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Will quality and passion overcome technology and greedyness?

>> No.6571289

>>6571281
without a doubt

>> No.6571291
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6571291

Yes, as long as we work together and remain strong.

>> No.6571293

>>6571281
only when the market is saturated which it is now

>> No.6571298

>greediness
>tech accessible by any mouth breather so its worth is just going to plummet off a cliff
do these retards not have any foresight?

>> No.6571302
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6571302

>oversaturation
>no copyright
Crash like every other scam

>> No.6571310

>quality and passion overcome tech
lol tech has always won

>> No.6571322
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6571322

>>6571281

>> No.6571324

>>6571322
>this nigger is 123 years old
holy boomer

>> No.6571326

>>6571281
Clout chasers are disgusting

>> No.6571330
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6571330

Already did
Next question

>> No.6571338
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6571338

>>6571330
How do you read that?

>> No.6571343

>>6571338
3 months vs 2 years

>> No.6571344

>>6571281
Oversaturation will kill AI art. Non-artists within my circles are already getting sick of Pixiv and sadpanda being filled with AI.

>> No.6571346

>>6571343
But how can they have more traffic in the last 3 months than in the last 2 years?

>> No.6571349

>>6571346
Organic traffic vs paid traffic
aka
New users searching for the site vs existing ones that bookmatkred it

>> No.6571363

>>6571349
I don't think that's what paid traffic means, plus in the image the paid traffic line is at a constant 0 for both artstation and deviantart

>> No.6571439

>>6571330
>>6571338
can someone explain those pics to me? wtf is going on there?

>> No.6571441
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6571441

>>6571439
Both sites allowed AI art to go untagged
Kaboom

Deviantart traffic crashed
Artstation got flooded by Indians

>> No.6571443

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psuRGfAaju4

>> No.6571450
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>>6571441
Serves them right.

>> No.6571452

>>6571441
>Deviantart traffic crashed
but it didn't though

>> No.6571454

>>6571281
>Will quality and passion overcome technology and greedyness?
Do you know why this scene is so famous?
>https://youtu.be/VVxYOQS6ggk
Because that inmoral logic has built the world of shit we live in today. And it will not stop. It didn't stop back then for the american labour, healthcare, education, industry, and it will not stop for our precious and naive art community. This thing will run you through like a blitzkrieg of demons full on coke.

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>>6571441
>Artstation got flooded by Indians
Pajeet here. That's about the worst thing that can happen to a site. Just look at how my people shat up Quora

>> No.6571463
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6571463

>>6571281
Was a banger tweet
AI bros have no taste holy crap

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6571468

>>6571281
>blowing up supposedly free money by farming youtube views with it, ensuring complete oversaturation

>> No.6571486

Look at the highest grossing films
Look at the Disney remakes
Look at the Marvel movies
Now ask that question again

>> No.6571493

>>6571441
I always thought this would be an issue. People go to art station to hire artists. If they can't make what they are saying they can make it's just a waste of time for recruiters.

>> No.6571494
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6571494

>>6571441
>imagine actually wanting to be an artist so much you take any opportunity and cheat to become one
>imagine actually trying to apply for a job at a studio
>imagine not knowing the workload to pay ratio of the great majority of art jobs is
>imagine wanting to do that instead of getting a comfy job where you can also socialize do the bare minimum while getting paid way more and work way less
>"With AI, now everyone can be an artist!"
>imagine actually wanting to be an artist
>imagine setting your life's ambition to becoming an artist
I find it funny how normies jump at every single opportunity thinking they'll make ez pz money as if companies and other people are more stupid than them.

>> No.6571497

>>6571281
>technology and greedyness
After these triumph art will become so sterile that people will stop attributing goodness and beauty to it. And if that happens there may even arise an iconoclastic movement which will attempt to ban art entirely. It'll be like Plato's city without all the cool shit, and the high priests will be resentful pink-haired trannies.

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6571499

>>6571281
The funny thing is that if you watched the 2nd video you'd see how he made almost nothing. They're basically all videos taking the piss and showing it's no big deal.

The fact anti-AI people keep reposting this just proves you stupid fucks kneejerk over anything instead of doing research. You are clout-chasing idiots who look for any reason to not draw, rather than ignoring that shit because it's not affecting you.
Any reasonable person ignores the "literal piles of trash" sculptures in postmodern art galleries. Why not go after those guys? After all they took the "fine art jobs" away from people who paint beautiful nature scenes!

>> No.6571529

>>6571499
>>6570821
Fuck off you brain dead ai shitter

>> No.6571566

>>6571529
I'm not even an AI artist, I just hate the stupid pretentious fucks who populate twitter and this board.
Naiive romantic nodraw shitters have no right to complain when other people are just doing their own shit.

>> No.6571568

>>6571566
>when other people are just doing their own shit.
If that was the case though and those
"""doing their own shit"""" didn't spam their shit everywhere and other naive nodraw shitters that want to follow their example by spamming the same shit threads and post on how to become internet famous and make money without ever holding a pen in their hands

>> No.6571574

>>6571568
Half of the AI threads are just people trolling the board because you dumbfucks have such a reaction to it
The other half are people who are legitimately retarded, egomaniacs who can't stand to see people doing better than themselves and make everything into something personal. A portion of THOSE think we're getting skynet and are the most disingenuous weasels because they are stirring up bullshit with lies purely because they think they're stopping a doomsday scenario. They're like fucking vegans of the "we don't want you to like us, we want you to stop killing animals (stop the robots from taking over)!" stripe.

>> No.6571575

>>6571574
t. AIshitter

>> No.6571577

>>6571566
>doing their own shit.
Like not tagging it properly?

>> No.6571578

>>6571575
Nah I'm primarily a trad artist, but eventually I'll make and release for free a .ckpt of my own art to just fuck with anti-AI people lmao

>> No.6571582

>>6571578
t.AIshitter pretending to be trad artist

>> No.6571583

>>6571577
The retards not tagging things properly are an issue, not specific to AI art but I will agree that they're stupid. It's like the people on deviantart who don't tag their fetish art as mature and get offended when the site auto-flags it.

>> No.6571590

>>6571583
Improperly tagging a fetish = wanted views
Improperly tagging AI = wanted to be called an artist

>> No.6571593

>>6571574
There are 40+ ai threads at /g/ right when chatpgt 4 got released, shitter.

>> No.6571595

>>6571452
Some of smut writers I watched ended up spamming AI pics, with titles like "Lisa (My OC)" but every one of them looks different from the other. Needless to say, they stopped writing smut for a while, at which I unfollowed them becsuse bitch I dont follow any of you for these generic shit.

>> No.6571596

>>6571574
It's all bait though.
Everything.
The discussions are just faggots pretending to play sides to just talk to each other.
The "retarded" posts are bait to get other "retards" to reply and they give each other (you)s.
Even this thread, all these posts.
Even the generals are bait and trolling.

It's all fake.
I am fake.
You are fake.

We are all faggots faggotting each other.

>> No.6571598

>>6571499
>"Anti-Ai people"
Fuck off lazy fucks

>> No.6571601
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>>6571596
Everything in this world is fake, we're naught but a simulation in the matrix.

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6571605

>>6571601
Exactly.
There is no escape.
Everyone just wants attention on themselves.
We might as well just enjoy the circus and throw pies at the clowns.

>> No.6571608
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6571608

>>6571441
man, i never even thought to check artstation sorting by latest. its like nobody even TRIES to study fundies or understands what fundies even are, and this is a website which is supposed to be for a portfolio to land a job.

are these all the "artists" that struggle to get any kind of money and then say that the market is dead / it's impossible etc? maybe they should be replaced by AI

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>>6571605

>> No.6571616

>>6571608
Most of the good artists deleted their art station. Now art station is becoming a deviant art 2, retard.

>> No.6571619

>>6571281
>Will quality and passion overcome technology and greedyness?

Normally I would say yes, but late zoomers and Gen Alpha have had their brains so fried by the internet that they behave just like algorithms themselves.

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>>6571612

>> No.6571622

>>6571616
my point is these people have no talent, so it doesn't matter what happens to their artistic "prospects" because they have none. as for the AI, why contain it? let it run into the streets.

>> No.6571627

>>6571622
idk, some of these guys had potential

>> No.6571629

>>6571619
it's beautiful that all the zoomies and below are so mind broken that they are selecting themselves out of the gene pool by becoming enbie / trans (especially the ratio of that in the art world is gigantic). goodbye, no reproduction of your genetics, troons. only those who can stay sane even with 24/7 propaganda will continue existing.

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>>6571620

>> No.6571654

>>6571622
No one's really trying to suppress AI. Just tag it properly, that's what we all ask

>> No.6571656

>>6571654
what will tagging it matter when it replaces all the jobs those people would want if they had a shred of actual talent or skill?

>> No.6571657

>>6571622
>>6571654
Same with nsfw and porn of all kinds, especially furry trash.
Just tag it properly instead of having people look at me weird because the feed on my phone who should be completely sfw, is littered with anime titties and straight up porn.

>> No.6571663

>>6571656
If you truly believe that, you would tag it properly

>> No.6571669
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6571669

>>6571663
to be clear, i don't 'tag' anything because i don't make digital art or ai art. it's just my observation. if AI replaces people making degenerate furry porn >>6571657 or garbage would-be "illustrators" like in >>6571608, who cares? the quality of the non ai artists in that pic is so low that i would prefer to just see none of it, regardless of how its tagged. all this anime inspired shit is soul destroying garbage which is lowering the human experience.

>> No.6571671

>>6571669
Just admit you wanted to be called an artist

>> No.6571677
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6571677

the only people making any money here are wacom tablet sellers.

>> No.6571679

>>6571671
ai "art" isn't art, it's illustration at best. which is worthless. illustrators being replaced by machines = good

>> No.6571681

>>6571463
those look like what npcs think is art or appealing
soulless

>> No.6571683

>>6571681
true, but it's what 99% of the so called "artists" wish they could draw like, apparently. >>6571677
it's like a snake eating its own tail, only gayer. a gay faggot fucking his own asshole then disappearing up it. that's what digital art is

>> No.6571697

>>6571281

>> No.6571796

>>6571310
>lol tech has always won
KJG died a millionaire, Robert Crumb can sell a sketchbook for over a mill, most world class artists like Katsuya Terada still draw traditionally and have soul.

>> No.6571824

>>6571486
Their last few movies flopped hard though.

>> No.6571880

>>6571441
Can't wait to hear what boogyman they are going to blame

>> No.6571930

>>6571310
win at what you nigger? producing a gorillion images of slop?

>> No.6571934

>>6571578
faggot

>> No.6572021

>>6571281
These guys always existed. I remember that one video of the guy paying an indian from fiverr to make his shitty bog-standard children's book, which he proceeded to sell on Amazon for more than he paid the indian.
These grifters will always make their cheaply made knock-offs, now they just don't need the cheap indian middle-man (rip indian art bros), but if they were so successful, why are they also making youtube videos?

>>6571302
Yeah, but actual artists will have to suffer along with them, and it's not like these guys are investing anything now, all their shit is probably print on demand or what have you.

>>6571441
I suppose any serious portfolio website will start enforcing "making of" videos along with the final picture. Artstation continues to allow AI because Epic bought them out, and they're pro AI, but they're too fucking stupid to realise enforcing some rules doesn't mean they're disqualifying the usefulness of AI.

>>6571608
Well... At least we can tell the majority of them aren't using AI, haha.
Man, art sites should have a "blam"(?) system like newgrounds does, to keep a certain aura of respectability and talent.

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>>6571677
Jokes on you kike, I own an iPad

>> No.6572323

>>6571824
Flop is an hyperbole but its true they are suffering from diminishing return;, its slow process but people do are getting tired

>> No.6574342

>>6571281
using technology still requires passion and quality to be successful. AI art can be good if it has a purpose.