/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6599189
Certainly not.

>>6599189
Depends if you want to keep your body intact

>illegal
Any governing body can declare x or y illegal but in the end it's just their opinion backed by violence. If you can sidestep their agents or crush them and their laws you're basically free

>>6599189
>>6599254
The laws of God are unavoidable so yes there are illegal drawings

>>6599189
depends on what coutnry you are in

>>6599189
It’s only illegal if you get caught

>>6599255
god never made any laws, only the jews who made their fan fiction did.

>>6599189
Serious answer is yes

1. You are not allowed to add trademarks as you are saying you are sponsored by that corporation
2. You are not allowed to trace copyrighted works as that is plagiarism
3. You are not allowed to make mindless accusations over any person as you can have libel and defamation cases on your ass.

Images that attack sensitive and hot topics are not illegal but eh. Goodluck, mate
Be sure you are don't become what you are shitting on

>>6599255
I lost my foreskin because of Jews I fucking hate their gay ass religion and every rip off of it

>>6599249
>Picrel happened in 2005
Can't believe the media became so cucked after this. Journalists and artists like to pretend they're so brave and against the grain, but were completely whipped after the Charlie Hebdo incident.

>>6599272
>>6599282
take your athiest rage to x or pol or something

>>6599255
/thread

>>6599189
Only if you live in one of those fruity EU cunts.
Not a real thing for freedom enjoyers such as myself.

>>6599284
Seethe more christfag. If you want a bunch of sycophants go to church

>>6599301
nta but let me just remind you that atheism brought us woke shit and champagne commies

You cannot really act high and mighty in such a state

>>6599283
Between that and the political correctness regarding islam media really toned it down. And lets not forget how things have cooled down compared to 1-2 years after 11-9

>>6599306
You mean that like the decadence of the church wasnt perfect breeding grounds for commies.
And woke shit is again a rebellion against your values, not consequence of atheism

>>6599284
I LOST MY FORESKIN YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE GO WORSHIP YOUR KIKE ON A PIKE

>>6599283
Muslim extremists aren't even like this anymore. Those countries have lasting ptsd from the war.

>>6599189
pyw so we can adjudicate

>>6599280
Then how come south park gets away with it?

>>6599308
The Church is no more prone to corruption as any organized group

But by all means, humans are inclined to worship something to find guidance and meaning
Religion was invented to provide those.
Worshiping a god that promotes good values and promises to punish the wicked is good

If you don't worship a god, then you worship humans.
Don't @ me.
Entire grounds of wokeshit is atheism. And look who they worship. The corpos have actual spiritual counseling sessions and their followers started acting like a cult that saw their job as their way of obtaining meaning in their lives.

I wish I am joking but I worked at Apple and they indoctrinated us for weeks and told us to keep on repeating the lines like a damn Amen.

Your atheism brought this.

>>6599322
>secular institutions ape after religious institutions
If it's a problem when Apple does it, why isn't a problem when your cult does it? Also pyw let's see some of that soul you think you have a monopoly on.

>>6599330
It is good if the Church does it because the rules exists in stone long before the Church
>forgive your enemies
>be a good neighbor
>give aid to the poor, the sick, and the dying
Like it or not, religion is a powerful tool created by philosophers who understand the core values of a good community
Even if the Church is corrupt, the Word itself is not and the Church can be held accountable for not following their own words

Atheism as an idea is far from evil but the fact that it holds no philosophical value makes it extremely vulnerable to corruption and cults of personalities.
Without god, you end up worshipping humans.
Humans who would gladly take advantage of your obedience to exalt themselves and they cannot be held accountable because they are the rules.

Remember the Big tech lay-offs and how the employees that got fired complain about psychological damages?
Those damages are real.

Because they were manipulated into the belief that their work is their life, getting laid off would hurt the exact same way as losing all your meaning in life

Like it or not, religion brought us the age of Exploration
Atheism brought us Woke

>>6599330
Also, here's my work
Now post yours

>>6599351
Not only are you making graven images, but they are the kind you defile yourself with! Please fuck off back to church if you want to christlarp.
>>6599349
If the church is so ethical why is it full of pedophiles? Clearly it is not necessary to be religious to behave. And if religion brought us "the age of exploration" then it also brought us genocides, slavery, holy wars, and many other forms of violence and exploitation. And nothing is more "vulnerable" to "corruption and cults of personalities" than the very religious thinking these secular institutions are imitating for marketing purposes. That's WHY they are copying them! And getting laid off "hurts" because even some highly-paid people in the United States live paycheck to paycheck because no one learns anything about money in school.

>>6599362
First off, pyw

Secondly,
The Church is also the biggest Charity group in the entire world right now
Every group in the world had its fair share of committing evil acts but that point is moot when the argument is what happens when you have no religion to start with

Communism.
That's what happens

You end up worshiping the Great Leaders

>>6599367
>if we don't give everything to the poor there will be some GODLESS version of give everything to the poor
not impressed, go to church and stop drawing naked girls it is a sin

>>6599372
Correct!
Communism literally states
>give to the people

And it goes exactly as a godless version of religion would go

And pyw you pussy

>>6599316
they're parodies and jokes which get a pass since they're not intended to be taken seriously.

>>6599384
>>6599316
The biggest reason why South Park cannot be stopped is that their disclaimer is the first thing they show and it outright states that you should not watch it

By watching it anyway, YOU are the one violating them.

>>6599372
>Can`t even phw
Opinion discarded

>>6599255
surely drawings involving sexualized minors are fine, right? just as those clerics fucking young kids keep their power

>>6599372
>stop drawing naked girls it is a sin
Show me where god says this

>>6599301
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>>6599308
Reminder that Atheism's greatest contribution to the world is lysenkoism.

>>6599362
>Not only are you making graven images
only protestants complain about that, catholics and orthodox don't really have a problem with it since that passage was about idolatry and worship of false gods rather than about creating artistic depictions of the heavens, as a matter of fact they encourage the making of art
>If the church is so ethical why is it full of pedophiles?
desu you can ask that about any large institution like the hollywood or the government, the church gets a lot of flak for it because they defend their members as a result of some old policy that has stratified throughout history.
>And if religion brought us "the age of exploration" then it also brought us genocides, slavery, holy wars, and many other forms of violence and exploitation.
you do realize that, apart from holy wars (which even then is debatable) the things you've listed aren't just exclusive to religion? I need not remind you of the atrocities commited by secular countries and even specifically, anti-religious ideologies and the sheer scale of them just to prove my point

>>6599351
>>6599367
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>>6599401
if religion doesn't get credit for le heckin badderino things because "uhhh every large group does those and not just this one" why should it get credit for the based and redpilled things? Are you seriously going to argue with that other religious or ideological systems lack any ethical framework, aesthetic foundations, regard for the flourishing of their communities, etc.?
Also the image ban doesn't go away just because "only protestants complain." You ALL claim the whole Bible as scripture so anything you are weaseling out of is just dishonest cope. If the God you are larping about is even slightly more serious about his rules than you are, then he will know his own.

>>6599189
Yes, depending on the country.

>>6599480
> le heckin badderino
Where did you pick up tranny-speak? Reddit?

>>6599480
Because the Word is not the Church
The Church is merely a speaker for the gospel. If they go against what Jesus said, then their actions are their own.

God cannot be held accountable for something that he deliberately ordered his people to not do.

And one can argue that yes, Atheism does lack ethical framework because how can you have it if you lack a proper example and an authority that would judge you regardless of your role in society.
Oh, right. You end up worshipping humans and the corporation.

Closest you can get for a good atheism is the worship of nature and ancestors. They have a sense of ethics and morals because their core value runs on the idea that nature must be preserved and we must look up to our elders for guidance for their experience is valuable

And please stop your cringe speak

>>6599189
Illegal to draw? No. Illegal to distribute and sell? Yes

>>6599489
>>6599496
guaranteed replies from christlarpers on an anime porn forum if you post like you're from 2015
This sort of dualistic thinking you have where your team only does good and all the less-than-good-stuff can be explained away is complete horseshit. If Christianity is so degraded today that the best arguments for it are "atheist ideologies were too mean to me" it's worth noting you'd probably be put on trial yourself and deprived of your rights and dignity by a medieval Christian power if it knew you were a vector of sexual perversion as well as opining on theology from outside the pulpit. And then you'd be grumbling that we should go back to paganism or whatever came earlier!

>>6599508
>If Christianity is so degraded today that the best arguments for it are "atheist ideologies were too mean to me"
not that anon and not gonna bother reading the full autism in this thread

but there's plenty of draw for joining religion.
you don't have to believe every single word in the bible or that the church says, but the bible is a good resource for morality and examples in the form of parables. church is great at teaching basic morality that boils down to
>just be nice to others and be nice to yourself
>believe in god
>do good things for others periodically
which nobody can argue are bad things.

then the church itself provides a community and group to be social with which is important in the current society of isolation and self interest.

as for god
>a bearded man in the sky did it
is about as valid as
>nothing exploded and made everything lmao
nobody knows what happens after death. but the christian god is one of forgiveness and caring about his people. even if he doesn't exist, people want something after death and it brings them comfort to believe in life and meaning, providing that is a net benefit to everyone.

>>6599511
>even if he doesn't exist, people want something after death and it brings them comfort to believe in life and meaning, providing that is a net benefit to everyone.
ok so you are also an atheist but not in denial about it, unlike the other guy who wants it to be true because atheism is mean

>>6599511
Atheists are fags. Always have been.
/thread

>>6599516
Must be lots of atheists in Maryland

>>6599514
i'm not an atheists because atheists "believe" in the lack of any and all spirituality.
i believe in something, it just isn't Christianity, but not because i think its bad, just that i find that particular brand of god to be too inherently contradictory.

but as someone that did grow up catholic, there's plenty of good things christianity provides and its not even remotely as bad as fags in california try to make everyone believe it is.

>>6599189
In Dumbfuckistan they apparently can

>>6599520
>i believe in something, it just isn't Christianity
You'd be an atheist to the christlarping anon. I am not strictly speaking an atheist either but these posturing types are deserving of ridicule when they make their ridiculous blanket statements about what is true and false or good and evil as if they just came down from the mountaintop and have some news for us illiterate folk who've never heard of anything else before. It is this sort of think which not only leads to abuses but also intellectually rots whatever system is being upheld.

Can't you dumb fucking spastics just talk about artwork for one fucking thread without devolving into completely irrelevant sophistry about irrelevant topics?

>>6599534
if it helps i'm currently drawing in a shitty program, i'm just adhd

Art shouldn't care about legality. You would be censoring art by applying government laws.

>>6599546
It's not even the government that goes after you, it's some tranny from twitter or reddit. We have this weird situation now where we have to kowtow to mentally ill, fringe-of-society, people who are probably too fucked up to even hold down a job at starbucks. It's like the world has become one big university campus. It's piss, it's sickening. Like did no one ever consider that it might be a bad idea to let fat dykes with blue hair become the morality police? Where is governmental repression when you actually need it?

>>6599480
>if religion doesn't get credit for le heckin badderino things because "uhhh every large group does those and not just this one" why should it get credit for the based and redpilled things?
your argument was 'religion bad because they do this bad thing' ignoring the fact that the things you've listed are things that aren't exclusive to religion at all, and you're blaming religion itself as a whole for it, which is rather disingenuous as by following that logic, i could argue that atheism is evil because it caused genocide on an industrial level. its just a poor argument. you'd have far more success pointing out the excesses of the spanish inquisition or the crusades. to follow your next point, the rrason why religion gets credit for 'muh based and redpilled' is because they actively promote those values and prescribing a moral framework. now, a good argument against it would be that the values they promote are 'not good', but then again that is viewing their values off a different ethical framework, and then it'd just be an argument of which framework is better, and people tend to have differing opinions depending on what they value more. atheism by contrast is merely a rejection of religious belief and thus do not offer any moral prescription nor does it provide any ethical framework. it is, at best, a component of another ideology.

>You ALL claim the whole Bible as scripture so anything you are weaseling out of is just dishonest cope.
really anon? the bible itself has multiple translations used by multiple sects and denominations, plus there are debates on whether or not some of the books on the bible should be part of canon. prots have 66 books, caths have 73, orths have 79. interpretation also plays a crucial part, since in this instance, the prots translates the second commandment to be about not having graven images while the caths and orths translates it to be about the not worshipping false gods. also, sola scriptura is a protestant teaching.

>>6599581
I will simply reiterate that it is not necessary to be religious to behave well or ethically, and that the religious cannot lay claim to only the good parts of their religion's history (or present) without appearing ridiculous to an informed or nuanced party who does not share in their reflex to compartmentalize and dismiss whatever they believe no true scotsman does. It doesn't matter to the point that these negative aspects aren't unique to the religion, because the whole problem is to reject relying on the dualistic framework in the first place. Pretending to be Christian on a cartoon porn forum is not enough to make someone inherently morally superior to a strawman communist-atheist. The labels contain nothing but dogmatic schizobabble if they are taken at their word. If a company like Apple is malicious for sloganeering or promoting brand loyalty and not because of the content of what it is doing, so is anyone else who is sloganeering or tries to inculcate fidelity to a symbol. It makes no sense to blame "atheists" for using tactics pioneered by religion as an earlier poster was doing, because his own religion does exactly that, and is the grandmother of all the secular humanistic atheist ideologies.

>>6599308
Retard. Leftism and atheism go hand in hand. Kill yourself faggot

>>6599511
Big Bang waas made by a priest mathematecian
Got its name after an atheist radio host mocked it as "let there be light"

Atheists started claiming it because they cannot be the side of the stupid

>>6599310
Wah wah go cry about it. You can still feel sex

>>6599372
No it isn't. Naked people are all over the. Church fag

>>6599631
>there's nudity in already un-biblical religious art therefore drawing lust-provoking pornographic art is fine
it's not my belief system, but one would think the Lord will know his own, if he is all-knowing

>>6599630
lel, no he can't.

>>6599272
>>6599282
>>6599301
>>6599310
>loses one inch of skin that does pretty much nothing
>does this
I couldn’t imagine being so retarded as the heatens are LMAO

.

>>6599572
im not a believer in total free speech, but You don't want government prosecution or repression just for writing stuff they consider gross.

>>6599283
what happened to draw muhammed day?

>>6599718
guess it never became an annual thing.

>>6599626
>I will simply reiterate that it is not necessary to be religious to behave well or ethically
It is not necessary, yes, but only insomuch that people can come up with their own ethical systems and frameworks, but religion as a system is fairly efficient and effective in promulgating their own moral and ethical frameworks to the most amount of people and keeping it intact.

>and that the religious cannot lay claim to only the good parts of their religion's history(...)
there was no such claim made, at least in my argument, what i argued was that you're pointing out acts of atrocities committed in history and attributing most of the fault to religion is disingenuous. as i said previously, there are a fair share of atrocities committed under the name of religions (of which there are many), but that by itself does not make religion as a whole a terrible concept. otherwise, you'd also have to give up civilization as a whole for enabling such massive acts of atrocities to be enacted in the first place.
>because the whole problem is to reject relying on the dualistic framework in the first place
that is a matter of opinion, not fact, unless you were to argue that your alternate moral framework is itself correct and right, which then makes it no different than the ethical systems promoted by religions.
>Pretending to be Christian
i could say the same for you pretending to be an enlightened neckbeard atheist, but that would add nothing to the argument.

(cont.)

>>6599737
>If a company like Apple is malicious for sloganeering or promoting brand loyalty and not because of the content of what it is doing(...)
I would argue that by itself, the method isn't malicious, as it is simply just a basic tool for attracting people and maintaining social cohesion. nearly every form of social organization in the world across history does that to a certain extent, not just religion. however, the purpose for using such methods and its effects on the people it is aimed towards have more weight imo, and given what the previous poster was arguing, it can be said that what apple is doing is rather dubious according to my standards of ethics, as a company like apple does not provide the same level of community and other social benefits that a religion typically offers, and simply uses such methods to extract money from their own customers for the benefit of the company's pockets without really giving anything back to the community they have fostered outside of the products that said members of the community paid for to begin with.

i feel like we have veered away from the original topic

>>6599737
>you're pointing out acts of atrocities committed in history and attributing most of the fault to religion is disingenuous
The other poster was blaming "atheism" for "wokeism" and seemed to be under the impression that going back to church would undo the latest iteration of the universal-salvation-through-the-purging-of-sins religion, and further argued that "atheism" in the sense of human leadership attached to man-made ideas leads to people not being accountable for some reason, as if adding god (another man-made idea) to the equation would somehow make people more accountable. By his own standards then we should be blaming religion for whatever religious people do, since "atheism" is to blame for what "atheists" do. This is as I have said, a retarded and dualistic way of evaluating things, and moreover a cargo cult interpretation of the religion (Christianity), which itself is the origin of "wokeism" and cannot be used to undo its own fruits. (One would not plant apple trees if he wanted cherries!) To understand this more clearly you can study its history in places which failed to repulse it (Rome), places which quickly understood it was a problem and stopped it (Japan), places which had to fight it off as an existential threat to the state costing millions of lives (Qing dynasty China and the Taiping rebellion), and also places where it is completely obviously understood as an underclass revolt against the culture and is unable to reach any further due to its association with people who are already discriminated against (India). Anything atheism has to do with "wokeism" owes to its Christian heritage of needing to overthrow the "worldly" in favor of some transcendental and purportedly benevolent astral authoritarianism. The miracle of resurrection and the miracle of gender reassignment are one in the same.

>>6599189
AI makes EVEY image legal, even CP.

>>6599306
"Atheism" is not an organized 'lack of faith', it is exactly that, a lack of faith, no more, no less. There is no regular meeting of atheism, there is no order of atheists, there is nothing besides someone not believing in divinity. Anything pretending to be those things is satire, mockery, or a farce.

What your trying to imply is 'a lack of dogmatic tradition and superstition', rather than "atheism".

>>6599572
>Like did no one ever consider that it might be a bad idea to let fat dykes with blue hair become the morality police?
Corpos want it to be that way. The mentally ill are the pro-consumerism police that fights anything that cannot be commercialized.

>>6599838
Mate, every single woke mob consist of atheists who attacks Christianity

You can say #notall if you wish
But by all means, you really cannot proudly say that Atheism is good when the biggest communities of atheists are the Commie shitholes

>>6599249
Is that even Mohammed or is that Ali? Are there guidelines to drawing an anatomically correct Mohammed for maximum rage induction?

>>6599189
Depends on where you live. Some countries have laws that prohibit public display of certain themes, even if they are illustrated.

>>6599255
Thankfully we live in a secular society where fairytales are not taken into account in courts of law.

>>6599698
Says the indoctrinated moron kek.

>>6599428
God doesn't exist you moron. The bible was written by people that didn't know better at the time.

>>6599928
First off:
Jesus is real.
We have actual government documents confirming the execution of 5 of his apostles written by Tinnutus himself who hated "the strange ones"
Then we have an entire stone tablet confirming the identity of Poncious Pilate as a guest of honor in a banquet

Secondly:
Existence of God is a misleading question that is looked down upon by every religious and secular sector.
The proper focus should be on the message and nothing more.

>>6599934
>Jesus is real.
Even if that was the case, that doesn't make God real.
Try again, you gullible indoctrinated moron.
I hope you leave that cult some day. Good luck.

>>6599938
You live in a blue city
YOU should leave your cult

>>6599941
I'm not american. The difference between you and me is that I base my whole life and habits on logic and evidence, while you stop doing this as soon as it comes to religion.
You are just an indoctrinated dumbass. I pity you.

>>6599946
Yeah yeah
Heard that.

You are only an atheist because you think it's the cool kid zone
And yet, you have never downloaded a single textbook pdf at Libra

PS
My hobby is art, theology, and reading about Nuclear stuff
Get your pretentious ass out of my face

>>6599948
First I'm american, now I'm a little kid (I'm in my late 30s).

>My hobby is theology
So you are saying you don't believe in the God of the bible, right?
Why the fuck are you even replying to me?

>>6599958
I enjoy studying, regardless of what field it is.
It's a humbling experience to actually see how much you do not know

Theology is not even about worshiping God.
It's about studying the nature of God and let me tell you that it's super useful if you want to have greater insights about the world we live in

It is most recommended to read St. Augustine's books about the nature of evil. It's a great book if you want to better your sense of judgement and actually learn how to live as a "logical person" who can look at things in an objective way

>>6599963
>It's about studying the nature of God and let me tell you that it's super useful if you want to have greater insights about the world we live in
Please, stop BSing yourself.
Just study fucking philosphy and/or history instead. It's the same thing, minus the super natural influences that muddy reasoning and logic.

>>6599966
YOU study something.
Don't claim you are an atheist of facts and logic if you have never studied crap

>>6599189
sure if authorities decided to censor or ban it like the catholic church or the ccp does.

>>6599971
Either stop moving the goalposts from my initial claim that there's not enough evidence for God's existence and anyone that thinks the contrary is an indoctrinated moron, or stop replying to me.

>>6599972
Church has never banned anything
Not even Da Vinci code when it is damn full of inaccuracies

Biggest facepalm I had with that book was when it claimed that Nicean creed was Constantine creating the modern bible.

lmao
It was about Arianism and Orgonistic church who argued back and front of the Emperor himself

If this is Atheist literature, boy does it suck big time

>>6599973
whatever dummy. Go read

>>6599975
>Church has never banned anything
LMAO, you can't make this shit up.
This coming from somebody that claims they are all about studying.
You are a fucking clown.

>>6599990
Fine
*modern Church
Happy now?

>>6599975
The church had an index librorum prohibitorum (prohibited books) for literary works they deem "blasphemous." They never outright banned paintings or sculptures but did to censor them like covering all the depiction privates with leaves. They dont do those things now because they've lost a lot of social influences in the modern era but history remembers.

>>6599991
Yes, because they don't have the power to do so.
And with the passage of time they keep losing more and more of it.
It saddens me that I won't live to see the day when this dumb garbage will be completely eradicated from the face of the planet.

>>6600006
Yeah, I know
The Church reformation was a humbling moment for the Church

Which is also an event that is fun to think about
Much of it was never even about Protestant vs Counter Reformists
It was Protestants who say that they need a new Church vs people who wanted to improve the Church

Things like the Scientific method was made here
Great thinkers of the first wave of reformists were humanists who value the Christian values and were motivated by the idea taht they are improving it

Then came the 2nd wave of Reformists like Voltaire who claim that it was an atheist movement
Despite the fact that plenty of those thinkers actually wrote books about how Atheism is stupid

>>6600008
Yes they DO have the full authority to ban literature at the Vatican and encourage other countries to do the same.
They just don't

And mind you
Biggest rise of Atheism and decline of the Church happened at the 1800's. People complained about the lack of art and spirituality

Know what happened next?
Damn Gothic Revival.
Every construction became Church-like
Every. single. building. Arches and balustrade

And then WW1 where you can find crosses on both sides

Christianity has experienced its waxes and wanes and yet it's still here.
In fact, the worse society gets, the stronger the belief becomes
Atheism is just a result of hedonism and latches on the coatails of Christians

Your pretentious ass can stay salty about it

>>6599799
>Anything atheism has to do with "wokeism" owes to its Christian heritage of needing to overthrow the "worldly" in favor of some transcendental and purportedly benevolent astral authoritarianism.
Amusing you point this out after mentioning India, a nation with a faith that is notorious for rejecting worldly things, or that the early Chinese empire had a rather favourable opinion on Christianity early on.

In addition, your argument about 'wokeism' is in of itself mostly disingenuous, it relies on the idea that the modern woke ideology follows from of Christian ideology in of itself, as by continuing on that train oflogic, one could argue that Communism is originated from Capitalist ideology, or that the modern pacifist anti-war movement being a result of imperialistic war-hungry movements, or in other words, it would be a considerable reach to argue so. They are responses to said ideologies, not a branch of it. Not to mention that it also implies that Christianity and Christianity alone is the only religion in history that teaches that people should focus less on earthly and material things and instead focus on heavenly, spiritual things, which is utterly ridiculous to the point that I'm beginning to doubt about your own knowledge of religion in the first place . I could even point out that, within your argument, it implies that that atheism as it stands right now owes its existence to Christianity, which is hilarious. All in all, it relies on a poor understanding of what religion is and what Christianity is as a religion

I also do not see the correlation between the miracle of Christ's resurrection and that of gender reassignment outside of the fact that they can be considered tenets of an ideology, but at that point you're mostly grasping on straws. It is made simply to imply a connection where there is none, as the resurrection of Christ and what it entails has no conceptual thread that links it towards the idea of gender reassignment, or vice versa.

>>6599189
>can drawings be illegal?
well yes, but the exact details depends on the country. some countries have explicit laws, others have implicit laws. don't be ridiculous
>should they be
probably not for most cases, even pornography, since they're just drawings. though, the debate becomes more interesting when it's being used to share information that can be used to harm other people, like detailed instructions on how to build pipebombs at home using home-made ingredients, but that's mostly a discussion about distribution than creation in of itself

>>6600015
>Yes they DO have the full authority to ban literature at the Vatican and encourage other countries to do the same.
Oh yes, the well known power of encouragement.

Fucking LMAO

As for the rest, you totally don't sound like an indoctrinated believer hahaha.
Your BS about ONLY strudying theism because you want to know more about the world is just that. BS.

>>6599255
>The laws of God are unavoidable

see:
>Any governing body can declare x or y illegal but in the end it's just their opinion backed by violence.

I wish we had jannies so bad.

>>6600016
>implies that Christianity and Christianity alone is the only religion in history that teaches that people should focus less on earthly and material things and instead focus on heavenly, spiritual things
Because we were talking about Christianity, so it is relevant to bring up its nihilistic world-denial. And the emphasis on overthrowing the worldly should not be dropped here, i.e. the imperative to destroy or cancel or ban rivalrous systems which do not share the same outlook. This also applies to the subsequent point about resurrection and gender reassignment both of which are radical rejections of the concrete factors of lived experience in favor of esoterical doctrines

>>6599928
I know that, and you know that, but anon seems like he's pretty stupid.

>>6599534
art is just a reflection of real life.

>>6599698
Shut the fuck up kike if you want to mutilate your own penis for your jew god, then fine. But leave babies out of it

>>6600112
>Because we were talking about Christianity, so it is relevant to bring up its nihilistic world-denial.
That is a gross misunderstanding of what nihilism is and is, again, another disingenuous comparison. Religions like Christianity (and Buddhism, since it's a lot more prominent there) and their focus on more heavenly, more immaterial virtues and ideals is not equivalent to an utter rejection of meaning itself. Clearly, the religious faithful hold belief in certain things which they regard to be true, and their rejection of worldly values (which in this definition refers to flaws stemming from the base animalistic desires of man like greed, gluttony, etc. etc) is not equivalent to a rejection of reality, since the things they believe in still are a part of reality.

That's not even going to how the early Christians deride the Gnostics for their utter rejection of the material world in favour of the abstract immaterial (among other things), so your argument doesn't even hold water within the context.

>the imperative to destroy or cancel or ban rivalrous systems which do not share the same outlook.
Isn't that roughly what literally every ideology on the world does? Even atheism itself has an imperative to deny or destroy rivalrous systems that do not share the same outlook, ie religion, simply due to its core idea and concept. Science has an imperative on rejecting and denying rivalrous systems that do not share the same outlook at least within the same field it operates on, are you arguing that science itself is nihilistic?

(cont.)

>>6600295
>>6600112
>This also applies to the subsequent point about resurrection and gender reassignment both of which are radical rejections of the concrete factors of lived experience in favor of esoterical doctrines
You lost me. The mystery of the resurrection isn't really so much a rejection of lived experience as an affirmation of faith and belief in Christ, and gender reassignments aren't so much an esoteric doctrine as it is just a coping mechanism for them to feel marginally better about them being in a body that they identify in. In addition, what is considered 'concrete factors' when it comes to lived experiences highly differs from society to society and context to context unless you unironically believe that people literally live the same way everywhere across the world and across history. Go back 30 years from now and the modern experience of teenagers that are constantly connected to the internet in every waking moment of their lives would not be a concrete factor, and go further back 30 years and the average experience of a modern black american wouldn't hold true for the average black american in that era. And so on and so forth.

In short, that specific point you brought up is not only retarded, but pointless and wrong, especially given how much you blatantly misunderstand what nihilism even means. At this point, I feel like you have no idea what you're talking about and are merely throwing words around to sound intelligent.

>>6600295
Indeed there seems to be a broader set of problems with religion in general! Not exactly the best defense of Christianity to point that out...

>>6600298
>aren't so much an esoteric doctrine as it is just a coping mechanism for them to feel marginally better
I could say the same about believing one will live eternally in heaven after they are dead on earth, and I have!

>>6600305
I do not see how my argument is somehow stating that this denial of flawed and base desires and pursuing higher, more intellectual desires are somehow a point against religion, i mean i admit that every religion has its faults, no ideology is perfect after all, but i'm pointing out that the specific faults being pointed out in the post i was responding to aren't actual faults at all. my apologetics aren't even that deep even, its just that the points being raised are retarded and i'm merely pointing them out.

>I could say the same about believing one will live eternally in heaven after they are dead on earth, and I have!
true, but then again, many things in this world rely on a common belief in a myth or a fiction, like the american dream, money, culture, tradition, etc. etc. it's really just an important part of any ideology to be honest.

>>6600034
Prove me wrong by reading about it
Buuut we know you won't

You're just a hedon who cannot see God in times of plenty
Don't seek God

Hope you'll uphold your arrogance in times of strife

>>6600345
>denial of flawed and base desires and pursuing higher, more intellectual desires
That's not the point, the point is denying things like death or biological sex in favor of desire driven ideals (live forever, become woman, etc.) which are themselves denials of the world of lived experience and whatever concrete factors are involved with it. Christianity is not the opposite of lowly pursuits it is those pursuits given a pretty dressing—what one cannot usurp on earth one will be given in death... the first shall be last. These ideas contained in Christianity and "wokeism" share more of a genealogy than atheism and "wokeism."

op got more than he expected from this

>>6599189
I would be one of the best loli artists if that wasn't the case.

>>6600363
>Don't seek God
just like I don't seek unicorns, I will keep doing the same with God kek.

>>6599189
it is and it is not, do you understand me?

>>6599189
For the number one hypocrite, yes it is.

it is and it is not, do you understand me?

>>6599572
It's fucking annoying

>>6600700
No god in times of plenty
No atheist in a foxhole

You are just an ungrateful hedon

>>6600713
The fight for Israel has led to dead children, yes

>>6599189
Draw an in depth guide of how to build a bomb, see what happens

>>6600813
Contrary to what the meme tells you, military manuals are publicly available
Here's the link
>https://archive.org/details/military-manuals

Really sad that we have access to 80% of world literature and yet most people would rather do porn.

Anyway, enjoy the study.
Society is collapsing soon

>>6600834
>Contrary to what the meme tells you, military manuals are publicly available
And if they're not they'll be leaked on the War Thunder forums anyways

>>6600713
I want to draw art like this, how do I start

>>6599322
those little ships are cute, show me more

>>6599189
Only in shithole countries and only in the minds of retarded subhumans who have no grasp of self awareness.

>>6599255
lmao

>>6600008
lol, a casual stroll through any college campus will show that religion can't die. Atheists just pray to their politicians instead of their priests. And let them fuck them over just as hard if not worse.

The great grand children of today's newborns will still be reading about the Pope's weekly ramblings on their neuralink news feed.

>>6600363
Yo chill out there, I'm a hedonist and I'm still Christian. My homie Francis has spoken a lot about sins of the flesh being low tier, God doesn't want you to suffer a shitty wasted life, so long as your plenty is not your neighbor's want there's no crime.

And no, me not eating that second serving of ice cream is not gonna take the food from the plate of some African runt, don't be retarded.

>>6600378
>someone who doesn't understand religion telling me what religions actually pursue
come on now anon, and again, you're tying it down to christianity despite the fact that nearly every mahor religion in the world and nearly most religions in history (even some ideologies even) promotes a belief in the rejection of base and animalistic desires in favour of higher-level pursuits. Christianity doesn't even preach the belief of 'what one cannot usurp on earth shall be granted in death', first off, there is no usurpation of anything, rejection isn't usurpation after all, second, its not even granted upon death but on the second coming of Christ after the Kingdom of Heaven is established on Earth after the defeat of Satan, and third, Christianity does not even deny the fact that the material world exists or of what 'lived experiences' are, however you define such a nebulous term.

In addition, you are again just trying to fit a square peg in a round hole in your attempts to connect modern 'wokeism' to Christianity, when its original geneology lies from Gramscian writings which in turn is based upon Marxist ideas. At best, you're making connections between to things that literally most fucking ideologies have (aka a pursuit of a percieved higher and perfect ideal) and stating that two specific ideologies are therefore tied to each other. At worst, you're intentionally conflating Christianity with wokeism while having no idea about the core tenets of both ideologies as a way to '''defend''' atheism in order to prop it up as not being woke, which is fucking stupid since both aren't even mutually inclusive. One can be an atheist without being woke, and one can be woke without being an atheist (see Liberal Christianity and the various woke protestant churches in america)

>this just proves my point!
no it does not, correlation does not equate to causation, and as previously established, the connection is something most ideologies hsve in common to begin with

>>6599910
draw a pedophile warmonger fucking and eating pigs with a subtitle of "the true depiction of mohammed"

>>6599280
none of that is illegal, that's all civil cases.

>>6600844
hey, one of the more recent leaks happened here to win an argument.

>>6599189
Ok, generally 2 things are illegal

loli and beastisality. universally these are 2 common ones.

depending on country, muhammad may actually be illegal to draw, not just a threat on your life for doing so.

in america, on a federal level, they male loli laws but these near universally get shot down, on a state/local level loli and beast, along with quite a few other things, will fall under obscenity laws, which on a federal level will get overturned, sometimes even on a state level, but you have to be willing to have your name cemented next to your degeneracy, so it rarely gets challenged. there are at least to my knowledge, 4 cases of someone with loli alone going to jail, largely to keep their name out of media, because media will just call you a pedo no matter what.

>>6601328
>the second coming of Christ after the Kingdom of Heaven is established on Earth after the defeat of Satan,
just a fluffy allegorical version of what I had said, the desire is that earthly situation is overturned in favor of all the meek praying people, who finally get their revenge against the non-believers, not through an n-th failed revolt against the Romans but by the hand of God whose victory is assured (at some point). This is a nasty little fantasy but the context is lost on latter-day larpers on a cartoon porn forum.
Marxism also shares strong affinities with this goal of Christianity to crush all the mean facts of life and replace them with Disney World, which makes sense, as after all it is an attempt to speed up this same timeline you have given. No need to wait for God to judge and execute when a vanguard of the proletariat can step up to the plate.
One can indeed be an atheist without being "woke" or "woke" without being atheist, which if we go earlier in this thread, was not what the other poster was claiming—he saw a direct line between atheism and "wokeism." This line is better drawn from Christianity, which should be obvious given the Christian interest in denial of reality, destruction of cultural heritage, and promise of a triumph of the oppressed. Atheism is by itself is just a shrug, but many Western atheists are not mere atheists but cultural Christians hence the apparent clustering of "woke" ideologies. The heresiologists of old would have a field day with these sorts of Christians. Their break with official Christianity is severe on a dogmatic level but on a moral one there is great continuity

>>6599316
Jews

>>6600793
No evidence for God in times of plenty nor in foxholes, nor on your death bed.
I'm simply not a delusional gullible moron.

>>6601172
>lol, a casual stroll through any college campus
lol, imagine having to live in murrica kek
you guys are regressing instead of progressing, because of your conservative leaders.

>>6601459
just passing by nigger

>>6601172
>Atheists just pray to their politicians instead of their priests. And let them fuck them over just as hard if not worse.
Imagine saying this with a straight face. Your priests literally fuck your children, yet you keep believing in that nonsense. You're just a bunch of indoctrinated drones. It's fucking sad to see adult people actually believing there's a sky daddy.

I think Canada bans you from drawings characters considered "minors" (lmfao)

>>6599572
The way you feel persecuted by people on the internet tells me that you don't go out very much, don't you?
Nabokov and Matzneff are pretty much mentally ill anyway.

>>6600834
What are chances those books are bullshit?
I heard that Anarchist Cookbook was messed with to make the recipes useless or dangerous to the user.

>>6600892
So, USA?

>>6601359
>just a fluffy allegorical version of what I had said, the desire is that earthly situation is overturned in favor of all the meek praying people,
hardly, given the context of how early Christianity functioned they can hardly be called 'meek praying peoples', especially considering how much the Romans attempted to extinguish Christianity and how it only served to strengthen Christian faith to the point of martyrdom. This 'overturning' that you speak of isn't even necessarily special to religions or ideologies, let alone Christianity, it's simply a matter of paradigms shifting, which happens whenever a reigning mode of thought is replaced by another.

>Marxism also shares strong affinities with this goal of Christianity
and as I pointed out previously, these 'affinities' that you seem to point out aren't special to Christianity. again, you're disingenuously connecting two things and stating that it therefore means they have the same goals. again, the goals of Christianity is incompatible with the goals of the modern woke ideology or of Marxism as is obvious, and this conflation you made between marxism and christianity 'crushing the facts of life, denial of reality' heavily relies on the 'facts' as you say they are being actual objective truths and the 'facts' that christianity and marxism are peddle are obvious falsehoods. the fact that you yourself are uncritical of your own position renders you simply as dogmatic as you claim these movements are.

>but many Western atheists are not mere atheists but cultural Christians
which in of itself is a consequence of them being born in countries that are in part influenced by Christianity. this is a poor argument regardless, correlation doesn't imply causation, not to mention that there is weight to the claim that their ideologies have adopted and co-opted concepts from religions. at that point, it can hardly be claimed that there is a 'natural continuity' between them and Christianity.

>>6601524
>>6601359
>Christian interest in denial of reality
again, questionable given that your position is in opposition to the enemy's position, thus it would be natural for you to claim that they deny reality, or at least, the reality which you believe is reality.

>destruction of cultural heritage
every ideology and religion does this to a certain extent, but even then, this isn't even a goal of Christianity as it is a consequence of it, much as it is a consequence of imperialist western nations colonizing and spreading their nation's beliefs and ideas to other lands to destroy the cultures of those they have conquered, or a consequence of romans destroying the cultural heritage of those they have conquered in an effort to spread the beliefs of their empire.

hell, it cannot even be said that Christianity even meets this criteria, as it is now the dominant cultural tradition and has therefore built its own cultural heritage it seeks to protect and maintain

>promise of a triumph of the oppressed.
the only fair metric in your list, though at the same time it's something that can be broadly conferred to a multitude of other ideologies, especially ideologies that have been actively (or at the very least, percieved themselves to be) supressed. nevertheless, your list of metrics as a whole is mostly vague at best and definitely misleading at worst

>he saw a direct line between atheism and "wokeism."
he isn't exactly wrong, though. if we are to follow your train of logic then I could very much argue that the vast majority of woke ideologies have an atheist or even anti-theistic component that is inseparable to its existence and its doctrines.

>>6601526
>>6601359
>Their break with official Christianity is severe on a dogmatic level but on a moral one there is great continuity
this one I disagree with, as the moral component of Christianity and the moral component of the modern woke movement, while having some similarities, are pretty much incompatible with each other even if we are to simply consider their core beliefs, since the core tenets of Christian moral beliefs center around God and maintaining a close relationship with him, while the core tenets of modern woke movements, disparate as they are, tend to be defined around the subversion, deconstruction, and abolition of the current norms of society in favour of alternative ones and seeing such subversion and abolition as morally good in of itself.

>>6601526
>the vast majority of woke ideologies have an atheist or even anti-theistic component
Being woke is being secular. Separation of state and religion, but equally accepting of all (tolerant) religious and non-religious people.

>>6601521
Is the fact that it was approved by the Department of Defense and regularly distributed to the infantries not good enough

Sorry, I haven't studied Chemistry yet to confirm or deny

>>6601458
*who never studied shit
Don't forget that part lol

>>6601577
>who never studied shit
if by shit you mean theism, then yes. I never studied that crap.
I can't imagine a bigger waste of time.

>>6601576
Some fed bullshit could be done to alter the online versions, tho.

>>6601752
You have never touched even science books lol

>>6599388
Based

>>6601524
>rejecting the dogmatic assertions about heaven or the classless paradise promised by these utopian ideologies hand-tooled to corral desperate people makes you the real dogmatist
ok larper

>>6602056
I had to in order to graduate.
1. I'm american
2. I'm a kid
3. I never read any books

what's next?

>>6602131
LMAO
You are 30 years old and last time you touched a book was in school.
That's 10 years ago

Back up your ass with some air and download some textbboks at Scholarworks, you dummy

>>6602149
>You are 30 years old and last time you touched a book was in school.
Iguess that's n 4 lmao
what's n 5 gonna be?

It's just normal that the majority of people in developed countries study science at a point in their life, no matter if you're religious or not.
that was the point I was trying to make.
unless you're a homeschooled creationist or something.

no, I'm not going to start studying theology. as I said, it's a waste of time, just like reading any other fairy tale would be for a grown man.
if I want to learn smart people's worldviews, philosophy is definitely a better option.

>>6602260
blah blah blah
Man of science yet never read science

>>6602264
>blah blah blah
a typical resposne of a religious dumbass.
but I guess I can't expect more from somebody that is ashamed of their own religious beliefs.

>>6602267
lol ok

>>6599189
Jewtube recommend it and I blocked it immediately (if that faction even works)

>>6600025
>>6599280
Didn't read entire thread, but this is the only kind of answer that matters.

Still, it's arbitrary, and the question you should make yourself is whether or not your art-making is MORAL.

In that sense, I'd rather draw pipebomb instructions for a living than naked Resident Evil woman of the month or some soul-selling shit like that.

>>6602034
Go consult /sci/ then.
Or try it for yourself if you doubt it so much

Improvised munitions include recipes for creating napalm using gasoline and egg whites/ animal blood.
Never tried it because I don't want to waste food and it's guaranteed to smell like ass

It also has recipes for creating inflamable/explosive bricks for sabotaging buildings. See if it works for you

>>6599920
What do you call the DM5? lul (also the hippocratic oath is to apollo, so yes they do)

>>6600015
All this knowledge and you choose to be a fucking cathie.

>>6600015
>>6603487
Also you're jist plain wrong on your history, but no one can blame you there

>>6603487
I choose to define myself, and others, based on inherent merit than belief.

Thank you very much

>>6603489
Do explain

>>6599920
Except you die and then you find out drawing coom for 40 years wasnt worth the eternal damnation.

>>6601521
>Anarchist Cookbook
This was a literal bs.
No more accurate than self help books
It was never messed up. Author is just a pretentious fuck

>thread derailed into petty religious debate
no clue why janny allows this shit in the artwork and critique board

>>6603663
Any good doujins about this particular isekai setting?

>>6603759
they enjoy seeing us fight like dogs

>>6599189
multiple artworks have gone to court over the obscenity act.
better thread would be 'should drawing be illegal'

>>6599255
>The laws of God are unavoidable so yes there are illegal drawings

>>6601347
Probably have to make him look arabic or persian too, right?

>>6604164
araps =! Persian (Aryan)

>>6604164
Make him look Jewish

>>6604175
>>6604164
good question, would they be pissed if you made him a jew, or would they be less pissed because its a jew and cant be mohammed?

>>6599316
South Park doesn't have the balls anymore.

>>6603663
Stop believing in nonsense, retard.

>>6604243
Read something
Man up to your ideals

>>6599255
> Your stature is like a palm tree, and your breasts are like its clusters. I say I will climb the palm tree and lay hold of its fruit. Oh may your breasts be like clusters of the vine, and the scent of your breath like apples
> Song of Solomon 7:7-8 ESV
Take you pharisee larping off my Christian website.

>>6604398
>dat mental image of God going BOOBA
wew

>>6604233
I actually had this idea to draw him as a smug Pepe and his facehorse Buraq thing he's riding a wojak. Kinda based idea, no?

>>6604233
I have heard a theory he was actually Jewish. Problem is how tell them that without going words words words.

>>6604294
I don't have kids to read them fairytales, sorry.

>>6604294
Wait, are you telling me you believe in hell? And you got evidence for it from scientific books?
You aren't dumb enough to think the bible is a science book, right?

>>6604886
What science book have you read?

>>6604886
haha dumbass

>>6604889
Only popular science stuff about physics and astronomy.
From the top of my head, Greene, Hawking, Feynman, Cox, Carroll,...

>>6604937
Drop your larp lmao
I'm a regular at /sci/ and no one cares about authors.

It is one thing to be a retard
It is another to deny that you're a retard

>>6604946
Oh no, the religious retard that is too oblivious to realize that he's been indoctrinated into believing to a fairy tale is calling me names.
How will I ever recover kek.

>>6605070
Whatever dummy
I'm reading plumbing systems now

>>6604946
This is something I have at home rn.

>>6605080
>I'm reading plumbing systems now
Are you searching for God in the local sewer?

>>6605101
Spoiler alert:
God is everywhere
There is no greater form of worship than to study his craftmanship

Now go and read
Amass yourself in his masterful strokes

>>6605108
You sound like somebody that has been brainwashed.
I wonder why kek.

>>6605111
Brainwashed into taking care of my physique because I was made in his image and I refuse to taint it

Brainwashed into studying because I adore the master and his works

Brainwashed into learning as many skills as I can within my lifetime for I refuse to disappoint his expectations

You?
What has atheism done for you?

>>6605121
>thinking god looks like some hairless ape
KEK

>>6605128
Cry bitch, cry

You will die an embarrassment to everyone, including yourself

People like me face the Lord and ask him how impressed he was

>>6605140
Sounds gay

>>6599572
The government does go after you if you live in the wrong place, which isn't very unlikely.

>>6605140
lol you dont have a dad

>>6605121
I don't need a God for any of these.

Do you really need a fairy tale to teach you common sense? How fucking stupid are you?

Also, based on how preachy you are, I think you are just trolling.

>>6605725
Please listen to yourself speaking
You are 31 years old whose only achievement in life is the fact that you are an atheist.

You are so ashamed of yourself that you had to larp so damn hard in front of me

You are nothing to me

>>6605726
You can't act haughty if you had to wait 9 hours for that

>>6605725
May I presume that you are also a NEET?

>>6605731
im not even an atheist dude i just think you're an idiot who cant motivate themselves without the self-perceived validation of your magic sky daddy

>>6605741
Pfft
Result is all that matters
And the result is I feel so damn alive

I am healthy from all angles.
The fuck are you compared to me

>>6605734
are you unironically brain damaged?

>>6605834
so healthy that you spend your time boasting about your lifestyle on 4chan?

>>6605731
Holy projecting dripping off this post.

christcucks are the new fedora tippers. sound exactly as preachy and smug as atheists back then.

>>6605976
Nope. He said it himself >>6599958

>>6605925
Yes
What do you have to boast

>>6599189
>Bait thread
For context, the girl in this was underaged when some 4chan incel most likely tried to get a porno commision from her in an attempt to groom her

Worse part is, he wasn't even asking her directly for her skills, he got her teacher into thinking he was a professional and when he got contacted he didn't even wanted her art style, he wanted one of a porn artist's style that likely turned him down becauise he wasn't going to waste time on some coombrain.

Basically, fuck OP, and fuck coombrains that try to devalue morality just because "it's just a drawing bro". If you need sex touch grass and get a real woman.

>>6599316
Parody. Porn isn't parody, espeically if for profit.

>>6606401
Imagine thinking only one person is calling out your BS kek.

>>6607207
>BS
Get a life.
Atheism is not a personality

>>6607301
Neither is religion, you retard.
Just accept the fact that it's all made up BS and move on.

>>6599249
Bet you don't even know when Draw a Mohammed day is

>>6599280
>2. You are not allowed to trace copyrighted works as that is plagiarism
lol
but I can make a fucking grid and copy exactly how that drawing looks and sell it as my own huh

or copy some else's style
or the pose
or the composition
it's all good as long as I don't trace
stupid af

>>6599189
Anything can be illegal. You just have to write that X is illegal on a piece of paper and then be able to enforce that rule violently.

>>6606823
For context? Aren't you just telling a sob story to justify a rant about people who gaze at naked anime girls instead of you?

>>6606823
Link to video?

Why can't we all be frens?

>>6607598
No, I'm not, that's literally what happened
>>6607603
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys1bUfDYT6Q

OP is just a faggot troglodyte.

>>6607728
My point isn't that it didn't happen, my point is that you bring up something irrelevant to OP's basic question so you can express righteous indignation in regard to coomers.

>>6607434
You're 30 years old and atheism is your only property.
Go read and get an achievement

>>6607859
Defending a dead jew on a stick is not a personality trait.

>>6607862
Like it or not, Christianity holds a great legacy worth studying
Atheism's legacy is communism

>>6607864
>Like it or not, Christianity holds a great legacy worth studying
Not arguing with that. Doesn't make it the story true though

>>6607864
Based of based

17:31 of "OMG im a MINOR and someone asked me to draw something NSFW omg can you BELIEVE it"
Women were a mistake, how the fuck do you talk this long while saying nothing

>>6607890
Aren't you supposed to be 18 or over to have a PayPal account? If somebody's accepting online commissions, it's pretty safe to assume they're over 18 unless they say otherwise.

>>6607938
Nta but she wasn't taking commisions, she was literally a teenager still noob when it comes to art. But yeah, i agree that it's pretty cringe to complain about this - it is a funny story though

>>6607859
>You're 30 years old and atheism is your only property.
I love how you religious nutcases can only spout lies and assumptions. this is now the 6th time that you had to make up some shit about me in order to make yourself feel better for wasting your life on a made up fairytale.
you are utterly pathetic.

>>6608067
Name your achievement

>>6608081
not being an idiot that believes in nonsense

>>6608096
lol
k

>>6607702
People like feeling superior to others

>>6605912
I refuse to think he's not just trolling
wildest things being written here
on a drawing board thread
that was more about illegal drawings

and no, loli drawings should not be illegal and neither should drawings that use non-csam material as reference

>>6607702
>Athiests are narcissistic retards
>4chan Christians are egomaniacs
I like normie christianity where people say God is good and tell people to burn in hell, that's comfy

>>6608688
Assholes are assholes regardless of beliefs.
What matters is whether you understand your belief or does your own research about it or just another sheep

>>6608688
better than listening to a bunch of atheists saying that being a slave to communism is good and that men are women with penises

>>6608756
please, at least read a short summary of communism from an unbiased source before opening your mouth again
for God's sake
please

>>6608756
imagine thinking that atheism has anything to do with politics
atheism = not believing in any deity. period

>>6608947
Yeah, be humiliated bitch
This is what atheism brings to the world

No god = ungodly society

>>6608957
>>6608957
>No god = ungodly society
I wish that was the case. Sadly most of the world still consists of indoctrinated individuals unable to escape the clutches of the cults they were born into.
It's pretty sad.

>>6608966
God Glory and Gold cocksucker
The cross leads to uncharted lands and beyond

Stuff your mouth with ladyboner

>>6599316
it was only for those few years. south park pussed our and didn’t depict muhamed during these years (was this the episode they were also roasting family guy?)

>>6608976
>this amount of trolling
You aren't fooling anyone, dumbass.

>>6599700
Ugly elephant legs

>>6609431
New York and Cali are 100% atheist
Go live there

>>6609470
if god is real, he wouldn't have let the world get as bad as it has. I can't rightly believe in a creator who lets his creation spiral out of control, only to say "yeah ill fix it later" with heaven/hell and that be it. Rapture bullshit aside.

>>6610509
Epicurean dilemma
>hurr capable but not willing therefore bad

1. He cannot intervene without violating Free Will
2. You are in an imperfect world. Bad things are as common as good things

Go read up on your own beliefs

>>6609470
>ive never been to new york or california and just believe everything i read online instead

>>6611133
Yeah, I'm sure they are Christians
Come on. Give me an atheistic country that is not a commie shithole

>>6611136
>38 million people are all the same

>>6611157
Eat shit
You have your land of atheists now enjoy your utopia

>>6610533
>1. He cannot intervene without violating Free Will
NTA but this argument never made sense to me. God is omnipotent, so why can't he? Sure, we as humans cannot comprehend such a world where intervention and free will are not opposites but he surely could have made one because he is all powerful, if he cannot, then he is not omnipotent and the Bible is false. Just like he could have made a world where pi does not equal 3.14 despite it being literally incomprehnsible to us since pi cannot equal anything but 3.14 but he could have, he just didn't.

>>6611884
He made the game and he is bound by his rule that he cannot violate his creation's free will

He is the game dev
Holy Spirit is his admin rights
Jesus is his player avatar

Oversimplified the definition of complex theology but whatever.
God can just change the game anytime he wishes but that would be against his principles

So just suck it
We were expelled from Eden into a world that sucks.
Jesus relieved us from original sin and therefore no longer have to follow the Old Testament
But we still have to earn our place in heaven

>>6611940
>all these mental gymnastics to try to make sense of a story that was obviously made up by primitive people that didn't know better
how can you be so fucking dense?

>>6599496
>how can you have it if you lack a proper example and an authority that would judge you regardless of your role in society.
ever since i became an atheist, because i dont have god watching over me anymore, i've raped and murdered everyone i wanted to without fear, thankfully i've not wanted to rape and murder anyone at any point in my life because im a normal person

>>6612128
Act sarcastic all you wish but that's exactly what's going on in Blue states
Criminals have more rights than taxpayers

Thanks, atheism

>>6607702
i like to show how much morality i have compared to others, that way i feel like my pointless and meaningless live has some kind of value

>>6599189
I think the underlying question you are truly concerned about is the legality of conducting any business where monetary gain is exchanged for the 'illegal' depictions. I would make a distinction here being a trade fag, that perhaps renders should be policed the more sophisticated they become with the help of AI.

I hope to no longer be alive the day mere pencil and paper drawings are automatically considered illegal. Also E-wallets and other payment processors are sure to become more and more severe at policing these kind of transactions for whatever private organization happens to fulfill the role of the power that be.

Drawing and making art is the last frontier for many, I know it is for me. Assume what you will out of this humble opinion.

>>6613086
why do i recognize this cropped femboy hentai?

>>6610533
How come humans can help others without violating free will?

>>6599249
This place. You guys.

>>6611940
>he made the game
Yes he did. So why didn't he make the game where we didn't have to suffer?

> he is bound by his rule that he cannot violate his creation's free will
You're missing my point entirely. I understand that based on the rules of the religion, God does not intervene because in this world, intervention would mean the destruction of free will. My point is, God set down those rules for absolutely no reason. He COULD have made a game where he could intervene and free will would still be preserved because he is God and he can do anything. He arbitrarily decided that we are going to suffer based on the rules that he made.

>>6613243
Because of Adam and Eve

God made them perfect in a perfect world
They violated the rules
And was thus expelled

Contrary to popular belief, no. Adam and Eve were not expelled for eating the forbidden fruit
Violating God's rule because you seek to improve yourself is admirable. Eve sharing the fruit with her husband is commendable.

God's wrath befell on them for the simple crime of blaming others for their mistake.
Adam blamed Eve
Eve blamed the Snake
This is cowardice and a corrupted form of free will. You wish to escape your punishment by giving it to others when you know full well that the fault is entirely on you.

Also, no.
Your argument of "what is the point of life" is a moot one.
Life has no meaning
You live, you die.
It is the struggle that everyone cares about. Whether you use your time for good things or for jacking off all day until you commit suicide as a 40 year old neet is all up to you
Just be absolutely sure that you do not blame others for your own actions

You had multiple warning signs and you ignored all of them

>>6613309
You missed my entire point again. I don't care of the biblical reason that we suffer, I care that God made the world and us so that we will suffer and God knew that.

God knew Adam and Eve would be cast out of the garden because he made them imperfectly. It is not the fault of the program if it makes a mistake, that is the fault of the programmer.

>Your argument of "what is the point of life" is a moot one.
I made no such argument.

>>6613312
No, YOU suffer.

Life is not perfect. It is not purely good nor is it purely chaotic
God is able to predict the future is no different from a parent looking at their child
You know that he is going to fall off the chair if he keeps on moving like that so you told him.
But he gave the middle finger, fell, and hurt himself

Someone having both the ability to know the future and change it doesn't mean that he had to force you from acting like an idiot. That's against Free Will.

God gave you the warning signs that your life is a mess that should be fixed asap. This is one of them
Ignore it at your own peril

>>6613323
Gonna ignore everything else you said and stay on topic.

>Someone having both the ability to know the future and change it doesn't mean that he had to force you from acting like an idiot.
>That's against Free Will.
Then why can't God just make it not against free will? He is all powerful. As incomprehensible as it sounds to us, God can forcibly stop us from doing things which cause us to suffer whilst also maintaining our free will. If God cannot do this, God is not omnipotent and the Bible and is false.

>>6613329
Because he does not want to, numbnuts
Play the game as he intended or fucking quit

The rope is over there

But no, you'd rather be that guy who spends his time whining that this game sucks and being a general annoyance to all.

>>6613333
>Because he does not want to, numbnuts
So God is arbitrary and you know it. Good luck getting into Heaven thinking your own god is arbitrary.

>>6613338
Whatever.

>>6613339
get btfo'd

>>6613309
>God made them perfect in a perfect world
>They violated the rules
Pick one, you absolute moron.

>>6613333
>Because he does not want to, numbnuts
Then he's not all loving and benevolent. Or maybe he's just a psycho? Which is it?

>>6613339
You are too stupid to debate this topic. But it was a given, since you are so stupid to believe in biblical nonsense to begin with.

>>6613386
God already logged in as a normal player in an impoverished level so no complains. Then he showed everyone how you are supposed to play it.

Whatever argument you have can easily be answered by reading about Jesus' preachings

>>6613386
Spoiler alert:
He loves you
You made yourself unlovable
Get fucked

>>6605714
>France now considers it on the same level as real imagery.
Shit like this scares the shit out of me, and I'm not even into loli stuff. It's becoming ubiquitous too. It's terrifying.

>>6613397
Jesus was actually the original communist revolutionary who tried to show everyone that we have to change the capitalist status quo of hierarchical oppression.

>>6613485
Nah, it was commies who wanted a corrupted Jesus

Jesus is completely apolitical.
Just be good and you go to heaven.

Anyone who uses religious and cultural icons to push an agenda and rise up the social ranks should be placed on a pike.

>>6599189
>"Uh, that sounds illegal"
What did this particular "client" say? Was it weird coomer shit?

>>6613512
>Just be good and you go to heaven.
Way to oversimplify the life of someone who taught compassion, charity, forgiveness. Jesus cannot be apolitical when he wanted to destroy the political order and become king of a new order founded on ethics. You can be sure that if Jesus, Muhammad, or Buddha, were alive today, they would say many things which aligns with communist thought.
Abolishing hierarchical oppression is not what constitutes to 'rising up the social ranks', idiot.

>>6599189
In certain countries it is illegal to depict underage characters engaging in sexual activities, although some more respected literary works get an exemption due to their artistic merit

In regards to the video, while it is def inappropriate to ask a minor to draw porn it's the distribution of pornography to minors that's illegal rather than its production or consumption so a minor drawing porn feels like more of a legally grey area

>>6613526
Hey buddy.
Charity and compassion are fundamental necessities for every society for society cannot run without mutual trust.

Every person in the world knows what is right and what is wrong.
The only question is how you intend to do good things

Communism is the person who robs everyone "for the greater good".
Oh, and he tells you to worship him and anyone who disagrees go to gulag

So take your champagne commie shit back to your Blue shithole

>>6613541
To be more precise it's illegal in Canada, Australia, the UK and certain European countries, but legal in US, Japan, France, Italy, etc...

If the drawing is photorealistic it's illegal in EU countries, and Illegal everywhere if you use photos of minors in the production process although then it's not really a drawing anymore

Also there are other stuff that can make a work of art illegal sucha as copyright infringement, libel and instigation to commit crime although the last 2 are hard to actually include in fiction in a meaningful way

>>6599282
From what I know it's more of an American tradition (unless you where born to a jewish family or something), the main argument for it pretty much boils down to lazyness as not having a foreskin makes it eazier to clean the penis.

Anyways, this should be something decided by the individual once they turn 18, not forced upon by the parents.
>>6599698
From what I know it helps with natural lubrication and increases sexual pleasure

>>6613542
>communism is le gulag xD
i wish the american education system would bother teaching you even basic political history so i wouldn't have to hear this dumb shit on a constant basis

>>6613400
>You made yourself unlovable
Then he didn't do a good job, sorry.
All your religious arguments are dumb as fuck.

>>6613699
All that god wanted from you is to help others
Did you do it?
No?

Your fault. Suck it

>>6613608
Oh right, you faggot call it "Cancelled" now
Go back to your blue shithole

>>6606011
This. It's funny how they refuse to acknowledge it.

>>6614026
Allegedly all that God wants from you gullible retards is that you worship him.

I get my moral standards from reality, evolution and primary and secodary socialization.
I guess it's good religion exists, so that psychos like you don't start going around randomly murdering and raping people.
Please, keep reading your book.

>>6613542
>I cannot differentiate between communism and socialism.

>>6616893
Cool cool
Now go help someone

>>6616953
>not real communism

>>6616960
>Now go help someone
You ain't fooling anyone with that BS.

>>6616960
>>not real communism
It literally wasn't. The USSR never said they achieved communism because communism is an end state not an ever changing system of governence with an economic model tacked onto it, e.g. capitalism. Communism is a well defined social-economic model whereas capitalism is a more vague ethereal idea. I'm not defending communism, you just literally do not understand the difference between socialism and communism. Socialism is the transitory phase between whatever was before and communism as according to Marxist-Leninism. There's a reason Americans are generally thought of as stupid and you are part of that reason.

>>6617971
*yawn*
Who cares
True communism is impossible to happen due basic fucking common sense

>>6618351
No it isn't. True communism exists in places like monasteries.

>>6619395
It can only exist in places where the commune is small and every individual can easily be held accountable for his misdeeds

Nationwide communism would require everyone to be selfless.
To enforce selflessness, you need absolute surveillance and authority
Which require the government to have complete uncontestable dominion

But who can make the government accountable for its misdeeds

Would be fun if you can create a communistic country where the state enforces every citizen to have a gun to protect thsemves from the government.
Just to see what happens
But whatever