/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6588184
it took me forever to realize values can act like contour lines

im drawing spheres
im drawing balls
all i know are basic shapes

>>6588218
Shitpost.

>>6588218
If only 4chan would ATTACH THE FUCKING PICTURE

>>6588221
Draw cubes

Asking again since I'm completely lost when I thought I had the idea kinda locked down.
Having issues with painting/rendering. Feel like I'm just monkeying around and the end result, or at least where I'm trying to go with it, is muddy and messy.
Think at this point I'll just try to keep it simple since I feel like I'm overthinking things. Anyone have any good guides? I'm looking at other artists as well as I try to get a better understanding of this.

3rd non weeb referenced study wip. This time I stylized the facial features just a little, how does it look?

>>6588224
Yeah I did that before now im doing spheres

>>6588226
Stop. Delete all the shading you've done until now. Avoid multiply layers unless you *really* know what you're doing. Pick the colors you need for the shadows instead. Do not make shit up. Use reference and imitate, and watch streams/speedpaints if you're still clueless, but use reference mainly.

>>6588240
Duly noted. I wasn't entirely confident in what I was doing up to that point anyways, so I guess it's better to throw the shading in the can and start again.
Thanks for the webm. I'll add that to whatever list of videos and references I'll look over to get this done right.
Funnily enough it was all on one layer with a low opacity brush, which might be a big sign that it was a mess already lol.

>>6588275

What's wrong with them?

>>6588271
Use masks/clipping for each base color. That way you can paint stuff without messing other stuff next to it.

is this a good gesture?

>>6588300
these are after about a month of practice, what could be improved?

>>6588304
Honestly not bad for only practicing for a month. Still far from perfect, but I'd say what stands out the most is your clothes look extremely flat, and your colors/shading also suck, everything is soft or looks like generic gradients, no proper light direction or shadows, makes everything look either flat or like an inflatable balloon.

How do I become good at drawing, starting from scratch?

I read the sticky, but I'm looking for a retard proof plan for beginners. Something like a workout schedule, but for art.

>>6588325
https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

If anything, you should value this because it was written by a professional comic artist who started drawing when he was 20 years old, and has trained many other artists to become professionals, right out of his studio

>>6588221
Is that the autistic shit from Marc Brunet's 30 day drawing challenge

>>6588330
Yes. I figured it'd be something different after the 250 box ball-busting shit from drawabox

A lot of people said they had "Same-face," So I went back and changed them up. Here's the main twelve, did I do better or worse?

Hadn't drawn in months but I am jumping back into Bridgman (along with Marshall Vandruff's Bridgman Bootcamp). Looking at Bridgman's drawings feels like taking PED's.

I have trouble drawing gangbangs.

I kinda want to know what to best do for future pics.

Any hints?

>>6588365
gmi. see if you can copy through the entire book

Why drawing transparent materials with watercolors must be SO HARD?

>>6588236

Face looks cute, but I am not sure what's going on with her neck to shoulder area though.

>>6588430
digital or trad?

There is some guide somewhere on how to draw crowds?

>>6588460
undefined maybe?, just now I narrowed the neck a little and im now adding more detail to the torso.

>>6588470
It wouldn't be hard with digital.

what if

>>6588507
I think there's an anime with this premise

any thoughts on what I could improve before I commit to this

1 hr sketch i did. i think it overall came out pretty terribly, especially the hair.
advice?

>>6588526
did u do construction

>>6588288
Not really
>>6588379
I want to take this opportunity to point out that /salt/ exists:
>>6566900
Not only are they more receptive to this type of work, they may have more advice for you about your subject matter.
>>6588520
What is supposed to be going on here
>>6588526
My advice is to block everything in before going into detail and frequently check your measurements.

New personal best, shame I couldn't render the top bits because I made the drawing too small
When you work mostly digitally you kind of go into any drawing with the habit of thinking you'll be able to zoom in for finer detail work

>>6588542

Do you like what you see?

finally tried to draw some gesture/figure drawings and did like 4-5. feels good finally putting pencil to paper even if they are all miserable and shit

>>6588590
can't recommend this dude's channel enough
https://www.youtube.com/live/dWYXQ06fKMQ?feature=share
being able to draw along with someone is 1000x better than the 10 minute tutorial videos out there

Anything egregiously wrong with my anatomy or am I free to clean up my lines and then start rendering?

>>6588614
Her right calf and hand are just a tad too small, personally I'd rotate the head counterclockwise a bit and bring it down just a smidge but that part could be excused if you didn't feel like it

>>6588614
hand is too small, index finger is too thin and neck is too long

Done. Is it weird if the more I paint the more I find it easier than drawing? Or I'm just retarded?

do you recognize these men?

>>6588627
drawing is just fucking hard

>>6588631
Counter strike Source

>>6588627
>Is it weird if the more I paint the more I find it easier than drawing?
I've been feeling that as well while learning how to render, I think knowing more about how light interacts with form the easier it is to picture a person or object in a 3D space and the foundation work of drawing becomes second nature. I think it's a sign of really internalizing the fundamentals of drawing and it makes me happy at least so hopefully it does for you as well.

>>6588631
exterior like fish eggs

>>6588586
hey im a prebeg, so my question is how do u start out a drawing like this? you do the line drawing first and then do the rendering right? my friend whos a painter keeps saying don't do line, like he wants me to 'paint' with pencil if that makes sense. just wants shift in values indicating object boundaries. im lost here.

>>6588671
I professor told me the same thing actually, no lines! I was in the bad mindset of trying to block out each individual shadow instead of "painting" out the actual form of the light and shadows. The point of drawing and learning the structure is purely foundational, you use it as a guide for where you need to paint your shadows as the forms shift towards or away from the light. Make sure to do a lot of blending too and do it in layers, you can always add more but taking away is a bit more difficult.
Hopefully that helps

>>6588542
>frequently check your measurements.
NTA, what type of measurements do you guys mean when you say this? Im still drawing shapes and shit but i'd like to know what to actually do when I start doing anything else

>>6588689
make sure the proportions look good

>>6588702
yyyyyeeaaahhhh.....
could i get something... helpful?

I saw a photo of european police wearing chainmail for stabbings and I wanted to draw it

bleh

>>6588730
You're going to be very prepared for Easter

>>6588526
this took you 1 hour? quite a lot for such a simple drawing

>>6588731
Hell yeah
But i only got a couple sphere exercises left so I better get going

>>6588734
i'd do it in 2, hes fine

Do you draw medium length hatch marks with your shoulder? I'm really struggling with hatching accuracy when the hatches are tight and have a contour. using ballpoint pen and it's demoralizing when I'm 3/4 of the way through and one of my lines is off. With my wrist I'm more accurate but the lines come off a bit wobbly and less convincing. With my shoulder it just doesn't seem possible to get tight, consistent marks. It's so hard that I find it hard to believe anyone can do it. Do you guys use wrist, elbow or shoulder for these?

>>6588748
>Do you draw medium length hatch marks with your shoulder?
No, I use my wrist I only use the shoulder for ovals or straight lines. Over two decades of ceaseless masturbation have given me a inhuman wrist resistance you pre /beg/ can only dream about.

im working on a mafia esc character desgin. its obviously not finished yet, but I just wanted to know if the body to leg ratio is proportional.

TLDR: Is this drawing proportional, especially the legs.

Am I having bad posture? Basically, my problem is I hate that my hand gripping the pen covers up the paper while I drawing. It always feels like I'm making marks half blind.

I tried out a screenless tablet and I'm drawing 2x better. It just forces me more to use shoulder movements even on small strokes and my curves are way more sophisticated.

Any good videos for this construction thing?

>>6588945
I like your style, keep it up

>>6588184

>>6588851
This guy is suffering inside. I CAN RELATE.

Took me around hour and a half to trace it. Why does the line suck when I tried for it to be as smooth as possible? It's mostly all the same thickness and when it changes like around the mouth it looks terrible and you can't hide the fact these are just two lines with different thicknesses.

My first drawing for april.

>>6588184

>>6588961
Probably because you focused too much on accuracy of the trace, so you couldn't focus instead on making smooth flowing lines. When tracing people tend to go slow to be as accurate as possible, for nice lines you want to be quick and draw with your shoulder/elbow.

>>6588965
Yes.
>>6588964
Based, keep at it bro.
Any courses you're going to try or you just want to D R A W

>>6588964
The nose is weird. The eyes is little. Overall the whole pose is kind of weird.

>>6588184
Practicing

>>6588968
I was using my elbow and making quick lines and ctrl z-ing the shit out of them until I managed to get a good line that matches. If I focused on accuracy less I would not be able to trace because everything would be off. It's as smooth as it can be. The problem is there is no depth or line variation. It's all the same thickness.

>>6588721
very nice boinboin

>>6588969
Only Keys to Drawing. I don't really have any idea what to learn so I am stuck with one book.
>>6588980
I just look at the image and draw. I still suck at drawing eyes and lips but I'm glad that I am doing progress

>>6588520
What's the context anon?

>>6588992
Keep it up anon. It is a good drawing afterall.

>>6588184
It's still a work in progress but did I fuck up anything major so far?

>>6588992
Keys is good, pay attention to chapter 2-3, it will teach you how to measure and proportion things so you easily avoid mistakes like drawing the nose too high.

>>6588997
I quite like it, but be careful what colors you end up choosing for that gloved/mechanical arm, so it doesn't blend too much with the jacket. Also probably make the smoke in his mouth bigger and a different color/more white, as it currently is, looks more like he has a split lip or a cold sore. The eyes also look a bit funny and derpy, the left one feels like it's looking too much to the left, instead of in the direction of the fist.

>>6588964
Look up the Steve Huston head drawing course on YT

>>6588184
Trying to get my gf to draw more, anything good for the omegabeg? She is unfortunately much like many here - 0 imagination, 0 motivation, 0 ability to stick to a regimen. I "think" I can help with that, things are easier to do with a partner, but for example I know Loomis is off the table, as are most beginner courses unless they routinely prescribe homework for literal simple markmaking and/or drill 3d form into your head. She is like many others and will not accept learning by failing and gets super pissed if the first two lines in a drawing haven't btfo Raphael. I have been making her do drawabox's homework but that sucks ASS to do on a screenless tablet, but at least she does have confident lines now, so there's one step chipped away at. No boxes yet. With this all in mind I had thought to make her do DaB until she was confident enough to tackle some video course with me, something that covers forms again, and just let gains and enjoyment flow from that. The tablet precludes her from literally just going outside to draw from life (Google images will have to suffice) so that's tough. Maybe I can get a PDF of Keys and have it up it as we draw.

>>6589024
About lack of homework, you could just assign that yourself. As for frustration, yeah, do Keys or right side of brain, since they teach how to improve observation and accuracy, and both come with a ton of exercises to do. It's a real confidence booster when your lines start coming out the way you want them because you took the time to analyze the subject and know how to measure and put down the correct lines.

>>6588997
This is /pro/, idk why you’re posting here.

>>6588929
Show bobs and bagina

>>6589029
He wants attention

>>6588997
Yeah, the shoulders.
Very nice rendering though.

>>6588184
starting to practice color too

starting to practice color too

An update of a drawing i did on the last thread (i sure didn't finish it that day lol).

I just corrected some anatomy and made it less sketchy, defining better the cape and the main parts of the suit, and i also got rid of the gargoyle he was standing on, since it was getting too complicated and taking to much attention, so i just put a fun blob thing for him to stand on.

i will probably not paint it 'cause i know i will likely fuck it up, but if i do i will not post here to not start to get annoying for you guys.

>>6588997
Metal arm doesn’t look very metal, rendering is off.
Other than that good job, it’s really good!

How can I make this better, is the posture good, what did I do wrong?<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

First time trying anything from this perspective any crits on it so far? Also any suggestions on how the houses around the clocktower should look?

>>6588288
where is the ref from?

>>6589253
since the clocktower is at that perspective, wouldn't the buildings start to warp around its VP and kind of give you a fisheye effect?

Are there any videos of beginners following along to art books?

>>6589305
I've thought about going in blindly to Keys but that might not be valuable since I'm sure he wants you to get outside and draw from life at some point

>>6589303
:p;

>>6589305
Some books do have companion courses, like Vilppu's, for others just check the author, if they aren't from 50+ years ago, they probably have.

>>6589323
it's fine to do Keys even if you stay in your room, you can substitute most of what it wants with photography or things around your room.

What you guys think?

What screams beginner here?

>>6589568
That you drew every single straw and leaf.

>>6589539
Not good.

>>6589572
How else would I get some sense of detail in the foreground?

>>6589576
Are we supposed to be looking at all the individual leafs and straws, or are we supposed to be looking at the view.

>>6589579
At the view but if you look at the foreground you should be able to see some individual stuff right?

>>6589582
Screaming beginner.

>>6589583
Aargh!

how am i supposed to sit? Should i draw on an incline? put it on an easel? angle in in my lap?

I keep saying I'm gonna 'just draw bro' but then my spine starts to hurt.

>>6589588
But gaming and bench watching anime for 14 hours a day is no problem.

why is this so hard i can do all the other exercises already

>>6588929
Need sexo soon now give sexo

>>6588929
your literally trans. lmao

>>6589029
that is definetly NOT /pro/. More like high /int/. he needs to ork on his construction and hands. He obviously mastered coloring/rendering before anatomy.

>>6589588
master secret: shit a diaper and squish it before you draw. this technique goes back to the master himself, Raphael, who wore a crude cloth diaper while painting the Cistine Chapel so he could take fewer breaks. when he wrote about it, he said drawing with a shitty ass was like a superpower. shit your pants and report back.

>>6588542
>Not really
ok how do i make it good

also how can i improve (the arms and legs especially) here?

>>6589539
don't lose the spirit but you really have to do those fundamentals

>>6589655
This , he needs fundies

>>6588280
refreshing to see some actual pixel art on /ic/ and not that MS paint stuff by our local resident schizo

>>6589651
Actually observe your reference and compare to what you have so far. If you look at where the arm begins, ends, and what shape it makes, your floppy noodle is nothing like her actual arm.

>>6589691
the hampton videos i'm following recommend you don't focus on the contours tho<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>6589303
is this your work? Because it's great.

>>6589695
Sure, but you still want your shapes/forms to be the right size and in the right place.

>>6589708
TRUE

Can anyone tell me in which way they are differentiating between the poses here

>>6589746
Commission sheet I'm working on, I made a question in the Stupid Questions thread.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>6589588
>spine
if it's your lower back you may need to strengthen your core muscles.

Third drawing so far. This pose looked cooler in my head somehow. Looking back at an earlier sketch the pose itself was better, but I like the more extreme angle here.

>>6589753
Here's the earlier sketch I mean.

>>6588520

Use ref

>>6589753
>>6589757
you should bring back that right leg, or rather the right foot and bend the knee more. see the difference in the right foot in relation to the horizon line?

>>6588689
Most people use something like a thumbnail or a pencil as a method to measure things while drawing. You can also use a feature like the eye to measure your subject's face. However, you do it, it's important to make frequent measurements to make sure your drawing isn't getting away from you.
>>6589123
>what did I do wrong?
Everything
>>6589253
If the ground is curved, then the buildings should fan outward with the curvature.
>>6589539
Looking rough
>>6589651
>how do i make it good
Practice. Also, study how the human body works.
>how can i improve (the arms and legs
Choose a reference where where the arms and legs aren't cut off.

>>6588184
Any tips on getting stronger / sharper gestures and poses?

I do need to start researching gesture drawing, and advice on resources to use?

any good references for drawing bird/angel wings? or feathers?

>>6589794
i dont have any tips but i think this looks really good :)<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>6589809
If that's your work, it's very very very good. If that's not your work, and you just want your question answered, then I suggest finding artists who draw bird wings really well, and copying them. The forms and basic design of the shapes will be way more visible on an artist's drawing than from a photo you found from the net.

Youtube videos are great too, because you can play and pause and see the form from all angles.

>>6589793
>everything
Really?

>>6589123
>>6589818
not him, but he was a little too harsh. Check your proportions though.

Hello beg, today i "learned" assist tool in krita. It is very handy.

>>6589794
gesture. also i have read that most animators cheat and break body proportions 24/7 to empathize the body movement. For example in kick they would make the kicking leg longer.
>>6589595
to do this you kinda need to feel the form and be reasonably good at perspective and thinking in 3D. It looks trivial but it isnt
>>6589588
>>6589594
your body moves when you game or exercise. but when you get into the zone while drawing you dont move an inch. So your muscles tend to get very stiff. Basically you need to stretch from time to time
>>6589568
all the vegetables have all 1 value. There are no dark and bright spots among leaves. But dont worry, drawing foliage is super bitch task. Notice how you properly drew the trunk of the tree with form and lighting. Now compare it to the leaves: uniform, flat, bland.
>>6589539
i am thinking keys to drawing
>>6589303
i kneel, saved into ref folder
>>6589323
less thinking, more drawing
>>6589123
i see various accuracy errors (most notably the position of head + shoulder on dude in back) but nothing what would break any hard art rule. To make it better just go render it
>>6589101
paint it!
>>6588997
>>6588721
i kneel
>>6588631
lmao nice one boomer gamer. CS1.6 lets go!
>>6588627
painting is more forgiving since you are never trying to do 1 smooth long precise contour with thin HRB but instead you do 999 small short careless strokes with fuzzy brush
>>6588586
booba
>>6588350
way better. Dont be scared to make crazy different ears as well, both people and cows have omega different shapes of them. And ofc horns can be in any shape and even break symmetry
>>6588325
keys to drawing. goodspeed frogposter, the next pepe you post better be hand drawn by you

>>6589818
In terms of form, proportion, composition, construction, pose, and gesture, it's a bad drawing.

>>6589829
Pawelll-san, have you tried inventing your own environments in perspective? It's an essential exercise

>>6589595
based Vilppu studyer. That chapter has the most challenging jump in skill, imo. I suggest doing the precious chapters without any 'sketching'. Draw the beans and boxes right away, directly, with no under-drawing. It forces your visualization skill to develop. Then, you can visualize the box and bean shape together

Drawing Dominia at the moment.

Okay, so i've been trying to draw an anime girl from imagination. Even though the construction seems fine, once I add the details everything looks wrong. Help?

>>6589697
Thanks m8, yup, it’s about an hour study from a picture from young Frankenstein. My ig is in the social media thread if you want to check out the process video.

>>6588929
sauce

I did this<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

oh

>>6589923
You need to do more figure drawing and anatomy

>>6589989
>>6589992
Cute!!!

i did this

>>6590071
amazing, lovely, gorgeous, scrumptious, succulent.

So how do I pull off a double penetration pose where the woman is sitting up?

I am having some issues with this pic.

>>6590079
You’re having trouble because you don’t have the skill for it. You get the skill by doing figure drawing and master studies. I haven’t seen you even try to study yet, so it’s hard to know what to say to you. I normally don’t like it when people ignore advice given to them in good faith, but it’s hard to not pity you

>>6590084

I have a tough time putting time in to draw figure studies. I have tried before and it comes out half-assed.

>>6590090
>I have tried before and it comes out half-assed.
That's the same for EVERYONE you fookin dummy. You ALREADY suck. The stuff you post are already "half assed" stop making stupid excuses and do yourself a favor and practice.

Start with 30 minutes a day and work from there.

>>6589122
Yep, still working on it though it isn't supposed to be metal, it's insect carapace.

>>6589002
>>6589065
Thanks for the critiques anons, really appreciate it.

>>6589029
I was told I was int, anon.

>>6588184

Another draw, i forgot the boobs

>>6588526
Don't draw the nose so detailled
Focus on the main shape
Also, soul!

HOW AM I SO BAD AT DRAWING?? HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?

>>6590079
She always lool like a filthy feminist. Fucking nympho.

>>6589833
damn alright, thank you
I was kind of proud of it because it looked fluid

>>6589588
>my spine starts to hurt.
Do yoga/lower back stretches to sooth the pain.
Make sure you walk regularly

I'm so tempted to continue doing DaB on a tablet instead of on paper with a fineliner.
How much will this hold me back?

>>6590191
At least 5,23

>>6590192
wdym by 5,23?
Lesson 5?

>>6590197
percent

>>6590191
a fuck ton. that course is designed in such a way so as to train you to draw accurately on paper. he doesn't say it and the dude needs to refine his approach to teaching, but the homework is grounded in a grind that will force you to intuitively discover 3D see through thinking and blocking in. the ghosting method is just blocking in, but mentally. watch guys like Peter Han or Kim Jung Gi do a piece, the little dots they place almost randomly are left and right limits for example, to help maintain the accuracy. for drawabox, on tablet there is no pressure to perform. you can't ghost as well, usually you can't shoulder draw as well (i do both and indeed on paper, easy to shoulder draw, on my wacom it's all elbow but it works fine), plus you have a ctrl+z which despite what you might say, will absolutely get used.

break down the fundies that DaB wants to teach you, extract them, and just do them independent of the prescribed course, because nothing is going to translate "directly" to digital and much of it in fact translates only to someone sitting and drawing iteratively on paper. so, practice the things like perspective and 3d drawing, maybe a little bit of construction, but try and find a digital oriented teacher. maybe get some digifundies and steal the RinoTuna course floating around the other thread.

TLDR Drawabox good for paper not so good for digital

R8

>>6590223
thethumbnaillookedbetter/10

>>6590327
wololo

>>6588184
Peter Han vs Charles Hu for dynamic sketching?

>>6590218
That was very informative thank you. I was considering sniping Rino Tuna courses anyway but I'm currently going through the RadioRunner guide and I'm trying to stick as much as possible to what his structure.

ms paint mouse doodles

>>6589539
bad, looks like you have not been using a digital drawing tablet for too long
but I support you 100%.

>>6590351
looks good for some reason but maybe get a tablet :))))

>>6590327

>>6590354
I got one, I just doodle while watching YT videos

I'm a /beg/inner who's learning the ropes of animation. What do you think of animation puppets? Also how do you use them in krita (if you can even use them at all).

>>6588526
Figured it take a shot at drawing this myself. Avoid drawing individual lines for strands of hair. I suck at drawing hair and am lazy but it kind of serves my point, I just blocked out the shape of the hair and vaguely indicated the shapes of the highlights and it does well enough to show what the hair is doing in the image. The Sinix Anatomy Quick Tips video on hair might give you a decent idea of what I'm talking about here.

Secondly I recommend choosing better reference as a beginner. The image you're working from, while cool, the lighting is a bit soft and a lot of the forms around the nose are getting lost I feel like. Working from images with a stronger lighting scheme makes drawing much easier, and in my opinion makes it a bit easier to make gains from studies.

Maybe shes just gurning tf out but her jaw is off centre to the rest of her face, and the proportions for the features are pretty far off. I find this becomes a lot easier with just mileage mainly.

Her nose also looks like a chode, I recommend Prokos videos to learn a bit more about the actual forms of the features and whatnot.

Solid effort though anon, keep at it!

A friend of mine's OC (foreground) and mine (background) just hanging out in the cold.

Something Kim Jung Gi once said as he was drawing - "I wish others could see the lines I see" as an explanation for how he laid out complicated figures freehand without apparent preparation or guides. In reality, he had enough experience that he mentally overlaid his own personal waypoints and guides as he drew.

This is what is tough for people to learn, but it has to be done. All the process techniques repeated in art - circles, blocks, measurement tics, vanishing points, scales... these things often don't work well for beginners at first because unfortunately, they're not actually generic and mechanistic steps to follow. They're concepts. As you learn, you will intuitively create your own version of these concepts. The circle with line drawn around it will come to be part of a specific strategy you develop for building a head. Your own measuring tics will become a habit, rather than simply and rigidly following a generic system or guide.

I feel a lot of stress from learning to draw goes away once a person understands this. It's discouraging to try following a system precisely yet not see what you expect to be the results.

>>6590644
Robert Beverly Hale said that the "first great creative act" of drawing was to invent your own mass conception, aka basic forms. Everyone has their own idiomatic patterns to the way they construct yup yup

>>6588184
Thoughts?

>>6590660

This hobby is driving me insane.

>>6590660
I like it

>>6590660
Baki vibes.

I did all the drawabox stuff and while I can say I understand "how" things rotate I can't say that I do it when I try

>>6590660
Looks like a Fighting Game character. What's the story behind this character, what name would you give to him?

>>6590724
Based
Now try circles

An update on my pic of Dominia.

>>6590728
It’s just a picture of the reference lol

>>6589992
Nice and hot. Try to keep these overall shapes, and silhouette, are really apealing.

anyone got medsmap?

>>6590740
I know. These are ideas to reach outside of the limits. He could try to draw some iterations from this original drawing. Copying references is good. But if you can go further than that, that's even better.

give me a drawing book to read or a video to watch immediately. um, If that's ok with you, of course.

>>6590750
Get the Otomo books that are the cels for Akira and redraw the scenes in your sketchbook until you can flip through the entire film

What is loomis talking about when he talks about the "three divisions of the face"? Is he talking about the Brown, nose and chin "lines"?

>>6590757
meant brow not brown

>>6590757
ye.

>>6590766
Or well it's not the actual lines, it's the 3 equal parts in between the lines, from hair line to brow, from brow to bottom of nose, and from bottom of nose to the chin .

>>6590775
Yeah I reread a page and realize thats what he was talking about

100 y.o. ass.

I need some real life materials because Norling's Page 60 diagram with the paper and line and stuff filtered me like nobody's business. I'm right at that level of frustration and determination that precedes the "aha" moment but damn I need some brain wrinkles to form up. Ok so the square edges of a paper represents your cone of vision I think? Then you draw a line over the paper to represent an eye level and associated VPs? And as the paper, or you (and your cone), rotates, so too will the perspective at which you view the object in relation to the unmoving eyeline (because you're not growing or shrinking, I guess). Does this make sense? I am misunderstanding it, but it isn't the information's fault.

>>6590788
I need to do this irl I think. I guess I kind of get some part of it, basically that perspective shifts as the points collapse, but previously he was like "make sure the points are as far away as possible," implying to keep perspective like the equidistant box right?

>>6589762
Thanks. Should have gone for this from the start.
Also, I want to start coloring my drawings, adding shadows etc. Can anyone recommend me some resources that deal with those topics?

>>6590788
I need to do this irl I think. I guess I kind of get some part of it, basically that perspective shifts as the points collapse, but previously he was like "make sure the points are as far away as possible," implying to keep perspective like the equidistant box right?

>>6590808

Is that Medabots?

Nice.

>>6590744
yeah, me

>>6590809
I do not understand what you're trying to show with the stuff on the left.

>>6590829
I really don't understand the "exercise" either. It is a chapter within "Perspective Made Easy," and the thing is supposed to be a diagram that represents what is happening when you shift perspective I guess? Here's the corresponding page.

>>6590836
And the diagram from 59 he mentioned. I feel like I understand what he's getting at but he's using a totally new vocabulary and demonstration and I stop grokking it when I look at it this way.

>>6590338

>>6590338

>>6589793
you really aren't even remotely helpful and your explanations are retarded

>i like dorohedoro
>i badly replicate dorohedoro
lets go. lets do this. 1000 more times baby

>>6590921
gmi gmi gmi!

>>6590750
https://www1.thepiratebay3.to/torrent/57432234/Drawing_Faces_Learn_How_to_Draw_Facial_Expressions_Detailed_F

Holy fook I’ve neglected drawing fett so much, it took me longer to draw that one shoe than everything else put together

>>6590952
Anon this is really good, how did you learn to do that?

>>6590926
newfag here. what does this mean?

>>6590955
Thank you anon, i ve just been grinding after picking up the basics of perspective and body construction (hamptons anatomy book is great for this)

4th and final paint study for now. I'm done. now I'm gonna take a time off and paint some robots.

>>6590975
Very decent

This is a question / semi vent

Question wise, is this too rushed? I can't tell if I need to put more time into like the transitions from where he makes contact with the ground, then gets up, then runs etc. Also, does it feel too jittery for you all as well? Any tips?

It feels like just adding frames isn't the solution here, I love animation that is lower on frame count, 2's, 3's that can make large fast movements with very little frames. But the only way I can get a sembelence of nice movement is a mix of 1's and 2's


And for the vent I guess, I don't know why but animation is making me so angry recently. It takes so fucking long to do. I love it, like I love the fact that its an art form, and that I can get better at it. But sometimes the actual practice of it makes me want to rip my eyes out. But it feels like a part of me, and I don't wanna quit. Is the only way to get rid of this gnawing feeling just 'git gud?'

>>6591013
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smear_frame

how old does this guy look?

Plugged along a bit further into Bridgman Bootcamp by Marshall Vandruff. Tried making my proportions deal based on Spike Spiegel but my reference photo had too much foreshortening so I am unhappy with how it came out and will likely try again tomorrow with a different reference.

>>6591051
early 20s

>>6591052
Reference.

>>6590962
gmi = Going to make it (You're on your way to great things - compliment)
ngmi = not going to make it (sub-human perma-beg loser i.e. it's over - an insult/harsh critique)

>>6591051
25-28

Trying different body types. Ribs are hard

>>6590823
fag

>>6591088
:]

>>6590910
KEK

I made a sketch, character background and everything, on a single layer but now IDK how to proceed
It's complex because there's objects in the foreground and in the background and i dont know on what to prioritize first
Are there any process videos or tutorials about linearting and coloring a piece?

>>6591138
he laughed it off, it's fucking gone

I need to relearn line art again

>>6590660
>DEAD ISLAM
What did he mean by this?

I drew this today, /beg/

>>6591201
Unironically talented and gmi. Just gotta brush up on your fundamentals, and you'll be a superstar!

I am having a tough time with drawing Elly's arms in the right portion of the pic. She is supposed to be held up by her wrists as she lurches forward.

Any help?

>>6591242
Porn artists literally just trace porn scenes dude, just do that. There is a reason master studies are women just like, standing, and not in a 30 person gangbang.

trying to go for a 2000s and early 2010s anime art style. any feedback is appreciated.

Raaaate. Raaaaaate

>>6591361
Megumin's boobs should be smaller, and her hat bigger.

reminder to study ugly people to get a better understanding of shape design and form

some raiden booba

>>6591430

thanks, I noticed after too

>>6591353
this is so cuuute! got a blog? I want to support

>>6589989
>>6589992
blog?

I don't ever really render so here's some 5 value practice

>>6591509
draw bigger and don't press so hard with the pencil

>>6591514
Okay

Feel like the arms are turbo fucked and I cant draw faces for shit.

>>6591361
Why the low res? Trying to emulate the times back when bandwidth was measured in Kbs?
Picture is cute, though.

>>6591592
if you're learning loomis, don't fall into the trap of thinking every face has to be constructed the same way, with the circle in the middle and all those lines and planes; use the specific elements that help guide you in constructing; if it's a middle line or just establishing where the eyes go

i also recommend studying individual features for a bit, learn the shapes of the eye, the nose, the mouth; work on those a bit, then find some references online and try to replicate it

a problem with faces is that they're very much focused around shape and shading to display form, and the very mechanical constructed methods make that quite tricky and overwhelming when you're starting out, so also look at how artists you like design features once you have an understanding, because stylisation helps work around that more mechanical feel

>>6591601
I will try. What a pain in the ass just to portray a face.

some random figure drawing warmup

any good resource for drawing boobies?

>>6591598

I wasn't sure if there was a max resolution people perfered on here but here's the less shitty resolution version.

>>6591648
Anneris
Ava Addams
Hitomi Tanaka
Maseratti XXX
Demora Avarice
Leanne Cow
Rachel Aldana
Tessa Fowler

>>6590814
Yeah it is.

>>6590921
>i like dorohedoro
Based.
>i badly replicate dorohedoro
I like it.

>>6591169
zased royce reporting in

1/2

2/2

>>6591748
>>6591750
You should draw your cute feet too next time.

>>6591428
10
love it, sharp looking ink

>>6590143
cute boy

>>6588184
It's the thing pressing against the skin at the end of the ribcage the serratus digitation or the ribs?

What differentiates a /beg/ from an /int/ and /int/ to /pro/? what should be a "milestone" to know where your or someone else's skill level is?

did twitters icon change to a doge for anyone else too? is it an april fools joke or what

long crab

>>6591753
So my drawn is good or bad

>>6591804
beg >>6591748
int >>6591773
pro >>6591815

>>6591648
Your favorite hentai artists

>>6591818
It's allright, beginner stuff
Did you have fun?

>>6591848
It was relaxing

>>6591626
take my advice here too >>6591431; it'll really help you understand the planes of the face and how different shapes create it, meaning you're adding to a visual library on how to create characters

>>6591883
Amigo, I can barely draw a smiley face. Supermodel or acid burn victims come out just as bad.

>>6591888
that's why drawing uglies helps, they have more exaggerated features to learn from

>>6591713
Just out of curiosity, what does "zased" mean?

>>6591903
just a mispelling of based that caught on. I think based off of this gif.

>>6591661
>>6591837
i was thinking more about tutorials/guides than references, i think i didnt write that correctly desu...

>>6591708
>>6590926
sheer power coursing through my veins rn

how is it possible that ive been drawing every day for 2 months and yet feel like i am getting worse?
i cant even draw a fucking circle and all my lines are crooked.

>>6591978
That should be impossible unless you are drawing to the point of fucking up your wrist and are drawing in pain.

>>6591978

Practice with purpose and thought, don't just grind mindlessly expecting to get better. Would you improve at playing the piano if all you did was sit for eight hours banging the keys over and over?

Most of drawabox is mind-numbing dipshittery, but a lot of the practice exercises are genuinely good for fresh beginners. Do shit like this, rest your arm if it starts getting sore, and reevaluate your grip occasionally to see if holding the pen differently feels more natural.

https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/superimposedlines

Alternatively, kill yourself

>>6591978
You don't just get better at drawing unless you're 1) talented 2) actively analyzing your mistakes and trying to improve. Post high res of some of your crooked lines, and describe the motion you're using (how fast, what muscle used to draw, what direction) so we can get an idea of why they're crooked.

>>6591904
This
>>6591903
:)

>>6591978
pyw, even if it's just stick figure sketches
there's no way to reliably answer your question without seeing your work
you could be:
>improving but unable to see your own improvement
>improving your perception faster than your skill, thus your work looks like it's getting worse to you
>not improving because you're not analyzing your mistakes
>not improving because you're not drawing as much as you think you are
>not improving because all you draw is anime girls without reference
or something else entirely

>>6592012
>>6591904
Rolls off the tounge well.

Can someone help me here? This *is* meant to be stylized somewhat, but something about the face doesn't feel right. I'm just trying to get a better feel for it before I start trying to paint.

>>6592032
In order to stylize, you need to know what you are stylizing in the first place. Without strong fundamentals on how to draw heads or a reference, it's always going to come out looking like botched plastic surgery.

>>6592044
I've been trying to work from a couple of reference images, but come to think of it... I didn't do any construction, I just started drawing... which I guess was retarded

>>6592090
Very heavy slampig vibe. Looks like the kind of girl who will lick the puke off your dick and thank you for it.

If I know my art sucks is it worth finishing the piece?

>>6591967
You could copy those, i mean, figure drawing

Just updated my pic and was hoping it is coming out nicely.

>>6592018
holy shit socials?

>>6592122
That look great

>>6592141

Thanks.
I have been working hard on this and fixing a lot of issues to get this right.

>>6592032
>>6592044
>>6592062
Is this any better?

Colors feels really off to me, what did I do wrong?
(beside over-saturating rosy parts)

Hello beg, pick your main!

>>6592197
not enough values on her skin. your water color set has black for a reason anon! Also that shape of boobs is probably realistic but kinda anti-coomer
>>6592117
depends on if you will learn something from it or not. Polishing turd for whole day wont teach you anything but perhaps you can make experiment on it and test some new stuff you havent tried yet. Then its worth it
>>6591804
begs struggle to draw what they see, int struggle to draw what they dont see and pros dont struggle, they just draw whatever whenever however and it just looks good
>>6591438
i kneel
>>6591428
it took me a minute to understand what i am looking at. this could outright be in some weird manga comic as smaller panel. nice
>>6591353
this stuff is how you get 10k followers on twitter
>>6591201
cool but go draw naked people to learn more forms and anatomy. clothes hide everything so you dont learn much
>>6590975
very nice, the warm colors its so nice
>>6590809
>>6590836
you are overthinking it. he is just telling you that vanishing points are always very far away and even if you rotate the cube that 1 VP is closing to middle of your field of vision the next one is running away while still stuck on eye level
>>6590660
>>6590452
art
>>6590223
the background trees are better than your main tree. mostly leaves are the problem. they are too uniform and pattern doesnt change at all. Introduce some black areas and change the pattern so it is more like tree leaves like

Why does every drawing I do with construction terrible compared to just eyeing it and mentally constructing it?

>>6592252
>pros dont struggle, they just draw whatever whenever however and it just looks good
Don't lie to rhe newbie, man...

We gonna get a new thread yet?

New thread for you all:

>>6592403

>>6592309
the fuck would I know if you don't PYW. try blurring your construction before final line.

>>6592252
>pros dont struggle, they just draw whatever whenever however and it just looks good
Unless it's a kangaroo

>>6592191
Still looks odd in places, but much better.

>>6592625
proko and pros are different