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If you're on a break after drawing and feel like sharing what's on your mind about what you're working on, the industry, things that excite you about art, or anything that frustrates you about drawing or the process of art then grab a cup of water and chill out here. Remember to keep the discussion on-topic as much as possible.

>> No.6521896

I like draw boys cuz they much hotter and pretty

>> No.6522177

>>6521896
Sounds kinda gay

>> No.6522366
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I like to draw aircraft

>> No.6524007

>hang out on another board with art adjacent threads
>people are surprisingly supportive and helpful
>only a few crabs
This is such a massive culture shock...

>> No.6524008

I really wish life didn't get in the way of drawing

>> No.6524011

>>6524007
good luck improving in hug boxes

>> No.6524045

>>6524011
They can explain color theory better than most of you dipshits, I'm already in the right direction.

>> No.6524049

>>6524007
Here we rape your feelings until you improve, /beg/tard

>> No.6524054

>>6524049
>How do you do, fellow /ic/ers

>> No.6524055

>>6524011
It's surprisingly not hard if you aren't a retard. Post your work.

>> No.6524060

>>6524055
Nta but why ask for their work if you didnt post yours either

>> No.6524069

>>6524060
Lurk more.

>> No.6524076
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6524076

>be drawing this blonde character of mine
>get distracted and look around my place
>at the left of me there's a painting I made of the same character for college
>go back and forth between the blondie in my screen and the blondie on the painting
>aside from seeing the obvious skill difference, I wonder about the days where she wasnt as special and look at how I've treated this character in retrospective
>move around the big doodle canvas, she's there
>as a shitty doodle, as a finished piece, as a study, she's drawn over and over
>realize I've barely drawn anything other than her
>chuckle as Im left wondering...
How did I let this happen?

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>>6524045
>>6524055
stay mad beg kek

>> No.6524846

I have come to the realization i’m a boomer and not cut out for digital art. I prefer trad art and grad supplies. I’ll stick with scanning my work like the old days.

>> No.6525092

>>6522366
Me too. They have their own anatomy just like people.

>> No.6525137

I have the feeling that I work very slowly. How long does it take to make a color drawing with a background? That shit can take me around three days.
>>6524076
Take the next big step, anon. Turn her into a tulpa.

>> No.6525195
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6525195

drawing ~2-3 hrs every day.

the rhomboids(or something around them) on my drawing side get sore/tight and my drawing arm feels weak as it gets worse.

anybody else ever have this problem? what do besides massaging and stretching the muscles?

>> No.6525662

>>6525195
Your posture is probably shit. What I do is lay down on a lacrosse ball, moving back and forth to ease up the muscle knot and I do this for about 10 minutes a couple of times a day for a few days. Chances are if it's hurting already, the problem's already been building up to that point so now you have to spend some TLC taking care of it.

>> No.6525811

>>6525662
> lay down on a lacrosse ball
oh shit the pain is real. it feels good though. thanks for the tip.

habitually lifting my shoulders up unnecessarily while drawing... that's gotta be it.

>> No.6525845

>>6521883
I cannot lie. I'm not coping well with AI. Art was the only thing keeping me hopeful enough to keep living now I feel literally gutted.

I feel much closer to becoming a hero than ever before

>> No.6525935

>>6525845
it's not the end of the world, you can always get a simple, minimal job to survive and do the art before work begins.
fuck the shrinking illustration/coomission market. when you become good enough at visual expression, you will have created a you that'll have enough demand to feed you.

>> No.6525946

>>6525845
Just ignore it.
The AI crap only effects 1 industry, and that's the minimum wage 3rd worlders who get abused for the sake of the entertainment industry. Its not a job you want to have.

For everything else, people want hand crafted work from humans. Nobody cares about generically good looking images. Just look at things like woodwork, the entire woodworking profession was industrialized ages ago, but hand made items still have huge appeal and people consider it "better". People go out of their way to buy handcrafted furniture.

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>>6525935
I spent over a decade of being a wagie while learning to draw and also keeping up with college. I dread about going back to that not out of laziness but because I want to fulfill my vision and I'm already rather old but thanks for the good wishes

>>6525946
I'm a 3rd worlder but I do not have any aspirations about working in the "industry" I would rather bet in favor of my work and hope people want to fund it. I have been living off exclusively from my patreon and this aligns with that. Unfortunately it has been down from 15.K$/month to 900$ and shit is starting to get worrisome.

I do try to hedge (I'm learning 3D, music and gamedev rn) and put out my best but the hill got waay more uphill than before and that's disheartening especially after knowing how SD fucked us in the worst possible way.

Heck at the very least dall e and MJ had the decency to hide behind an API.

Thanks also for the good wishes hopefully wagmi somehow

>> No.6526209

I can feel myself making small gains that stick and it feels great.

>> No.6526246

>>6526185
Damn, I've just been thinking about opening a Patreon account, but what you said made me hesitate.
Anyway, I sincerely wish you the best, anon.

>> No.6526410

>>6526246
Sorry. I didn't mean to scare you. I'm probably being overtly pessimistic.

By all means try it. I do believe crowfunding your work is the most sustainable way of making a living and be able focus on personal stuff + keep improving.

But be patient. Patreon is a long game and people are not used to support even the stuff they like this way.

I wish you the best too

>> No.6526447

>>6525845
you and me both, bud. the very existence of AI just gives more reason for people to dismiss your hard work, stomp on your ambitions and to even steal and profit from you. it's literally all done to spit on the human spirit.

my only cope is that artists were never really respected to begin with. we chose the hardest journey possible, but damn does it feel good to be able to actually create something and enrich yourself with your own blood, sweat and tears and it is ALL YOURS. prompters will never achieve this sort of feeling because they skipped the part where the hard work is involved so the result feels impersonal, like raising someone else's child.

>> No.6526456

>>6526447
I agree, the satisfaction of art is the journey and strive to be greater than yesterday, to get closer to God. I have a desire to see all creatives leave the industry leaving only AI proompters. I wish to see the entire entertainment industry collapse. I say feed the consumers AI garbage to accelerate the crash of creative industries, we will get the last laugh as we watch the consoomers eat up their AI art, caught in the infinite ouroboros of AI consumerism like the bugman drones they are. Let them become zombies and let the artists draw and flourish on their own.

>> No.6526459

>>6526447
eh the pretentious faggotry aside, actually learning to work hard and put effort into something is an invaluable skill.

especially as the generic faggot that just coasted through school and college and landed a genricly easily computer job. I never really had to work at anything until I picked up art.

>> No.6526461

>or anything that frustrates you about drawing
Everything I do is so randomly inconsistent like some guessing game, the end result is out of my control in how it may appear so I feel like I don't actually know anything at all. It's so stressful. Idk how anyone can be so consistent at what they do at a moderate to high level. To say "Yeah this is how I intended in my head.". But nope for me it's a game of "What worked and felt so natural one time before may not work right now, too bad!". What a slap in the face. Maybe I should just grind more and quit bitching idk, praying that will be of help.

>> No.6526468

>>6525845
same, but its less about jobs(i am hobbyist) and more about how little regard for ethics these people have, they openly do not give a shit about your or your rights because they know they can get away with it. Hearing them openly say that they wont use copyrighted material for their music AI because they fear the (((music industry))) was very scary and demoralizing, i really hope the law sides with the artists but its very unlikely considering who has the money and connections.

>> No.6526517

>>6524007
I've met way better and friendlier artists than I've ever met on /ic/ on other boards. It just sucks that you have to sift through requestfags and botfags

>> No.6526524

>>6526447
I was thinking today about how a big part about what makes art interesting is the interpretation of reality. Prompters will never make their own art because everything they make will just be based on someone else's interpretation and not their own. Also though I agree with the sentiment that normies never gave a fuck about art in the first place and the only people that can really appreciate it are other artists and high iq individuals

>> No.6526530

>>6525137
I feel you, anon, Im also very slow as shit as well, but mostly because I get easily distracted and because I also have perfectionist issues. Ironically, when Im working on a deadline, my mind focused easier and it tones down the perfectionism a lot. You just need to find what is making you take so long and work to correct it.
>Take the next big step, anon. Turn her into a tulpa.
lmao hell no, Im autistic for her, but not *that* autistic. Besides, I already experienced first hand and by complete accident a knock-off version of the tulpa experience with another character I made and it was a genuine emotional nightmare.

>> No.6526571

I’m not improving as much as I would like, but I also don’t feel like trying to adjust my learning process to make it happen. I think I may try more painting so I can train my eyes more to use colors and value for form instead of lines for now.

>> No.6526598

every day its like I forget how to draw. I have to re calibrate my tablet and recreate my brush and warm up until im used to the pressure sensitivity.

>> No.6526731
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Fucking wasted my time trying to impress old people that already missed the boat and are stagnant when I had a bunch of upcomer friends that were actually going somewhere

>> No.6526738

is it really wrong to only want to draw lolis with wide hips and thick thighs?

>> No.6526780

>want to draw cute little side comics for my shitty OCs so I can get used to the process
>just sit staring blankly at the screen for 6 hours
It’s so much easier drawing floating anime girls…

>> No.6526813

I don't draw women because I'm scared of them

>> No.6526854

>>6526738
Not if it means you found your niche early. Are you good at it?

>> No.6526874

is it ok to use movie stills as reference? or is it looked down upon

>> No.6526879

I don’t draw women because I don’t know what to do with them. I pretty much only draw men in armor and the only times I did draw women was for them to look pretty but I don’t want to be a coomer.

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>okay I'll just sketch today, get some volume going with a lot of gestures and doodles
>end up "polishing" one pose and it snowballs into a full 8+ hour drawing
every fucking time

>> No.6526887

>>6526185
You used to make 15000$/month?? What were you drawing and can i check your page?

>> No.6526896

>>6526447
>>6526456
You probably draw cartoon porn or pop media fan art, get over yourself

>> No.6526905

>>6525845
I've kind of grown numb to it after the spamming.
Idk about what will happen in the future but i like to draw and using ai to make art is lame so i'll just keep doing what i like to do for as long as i can.

>> No.6526908

>>6526854
Some dude replied to my latest piece with "Hngggg" so maybe? Idk, i really like those type of girls. I love me some nicely developed hips and squishable thighs so i'm even really drawing lolis at that point? To normos it's all the same, sure, but from what i've seen /lsg/ hates wide hips and big asses.

>> No.6526926

>>6526896
kek, I do draw my own comics inspired by anime style because of my cultural background but I don't consume pop culture anymore and I also do a plethora of things such as oil paintings of master copies and landscapes. I also have no social media presence so I don't do coom. I have no issue with pop media artists and I don't look down on any form of art. It's the predatory nature consumerism has on the populace, not the art itself that I have an issue with. Drawing pop media is fine and dandy because at least you're creating for yourself, while consuming is inherently predatory. The entertainment industry was made to prey upon the population. This is why I would never want to be a part of the entertainment industry, I want people to draw their own ideas, whatever it may be is no issue to me, as long as they are improving themselves instead of consuming something else someone made. I want to see consumerism destroyed because I want people to start creating for their own meaning, values, and love. I come from a place of love, friend.

What someone draws is no concern to me. whether it is classical-inspired or coom, as long as they are creating and trying to improve and enrich their own life with love I don't care. I just hate how consumerism ties people down from whatever it is they can achieve.

>> No.6526945

>>6526874
>is it ok to use movie stills as reference? or is it looked down upon
Tarantino has made a career out of copying other movies

>> No.6526984

>>6525845
Mind if I ask what part of it? If you're worried about them cutting into potential clients, I wouldn't worry too much about it because they were never going to be customers in the first place. They are the kind of people forexposure_txt talk about.

>> No.6526992

Funny to think how cyclical my life is. Around 6-7 years ago I went through the same story beats as now:
>No job, move in with my parents after breakup.
>Decide I want to be serious about my passion for art and start doing it more.
>Need to make money so look to programming as the fix.

This time around I have a bit more skills and experience. Sad to think how little I have improved in the years, but it is what it is. Wonder if I'll ever make some extra side cash with my work.

>> No.6527243

>>6522177
Drawing what you like is not gay

>> No.6527495
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i just wanna have fun, y'know? i want to sit and draw without having to worry about redoing the face a million times until it looks good, i know it takes time to reach that level, which is what demotivates me the most, i heard that the average time to becoming pro is 10 years, which means i still have to grind for 7 more years until i git gud.

>> No.6529756

I didn't expect the new jannies to actually do their jobs.
Good job jannies.

>> No.6529776

>>6529756
I just hide 95% of threads now

>> No.6529795

>spend almost 3 hours on a simple cute drawing
>give it clean line art and mostly steady lines
>finish
>hate it

It was meant to be simple and easy and something I couldn't not like the result of to boost my confidence. Drawing for yourself is a scam.

>> No.6529805

>>6526896
lmao spoken like an empty-minded consoomer. what does it matter what someone creates with their hard work? as long as it's productive for their spirit then they can draw stick people all day for all i care.

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>>6525845
Im not afraid because I haven't lost any money and keep hitting goals I set for myself but for the first time in my life I feel a burning hatred so violent that it keeps me up at night.
I try my best to repress it but I can't stop myself from despising tech worshipping AI faggots and the shit they peddle.
I do my best to keep it out of sight and not lose my time talking with these roaches l, but sometimes I can't help thinking about it and it throws me for a loop, it distracts me and I don't get how to snap out of it or fuel it into something good.
This shit unironically lives >rent free in my head and I don't get how to stop

>> No.6529896

>>6527495
Keep in mind it's just a number and you shouldn't take it literally. You can draw badly for 10000 hours and you wouldn't get better. The real point is it takes time and practice to improve and 1 year of progress is better than none.

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How do you meet an artist friend group?

>> No.6530235

>>6521883
didn't jannies ban these threads or did they just fall off the face of the earth for no reason

>> No.6530252

>>6530235
when they see it they delete it.

>> No.6530677

Eh, currently either doodling random shit or work on various large military scenes. Said large military scenes being stuff I want to dedicate this year to make it. Cuz dear lord I miss the pride and fun of drawing combat scenes with a shiton of people

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Oh, and here's the WIP of the current one I am making

>> No.6530720

>>6524007
Somewhat my first experience of 4chan in 3 sentences

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>>6530121
Join discords, don't act like some insufferable terminally online autistic, actually listen and engage the people in their discussion and interest and join voice calls everynow and again. I've been in enough servers here to know that many of you join servers, text for a bit, become mia after a week, then wonder why you still don't have any friends. You have to sociable people aren't going coddle the quiet guy.

>> No.6530837

>>6530835
>terminally online
stop

>> No.6530845

>>6530837
It's true though when your entire life experience revolves entirely around the internet you become a very boring person with crippling anxiety at best and an insufferable at worst person. Especially when you're complaining about culture war shit on the internet non stop to people who likely already agree with you. This is why terminally online get thrown around so much, you really do need to have life experience beyond sitting at your computer all day is you expect to become apart of a friend group.

>> No.6530856

>>6530845
I picture you as some snobby weirdo wearing a turtleneck and jacket and sipping a latte while constantly checking your schedule for a meet up with strangers you've never met before off of Meetup and in your spare time while you're waiting for your scheduled time you shit on people who aren't like you. It's rather annoying, really.

>> No.6530891

>>6530856
This is why you don't have friends

>> No.6530906

>>6530856
I think he gave some good advice, tear down the walls and be more sociable plus go outside is good advice
You can try to find some total nolifes who's sole passion is your hobby, they grind whole day and have a spark in their eyes when talking about art, but for that you need to go to art school... preferably in ancient Rome. Now it's impossible to find em

>> No.6530910

>>6530856
https://voca.ro/1k3UnFvo6nrV

>> No.6530969

>>6530856
you're a jackass

>> No.6530977

Loomis is a joke made to keep begs forever beg and you can't prove me wrong

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Don't want to make a whole thread, but I'm pretty sure the lolisho fags on twitter are counting their last days. Nsfw artists, camwhores and even academic study accounts are getting hit with censorship.

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>>6530969
tell me something I don't know

>> No.6530983

>>6530977
I haven't read his other books but he's a terrible teacher based off FWAP. He straight up says you don't need to have good lines at all only to throw exercises that absolutely need some level of line quality to work.
The first concept he wants to teach is sense of form and space but the way he frames it is just weird and confusing and the order is all wrong.

>> No.6530997

>>6530981
ELON DAFUCK U SMOKING

>> No.6531039

>>6530997
the guy might actually ban porn on the platform
unless that twitter fag on /pol/ is just larping

>> No.6531163

Best way to avoid trannies in your thread is to just use an AI image, too bad the entire board is filled with them

>> No.6531167

>>6531163
Trannies love AI though.

>> No.6531175

>>6531167
Try posting one in the OC thread

>> No.6531194

>>6531175
Try eating a gun.

>> No.6531197

>>6531194
After you

>> No.6531240 [DELETED] 

Lay out your biceps and triceps.

>> No.6531242

>>6531197
Lay out your biceps and triceps.

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Is this a good beginner's course?
>>>/s4s/10634090

>> No.6531714

>>6530981
Not sure in this particular case. But I noticed over a year ago that if you click the
>This might contain senstivie content
box on your account, ALL media posts will have the NSFW censor.
At the time there was no way to flag a single image as sensitive, it was either all your posts get censored or none of them do. and this was an opt-in flag you had to check on your account. I imagine if you got reported enough it would be turned on by twitter as well, but nobody ever saw my images anyways.

>> No.6531717

>>6531668
Its extremely basic, but its somewhat okay advice.

>> No.6531724

>>6531039
>unless that twitter fag on /pol/ is just larping
fill me in
I stopped venturing in those waters years ago

>> No.6531739

Life in the US is going downhill I think and idk how I can make it out on top as a drawfag

>> No.6531752

>>6531739
The world is going downhill mate. Not a single country is doing particularly well for itself right now, America just gets the coverage.

Do as artists have done for ages.
Draw fan art for the leading political party and sell porn to the rest

>> No.6531755

>>6531724
There is a guy on /pol/ that posts under some satan666 trip claiming to be elon, and the more recent twitter posts (sans trip) seem like the same person:
>>>/pol/417130748

>> No.6532294

You know how people say that starting as a kid gives you an advantage because you get mileage without worrying about producing shitty drawings? I realized that even as a kid, I only dabbled in various creative things without fully dedicating myself to something because I was afraid of fucking up.
The game was rigged from the start, LOL.

>> No.6532317

>>6531755
Genuinely wouldn't be surprised. CIA shills have been known to post there.

>> No.6532554

Going to an interview tomorrow, do I bring some sketchbooks too?

>> No.6532564

Do women actually have extra joints in their hand that make doing art easier?
>>>/v/628779187

>> No.6532584

I'm terrified of posting my work online or working with clients. What makes it worse is that drawing is my main job so I'm fucking crippled by this fear sometimes and end up not making money for months on end. I see other people posting whatever that comes to mind and being all open and shilling with passion and I can't even post one drawing without sweating bullets.

>> No.6532588

>>6532554
Yes
>>6532564
No

>> No.6532591

>>6532584
Why?

>> No.6532606

>>6532591
I guess I'm afraid of not doing a good job. For some reason I think everything will be over if I don't make something that will satisfy people.

>> No.6532656

>>6532564
Anon...

>> No.6532671

>>6532656
What?? Do they?

>> No.6532683

has there been any talk about doing something about the predictable low effort AI posts that are littering every thread in almost every fucking board?

any question, any topic, if they can find a tangent, sometimes even if they can't, they will shit a "just use AI" post

not to mention the obvious bait threads with nonsense topics and an obvious AI image

I have no idea if this is a concerted effort by pajeets trying to hype up the tech to sell shit in an upcoming AI bubble, if it's just a couple of frustrated autists trying to "hurt" people, or if there are actually a lot idiots out there who think AI art is good and want to spread the good word, but it's tiresome

I don't know how hard it is to filter or speed up the flagging of those posts without impacting genuine conversations, but I'm surprised I'm not getting constantly goatsed, so someone is doing good work somewhere, somehow

>> No.6532707

>>6532683
>has there been any talk about doing something about the predictable low effort AI posts that are littering every thread in almost every fucking board?
hiromoot doesn't give a shit about 4chan anon.
its time to move on.

>> No.6532714

>>6532683
just hide them, i realized the old jannies (new ones are actually doing shit) were doing fuckall so i just hid everything, you also end up browsing less

>> No.6532756

>>6532683
We need an iron fisted mod.

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I think fangs are cool, but I hate this faggoty pose, it's rawr XD given flesh

>> No.6533741

My brain felts like melting when I try to draw. I don't remember having shit like that when trying to program.

>> No.6534555

I made it guys, after 7 years. It's all thanks to you.
https://streamable.com/fydmpg

>> No.6534559

>>6532683
i stopped comming here after the AI spam last year, the board was practically unusable. Nowadays the board feels more dead, i remember the beg thread used to last 3 days max, and now it can last up to a week. Apparently /g/ has the same problem, so even they cant tard wrangle their own pajeets.

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>>6534555
Congratz!

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I can't think of anything more fucking pathetic than watching someone try to crawl back into a place after they tried to their damndest to undermind and destroy it. Bpd much?

>> No.6534639

>>6534629

That's me. I came back to said place and nobody seemed to either care or remember. Except for the guy (like you) who continues to watch people like me try to assimilate in peace. You're not "watching" you're waiting for a chance to pounce on that person to undermine them. And with that, you're the biggest queer of them all.

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6534676

>>6534639
Thats where youre wrong its always funnier to laugh from afar as retards try in vain to get in people good graces again. They lost their intergrity when they crawled back so theres no need to keep kicking the beating dog leaving them to grovel in silence as they fail to be accepted again.

>> No.6534680

>>6534676
Good. The parasite keeps its distance and laughs inside its own rubber room where nobody can hear him while the other person can rekindle friendships with familiar faces.

>> No.6534711

>>6534680
Nothing of value was lost and thats why noone cares to extend the olive branch. I won.

>> No.6534713
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>>6534711
>I won

The filth was sanitized and was prohibited from growing. You didn't win shit, I did. The entire time.

>> No.6534716

>>6532606
You can't satisfy everyone. If your work makes even a few people appreciate it, it's worth posting.

>> No.6534770

I just hope I’ve made a few men cum with my drawings

>> No.6534780

>>6533741
>try to draw again
>try to copy ref
>lines doesn't come out right
>head doesn't come out right
>eyes seem flat despite copying the damn thing because of some minuscule difference
>not even simpler style feel right
>something is always wrong
>even if I produce something decent by my skill level, the joy is fleeting
>my brain hurts on very thought of drawing
>but want to make the visions true, so I try again later
>there are thousands of artists who are much better than me
No wonder that artists are often insane in some way. No wonder many of them get stuck in comfortable level if they can afford to.
I'm going insane myself I think.

>> No.6534792

>>6534713
The funnies part is that you're convinced im talking about ic kek

>> No.6535618

>Nobody seems to really care about my art
>Needing some positive reinforcement
>Draw requests on other boards
>Not even a thank you
>Draw OCs here
>No thanks / barely a response
>Draw some porn in random threads on porn boards
>Tons of people responding with thanks and compliments
>Lots of positive reinforcements
>People just seem generally happy to get some art
I don't get why coom is looked down on.

>> No.6535670

>>6535618
look up what porn does to your brain

>> No.6535673

>>6535618
sex sells. pretty simple concept. prudes were probably abused as children and became unable to function sexually.

>> No.6535808

Wtf i love the new jannies now

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Jannies I know you read this thread, you are actually doing a good job lately so I don't want to shit on you guys. But can you start moderating posts inside threads too and not only the OP?
There are blatant troll posts from the usual spammers inside unrelated threads that really drag down the discussion.

>> No.6537828

>>6537815
jannies need to start handing out perma bans so they can kill this board faster.

>> No.6537847

>>6537828
>permabanning the spammers is going to kill the board
Are you one of them?

>> No.6537860

>>6537847
i’m implying the jannies and mods indiscriminately delete threads and posts which shuts down any legitimate conversation, particularly around the AI topic. don’t blame em they do it for free after all. you think they have time to read the nuance between posts? i already seen normal posts get deleted for no reason besides that it hurt someone’s feelings.

just go back to your normie social media. why ask to be governed harder on the one site where free speech is still somewhat relevant?

>> No.6537861

>>6537847
i literally got warned for telling someone "ywnbaw". start handing out permas, i'm sure that'll end well.

>> No.6537877

>>6537860
>i’m implying the jannies and mods indiscriminately delete threads and posts which shuts down any legitimate conversation, particularly around the AI topic.
There's no discussion to be had about AI and even so it's off topic. This board is about drawing and learning to draw/paint and if that wasn't the case other art related boards wouldn't existe (like >>>/p/ >>>/gd/ >>>/3/ >>>/i/ etc. Generating pictures has nothing to do with the board and is only posted to bait and mock people that dared learning a skill instead of sitting on their own asses.

>just go back to your normie social media. why ask to be governed harder on the one site where free speech is still somewhat relevant?
I don't use any social media and I'm surely have been on this website longer than you are, if you think moderation is not important you can honestly fuck off.

>> No.6537887

>>6537877
oh please, this board has gone to the tumblrina rejects who piss and cry at any hint of critique long ago. AI has been one of the most pressing topics in the art world and industry and it deserves discussion.

moderation should only be limited to bot posts and fed posting. how newfag are you, 4chan has infamously been under moderated and it’s what makes this place interesting and worthwhile to visit you dumb cunt. been here since 2009 so you can fuck right off.

>> No.6537907

>>6537887
Lax moderation is different from no moderation.
/a/ has strict moderation and is by far the best board on the website, the moderation was relaxed a bit in the last few years and the quality is going down thanks to the shonen general spam from tourist from /v/ and other boards.
/sp/ was CP posting hell before it got some moderation.
/v/ has become completely unusable thanks to the complete lack of coherent moderation.
Not all the boards can be /b/ because if that was the case other boards wouldn't exist in the first place.
>oh please, this board has gone to the tumblrina rejects who piss and cry at any hint of critique long ago.
Drama threads need to be moderated too it's one of the rules of the board.

>> No.6537919

>>6537907
pivoting arguments huh? what happened to “please jannies, govern me harder daddy!! in the threads this time!!”

like i said, only bots and fed posting (CP and glow bait and the like) should be removed. the community and anons have their own role to play. ignore trolling and bait, simple as. give (you)s to high quality posts. there was once a time the nigger word meant to filter normies and anons applied shaming tactics to morons who took easy bait.

>> No.6538105

>>6537887
>AI has been one of the most pressing topics in the art world and industry and it deserves discussion.
sure, make one thread and contain it there

"have you tried using AI?" or posting a bunch of AI images in response to "how do I draw jackets?" or whatever is not a "pressing" discussion, it's worthless, specially in threads that are specifically made by people who want to learn how to draw and paint

>> No.6538106

ic moderation should revolve around whether or not conversation has anything to do with actually making art with your own hands. This cuts through so much bullshit on this board without being a over moderated hellhole (to non schizos at this very least)

>> No.6538205

>>6538106
I agree with this.
AI discussion could be easily moved to >>>/gd/ considering it's much closer to Photo editing that it is to drawing.

>> No.6538209

>>6537887
>been here since 2009
yet you missed all of the ai discussion back in august until now
fuck outta here newfag, ancientfag here, been around since 2003
anyone that has to announce when they started going to 4chan is a faggot except me btw

>> No.6538230

>>6538209
ai is a constantly evolving topic and worth keeping an eye on so that artists know how to deal with these issues and find constructive ways to innovate and set themselves apart from the machine. as far as i know, no artists have been able to fight back except through flimsy protests because there are no serious places to discuss ai thanks to the screaming retards like yourself who only want to pretend it doesn’t exist.

you’re such a butthurt fag, i can tell you’re a zoomer because you don’t know how to read and follow contexts between posts.

>> No.6538232

I love the moderators around here: "don't discuss the hot topic in art", go back to the approved same old same old threads.

>> No.6538234

>>6538230


The issue is most AI threads on /ic/ are purposely curated to demoralize post with headlines starting "IT"S OVER" and "Your move, artlets?" and not actually trying to discuss it in a constructive manner.

Segregation is the answer. By putting AI on its own board we can live in peace. We don't hate you, we just want you on your own board.