/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>6545008
Thanks for using me art, here’s my most evil character to date

>>6545011
AHHH GET HIM OFF THE SCREEN

How do I make my proportions accurate to my reference?
I’m doing head studies and it’s the one thing I keep fucking up which messes with everything else.
Someone told me to study skills but that seems overkill plus with all the details I feel like it won’t help. Someone else told me to flip my defences so I’m drawing upside down or to use bargue drawing which I’m sceptical of.
It’s so demoralising

>>6545022
so you tried none of them?
i have nothing to add but to measure more

>>6545022
Draw something REALLY big, then measure it down until it looks good
For example, if you want to draw a nose, make it long like the blade of a pickaxe, then measure it down until it looks like it fits in the face

>>6545022
I meant study skulls*

>>6545026
I just got those recommendations yesterday, I’m looking for more.

>>6545035
I’ll add that to the list, thank you

ok I call it done >:|

>>6545053
Don't understand why you wouldn't post a bigger size.
Your stuff always looks nice but it's annoying that it's so small.

vilppu drawing manual or loomis figure drawing for all its worth? which should i dive into first?

>>6545056
Let a coin flip determine it for you.
It doesn't really matter as long as you see it through. You can finish one and then move onto the other

>>6545013
The Bargue guy was right, seriously. The whole program is designed to improve your accuracy, even just developing the ability to work sight size will help you.

>>6545056
I did both and for some reason while the info stuck my best progress came from that ArtWOD/Kim Jung Gi box mannequin thing. Just drawing what looks like low poly hivers from Kenshi over and over until they created their own neural pathways in my brain, then doing them lightly and building muscle on top. It really is all about mileage. Pick something, do it 300x, and get slightly better each time.

>>6545022
I prefer to learn proportions intuitively. it takes longer to learn, but it is faster than measuring every tiny thing. to do this, you can't zoom in your drawing until the very last moments. try to draw everything while looking at the whole piece at once and flip the drawing from time to time. don't do this flipping upside down bullshit. this is a method for realistic artists (i.e. living xerox machines) and it will be detrimental for idealistic artists (real artists)

When the bodies of men and women start to be noticeably different? Do they already show differences when they are very young?

The next part of the grind is gesture drawing, recommend jump in with 20, 30-sec exercises. I'm gonna redo this but exercise some timer control because this fucking sucked, it should be like 4 figures max to a page. Fuck it. 20, 90 seconds each next I guess. Can't learn without looking like a retard.

>>6545214
wouldn't that just be puberty?

how are you supposed to draw the pelvis?

>>6545055
He also posts it square, so that way it's easier for the AI trainers, so they can use the artwork right away without cropping and resizing.

turns out perspective made easy has a chapter on shades and shadows, this was exactly what i was looking for. i didnt think i needed to study perspective since i already understood vanishing points, but now im seeing this was the missing link i needed after all.

Total noob here, just discovered this place. I got a question about anime fan art:
All artists seem to draw in their own distinct style, both for SFW and NSFW fan art.
I've almost never seen anybody just try to replicate the original style of the characters, even though a lot of people (including me) would want just exactly that.
Why is that? Is there a legal reason, like copyright that prevents them? Or do they simply not want to draw in a way that the don't like?
Sorry if this is not the place to ask this...

>>6545246
GTFO

>>6545338
>>6534668

>>6545357
Thanks, copied it there.

How the fuck do you crawl out of being mid. I got told "you look like a Twitter artist everyone would pass by" and I am not saying this is untrue, but I am frustraited cause I don't know how to get over this hump

>>6545369
Make stuff that that other's ain't making. More crazy perspectives, more provocative or more eye catching stuff. As always post work of your best (or most average). Maybe the collective /beg/ genius can suggest something for you to try.

>>6545369
Rare insult. Show a piece.

Studied a bit of Hampton, did I manage to take at least some of it in?

>>6545369
You don't crawl out of anything, the more you get good the more you feel bad about yer art
Learn to live with frustration and anxiety, they're the two things that make you improve

good day beg, finished part 1. i messed up the hand length on the marie but whatever, its not like the rest of the figures are proportional either.

>>6545022
you level up accuracy and observation every time you draw from reference. there is no magic trick to it except using various sighting techniques, plumbing, leveling, proportions... just draw (a lot)
>>6545053
are these supposed to be two separate pics? confusing to see them together like this. i like them both
>>6545122
i am doing bargue right now and honestly its the worst art book i have ever seen. first it vomits all condensed theory in first few pages and then its just endless catalogue of references with messed up numbering and the skill curve isnt even consistent. it shows heavily its supposed to be complimentary to art tutor leading you through it. i wouldnt recc it over good stuff like keys to drawing
>>6545232
idk but solid studies
>>6545305
>>6545369
you forgot to PYW
>>6545450
looks a bit stiff but that probably wasnt focus of whatever exercise was that anyway

>>6545008
Any tips for training your eye to spot errors in your own work? Usually, if I work on something for longer than an hour, it's hard to see what's fucked up about it.

>>6545510
Quick and dirty is just to mirror your canvas.

Lately i've been feeling like my draws lack something, like punch or, well, i dont know how to describe it.

>>6545551
It's kinda cluttered?

>>6545551
Boobs seem a bit off but may just be the style, also yeah, like other anon said, too cluttered so move them apart so I can at least see the smaller figure in the middle better. The arm in the way makes it hard to see.

Is it really useful to draw these things?

>>6545624
It's a good check once in a while.

i <3 spider-man

A commieblock

>>6545551
It's cluttered, in the sense that all details are presented to the viewer with the same intensity. You need to use color and values (in your style case a gradient maybe?) to guide the eye of the viewer on the most important parts, leaving the rest to his curiosity. Something like that, hope you get what I mean
Apart that I love it, blog me up breh

>>6545654
Kinda Todd McFarlaneish with that jawline

Does this look fucked up perspective-wise?

>>6545682
yeah i was directly referencing mcfarlane

>>6545684
Is there a reason why the vanishing point of the box to the left is up in the sky?

>>6545684
yes if the boxes are in the same scene

>>6545688
Congrats you did it correctly

Tried to paint Asa and Yoru, any tips?

>>6545780
Smells like ai bait.

>>6545802
no its actually my painting

>>6545814
let's get married

>>6545780
>>6545814
No one on /ic/ is good enough to critique you. Just leave and talk to actual pros, and don’t get stuck in this hellhole

>>6545802
FUCKING KEK NOT EVEN /IC/ CAN TELL ANYMORE

>>6545842
How the mighty /beg/ has fallen.

I can finally kinda draw a floating torso
Time to quit art again for a couple months

>>6545022
what's been helping me is to draw bigger, use plumb lines, and build a generic face using general proportions (loomis can help) then adjusting to match the reference. Also drawing a lot.

>>6545814
wtf, being good is not allowed here, get out

Working on this pic at the moment.

Forgot pic.

I really like how this is goign, but feel free to trash me

is copying fine? don't feel like making my own stuff at the moment. If I just copy various things I like will it help me improve a little? It does make me a little happy finishing a thing, even if I just copied a meme face.
I know I should have an analytical approach and try to see what I like about an image or how it was drawn, but if I just brainlessly copy an image that makes me happy would that be okay too?

will drawing basic shapes like circles and squares mindlessly actually help me improve? Or is there some sort of critical analysis I have to do as well? I don't understand what to do for said critical analysis, what am I supposed to do? People say draw circle and I am trying, but tablet sucks and I don't know if I am actually getting better or not.
(copied from an anon in another thread but I have this exact same question)

>>6546026
what is that abstract improve? if you draw circles and squares you get better at drawing circles and squares and somewhat at making lines in general

>>6546020
what like studies? i don’t see why not. if you’re beg it can help you build line confidence, learn how to observe and not “symbol draw”. i would recommend learning how to analyze the image properly eventually though. like breaking it down into the basic shapes, the perspective, the shading, etc.

>>6546026
if you wanna draw shapes mindlessly learn how to draw them “right” y’know? i know cubes are practically a “meme” or whatever but learn to draw those properly. learn to draw spheres and cylinders and cones etc.

i really really love perspective made easy and would recommend it to anyone ..

>>6546043
not really studies more like an obsessed kid doodling stuff he's seen on the Internet with references. I don't really have the basics down yet, so I can't call copying a study, it's just a for fun thing
I like color so I do want to understand shading better. I was recommended doing that value accurate sphere exercise

>>6546043
not that anon, but the anon that originally asked that question in another thread,
>learn how to draw them “right”
Even if I try my best and go slow, my circles are imperfect. However, I am not changing technique or trying to approach making a circle in any different way aside the hand motion itself. I had started to use a tablet, which is why this is such a pain. When I was mouse and keyboard making art I;d just use the circle tool, and the tablet is less precise then pen and paper. I'm not sure if there is some critical error I am making or if magically one day I will make good circles.

Also are there any alternatives to 4chan to get help with art? This thread seems mostly fine but the rest of /ic/ has been a ultrahostile shithole over harmless stupid beginner questions.

>>6546063
honestly i can only give you the same advice you’ve probably already heard.. draw with your arm, practice and do it over and over again, “ghost” your lines.

this is a stupid story but when i was in middle school i would see videos of my favorite cartoonists drawing characters and starting with circles. and they would “ghost” the circle before putting it down on paper and making a really nice circle. and i thought that was SO cool so i did the same whenever i drew at school, and other kids noticed and started doing it. so somewhere out there there’s a bunch of my former middle school classmates who know how to “ghost” and draw really nice circles now, kek.

>>6546073
I'll try ghosting it first, and see what happens. I hope I get used to the tablet soon, between the demoralization here and the lack of results I'm already losing the steam I had to try again.

hey I was looking in the sticky and I think I suffer from some pretty bad symbol drawing but do I really gotta read these two books
>Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards
>Keys to Drawing by Bert Dodson
Books are long and boring I wanna draw

>>6546078
don’t read right side of the brain it’s weird dumb pseudoscience and i’m pretty sure it’s the same exercises as keys to drawing. keys to drawing is kinda interesting but i think you’d be fine just doing the exercises.

>>6546085
guess avoiding reading a book won't be an option augh
well okay, how's drawabox btw?

>>6546078
Everything can be a cube with round and/or hard edges. EVERYTHING

>>6546078
Ngmi

>>6546088
And stretched, compressed cube

>>6546090
And straight, bend cube

>>6546091
bent*

>>6546086
i did it, i liked it. i heard dynamic sketching by peter han is better? someone else would have to corroborate that for me kek i wasn’t gonna bother doing both. they’re both about the same. pick one and go with it.

>>6546088
I'm not sure why you said that to me anon, what is your point
I said I don't wanna read, I wanna draw. I can draw cubes I don't mind that, I don't want to 'read'
>>6546089
gmi
>>6546094
hmmmm okay... drawabox has youtube videos so I'll look into those

>>6546095
You don't need to read to draw a cube and modify it

hey I just noticed that there's like 3 different stickies apparently? I was looking at the old one, which one do you guys think I should check?

>>6546099
!!!! ok !!!!!

>>6546101
The Google doc one is the best. The only reason alternatives got made were because some discord fags got mad another discord had their discord link in the Google doc

>>6546109
>The Google doc one is the best.
can I know why that and not the old one? in the pin? just curious

>>6546112
The old one is good too I think. Just ignore the "collaborative" one

>>6545814
>>6545780
Compared to what gets posted here usually it's really fucking exceptional.
If I had to point something, I'd say that
1. the finger shadow projected on the eye looks a bit like a sticker and should be blended differently in some point
2. the point of the index finger that connects to the palm of the hand needs a puff of depth, like just a line or a bit of darker value in the middle
3. The line of the chin is a bit weird, you might want to give it a more gentle curve.
It's all details though, like I said it's really good and you definitely should feel proud of yourself my dude

>>6546116
will do, thanks!

>>6545008
How to fill in the monster? Anon said flowes, which sounds quite lovely - how does a fool shade this alternatively?

When I ask people to post their art

>>6545611
>>6545613
>>6545678
Thanks for the feedback anons, i will fix it later, placing different characters in a single Page was Hard, i'll be more careful with the clutter.
>You need to use color and values to guide the eye of the viewer
Oh, interesting, will do, color has always been my bane, i still feel like i dont understand it correctly, any book or source that you recommend?
>blog me up breh
Oh sure, you can find me on twitter as Leikdaz22

any critique on these heads?

Should I erase the pencil sketch as much as possible when moving on to pen work? Ive read that granite can clog up the pen and mess it up

Cross-posting from the oc thread

Just posting the garbage just in case anybody picks up on something. But anyway, I'm having trouble drawing textures I try drawing stone, cliff faces, wood and so on but they all look horribly wrong, are there any exercises anybody can recommend?

>>6545780
Go to /asg/ all your fundies are well above the level here

>>6546267
lighten it with a kneaded eraser. It's just more convenient to ink over, often. But I've never heard of graphite clogging a pen...

>>6546279
I hope this can give you a bit to think about. Do some more hand studies, from Bridgman especially, for men's hands

>>6546361
God bless anon, will do.

>>6546320
Sort out your vanishing points.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y0XVPprbYY

>>6546440
cheers

>>6546440
Thanks. I think the only remedy to my poor vp's is just practicing more and analysing what I do after I'm done each piece. I've only recently started working with multiple lines, ie more than 2 boxes. Long way to go anyway, I'll be back in a couple weeks and pray to God I've gotten somewhere more

Does anyone have a trick for keeping your tablet straight? A lot of what I draw ends up skewed, because I keep holding the tablet at a slight angle, and I always forget that I'm doing it. I can usually fix it just by applying the skewing tool, but it's still a big pain in the ass.

>>6546534
Why are you holding the tablet??

Some bodiess

>>6546534
>holding the tablet

i don't even know how to get started with drawing... i felt inspired after reading berserk, and although i know it would take over a decade of effort before i even scratch the surface of Miura's skills, i still want to know how to get started
i'm thinking of maybe buying a tablet so i can draw on my computer? i've seen some cool stuff drawn with software
i hate to ask such a basic question, but would anybody be able to suggest to me where i would even start?
maybe get a cheap little drawing tablet and follow tutorials for a while? this is just a hobby so i don't expect to get paid or be excellent or anything

>>6546570
I’m a gigabeg but I’ll say what I can. I think you should start with pen and paper (and pencil). Cheaper for a long time to see if you actually want to do it. When it comes to learning you can pick any popular fundamentals book and just stick with it until you get through it, as long as you don’t flip flop between books or programs you should improve

>>6546570
>i don't even know how to get started with drawing... i felt inspired after reading berserk, and although i know it would take over a decade of effort before i even scratch the surface of Miura's skills, i still want to know how to get started
Get your accuracy to 80%
Keys to Drawing or Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain will teach you how to be accurate. Anons hate DOTRSOTB but it's where I started and the exercises are good, just ignore everything else she says.
>i'm thinking of maybe buying a tablet so i can draw on my computer? i've seen some cool stuff drawn with software
Tablet is fine for beginners, don't listen to anons who say otherwise. Don't rely on undo.
>i hate to ask such a basic question, but would anybody be able to suggest to me where i would even start?
Learn how to stop symbol drawing, then grind accuracy until you can copy things with ~80% accuracy. Then learn your fundies (markmaking, gesture, perspective, construction) and spend half your time doing studies of Miura since that's your inspo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5Qn_Iwv9A
>maybe get a cheap little drawing tablet and follow tutorials for a while? this is just a hobby so i don't expect to get paid or be excellent or anything
Cheap tablet is fine. Get them used, no reason to buy brand new. When artists upgrade their tablets, they get rid of their old ones even if there's nothing wrong with them. I got a 380 USD MSRP for 200 and it works like a charm.
>my work

>>6546573
sounds reasonable, thank you anon
gonna go look for books, i'm excited to learn more

Can someone point me in the right direction to learn painting? 100% of my hours are all in figure drawing. Idk the painting process, idk color etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBjRyyWKS0A&t=1848s

trying out painting in krita

thank you for the start, Andy, but i am moving on from your Pencil book. i will keep the Head Technique and always value the mannequins, but i do not want to draw in your style. moving on. hello Mr. Dodson.

>>6546538
>>6546566
you guys sit up straight?? i sit with both of my feet on the chair, legs spread, tablet on my crotch and twisted… have yet to develop carpal tunnel though it’s almost certainly not good for me. i do the same in bed i draw either laying down or sitting legs crossed..

>>6546198
i think some of the creases, particularly around the mouth, are a bit too strongly defined against the very flat nonshading of most of the head.

>>6546570
I'm probably what's considered decent around here, but I'm also a complete fucktard that knows how to draw because some way that ended up being coded into myself at birth and I can't learn from books even if I tried, so I'll give a slightly different angle from the others: never, fucking never forget to enjoy what you do. The moment you realize you're just getting bored by doing exercises and stuff, you'll become a crab or just end up giving up art little by little
Do what the others say, but integrate it in actually making and finishing drawings of something you give a fuck about. Don't overpolish stuff, take note of the mistakes you've done and keep them in mind when you do the next one. Don't be too focused on skill goals, just try to do your best and FUCKING REMEMBER to congratulate the fuck out of yourself when you look at the finished piece. Because it can sound stupid, but finishing the drawing you started it's one of the most important habits any artist can have, and the majority of people just keep fixing the mistakes in a piece or leave stuff unfinished and start new stuff, and those are the most detrimental things you can do to yourself

So I'm trying to figure out how to draw a human figure because honestly no matter what I do, it looks misshapen. Lower legs have a bump in the middle, but somehow I never cannot nail it. I have same problem with arms. I'm thinking if I could "stylize" the problem away without giving it too much of cartoonish look.
Don't mind the linework, hands and feet, just didn't want to waste time on them.

>>6546538
I didn't mean to say that I'm holding it up. That would be impossible. I hold on to one edge so I can reach all the function buttons with my thumb, and to keep it steady so the weight of my other hand doesn't push it all over the place. My problem is that I have no good way to make sure the tablet is at a 90 degree angle to my face.

>>6546671
Have you tried looking at a model?

>>6546676
I'm using DesignDoll to try to get the general shape right, but still it looks bad here. I cannot get it right even if I correct it constantly.

>>6546679
Draw a thousando figures then try again

>>6546683
Sooner I will fall asleep that do ten of them.
I have grown a resistance to books and exercises I constantly end up having hiatuses because of those.

>>6546675
How does the weight of your hand push it around?
I mean, how's that even possible? Does it have wheels underneath? Are you a shark and your skin can't slide on the plastic?

fuck

>unironically have to draw 5,000 shit drawings before you start doing good ones
fuck all the way off, i will just wait for the art chips and plug in the good ones to my AI brain, stupid hobby

what sites are there for references of everyday poses?

>>6546701
check out this one where you can look up poses based on the position https://x6ud.github.io/pose-search/#/

>>6546701
google "quickposes"

>>6546706
quickposes is good but i was wondering if there was something for non-staged poses

>>6546697
The hand has elephantiasis.

>>6546684
Well good luck blindly guessing then.

>>6546715
maybe try the IC torrent? idk what the difference between staged and non staged may be, kind of like you're just looking at someone sweeping or doing dishes versus a ballerina? Eadweard Muybridge has a book like that, i'd be interested if there were modern "frame by frame" things like this but tbqh just get a 4k youtube video of like new york walkabouts, pause on someone, clip, and add to pureref?

>>6546722
Haha, thanks. Models didn't help much. Maybe if someone redlined it then maybe I could see where I'm going wrong.

>>6546719

>>6546719

>>6546679
the premade designdoll figure or whatever is so fucking ugly and misshapen
mess with the figure a little bit

>>6546731
That's what I think as well, but the menu is kinda unreadable when it comes to explaining what option does what, especially when it comes to limbs.
I might check out other programs and see how figures look there.

>>6546727
I have a much better exercise for you. Draw it again from the side.

>>6546684
>>6546727

I get where you're coming from, but your mindset is going to fuck you over. Refs are necessary. If you're teaching yourself you should also always be self analyzing and critiquing.

You need to work on your observational skills. Keep your drawing zoomed out and just make sure that your proportions match the reference. Don't worry about anatomical details, just match the placement of the limbs and large shapes of the torso/hips to the reference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3mPxN-99uI

This has some good techniques like plumbing lines and negative space that'll help you with that.

>>6546730
Still has that stung by a bee look.

>>6546730
The right foot is turned way too far. It should be pointing in the same direction as her knee.

>>6546739
pic related, decided to just loosely follow the model in DesignDoll, I kinda like it.

>>6546757
Thanks for the link.
>Refs are necessary.
I did have problem with "use no refs" mindset, especially because I hate looking for them and dealing with pics that themselves aren't accurate, but using a modeling program largely alleviated it and actually allowed me to get shit done. Now I keep pictures more as reference at how characters look.

>>6546775
forgot pic.

>>6546727
If you had a reference image, you could redline yourself by just overlaying your drawing with the ref.

>>6546765
Nice

>>6546782
Fair enough, but as other anon said, DesignDoll model does suck.

>>6546765
Your stuff always appeals to me. Blog?

how do I determine how an object is rotated in a picture so I can draw it as well?

>>6546830
draw cuboids, spheroids, rectanguloids, pyramoids, and conoids from every perspective imaginable until they are ingrained in your neural pathway. then, go out into real life. find a thing you like, and break that bitch down into your practiced shapes. the dog becomes an organic stretched spheroid for body, a box for cranium, rectangle for snout, flattish cylinders for the hind legs, cylinder for actual legs and so on. now, having known the forms, breaking down the subject, putting it back together, you can then rotate the well-known forms and "build" your subject any which way you choose. do this like 100x per subject and get it into your visual library. enjoy.

>>6546656
fix your posture now before you're in your 30s and it's a massive pain in the ass to deal with

>>6545008
Hey /ic/, is there anything I can still improve upon?

>>6546121
Any advice for this one?

>>6546121
>>6546849
However you want it, Anon-kun.
Do you have some colored pencils?

>>6546848

>>6546872
lül

how do you draw breasts without a reference?

>>6546899
Draw them enough so you don't even think twice about it

>>6546852
I have water color brushes but i am quite shit with colors hah besides the comic is in black/white/gray. Thing is, i have no idea how to shade besides thinking of direction of the light, maybe i am overlooking thinking it, but I'd like to go for something i am uncomfortable with, which is most things, i am nowhere near classical trained.

Nine times outta ten, I gotta draw measurement lines on the reference and I kinda feel bad for doing it. This one turned out pretty good without any, though.

>>6546899
If it's a weird pose you just need reference
Use this: https://www.posespace.com/artreferenceposes.aspx

>>6546908
I need to practice regular poses, I kinda just wing it with a reference but it's harder without one

>>6546903
You'll never know until you try

>>6546906
Looks badly traced

>>6546909
The logic behind boobs physics is to think about them as water balloons taped to the ribcage
If you're still learning the basics it's just normal though, don't worry about it too much. Lately I've seen multiple people asking about references, make peace with them because you are definitely going to keep using them as long as you draw. Even if you're experienced you can maybe do the basic structure correctly out of imagination, but you're going to end up using the ref for details anyway

assuming he can simulate water balloons interaction in his mind.

>>6546983
>implying he can hold a pencil
>implying he even owns a pencil

How many times should i do the Keys to Drawings exercises?

>>6547008
7

>>6547008
I get why you'd ask that, but that's kinda like asking "guys how many times should I do bicep curls"

>>6546784
>>6546819
Thank you anons, I dont have a blog right now

>>6546730

pretty much absolute beginner here, not looking to make it big as 2d artist but more as hobby
what do i learn to get to pic related as quality?

>>6547059
Yeah i know it's a weird thing to ask. I'm asking because the book doesn't have a clear indication on if i should redo an exercise or how many times i should do it. Maybe i should Just Draw

>>6547086
Draw it and post here

does anyone know the sauce on this

>>6547086
>how do i do the bare minimum to make coom art
just use AI

>>6547110
Home Alone 1

>>6547098
no, i mean in terms of what tutorials should i focus on
id be satisfied with achieving just this as an end result and nothing too complex beyond that
but what do i watch and what do i start with?
proportions, some simple anatomy and gesture drawing?
do i need anything else?
>>6547112
i dont want a bare minimum ai coom art i want to learn how to make sketches that look similar in quality to this
what do i need to learn to get there fastest without wasting time on stuff that are not needed

>>6547148
this is like one step above a gesture drawing and you could prolly fill a pixiv with shit like this, post once a week on twitter with this, and get enough money flowing to your patreon for a studio apartment in a small town

>>6547086
Perspective, figure drawing, soft body physics a little plus internal anatomy if you are going to be the same kind of degenerate as the author of this drawing.

he is screaming because he can't draw (drawn from reference)

>>6547148
If you're not willing to just draw right now, don't even bother.

>>6547148
>>6547086
Figure drawing and a lot of head drawing.

>>6547148
What you want is impossible. Once you reach the level you now see as "okay", you'll also be able to see the problems with it, and will no longer be satisfied with it. You will never be good, and if you ever feel like you are, it means you've stagnated. The striving towards art must, in the end, be enough.

>>6547089
No, that was a cunty response on my part, sorry man. Looking at the book, there's a self critique section at the end of every chapter. I would say practice until you're ticking yes on most of those boxes? It seems made to be done in order.

I got my first commission today. I had no idea if someone would even want the result of something I'd draw, so I just said I'd do it for 5€.

>>6547263
Probably some teenage lunastra found you and wants some artsy dreamboys

This is a continuation of the theme from last thread. It was a harder pose for me with a character I haven't drawn as much, but I swear I put all of my effort before I started hating the process.

I feel like i made some signifigant jumps. What do you all say?

>>6547148
>what do i need to learn to get there fastest
Otherwise known as the bare minimum. If you're unwilling to invest the time to properly learn how to draw, then there's no difference between using AI to generate your art and asking for shortcuts to arrive at the same place.

Thoughts on doing Loomis's drawing the head and hands with a dip pen instead of a pencil? Im kinda sick of using pencil desu

>>6547226
this post is like a crystallization of the reason why 99% of people on 4chan are bitter, miserable fucks. learn to enjoy things

>>6547354
kek. you're totally correct, but so is he.

>>6547226
This means a lot because despite being miles better than I used to be I feel shittie and less confident than when I started lol. I guess that's just how it be

Why is it so fun to scribble draw? Are there any downsides to learning how to draw like this or should one wait until they have other foundations covered? I heard scribble drawing was a good way for an experienced artist to "start back at square one" and remove any bad habits. I'm a total beginner, though.

>>6547378
My /beg/ take of the month. You can form bad habits as well as remove bad habits. Scribbling is the essence of just draw, but mindless drawing is only "good" to a certain extent. If you think you dread over small details too much then you should try scribbling more.

Any crits on what i should focus the most? I feel like feet and muscles are my biggest weakness,but wanna make sure…

My sketches are pretty messy so,sorry if is hard to see something…
Any good tips to improve as well?

I’ve been trying to use references many years ago,but i find drawing with them harder than just from memory,so i tried just drawing the same things over and over again from memory until today…
I don’t want my art to look too much realistic when my art style is…I don’t know,kinda a mix of everything? (stylized?)

I have lots of time and i just got Loomis book,so im gonna try to learn something from there as well,i just want a general crit in what i should focus more other than muscles and legs/feet.
Maybe an advice on how to find and use a good reference?
I really wanna try using references after so long…

>>6547396
Holy moly,this sketchpage is gorgeus

>>6547407
Do figure drawing every day. Get an image and draw it for 10 minutes, then get another image and draw for another 10 minutes.

quickposes.com
line-of-action.com

>Ernest Norling, chapter 1: "draw a box :)"
>Guy behind drawabox: *yelling and shadow boxing uncontrollably*
Really but Is drawabox just about boxes tho

>>6547407
Look at the top right front facing figures pecs they're covering waaay too much of the rib cage, shoved the navel out of place too. Your heads are weak and your necks are thin.

>>6547418
Thanks so much! Does it need to be exactly 10 min?
Should i just draw lines first and then go with the flow,focusing on the details just after figuring out the pose?
I never did figure drawing before…so sorry for the questions…and thanks for the advice anon!

>>6547443
Oh yes,i was not focusing too much in the heads,i should probably make a sketchpage of my detailed heads too…the neck is really thin now that i look at it too,Thanks anon!
I’ll try to focus more on the rib cage,too.

>>6547418
Do this, but only spend 60 seconds max on each image. Try to get a sense for the overall pose without getting into detail, and jot it down as quickly as possible.

>>6547407
Not bad by /beg/ standards, but do you have any more finished work? There's nothing wrong with drawing faceless mannequins, but it probably shouldn't be all you do.

>>6547418
>line-of-action.com
>options for only nude teenage girls
o i am laffin. i know that's not what you think it would be (i assume) but it makes for a great fbi open up meme opener.

>>6547487
>Your selections match 0 images
Why they gotta oppress decent pedophiles?

difficult
everything in full frontal becomes 10x more challenging

>>6547396
What art school do you attend?

>>6547396
mogger

>>6547487
Line of action is fucking awful. Plus the layout have something scummy, gives big "malware is waiting you behind the corner" vibes

>>6547507

tired. beg. The second part of the bargue has bunch of drawings from various french artists. and book recommended only to copy some of them which i will happily obey.

>>6547378
there are different types of lines and despite the popular opinion no, they are all ~equal. Draw in whatever style you want. Some artists use million strokes, some only twelve. Some do bold lines with permanent maker, some use light strokes with hard pencil. All said and done you should still be able to use clean lines.
>>6547352
i am doing all the books in digital and simply picking up brushes which are emulating the targeted trad medium and so far no art police busted my ass yet. go for it!
>>6547340
fat toriel
>>6547317
thats definitely interesting one but needs imho a bit more polish
>>6547263
based, from now on you are PRO since people are paying you. also that manticore isnt bad at all! you can feel the form from it! btw next time use the marks left from the markers to your advantage: look up what crosshatching is and when you are coloring some piece, fill the color in the form shape so it is even more pro
>>6547194
sharpen your pencil and give a go to keys to drawing
>>6547008
either you havent finished chapter 1 yet or you completely forgot what you read in that chapter. In ideal scenario you will need just one try on every project. Then at the end of chapter you get questionnaire and self-evaluation and there if you evaluate you missed the point or failed the objectives of the projects you redo it.
>>6546906
remember anon, only tools and fools. drawing crosshair or outright whole table on ref is a crutch BUT a very powerful one. Eventually you should get gud enough to not need it
>>6546899
remember what they felt like the last time you were with a busty girl
>>6546848
no shadows on the wall, both figures are very stiff, the guy doing the punch has dislocated shoulder, and i would imagine legs in completely different position. I recc doing some gesture grind and looking up boxing ref

>>6547110
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/9zyaN

You are going to make it.

>>6547479
>Thanks so much! Does it need to be exactly 10 min?
I want you to draw long enough so that you can get the figure down accurately. Doing scribbly gestures is mostly something only professional animators benefit from.

>>6547480
For learning construction and anatomy, you need longer

>>6546570
get a pencil and pen, a hard surface or clipboard and some copy paper or an a4 sketchbook
draw what you like, or just copy berserk. accept the fact that for awhile your work is going to suck and just go at it
when you're ready read the sticky or look up the dave finch roadmap to drawing comics. a big thing that kills it for beginners is realizing there's so, so much to learn and draw. focus on enjoying the process and learning your fundies.

I need some critics on this one, I will come back to this drawing in 2 to 3 weeks to make the corrections, in the mean time I will start another

>>6547797
thanks bud

>>6547797
Thanks :^)

>>6547739

>>6546735
Draw from photo reference and copy artists who are better than you.
3D and mannequins are only useful for a rough idea of a pose in perspective, not anatomy. The muscles don't tense and relax how they should.

>>6546576
>>6546664
>>6547887
thanks for the help bros, i think i'm just gonna try to draw cool shit with the assistance of reference material, and learn the fundamentals as i go
but mostly i just want to have fun with it
i appreciate your responses a lot, they're good for giving me a better perspective
i am about as much of a beginner as one can be, so i really had zero clue where to even begin lol

>>6547956
>so i really had zero clue where to even begin lol
Keys to Drawing
Don't bother with expensive sketch paper or art pencils yet, just get some printer paper and a pack of ballpoints at your office supply store, as well as a clipboard to draw on if you don't have a desk to use. Have about 10-12 sheets under the one you're drawing on to cushion it. Try to use an entire ream of paper this year!

>>6545814
>>6545780
This is fucking professional quality... best in the thread by far

I'm just posting this because I'm hype about my new black sketchbook and white marker, I've never tried such before. I love it how different it feels. It's like I found a new spark, and I don't even care if it's not correctly done for now because doing it just for the new fun of it feels ecstatic. Feels great to draw the light and my brain just creates the dark.
Everyone on Earth should have the joy of making pleasing things with their own hands.

Crossposting from the /alt/ thread, do these heads look uncanny?

Rofl

:p

>>6547974
not really. words cannot describe how much i hate the 3 line nose style, though.

>>6547974
the two on the lower right, the grey hair and black haired one have something a very little bit off about them, mainly the black haired one on center right. Sort of like you rushed through it, but it's also a strict side profile so there's no much room for detail.
Otherwise looks great, very nice emotions and especially the lower left has great lightwork.

>>6547982
u luv it.

Welp is done.
>>6547966
This is really good anon, do you have more?

>>6547988
Well not right now, it was literally the first thing I have ever made with white on black and wanted to rush it online to share my joy. And your answer, being the first one, gave me a great smile. Thank you anon.
p.s. I like the themes in your pic, classic ocean shore accessories. Is the cloth bra (opposed to classic clam shell bra) because she is not a mermaid but more of a jaguar?

>>6547974
Not a fan of the 3 line noses

>>6547988
Had to do a radical crop because I was used to drawing with a pencil and fucked it up with the white marker.
It's an old Swedish folklore about a troll woman proposing to Mr. Mannelig with mythical gifts but Mannelig turns her down because she is not a christian woman.

>>6547994
Well you have a good grasp of shapes and form as well as light, in that one i could see how my brain made the rest of the picture, is a cool effect, may try it as well
>she is not a mermaid but more of a jaguar?
Kinda, is like an islander tiger elf thing, instead of fur it has smooth skin like that of a shark or dolphin, i like to draw weird women.
>>6548017
This one is also well done, do you have a Blog? I like your stuff.

Hands are hard but they are not as hard as faces

>>6548027
>do you have a Blog?
Nope, thought of such a thing scares me. And I don't really draw often enough to make it feel worthwhile. But since you asked, you created the idea in my mind and who knows maybe I'll create one.
>like an islander tiger elf thing, instead of fur it has smooth skin like that of a shark or dolphin
Yeah the reason I guessed jaguar is because jaguars hunt in water as well as land. I did notice the hand fins and the tiger shark kind of pattern. Well done anyway because a random person's guess didn't hit far from jackpot. The forearms and thighs are pure sex.

>>6547985
Looking at this again, the arm is posed somewhat strangely on the grey-haired one. As for the black-haired one, I just suck at side profiles, lol.

>>6547982
>>6548007
I made some variations to the nose, do any of these look better?

>>6548087
>Looking at this again, the arm is posed somewhat strangely on the grey-haired one. As for the black-haired one, I just suck at side profiles, lol.
Minor things with such great facial impressions.
The first nose is def the best out of those imo

Having a very hard time positioning the other hand here, the angle is awkward.
Suggestions?

>>6548087
1 and 4 are my favorites

>>6548028
Push the pose way more, unless you're going for an atelier style accuracy

Keys to Drawing exercise 1c - Draw a Green Pepper* from memory and then again using a model.
The exercise said to try and add some shading, but I think that made it look worse

*All I had on hand was an apple, so I did that

>>6548108
Good shape, looks like remains of a fat apple. Don't be afraid to use stronger lines on the shadow side

>>6547979
Her torso is too short. Her arms would reach all the way down to her knees

I am in dire need of help

>>6548028
>>6548105

sometimes I reference thumbnails

I must earn money
>To earn money, I must create a portfolio
>To create a portfolio, I must draw
>If I draw, I improve
> Because I have improved, I can't put garbage art in my portfolio
> create again. This time with improved skill
> Improve while making the piece
> Can't put garbage piece in portfolio

My portfolio is still empty and I am in pain

How do you anons find the will to continue drawing at an ultra beginner level?

I can't draw straight lines, my circles are shit, my ovals aren't the same if you split them in two, and I can't seem to not use my elbow when I should be using my shoulder.

Every time I practice drawing basic shapes, I feel like quitting since I dont see much improvement.

>>6548124
Do not look at the results too long, and draw away.
A week or two ago, I copied all of Bridgman's life drawing book, simply because it was fun. But if I had stopped everytime a drawing was embarrassingly bad, I wouldn't have managed to get through it.
I understand your frustration, but progress is a long term thing. It only comes in retrospect.

I have found my new favorite thing, and it is this white pen on black paper. Makes me so happy to draw in this new way after I've been drawing with pencil on white paper for 25 years

>>6548154
That looks sick as hell anon.

>>6548159
First of all thanks and second, I know! Feels so good to do it and look at it and you just smile because it was fun.

>>6547412
These are copies. I try to work on accuracy rn.
>>6547528
No school. I do a bit of studying, gestures, copying and original drawings rarely.

hello i am new here when do i git gud

How do you study polygonal models?

Am I on the right path?

>>6548174
Buy a ruler

>>6548169
As soon as you want

>>6548219
Yes
What else do you want me to say?

>>6548238
Im thinking of concentrating all my energy in one final graphic novel project
I don’t want to waste my time if people say that I’m not on the right path and it will turn put dissaponting

>>6548241
>I don’t want to waste my time if people say
Who cares what people say?
What do YOU think about it?

ok, so how.

haha yes, i missed the vp every single time.

random sketch

>>6548254
Try looking at where you want your line to go, instead of looking at where is it.

>>6548161
I'll try it one of these days, but I don't think I have the skill to make it shine like you do just yet

>>6548259
try making sense

>>6548264
NTA but he's saying exactly what you need to hear.
Look at the destination of your line, not at your hand.

Just an update of my pic.

>>6548264
jesus you sound like an insufferable faggot

>>6548268
thats what I did damnit.

>>6548283
Do it more carefully, or slower. If you really aim for your destination point, you shouldn't miss the mark like you do.
It doesn't matter if your line is wobbly. Force your hand to go to the destination you're aiming for

>>6548292
>slower
>It doesn't matter if your line is wobbly.
well. Time to throw out what I learned about straight lines and confident strokes I guess.

>>6548297
Going fast is a meme.

>>6548298
yeah they say the same about DaB yet here I am doing the meme cause it's apparently the only way I can learn anything.

>>6548302
Sign of autism.

shittin, poopin
shittin, poopin

>>6548303
dont talk to the diagnosed autistic about signs of autism. I know.

welp thats my two pages he called for. I did my best.

>>6548310

>>6548315
Hey the man said 2 pages. I did 2 pages. Theres a no grinding rule.

Here's one from the vaults...

Too Much Alice.

(There is a story connected to this,and I will tell it if asked )

>>6548117
always runnin outta space

>>6548340
what book is she on?

>>6545551
This one's great but since you're having problems with your art I'll be picky. The two characters from the left are basically facing the viewer straight on, their faces look flat, their eyes are perfectly parallel with the horizon. That doesn't look very natural, what are the chances of finding these poses in real life? The third character looks much more alive for this reason. Another nitpick is that you could push the perspective a bit more, even on the third character, and by overlapping forms and exaggerating the perspective a bit your characters might pop even more. But, again, this is great work regardless.

>>6548340
I like it
Really wish people did more sculpture stuff, but seems a thing that nowadays is picked up mostly by asians and it's kinda unpopular in the west

>>6547418
I did these two,is this a good start? Exactly 10 min,nothing less,nothing more than that!
I made them pretty fast and then tried to focus on the scale of things,and when it reached the 10 min limit i compared to the original photo…am i doing this right?

>>6547480
Im scared i shouldn’t be able to do it lfmao,but i could try,once i feel like im ready,so thanks!

>>6547486
I do have some finished works,none of them were too much concentrated on the anatomy tho,as i just noticed i have a problem with it now lol
I’ll send in a sec after i organize it!

Newfag here, few question as i start out,
Where and how do i start a drawing wether it be on paper or digitally, and how do these look? all of these were drawn by copying a refference image which make me feel pretty shit

Lemme tell the story briefly...

I was at a WorldCon in Philadelphia in the late 80s. It's where the Nebula awards for genre fiction are handed out, so it's a huge event. This one had a dual theme : Louis Woo's birthday (A fictional character from the Ringworld books I think),and Alice in Wonderland. There was a big party to open the convention, and part of the decorations were mannequins constructed of canvas heavily painted. The morning after,the people who held the party were selling off these props to defray costs, and I picked up an adolescent girl sized doll. I drew the face on it,and slit open it's throat. Earlier in the day, I bought a ball that played a girl's screaming once the contacts are touching flesh,so once I saw the girl doll for sale,I had the idea to insert it into the neck so when you grabbed her throat she'd scream.

The other 25 people who were camping out in the suite we rented together made a shrine of her. And I think that a photo of that is in some fanzine mimeograph newsletter.

So when the convention was over,I had to figure out what to do with the doll. I was getting home by a long bus ride, and no way in hell was I going to drag a little girl shaped doll around. So I tore off her head and wrapped it up in my sleeping bag and left the rest of her in the hotel.

Here’s some who i at least “tried” to focus on the anatomy
(First one kinda censored lol)
My lineart/colors are pretty simple compared to my sketches but…well,that’s another problem to focus later on (i think!) >>6547486

>>6548174
i don’t have a good answer, but gao hang might be worth studying

>>6548393
Generally, you begin by blocking in your subject. Start with basic shapes, then gradually adding detail.

Interested in visual humor

>>6548207
I like it it's cute

Will I get more out of this if I copy Bridgman first (or throughout)? Already seeing some improvement from Drawing the Head and Hands.

>>6545008
Come here my little pepe

>>6548517
I did vilppu first(+his anatomy lectures) for figure drawing desu and it made Bridgman really ez

>>6548517
Loomis recommends Bridgman relatively early, in the second chapter or so. Most of Loomis' book is about shading anyways, so it's better you get your construction and anatomy down asap.

However, before you start Bridgman, it's good to have some experience drawing basic forms. Loomis recommends a mannequin drawing routine, but you could also do Vilppu: >>6548527

>>6548263
It's easy really. Just draw the light and where there's more light, do a thicker line. Imagination fills out the shapes in the dark. So a bit of patience to not draw all the lines and some 3d thinking to figure out where the light touches.

Feeling kind of stuck, like I'm drawing the same thing over and over again. Any input please?

>>6548639
There's definitely a proportion problem with your torsos most noticeable in 2 4 and 8.
Here's a good general resource for figure drawing https://www.youtube.com/@lovelifedrawing/videos

>>6548639
There is no construction or form. You need to abstract the human figure into 3D shapes.
Learn 3D shapes, and then do some gesture drawing

I am learning on how to make better drawing asnd studying color, please rip this to peices, I do see it off, but i don't know exactly what it is that is bad, besides the creases of the shirt, It is zelda working as a little caesars employee and being sad about it

>>6548657
It has that shitty design doll quality. I think it's safe to assume you're relying too much on cheap tricks, which in the end is not doing your drawing any favors.

>>6548673
>cheap tricks
NTA but what is cheap tricks in drawing? How can you trick a drawing? I have never heard of cheap tricks when drawing. You either draw what you see or not and that's that.

>>6548673
do you mean because of the pose? it looks to unrealistic or not dynamic? do I have something going with the color and lighting or am I completely off?

thank you :)

>>6548683
I think I get what they're saying, I did use a pose thingy on the internet, i didn't copy it directly but i did rely on it to do the pose

I love drawing booba like you wouldn't believe

>put six curves on a paper
>create the juiciest thing you will ever see

I'm seething, I'm coping, I'm not yet roping
>m0way
^Captcha

My nephew wants to draw with me, do you guys know any kid-friendly foundational books? I think I could read Drawing Comics The Marvel Way with him, maybe, but he's going to want to understand form and volume and 3d space and some slight perspective before he'll really "have fun" imo. Perspective isn't too hard to teach the basics of; I think show him some natural vanishing points, point out the trees get smaller, find some buildings in perspective and have him point out where their "lines" go, demonstrate eyeline by literally just picking him up and putting him down, draw some boxes in a thumbnail and show him that. Form and volume though are just something you need inculcated in, maybe we can learn that as we go. Any ideas? I'm sure he just wants to draw a hulk but it could be worthwhile for him.

>>6548739
you could try this, I am trying this challenge myself, it goes to the very very basics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5AV42mgAe0

>>6548739
I think the "Drawing on the right side of the brain" by Betty Edwards is pretty much the simplest book about drawing stuff. With some different techniquest it teaches the reader to draw what he sees and that's really all you need.

>>6548751
SEXOOO
those fucking buttcheeks man

>>6548743
Maybe a short series of crash courses on forms like that will work. Even clever people have to work for like 90 days to really grasp "sculpting" your forms out. He might not make it the month, but possibly with little drawing tricks he can apply week by week and build on he'll do something.
>>6548746
I enjoyed this book very much personally but I think he would quickly tire of how academic it would appear to him. He obviously would be into Marvel, and he'll have fun with short rewards by drawing and identifying when something is "up," or "down," it's hard not to plan something out that will just bore him tbqh. I think going to draw a cool guy and having nothing come out is the most boring which is why I had the thought to inculcate some basics and make his drawings that much nicer than other 9yos but who knows.

>>6548746
this book is shit

>>6548739
use exercises from fun with a pencil but draw some pokemons or minecraft characters or something instead of chibi, gay ass old men. kid will love it

It is dishearting that no one else intrested with what I done most of the time. And I'm not sure it just pure technical thing.

>>6548751
Very nice

>>6548493
I like it a lot

hello beg. i fucked up the woman head. its over. the permabegosis already set in, the edge of the face, chin and cheeks are wrong

>>6549018
where is your PYW?
>>6548731
i know that feel
>>6548689
based booba appreciator
>>6548493
thumbs up for originality, thumbs down for perspective and too great simplification
>>6548398
i like the demon the most. very simple yet solid and appealing
>>6548393
you want to start in simple medium. Both trad and digital offer such thing. I recc book Keys to Drawing to generally get majority of fundies. Pics are solid
>>6548340
lmao. Is this some secret sculpting technique where you use ball as base? What am i even looking at?
>>6548169
when you read the sticky and pick up keys to drawing
>>6548124
there are two types of people: people who quit and people who make it (or die trying). I am not giving up (yet). Simple as
>>6548122
if you sort the collection by date (which is like default on all websites), then almost nobody ever will scroll long enough to see your old shit. Or you can use devian art where you can boot away pieces from your featured gallery without removing them. Nobody on DA even knows there is secret "all art" gallery
>>6548108
>he ate his reference before drawing it
lmao
>>6547988
i kneel

where the FUCK are pre/beg/s meant to go?

>>6549084
>>>/i/

>>6549061
>i like the demon the most. very simple yet solid and appealing

Thanks! Is a friend Oc :}
I felt very proud when i first drew it even if i later saw it had lots of mistakes i could fix or change if i wanted to…
Thanks a lot anon.

Any critique? I have a hard time with faces so idk what to do with her face. Also had a hard time placing her left ear thing.

What do you think, I try to correct my own anatomy with reference but I think I did it wrong. Anons told me to learn perspective so I will finally go pick up perspective made easy.

Starting to scratch. This is sharpie pen but it should've been Gtec c4

>get a coloring job with a big publisher thanks to an art teacher that probably felt pity for me
>do the job, get published
>almost six months and three reminder mails later, I have still to get paid
In what kind of fucking timeline have I ended if porn commission people are a more reliable employer than fucking books majors? what the fuck man

>>6545008
decided to experiment. any advice?

>start posting in drawthreads
>start getting those half-dreams where you apparently see posts pointing out your mistakes and other stuff
>wake up, check
>nothing
welp

>>6549305
Do yo have some sort of contract that could be legally pursued? Not in "sue them" sense, but more of "remind them".

>>6549309
Try again.

Recently been trying my hand at this pic again and I have been really hoping to fix whatever problems in the perspective and composition.

I was wondering how well it has been going.

>>6549332
Yeah, and I'm using it exactly to remind them. But according to the teacher "they never respond to mails" so the only thing I can do is just keep reminding them this shit. Suing them would cost more than what they owe me, so even if I could I would just suck it up
It's fucking incredible holy shit.

>>6549291
sosu

What I want
WHAT I Want
What I Want

>>6549061

looks like a sad troll face meme

trying to just do random sketchs, with the rule of no zooming in and no ctrl z

>>6549413
is cat-buddy wearing chaps?

this anatomy shit is kicking my ass, but if it's hard it means I'm challenging myself, which should help me get better...

>>6549417
no i just suck at drawing perspective

>>6549413
is that Bill fucking Dickey

Loving Krenz. I haven't found anyone that has more detailed, idiot-proof step-by-step instructions

What is the recommended order for doing the Krenz courses - perspective rhythm color?

And the krenz notion site (https://asgg.notion.site/Krenz-238090f8a5934eb883fc644bef1d1214)) has a "SAM" course. What's that? What does SAM stand for? Where would it fit into the order.

>>6549445
yeah

>>6549350
• Wall behind them seems curved
• Wheeled chair doesn't feel like it's sitting on the floor properly
• Head on bottom left seems random / unneccesary
• main woman is really good IMO
• Cube to her right doesn't follow proper perspective (edges point away from each other instead of converging towards the back)

keep working

>>6548493
Guidm ist great at this. Lots and lots of weird, unique ideas: His IG: https://www.instagram.com/p/CLzqhsepkFK/

>>6549427
Great sense of volume, keep it up

NEW THREAD
>>6549514
>>6549514
>>6549514

>>6549061
>when you read the sticky and pick up keys to drawing
oh boy, time for my autistic self to take 5 years to go through 1 book because of zero focus