/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6569389
niggers who masturbate to this shit should be euthanized

Anon, you can get this result by shooping some jap gravure models face on a 3d model's pic
Keep posting though i do not yet know if i'm right.
>>6569394
Silence, low-t transvestite.

>>6569394
I don't masturbate to it, I just want to know how to do it. Tell me and I promise to leave the board, otherwise you will have another AI poster on /ic/ to annoy you. Which is it going to be?

>>6569389
Okay, if he's using it how I imagine he does, it's a use case I can get behind (though I don't care much for the art).

My guess is he uses the 3d model and in-paints features (perhaps faces, or maybe things like folds in the skin, which I imagine are harder to do in 3D, the bikini and the hair coming from behind the neck are clearly AI), and perhaps generates the background too (notice the inconsistent pool edge).

It's possible he just outright uses a simple model pose and goes straight into img2img so he gets the pose he wants.

It's hard to know without seeing any of his assets.

>>6569391
Actually seeing more, I'm guessing it must be img2img - notice how the pores are different on the models breasts.

>>6569389
Probably depth2img or something woth ControlNet. Takes the 3d model and then generates a depth mask.

>>6569398
https://twitter.com/rebisdungeonR18/status/1619660060040515585/photo/2

>I did not use a real person as a model or i2i processing
On pixiv
>(*She is not a real person. Nor is she modeled after a specific person. Nor is she an alteration of someone else's artworks/photos.)

>created by combining 3D modeling, AI generation, and various other skills of mine!

>>6569403


This image seems to be a dead giveaway on what he might be doing. Look at how off the face is, no way that shit is 3D face. I do not have experience with AI so I want to ask you a question. Which AI do I use to do it? When you say this, I'm guessing AI has ability to only generate a specific part? Like do you make a blank face in 3D, then put that in an AI generation and it will automatically draw a face in the spot you tell it? or am I wrong. I haven't touched AI. I would greatly appreciate if you explain more so I can download the right software and try it myself

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/104927977

>(I didn't enter the prompt into the AI and pop it out, but I checked AI generation for the time being) (* I didn't use a real
person as a model or i2i processing)

Rebis is an actual hentai artist who does actually 3D model, so he might not be lying. He's been doing art for like 15+ years, so he might be telling the truth

>>6569407
Oh, I'm assuming he does editing and draw overs at the end. It's particularly obvious with the hands here : >>6569391

As for the AI he uses, it's almost certainly Stable Diffusion, since it's the only one that you can create you own custom data set for, as well use your own computer instead of having to do it only (might be the only one with img2img as well?)

There are also add-ons for stable diffusion that incorporate using 3D models that he might be using if he is indeed using it.

>>6569410
>having to do it only on their servers/ on the internet
whoop, missed that.

>>6569410
Thanks, never touched AI before. I'll try it. Thanks for the effortpost. Here's my discord if you don't mind adding. I'm going to spend all week trying this. A mentor would be nice.

>>6569398
>Silence, low-t transvestite.
ironic considering most trannies are both ainiggers and huge coomers

>>6569413

A990#4064 Forgot to post the discord tag

>go to pornpen.ai
>generate
>light photoshop
>profit

you should go to >>>/g/sdg if you want to learn how to use sd

this looks so fuckin stupid

Who the fuck is Rebis, and who is payeding for this? Reminds me of those horrible DAZ3D things people used to spam on porn forums.

>>6569389
go back to /g/ or neck yourself

>>6569414
Nigger, only trannies and lolifags do not like fertile women.
Trannies because they can't self-insert since they're 40 year old balding abominations and lolifags because they're mentally ill.
Usually a tranny is a lolifag as well since homosexuals reproduce by touching kids.

>>6569450
just be careful of the pipeline bro, you might end up like that troon canadian teacher

>>6569451
That was them faking it to play the system. They don't wear the womens clothing or giant tits at home.

Good Morning Sirs!!!
Is this the ayy lmao thread?

>>6569394
based

>>6569389

>>6569451
Bro, i don't care if AI or drawn, this is just fuel for my imagination and these retards give it out for free

>>6569450
I like fertile cunny, checkmate

>>6569453
>They don't wear the womens clothing or giant tits at home.
lol you are a retard defending a pedophile, there are pictures of him walking and skydiving with that shit

>>6569394
tpbp

>>6569469
That's an oxymoron, double checkmate.
You literally want to diddle kids because you think you can physically and mentally overpower them.
Typical tranny.

>>6569475
are you so low t you think you can't overpower 99% of women? sad! were I to apply your armchair psychology I'd say you're overcompensating for your homosexuality

>>6569477
why cant you admit you are a pedo? even your god dorontabi openly admits he's a pedophile

>>6569477
>children are 99% of women
Nigger, porn has rotten your brain so much you can't even do math.

You literally jerk off to a cutting board.
Do you get turned on by getting splinter on your dick?
Is Pinocchio your favorite hentai?

>>6569480
>children are 99% of women
reading comprehension is not your forte I see. I'm saying, confidently, unlike you limp-wristed homos, I can dominate the overwhelming majority of women, regardless of age.

>>6569484
> I can dominate the overwhelming majority of women, regardless of age.
sure fatty

>>6569484
And IQ is not something you have.
Older women will resist and make you exert more power, whereas you don't need to expend any power to be stronger as a kid.
And mentally, you can just groom them like you trannies do on your discord servers by telling 15 year old they are actually homotranssexual and they should send you pictures of themselves in women's clothes.
Such devious trickery and malicious intent can only come from a low-t individual aka a tranny.

If a woman can't feed a whole soccer team with one breast, and nurture 10 newborns with the others, while being able to smother an elephant with her thighs she's not a woman, she's a kid.

i fucking hate coombrains so much its unreal. what the fuck does this shit have to do with art? off yourself

>>6569492
>what does it have to do with art?
Literally fucking everything.

Your AI shit will never pass and neither will you

>>6569389
not art
not /ic/
go suck some programmer sock /g/ tranny dick

i can't wait to steal all those generated images
it has never been a better time to be an artist

>>6569490
a large breast size does not mean increased milk production, dude.

>>6569770
WHAT

>>6569389
Why not ask AI how to do it?

renAIssance .

>>6569389
WTF are these abominations?

>>6569389
controlnet the 3d model and use a photographic prompt. As in "photo of girl in bikini yadda yadda". And a model finetuned for realism. I mean it's quite obvious he doesn't use artist styles in the prompt. Controlnet keeps the proportions and contours of the model and the textures & rendering come from the prompt.
>>6569511
congrats you just "stole" a 3D model.

>>6569394
>euthanize 90% of the world's male population

>>6569785
>congrats you just "stole" a 3D model.
Wait, Isn't this how you're supposed to play the nsfw 3D artist game by stealing models and whole animations?

>>6569389
I was finally getting bored of beating my dick until this demon AIshit technology came out. This is not hard to do but this guy seems to put in some extra effort using 3D models and a lora or whatever that program DAZ3D people use to project 2D faces. This is just img2img with low denoise using a realism model. He also maybe trained a lora/hypernetwork to get the face and hair consistent. I don't know how to do that though cause my penis hasn't cared enough to go there. Or maybe the denoise is just lower. But this shit is stupid easy, you can skip the 3D models and just photoshoop liquify txt2img gens you've already proompted. Let everyone know how to do this shit it finally gets old and is not special. Then go draw afterwards.

>>6569844
all this bitchless word salad instead of just drawing
techtroons are pathetic

>>6569490
>posts kid with tits
Yeah you tell em

>>6569389
It's not difficult but if you've never touched stable diffusion before it can be challenging. Basically he uses whatever software to pose 3D models and render them, then takes that image and runs in through the AI img2img feature to render it again and at the end probably some compositing and touching up in photoshop or whatever software he uses.

>>6569389
>rebis
who is that?

>>6569890
was this ai art?

>>6569893
Hot off the presses, just made it

>>6569890
>>6569898
interesting how you manage to make the features the same in both images.

>>6569844
there's a thing called controlnet which lets you do img2img and keep it accurate without having to do that low denoise shit. makes it loads easier and gives more consistent results.
but of course regular img2img still works.

why is this off-topic thread still up?

>>6569928
Horny

>>6569928
ai is art

>>6569505
Damn that's a lot of crying, please post some more tears anon

>>6569511
Please do, draw a lot, and then I'll gladly train a LoRA on your artstyle

cat thread?

Good morning, sirs.

>>6569954
Joke's on you, i have no artstyle, i have all of them.
You literally can't stop me from drawing.
I'm fucking invincible.

>>6569970
Next roll will be my new twitter handle where i trace ai generated coom and pass it as my own

>>6569928
>why is this off-topic thread still up?
Art and art critique? Making AI work is a big issue in art.

>>6569389
controlnet is what he uses, it's an extension to the WebUI that allows feeding things such as a depth map into the AI to guide it, in retard terms controlnet allows you to send images of the 3D model into the AI to guide the generation

>>6569844
all this effort for basic bitch titcow weebshit images

>>6569973
It is done.
Now i'll upload something very original

>>6569989
you're autistic or some shit, here's a hint, no one gives a fuck about doodle traces of AI images...

>>6569991
>you're autistic
Extremely so but let's see how far i can push it.

>>6569993
btw make sure to like and follow to btfo the ai spammers

>>6569995
all you're doing is spamming shitty doodles into the void

>>6569997
Does it bother you?
Just like and follow instead of complaining, crabbo

>>6569492
99% of stable diffusion generals consist of these braindead morons who post the same fucking titcows over and over again

>>6569998
not really and I'm not making a twitter account, just saying that you're not doing anything
now that AI can shit out new images left and right, AI bros have no reason to give a fuck if someone poorly traces the AI output

>>6570000
But Anon, i'm doing something, i'm having fun.
Why does it bother you?

>>6570000
>>6569999
double quads
>>6570002
no just thought the whole idea is comical

>>6570003
Well, i'm always up for some laughs, some keks and some gaffs too.
At least until i get bored of it.

the joke is he omitted the part the AI actually did which is the rendering
he might as well just posed a 3D model himself.

>>6569979
they don't make any artwork, if you want to discuss prompt parameters, go to /g/

>>6570015
8 months of pure copium

>>6570020
from nerds larping as creatives

>>6570025
I dunno man, some of the best AI art is pretty good. Frankly, a few folks around here might be getting a little envious. The controlnet feature, new models and better software looks like it takes a lot of creativity.

meow

>>6570030
>AI art

>>6570030
>I dunno man
clearly

All this AI spam is making me appreciate gigantic boobs less.
I hate AI fags so much.

some serious envy going on. get a grip.

>>6569973
Is tracing ai art ethical?

>>6570097
Arguably more ethical than blatantly plagiarizing the work of others like a lot of nsfw artists do or photobashing with extra steps like AI does.

At least i am actually breathing new life into the work than just taking assets and mixing them together or just swapping the head of an anime character with another one.

MILK

>>6570097
Yes, especially if you are specifically tracing generations from Ai "artists". It's good to rip off of them and give them zero credit.

>>6570108
how is photobashing worse than tracing?

>>6570185
Especially with billions of different images

>>6570185
If you roll the dice, call a number and the dice lands on that number you called, did you influence the outcome or was it just luck?
That's what AI image generation is.
You call the prompts and eventually it will land on the prompts you called.

It isn't an expression of anything but rather randomly generated outcomes whose only value is based on virtue of being novel and randomly generated.

>>6570224
As for tracing; If one traces a picture 1:1, especially a picture that exists in the public eye and that might be traced back to their traced picture, they are indeed retarded.
Professionals trace all the time when they have to meet deadlines and can't be bothered to try to come up by themselves, that is why you see some pros getting caught for it, because they were too stupid to get caught.

With tracing, you have control of the outcome and do you seriously think professionals in the industry or self-employed have been not already tracing 3D models and AI generated pictures to pump out content and meet deadlines?

Art in general, is a big fucking joke.

>>6570224
That's not how it works but it also has nothing to do with my question.

>>6570238
>thats not how it works
Tomato Tomatoe. It's basically photobashing with extra steps and those extra steps being some "AI" or algorithm that has a library of pictures marked and tagged with lots and lots of keywords and when one inputs those keywords the "AI" picks out the pixel it needs to complete the search and generates an image, while generating random other outcomes to make the image seem genuinely novel.
Bro, programs are just a bunch of commands following some logic.
>it has nothing to do with the question
It do tho

just learn how to draw you retard

>>6570249
but learning to draw requires time and effort and someone else might be getting the followers, likes and money you COULD BE GETTING RIGHT NOW by providing sexual content to people who cannot produce that content by themselves for a variety of reasons.

Don't you want to get likes and money RIGHT NOW without doing anything?

mow

>>6570254
No, I like boobs and I want to draw boobs to express how much I like them, if other people like them the same way I do, they'll tap the like button, but I'd keep drawing them regardless.

>>6570224
What about training a lora for a particular style you have. And then filter your preliminar sketches through that trained AI so it turns your sketches into finished art.
To me that's the whole purpose to be interested in this tech. If that isn't possible (yet) then I wouldn't care. But I'm seeing AI art made in artistc styles absolutely consistent and clean enough with little to no aberrations. I think the tech is there already, at this point even if someone tells me that AI can't do that yet, I'm almost certain that it really can. Problem is that you need to invest in a good GPU to seriously test this.

>>6569389
why isn't this thread banned yet?

>>6570268
>why isn't this thread banned yet?
People are warming up to AI.

>>6570268
my playground for catposting

>>6570271
no, the mod is asleep. Machine learning image generators are not artwork/critique and belong to tech boards, not here.

>>6570262
Most people don't think like that.
The sarcasm should be obvious tho
>>6570264
And what is the point in drawing then?
You automatized a process for the sake of just pumping out content, for the sake of not doing the work.
I mean, do what you want but you're only shooting yourself in the foot with this.
Will you appreciate what you have if you can just produce whatever without any effort at all? Will other people appreciate what you do or will you just be another artmonkey?

With the process, you learn how things are done and how they really work, you come to an higher understanding and reach more insight, which should be the ultimate goal for anyone for that matter. Trough more understanding and insight, you might reach a summit no one else has reached yet or truly find bliss in what you do.

Art is not "producing content", but rather self-discovery, which others might take part in in seeing what you create, and learning to appreciate the expressions of others as well.
Might come off corny or cringey, but it is what it is.
>>6570268
Thread has been turning out nice ngl

>>6570275
Some is good, some is bad. Just like the stuff on /ic. Lot of pics on /ic aren't art by esthetic measures. Can you post some of your work so we can compare with AI?

>>6570277
>Will you appreciate what you have

I genuinely believe that a lot of people have never felt pride for creating something in their life and now that AI exists they think that being an artist is just about the finished product and this saddens me. Now more than ever we need more artists, more creators, more stories, no matter the skill level. People think that the small rush of dopamine you can get when the AI gives you a decent picture is comparable to actually creating something. I don't want to be a doomer, but its so sad. I like humans.

>>6570279
that's not what I'm talking about??? I'm just saying that discussing about image generators is not artwork/critique and shouldn't belong on this board. The aesthetics don't matter.

>>6570285
Just let 'em have an AI art general on /ic and you cost post your insightful, brilliant, deeply philosophical mini essays once a week or so.

>>6570279
can you fuck off back to your techrat's nest? or are you going to continue making fake equivalencies?

>>6570291
?

>>6570291
>Just let 'em have an AI art genera
lolno, they literally have every other fucking board

>>6570298
>lolno, they literally have every other fucking board
Every new art form meets hostillity.

>the /ic/ meme thread got deleted but not this
The state of /ic/

chuu~

>>6570285
>never felt pride for creating something in their life
This is true for most artists as well.
Some just see art a means to receive attention or earn money, justifying it as a "job" or attaching being an artist to their identity and clutching unto it, ultimately just poisoning the hobby sphere, industry and themselves as well. Some take too much pride in it where they refuse to truly look at their work and believe that anything they create is perfect.
>People think that the small rush of dopamine you can get when the AI gives you a decent picture is comparable to actually creating something
Because consuming is easy and rewards you instantly, creating is a net negative; you get more bad feelings than good ones.
It's the same as why anons here are mostly very hostile with their posts, such as just throwing insults and getting mad at anyone that posts more than one sentence because it reminds that they're not smart and insulting someone gives them the same dopamine rush as watching porn.
>I don't want to be a doomer, but its so sad. I like humans.
I don't disagree but most people are fucking retarded tho
>>6570303
>every single meme thread has the same exact posts as the last thread
I wonder why.

>>6570302
make up your mind, is it a tool or a new art form? those two are mutually exclusive. I'd add that nothing new to the output has been introduced so you're just a subset of illustration...if we could give you the credit of it being art and not just pictures.>>6570313
>creating is a net negative
I suggest you neck yourself...or are you saying AI isn't creative? make up your damn mind
I'm sure you felt really smart typing all this. you're not in any way above any other faggot in this thread.

>>6570318
>Because consuming is easy and rewards you instantly, creating is a net negative;
>--you get more bad feelings than good ones.--
That was easily understandable tho

>such as just throwing insults and getting mad at anyone that posts more than one sentence because it reminds that they're not smart and insulting someone gives them the same dopamine rush as watching porn.
I am smart though
My IQ is literally 200

>>6569389
Rebis is a prolific enough artist that he can make a model of his own idealized style. This is a level very few other artists are able to achieve, some exceptions including asanagi.

AI is actually a supercharger that most artists, like your /beg/ ass, should not approach. You gotta keep grinding those fundies, and only after a lot of effort will you be able to incorporate AI effectively.

>>6570277
Ok, I see what you mean. But I think we are talking from different lanes in the highway. Yeah my question is more a technical one not moral or ehical. A finished piece for me tooks months, maybe I'm lazy, I dunno but it feels months. It's tiring, it becomes a torture, when a have a pile of sketches on the side, and I want to do more sketches, new things, every second, one after another. That's what I want, but I have to stop that, to do this robotic shit of doing the linework, clean, base color, lightning, shadow, effects, gradients, for just one piece when all I want is to keep drawing new stuff. I ended up HATING IT. I FUCKING HATE IT.
In the past I dreamed about it, can you imagine a software that finish the work for you? I thought it was impossible, that it was just absolutely out of reach. At this point I could fucking care less about the morals, all I want is this thing to do the fucking job I hate so I can do what I want. I just want to draw.
Artists should not worry about this, anyone who understands anatomy, color, perspective, angle, scene construction, that has already a gallery of images on his mind, about how things are and function, he already has an advantage over random tech guys using the same software. If a render comes all fucked up with ten fingers, the leg from a midget or whatever, to you, it is nothing to fix it in PS in a couple of minutes. For the other guys that's a total nightmare. They won't be able to fix that if the software can't come up with the right infinite tries of random numbers on the dice as you said. I agree with that analogy.


NOW, this has NOTHING TO DO, with traditional art, oil paint or whatever medium, sculpture, etc. That is high art, real things made to be touched and experienced irl. Those people got nothing to worry about this tech.

>>6570339
>I want to do more sketches, new things, every second, one after another. That's what I want, but I have to stop that, to do this robotic shit of doing the linework, clean, base color, lightning, shadow, effects, gradients, for just one piece when all I want is to keep drawing new stuff.
Then just do new pieces until you are truly satisfied.
The "serious work", you either hate it or love it, there is no inbetween. It's for everyone like this. What you can try is to make your workload less or learn to at least appreciate the serious robotic work for the results it will give you.
Sometimes, the more you do the thing, the less taxing it might become much like how a beginner might do a work in 4 hours but then only do it in 1 hour once they get better and do it more.

You hate it and it makes you miserable, so change your approach to the art you do. As i said, art is self-discovery and self discovery doesn't have to follow any preset rules on how to create art. And see, you discovered that you fucking hate doing that thing.
Maybe you want your art to look a certain way, but try to do what you actually want and then start to build up from there.
That is more or less how art styles are developed.

Personally, i find the serious work to be less annoying and tedious the more i do it. I forced and still do force myself though ngl but i aim to and think on how to get faster and better at it.

With AI you are just skipping the process though, but it is not something you should do.
Think it like muscle training, sure you can take steroids but what about the consequences? Your balls will shrink, it fucks up your hormonal balance and you will be dependent on the juice or your muscles will start deflating the next day.
That's the same with drawing; it's a muscle and the more you use it, the stronger it becomes and it won't deflate the next day.
It's a shitty platitude but it's not nonsensical.

>>6570324
You act like the majority of people trying to use AI ML and push it aren't people who haven't actually tried touching drawing or gave up on it because it was too hard

>>6569786
Crime would go down.

>>6569389
you know for much you pa/g/eets fa/g/s hype up AI, near all if it sounds like you want to use just Photoshop. Or, it sounds like you think you came upon an undiscovered thing
>basically just tracing over references
>doesn't know if the people got C&D for it or sued, and even if they won going to court in the first place actually costs time and money
>generating "AI" pictures of others work vil replace artists (is just photo bashing)
>entire thread show hyper realistic uncanny softcore porn
>spams images as an answer
>pics look like bad mo cap
>pic related what it reminds of
>will prob be back spamming the general after getting told to fuck off
>we have /gd/ and /3/ that this type of stuff could fall into (chooses /ic/)

>>6570363
Thanks anon, very kind and thoughtful wording. Unfortunely I'm past all that path curve you described. I tried all that, trying to psyche myself into the eternal task ahead, to the point of mental break. It could be something simple, the fucking dead dog again, the lady says he looks sad try this other picture, you done it a thounsand times, but you just can't do it one more time. I want to draw in my skethcbook, maybe I spend the whole day drawing in it, but I don't sell sketchbooks, people doesn't buy random drawings, and the fucking dog is there waiting to be redone. Then you say fuck it, I could be teaching, then you are out there again wasting even more time commuting getting even more miserable. When all I want to do is fucking draw, is that too much to ask? It is. Life sucks.

The dog portrait example is obsolete, people has been turning themselves and their pets into artworks with smartphone filters since YEARS now. This AI shit is real, is going to have a huge impact in the art scene. So artists should wise up. I see it as a tool that could help me a lot. This is work, you're doing stuff for people not for you. I could sketch the idea in ten minutes, that's it. But I can be tied to that shit a whole week, tortured by some random bullshit, some building with a park and random people, again and again, and again, and see how life passes doing that "souless" crap for someone who will never show it to anyone anyways. This tech, if it works, will save minds, and lives, I can guarantee it.

>>6569890
Are the 3d models just generic mannequins and the AI fills the rest or is it like "buff guy" and "big titty lady"

>>6570410
At that point, you're not actually in love with the drawing portion of anything right. This is basically automation and you just want the finished work to sell off and maximize efficiency for profit for your customers. It's fine to say that but you can't unironically try to say the process of art is "souless" when you're trying to do exactly that. This level of dissonance is astonishing almost as much as when I hear AI art models learning exactly the same way as humans.

>>6570233
only thing about that is do you know how much of it was in house assets or pre paid general assets that certain companies have like Shutterstock
because we source listing for this type of stuff for people who are sue happy

>>6570382
>people who (...) gave up on it because it was too hard
Those are the overwhelming majority of the AIfags you see around here. Ironically for how much they hope AI will help them, they're fucking themselves over even harder. It's kinda like how, say, an athlete doping will do even better but some rando doping will do okay but he'll more than likely fuck himself over in pursuit of quick results.

>>6570415
Maybe you're right. I like to draw random stuff, much in the style of that dude Steven Zapata. It's not "marketable" stuff. I LOVE THAT, I could do that night and day no sleep no food, I would get lost doing that, just drawing "art", but that's not how life works. That's just madness. Even Zapata himself admits that that random stuff he draws in the videos are just unsellable stuff, his paid work is totally different, just ordinary stuff, or teaching. So yeah, you should be right in regard to my need to automatize THE SHIT out of this crap. It's like being in a fucking hole with broken tubes flooding and no tools at all. I would be screaming down there. That's what's happening, to a lot of people, I reckon... It will happen. Most of this sort of work will be automated because the artists themselves will seek that solution.

why would you ever want to make this garbage

>>6570410
But it's one thing you're not thinking about; What makes you think only artists will have exclusive access to AI that it will save artists?
If anything, now everyone can make portraits of their pets.

This is why you don't go into the arts for money. Being an artist doesn't pay and you'd be stupid to go into the arts to make a living unless you can actually live with doing work that you're not passionate about or if you know people.

Again, art is self-discovery; figure out what you want to draw and pursue it
Making any money with it is never a given.
>>6570430
That's besides the point.
What i was pointing at is that tracing, even when it's demonized so much, is standard practice, even by professionals who have been drawing for years and work for big companies, even putting their name and reputation on it.
There could be a lot of well known artists who just traced their way into success, but they were smart enough to not get caught even by the most turbo autistic art connoisseur ever.
What we know is not much, but what we do not know is a lot more or some shit like that.

If AI wasn't unveiled and released to the public, some people would probably attempt to get a career out of it or become known as artists and they would have gotten away with it.
I mean, some are trying even now to be "artists" but as many regular artists, they are enamored with the idea of being a creative coupled with some abstract wishful thinking of how artists live, instead of having the innate urge to create for the sake of creation.

>>6570030
Doesn't take a lot of creativity - takes a bit of time and some miniscule technical insight to operate.
How do I know? I've been sculpting, retopologising, rigging and animating in blender for 14+ years on top of painting and drawing for two decades. So I know this tech is a cakewalk compared to 3D and illustration.

Don't confuse this shit with creativity. We're not jealous of you. If anything we're disillusioned to the greed of megacorporations and the willingness and ignorance of the masses.
We're being faced with the reality of human creativity becoming a worthless pursuit. Seeing illustrations become a valueless commodity and the professions future a race to the bottom.
If we didn't have this burning desire to create we would just adopt this "AI workflow" and call it a day.
In no time I would be better than all of you prompters (which is an objective FACT) yet I would be miserable.
Something you would never understand.
It's like being a master chef and having to switch to being a hot dog vendor.
No thanks.
Anyways I won't be lurking this thread to wait for replies and engage in some endless back-and-fourth.
So go ahead with your refutations, ad-hominems and strawmans. My text here is nothing but the truth regardless of what you technerds need to tell yourselves.

>>6571209
Don't bump the thread you fucking falseflagger.

dam this shits still up?

>>6570025
>>6570033
>>6570034
>>6571209
>muh creativity
half of people want to draw anime boobies, that's what twitter "art" is about, alternatively fotm meme comic garbage, there's nothing creative when you draw some fortnite furry fucking something

you can shove the creatividad argument up your ass

>>6571218
t.uncreative golem

>>6571250
if you think that drawing a fotm character sucking cock with some reddit tier pun in a speech bubble is creative then you're not creative

>>6571209
>we're disillusioned to the greed of megacorporations and the willingness and ignorance of the masses.
>We're being faced with the reality of human creativity becoming a worthless pursuit. Seeing illustrations become a valueless commodity and the professions future a race to the bottom.
>If we didn't have this burning desire to create we would just adopt this "AI workflow" and call it a day.
>It's like being a master chef and having to switch to being a hot dog vendor
>My text here is nothing but the truth
I came.

>>6570412
Either can work but posing a good model is basically just using the AI as a renderer so you can get very clean results that need minimal touching up. The oposite of that is using just a simple skeleton for pose detection with controlnet and letting the AI interpret it making the reults way less predictable and more likely to need extensive cleaning/reworking.

>>6571209
God Damn

>>6570033
>>AI art

>>6569389
this legitimately grosses me out, whats with all the folds and grease... The face on the second picture is a fucking nightmare too

>>6571209
If you don't think you can be creative with any tool in any medium, you're really not as creative as you think you are.

>>6569389
Just my two cents since I've dabbled in Honey Select. I would say that first he probably trained his AI with shots from Honey Select (since you can personalize your AI), then he uses that trained AI to make a more dynamic Honey Select shots.

If you didn't know, working with Honey Select models is not that easy. They're particularly stiff, you can't make them do dynamic poses - you can't make the bodies bend naturally, and the lighting is very hard to get done right (you had to adjust the lights manually like a camera). But his new AI technique seems to have taken care of all those problems... the lighting and the reflections are impeccable. The facial expressions looks significantly better and more natural. I'm honestly jelly, since I do have the HS program but have no knowledge of AI to recreate it to like this. At this point, he has the power to create flawless and dynamic 3D modelling with little effort.

>>6569394
3PBP

>>6569389
Looks like you took a still from one of those shit western porn games made in Daz and upscaled it.

Fucking Christ, coomers have horrifically low standards.

>>6569389
It looks as if the dude took a still from one of those shit western porn games made in Daz and upscaled it.

Fucking Christ, coomers have horrifically low standards.

>>6572214
neither a tool nor a medium, neck yourself

>>6572019

>>6572417
>sovl-mogged by an edit made in paint
AISISTERS... NOT LIKE THIS...

Jannies do your fucking work already

>>6572433

>>6572214
Imagine telling a chef, "if you're not happy working this hotdog cart, you're not a real chef"

>>6569394
Make it the first post.
FPBP

>>6570275
They don't belong there either kek

>>6570272
Based, now that's the kind of cat posting I can get behind

Alrigth OP, I'll give it a shot, I have nothing better to do
Best bet is what this guy said
>>6569785
I'll try that, and use this random render

>>6575977
I decided to try it too, seems to work as expected.

>>6576005
>>6575977
No it's not, I finded out
it's even more stupid
It's an hyperrealistic render, with a plastic render on top, and then just layer ajustments on contrast
this took me 10min and 2-3 generations, but I guess if I put an hour or two into farming perfect ligths it I can get the exact same result as OP

>>6576023
oh I wasn't trying to get the exact same result as OP, it doesn't look good to me.

>>6570401
You made me remember this fucking shit.

>>6569450
you have a terminal stage 4chanbrain

>>6569511
Most based take. You can either cry about 3D/Ai niggers, or you can steal from them and convert their abominations to SOVL.
>picrel, my ref board for a recent comm.

>>6576023
is that picture on the left also AI generated art? looks very realistic

>>6569389
I thought AI was all about the democratization of art and making it so everyone can create beautiful pieces? But these big AI Promptlords want to keep their process a secret so that what they make is special. Kinda weird...

Who are the most popular AI "artists" who don't peddle pure coom? I want to check them out of pure curiosity.

>>6578626
On Twitter, I mean.

>>6570401

>Ai troones can't even tell something is photobashed, likely because the two concepts are identically the same, just one is done by an algorithm and the other an NPC
Sad.

>>6571218
>Muh twitter

>>6578141
Honestly, this. Nothing they generated is theirs so it's public domain.

>>6569391
What's wrong with your faaaaaaaaaaaaace.

>>6569389
>>6569391
>>6569393

>>6569389
Nowadays, you can get a Normal map (a 2d image that shows the orientation of a 3d surface) of any 3d model in any pose of your choice then use Stable Diffusion to create an image with that normal map as the basis using ControlNet. It's like "rendering" a 3d model but with AI rather than traditional graphics simulations.

Check out the generals on /g/if your interested.

Or just learn to draw, it's harder but more rewarding unless all you want to make is coom material

>>6569407
If he's using 3d modelling then it's probably Stable Diffusion +ControlNet

>>6580494
Yeah, even some simple skeletons can get decent results

>>6569407
>This image seems to be a dead giveaway on what he might be doing. Look at how off the face is, no way that shit is 3D face.

Doing img2img on 3D even with controlnet can warp stuff, especially if it's at an uncommon angle. It absolutely looks to me like there was a 3D model at the base. The mouth, nose and eyes are roughly at the correct places but they seem slightly off angle which to me tells that an AI put them there but didn't truly understand how to rotate eyes etc. for that exact angle.
I see that exact thing all the time when I try this shit myself.

>>6580494
>>6580551
that is mind-numbingly boring.

>>6580560
It is what it is, some poeple will probably enjoy the workflow and you can't deny the results

>>6580469

>>6580570
>workflow
there's none
>results
garbage, you are a retard dazzled by hyper-realism with nonsensical lighting. fuck you for bumping this abortion of a thread yet again

>>6580589
Okay, if you say so

>>6580595
good morning sirs

>>6580560
This is what happens when consoomers are also the ones making the product, it's almost like the process of learning the craft is what develops taste in the first place.

>>6569417
>pornpen.ai
>server is overloaded
>pay
>tell others to fall for the same scam

>>6569890
>>6569898

How do you keep the consistent art style?

Could you do a comic, or animation this way?

>>6570401
>basically just tracing over references

>generating "AI" pictures of others work will replace artists (is just photo bashing)

Hello Sir.

>>6580692
left

>Rebis
I haven't followed him for some years, but back when most of you were in elementary school I was already reading his stuff, and watched him getting better at every doujin slowly and painfully
The fact he just threw away everything with this shit fills me with sadness.

>>6569389
Good morning, sirs

>>6580719
Who cares, the hack has been tracing 3D models for a few years now, pumping out AIslop was a no-brainer for the fag.

What a shit of a thread.

I have started using AI art in my workflow

Is there problems?

>>6580719
He's just experimenting with new tech, what exactly did he throw away? Did all his skills instantly boil away because he clicked on "generate"? Maybe if you guys weren't so autistically worried about tainting your artistic purity, you could spend a few hours proompting and realize there's nothing to worry about.

>>6580748
said your piece? okay, now go back.

>>6580684
by using the same model, you could do a comic but it wouldn't be easy, animation not quite but you can esentially automatically rotoscope reference footage but that's even harder.

>>6580746
If you're using it to generate references (ie, averaging your favorite artists into one single style, making quick variations of a pose etc.) but still do the entire creative process yourself, not really a problem as long as you keep the generated results to yourself or to a niche without the intention of profiting from it in any form (exposure, monetary etc.)

If you're using it to generate some quick assets (accessories, backgrounds, random logos etc.) to speed up your craft, not much of a problem as long as it matches your work and you still carry the creative process yourself. You are more or less just incorporating an updated method of photobashing onto your work.

If you're using it to generate an entire piece and pass it off as the finished work, problems starts to arise. The mildest range from feeding it with your very own training data, or let it finish a sketch you made. The worst probably using another artist's works as your training data. You did not make those works. You have no authorship over those even with minor touchups. You are merely the assistant to the AI.

>>6569898
Still has hand problems lamao

>>6580746

depends. I'll need to see your work to see if you're bullshitting about using is as just a part of your work. also are you being transparent about your ai usage on your social media anon? are you?

>>6569901

try using it and you'll realise the limitation of this collage maker. Same face just means the model was trained on that face. all he have to do is put the prompt and it will trigger that face. I know because I've trained my own face.

>>6569954

what a sad little fucker

>>6578626
(there aren't any, they're all interchangeable because they all use the same 2 funny garbage generators with slight modifications)

>>6581359
cry

>>6569407
>how he does it
what he means by using "3d models" it's simply that he poses a manequin and puts it on controlnet to get the pose he wants. >>6580551
Then he proceeds like this
>he makes various generations
>it can be the body of one good generation, the face of another one, or the background of another.
let me explain this, do you see how the face doesn't match the body, how around the character there is a shitty cleanup job to make it transparent? And the background too is another image? Basically he photobashes different pictures.
Then you put into photoshop and add some fixes and atmosphere, like the shadow in the angles, or the text bubbles, or inpaint it a bit, (but he doesn't really paint it over a lot, or he would have fixed that horrible knee, that missing pinkie part and put a shadow that the head in that position is supposed to do).
Lastly I don't believe he doesn't use img2img in the process at all. I think he means that he doesn't img2img real people, but for getting those hands for example if inpaint doesn't work, then you roughly paint them yourself, and then img2img the generation.
It's a simple process really, picrel is something I did messing up on /g/, I bet that what he does is similiar to it

>>6581657
ah I forgot to add, for getting the same character you just make a lora, even if in the case of OP image the girl is so generic that any realistic model havy trained on asians will get the same results, search koreandolllikeness or japanesedolllikeness for similiar loras

>>6581657
gay as fuck, fuck off back to /g/ and take OP with you...and the janny unable to purge this abortion of a thread.