/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

every day i keep finding new artists whose style i want to learn from.. how am i supposed to pick just one?

>>6578897
You aren't the more the better. Mix and match and form your own style.

if you know japanese or at least n2 lvl, this book is the holy grail
https://exhentai.org/g/2495600/b681ceb018/

is copying useful if i want to create my own style and not copy someones, for example like P&S style, is pretty unique compared to the usual anime style same with popstar epic style.

>>6579195
>is copying useful if i want to create my own style and not copy someones
WAT

>>6578918
I'm an N5let... I can't get good at art and Japanese at the same time there's not enough hours in the day. 助けてくれ

>>6579250
4-5 drawing
4-5 learning japanese
aka stop playing videogames,youtube,4ch, etc

>>6579195
Copying, at least when experienced artists do it, is not done for the sake of being a copy of somebody else, but so you can pick out and internalize the ingredients of the artist's style you're studying. The goal is to be able to either a) use parts of their style in your work directly or b) be able to riff on their stylistic recipe and figure out your own new synthesis.

For example, P&S nor Popstar Epic are particularly original at their core. The core ingredients of their styles can be found elsewhere but in different quantities and arrangements. The creators were inspired, and then played around with those bits of inspiration to create what they have at the end. Inspiration ---> Transformation and remixing.

Copy so that you can acquire basic ingredients to play around with, and then make your own art to play around with the ingredients you've exposed yourself to.

>>6579195
bro you cant even draw something unoriginal worry about that later

>>6579298
>and then make your own art to play around with the ingredients you've exposed yourself to
But what if what i want to know what is the work behing on how do i make a style work, for example in P&S the corners on the body aren't always a sharp edge, how do i learn the criteria that create that, not the work that can be copied. how do i learn to make a og style make sense, i don't want to incorporate a style, i want to create something new with different criteria on proportions, lineart, stylization etc...

>>6579442
literally just draw stop overthinking this shit

scrapped

In between work breaks sketch

Don't want to ask this in /dtg/ since there's a schizo shill in it, but what drawing tablets did you guys use? I really want to get into display tablets, should I go for 13 inch xp-pen or huion?

Being doing some studies but I think I fuck up.

>>6579597
Ref, Image.

can someone please explain to me the science of how copying images with these lines can improve my ability to draw?
the only thing i can think of is that maybe it can train you to look properly but i feel like these guide lines are too big of a crutch and will just hinder your development.

>>6579620
it trains your observation skill

>>6579620
copying image help improve your observation to see what went wrong and what's off which is quite essential skill to studying on something. it will help when you learning to do something harder like studying cloth,fold.

however copying is only for /beg/ once you think you start to get a grip of able to copying or observing correctly then just start draw what you want or what you want to learn. you want to draw boobs? start learning fundamental and using reference without copying

>>6579597
For the most part it's good, but you messed up her arm closest to us. In the ref she's raising her shoulder, kind of tensing up like people do when they're scared. The top of her shoulder is somewhat in line with her mouth, but in your study her shoulder starts and the chin.

>>6578845
>>6578845
https://magma.com/d/wvaOSS7TQd

we are doing a seeeeeeeeesh

I am trying to pick colors that go well together for this piece. I watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj1FK8n7WgY to get an idea of how to combine colors but I am having difficulty coming up with a background that doesn't clash with the character, where am I going off?

>>6579597
you're trying to show the chin. just hide the chin my man, neck too long but really necks are sometimes elongated in some popular jp artists (by accident)

right foot has little mistake.
left arm could easily be fixed by making it look like more lifted.

>>6579760
beautiful!

>>6579824
Thank you. It is a copy though

>>6578845
What's the verdict, /asg/? :)

Why are you guys still only copying? Learn construction like literally every other pro artist in the world, including the japanese ones.

>>6580031
its over

>>6580102
Fuck off ,westoid.
>>6580031
You are getting there, just copy more anime

>>6580031
You could start by improving your line weight and make her looks less flat as well

>>6580169
>westoid
Anon, I have lurked this thread for years. None of you ever get better. None of you ever improve. You've been spending years and years grinding resources that provide you with no knowledge instead of using resources that the Japanese actually use (and they involve construction, sorry).

Hasn't spinning your wheels for literal years shown you that this is the wrong approach? Don't you want to try something else for your own sakes?

>>6580169
He is not getting anywhere if he only copy anime, he need to do a ton of life drawings, drapery, forms and perspective studies to improve.
Studying/tracing/copying your favorite artists is important but completely dismissing real life studies and fundies is the worst fucking mistake.

>>6580181
ignore that troll, he's been shitting in this thread for months

>>6579620
This type of copy is enhancing your 2D perception.
Construction/anatomy will teach you 3D perception.

You need to switch back and forth between both when you draw.

>>6580169
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.

>>6580121
What is over?

>>6580169
>You are getting there, just copy more anime
Gotcha

>>6580187
Thanks, I'll do my best!

>>6580173
>make her looks less flat as well
How do I make her look less flat with line-art only? I used thinner lines for the facial features, and everything else has the same brush-size. Is that not enough?

Drawing from imagination with no refs

This time I have taken an image from the anime but I drew it from a different angle from imagination. Hands were super iffy. Clean lines tomorrow.

>>6580553
It was this shot. I also forgot the party hat, going to add it tomorrow.

>>6580247
More work on it, working on my coloring using mika's work as ref for shading.
Though, I had to fix the face. I hope I can finish this

>>6580609
Hey, I recognize you from you know where. Well done.

>>6580637

oh shit, you are here too. I just started to post there desu.
Anyway good luck with your piece, are you working on it more?

>>6579572
what's up with the glow around the lines? is that a stroke effect or a brush?

>>6580651
>are you working on it more?
Nah, I'm done with it. Just wanted to make something fast while learning something. I saved a lot of time by just collapsing the shadow layers and the base color and just paint details/corrections on top.

still a WIP but can I have some crit? Still new to rendering so definitely need improvement there but wondering if there's something else I'm missing.

>>6580553
Looks like a man wearing bocchi cosplay, think the face is too angular.

>>6580669
Did you trace over a doll or something? The joints look off. She has no wrists.

>>6580553
Even with baggy clothes, women still have a
form that is curvy and soft. Also, look at your ref, the facial features are closer together so why are you dragging the chin and head that long. She isn't a horse-face anime girl
>>6580679 < they probably said it due to those reasons

>>6580681
nah, this was my ref
looking back at it, I did butcher the wrist on the left

>>6580728
Now I see the disconnect in the body I was feeling. I think the pose would look more natural if you draw the hands facing forward. Since she's not grabbing the edge of something like in the reference, it feels really unnatural for them to be in that position. The torso also could use a little adjusting to fit the pose better. Looking good though, don't get discouraged.

>>6579723
based chu-chu owning spaceoids

I think I'm too lazy for this hobby...

>>6580121
>>6580199

>>6580914
Keep going this looks gut

>>6580747
thanks for the crit, trying to do the pose feels pretty awkward
I'll probably wait a few days to mentally reset how it looks to me and fix

>>6580914
Keep it up , you are doing just fine even if youre lazy

>>6580031
I'm not good with words, so I hope it's ok I drew over it. I'll try to explain what I did.
>Line weight
Generally, the lines in anime art are thin. I made them a bit thicker in the outline and converging lines. I also made the line of the face thicker because I wanted to draw attention to it.
>Face
I don't know if I misunderstood, but in your drawing it seems like the glasses cover the eye line. The eyes are the most important part of the face to show the character's appeal and expression, so I moved the glasses down a bit. I also changed the face shape to have more of a cheek.
Sorry if it's too cutesy or not what you were looking for anon, I hope I could help somehow

Can't tell if the coloring is appealing or if the highlights are unnecessary or inconsistent.

>>6581203
Really cute and sex

>>6580709
Yeah I always have problems with head proportions. Trying to fix all this up today, thanks for the critique.

>>6578845
My drawing didn't make it in the OP
It's over...

>>6581007
What???

>>6581189
Damn your drawing looks amazing!
Well the eyes are meant to stay inside of the glasses, but now I know what you guys mean with "line distribution". Holy shit. Thank you!!

Today I learned a very valuable lesson: line weighting.
Even though I already knew it, I didn't really internalize it until now.
Thank you Anons!!

>>6580031
>>6580199
>How do I make her look less flat with line-art only? I used thinner lines for the facial features, and everything else has the same brush-size. Is that not enough?
Line thickness has noting to do with flatness. What makes an image feel flat or not is depth and volume, which can be communicated regardless of weight (see picrel). You have to train yourself to be able to see 3D shapes on a 2D plane, and draw lines that approach or recede away from the viewer in a way that communicates convincing volume. The ability to do this is the backbone of good lineart. Without it, the drawing will feel unconvincing from the start, and no amount of line weight or coloring or rendering will save it.

>>6581833
redline him, blabbering pseud

>>6581841
Redlining him would require redrawing the entire image which I don't have time for. This is the best way to explain the concept, especially since a redline would end up with him looking at an entirely different image anyway.

>>6581833
>>6581844
Ok thank you :)
Guess I'll grind more volumes and forms then

Tried to make her more feminine now. Colors tomorrow.

>Saitou's channel is still not back
it hurts

>>6580653
It's the water color effect in CSP

>Studing Anime
Literally no point, A.I. has destroyed this style. No matter how good you get, everyone will think you are A.I.

>>6579870
I still like it well done : )

>>6580871
true dat

>>6581833
sauce for top left?

Working on Hina. Feeling more confident after the Marisa last thread, but still feel like I'm going at this too slow.
Went through like three days of not being able to draw.

>>6582374
>I'm going at this too slow.
slow compared to who? Just draw at your own pace and with time you'll get faster

>>6582394
Suppose so. I'm just watching artists I see online to get me a better feel of their workflow and ways they build their drawings and they go pretty quick.
But then again they probably have a lot more experience, so I guess that just ties into the
>with time you'll get faster

Does anyone have Manga Materials Youtube videos that were hidden like a day or so ago? I was about to show a friend a screenshot from one. In particular about how if you're new you shouldn't neglect attempting finished illustrations over zealous practicing. I wonder why she hid some of her videos. Her channel was a lot fuller.

Alright I did Krenz's recommended month of study. I'm getting filtered by his perspective course though... I can't really comprehend it. It's not just the ESL, the images might as well be Chinese to me too. Can someone explain it to me like I'm retarded (once again, I am).

>>6582462
You probably want to watch Marshall Vandruff's perspective course (from the 90s) since it's short and will give you the right mindset.
You can also read Drawabox, since although I definitely don't like the whole thing, the perspective itself is explained fairly well.
Then you should get Krenz better.

>>6581794
always keep perspective in mind
it will help with the sock lines as well
exaggerate the pose more
break the silhouette.

Please tell me your biggest issue or dissapointment with my illustrations.

Be as brutally honest as you can!!!

im stuck, i understand where bones and muscles are placed and how they look like, i can move a basic manequin around easily, and i can copy decently
every time i try drawing without reference it just looks bad
what am i supposed to do?

>>6583039
>what am i supposed to do?
Keep on drawing.

gentlemen, does anybody have some tracing sheets for these kinds of symbols? i have changed programs recently and need to retrain my hand eye coordination

>>6582741
Omg, fuck, it looks so much better. Thanks!!

>>6583052
>>6582741
>exaggerate the pose more
But wait, I though exaggerating is not allowed, since that would break the laws of physics?

>>6582802
soulful and cute

Can I post a character with a little bit of blood dripping from her hands on Instagram or is it against the rules? The character isn't hurt in any way.

Any artists with experience posting soft-core gore on social-media?

Don't shoot. I'm unarmed.

>>6583426
You don't have to reproduce the fucked AI background. Just draw a proper stand based on how the one on the left should continue on.

You guys do copy from Setteis,right?

>>6583591
>Setteis
Literally who?

>>6583603
The dumbest retard on this thread lmao.
It's plural of Settei (as in multiple)

>>6583609
Okay ,didn't know "Settei" was Japanese for Anime concept art

>>6583603
nta
but
http://setteidreams.net/settei/

The rendering never ends

>>6578845
>Zero Escape
Naisu

>>6583627
Uoh

>>6583622
Wow, thanks Anon :DDD

>>6582802
sovl

>>6583045
https://youtu.be/rZnvXBh341I
Check the google drive link

How much brush stabilization do you guys in CSP?

>>6583744
0

>>6583744
I am on ketamine.

>>6583744
4-6
and for lineart 9-12

Colors done. First try to somewhat "paint".

>>6583744
20
>he draws with a mouse

Ok guys, I finally finished it.
What do you think? :)

Not sure if it looks enough like an oppai loli
https://files.catbox.moe/n7c1d7.png

>>6583830
its alright

>>6584018
not reading loli to me. The boobs and hips combined just looks like short stack.

some poses of a certain character
the boob press pose is kinda retarded, I didn't know what to do with the arm

>>6584109
good shit, I don't think the boob press pose is dumb at all. If you don't mind me asking, who're you studying?

Basically finished the linework besides her halo and horns. Using the G-pen really shows my shitty linework, but I guess I have to get better somehow. Think it needs more variation on line thickness, but I gotta go back and check how others do it. Been following Amana.
>>6584109
Very nice. Loving the poses you went for. Face is really neat too. Like super neat from the various angles.

>>6584180
thanks, pic rel is the character, she's mercedes from e7
>>6584190
thanks bro, I'm glad the face caught your interest because I'm not good at faces so I studied some artist styles and now they come out like this when I try to make them on my own. Also, I think your lines are pretty nice.

>>6584026
Thank you :)

>>6584190
I hope you don't mind, but I colored this to see what it'd look like. Often if I use a thin pen to draw, like what I think the pros do, I feel like my art is pretty lifeless, so I never get to the coloring phase. I wanted to see if coloring helps. Not really sure.

And I'm NOT saying I think you're line art is bad, btw.

>>6584340
It looks lifeless because not your rendering is flat as shit but your color choices are horrible. Good rendering can disguise bad lineart. Also, that's hina from blue archive. Look her up to see what a good color scheme is like

>>6584345
Lol fuck off. Go to the beg threads until you learn what color theory is.

i tried g-pen to copying art but it seems the line are too stiff and sharp. i even trace to imitate it but result that it's feel stiff and sharp. do i actually need to care about what pen/brush do i need when doing lineart?

>>6584363
Nice self crab. You should really learn color theory though. It's garbage.

How is this picture I drew

>>6583591
where did you get that?

>>6584587
Artbook thread from a long time ago, no clue where you could find it now. Atleast I can give you the same page.

>>6584587
nta
https://e-hentai.org/g/1152939/7385c9de8c/

>>6584340
>>6584363
This is bait right? Horrible colors is the first thing that came to mind.

When doing settai should I concentrate on one character or as many as possible?

>>6585675
I usually focus on one character at a time to get used to their features, then once I get it I switch to another one. I like to use sheets with multiples angles shots for the heads.
>>6584827 Thanks, I needed this ! It's hard to find good looking old men...

Trying to get into drawing. I am doing daily warm up and gestures with posemaniacs. I won't hide that I am too afraid of failing and drawing something inferior. I told myself to never visit ic again, but here I am. Basically i know all the theory now through and through, but when i don't draw perfect elipse or perfect straight line i get distressed. Like if i was screamed at for failing. I tried some drawings and my head was so cloudy, I couldn't draw anything I wanted to draw. I will practice more construction/form and try to get more accurate. But fuck I feel like there in boulder on my chest because of much i feel i need to compare myself to others.

hot damn this general sucks

>>6586417
I post my bad art publically deliberately to remind myself why I do it and to get over it. I even post it on twitter.

Anyone have any of Hide's drawing collections?
https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2/
https://hide.booth.pm/items/3801875

Can someone explain what's the trick to make the eyes look like they're looking at the camera. I'm 100% sure everybody here has had this issue when they want the eyes to look at the camera instead of in front of them, and I know there's a trick to it. Please someone give me some clues.

>>6587004
WAHAT

>>6587004
Learn how ellipses behave. If someone is looking right at the camera then the ellipse of both the iris and pupil has to be completely open, a perfectly circle in other words. Imagine a coffee cup or a tube, in order to look directly into it, it must be perpendicular to your line of sight and if it is then the opening will be a perfect circle.

someone here recommended this book. im 2 pages in and am unsure if i should continue, pic related.

im having problems coming up with poses, compositions that arent boring, static and already done a million times
is there a book that could help me? do i hav autism

Found this.

>>6587493
Wish you didn't!

>>6583426

>>6584340
I like the shading on the skin you did.
I'm super bad at rendering and just can't really understand it too well. I'm using a low opacity brush too, but I feel like I'm just monkeying around rather than being able to properly do it.
Any good guides?

>>6587582
>>6583426
what's the point of this?

Is it just me or is using a tablet harder to draw the right lines than paper and pencil?

So level 1 would be copying a face that looks straight on you
Level 2 would be a face but a different angle
Do I have to perfect level 2 or go straight into full body stuff?

>found the csp brush my favorite artist uses
>but i dont even paint so i cant even use it
le sigh, one day though...

>>6587515
Why not?

I just had a crazy thought, what if I do my line art AFTER I render???<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>6589010
>Powered by GPT-4chan
Wtf, where is this coming from?

>>6580181
What the fuck is this “fundie” and “construction” shit you just posted?
It looks way too off from the studies I’ve done.

Learning to paint is exhausting, I feel like I'm ngmi

>>6589035
>prokotard
Ah, a clueless NPC outside of brainless copying. Of course.

>>6589041
It’s literally better for them to copy Proko’s life long work to fully and properly understanding the body rather than nip tips on rushed down and questionable anatomy. But what do I know, he works with several of the best teachers in the industry that accurately replicate the human body and people from various means of art fields.

What kind of dumb ass faggot are you? You larp on improvement and how “construction is everything” when you act like a total faggot when people use actually do it the Kangoroo way, and question the studies you’ve given out to people.

>>6589035
there isn't a single generic proportion for everyone, hence why use construction to adjust for what is needed
c'mon brah

>>6589010
you're right
copying color is much more effective than copying lines

>>6589055
and what is the result of this mindless copying??
a bioshock kangaroo
HAHAHAHAHAHHHHHAHAHH

>>6589055
>Replicate
Exactly. If you're dead set on becoming a braindead atelierfag, sure go ahead with whatever that is. But anime and manga is stories drawn from imagination - not passive plaster casts.

>>6589063
Not being a useless nothing like you are. It’s pathetic how much you change your tune so quickly into acting like a scrub lord.
>>6589068
No. They use tons of direct references and rotoscoping to get their work done in time. Especially if they have to do arena battles. Pokémon X and Y specifically focuses a lot more on the environment and how characters interact with it. JoJo is founded all around artist mastery and wouldn’t really be the way it is without that obsession with anatomy and style.

>>6589055
>fully and properly understanding the body
>by copying photos of a roided out bodybuilder
Grow up

Shitty Counter-Arguments: the Thread

>>6589060
The proportions are not the issue with the study.

Does anyone understand this? My japanese is too bad, and I cant figure out how hes grouping these poses.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>6589082
>roids
Lmao

>>6589035
what the fuck is that fugly mannish woman, why the fuck would you want to draw that

the bocchi in the OP feels uncanny as shit

how to draw torsos

>>6589637
Ovals

>>6589642
how many

>>6589637
boxes

>>6589642
>not being a boxchad

>>6589657
>not using both boxes and ovals
Heh

>>6589654
is that easier

>>6589663
Imagine not making circles

>>6589664
yes

>>6589674
thanks for examples

>>6589674
Construction looks all over the place here, what's this method?

>>6589703
>method
ngmi

>>6589703
see vilppu boxes and cylinders lessons

Any which anime feature ryona prominently?
Or just advice how to properly convey it

Hello, I have a question. I was looking for art books and I found different animes that I love. Would it be wrong to use them as a reference to study anatomy? obviously interspersed with specialized anatomy books but it is so as not to saturate myself with only one thing

>>6589217
She’s just a fit older woman that‘s modeling without the annoyance of hair obscuring her body. If you want true ugliness, play steer fighter dix.

amane kanata i did recently, needed a break from long and painful paintings with a sketch

>>6578918
thanks for the share, i need to practice my gestures / dynamism more

>>6589111
related to the balance and twist of the back
arrow 1 -> indicating which leg is supporting the gravity
arrow 2 -> straight: indicates raised side of shoulders
bent: indicates relaxed side of torso (opposite side is compressed)
A -> stable, hips/shoulders not aligned, contrapposto (arrow 2 straight, 1/2 opposite sides)
B -> stable, hips/shoulders aligned, no contrapposto (arrow 2 straight, 1/2 same side)
C -> imbalance causing hips to drop significantly to one side (arrow 2 bent)
-> Ca bent backwards
-> Cb bent forwards
N -> C but even more unstable
左 / 右 -> indicates Left / Right acting as axis leg

>artblock after every 3-4 finished piece
for fuck sake

>>6590186
do automatic drawing
problem solved
https://youtu.be/fVY5gla0FNQ

https://i.imgur.com/xRnCNRk.jpg
>trace and copy
Does that mean you do two drawings, one trace and one copy next to each other?

>>6580669
Edges are too sharp. Center her pupils so they face the camera

>>6590222
plz tell me if you know guys

>>6590222
>one trace and one copy next to each other?
no lol
copy only

I used to be alright, like above beg but not pro but a few days ago I just regressed into beg for no fucking reason
is this a thing?

>>6590222
yeah.
I would only recommend tracing as a beginner level exercise. the ultimate goal should be to be able to pick out proportions, angles, etc. w.o using tracing.
also, i've never heard of anyone doing "memory copies" outside of this thread

>>6590522
well do they work

https://twitter.com/spinel0606/status/1556580458644643840

I decided to stop being a NGMI. Now I will be joining the construct fags.

I am ready to do an epic anime face with my guidelines!

>>6590529
how should I know i've never done it before

>>6590902
congratulations you're well on your way to becoming the next Murata and Kim Jung Gi!

>Start reading some Cape shit and watch a few american cartoons this past weekend
>Art has no gotten more wide and characters more muscular with smaller eyes and larger noses + mouths
>Hard not to draw big square chins and wide necks
I hate how subconsciously impressionable I am.

My study for today, learning his BNW rendering

what does krenz want me to do with the posterize method? does he want me to posterize then copy the image?

been practicing sketching skulls and real human faces for the past week, and i STILL cannot draw a single decent looking anime head.

i have been learning to draw for 2 months now and i feel like i havent even reached the starting line, i cant even copy a drawing because i can literally spend hours just trying to get the right circle

>>6591974
Draw us a human skull anon, you can use reference. no one is asking you to do a perfect circle, use curved lines instead

>>6591972
>posterize method
what?

>>6591974
>practicing sketching skulls
py skulls, so we can help you

>>6591985
https://asgg.notion.site/krenz-pt1-2021-alight-workshop-d4c1b84408594c34942740355125475d
I'm a bit unsure as to what he wants us to do regarding posterized images

>>6591988
Ah
>posterize then copy the image?
yes aka value study

>>6591988
>>6592000
cont.
some demos
https://youtu.be/Vt7WkSOTH_0
https://youtu.be/HK-UKkCl5rA

check his painting course, he talks about 'posterize method"

>>6591987
>>6591980
sketched this one this morning in 20 minutes
ive been trying to force myself to do it every day so i get better

Alright. Gotten good enough to copy Pictures of my waifu with Pen and make very few mistakes / high accuracy. What next? Perspective? Other than Krenz any good side study material? His stuff is really hard for me to understand

It's hard to find artists who draw plain anatomically correct nude bodies I can use as a reference. Anyone got any?

Give me your best tutorials on how to draw the upper body
Please

>>6592111
>practicing sketching skulls and real human faces
>i STILL cannot draw a single decent looking anime head.
>draw skull
>proportions all off
that's the problem
learn to copy

Been studying Uraraka and did a study of another MHA girl for like... a week now. I started at like 1 doodle a day at work and did a bit more, it's out of order most likely, but I think I'm making good progress

any tips? What should I be working on? I know my memory drawings are shtie but I'd never imagine I'd be able to - 15 minutes later - at least draw something that resembles the character even remotely right from my head.

If the girnd is getting boring, how do I keep it up? Most people here say to concentrate on one character at a time, so should I mix it up?

>>6586930
This is the old note
https://exhentai.org/g/1950410/a1d3f3a506/

>>6592149
Try copying from the settei
http://setteidreams.net/settei/boku-no-hero-academia/

>>6592392
that is what I've been doing. I should have mentioned those were my refs,

>>6578845
Alice is probably the most hateable character in any vidya ever. Game did a good job at that.

>>6592149
should actually do more construction

how do i learn to draw booba
mine just look like flat malformed circles

>>6592684
There are like a million tutorials and even more references for you to pick up. Why are you here asking to be spoonfed when you could spend 5 seconds looking it up yourself?

I watched Krenz's videos in the OP and tried to copy a pic
My guidelines i drew left me like... large gaps of information that i couldn't fill in. I'm also new to using a tablet and i found the fineliner brush hard to use.
I probably didn't pick a great reference picture shapewise desu

>>6592929
I redid it with better guidelines and a different brush, for my second attempt i'm pretty happy.
I am finding it difficult to draw smooth lines though, i assume that will come with practice

>>6592149
Don’t fall into the trap or just drawing heads. Try to do some full body shots of her next . Also study Figure Design and invention by Michael H

Anybody trace with a piece of paper placed on the phone on at full brightness?
Any apps to recommend? (To lock the screen from reacting to touch)

Line art practice

Does anyone know where I can find more of Krenz's figures? Or his process of drawing them.

>>6594010
>only non moeshit piece in the entire thread

>>6591189
>Later homo

>>6594824
incredible the rhythm and form this guy has just to paint moeblobs, take notes asg

>>6594824
https://sublilim.weebly.com/krenz.html

>>6594895
Damn thanks bro

Is the Rinotuna course good?

best resource on drawing anime heads?

>>6594952
The anatomy sections are surprisingly hefty and quite good for both beginners and intermediates imo. I'm spending the month just going through that before moving to the character design lessons, but I assume that part's probably gonna be good too. Only problem is not being able to draw while looking at the subs because I don't understand korean so it's a lot of pausing. But in the end i'd argue his books provide pretty much the same lessons so depends which way you learn better from.

>>6594931
Krenz process images (89.15mb)
anonfiles com/x1h5m0j6z8/krenzProcess_zip
alt
files.catbox.moe/ycx4w0.zip
the imgs are the same from the site

I've been trying for the life of me to find this artist? The CSP Assets profile does not have any social media or website links. Does anyone know? I wanna copy the style.
https://profile.clip-studio.com/en-us/profile/j2ouj9i-40

>>6595199
>>6594895
Where are the actual lessons? Aren't there translated videos?

>>6595160
Loomis

Feeling pretty good about about this improvement. I didn’t even realize how much better it was until I put them side by side

>>6595332
>Where are the actual lessons?
OP
>Aren't there translated videos?
NOP
only the ones on op and the gumroad videos

>>6595372
Uhh, sorry really not seeing much of a difference? Which one is newer?

this is not going well...

>>6580031
stronk legs? I don't know what
aha!
stocky legs slightly, that's all other than that you are well on your way

>>6581203
looks appealing to me

>>6595452
>>6595372
You can definitely tell the top is the new one, especially considering how wonky the faces are on the bottom, the left one specifically. The new ones look very nice, I love the eyes.

>>6594952
the coloring one is really good and helped me understand how to use photoshop better but the subtitles are gibberish in some parts

>artworks that used to look fantastic looks mediocre now, every sketch I make that isn't great I throw away
Is this what getting good feels like? I don't like it

>>6595890
is it uploaded for free anywhere? or did you pay? Also, can you still follow along with CSP?

Rinotuna course mega download plz

Does anyone know if there are torrents for any of these courses?
https://coloso.us/event/category-best-drawing

>>6596557
Maybe this one in particular
https://coloso.us/illust_webtoon/illustrator_chyan_us

>>6596560
nevermind I found it

>>6596018
yeah thats what being int feels like 10 years of suffering

>>6591334
you are healing

im really starting to think "just copy anime lol" doesn't work for a beginner artist, at all.

>>6592392
That's what I wanted to ask, is it correct to study based on the settei? More than anything I do it so as not to get bored
(The settei I use are: Katekyo hitman reborn, kill la kill, Lwa and Sword art online)
And I use construction books like
[Xiao Weichun] Human Anatomy For Artists and The Master Guide to Drawing Anime - How to Draw Original Characters from Simple Templates to take simple poses any tips? At the moment I am studying the construction of the face, more than anything, the eyes, since I do not have the same size or the same size, I have attached a sample of my best work, I did it two days ago.

>>6596679
What came to that conclusion?

>>6595735
Thank you!

>>6596111
got it from the video course general here >>6586433

>math
its over

Lineart

>>6597053
good good keep going

How the everliving FUCK do I into hair??? Stuff like this makes my brain fry, I don't understand how a pro can just shit this out of their brain.

>>6597413
pin2d hair tutorial

>>6597425
I thought I had this saved but my past self has failed me, is there a link?

Hey guys I failed but it's okay

>>6597053
Zamn

>>6597437
Cute

>>6597433
pastebin

it's over

>>6597437
green gang power111

>>6596851
i'm gonna out myself as a normie, how do I use that code?

https://youtu.be/uZDVnjpnTIQ

>>6597610
AI is inevitable

>>6597836
Base64
Decode multiple times

perhaps one day i will crack the great esoteric mystery that is constructing anime heads..

>>6578845
Just finished this up. I posted the unfinished one weeks ago and said I’d be back! Still can’t figure out out to hide my marker lines, any marker bros here that have tips for blending?

>>6597917
flat head

>>6597924
Yeah my blender didn’t work as planned and I don’t want to go back over it

>>6597908
Loomis

>>6597929
im talking about the form/construction

>>6597908
learn who to draw a cube, who to draw a sphere inside a cube and study the skull

>>6597943
post your anime loomis heads

>>6597959
I tried to give his face form with colors and blending instead of lines but the blender just washed it out. This was my first illustration of this type I’ve done with a blender

>>6597962
Drawing inside a cube is schizo shit

Would it count as an anime study if you copy and study kemono / anime furry artists like Nagabe instead of western furries?

>>6598048
does it matter just draw/study what you want to draw dude

>>6598049
not him but I do better with a routine to know it works. Just drawing what I want feels like a circle where nothing changes.

>>6598166
yeah but that had nothing to do with what he was asking

>>6598187
You can't just draw what you want when there are a thousand boxes waiting for you.

>>6598049
Aight, thanks for reassuring me. Here's the study.

>>6578845
This thread's OP copypasta/images are always hilarious to me because they're always some of the worst examples of how to copy anime. There are good artists in these threads but so much of the OP is a waste of time.

>>6598222
I find eyes hard. I can never get them to line up.

>>6598222
/asg/ has always been packed full of shitters.

>>6598222
why don't you post the superior methods then

>>6598228
Draw a line across the face and use the lasso tool. If you're using paper and pencil use an eraser. If you're using pen suck it up and try again.
>6598240
Well all I did for >>6598222 was pull up refs like the style guide and a bunch of screenshots of Nonon, then a few poses that I like (real models I found on Pinterest in this case, just some cute poses)

Then I did a figure drawing session while trying my hardest to match the refs. I found a bunch of shorthand that works for me for the specific character and refined the few rules that can be applied across all figure drawing.

You guys need to recognize that not a single artistic project you tackle will have the same rules as the last one. There are fundamentals that transfer across (in the case of this thread they're all just figure drawing), but ultimately different characters are going to need slightly different approaches. A different base shape for the eyes will work for Nonon that won't work for Ryuko, for example. You have to train THAT part of your brain, the part that lets you find those little nuances within the designs in order to crack the code for how to draw them properly. You need to learn this before you can even try applying it to your own characters, in which case it's still gonna take alot of brute force.

Just blindly copying images -will not help you- and I'm telling you this from alot more experience than most of you have combined. When you do a study like that, you need to knuckle the fuck down and figure out what you're trying to learn from it before you even start, then you need to be willing to fail and fail EARLY so you can scrap your work and start over without losing 10 hours of effort on a piece that wasn't gonna get you anything to begin with.

>>6598520
>pic
wat

>>6598523
>Wall of text
>/beg/ tier drawing
It's a pseud. Ignore him.

>>6598523
Wrong image. I was in my schizo time during that. I wanted to post something regarding figure drawing since it's ultimately the most important thing this thread is gonna need to pay attention to.

nodraw general

>>6597462
These are ok but it doesn't teach how to actually render hair

>>6598593
https://youtu.be/oa8lkr5_nM8

>>6596560
>>6596567
Where did you find it??
I only got a scam site

>>6598531
the patella does not move that way since the tendon does not stretch, it must rest on the base of the femur when the leg bends

>>6578845
Hey, is there anything I can improve here? Thanks!

some head studies

>>6580031
Reminds me of a family guy character for whatever reason

>>6599326
Ryo is missing his chin and his jaw, other than its good

New Thread:
>>6599529
>>6599529
>>6599529

>>6599326
Based male study anon, gmi