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Okay, I've learnt drawing. Now how do I paint?

>> No.6580926

>>6580923
Trad or digital?

>> No.6580929

>>6580926
digital

>> No.6580936

>>6580923
you draw shapes with color

>> No.6580939

>>6580923
I can't stand the way jap coomer artists use red with their skin tones, it's just jarring and gross.

>> No.6580944
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6580944

>>6580923
Easy. First you make the drawing then you make the painting.

>> No.6580948

>>6580923
How to color your drawings:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A218Xy42_Ps
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zkh8KV2vbQ
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8PXTwbcJ1I
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Wqwzqsq7E
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvng0oPkNy4
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MndJKaMQACY

>> No.6580956

>>6580923
mignon has a book for rendering like that, has demo videos too

>> No.6580957

>>6580948
Looks terrible, desu. thanks for your effort post though, anon

>> No.6580976

>>6580939
it's used for warmth. you're just a sperg

>> No.6580981
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6580981

>>6580923

find your own method. for me i just block out color and blur that shit. if i want superb details then might need to carefully refine when blurring,more color picking in value,highlight. i just done this in 3 mins.

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6580982

If you have to ask, you haven't learned how to draw.

>>6580939
I can't stand how brown you are, I'm not even light-haired and I can look at my arm right now and see red everywhere.

>> No.6580990

>>6580982
then do you have any recommendations on how to shade figures from imagination?

>>6580981
you make it look so easy!

>> No.6580991
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6580991

>>6580923
>anime tummy
would lick

>> No.6580992

>>6580923

If you've learned drawing then you already know how to go to the next step. The fact that you need to ask mean you haven't learn shit.

>> No.6580994

>>6580992
how do I learn to draw

>> No.6580995

>>6580923
UUUUOOOOOOHHHHH

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6581003

>>6580923
>how to paint skin
https://exhentai.org/g/2303366/9aa0371c87
>how to pain clothes
https://exhentai.org/g/2087067/f939cd20ba

>> No.6581012

>>6580956
>>6581003
sincerely, thank you <3

>> No.6581057

>>6580923
>>6580929
med's map

>> No.6581060

>>6581003
fuck, do you have the e-hentai links to those? I don't have sadpanda on this computer

>> No.6581067

>>6581057
お世話になりました!

>> No.6581074

>>6580976
No its used by japanese hack coomer artists to convey some kind of blushing effect or rawness. But yes it is my sperg opinion that it looks gross and unnecessary.

>> No.6581080

>>6581060
bro just replace the x with a -

>> No.6581081

>>6581080
Wow, I'm stupid, for some reason I assumed that wouldn't work. Thanks anon!

>> No.6581210

>>6580923
Why does it make it extra sexy for the belly button to be so high up?

I want to fill the space below it with my cum

>> No.6581217

use ai

>> No.6581252

>>6580944
who's the artist

>> No.6582557

>>6581210
probably to make the character look younger. Only the old have sagging bellies

>> No.6583727

>>6580982
>1 chance at life
>be brown

>> No.6583843

>>6580923
shitload of practice shitload of rubbing the digital pencil on the tablet

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6583907

>>6580981
Please help me anon, what am I doing wrong

>> No.6583927

>>6583907
lack of form.
colors don't exist in a void, remember that shadows need to keep following the form. otherwise you get weird concaves happening like that tummy.

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6583968

>>6583927
I am moderately confident in my understanding of form, though I do see what you mean here.
I guess I don't understand how to properly depict form while painting

Another thing that concerns me is that whenever I try to blend things they just look like a blurry mess, but in yours it all looks deliberate

>> No.6583995

>>6581003
english version

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6584019

>>6583995
https://youtu.be/Vv234kZdBgs

>> No.6584066

>>6583968
I wasn't that anon, just poitning it out.
The big thing with shading is getting the blending right so it feels like it follows the form.

But as for your forms in that picture, the belly extends outward not inward, parts of it will be concave, but as an overall the stomach part extends outward, light should wrap around past the mid point.

Also while that anon did blur things, hard lines are a good thing and even his has lines that are less blended (though still blurred) that give a harder indication of forms with darker shadows as opposed to everything being a messy blend.

I'd show you an example but I'll be honest, i fucking suck at coloring too. i just see similar mistakes I've made.

>> No.6584071

>>6583907
Get your shapes right first, retard. Don't half ass it just to "blend" it later.

>> No.6584092

>>6584066
>The big thing with shading is getting the blending right so it feels like it follows the form.
This makes sense to me in theory, but I don't understand the actual mechanics of doing this. Like when I touch the blur/smudge/whatever tool, the blending just goes everywhere and I have no control over it

>the belly extends outward not inward
You're right; when I did the lines there I had the concavity created by the bellybutton in mind, but I wasn't fully paying attention and accidentally went crazy with it

>i just see similar mistakes I've made
Thanks for your help anyway anon, I appreciate it

>> No.6584255 [DELETED] 

>>6581252
https://twitter.com/jwakkawa?lang=en

>> No.6584266

>>6581252
https://twitter.com/jwakkawa

>> No.6584294

>>6583968
I have similar problem too anon, i can describe form with ease with cross contour line but i struggle describing it with value and edge. People keep telling to understand the form but i did, i just dont know how to do it with value

>> No.6584376

>>6584294
Value is interesting. It's basically an extensive cross contour exercise, in it of itself. Each plane has a different value. You need to describe each plane, each facet, as if it were a complex jewel. There is no brick left unturned, as you crawl over the form. Each square inch has to fit in perfectly with the totality of the form. The more you paint, the more you see...

There's no way you can achieve that level of precision with cross-contours lines. And with cross-contours, there's no way you know whether you're doing it correctly or now

>> No.6584425

>>6584266
years and years of drawing, never improving. to make the blandest shit ever. you are the kind of artist that will get replaced by ai. and you deserve those full 833 followers lol...

>> No.6584505

>>6582557
Did you just call me a pedo? Fuck you. I know what i like.

>> No.6584550

>>6583727
He was French.

>> No.6584551

>>6583968
Practice from live references.
or copy 3d models (copy, not trace). Eventually you’ll just acquire a subconscious understanding of how to do it, especially since you already have some underlying fundamentals

>> No.6584928

>>6584425
you sound like you need a nap.

>> No.6585023

>>6581080
FUCK
WAS IT THAT EASY
You have changed my life 10x more than any drawing tutorial

>> No.6585131

>>6580948
Fuck off, Marc!!!

>> No.6586673
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6586673

>>6580982
That quote doesn't make sense

>> No.6586771

>>6586673
Not if you haven't tried both.

>> No.6588115
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6588115

>tfw you've reached the point where painting is actually really fucking fun

>> No.6588118

>>6588115
digital painting*

>> No.6588135

>>6588115
Honestly I've always considered painting more fun than drawing since you get to work with color quickly.

>> No.6588156

>>6586673
try thinking abstractly for once. in other words: ngmi

>> No.6588165

>>6588115
>>6588135
Plz tell me how you got there. What books did you study and find the most helpful?

>> No.6588233

>>6588165
Am this anon >>6588115. The last art book I read was one of the flagship Loomis releases cause I kept getting fucked over by heads a couple of years ago. Otherwise, I'm not sure how much I'd be able to help:
>did figure, form, grayscale value studies
>even on "proper" work with a clothed figure, I made sure to first render it nude for study
>implemented some retarded challenge runs where I limited myself to using a hard-edged round brush and nothing else, using smaller sizes as needed to make values fade — didn't allow myself to undo anything at all, instead trying to practice placing values as well as I could
>using normal brushes for colour paintings now feels easier in comparison
I'm nowhere near the level I wanna be at, but specifically getting a better understanding of form and then values made things click much more pleasingly, turning it more fun. My first ever attempt at painting was fucking terrible — also felt terrible cause I didn't know fundies enough

>> No.6588237

>>6588233

Good for you anon. No shame in trying as long as you are determined to learn from the experience.

>> No.6588245

>>6588233
When you rendered figures, did you do the "core shadow, halftone, and reflected light" stuff, or did you just try to copy the shapes you saw?

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6588254

>>6588237
We can FUCKING do it, anon, it's ours for the taking

>>6588245
I initially used the shape strat, which I combined with further knowledge of light physics and shit when I went on. Light physics still confuse me, though, I definitely need to work on knowing where to place light bounces according to form. I used pic rel recently for one of my quicker studies and her torso was screwing me over due to the ambient occlusion