/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

That felt really refreshing to see.
The true answer to AI aren't laws or regulations, it's public shaming.

>>6595889
>>6595921
You love to see it. Bully the pajeets out of our spaces. Gatekeep the smelly brown mukmuk turds. Total Poo Death

>>6595921
How do these AI turds amass such large followings? An AI turd with ten followers pumps out the exact same shit as any other AI turd, so what's the difference? One spams shit at the wall harder than the other?

>>6595942
Most retards using Twitter don't use the For you feature instead of seeing tweets only by the people they follow.
And when you make a post containing AI it gets pushed by the algorithm because it's a popular argument.
Also bots.

>>6595921
The guy who asked him to stop was the original artist for that Arknights character, by the way.

>>6595889
what happened, not everyone lives on twitter

>>6595921
Twitter troons crying like mad, love to see it
Gonna download the LoRA cause it's probably cool

>>6595949
See >>6595921
>official Arknights character artist explicitly tells people not to use his shit for AI training in his bio (character in question is Skadi)
>AI fag does it anyways
>tells AI fag not to tag him in his proompt shit while reminding him of what he asked
>AI fag has a meltie, tells him its up to Hypergryph (the devs of the game), calls upon the Arknights community to defend him from le evil bullying
>the arknights community collectively shits on him
>they start a #realSkadiArt tag for actual people to share their character art and support the official artist

>>6595948
Even if the dude was the pope you don't have to listen to him lmao

It seems like a good way to make people fume with rage though, should make my own LoRA and start spamming Skadi tag with it, along with mentioning the artist

>>6595921
The fair use thing he mentions isn't even from USPTO is from a document made by OpenAI.
And it doesn't even matter because fair use is an american thing and this guy is German.

>>6595921
Probably gonna open an AI Twitter account and start spamming the Skadi tag with AI art if it makes Twitter users so angry. Just gonna need a LORA first.

>>6595973
https://civitai.com/models/6135/arknights-skadi-the-corrupting-heart

>>6595966
>>6595970
>>6595973 (from mobile)
>>6595975
Samefag

>>6595976
Only two of these mention me retard

>>6595966
>>6595970

>>6595973
Please do and further turn public opinion against ai trannies, you'd be doing everyone a favor!

>>6595978
Look at the comments my dude, people are obviously seething with anger there, crying their eyes over the poor artist, and I'm supposed to be one crying while I get to laugh at them?
>>6595979
Public doesn't matter at all, only the corporate opinion matters

>>6595980
>Public doesn't matter at all, only the corporate opinion matters
I love how you retards have changed your tune from "fuck corpos now the common man will make art" to "NOOOOOOOOO SAVE CORPORATION AIEEEEEEEEE".
No matter how you spin it you will always be seen as a fraud.

>>6595980
>unable to copyright anything
>maybe training copyright troubles
Thats where you lost corpos but again please continue being an obnoxious retard!

Why don't the unwashed masses love us, AIbros... We are only trying to democratize art and tear down our oppressors...

>>6595980
you seem pretty mad, sir

>>6595981
I mean I don't speak for others but I never cared about the public retards, I mean look what it consists of, twitter retards, trannies, BLM tards, who unironically believe this shit
At least corporations only pretend to believe this shit, only to increase their profits, now that's a good approach
>>6595982
>Lost corpos
>Corpos using the AI and encouraging the usage of it
retard
Also the copyright thing is an interesting thing that may end up even more profitable in the end, as by mixing AI assets with handmade ones you'd be creating a copyright minefield, where if someone decides to "steal" the wrong asset, because they noticed some are AI generated, you get to sue them for more money than they'll ever earn in their lives, so in my opinion it's a game worth playing

>>6595985
>>6595978

>>6595986
>>6595978

>>6595921
>nuked the AI patreon he was shilling because hes scared of an actual lawsuit now

>>6595987
>>6595978

>>6595967
Genuinely what a retard, nobody would care if he kept his mouth shut and never replied to the artist and I'd get to have my Skadi lora without all the drama and bullshit
Maybe I should be thankful, even me with my shitty lowly rig can create loras and abuse AI and all the pajeets and permabegs using it and spamming it on social media make for a good smoke screen and keep away from the people actually making shit for this program

>>6595995
>>6595978

>>6595986
>>6595987
>>6595991
>>6596000
>>6595978

>>6595970
you should really reevaluate how you spend your finite time on this earth

>>6596000 (chek'd)
Listen I still give artists money I'm still subscribed to all the patreons I've been subbed to for years, and the highest I've ever shilled out for a piece of artwork is $600
Regardless this whole thing is really fucking funny to boot, a gachagame clutching their pearls like this feels almost like a comedy. I'm not here to give these Korean fags money for shitty jpegs I'm here to cum to their characters and by God I'll cum with the power of AI

>>6596004
>>6595978

>>6595970
Yeah that would be a really great idea anon. Go for it. I am sure you will get a lot of positive attention from the community.

>>6596004
Thats fine dude, this whole debacle is pretty funny no matter how you look at it

AI art is freedom of expression!
AI art is skilled work!
AI artists deserve rights!
AI artists deserve copyright protection!
AI artists deserve fair wages!

>>6595889
>a majority of people
>the most degenerate of gacha gamers
Qué?

>>6596020
>shitty font with a rainbow gradient

>can't even generate an image big enough to fit the font, so he just throws the bucket tool on the second half of the page and call it a day

I know AI 'artists' are lazy as shit, but Jesus christ why are their graphic design skills always awful?

>>6596025
>anon would unironically spend more than 2 minutes on a twitter reply to morons

>>6596023
>>6595967 explained it

>>6596020

buy my prompt

>>6596030
Just how low can these guys sink

>>6596031
>buy my drawing

>>6596025
>expecting any skill from an ai nigger
that's your mistake

>>6596033
Jesus how low can artists sink, expecting me to buy the thing they spent time on

>>6596027
I got it, just makes no sense.

>>6596040
TLDR Twitter trannies overreacting as usual, just because one AItard

>>6596040
It all boils down to nobody really likes/appreciates AI art no matter how beautiful/competent it looks like. The generative nature is considered spam by default and will be filtered by human brains soon enough like how we filter out ads in real time. At least with human art there's the human element (effort, expression etc.) to actually care about.

>even itt AI trannies cant help but damage control and try to spin whatever narrative in their favor
You will never be an artist, xir

>>6595921
AI is fair use?

>>6596045
I feel like it's a more broad issue, it's not about just AI art, but most people that aren't hardcore weaboos don't really appreciate art at all, and by extend people making it. It's like a commodity to the average Joe, that he'll consume and forget about in 5 minutes, so he doesn't care if it was AI or whatever, as long as it looks good. No thought about person behind it at all

>>6596045
Pretty much.
AI imagery is destined to be on par with cheap family guy porn pop up ads at most. I thought it might be used for cheap globohomo blob art but that clearly isn't going to happen based on consumer tastes alone.

>>6596051
It's the matter of degree. People wont always appreciate a waitress getting them a soda but they definitely wont give an ounce of respect to a vending machine.

>>6596051
To be fair your average joe will not even pay for art. That has always been the case from the very beginning. But when it comes to dedicated fanbases, they'll celebrate the fans/creators who put in actual effort contributing towards the fanbase. Its hard to respect AIfags simply because of the low-effort spammy nature of the medium. It's like valentine chocolates. Handmade shit will always be endearing compared to convenience store bought stuff

>>6596045
That's the part that makes no sense, by all accounts most people like AI art just as much as regular art, that is to say they don't care about it. I don't understand why someone would look at a bunch of twitter degenerates and draw conclusion based on that.

>>6596002
>nooooo, your definition of fun doesn't match mine! Wrongthink detected!

>>6596048
No consensus has been reached yet. We need to see how the lawsuits settle. EU is already banning shit left and right though

>>6596063
They banned OpenAI website as they collect stuff that doesn't go well with GDPR rules, on topic of AI itself, they didn't decide on anything yet

>>6596059
Its fucking Twitter anon, where most artists do their socmed stuff. Of course their following will be empathic towards them over some AI shitter.

>>6596067
no no I get that, I don't understand the person that made this thread.

>>6596063
It's also picking up steam in the USA.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/in-house-counsel/as-attention-on-ai-increases-california-ramps-up-oversight

>but it's only about ca gubmi-
this is how it always starts

>>6596068
>>6595889
>I honestly thought a majority of people would just accept AI images as normal, but after seeing the arknights AI art debacle and seeing even the most degenerate of gacha gamers clowning prompters, I gotta say AI pushed in its current form is definitely not going to take over anytime soon which is great
Because everyone expected that this next big thing called "AI" and among its subset "AI art" will be accepted by everyone except artists. Turns out there's a lot of normies/degenerates who actually care about the creators within their fanbases. They don't see artists as someone who can be disposed of in exchange for AI

>>6596074
There's a good chance though that as the time goes on and the AIs will keep improving, some people will quit. What that'll lead to, a lot of people will be discouraged to even start drawing, so down the line it won't be about disposing of artists, as people just will hesitate to even become them

>>6596075
You have way more worse problems than that because AI dependence will brainrot people who kept using AI as a crutch instead of learning/thinking anything by themselves.

>>6595889
You underestimate the love from fans for artists. It carried thousands of shitty gacha games and Vtubers.
Even normies start to realize this fake AI is designed to steal creative, high paying jobs and enslaved 99% of humanity. Especially in China where they work and die like bug everyday in hope a better future for themselves or their kids when they managed to graduate universities, this fake AI threaten to steal that future from them.
Picrel is the reaction from such people. Third line called him an AI faggot.

>>6596075
I hope ill be dead by then because this sounds like a joyless nightmare to live in

>>6596083
Eh, no point in being negative, if things go to shit they'll go to shit, but I like to think that for each bad thing, there'll be a new good thing. Maybe artists will be on verge of extinction but who knows, maybe there'll be some new creative hobby that can't be easily replicated by computer

>>6596020
>Painting tech
hah! What was painted? This is really just a stock image generator. It's more comparable to a printer than painting software.

>>6596059
>by all accounts most people like AI art just as much as regular art
By what metric? Most of the AI images that receive attention are hiding the fact that they're AI, from my perspective anyway.

>AIfags get BTFO once again
>instead of arguing further they start their retarded demoralization routine like this >>6596086

>>6596088
>AIfags get BTFO once again
AI keep getting better.

>>6596075
And then AI will become bland regurgitated drivel (well, more so), as it requires art made by humans to do anything interesting. It's a self-destructive problem - it needs artists to stay fresh and current, but it takes artists' job and stops them from creating work.

>>6596074
That's the thing, even for arknights the people on twitter are a tiny subset of their audience, so the conclusion makes no sense.

>>6596091
>>6595978

>>6596088
Anon take your meds, what part of what I said looks to you like it's a "retarded demoralization routine"
If you wanna feel sad about future go ahead
I'll keep drawing and just hope for the best

>>6596096
Not going to take my meds sorry.

>>6596091
Not really? It's about the same as it was a year or so ago, just with some neat extras such as 3D posing or in-painting, or img2img.

>>6596096
>Anon take your meds,
Cool kids beat him up in high school. Then the nerds ignored him. Still pissed about it. Keyboard racism is his only passion.

>>6596087
>By what metric
Market cap I guess, but just think about it most people don't care about art it's self-evident.

>>6596092
I just think that the internet will somehow kill itself someday and get some fresh reboot with new no-fun regulations in place.
>>6596093
Yeah but the thing trends, so its fair to assume that there's a lot of people who share the same stance. Even reddit has parrots the same opinions. Don't know about facebook and discord

>>6596103
>a lot of people
sure, but not necessarily the majority.

>>6596105
The majority is indifferent towards AI, but trends like this help shape public opinion (on twitter at the very least). If a sizeable amount of people cared about AI-generated orcas, they should've trended by now.

>>6596101
>most people don't care about art it's self-evident
Meanwhile:
>Artists get by on commissions
>There are more illustrators than ever
>Greater need for concept artists and other industry artists
>Probably more fine "aritsts" than there ever have been
>People are probably encountering art on social media and interacting with it more than ever
>Animation is as popular as ever because of anime
>Comics are as popular as ever because of manga
>These art styles are hugely popular with the general population
>Some of the most culturally significant and talked about shows currently are animated

So I just strongly disagree with you. If people didn't care for art, why would AI art even be a thing? It's because art and illustration is so important/popular that it was made.

Honestly if I was am AI proompter, I would feel such dread.
Every time I draw, I gain more experience. Every finished piece means I'm better at drawing that thing. Every completed commission is proof that I'm reliable and can put in the work to realize someone's imagination.
What skills do you gain by just proompting? After a whole year of pursuing AI generation, what are you left with?
It's not your AI vocabulary, because a pastebin of good keywords can replace that. It's not your experience in installing and setting up a complicated AI program, because it's getting easier with more tutorials and more just-click-go apps every month.
If your favorite algorithm gets deprecated, deleted, or banned, what are you left with? Months or even years of being able to masterproompt exactly what you want, what if version 2.0 (required) got rid of whatever hyperspecific 3 billion neuron pathway that your images needed?
Adobe or Celsys could literally be deleted by the government, with all traces of their programs removed online, and I can still just keep drawing. Maybe transfer my skills and workflow 1:1 to GIMP or whatever random PS clone is hot post Adobe nuke.

>>6596103
Everyone who knows about this story is shitting on the AI faggot. The only ones who arent are coping AI roaches grasping at straws trying to save face or push their retarded ideals.

>>6595921
Desperate game studio whip crackers want to keep raping people straight out of CoLeDgE for their creative powers. Fuck off ai didn’t kill you you were just already dead! A corpse does/makes nothing!

>>6596115
>Every time I draw, I gain more experience.
What does the experience mean if the market just doesn't need this kind of experience anymore?

Fyi everyone knows how useful this is and you paid astroturfing losers are left here by yourselves while they use the amazing tools!

>>6596115
They dont care about any of that, they either want to jack off or make grift money. It was never about art or improving.

>>6596116
>Everyone is shitting on the AI faggot
>the people who are "shitting" on him still have issues ratio'ing him because of amount of likes he gets
Anon... Back to the insane asylum you go

>>6596116
My point exactly anon. AI shill is just a massive clout-chasing faggot
>>6596118
Self-actualization. A higher-order human need.

>>6596118
>What does the experience mean
It means the ability to draw, you should try it sometime.

>>6596109
okay so we agree
>>6596112
I think we also agree you just aren't acknowledging the scale I'm talking about.

>>6596118
>What does the experience mean if the market just doesn't need this kind of experience anymore?
It's fun and cool.

Do AI shills really seek any higher-order need in life? Really? Are they really this nihilistic

>>6596125
No thanks, I don't really enjoy doing the plebeian activities, I'd rather leave these to the well, common folk

>>6596118
>What does the experience mean if the market just doesn't need this kind of experience anymore?

"Drawing" is a commodity and it just got automated. AI is a gimp, krita and photoshop plugin. Yeah, corporate drones cranking out the house style are going to use it to cheat. Truly creative types will figure it out and add value to their product. Maybe just to save time. Maybe to make something new and distinctive.

>>6596123
>512 vs 377... T-they're struggling haha...
He got ratio'd on literally every tweet.
Answers to his retarded shit are getting double or triple the amount of likes.
#ActualSkadiArt is trending with 11k tweets, each artwork getting exponentially more support.
You're a lying faggot. Kill yourself.

>>6596126
>I think we also agree you just aren't acknowledging the scale I'm talking about.
We're two different anons - and what do you mean scale? More people are using trying out the AI? No shit. It's the new thing, and even those who don't care much for it will try it out, not to mention companies will try it out to see if it works in their pipeline. This doesn't mean that it's really worming its way to into acceptance from the general public, only time can tell in that regard, as we see more instances like these play out, will the public eventually take the AI proompters side eventually?

>>6596134
>Mmmh yes, let's outsource all the creative thinking to a predicting machine. It surely will make something new and distinctive that is relevant to a rapidly changing world!
Novel for days, slop for eternity

>>6596078
Already happening with college and high school students using ChatGPT to make up essays for them.

Our future doctors and lawyers, fellas.

>>6595942
Because people can see quality, they see a good AI artwork and so they press like, because they can see millions of hours of knowledge went into each one of these artworks. That's why AI artworks tend to be superior to the hand drawn ones, the hand drawn ones are based on knowledge of only a single artist, however AI based artworks combine knowledge of wide variety of people, in the end creating the superior product to anything achievable by a single human

>>6596147
That's why artists are scared, they see the inevitable complete and utter defeat they'd face if they were to go against the AI, and so they panic, they cry to their followers about their entire livelihood being gravely in danger, so they can defend the poor puny artists. I do pity them at times, it must really feel like the walls are closing on you and you have really no other option but to scratch on the walls, hoping you can make any dent whatsoever, as the despair engulfs you, and you become more and more desperate. Being an artist nowadays really seems like quite the depressing experience

>>6596147
>The hand drawn ones are based on knowledge of only a single artist, however AI based artworks combine knowledge of wide variety of people
Knowledge that isn't shared by the prompter, you tard

>>6596130
>>6596147
Failed artist.

>>6596152
Indeed, however it is held in the model itself, so when the prompter says "Gimme glasses", the knowledge that has been meticulously engraved into the model is used. A single artist knows one, maybe two ways to draw glasses. Meanwhile, if you give a model 15000 examples of how to draw glasses, along with some examples of 3D ones, it'll achieve higher state of understanding them than any single person could.

>>6596150
>That's why artists are scared,
Some bad artists are scared. Some good artists are intrigued and will figure it out.

>and now we're at the falseflagging phase
Bots would unironically be more interesting to argue with than the average AI fag

>>6596141
I don't know, that's my whole point.

>>6595966
>AInigger calling anyone a troon
lol, lmao even

>>6596154
>it'll achieve higher state of understanding them than any single person could
All the AI understands is that a certain arrangement of colors forms glasses. It's not sentient. It knows what glasses look like, but it doesn't understand the meaning, nor purpose of glasses.
Back to your original ramble, AI tards like you love to attribute anything the AI does to you, as if you tried and should be applauded the same as an artist. Why would I give any support to some plonker who just yoinked a model off of CivitAi when I could just give it to the artists who make up the dataset and actually have skill?

>>6596154
lmao

>>6596163
>All the AI understands is that a certain arrangement of colors forms glasses. It's not sentient.
Oh naturally, I used the word "understanding" in quite the frivolous manner, more accurate word would be "representation capability". The knowledge of purpose of glasses isn't really required for 99% of applications, and the information where they usually go (on the nose or forehead) is sufficient.
>when I could just give it to the artists who make up the dataset and actually have skill?
Because a single one of them cannot really match the proficiency and flexibility of a trained model. The ""skill"" held by the model is beyond any artist that's ever existed, so by going and praising any of them, it'd at most be a pitful consolation prize.
>>6596161
NTA, but according to https://www.lacountyarts.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/artsworkforcedemog2017.pdf
>The LGBTQ community appears to be well represented in the arts and cultural workforce. Sixteen
percent (16%) of respondents identify as Lesbian, Gay, Bi-Sexual, Transgender, or Queer
Compared to the USA statistics (unfortunately finding global statistics for that isn't that easy), 3.5% of adults in the USA indentify as LGB, and 0.3% identify as transgender. As you can see, the artistic community is quite faggy in comparison to the general populace.

>>6596154
So instantaneous design by committee blandness. No individuality, no fun.
Explains why AI images have felt so dull.

>>6596154
Mmmh yeah cool. When is it developing autism tho?

>>6596175
Right after your's cured

>>6596175
>When is it developing autism tho?
AI is a funhouse mirror to man's psyche. Deal with it.

>>6596020
lol, what a troon

>>6596128
their whole mindset is nihilistic and dreadful. it's the same people who fall for the culture war, instigated by msm. they are soulless people, curse religion and morality, so they have to come up with something else to hate on. Satan has become Hitler has become Trump has become Putin has become...
It's the same kind of people who fight for censorship, worship and defend big corporate media, worship false idles like Spiderman and Star Wars, eat unhealthy, take meds, don't want to take any responsibility, never tried to achieve anything and give up before even trying. Their endless consoomerism also left them with a big debt, so they're hoping for the government to introduce universal basic income. They are deluding themselves so much, that they think an artist who enjoys working on his craft is actually gatekeeping them.
Then all of a sudden, AI emerges and gives them the opportunity to proompt more waifus to jerk off to. And in the end they wonder, why it's so unfulfilling. Any inkling of dread gets snuffed out and instead of dealing with their corrupted mindsets, they instead start to attack artists and become gleeful at the idea of them losing their jobs.
These are people who will always fail at everything and instead of trying to better themselves, they want to drag down the whole world with them.

>>6596170
You're a faggot, he said, putting on his programmer socks.

>>6596170
>Because a single one of them cannot really match the proficiency and flexibility of a trained model.

You're forgetting the fact that the ONLY way the model could "host" such knowledge is because of those artists. The model at best is a leech.

>>6596051
>he doesn't care if it was AI or whatever
even the worst condoomer gets tired of "new hype thing" after a while. proompters, instead of carefully curating the pictures chose to spam three a day with little variation, makes one's eyes glaze over.
>>6596059
by all accounts most people like AI art just as much as regular art
and trans women are real wolen! point me to a case of a person say "I commissioned this prompter!', I doubt you'll find many

>>6596075
>the AIs will keep improving
the technology hasn't improved in 6 years, only the bulk of data it was force-fed

>>6596020
post your prompts

>>6596181
Based and higher-order pilled

>>6596187
It's a lie and you know it, especially given the fact stable diffusion was only here for a year, before which there was latent diffusion and so on, which was based on entirely different concept, not to mention various side advancements like ControlNet, LoRA, model optimization and so on. TLDR you're retarded
>>6596185
It's like an expert on some field vs the internet. Sure, what's on internet is partially due to the expert, but if you wanna learn some more broad concept you'll go seek answers on the internet, rather than ask the single expert who only knows a narrow part of the broader concept

>>6596187
shhhhh you arent supposed to point this out
look at this crazy lora I did, its so close to the 3 drawings I trained it on that its practically photobashing but its improving every day lol its exponentially over for artfags

Imagine getting XRmogged in likes by an AI artist.

>>6596189

>>6596191
The internet isnt inherently stealing other peoples work to function at all. Are you niggers incapable of formulating a single argument that doesnt try to misdirect.

>>6596197
>stealing
well neither is AI

>>6596197
Neither is the machine learning process itself though? The data fed depends only on the human that feeds it, it can be some properly sourced data, or data simply scraped from wherver. Same for internet, what you see there may be something that original owner has uploaded, or scans from some book the person uploading didn't even pay for

>>6596199
Show me where I consented for my data to be used for AI training?

>>6596202
>Show me where I consented for my data to be used for AI training?
Did you read the EULA? Yeah, it's in there.

>>6596150
are you a bot? or is this a pasta?

>>6596201
Can you stop playing dumb? You know that every model worth a shit runs on good art that the overwhelming majority of artists dont want in there.

>>6596204
Some of my pictures got uploaded to pinterest and boorus by someone else without my knowledge and scraped. What now?

>>6596208
Adobe begs to differ.
Besides, unlike internet where if you upload a scanned book, it remains well, a scanned book, the "good art" isn't represented in the final model, unless it was trained on like 2 images, as that's the only case where overfitting is possible. Their concerns are invalid as it's mathematically impossible to prove they were used in the model, unless you have access to the dataset itself

>>6596191
>it's a lie and you know it
you've fallen for a marketting ploy and trained them like a good suckers, now it's slowly getting paywalled
>"b-but muh open source"
as soon as it's paywalled you'll get rammed if you try to profit from it.

>>6596215
Stable diffusion is getting paywalled? Where?

>>6596191
it hasn't improved, you're just narrowing the range allowed for its output.

>>6596219
Which is... an improvement? It wasn't a possiblity before and you retards complain how "you can't control it", so that's quite a big improvement in your terms, and besides you are talking about the side stuff, there were improvements between latent diffusion and stable diffusion, especially in embedding representation and cross-attention, not to mention the support for xformers and so on

>>6596218
in the future, keep training it, little sheep. take all the legal responsibilities for their sake

whether it improved or not. ai is boring as shit LMAO.

>>6596222
the maximum efficient output threshold or whatever you can call it for art hasn't increased, neither has its "learning" capabilities. the current ai has peaked and you're just squeezing every bit from a fruit whose juice capacity hasn't changed.

>>6596229
>LMAO
Please consult a gastroenterologist and a psychiatrist.

>>6596201
>>6596199
that argument is just vased on semantics and will be plugged legally. maybe you're not "technically" doing X but any reasonable and honest person will know what you're doing in practice and spirit

>>6596118
>the market
lmao real npc brain over here.
But if you need your "market demand" to develop a skill rest easy that there will always be a need for drawing. It's considered fundamental for architects and any type of creative field in order to develop ideas.
And many fine artists (some which make WAY more than concept artists etc.) still draw and paint.
The "death of drawing" and "death of painting" has been pronounced many times in the fine art world due to the development of concept and performance art, but turns out artists still want to draw. Go figure.

>>6596231
It only shows you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about, there's even a meme about just slapping more convolutional layers onto the problem to increase accuracy derived from original dataset, which only goes to show that even without improving the current process you can achieve better results, as long as you are willing to throw more computational power at it

>>6596235
i know just as much as you know about art. remove the datasets and you're back to 0.

>>6596236
Yep, remove your eyes during birth and other sensory organs and you'd be back to 0 too in terms of art

>>6596236
>remove the datasets and you're back to 0.
You should drop art and go into systems research.

>>6596238
>during birth
you're already at 0 then. I don't think that analogy works

This thread... Needs cat spamming...

>>6596242
maybe you dhould drop life and get into the pod. the only improvements where training, the technology itself has barely budged in a decade

>>6596045
How are you going to tell if it's AI or not? There's no reliable way to determine it especially if post exiting was done.

I think artists are fucking terrified and they rightfully should be. Its honestly fucking hilarious. I know creative dept execs that are just itching to downsize their employee overhead by 80% which we'll within thw relm of what AI art can do.
If you are doing art as a career I would seriously consider another industry. Right now it's going to be an increasingly smaller game of musical chairs.

>>6596254
Sure Emad. I'll continue drawing, out of spite

>>6596256
I'm sure he'd like you to keep drawing, more data to train on

>>6596257
I sure do hope you don't kill the internet with it

>>6596254
this is a copy pasted answer.

The prompt element of cutting-edge artists of the future: (style of 4chan /ic:1.5)

>>6595921
If it's an anime-stylized character then lets be honest that there was no design process nor drawing skills involved.

>>6596093
That’s what you dumb fucks said about nft and shit. Look bow it’s failing every single time, corpos that do nfts loses millions to billions of dollars are either backing out or back pedaling. Why the fuck is this thread still up?

>>6596256
If you draw for a hobby and/do Trad art commissions your are fine. If you do commercial illustration, concept art and some graphic design those jobs are going to disappear in a few yeara and they are never comming back baring a few specialties for already established artists.
You can put your head in the sand and say everything is going to be alright but the truth of the matter is whether or not you accept the paradigm shift doesn't matter in the slightest.

>>6596267
>commercial illustration, concept art and some graphic design
I'm pretty sure almost no one on /ic/ does these anyway.

>>6596264
NFTs have and always were a get rich quick scam to solve a problem thatnever existed. Comparing NFTs to AI which is actually a usefull and novel technogical breakthrough isn't in the slightest at all comparable.

>>6596264
Jannie is on an easter vacation.
Please understand.

>>6596267
>"j-just give up!"
nope, technology is already being perceived as radioactive in the industry, it's not a legal minefield you want to step onto

>>6596170
You know the programmers are heavy liberal, right?

>>6596267
AI art isn't that hard to learn to make. Artists using and experimenting with it are going to be far more ahead than proompters.

>>6596270
same fags pushing it

>>6596272
>You know the programmers are heavy liberal, right?
And where are "artists"?

>>6596268
The only other sector would be digital commissions since we'll that's basically what the entire point of Art AIs function.

>>6596270
Hahahaahhaha, kys

>>6595921
Shame never stopped lolicons and furries from getting their own threads on /ic/ to say the least

>>6596273
I would agree becuase a professional artists that is trained and experienced has that asthetic knowledge that most people don't have. A an artist in theory would be better able to utilize AI than a non artist.
I'm more on the loss of jobs becuase of efficiency and not becuase AI is fundamentally better than Artists.
However for example what may have taken entire teams to do may now just be down with one or two people if there is productivity jump like with AI.

>>6596267
>If you do commercial illustration, concept art and some graphic design those jobs are going to disappear in a few yeara and they are never comming back baring a few specialties for already established artists.
You can put your head in the sand and say everything is going to be alright but the truth of the matter is whether or not you accept the paradigm shift doesn't matter in the slightest.
>t. never worked in the entertainment industry or met anyone that does

>>6596284
Because most of the demographic for this shithole basket weaving site are them.

>>6596254
>another industry
Increased competition for the remaining jobs leads to lower wages in those industries...
Not long(5 years?) now until 90% intellectual labor jobs are taken by AI.

>>6596282
You seem mad may I suggest getting some excessive or seeing therapy.
The greif process is a long one and it's important not to rush it.
I'm sure you find your niche doing Trad caricatures somewhere when AI make you unemployed.

>>6595889
>I gotta say AI pushed in its current form is definitely not going to take over anytime soon which is great
it's done. the bloom is off the rose.

>>6596290
>gets btfo
>starts lashing out as usual
Not surprised by you ai shitters

>>6595889
sure thing buddy, keep coping.

>>6596278
What? I don't think you realize the personal nature of these transactions. People don't pay me for shiny pictures. This is something AItrannies don't understand. Every pajeet in Banganalpooram is uploading billions of AI generated images and is confused about why the money isn't pouring in.

Another AI thread. What is it, 15 AI threads up and jannies are doing absolutely fucking nothing holy fuck jannies WAKE THE FUCK UP YOU SIGNED FOR BEING A JANNY DO YOUR FUCKING JOB AND KILL HALF THIS BOARD TALKING ABOUT AI SHIT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>6596300
50yo milfs don't care if it's AI or not on etsy, people who are trying to make money on twitter are retarded

Just a few more years bro. AI art will be seen as a legitimate art form and will totally not be spammy and fill every media platform bro. Everyone will love it alongside the chatgpt-powered bot accounts we made to shill Ubisoft's next big game.

>>6595942
You think the faggots who create programs to artificially create images are not also using programs to artificially inflate their follower numbers?

Majority of Twitter accounts are bots. He who controls the bots controls the narrative

>>6596301
/ic/ loves ai :3

>>6596301
Jannies delete actual threads related to art, but keep ai shit up. Jannies like ai shit

>>6595889
Faith in humanity: RESTORED

>>6596306
Haha wouldn't it be funny if marketing firms like, made bot shill accounts that generate AI art to generate hype for new product haha

>>6596311
>coca cola and nestle loved this idea

>>6596301
The only kind of retard that would apply to be an internet janny is the same kind of retard that loves AI.

>>6596314
No joy. Only consoom. Your UBI only goes back to corpo

>>6596311
If that were to happen(probably is rn) there will finally be regulations for that shit and the use of bot account might cause legal trouble

>>6596318
the problem is proving those were bot accounts in court

>>6596297
NTA but how did he get BTFOd? Twitter screenshot of a random faggot doesn't mean anything
If I posted on twitter "Bros... I think art is dying, noone is buying commisions...", would you also take it as a gotcha moment?

>>6596304
Few more years? It already is seen as legitimate if you have more than 90IQ

>>6596336
He kicked off a human artist revolt trend on Twitter so that's kinda something

>>6596344
woah. a trend. on twitter. yeah, that will last

>>6596344
That literally means nothin as the "revolt" you are talking about didn't influence anything whatsoever

>>6596336

>>6596048
At least morally, it's just as wrong as copying art for a study

>>6596336
Well, you have nothing compared to this ai shitter. So what you said will ne mindless noise

>>6596349
Only shows the true toxicity of the artists and their supporters, wishing downfall onto anyone they don't like, only goes to show that making these artists seethe and whine is not only justified, but also extremly fun

>>6596352
Sec gonna make a comment saying "Art is OVER. I didn't get a single commision for a week!", it'll hold same weight as what you posted

>>6596349
i am glad we all agreed that cyberbullying is morally correct and encouraged with these pests. He should walk out, perhaps take time from the internet and take some art classes

>>6596355
You can just check artists&clients and see the amount of reviews on the top 10 artists there diminished this year compared to last year

>>6596356
That's true, what was the name of the artist guy? gilangak92? He should be cyberbullied into hell, waiting till someone gets him suspended/fired for anti CCP comments

>>6596353
Why should people have empathy for subhumans like yourself?

>>6596360
Damn, if I'm a subhuman, then I'm unsure what your kind is, amoebas? Probably even less than that

>>6596350
Only subhuman /g/eddit grifters try to peddle this belief, rhajet.
Everybody knows that brains don't run on binary code.
You're not fooling anyone, and you never will.

>>6596359
I know your kind is eating shit right now, but watching you seethe that someone who actually draws isn’t getting cyberbullied is funny

Basically free money from bag printing

>>6596364
> Damn, I'm a subhuman,
Yes, no need to repeat on what i said.

>>6596369
How's that seething? I'm simply advocating what should happen as that'd be the funniest thing, who knows too, maybe I'll even manage to make it happen

>>6596372
Yeah, and you are the amoeba, along with your brethren. Guess the only human is Stephen Hawking then

>>6596353
>artfag asks people to not do one thing
>AI faggot does the thing
>gets called out
>has a meltdown instead of keeping his mouth shut for exactly one minute
>gets bullied by TWITTER of all things for being an autistic retard
There is literally nothing wrong with this situation and trying to make this pathetic loser look better just makes you look like a massive retard by association.

>>6596356
Based

>>6596376
Don't get me wrong, I don't care about that retard that this happened to, however I like when people are having autistic meltdowns, and don't you think if the original artist got bullied off twitter/had contract terminated, don't you think it'd cause the twitter retards to just unleash the ultimate "REEE"?

>>6596373
You have no power in any capacity you delusional virgin neckbeard.

>>6596375
> Yeah
Glad you agree and accepted the truth, anon. Now go eat shit somewhere

>>6596383
Yep, go eat some dead animal matter and algae

>>6596304
Peter Mohrbacher makes some pretty cool art using AI

>>6596380
If the artist was an actual retard doing retarded things, they deserved it. Do not tolerate nigger behavior

>>6596386
The OG HRB spammer

>>6596289
>90% intellectual labor jobs are taken by AI.
/ic is not a risk.

>>6596309
>Jannies like ai shit
More likely they got tired of the whining.

>>6596299
>sd generalfag chimes in
not surprised, you're a laughing stock outside of your bubble
>>6596337
non-retards don't by going with the definition of art and artist, ainiggers cope like troons

/ic/ "artists" don't draw, i don't know why they mad about ai

>>6596366
>Can't think of argument
>I'll just say redditor again

>>6596399
I know it's a bad indicator, however if you look at twitter, you'll notice how many likes AI artworks are getting, way more than the average drawlet, and besides, AI already won art competitions, beating humans, so dunno, people seem to like it

>>6596301
How do I filter AI related shit

>>6596349
Those posts aren't even death threats.
He's literally making shit up.

>>6596356
Lol as if AIshills haven't been doing the same to real artists recently. It goes both ways

AIfags are just as pathetic as art scammers were apparently

>>6596414
>remember guys AI can be good or bad. The tech is not to blame its the human behind it thats like, good or bad lmao
>in practice AI in a commercial setting is near exclusively used to grift and deceive
Do these fence sitting pieces of shit understand just how retarded they sound?

>>6596414
Didn't they make Civitai just to spite on Samdoesarts after he called out their bs?

>>6596422
People say things like that because they don't want to get viciously harrassed by one or the other. But ai bros harrassed her with doxxing and death threats anyway

>>6596422
member early Deviantart when every other art was copy pasted from someone? I member

>>6596423
Yeah that's what the AI harassers did to that Chinese girl. It's their go to tool, straight up unethically stealing.

>>6596429
No I meant the lora database site being built out of spite

>>6596423
They did
In mere months AIggers manage to make themselves look even worse than the art community which itself is ripe with petty bpd schizos. quite the achievement.

>>6596430
Why spite? It provides a useful service.

>>6596404
analytics of those numbers are extremely fishy

>>6596430
Oh I didn't know they made the whole site for that reason but it doesn't make me surprised at all

Unless you can make art better than this you probably shouldn't have an opinion on AI art.

>>6596434
I'll provide the useful service of gaving goons, paid through several shell companies, breaking your shit and then repairing it for a fee

>>6596437
can you? you can't

>>6596421
Yeah, this will get no where. Ig is where reposters and scammer will thrive. That’s why so many artist there are moving to twitter instead

>>6596437
Unless you can make art better than this you probably shouldn't shill ai.

>>6596439
That's why I don't run my mouth.

>>6596443
now, do it with a brush

>>6596444
A physical one? Can't, I only do digital.

>>6596443
but you do and you defeated your own statement via a paradox

>>6596445
If you can do digital art you can do traditional.
Why are you even on /ic/ fellating AI art instead of drawing yourself? Have you given up and withdrawn to AI and now you're bent on shoving it down everyone's throats like a pathetic AIshill?

>>6596446
Explain
>>6596447
Not true, I can only do digital art.

>>6596448
Can your bait at least be decent?

>>6596448
Sorry prompting doesn't count

>>6596448
How would you have felt yesterday evening if you hadn't eaten breakfast or lunch?

>>6596450
Would it get so many (you)s if it wasn't?
>>6596451
I'm not talking about prompting
>>6596452
Pretty hungry I'd wager.

>>6596443
>That's why I don't run my mouth.
>literally says that if you can't do X don't have an opinion
nigga u dumber than a bag of dicks nailed to a tree

6596453
So does updoots on plebbit, now go back

>>6596453
So explain logically how you can do digital art but not traditional, you know you can use an eraser in place of ctrl+z right? lol

>>6596454
Think my friend, I said you shouldn't have an opinion on AI art, that's an opinion about you, not about AI art.
>>6596458
I never learned, if you mean can I literally take a paint brush and make something sure I can but it'll suck.

>>6596437
That's like everyone on /ic/ including /beg/

>>6596470
pyw

>>6596447
>If you can do digital art you can do traditional.
I disagree, I feel the stabilization digital drawing programs provide is extremly useful, and without it my lines would be wobbly as fuck, not to mention layers and whatever else. Oh and vector based tools, extremly important.

>>6596448
>I can only do digital art.
That sets you apart from the actual digital artists. I've done mostly digital art, but with handdrawing comes the requirement to master and acknowledge art fundamentals. They carry with me onto a physical paper. It does for every single artist.
Proompters not being able to translate their "skeelz" onto another medium shows how much they're lacking in it.

>>6596723
If you think people can just translate their digital drawing/painting/art skills to traditional then either you are really fucking good or you are stupid.

>>6596775
Ok you pajeet shitter

>>6596791
stupid it is then.

>>6596437
You're probably the same type of nigger that posts stupid shit like "if you've never made a movie yourself you shouldn't criticize other peoples' films"
Fuck you, nigger.

>>6596775
They absolutely can, you tard. Do you think their muscle memory and knowledge about anatomy and composition evaporates once they pick up a pencil?

>>6596926
He doesn’t draw, anon. You think that pajeet faggot knows that?

The mods really dont care about this board. 6 AI threads, full of retarded AI spam and shilling

>>6596926
>>6596943
I guess it's true people on /ic/ don't draw.

>>6595942
that dude was known for translating Chinese arknights content. Turns out all of his shit mostly relies on machine translation and making shit up.

>>6596062
No one's saying you can't be a loser, we're saying you are a big fucking loser.

https://twitter.com/gommatt/status/1643917518757826561

Its happened again

>>6596147
The retardation that AI niggas have is palpable