/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>Favorite mangaka was 27 when he released his best manga
>I'm 24 now
There is still hope bros...

If krenz is so good, why he teaches instead of drawing?

>>6548403
You better be making manga then.

But also you can release you best work when you are fourty anon just keep going and stop falling for the under twenty meme. It's just made to discourage you.

>>6548412
So he can stunt these begs

What brush do you use for quick drawings?

>>6548450
hard square brush 80% opacity

>>6548450
1px brush with pressure sensitive opacity.

what do you guys use for pose references

>>6548455
Images and posing programs

>>6548403
Jack Nicholson didn't get his first Oscar nomination until he was 32, and it wasn't until he was in his 40s when he hit it big with The Shining

You have an entire life of drawing ahead of you

>>6548459
This. If only this board weren't filled with doomposting...

>>6548465
I honestly believe this board should be renamed to Artwork instead of Artwork/Critique
Too many fucking retards take advantage of critique to shit on someone they have a personal vendetta against, and if you defend them you're either that person or some other boogeyman they invent in their minds. This sort of garbagey behaviour should be a bannable offense
This very general is proof that if you fucking dare draw and draw well on top of that, you'll eventually get someone with a chip on their shoulder against you talking shit about the very good pieces you make

>>6548513
/i/ is artwork only and you can see by yourself the quality of the work posted there, the problem with /ic/ is that mods don't give a fuck about the board and let schizos and trolls ride their dicks, why do you think mikufag has been trolling for +10 years?

>>6548455
gravures

>>6548621
thats what im using right now but it takes an hour until i find something good on ehentai

>>6548403
Lmao just take the safe route by wageslaving at a tech company with good benefits and work-life balance. Grow up already faggot accept the fact 99% of us will never make it in this industry. Work to live not live to work.

>>6548640
>ehentai
anon...
https://pastebin.com/1bSZ4sCb

>>6548513
Agreed,experienced this behavior on a general thread. Some anon posted his work, then some schizo got very butthurt and started to throw shit on it by calling traced. When called out by other anons, he started to call everyone a tranny kek
He also threw shit on other works and went to other threads to do the same thing. He probably got a janny slap for derailing threads because I haven't seen him in a while.

>>6548659
Nta but thanks dude

I tried that perfect trace method of practicing line control, for some reason my copy feels a lot more crisp than the original. Is this just because it's digital or do I need to fiddle with the brush settings?

Here is the original, maybe I need to add the rendering to make it appear softer.

>>6548386
i wanted to ask to the guys who are trying to draw anime faces, can you draw a realistic good looking face? and no im not trying trolling or being condescending
legic question
im having problems with anime faces, but i realized i have problems with faces overall, so i think is a problem with understanding the subject other than understanding stylization

>>6549089
>im having problems with anime faces,
basically you don't know how to simplify, check hide channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_aG0J0pwSo&list=PLTY4AtphBe8Oq5Oaa7inP2_cvtmoEBG7Z&index=5&ab_channel=hidechannel%E3%80%90%E9%A1%94%E3%81%A8%E4%BD%93%E3%81%AE%E6%8F%8F%E3%81%8D%E6%96%B9%E8%AC%9B%E5%BA%A7%E3%80%91

also post your anime heads

>>6548403
Geez. Stop caring about age.
There was never an age limit to learning

>>6548659
Any websites for young girls, nothing illegal

>>6549016
Which is this perfect trace method?

>>6549135
>young girls
15y-18y? or 8y-12y?

>>6549096
heres the last stuff i drew
and thanks for the videos, pretty useful

>>6549152
You grab a completed piece and trace over the lines except you don't do it mindlessly like a pre-/beg/, you pay attention to the stroke quality and line weight as you go so it matches up to the original's as much as possible. It's a pure technical exercise you can use to train your muscular accuracy and also learn how the original artist used line weight/brush type to achieve a certain feel to his/her art.
>>6549153
Any 12-16 range? 16 is almost close to 18 so there's no issue finding good refs at that range. Trying to draw younger characters without making them look like babyface slapped onto miniature adult body.

>>6549162
>. Trying to draw younger characters without making them look like babyface slapped onto miniature adult body.
video
https://xidol.net/210891-3/

>>6549089
Not sure if you are talking about me, but learnign the anatomy of the face/head is very helpful when it comes to stylizing, you don't need to go that hard on it tho, you should be able to understand the major planes like eyesocjkets' nose bridge, cheekbones etc.. these are pretty easy too, once you know that learning what is being stylized is way more easy. i cant draw realistic shit tho.

i.e on the right the chibi looks like 2 balls overlapping, but is actually a bit more complex if you can understand what's being stylized: nose bridge almost flat, small nose , no chin, small cheekbone, eyesockets almost flat. If you know that, drawing that face from diffrent angles is much more easy and it looks more realistic not in a stylized way. the one at the botton is like my default anime/loomis head not really the style i want but just as a default style that is easy to understand and practice but it still follows the real human anatomy, but stylized , it doesnt look that hard/complex but actually theres a lot going on(redline).

I stole the picture in the left(green aired girl), as you can see theres some pretty obvious mistakes there, and theres other heads in the same angle but the style is different but both still follow the basic anatomy shit, you can see the eyesockets form, the way the draw the corner in the left eye to give that depth, curve of the cheekbone and the chin bulge and the angle of the eyes and if you want to go further the orientation and form of the eyelashes, eyebrows distance in relation to the eyes.Those things are more easier to spot/understand with some real anatomy bg.

I can't draw faces for absolute crap...

How to do this traditionally? Can't do wack on my computer most of the time.

>>6549250
uguuuuh

>>6549250
Hey you. Yeah, you there, FAGGOT.
I want your blog. Those undershots can definitely be better(mouth too low, eye misaligned) but those top faces are cute
ブログをお願いします!

wip of my study just looking to learn to shade like weee

>>6548450
soft round with 70% opacity

>>6549449
the simplification method reminds me of the chinese/taiwanese(?) dude

>>6548659
i kneel

>>6549556
katako? i'm trying to learn it but I still have no idea how his pelvis lines work

>>6549577
He translated his explanation for his pelvis simplification on his fanbox but it's just a simplification of the pelvic bone basically.

>>6549449
Finally someone doing it right. It’s the fastest way especially if you combine this method with recalling.

>>6549607
How long do you wait until trying to "recall"?

>>6549612
24 hours is perfect. But even 1-4 hours are enough to trigger your long-term memory

>>6549581
is it one of these sheets? i still don't really understand it

>>6549780
Does this exist in a higher resolution?

>>6549833
subscribe to his fanbox

>>6549780
The one that starts with this.

Anime guys, what the people on other boards mean by construction? What does it mean to us? Do I need fucking bricks and concrete to draw?

>>6549780
I like how he is applying michael hampton's construction style to anime and while making it erotic at the same time.

>>6549850
Have you got a link??

>draw a sketch
>"huh its okay but not great"
>draw a new sketch
>"huh its okay but not great"
>draw a new sketch
>"huh its okay but not great"

>>6549958
I don't know how to proportion. Everywhere I look I do not trust what others say about anime girls.

>>6549341
now draw her naked please

practice

>>6550021
good job anon, keep going

Trying to brute force myself off my skill plateau

>>6549881
Who's the artist for the original?

>>6549451
Working more on it

please help i can't get the paint tool sai brush on csp, what do i do? it does the sharpness, blending and everything exactly the way i want.

Is there a template of it somewhere? Please i need it.

>>6549341
>>6549341
She needs some rape correction

>>6550048
learn how to draw cubes

cant get the brush right

>>6548659
link died. reup would be very much appreciated <3

>>6549850
>>6549858
shit, time to pay up i guess

>>6549577
>>6549888
i'm retarded he's takako on fanbox

>>6550053
Finished and learned so much from this and have new perspective on approaching rendering.

being able to copy 1:1 without guidelines feels really good
grind random squiggles really pay off
i kneel krenz

>>6550489
Finished piece

>>6550490
so from what i understand, this helps you with your accuracy, but how do you use it for things like clothes, body proportions and stylization of different elements that may not exist to copy from?

>>6550535
>how do you use it for things like clothes, body proportions and stylization of different elements that may not exist to copy from?
learn your fundies and stylize lol

>>6550537

more animey faces, more animesque this time
% of japanese anime?

>>6550644
100%, i wouldn't know any better if you got this from some jp twitter acc or not

>>6550154
holy based

>>6550644
do you have a blog? please i want to follow you

>>6550156
What is the benefit of that? I am pretty good at those already.

>>6550644
I'll give it an ugh/ugh, ugh job

>>6550492
Cantaloupe saggy booba. Me likes.
>
>>anime sisters, im literally shaking rn
>>>picrel

practice attempt
i hate all the attempts with cleaner lineart which i know is because the sketch is sloppier/more ambiguous but i don't know how to translate a sketch that looks okay into cleaner art that does

what did i do wrong?

I feel like cosplay sets are the best type of reference when drawing a character. Where do artists go to find references? I know the coomers can just go to pornhub or download JAV, but for regular pieces there doesn't seem to be any centralised place.

>>6550789
her hair needs a gradient top a little darker bottom a little lighter there has to be very smooth blending between the colors the shadows looks like they might be on a dodge layer the eyes need a few more layers with low opacity very soft brush I don't know if you're trying to copy the skin but the color is way off

It's over for me, I realised after grinding a year of fundies I don't actually have anything I want to draw or make. I'm totally washed up.

>>6550733
>I am pretty good at those already.
py cubes

>>6550805
but you clearly like depressed anime girls holding guns to their heads anon draw that

>>6550799
thank you but I'm sorry i dont understand what you mean by
>her hair needs a gradient top a little darker bottom a little lighter

Do i use the gradient tool to make the top of the head darker and bottom lighter?
Do i use an airbrush instead or the gradient tool
Do i make the top darker even if light is at the top? and not the bottom?

>>6550851
you can achieve a similar result with whatever tool you like to use but you have to understand the colors they're using her hair is even blue in some parts I'd say start with gradient tool then airbrush the different colors into place

why do you people never draw non-femboy men? Are you afraid of having to actually learn anatomy?

>>6550891
I only draw anime girls right now but I don't like fag stuff so I don't draw traps.

>>6550776
i think middle is the best (left is too thick for me)
you could add a little more to the lines where its supposed to be darker or where lines intersect

>>6550891
Why would I draw something I wouldn't fuck?

>>6550898
Not fucking men is unmanly. The more muscles, the merrier.

>>6550049
@noland0707 on twitter.

there's something wrong with how the torso rotate but i can't fix it, help.

>>6551035
Her head looks like >this

>>6550860
thanks

>>6551035
that head

>>6551035
It looks great. The biggest issues holding your drawing back are the hair not conforming to the skull, the titties flattening due to nipple placement, and calf is too small for the thigh.

If you just fixed the hair so that it fit her head, it immediately looks much better. Right now you are giving her blow-dry 80s hair. I tend to have this problem myself sometimes and have to correct myself. Remember to fit the hair to the skull, it doesn’t float way up over. Now I know you want long ass subway titties but we still need to make sure they have that meaty volume, so remember to place nipples accordingly. Utilize cross-contour lines to get a feel for the tit-form if you must but do them justice! Lastly, minor gripes over the calves not being large enough for the thighs and the hips not being wide enough for thighs either, so keep your eye on the proportions - make things fit proportionally.

>>6550896
damn, that looks a lot better. thanks anon.

>>6551035
she looks like shes leaning rather than rotating her torso, tits look like deflated bags... you need more loomis in your life... ughhhhhhh...........

>>6551035
Copy more anime

>>6551416
nta but can you link me to a good source for proportioning my anime girls?

>>6551429
Go to your favorite artist's pixiv page and study his proportions. Were you expecting a loomis chart? ngmi.

>>6551429
Figure drawing and learning anatomy will help you with your proportions.

>>6551429
https://twitter.com/kr_ohoshisama/status/1587924211808423937?s=46&t=o4H19-bc-dCZh6aWZWE2UA

https://twitter.com/jiryu50610218?s=21&t=0BwyRF4kDKLPsbGpSOM1ag

https://twitter.com/cyjalway?s=21&t=o4H19-bc-dCZh6aWZWE2UA

>>6551410
>>6551461
>>6551443
Don’t listen to these westerners, just copy more anime

>>6551471
>Don’t listen to these westerners, just copy more anime
LOL

>>6550644
81% filipino

>>6551439
>Were you expecting a loomis chart?
yes.

>>6551285
>>6551311
>>6551410
>>6551416
Thanks for the help and critique guys. In my defense i drew the tits like that because i want to make her in supposedly turning pose and so the gravity would affect them so it gets sag downwards, sorry that i can't convey it in my drawing properly. While the ayy lmao head is intentional, it just get worse because all the hair supposed to be started in the top where the hair parted in the middle so it's a poofy hairstyle. I have no idea how to draw help lines so here if it helps convey what was i trying to do.

>>6551511
>not Japanese
Fuck off

>>6551662
based ngmi newfag

A complete newfag here
Which app should I use if I have an old shitty ipad?
I just want to learn the basics then upgrade to better tools

>>6551743
paint tool sai

>>6551748
Thanks anon, but it seems it’s pc only and I am looking if it possible to connect it to iPad

>>6551743
>ipad
just use paper at this point

Hi, I'm this anon from another thread >>6546533
Here's a new drawing I did, any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I still can't tell if I'm drawing in a manga style or not. Right now I usually just copy from reading manga while also studying fundamentals so idk if there's something I'm missing here.

>>6551768
use csp

>>6551769
What’s the recommended device for a poorfag

>>6551772
learn how light works

>>6551778
Alright, I'll start studying light, then, thanks. I typically just do stuff in black and white, are there any good books/resources on specifically light for that?

>>6551776
>paint tool sai
low-requirements
>csp
mid-requirements
>photoshop
high-requirements

>>6551743
procreate, cheap and easy

>>6551803
>are there any good books/resources on specifically light for that?
anon...light is light, it doesn't matter if is black and white, the rules are the same
all you need to learn is how the highlight works
https://youtu.be/oa8lkr5_nM8
https://youtu.be/xcCJ2CU-bFw
https://youtu.be/l_U9SIOmyjY
>picrel
the white in the hair is the highlight

if you knew it perspective, you would know how light works...

>>6551772

>>6551772
>>6551803
https://files.catbox.moe/4637fv.mp4
timelapse

>>6551839
Dang that's amazing, anon. I'm gonna study light like crazy now. I feel like I'm so close to making progress, I'm not going to let this hurdle beat me.

>>6551841
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it. I'll be watching this over and over and try to copy what you did, might post the result but if I did it right it'd be redundant, lol. I'll also be watching the videos that >>6551823 posted.
I'm relieved that I didn't screw up anything major in terms of facial proportions, that's probably the thing I've been grinding most on. Once again I really appreciate all the help I've gotten here.

>>6551841
>>6551845
One last question, and sorry for being annoying, what brush do you use for the highlights in the hair? Is it just the g pen or something else?

>>6551856
I just use a G-pen at 10 pixels with stabilization turned off. I'm not quite sure why you still haven't figured out the screentone thing yet but but heres a quick showcase of that. One thing to note though, at higher resolutions the screentones will become more and more smoothed out like grey, so experiment with different "frequencies" (this controls the spacing between the dots). Since this is a very low res image I cranked it up all the way to 85. Normally you want something like 60 for anything manga or illustration sized 4000x4000+ pixels

>>6551862
Thanks, man. About the screentone thing, it looked a little wonky but I forgot completely about the airbrush tool so I'll be using that.
Pic related are the illustration settings I use. I've heard this seems to be good for manga stuff but I've also had frequency issues with tones at times so not sure if I should be setting it to something else.

>>6548386
I can't draw. It sucks knowing how hopeless it is for me, but it's worse seeing that no matter how many years pass people refuse to give up crap like >>6548415

>>6551907
Please man, I'm trying so hard. I'm 23 and I know I still suck but I don't want to give up on being able to draw manga. I know that I was garbage at art as a teenager and that every progressing day it seems more and more impossible but I just want to have this goal to latch onto.

>>6551922
I'm 30. I hate to tell you this, but it never gets better. There's no magic where the you that was unable to draw is replaced by somebody that can draw. You'll always suck, you'll always be scribbling, you'll always see the talented go past you, and you will never get to the point you are actually capable of drawing.

I don’t even know if I can draw cause I always get overwhelmed by the amount of guides, tutorials, reference materials, advices and the fact that there is people who can and can’t draw
I just want to make some decent doodles of my fav characters

I don't even know where you would start with an image like this.

>>6551936
Watch out anon, you're going to summon the ackshually autist who points out that everyone can draw stick figures, so actually everyone can draw!

>>6551929
I'm gonna keep trying. I've made more progress than I thought I ever would. I hate that I suck, but if I give up now I'll feel even worse about myself.

>>6551966
Welcome to me of 7 years ago.

Last thing I drew. It's been a month and a half since and I've just been focusing on various things.
>>6551461
>https://twitter.com/cyjalway?s=21&t=o4H19-bc-dCZh6aWZWE2UA
Seeing this is discouraging at first, but then it gives me a lot of hope. My image just comes off too flat, especially once you look at the legs, and that's besides the other issues.

more anime faces, im still trying to get the eyes angles right it takes me a few tries somethimes but is getting easier each time, gonna keep grinding.

>>6552000
ughhhhhhhhh

>>6552003
what are you trying to convey with this post

>>6552003

>>6549612
>>6549674
The good news is you can just do a sheet of references and then recall the one from the previous day.

>>6550644
I'm interested in the rhythms you're putting on the face; is that for shadow or are you indicating/measuring something?

>>6551839
God damn teach me anon that looks incredibly good

>>6551960
tried but got tired
It's better to start with the object closest to the camera/viewer

>>6552000
Bro I think you're getting worse. Work on those noses. At least one of them is decent.

Lets keep working everyone

>>6550776
try adding a bit move volume and interaction with clothing anon

studying some faces

>>6552301

>>6552000
>>6552103
>>6552124
>>6552301
>>6552303
those are great
>>6548723
ya mean that schizo on /salt/?

>>6552303
What’s your process for studying, anon? Do you put the reference side by side and draw it or do you trace it once, then draw it on your own? I’d like to know since your work is good.

>>6552315
Thank you
>>6552359
It's like you say. I put the reference next to it and try to draw as close as possible to the original.
Because I want to concentrate on efficiency and precision I use a ballpoint pen so I can't erase anything.

>>6552315
Yes,that schizo

>>6552124
restart over bad linework and base

i drew miku today!! got a really bad headache so i didn't get to polish it the way i wanted to though

i just want to paint yae miko's ass

>>6553375
>Error 404 - Finger not found.

>>6553384
no, the other finger is hidden behind the other one. If thats all you got i can always change the hand pose slightly

>>6553401
it does look a little bit weird like that.

>>6553438
yeye, i can just paint in the other finger between the other one, not too bad. lmk what else to make her more hot

>>6553440
make her tits bigger and wet, your welcome

>>6553440
make her skin look actually wet rather than just random drops. also focus the water on her inner thigh like she's just finished taking a piss

>>6553375
Your rendering could use some love, maybe try to push the contrast a little harder. Also the ass looks very flat, both in the literal and rendering sense. It looks like the right butt cheek is completely flat and the fabric is hanging over it. The lack of transition and shadows from the left butt cheek to the upper leg is also jarring and makes it look really flat and weird.

>always posted drawings for here on stories of art acc
>mistake account and post them on private
>coworkers see my anime drawings
it's fucking over. it's LITERALLY fucking over. fuck

>>6548386
>For Japanese speedpaints search:
>イラストメイキング
>絵ができるまで or イラストができるまで
>スピードペイント
>描いてみた
what do these mean?

>>6553549
aight hows this homie

>>6552151
thanks for the tips anon. any specific advice on how to emphasize volume or is it just going to be grinding more fundies?

>>6553586
>イラストメイキング
"illust making"
>絵ができるまで or イラストができるまで
"before the drawing/illust is finished"
>スピードペイント
"speedpaint"
>描いてみた
"tried drawing"

t. eop

Studied Fkey

>>6553600
How do you do backgrounds, did you use a reference?

The style the artist I'm trying to study from is too complicated for me, I don't know how to replicate his rendering...

>>6551416
>>6551439
>>6551471
you will never be an artist

>>6553849
AAAAAIEEEEEEEEEE

>>6553849
I have two wonder if this and box method are the only options for composing refrence lines?

>>6553868
https://twitter.com/MangaMaterials2/status/1621328287678226433

>>6553869
Thats not a bad idea. Doing xyz planes could help me check over my work easier than ref layers using the other two methods.

>>6553613
np! i'm not really good at explaining, but it's a mix of both anatomy fundies and just really understanding how human fat and clothing works. which of course goes with getting grinding fundies, if that makes sense. one shortcut i learned was just really looking on how clothing interacts with one's own body, and if you make a certain pose, that should be reflected on how it's captured in both anatomy, fat covering the muscles and the clothes around that.

>>6553600
Better, but the left cheek still looks weird. I think there's something wrong with your proportions. I'd suggest finding a ref in that pose or make it yourself with a posing program. From the tumbnail it looks like the left cheek is just too big/low.

wip for my next full thing
Still unsure what hand expression I want the foreshortened hand to be doing

>>6549159
I like them, especially top right.

>>6553869
There is a lot of copyright autism on that twitter.

How do I aim for this art style? I tried some time ago and it looked like absolute shit.

>>6553882
I think they also have too much emphasis on the hip angle for how close it is to the horizon line. The mid section does not give an impression of sticking the ass out to the viewer but the hips do.

They can probably find a few gravure or kigu stuff in that pose to use.

>>6553930
keep it up bro

>>6553930
NGMI!

https://www.youtube.com/@KawaiiSenseiDrawing
This guy compile neat stuff in short youtube format if anyone here haven't gotten this in their recommendation yet.

>>6553941
how do I download all these to avoid ever dealing with youtube shorts?

>>6553952
Just change the shorts part of the url to watch.

>>6551511
What book is this though?

>>6554009
https://www.fakku.net/hentai/mario-interview-one-point-advice-corner-60-english

>>6554016
Thanks

>>6553930
who/what materials youre studying?

It's so strange that this thread is full of people that keep copying the same generic 2010s moe girl style mindlessly. Don't you ever draw from imagination? Or pieces that aren't just floating girls with no backgrounds? There rarely are people trying to develop their own styles in these threads.

>post my drawing, get like 100-200 likes
>some random beaner reuploads it somewhere else and gets 10k
why and how...

>>6554097

>thread about copying other artists' work for the sake of learning
>There rarely are people trying to develop their own styles in these threads

I wonder why

>>6554100
>posts more often than you
>for longer than you
>have time to babysit his followers
Just take the AI pill and start pumping art on a daily basis if all you care is feeding your likes addiction

>>6553882
People told me it looked fine, looked at some refs and it looks about the same. can you redline

>>6554097
Nothing is original and its pointless to focus on style considering style is what got me into bad habit of how I shade. Now I do render studies of better artists. So yeah people are copying animu shit to learn from other people because other people have better habits. At least we are studying and posting our work.

>>6554097
>muh style
Ur style dont really come into play until a good 8 to 10 years down the road. Everything u do until then is a piss poor version of art u've seen.

>>6553923
Study it first, THEN ask what you are still missing.
But you say you already tried? Post it.

>>6554347
>8 to 10 years
ngmi

>>6554352
Mikufag, you can’t say shit with your perma/beg/ garbage

>>6554353
isn't he the living proof, you can tell who mikufag is by his style alone you don't need 10+ years to develop your own style.

>>6554367
U think anyone from outside of this place recognizes him?

>>6554347
It really depends on the person. I found that it took me about that long personally but some people have a defined style quite early on in their art career.

>>6554402
why would you care? he already got a style in 3 years and you are dreaming about 10 years before you could be able to do it, he won big on you lol

>>6554068
this guy https://takako.fanbox.cc/

Is this anatomy okay?

>>6554488
Mmmmmm armpitpussies

>>6554445
Those with defined style early on are most likely mimicking their inspirations.
>>6554461
Ur right I dont. He decided to barge in and brag about himself.

>>6554497
Use an ai to check it for you

>>6554348
It was some time ago so I don't have it. I deleted instantly anyway since it was such a shitty try. I wouldn't go at it blind anyway, I know that doesn't work now.
Brush recommendations? Do I play with some tool to get it right? No idea.

>>6554522
If they are mimicking but still able to differentiate it and have a unique style that can be specifically tied to them is that not just having a developed style?

>>6554559
hard round brush and manually adjust rush size

>>6554559
Soft round brush

>>6554525
Fuck off

A study which I tried to imitate an old anime style

>>6554603
Another one, although not as precise as it should be

i've spent way too long trying to get this pose right and i have no idea what i'm trying to do

>>6554497
it's kind of hard to tell with just outline

Edited

>>6554525
Nah I don't want to make a full drawing, but if it doesn't look immediately terrible I'm satisfied.

>>6554204
I don't think I mentioned "originality"? I mean, it's just strange that no one here is doing much of their own pieces, just "studies" of other pieces with bland styles

>>6554652
To study the work is not doing it in your own style. It's trying to replicate another artist's style and learn from that process. That's the point of the thread. It's more strange that you don't understand that.

>>6554660
Every other general I've seen still manages to do more than replication studies. Is this place strictly permabeg? Genuinely not sure.

how do i learn to draw hair? i have watched a million guides and i still suck.

>>6554588
>>6554598
W-which is it?

>>6554497
don't fall for memes like seanig- I mean... asian genes, drawing from real life, symbol drawing, aphantasia, neuroplasticity and drawing from the shoulders

just copy anime, and use material from westernGODS like >>6551511

made some edits

>>6554668
Are you blind? there are plenty of original work being posted. You also are ignoring the anime STUDY general aspect of it.

>>6553888
Progress for today
I decided to go for a more conventional size on the hand because it looked comically big once I filled the details in. There are a few other proportion issues that are bothering me as well: I think her head is a little bit too big and the lower part of the right leg (our point of view) is weird but I can't put my finger on it. I'll leave it as is today and see if tomorrow I wake up with a fresh pair of eyes

>>6554603
>>6554607
Nice work anon,they're cute

>>6554749
>westernGODS like
lol
she's japanese anon https://exhentai.org/tag/artist:mario

>>6554833
the material that he's literally recommending are loomis and vilppu
and btw ShindoL is american and he also appears in the doujinshi tag

>change the way i hold my pen
>can make the lines my eyes want to make
>accuracy improves 200%
>gesture doesnt look dogshit anymore
WTF BROS

My goal is really simple, how can I draw sketches like this one? What’s the best material to study from
A complete new beginner here
I want to draw characters I like in a simple sketch as a hobby

>>6554890
DAB

>>6554890
do 300 of this
https://youtu.be/iK5Qn_Iwv9A

first half of the study done. got lazy with the hair but ill fix that soon

>>6554912
neck and head small
overall good job anon

>>6554890
I looking for something more like this
https://youtube.com/shorts/wVErPoYsG4E

>>6554759
left cheek should still be higher. also remember that since she's putting weight on the left leg that side of her hip will be tiled upwards and that cheek will be pushed upwards as well

>>6555010
if you're talking about the far hip, i think you're wrong, the perspective is more of a low angle so the hips are going into perspective causing the far hip to be visually lower

>>6555020
Nta but it's hard to read it as low angle when none of the bottom surfaces of her head are visible. We can see the top of her head.

>>6549182
smells funny

>>6555024
Yeah but look at the architecture in the back and how it goes to the vanishing point. the girl in this pic is tilting her head downwards towards the camera so despite the eyeline being just above her knee, you can still see the top of the head a bit. the torso and the ass are moreso showing the perspective

>>6555032
Could you redline the perspective anon I'm not seeing it

>>6555036

>>6554922
thx for the feedback, ill take that into acct next time
i hate hair i hate hair i hate hair

what's your ways of doing it on pen and paper?
copy to scale?

The frills are killing me, trying to get them to align correctly with her hand and rest of the body is torture, is there a way to draw them faster?

>>6554488
aw fuck is paid
do u have anywhere with the images for free?
>>6553930
also, where exactly you learned the pelvis? these top right ones look great

>>6555263
i wasn't able to find it in the usual places for free, but he's posted a lot of his past anatomy studies on his twitter
>top right
i've been looking through stonehouse and bridgman and drawing from their diagrams, those were an attempt from memory but it seems kind of off

>>6555270
oh i see, thank you anon

>>6555250
Yeah, Stop
The fuck is the point photocopying some other guys work?

very important studies

I have not improved in years and the only way I can get better now is studying and I don't want to

>>6554865
how do you hold your pen before and now?

Anybody got a good guide on how to draw pussy? At least with penis i can draw the shapes of it but i lost at cunny and can only imagine coinslot

>>6555440
Use this prompt. deviantart tutorial pussy drawing tips tricks

>>6554854
>ShindoL is american
You can't fall for this meme

>>6554769
where?

>>6553375
Did you traced an AI pic?

>>6555503
here
>>6549341
>>6555045
>>6553031
>>6553028

>>6554792
Thank you. It's quite a lot of work to do but it's worth it.

>>6555503
no lol, i just painted it by hand stable diffusion is too fucky for me and im too retarded to try and get it to be good

>>6555648
you could use novelai

>>6555682
fuck off

>>6555503
probably, I already got this guy ripoff things and entire compositions from other people
pic rel was even an entry for a contest
>>6555648
lol

>>6555761
who's the artist for the picture on the right?

>>6555768
LACK

>>6555761
KEEEK

>>6555761
Not really, this doesnt prove anything about me tracing. If you really want to bring up old stuff, then sure you can do that, but I've shown my process before none of which involve tracing or AI.

>>6555773
This guy is seriously cool
gay subject matter aside, I love the texture on the background. How do you achieve that? do you guys know how to get that comfy "noise" texture?

I thought Japan would stop AI art bros... why are they making AI anime and manga

>>6555821
>same pose, same perspective, same background, same loli holding something, hell even same skulls on the floor
I know it's easier when another artist solves all anatomy and perspective problems for you but you totally lost the credibility
>I've shown my process
so how about showing how you sketch figures, gestures and create compositions instead of just posting half assed speedpaints where you post the lineart already done and color it with mudy colors without saturation

>>6555843
No they hate it, it’s mostly kr artist and non-artist using it.

Just ignore and report the retard calling everything traced, he's been at it for a few days now
You can use the "off-topic" or "drama/community vendetta" categories

>>6555848
Huh??? I've shown my ENTIRE sketches and colors before for similar pieces, just look at my most recent twitter posts. Just because I tried to rip off Lack blatantly in the past doesnt mean I keep on doing it. Sure, was it a bit heavy handed and not a good way of stealing from other artist? Yeah, I learned that wasnt a good idea, and to steal/take inspo only from specific elements instead. I'm really curious to see what your work looks like if you're so insistent on trying throw shit at me instead of actually trying to help me.

>>6555863
no you haven't
all the composition and figure were already done

>>6555863
Is it that hard to show a printscreen of your file or upload it faggot if you dont want people calling you a tracer?

>>6555866
What about the magallan i posted on /ALT/? how about THIS piece I just showed you? do you have any proof at all behind your claims aside from talking mad shit about one thing I did in the past?
>>6555867
I mean I can take screencap of the of it sure
>upload
No, why would i give randoms on 4chan a PSD that I can put on Patreon or give to my friends?
If you still think that people who are better than you trace or steal the comp directly then you're completley lost lol

>>6555881
Traced

>>6555881
what is this supposed to prove?

>>6555884
>>6555885
You dumb motherfucker. I literally showed you the sketch and every step of the process and yet here you are, trying to justify being wrong

>>6555887
check time, check your layers, you just painted over some image from either an artist or ai

>>6555881
>>6555863
>>6555887
That retard (because I can guarantee it, it's just one guy) literally does not care that you can prove you made that picture, all he cares about is stirring up drama and getting replies
Stop replying to him and stop giving him attention, that's exactly what he wants
Report him for "trolling outside of /b/" and move on

>>6555881
the number of layers does not matter retard
nothing guarantees that you didn't sketch using someone else's work
if you get caught once you will always be remembered for it

>>6555889
>it's just one guy
meds now

>>6549182
lol not clicking that

>>>/h/7212916
Here's a thread that takes a look at the art of hentai, especially focusing in how the first digitally painted ones used colour. >>>/h/7213254 even has a behind the scenes clip showing lineart

>>6553635
how long do these take for people to do? Never sure if I'm spending too much time on these

>>6549016
hey, i'm the anon that told you to do these exercises. First of all, good job with your trace.

In terms of how to get closer to their look, i can tell your pen lacks the sort of texture setting that his has. That sort of rough feeling is something your hands can't do for you, it's similar in idea to drawing linework on rough textured paper, it's the tool that gives you that effect. You will have to experiment with your texture settings or find a pen that gives a similar result. This contributes to the soft feeling.

Second, the use of pure black lines in some areas. I know you're aware of it and I see you've taken note of it. In the painting process you often end up lowering the opacity of your line layer, either the whole layer opacity or adjusting certain parts using a clipping layer or something. This helps with the overall B/W contrast or balance of the image, but it also gives a softer and less crisp feeling to the lineart.

We can see that happening in the eyes, the hair coming over the eyes (bangs), and for lack of better word the areas in the piece that are being made to "glow." I've gone over the image and pointed out the areas that receive adjustment to the lines after the fact. It's important that you see these areas for what they are and recognize that they are not in the original state of the lineart. Just pointing this out if it wasn't already clear, but it's far easier to get these effects after the fact and that's the logical process to take when creating an artwork anyways.

Beyond that, there will always be some difference in feeling because one is painted and one isn't. Their lines are surrounded with values, and that changes slightly how they feel. Do keep that in mind.

At this point you're good to start practicing your painting and rendering. Even starting with grayscale works would be fine. Copies and original work is good. You will understand more about lineart this way.

>>6555761
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT USE AN IMAGE FOR INSPIRATION TO CREATE A SIMILAR IMAGE THAT'S CHEATING
retarded faggot and absolutely never going to make it

i should have just hidden both hands

>>6556480
Wtf is she fucking, why is the dick green

>>6556480
why she looks lobotomized

>>6556482
pepe

>>6556498
AI GOD
AI GODAI GOD
AI GOD
AI GOD

>>6555842
you get that comfy "noise" texture by applying a noise texture, anon. It's that simple.

If you use CSP, get a noise image from either google or the CSP asset store. Then either use the overlay layer mode or the "overlay texture" button in the layer properties tab.

If you're too retarded to follow the instructions you can look it up on youtube.

>>6556498

UOOOOOOOOOOH !!!!!!

>>6556482
she just looks happy to me

>>6553031
you are a gangster !

Anons, is this too hard of a reference to use off? I feel like the more realistic proportions and the style is really good

>>6556702
try it and see

>>6556708
I need more attempts to hone it up, scale and accuracy wise.

>>6556498
model pls pls pls before the thread dies

>>6555887
>imagine getting this upset over some anonymous
Lmao nta but have some self-control faggot. There is a certain threshold in here where you are prone to being crabbed no matter if you are pre-beg or a full fledged tracer. If you claim to be the person you think you are you really should be posting on twitter lmao. I do think people tend to forget what the fuck kind of place they are dealing with here and you are obviously butthurt about it kek retard kys.

>>6556864
No idea, I just fixed everything wrong with it for someone

Does anyone remember the name of the japanese artist that's really good at backgrounds and interiors? I think he had a book as well. His icon is a green cube with one eye.

>>6556969
>didnt bookmark
retard

>>6556970
I've only just now started wanting to learn how to draw backgrounds so I never paid him much attention before.

>>6556969
YOSHIDA seiji

>>6557029
Thanks anon. I was hopelessly trying to remember his name from an artbook I saw once.

>>6556908
Noone ic get shitter by the year there always some pathetic beg nigger justifing being a massive faggot because it le 4 chan. Eat a brick.

do you guys think there's a market for an isekai set in ripoff hellenistic near east where the protagonists are Frisian american landowners

>>6555887
you literally did not show the construction which was what was asked for, retard
but I'm sure in all your layers you've conveniently deleted that one

>>6557899
nope, its the first image of
>>6555863
you can literally see my trying to sketch out the background and the character in that one, aligning the character to the vanishing point off to the left. If it were traced, then I would have never changed it as much during the lineart and coloring phase. you wouldnt know this because you dont draw lul

>>6557762
i guess

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