better percieve the gesture/contours. Where vertical and horizontal measure lines will give you static and un-lifelike shapes.

>>6617950
Thanks for the good advice. I'll try to take into account the negative space, I think it'll be good at least for the gesture stage.

>>6617964

>>6617926
very good

>>6617933
keep practicing but take frequent breaks. takes a lot of concentration and you hit diminishing returns fast. it'll click eventually

>>6617937
nta but I had an appointment within a week of calling, answered a couple questions, got diagnosed and had 20mg daily adderall prescription from walmart ready same day. I'm 31. maybe you're just unlucky

Quick work doodles

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>>6618053

>>6618057

>>6618058

How to draw genitals? i have found Doxy guides on it, but i feel like i need a different material, it feels incomplete

>>6618062

>>6618065
That’s it’s for now. I can really only draw cartoony expressions unfortunately

>>6618064
Like this:

Male : <===3
Female: |

hows homie looking so far
feels a little flat, left arm could be better, legs obviously aren’t done
anything else?

This thread is lacking a lot of feedback.

>>6618177
remember that feedback is always a plus, and you should try to improve with the mindset that nobody will actually help you out, except yourself. It's unfortunate, but that's just how it is

What is the purpose of gesture? Why can't I just go straight to drawing the ribs and pelvis and adding on from there?

Drew some fantasy races.

>>6618052
>>6618065
same energy

>>6618177
lately the /beg/ threads have been like that

>>6618225
Nah, I don’t pretend to be an edgelord or anything like that. I just like ridiculous expressions and the cartoon aesthetic is perfect for that

>>6618229
There's a lack of /int/s here at least for the past few days.

>>6618251
>Intards give advice
>Begtards: PWY and I'll listen
>Intards post work
> Option1: Begtard find errors and nitpick Intards' work, insult and dismiss them
>Option2: No. You are too good please go away. You make me feel bad. You a pro dude! Stop flexing on us.
Age-old story

>>6618275
>tfw did option 2
Please forgive me.

>>6618097
homie looks like he's seen some shit. It looks good but I get the feeling his head is a little small.

I have literally never drawn a vagina
does this anatomy looks right?

and do I need to add some white censor bars if I want to upload it to ex. pixiv?

>>6618311
looks unf-worthy

is this medsmap shit real? the before and after pics look too good to be true. what’s he doing that completely changes these peoples art?

>>6618337
You write like a shill.

Anyone here know how I should draw her right hand?

>>6618364
s.. sorry?
i've never actually taken the course. i just want to know if anyone else has tried it and if it’s any good.

I would really like to pirate CSP 2 but I can't seem to find a trustworthy source to download it from. Anyone have a link to a cracked version that doesn't have viruses or bitcoin miners?

Another day another figure. Reasonably happy with this one other than the head doesn't feel right but whatever.

Unironically tried using the hard round brush to shade and it turned out a lot better than my previous attempt (>>6617030)

How to draw comics calls for:
>t-square
>ruler
>opaquing ink
>special paper
>bristol board
>compass
What of this is actually important if the goal is just learning simple forms for constructing people?

>>6618406
Where do you get your references from? This one was well beyond my skill level, but it was interesting all the same.

>>6618311
>>>/h/

they know their stuff

It might be just my poor visualization skills but for whatever reason rotating my paper to match the orientation of the plane I'm trying to draw in seemed to help immensely with drawing circles in a plane. Previously I only could do it well with the draw a box rectangle with midpoints marked method.

>>6617372
Right side seems fairly correct to me, but on the far left, the middle three(especially the upper two) aren't angled hard enough. It's supposed to look like a blocky ball.

>>6617407
Smears pencil lines, so I don't anymore, maybe if I get good enough to use pen instead.

>>6618552
I was wondering solely because I can't afford a tablet to do digital stuff yet, and I wanted to try color.

>>6617372
why would you do that to yourself why which diabolical mastermind put you up to this

>>6618571
You should ask around more, tho. Maybe I was doing something wrong.

>>6617933
Damn nice. I should try that.

Missed the mark with the fog on top of the water but don't feel like fixing it. Already working on the next Gondola

>>6618611
forgot image

>>6618612
based gondola enjoyer

>>6617372
Serious question: why bother with timewasting bullshit like this instead of just studying artists you like? How is this shit going to help you draw sexy anime girls for example? The /beg/ trap meme is real, and it's shit like this and the drawabox bs that really grinds my gears because it doesn't help with achieving your goals at all. Study artists you like for a few days, then start an OC project to put it in practice, repeat ad infinitum. That's how you get good imo. I've never seen someone do drawabox for x amount of time and then say: "oh yeah I've improved so much, couldn't have done it without drawing boxes in perspective for a gazillion years instead of just practicing what I want to be able to draw."

>>6618638
I have trouble with constructing in 3D space so I thought I'd do drawabox to get better at it since it's basically the whole conceit of the course
The first lesson is mind numbing and grindy and I'm not even sure what use it is because I feel more like I'm just internalising symbols for these boxes than actually understanding them in 3D but the lessons after this seem more useful so I decided to at least try doing it

>>6618612
Nice

>>6618638
> it doesn't help with achieving your goals at all.
depends on the goals
you will eventually understand why.maybe
if it makes you seethe it's means you are dummy.

>>6618612
woah

>>6618638
PYW

>>6618638
The point of the exercise is to test visuo-spatial intelligence. Some people intuitively grasp it without any effort, maybe that's you. But others may not have that talent. Go on Drawabox discord and check out some of the user posts. Some people have an abysmal sense of how shapes rotate. They can't even conceive of it and their exercises reflect that. These people should just pick their favorite artist and study? Study what? They have an appalling understanding of form. I'm not saying DAB in its whole is the perfect way for these people to train, but at least you should understand the point of the exercise before commenting this.

I haven't drawn in a week because I got addicted to vidya again so I'm forcing myself to draw

BERSPECTIVE :D

new thread?

>>6618406
I think you need to turn the head a bit more to the right.

New thread

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>>6618864

>>6616310
This is only true if all, or most variables are exactly the same. Time spent means nothing in the absence of context. As an example: You failed to consider the age and experience of both artists.

>>6617814
I'm recovering from addiction man. It's a living hell.
Now I have paranoia and anxiety. This is not fun.
I barely work on my art. My life is over pills have fucked me in the head.

>>6618476
You can easily get started with a pencil and a stack of cheap printer paper. It's fun to have a lot of professional-looking tools sitting around, but it's not going to make you better at drawing.

>>6618612
Fukkin saved