/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Anyone have good resources on landscapes in particular? Painting, drafting, thumbnailing, etc? Most things I find are on figure drawing, or they might touch on perspective principles to make a background. I’ve mostly just been trying to copy photos I’ve taken in order to practice my observation, but I’m wondering if there are some good techniques I’m missing out on.

>>6572442
https://online-courses.club/?s=landscape

>>6572425
well drawn but so unnapealing

I'm just drawing while studying/referencing others
am I really improving?

>>6572425

need more wet surfaces and giant Minotaur dick.

gotta start learning how to paint colors

gotta start learning how to paint colors

Question: I've seen many obvious /beg/s on here that show the paid commissions they're working on and I'm not gonna link to examples but they're pretty dog, like I wouldn't feel comfortable selling that to paying customers. How the fuck do you decide you're good enough to start asking pay for your work?

>>6572702
When I feel comfortable enough to put something out in public and then get a DM asking me for comm prices.

>>6572702
you're good enough to start asking pay for your work when there's people willing to pay for your work

>>6572425
Thanks for using it in the op dude.

>>6572507
>so unnapealing
Care to explain me why?
>>6572623
The giant dick was there at some point but I decided to remove it to avoid bans on socials and bullshit

how tf do i paint a sphere? can i not do it with a hard round brush? i fucking hate how i have to switch between hard brush, soft brush, and spray tool constantly while painting.

Test

>>6572425
Hello artist in the OP (or if artist is around). I have been following your work and would like to follow it more. I am /beg/. Do you have a web page or something? It's fine if you don't want to share; I will continue to just follow along here instead.

I understand the egg shape of the ribcage but how do I start it as a simpler shape?
is there a way to do with a sphere and turning it into the egg?

>did Brent Eviston's course for the last 3 days
>see:
>>6569080
>>6570229
>>6571641
>went to bed feeling like shit because the mouse kinda sucked
>hardcore self doubt kicked in
>started today's warm-up
>only did 5 minutes of light line drawing since it was boring me to tears
>followed by 5 minutes of circles
>stopped there, spent the next 20 minutes staring into space at the canvas and into my lap with insane brain fog, self doubt and pessimism
I want to blow my fucking brains out

How do I figure out how much of the sphere to cut off to make the loomis head?

>>6572832
Glad you like it, there's a link to my instashit in the old thread

>>6572794
Pretty sure he already taught you how to use the colorpicker.

Is Drawabox a good place to start if I wanted to learn some fundies?

>>6572425
why is the minotaur crying?
>>6572772
>The giant dick was there at some point but I decided to remove it to avoid bans on socials and bullshit
Theres lots of monster porn on twitter.

>>6572772
>so unappealing
Not the same Anon, but to me, there's nothing that grabs the attention of the viewer, everything is on the same 'level' when some stuff should detach from the background. The woman should be more detached from the Minotaur. Try squinting, and if it all comes out a blurry mess instead of a woman shaped body on top of a cow headed shaped man itself detaching from the background then you know what to work on.

>>6572895
Drop the eviston course. Start doing the Feng zhu regimen. https://youtu.be/WLqWX7onVmU

Summary:
>Do 20 minute studies, for 2 hours a day
>Basically, find reference from google, and copy it.
>Start with subject matter that's easy, interesting, but also stretches your abilities
>Be loose
>Start with big forms / shapes
>Add line-weights
>Add cross-contours and some basic shadowing
>Have fun!

This is better than just drawing a bunch of circles. You're practicing accuracy, observation, form, and building your visual knowledge

>>6572926
>why is the minotaur crying?
look on detail, she's gouging his left eye

>>6572772
>The giant dick was there at some point but I decided to remove it to avoid bans on socials and bullshit
uh, do-do you have the original, evn a sketch showing the dick?

>>6572954
this seems like good advice for someone with the ability of Feng Zhu that isn't going to criticize themselves to death because everything they draw looks like shit

I watched some Hampton videos and really tried gesture for the first time.. is it worth the time to start drawing gesture now while im still mostly working on observation?

>>6572989
I unironically think gesture is a /beg/ trap but personally as a /beg/ doing vilppu's manual helped me a shit ton with understanding 3d and figure drawing.

>>6572989
When you get the basics of why gesture is used it's enough.
You can see the flow of the body and you'll see more and more as you progress in other things like anatomy.
You don't have to be a master at it to continue, far from it, it's a concept that'll be usefull and be more and more usefull the beter you get.

>>6572989
I think gesture is more helpful later on, when you are already good at observation/copying and can get the pose accurately enough, so all your focus is on the gesture itself, rather than struggle with everything at once as a /beg/.
Feel free to do them in your own time for fun, but you won't get much out of them until later on, and it's just time wasted you could be investing in figure and other skills.

does it look good?

>>6572895
Don't be so rough on yourself, that mouse was pretty good. It's fine to have some days where you aren't feeling it or doubting in, in that case, just do what you did, a few warm ups or other quick nonsense to not lose the habit, and try again tomorrow. What matters is not giving up.

>>6573002
Looks recognizable and emotion can be read. Good.

>>6572648
Very cute, I like it. And indeed, you seem to have a decent grasp of shapes and shading/light, a good color palette will do wonders for that drawing.

>>6572943
Oh yeah, I can see it now
I'll take note for the next one
>>6572969
Sorry man it's gone

>>6572772
Coward

>>6572966
ahh that makes sense.

>>6573002
Slightly off-model, but I can tell who that is. Good job.

>>6572992
>>6572995
>>6572999
Yeah i think it might benefit me more once i get more into construction, so i probably wont spend too much time on it at this point.

Right now im spending a lot of time just copying lineart but it takes me so long to copy just one simple piece and i want to be able to draw a bit more intuitively

>>6572973
If you're criticizing yourself to death over not being good at something immensely complicated, that you haven't practiced and studied for years - then you have other issues to sort out before taking on a challenge like this

>>6572895
that mouse was good u fagggot, keep at it. you have a lot of potential. stop doubting yourself and being pessimistic.

>>6572973
The point of drawings trees, and rocks, is to let yourself make errors. The whole point of starting with easy subjects is to not criticize yourself to death. Watch the goddamn video, and you'll worry about a lot less

almost done

I drew Dominia Yizkor as a competing female bodybuilders for Ms. Olympia. What do you guys think?

What's a good book/tutorial for learning to shade with a pencil cause I just can't figure this shit out.

>>6573128
You have your muscles in the right places, but they're not "shaped" right. I suggest more figure drawing and master copies. Also, quick gestures to loosen your figures

Great effort though. Figure proportions are great

>>6573143

Yeah. I have been using actual FBB form Ms. Olympia as references. Dunno what I can do to get better

>>6572918
>Drawabox
improve your observation skills first otherwise is a waste of time dab
att. dab anon lesson 1-4 and didnt learn shit

>>6573120
not beg

It's already so late in the day. Is there any ability to start now?

>>6573188
Of course there is!
Every little bit helps.

>>6573178
>improve your observation skills first
How?

>>6573195
>How?
https://youtu.be/iK5Qn_Iwv9A
this kinda of exercise will not only improve your observations skills and dexterity, but also will sensitize your eyes to see angles accurately, something that is really important when learning perspective/construction and will make learning perspective really easy

>>6573145
>Dunno what I can do to get better
Keep observing. I copied through the whole Bridgman book twice (2000+ drawings) and I still don't feel like I really know the human figure

I’m trying to focus on how I render specifically.

>>6573244
you need medsmap digital painting course

Here is another pci I am working on.

why does it not look like him what the fuck am I doing wrong

>>6573248
The basic version is 270$

>>6573142
Use a napkin and eraser

Still struggling. Trying to do one sketch from photo per week. The change in weather is kicking my ass.

Knocked this out in pen on the back of a map to an auto plant, two twenty minute sessions. The face is better, the hands are worse than I've been doing. I'm doing more driving and less sitting, so less drawing and I'm working six day weeks again.
I'm so fucking tired.

how do you get extreme detail in graphite? i feel like all my attempts look like smudgy messes. especially in large bodies of water and grass ?

>>6573263
anonfiles com/t2PaW8J8u8/
passwords is Tonyo or tonyo
btw you can deleted the tonyo.exe
download the critiques from here https://online-courses.club/medsmap-complete-edition-by-ahmed-aldoori-critique-footage/

>>6573254
>Nose is a bit too sharp
>Eyes are weird
>Cheekbones idk
>chin is not pronounced at all

this is just what I have of the top of my head

>>6572895
I just draw things for fun.

>>6573249
i do not like your art because i am not a coomer but i do respect you for tackling such difficult pose

>>6573290
also
>hairline
>neck

Though mainly I think he just has a smaller face than the one you drew

I'll use this thread for water break talk

I've been talking with someone from Philippines and she wants to visit me. I'm socially inept, what the fuck do I do I don't want our friendship to end but I also don't want to be only friends forever. Please I need some guidance to not fuck up

>>6573304
You should expect disaster, yet meet her anyways. If it doesn't work out, there'll be more girls, and plus this experience will make you more socially competent

>>6572425
What's the OPs blog?

>>6573304
She is a gold digger so no matter what don't have sex with her if she is giving you a condom it will fail and she will suck you dry if she gets pregnant

>>6573307
>>6573316
Thanks both of you

>>6573304
imagine 'her' being a man using face filters

Best resource/exercises for line confindence other than drawabox?

>>6573367
download desmume and art academy and do the lessons

>>6573304
in all honesty are you attractive? if not then I'd be wary that she might be looking for something that has nothing to do with love - a way out of the Philippines, money, childcare trap. women are schemers

>>6573370
I have a physical DS, is your post ironic?

>>6573376
then play the game and do exactly as it says, i still recommend desmume because it has better pen tracking with a tablet than a ds

>>6573380
>pen tracking
Anon I can't even draw a straight line, I don't have a tablet.

>show canvas only
>becomes full screen
Thanks Krita, back to CSP I go. I don't even know why I try

>>6573444
https://docs.krita.org/en/reference_manual/preferences/canvas_only_mode.html

>>6573496
It still puts the entire thing in fullscreen

>>6573499
you tried

>>6573503
Yeah

>>6573506
yep

>>6573499
update krita retard

>>6573499
don't use krita, is outdated
keep using csp, comeback in 6-7years, maybe then krita will be on the same level as other programs

>>6572425
I think this needs some cool shadows, some blues and purples to make it read better

>>6573224
Thanks, so after observation and perspective, what do I do next?

doing my first acrylic painting, subject is Conan the Barbarian at the end when he is on his throne.

Do you guys think #1 or #2 is better compositionally?

I prefer #1 because it's more comic style, but #2 seems more painterly/better for the medium

>>6573517
How do I get CSP?

hey you
yes you
you a fag

>>6573535
1, the negative space gives a better sense of scale for the weapon and it has a nice stair / L-shape pattern
2 looks more like he's just sitting in a waiting room, not very imposing

>>6573535
#1 should have an animals head above his head like a trophy

>>6573538
buy
https://www.clipstudio.net/en/purchase/
or download the crack version
>>6568378
>>6568734

5

>>6573534
>what do I do next?
do whatever you want to
figure drawing, head construction, landscape, etc

>>6573535
I prefer 1 I don't like how the spear is cut off in 2 and why do you think it's better for acrylic?

>>6572623
Gay , dickless monsters are way scarier

Are these ellipses and the resulting cylinder correct? Is there any tip to see if the curves in the quadrants are right, or should I just try my best?

>>6573659
1:05:07
https://www.youtube.com/live/4N37KLv1jp0?feature=share&t=3905

>>6573293

The best part is that I am making this pose from mostly scratch as I am trying to draw a full body shot of this doujin page.

how do you DRAW TITS OFF THE STARTER RIBCAGE

>>6573790
feel the form

>>6573790
>skipped observational drawing
sad choosing to be blind

>>6573790
having tits is the greatest art cheat ever

Any critique before I start to develop bad habits? I don't like the linework but I can't put my finger on why.

Here is an update of my pic.

>>6573864
It doesn't feel like you've spent a very long time on any study. Find artwork you admire, and copy it. 20 minutes per study, at least. Get it EXACT, down to the sweep and tremors of their lines. Make it indistinguishable. If the study turned out like crap, start over and do it again. Do this every day, for several months, and you'll begin to see things you never saw before.

I say all this, because your lines look like you're operating off theory alone, as if you were going "this is where the deltoid goes, then here is the triceps, etc.". That's like a language learner constructing sentences off grammar alone. You need to copy and get a feel for how the fundamentals of figure drawing apply to actually drawing.

>>6573864
You draw like a cubist

I eye balled the arms shoulders and head to test my muscle memory

Hello beg. Church library crypt v2 is here. A less shitty to be sure but we will see what boss will say

>>6573864
do you have stabilizer on? these line shapes are very... unusual
>>6573367
drawing without using eraser, using hard round brush and never using undo, drawing shitton of gestures
>>6573283
have you tried sharping your pencil so it is very pointy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d3H4RACOcM
>>6573282
why not one sketch every day?
>>6573244
unique and SOUL. and somewhat terrific. thumbs up
>>6573195
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing
>>6573142
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing/page/102
>>6573110
she looks like she bullies virgins. i like how the booba dont fit into bra and pubes poking out. coomable
>>6572989
you can easily do few gestures every day while continuing observation training
>>6572918
DaB is great if you want to burn out and never draw again in your life. Pick keys to drawing for fundies in fun form
>>6572702
idk if you are implying it is me but i didnt decide anything. i was just posting in BEG as usual and suddenly a dude busted into my discord and threatened me with promise of money if i will draw for him. And yes he saw my shit right here in beg. I also got told by somebody on DA to send them my CV that they might hire me. So yeah begs, sign your shit and you might get hired by weirdos to draw church library crypts and stuff.
>>6572648
cute and soulful

>>6572895
despite how much I wanted to throw all my art supplies in the bin, I drew a fish
idk Anons, I've been down this road before, 4 years ago I got through half of Keys to Drawing and a bit of Drawabox, found the latter to be very unenjoyable, so much so that I only started again in the last few days
just feeling a bit overwhelmed and hopeless. I know that grinding fundies isn't fulfilling, and the advice of just drawing what I want to is not gonna work since whenever I do that I immediately want to never draw again because it looks so bad
the process of drawing doesn't feel fun on any level. maybe it would if I was better, but that's not the case, and the way to get better is in itself not fun

>>6573043
not sure how anyone could grind rocks and trees for hours every day without seeing it as a prison sentence

>>6573985
Why do you want to draw? Is there anything about drawing that makes it fun for you and where is your reference for the fish?

>>6573916
Thanks for the advice. I'll start on that tonight.
>>6573975
I don't think I have messed with the default stabilization in csp. I just drew a lot of separate lines.

>>6573975
>activate windows watermark
...........based?

>>6573304
>I'll use this thread for water break talk
>I've been talking with someone from Philippines and she wants to visit me. I'm socially inept, what the fuck do I do I don't want our friendship to end but I also don't want to be only friends forever. Please I need some guidance to not fuck up
Don't be pushy. If you are looking for dating bring that up at a suitable time.
Not all relationships work out, but you can still be friends.

>>6573992
>Why do you want to draw?
not long ago I was making crude pixel art, but soon realized that I was sticking to incredibly simple stuff as a crutch, and that if I had the ability I'd be making much more complex work
I have lots of ideas for games that I'd like to be able to actually get out of my head, but to do so would require drawing ability
also, I save so much art from other people that it pains me to not be able to make it myself, to the point where I've felt bitter at others for having said ability
>Is there anything about drawing that makes it fun for you
not really, outside of the exercise of making organic looking shapes with loose motions from the shoulder, that feels quite fun once I get into the flow-state
I feel like I need a guarantee that if I just keep doing what I'm doing I'll end up being able to draw everything I can imagine, but it seems so uncertain that I feel as if I'll potentially just be putting myself through mind-numbing grind for countless hours

>>6574008
Everyone has these doubts, but if you want to learn to draw you need to put them away. There is no guarantee that you will learn drawing, because many people who set out on the path never end up making it. The success rate is really really low. I've seen artists drag on for 10 years plus, never improving, even though they take classes from Vilppu, Brainstorm, CDA, listening to all the pros. When you are in this business long enough, you begin to see how incompetent most people are. And unfortunately, you are right now in that class of incompetent people.

But if you have the drive to think critically and overcome your negative attitude, then you can learn to draw. Countless anons have done it, and you can do it too.

My advice is to follow this guide: https://davidfinchart.com/where-to-start-and-where-to-go-from-there-a-roadmap-to-professional-quality-art/

Do it with real effort, and you'll improve. I think you should jump into figure drawing straight away, because animals, landscapes, etc are all too easy. Many landscape painters never learn to draw the figure because they get stuck. Start figure drawing, and watch yourself grow.

>>6573864
Your lines look weird because they're all composed of short straight lines instead of a single smooth line. It's digital so just try to get large portions of the linework in with one smooth line and you can always keep your finger on the undo button. It's not unusual to try to get the perfect line by drawing it like 20 times until you get it right and it'll get you mileage.

>>6573304
if you have money you're gonna be fine, cunts from third world generally are good keepers

>>6574008

Anon, try drawing something for fun for change and don't give a shit about fundies for a while. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try to not apply what you learned from your copies but just draw whatever comes to mind, not matter how ridiculous the idea is even if you think you can't draw it correct just do some doodles and random shit. Try drawing some concepts for your game ideas first, don't worry about them being perfect for now you want to first start with the ideas and you'll eventually improve and build upon them anyway.

For grinding I suggest picking up life drawing or trying a new medium if you haven't already. Maybe what you need is a switch up from your usual tools or monotonous routines to try something new and this can provide a new perspective with potential gains. Try coloring, painting, or rendering sometimes you have to polish turds. For the goldfish look carefully at the folds of the fins, think about how they work and how the fins swim. Think more and ask yourself about the subject, by making yourself curious about your subject instead of thinking of it as a means to an end but more as an opportunity to learn about your subject. That mindset makes it feel less mind-numbing grinding for the sake of git gud but more as fun learning. Sure it might ultimately be a means to an end but if you are able to change your mindset it will make it more bearable cause one of the easiest ways to get through grinding is finding a way to make it fun somehow. Is there anything you enjoy or anything you ever wanted to study? Try drawing that subject, maybe find a subject that you want to include in your game to study.

>>6573985

>the process of drawing doesn't feel fun on any level. maybe it would if I was better, but that's not the case, and the way to get better is in itself not fun

Anon when you draw what is your state of mind what thoughts run through your head? This I think is very important to the enjoyment of process.

Where should I collect references? There's gotta be a more efficient method than googling things up one by one.

>>6574089
I just use my porn folder because I wanna draw cute girls

>>6574092
That's my problem, I don't have one.

>>6574093
Start downloadin' then, son

Phenomenal pheromones

>>6574087
>when you draw what is your state of mind what thoughts run through your head?
mostly just process stuff relating to how I can get the drawing to be as accurate as possible, mixed with a lot of self-doubt and frustration as I realize I'm making mistakes
appreciate the reply (and the other Anon's) by the way, and what you said about finding a way to make it more enjoyable is something I'll keep in mind for sure
I find the Faber-Castell art really appealing, and almost all of the art I save has very bold colors, so me drawing in exclusively black pencil might be why it's not terribly fun at the moment, as well as the subject matter not being wildly interesting to me (fish, birds, mice), so on the side I'll try and draw some stuff that's a bit more relevant to my goals
thanks again for the help

I figured out I can just keep an index card folded up lodged into my mechanical pencil
I use it as a ruler for getting proportions right (measure the head with the blue lines)
I also doodled on some proportion notes on it

This seems like a retarded question but what's good posture/setting for drawing?

>>6573975
you know idk why but i was under the impression you would rather use dull pencils then finely sharpened ones. ill try that next sketch

Fun with a pencil or Perspective Made Easy?

I'm on my journey to get into oil painting, but need to get good at drawing first. ready to do exercises and practice, but not sure where to start.

opinions?

Mike Tyson sketch. rate?

>>6574175
colored ver

ref

>>6574175
Likeness is off. He looks like he's from some Korean webtoon. I wouldn't be able to tell it was Mike

for anyone who didn't learn from loomis, how did you learn?

>>6574203
Vilppu

>>6574193
how can i improve on the likeness? is the eyes or somethign like that?

>>6572425
>too little color/contrast
Everything is brown. I barely even noticed the guy on the floor because his skin tone and shading matches the sporadic shading of the floor.
>too much detail
Rather than being something impressive everything in the background comes off as distracting. Theres all this detail consistently around and for what?
>light logic missing
Light is coming from top left, makes sense you put the lit gateway there. Except its also supposed to be behind them.

It's not that bad but the mistakes made seem like the kind of thing that happens when you don't look at your art from far away.

>>6574203
Bridgman

What do you guys think of Marc Brunet's 1 year study plan? I know not everyone of you like the guy, but how about the study schedule and exercise plan video he made? Do you think it's a good start if I'm planning on getting back on art?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NYqmhESI-Y

>>6574176
There is no likeness. You gave him white features and his face is missing volume. His real face is puffy and a lot softer looking.

Soft pastel self portrait from life

i spent a few months improving my handwriting and my drawings improved

you likely have more things you need to write down than ideas for drawings, so practice is easy

it exercises many of the fundamentals. curves matter. the space within and surrounding curves matters. line weight matters. it pushes you towards matching things exactly i.e. making all your letters and spacing/kerning and heights/widths the same

ama

>>6574332
I like how all the major planes have line strokes going in the same direction. It results in a cleaner image.

>>6574332
not beg, gtfo

>>6574338
Past high school, no one writes anymore.

You must be 18 to post on this board

>>6574358
it says /beg/ & /int/

>>6574383
you’re /pro/ ;)

>>6574389
Your stuff is better than 99% of this board and all you're using is a single pixel brush. No rules, only tools.

>>6574389
I drawed this in ms paint just for fun a not lose the habit

>>6574332
Great job

>>6574392
OH thank you for your compliment :D

>>6574393
Good enough to start producing a manga. The popularity would be enormous if the story doesn't suck.

>>6574408
Shit, my writing skills are awful

>>6574412
Nah, that's really good. GTFO of here.

How do I train my creativity? I want to draw but when I sit there to draw I don't know what to draw, it sucks.

>>6574468
Fake it 'til you make it. I'm currently working on reproducing picrel with acrylics. I'm learning and that's what is important at this stage. Learn your medium THEN make your own works.

>>6574392
this is a nice boost of OP's ego, but its not better then 99% of the stuff here. Complete bs

>>6574468
Personally I find new music and try to convey the meaning of the songs in sketches. There’s lots of roll to draw games that can help expose you to new concepts too. I like Chuck Lukacs Fantasy Genesis.

so charming

>>6574468
I remember just making scribbles and then trying to turn them into something. It's like making up shit looking at clouds.

warm ups

>>6574332
you just doxxed yourself. I'm closing in to your home as I post this

>>6574249
Dunno. Seems too me like you're scared to draw him black enough, face features wise. Maybe some other anon can give you constructive advice

>>6574502
Lurk moar, faggo. The shit that gets posted here is abysmal.

>>6574175
>>6574176
>>6574177
like most nogs, he has a flat nose

are there printable templates for drawabox exercises like this?

all I could do in 10 mins.

>>6574637
A ruler should suffice.

>>6574175
Give him tits and call him Mike Titson

please rate

>>6574166
Don't take advice from /beg/s.
You don't get good advice from someone who struggles as much as you do. They're too focused on getting out to help properly.

>>6574644
it's all about maximizing efficency

>>6574650
Well then, man of efficiency. You can start by making the template yourself.

Instead of doing all that nonsense with the viewfinder for static images, can't I just enlarge the pic on my monitor and trace the reference dimension on my sheet?

>>6574655
surely someone has made it before.

>>6572832
>>6573312
This guy https://www.instagram.com/necrononymous/
His other stuff is really beg though

>>6574665
>this page isn't available
I'm gonna assume that it's Instagram taking issue with my adblocker.

>>6574656
both keys to drawing and right(betty was a republican btw) side of the brain are obsolete when you can do digitally and get instafeedback
https://youtu.be/iK5Qn_Iwv9A
https://youtu.be/HMX3K3YMbd8

>>6574676
don't assume people have wacoms and shit, especially when they are prebegs like me

>>6572425
Any good tutorials on how to start into digital art that you guys know? Bonus points if it is on paint tool sai.

>>6574646
despite the shitpost, that line confidence is easily high /int/

>>6572425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZlXQCMd5M0

>>6574637
Anybody else think shit like this is a complete and utter waste of time, even for an absolute beginner? Just do studies. No one has ever gotten paid for drawing circles really well in one go. Beg trap.

>>6574166
Very good advice for /beg/s, but I disagree with the meme that talent doesn't exist. Some people have insane talent for drawing and painting and others don't. If you don't, you'll have to work a lot harder to get the same results. It is what it is.

Titty tan lines

>>6574778
use your monitor as a light table, ez
that's what i did

any short guides for eyes?
Mostly cartoon/anime styled, I get the placement is supposed to be like a bit below the sphere's half way line and to narrow it as the head turns but that's it

>>6574665
Darn, I thought slime rape guy had actually finished something.

>>6574606
i dont lurk buddy. i post here more than you do.

>>6574392
>>6574397
What a fucking bullshit take, lol.

I need to practice even more
/\
'_'/

my first drawing since elementary school, what do you think?
I started drawing from his head.

>>6575013
hey beavis huhuhu

>>6575013
Nice faces, are they from reference or imagination ?

>>6575033
reference

>>6575040
I meant to tag >>6575016 not you
Sorry

how do i draw this 10/10 baddie

>>6575043
Thanks anon the stuff I post here is mostly from imagination

>>6575106
Just take measurements you dumb fuck

>>6574837
I would take the time to copy Bridgman or some other artist who draws great nude figures. Your stuff looks like you’re just repeating the same bad habits, and forcing yourself to copy line work can help break some of those habits

This is as far as I got on the piece before I pressed too hard on a goof line and killed motivation, but I'm drawing art daily versus drawing art never so I guess I'll post it anyway. Actually went outside to try and find the right ledge to get perspective from and everything, so fucking up and drawing too hard, or that weird thing where you're trying to draw a line and your hand just goes 'lol lmao' and shoots off in the wrong direction, just got me tilt and I pressed too hard on the paper so it's stuck there.

The goal isn't improvement of craft, it's improvement of behavior. OP said it and that's what I'm holding onto. Right now, I'll spend weeks between doodling any my ideas, and that NEEDS to change. If that means drowning /ic/ in retarded permabeg art of fanfics of a /co/ show about gay witches, well that's what's happening. I need to draw more, more than I need to draw well.

>>6575181
I get you had fun, but pure delight won't sustain learning to draw. I recommend having a regimen of studies. It can be very simple. I recommend getting Bridgman and simply making 3 studies out of it per day. Just do it for 30 minutes, then do whatever you want to do.

What you'll find is that if you focus, you go into a flow state, which becomes very delightful. You'll find that you'll get more motivation and confidence to work on your personal projects too.

>>6573574
looking good

>>6572918
Yes but don’t just do DAB, I’m following radio runner’s curriculum which has many other resources

day 5 of Brent Eviston's course, starting Dynamic Mark Making
did more lines than necessary but was having fun with it. sorry for the doomer faggotry yesterday, I won't give up

>>6575013
Was this the upside-down version turned right-side up?

>>6575199
I want to clarify, I meant to post this in /do art daily/, (on the road now, can’t go back and relink it) because I want to improve my art, BUT I also need to improve my output, and I can’t do both right now. So this is how I want to make that happen. I can improve the art once I have the consistency of actually doing the art down. Right now it’s months between effort and that needs to change first, even if it’s nothing but cringe permabeggery or whatever. I need to like doing art regularly.

>>6575013
looks like a standard stravinsky exercise

This one was supposed to be on /alt/ but the thread died before I could post it.

>>6575313
what's jazz?

>>6575317
I haven't thought this far...

>>6575106
like this anon

>>6575255
gmi. godspeed

This is Elhaym Van Houten from my Xenogears Doujin.

Here she is experimented on to have muscles grown on her.

>>6572702
I may feel that I'm a fraud but the market is always rights

>>6575366
you just disrespected the shit out of her bruh. she is fine as fuck! dont draw her like that

>>6575378
fr fr no cap on a stack bruh

i attempted to draw porn/erotica. ik its a shitty sketch but do you have any crits for me?

>>6575386
yo yo cuz, weez da best music cuh, no cap bruh. we wuz shootin' n' sheet

>>6575387

>>6574175
Nose needs to look rounder and the lips need more volume

>>6575250
Yes, i flipped it normally when I finished it, but i was out of canvas space and skipped the very bottom of it.

>want to draw digital
>don't want to invest
AAAAAAAAAAAA

>>6575423
huoin tablet is like 50 bucks and any art program is free
i’m sure if you shop around on facebook groups or thrift stores you might find one for cheaper (with questionable quality but you pay for what you get)

>>6575387
I don't like it
this'll be a good exercise for you

Can't say I will be able to make things much better, but I would like to hear if there are any serious mistakes that need fixing ASAP.

>>6575478

>>6575481
>feel the form
I'm trying, but it's hard to show anything in pure lineart.

>>6575366
>police sketch artists browse these threads
god damn that's her officer

Perspective is fun. Right guy's head is giving me trouble though. It should be wider at the bottom and slimmer at the top, like its lower body, but it's harder to give it the depth needed.

>>6575423
Seconding >>6575429
I recently bought a Huoin hs611 for around 60 euros on scamazon.

Accidentally uploaded big version.

>>6575459
what about this one

>>6575393

been doing more cartoony stuff lately and i tried using the lineart "glow" effect i saw on one of marc brunet's videos where you just blur the outline on a different layer and i'm in love with how it turned out!
>>6574332
>>6574393
>>6575313
these are awesome, blogs?

>>6575557
this also rules btw didn't see it while scrolling

I was doing some 60 second sketches, I added more detail to the one on the right after

>>6574383
i don't think this is /int/ either

who is the biggest faggot of this thread? see pic

How do I practice drawing bodies?
My current attempts are garbage

>>6575600
Have you tried using ovoids for the torso? I feel like they make more sense.

>>6575612
For some reason I have a really hard time understanding perspective when using them instead, even if the shape makes more sense.

>>6572425
reposting cuz i got no replies last time.

any critiques on this

why do I always seem to forget how to draw straight lines?

>>6575630
I'm kind of confused at your perspective(s)

How do I make my black characters look black and not Indian in a cartoony style?

how do i learn to paint digitally? i need something comprehensive so 1 youtube vid aint gonna cut it.

Rotating between drawing a nature journal from life and perspective made easy. I did drawabox and have somewhat of a grasp on "how" you place the slightly converging lines in a convincing box but holy moly it's a different animal when someone is like "stop drawing floating cuboids and start putting them in a believable scene."

>>6575649
Big lips
Big noses
Afros

>>6575621
You could use a method for finding the plane of the boxes with the ovoids. Hampton and Vilppu have stuff on that. Hampton's Figure Drawing - Desing and Invention picrel.

>>6575652
medsmap digital paintinig

>>6575600
learn perspective

>>6575652
ctrl paint (it’s a website)

>>6575653
You should take look at this, too:
https://e-hentai.org/s/1d6d6e58d3/2170768-1
Pic related is from the part where he talks about stuff like that.

>>6575656
wtf this is crazy is this in the video course general?

>>6575653
https://boards.4chan.org//ic/thread/S6572425#p6573284

>>6575680
never seen a reply/link this fucked up before cuh

>>6575680
What happened here? ChatGPT hallucination?

I don’t know what else to do but this feels unfinished and mediocre

sorry, wrong anon
i was replying to
>>6575677

>>6575676
I was going to look at DHK's book after Norling's (actually bought both) but maybe it's worth doing them together

>>6575696
oh i deleted that post because i found it (sorry)
thank you um i love you

>>6575699
Yeah I think it's beneficial to just do a skim of all of them to know what's in each book, so if you're having trouble when you're going through one thoroughly then you'll know where to look for help in another book. I only do that because I have trouble sticking to a book at a time though.

>>6575655
Thank you for the recommendations

>>6575653
Your tables vanishing point overshot the horizon line.

>>6575691
It's looking in different directions.

>>6575715
Yeah, I'm gonna have to work for a bit before I can freehand the eyeline/VP stuff. I figure if I'm out somewhere I probably won't have the ruler so putting in my memory is the priority.

>>6575653
learn how to rotate a cube inside another cube and how to create grids using cubes

>>6575630
Feels like homestuck.

>>6575723
ghost your lines, friend

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>>6573975
>Why not one sketch every day?
Working back up to it. Starting a new squad. Had time to start one girl.

I need help with this pic.
Been trying to fix it for a while.

>>6575797
head is big and the legs are too long

Is it possible to learn to draw and also have time to write 4-10k words a day?

>>6575818
Depends on how good those words have to be.

>>6575805

Can you give eme an outline on what it should look like?

/turbobeg/ here: how did I do?

I am only now just checking the side by side and see I messed up the pelvis tilt. I focused more on the torso/leg construction so ignore the shitty hands and head. will probably give it a final pass with a better brush and add some shading/hair.

>>6575856
>turbobeg
better than me

>>6575856
Hi anon, it's very important to think of the body as a series of "hard" and "soft" shapes. The hard shapes move independently of each other, and the soft shapes bend and squish and stretch between them. The most important "hard" forms to understand are the 3 forms of the head, rib-cage, and pelvis. The limbs are tubes. Keep each "hard" shape as symmetrical as possible. It's useful, in the beginning, to think of them as boxes, as Bridgman and Hampton teach. Try not to just draw the contours of the figure, then fill in whatever construction you think should be there. Focus on moving the independent hard shapes.

I know these figures are robotic and unnatural, but it'll help you think in the right way later on.

>>6575873
How is it that I can, however briefly, "see" this image, and then it fades away and I'm baffled by what I see?

>>6575248
continued, did quite a lot today but still feel like I can do more
top-left didn't turn out as planned. bottom-right looks okay to me, but they all feel a bit stiff, need to work on relaxing more

>>6575877
also haven't moved onto the construction and stuff yet, but got an okay feel for how to draw through objects with the cups here
sorry for the shit pics btw, have to auto-tone a lot of them since no scanner, IRL this one is way lighter and hardly visible

Should i handwrite the text or do you have any cool suggestions i can use for font style? I'd appreciate any advice, please and thanks!

shouldn't have gone for the pencil before understanding fundies. I have no idea what I'm doing

What did I do right
What did I do wrong
How can I get better

>>6575883
also fuck it, just some bean things, find these fun to do. Brent doesn't say anything about line weight, shading or adding the stems but whatever

Hello beg, today i did little progress in the perspective book. So far it didnt reveal anything new but i like the ink.

>>6575908
there are various inaccuracies but nothing what wont be fixed by simple: draw more approach. keep going anon
>>6575904
you mean pen / ink. and it looks like you kinda know what are you doing. it has kino potential
>>6575899
hand written text adds soul but be careful with the readability. if it is struggle to read the text then majority of people will drop the comic instantly. btw i have no idea what i am looking at
>>6575877
lmao i never saw exercise like this before. very cool cups
>>6575856
the thighs are round anon, practice how cross contours work on cylinders and spheres. And that head is prebeg level of disaster
>>6575818
trying to do too many things at once tends to backfire hard. Why not having one writing day and then one drawing day? And cycle through them?
>>6575782
that whole hand on the left is wrong. use references anon otherwise you are just cementing bad habits
>>6575745
INT?
>>6575691
whats up with the shadows on her chest? thats very confusing
>>6575557
the lack of proper rendering on the tears is clashing a lot with the rest of the picture
>>6575059
very cool and very unique
>>6574656
tracing doesnt level up your observation, line confidence, feeling the form or the ability to draw in general. you can definitely do the book without viewfinder if you have confidence
>>6574676
the scope and power level of keys to drawing is way bigger than simple "accuracy" training, dont spread nonsense
>>6574646
tumblr mentally unstable tranny artist / 10
>>6574468
steal / get inspired from AI art pictures and claim you came up with all that wild shit it sometimes shits out on your own
lexica.art
>>6574164
loomis book outright tells you at the start you need to know perspective beforehand. So yeah. If you are complete beg i recc keys to drawing first and foremost
>>6574128
the one where your body doesnt hurt

>>6575313
The T is triggering the /gd/ inside of me, there has to be a better option for the text. Did you enter each letter on align left instead of centering it?

>>6573291
Some of these are sick

>>6575955
Holy shit, you are right, I didn't even noticed that lmao. I tried centering but looked weird, if I have noticed the "T" I would have done differently.

>>6575313
i can see some tangents in the body/bg and letters/bg
https://youtu.be/RJIWllIMHsg

>>6575952

Any help improving this pic?

Art is pain, please gib advice

>>6575908
>What did I do right
Not a bad gesture drawing
Pose is generally decent
>What did I do wrong
Head's too small
Left shoulder should be lower than right
Figure should be leaning back further
>How can I get better
Pay closer attention to your reference
Practice!

fucking hell inking is hard, so much easier to completely beef the whole drawing than when you're penciling

I am doing the Framed Perspective book and have been doing the recursive/geometry type exercises the book has thrown me thus far.

How can I apply these exercises to drawing the body?

Is this where I'm supposed to start drawing bodies as boxes/cylinders? I thought that was a meme.

Where do NSFW artists post their sppedpaints/livedraws?

anyone understand how this guy does this?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0kK2jyjAbo&lc=

>>6576019
draw cubes, cubes anon...

>>6576022
i’ve never thought of that before anon kek. does picarto have vods maybe?

>>6576073
My PTSD from burning out drawing boxes nonstop for 3 months years ago is kicking in
how do I avoid this

>>6575952
>INT?
nah just some eternal permaprebeg
Never felt i had anything in my art that will allow me to call myself an int

How do I study the Morpho hands/feet book?

Do I just copy all the images in the book? Or is it one of those books that you read and THEN apply?

someone please redline this, I been working on perspective and I think I'm getting better but there's a good few fundi problems with this that I'm having trouble diagnosing. ignore the lopsided hair and the sleeve missing on her left arm, I have moved and redrawn most of this at this point so I just need to put it down and have someone who knows what they are doing look at it.

Am kinda retarded how do you make big tits look good?
I barely noticed that the shape of actual giant knockers are a lot different from fictional ones

>>6576200
Copy the fictional ones. Master copies are a sacred way to learn.

>>6576189
I don't think you have any problems with perspective per se. I think you just need to get more comfortable moving around your basic shapes of the figure. I've recommended it a lot before, but figure drawing is really important. The best is 5-10 minute poses, where you can at least get down a basic construction

>>6576176
I copied all the images in that book. Just 30 minutes a day, and you'll find you'll get through the book really quickly. It automatically shows up in your personal work, because Lauricella repeats the same construction of the hand over and over again, and the sheer repetition reinforces the information

>>6576212
I'll do that from now on as practice. Right now I find a pose I like and try to construct it, but if I should be doing quicker drills to get the hand of things, I'll do that. Thanks, anon.

>>6576242
Gmi! If you need any resource recommendations, I think David Finch's youtube videos on constructing the figure are great. His roadmap is also really great

first time doing three point perspective.

>>6575646
me too.
>>6575733
people say that a lot about my art for some reason.


>>6575952
very nice! i'm jealous.
>>6575991
the hair is really werid looking; the arm right arm is fucked up' the right eye is too far away from the other; head is too wide; and the lineart is not confident .
I suggest just grinding for a while.

>>6576246
I've definitely heard his name before, I'll check him out. Thanks.

>>6576200
show bobs

>>6576250
The other 2 vanishing points are equally wrong.

>>6576260
thanks, i'm going to have to work on my off page vanishing points

>>6575952
>>6575782
>That whole hand on the left is wrong
>Use references
You can be pretty thick sometimes.

practicing hands from imagination and it reminded me of Hades so have a goblin hades

>>6572425
I am trying to practice hands more.
Also i wanted to get asian characteristics on the face but i don't think it worked.(think the way vagabond manga looks)

>>6576282
Hands are too big or the head is too small. If you put the bottom of your palm on your chin so the hand is covering your face, your middle finger might only just reach your hairline.

>>6576282
looks good, other hand anon here, grain of salt but just remember that there's a rhythm to the first knucles (between the carpals and phalanges) that bends down from the middle knuckle, it's not a straight line.

NEW THREAD
>>6576355
>>6576355
>>6576355

>>6576250
>people say that a lot about my art for some reason.
It's be cause of the simplistic linework and the character desing. Its reminscent of homestuck and other stuff by that authro

>>6574814
Lolmao. Maybe high beg, definitely not high int. You need to work on your observation skills. I recommend doing more studies.

>>6575899
just don't use comic sans

>>6575952
I noticed that hypercam logo lol. Also, a windows key is like 3 bucks on key websites. There was also that software that just gets rid of the text but I forgot the name. /g/ should know.

>>6575952
why are you using unactivated windows when you're just using krita anyway? just install ubuntu or debian, you'll get better performance

>>6576200
Opposite question, how do I best tackle the giant tits I really like? The ones that are semi fictional, somewhat saggy yet also very bouncy and round with a lot of weight and warmth?