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ignore the glowies. Let this thread die.
Not really, one thing I learned as a code monkey is that people are absurdly lazy and just give up on anything that requires more than one minute of thinking or pushing buttons. I've seen a guy pay literally 2 million $ for a machine and using it at 5% capacity just because he's too retarded to set it up properly and whenever our guys do it for him he fucks it up again, breaks it, and goes back to 5%Text prompts are already filtering some normies because the state of the art of promoting involves regex and weird arcane shit, if you ask them to download blender they'll all tap out and pay 5$ to some guy in India to proompt for them
>AIrtletards understanding what good gesture and composition is
>>6524216you dont understand, thats the only pose that he was able to make that the ai didnt make something retarded looking
>>6524229it can generate one pose accurately, but what about 2-3 people, what about a group scene with figures fighting and interacting? what about a painting about your emotional struggle through life? ai cells just dont get it
>>6524194You still need basic composition skills and then to pose bones, something that is too much of an effort for AIfags. The workflow will change, but the artists will adapt. Crypto- sorry, AIfags will always be losers
Okay? Still drawing.
>>6524194OH BOY! We reinvented 3D imaging software!
>>6524194you could do the same shit with mmd and img2img before, even make rotoscoped animations.aitards already reinventing the wheel yet cannot count the right amount of fingers with 200000 years of collective artistic experience
>>6524213>its a repost>shit posters broke the mind of innocent retards
>>6524213Why would the NSA give a fuck about we.
>>6524252we are sexy bc we draw so they wanna keep us down
>>6524194and yet nothing of value will be created because AI cucks have no creative bones in their body. prepare for an onslaught of doll like girls doing nothing interesting. >many artist do this anywaymaybe it's time they step it up a notch.
>>6524194>blenderYeah that's what I want in my software, more bloated crap.
So they reinvented rigging?
what no body wants to admit is how fast this shit is getting optimized for ease and accuracy. it was only around the latter half of 2022 when this shit became public knowledge and its clones and iterations are making break-neck improvements.if you were honest, you'd know you're no match for the combined efforts of a million artists in all fields. this isn't even about art anymore, it literally spells the end of humanity as we know it. good, legitimate draftsmen are a rare breed in our era, and that breed is about to become extinct. in the future, humans are going to be fatter, dumber and lazier; they'll look back at how people had once drew and painted manually and think to themselves how it was even possible. it will become lost knowledge, just like how today people are boggled by how the great pyramids were made in ancient times. history repeats itself and it's looking fucking bleak. if you don't believe me, look no further than a decade ago. no one even thought to trace 3D models or even photobash for digital art even though there was pushback when the trend began, and now it's become a commonly accepted practice in the industry as well as amongst novice artists. the same "artists" can't even draw without their crutches, and the difference is like night and day. even here on /ic/ no one bothers to read the books that are readily available for anatomy, color, and perspective like they once had in the conceptart.org era and all you see is coom and tumblr shit.enjoy being the last few real humans left on earth while it lasts.
>>6524257
>those people who thought they were going to become rich thanks to prompting and that "the art of the prompt" was the skill of the futureAre they on suicide watch yet?
>>6524264You know we can build bigger, better buildings than the pyramids today though, right?
>>6524194
>>6524194More
>>6524194another controlnet like model from tencethttps://github.com/TencentARC/T2I-Adapter
>>6524264>a decade ago. no one even thought to trace 3D models or even photobash for digital art even though there was pushback when the trend began, and now it's become a commonly accepted practice in the industry as well as amongst novice artistsWut. Of course people thought to do, and were doing, that a decade ago. As long as there's been an easy way out, people will take it, just like comic book artists have been tracing photos for years. I've always viewed tracing for finished pieces to be scummy, and outside of helping clarify principles, not even that great for practice.
>>6524268>One of the biggest mysteries about the Egyptian pyramids is the construction techniques used to erect them. The incredible feat of the Egyptians is all the more impressive when taking into consideration that over 2 million limestone and granite blocks were used to build the Great Pyramid of Giza.>Although it's slightly lopsided, overall the square sides of the 138.8 meter (455 foot) Great Pyramid of Giza – also known as the Great Pyramid of Khufu – are pretty damn straight, and aligned almost perfectly along the cardinal points, north-south-east-west.it's not even about the technology, it's about the grit, patience and ambition that ancient humans had that is unmatched to today's population. ask anyone to go recreate even a quarter of what they did with the same tools and they'll just scoff and hop on their iphones while sipping their goy juice and give some reddit tier pseud advice about how muscle and brawn are inferior to their "intellect". the humans of today are being conditioned to become grazing cows who can only depend on consuming product after product.
>>6524272>As long as there's been an easy way out, people will take itthat's my point. so what if i'm off by a few years, the bottom line is that now that ai exists, what is stopping artists from using it? especially as the tech becomes better. only the die-hard autists will be able to spot the differences between ai and legitimate work. the rest won't care and would even gaslight you into thinking YOU were in the wrong for pointing out how someone is a fraud and justify it.i'd wish for a nuke big enough to crash the entire existence of the internet if it were possible and the people responsible for the creation of ai if it means keeping our humanity in tact.
>another bait thread with the same imagesThe face that shitposters don't even post their own OC is fucking pathetic
i don't mind threads like this because it makes me glad to be an artist. every example of ai is godawful to look at. that gay ass anime pretty-boy columbo tops all.even ai can't give you good taste.
>>6524215Only a few autists are really going to take advantage of these developments. Unless you can streamline it it probably won’t see mass adoption.
>>6524281of course they're going to streamline it. google etc are all investing into generative ai to automatically serve custom generated advertisements and entertainment slop. stable diffusion and the other's all have an interest to attacking as many users as possible.
>>6524264https://youtu.be/k7wIluiBvZE
>>6524282Well I think this is a good time to start looking for land to finally set up my secluded artists retreat free from technology where I can paint all day and craft bombs to send to Google executives.
It really is over. There's no way around it. What I'm confused about is what to pursue in a world that wipes your ass for you.
>>6524264be the change you want to see, bro. every great artist stands outside their culture. Robert Crumb drew adult comics in a 1930s funny style while the mainstream was superheroes. Chris Ware learned to do traditional commercial lettering techniques BY HAND instead of using fonts. Miyazaki sure as fuck won't be using AI in a film.yeah, the world is always going to hell. but you don't have to follow, you can lead.
>>6524278>what is stopping artists from using it?AI-generated "art" can never replace the most crucial and enjoyable aspect of creating art. However, AI tools like automatically coloring a flat on a sketch or the new CSP function that offers automatic lighting are helpful because they make parts of the process more accessible and efficient. Although these tools are not flawless, artists do not require perfection.While I appreciate new technology and AI, AI-generated images are not the answer. They are not a tool, nor are they comparable to the impact of photography or digital art. Generating AI images does not require a specific skillset aside from the programmer, which makes it more accessible to everyone and leads to a desire to monetize it. At present, there are more disadvantages than benefits because there is a lack of regulation. Anyone can replicate or generate a vast number of images, resulting in potential misuse.
>>6524293It not being for you only means you'll be left behind, nothing more.
>>6524293It's a good thing, only the good artists will be left, the rest will be replaced with free or cheap AI and in the future it will give rise to even better artists since it'll be the only way to compete.
>>6524238Actually you can generate the bones from existing images meaning you can just take existing poses and compositions if you want. In a few weeks they probably generate the bones in pleasing random poses from scratch
>>6524293i think the line drawing to art could be helpful. Obviously not close to perfect rn, has many fuckups and struggles to keep to the line art. At what point do you think it stops being a tool though? Where's the line?
>>6524294there's no "being left behind" in art. good art was never dependent on technology, there's artists still making great art with crowquill pens dipped in ink (better than most digital art). that's what you /g/tards don't get.
>>6524301Supply of (quality) and demand. Like selling water at a lake.
>>6524299Pun not intended*
So are you guys ever going to make anything worthwhile or are you going to make endless shitposting threads with the same low res blurry pinups forever?I don't know a comic, a game or even just an actual good image for a change.
>6524194>it's overis it over like it has been over for the last 6 months or...? oh no this time it's really over drawbros, anyway i think i'll practice a figure drawing today and maybe composition
>the paradigm of trying trying to figure out complicated spells in image generation by trial and error and pulling lots of gachas has come to an endAnd apparently it's been replaced with the paradigm of learning 3D posing? It's not like the people who were shitting out kitschy garbage with AI suddenly develop taste from this, so I guess it's only over if your ambition is to churn out kitsch? >It's overDoes this mean you'll stop shitting the board up? I think we both know the answer to that question, but only your psychiatrist can help.Ban AI threads.
>>6524306The only thing keeping you afloat is the software not being normalfag friendly at the moment. That's it.
>>6524305We are still in Phase 1 of our demoralization campaign
>>6524294>left behindI guess you can't understand the important of the process is. It's not about the end result. Being an artist is more than producing good looking art. It's a way of life. When you learn to see the world as an artist it changes your perception on many things. You keep using these words "get left behind". We are not. In fact artist is constantly moving forward. There are more ways to create art than you can imagine. There are many things to focus this technology on but for some reason they are aiming at technical art. Art that requires high level of skills to produce. If all you want is be an artist you can create art through many mediums. But you prefer a machine to mimic the work of a technical artist rather than exploring ways for you to express yourself. It's sad really. You are defending a thing that is born out of human greed. The people behind this only cares about profit. They don't care about progress or even their users. They definitely don't care about artist.
>>6524310So you can't?
>6524309yeah yeah, 2 more weeks, this time it really is over, amarite?
>>6524308>It's not like the people who were shitting out kitschy garbage with AI suddenly develop taste from this, so I guess it's only over if your ambition is to churn out kitsch?No but it means that soon animation studios etc will be doing this, leading to less need for brushmonkeys :)
>>6524299it stops being a tool when it generates a complete image. The creation process, the problem solving, the feeling of finally finishing your own work. Those are important to human artist. Relying on these is like working at a factory checking products for flaws and filtering it out by hand.
>>6524313Trump won, get over it.>>6524311Applies to engaging with the artwork generator too. You engage with it and experience what it shows to you, which you iterate on as you please. Also this hand wavy artsy aspect is lost on the customer.
>>6524291i'm not even talking about just the span of my lifetime. i'm talking about how ai will hurt humanity more than it would help them. manual art will become a thing of the past. no one cares about how a bathroom tile is lovingly crafted by hand by a ceramics artist, people will just go straight to a department store for the manufactured shit even if the quality is shittier. i find it extremely saddening that my children will have to compete with a fucking computer if they wanted to pursue art. this is something that no one had ever had to deal with up until now.>>6524293how on earth do you imagine something like this could be regulated on any level? i don't think you understand the impact that this kind of technology will have beyond your immediate future, which is what ironically hurts artists and people as a whole.lets say that the governments around the world miraculously come up with some law that regulates ai that they all can agree on. an extremely unlikely scenario, in which you can guarantee they would use for their own nefarious agendas to make sure that YOU obey them and that YOU won't have any personal freedom of expression left.now lets assume that ai goes wild west because duct tape on bananas count as art. considering that less than half of the world's population has their iq in the double digits, how long before a rare legitimate artist like yourself is mowed down and harassed by millions of salty, jealous, ai crabs that doesn't have enough self-awareness to realize they are lashing out on you because you demonstrate a higher level of thinking than they do? have you not went through the same pandemic as i did where the quadruple jabbed sheeple rallied for the death of the unvaxxed because they were too stupid to realize they were lab rats for a fucking common cold that only kills the terminally ill, morbidly obese, and the elderly? 99.9% survival rate btw.
>>6524314So instead of CG cars and horses we'll get AI cars and horses?
>>6524317>considering that less than halfi meant more than half*
>6524316>Trump won, get over it.>the /pol/tard thinks that being antiAI is a leftist traitthis is your brain on /pol/tardism, i voted for trump and i'm going to vote for him again, but cope as much as you want pajeet, 2 more weeks, 13 hours, 56 minutes and 32 seconds sirs
>>6524318And ai characters
>>6524269When it gets down consistency and repeatable characters, it's literally just fucking over, there's nothing you can do by hand that the machine can't
>>6524194works with wireframe screenshot from a 3d scene. uhmayzin stuff
>>6524322>one more update bro>just one more update is all I need
>>6524324I'm waiting for it to be able to deviate from the cube shapes in this instance and just use them for sense of scale and positioning
>>6524325Well the gap keeps shrinking and there's not even a reason to think it won't reverse, that's to say the AI gets better than a human through being able to go through all of media, which no individual is able to do.
>>6524325Do you disagree that it has improved massively? I'm curious why you think they wouldn't be able to do some smart engineering and fix the flaws of the current systems?
>>6524328>>6524329AI art still looks the same since you started shitting on this board in September, if that wasn't the case you wouldn't waste the entirety of your day reposting shit you find on Twitter and instead you would actually create something worthwhile.
>>6524238AIfags don't hate artists, they just want more art, more quality art (not $5 low quality scribbles)Many artists will use controlnet (Sketching/posing/composition/storytelling), and dominate the art market, taking attention away from both proompters and manual-artists. Expect to see comics where every panel is illustration quality. I don't care who makes them, as an AI fag, that makes me happy, and I'm willing to pay.
>>6524317it can and it will. You seem to think AI is the only thing improving itself. Other fields are improving or forced to improve because of how fast AI is moving. It won't last.
>>6524331It's able to output varied artwork, people just lean towards pseudorealistic airbrushed pinups because it's the easiest to output because you just prompt shit like realistic and masterpiece
>>6524332>don't want $5 low quality art>want $5 high grade industrial standard art.kek. go neck yourself.
>>6524332>Expect to see comics where every panel is illustration qualityThose already exist and 99% of the people don't give a shit about them
>>6524332Agree 100%. You niggas will be able to put out so much quality stuff instead you niggas be crying. Ai will make whole new genres of art possible.
>>6524334you're incredibly naïve if you think humans can outpace technology at the same rate that it's going right now. if anything, humans will be the first ones to burn out while the machine keeps going.
Is this the designated shitting thread
>>6524332>>6524340you niggas are fucking retarded, i guarantee none of these ai fags knew 5 artists names before any of this shit came out and they suddenly needed some shit to put into their prompts
>>6524266I see girls like that every day in the street
>>6524343>Oh you like art?>Name every artists
>>6524316engaging what? sifting through hundreds of images to find that one perfectly generated AI poop?
>>6524347Why are they melting?
>>6524339No they fucking don't.Art like Murata's OPM or Witch Hat Atelier are very rare in manga, because how insanely time consuming and talent-demanding that art is.Now, you do have webtoons, which have that industrial AI art feel far before AI existed. The problem with webtoons, is because they are made by studios rather than individual artists, their stories feel incredibly soulless and generic.AI-art will bring out the best of both worlds. Imagine aka akasaka going ham with a fully colored idol manga..
>>6524343What's this cringe gatekeeping mindset? Your hobby doesn't make you special bud
>>6524350That's how they work
>>6524347you know im right, go look at the average anime drivel 99% of these "ai artists" are generating, if anything they MIGHT know the name of their 5 favorite hentai artists, but even that is pushing it
>>6524341kek. go take a cold shower anon. this is the reality. not some scifi novel.
>>6524353its not gatekeeping lol. you literally dont draw dude, you just dont get it im sorry, go look on twitter or wherever, notice how almost all artists are still drawing and painting? its not about "MAKE 1000000x PERFECT PICTURE NOW!!!"
>>6524351>actual AI shilling on the art boardKill yourself
>>6524302Differentiation. Just because there's a McDonald's everywhere doesn't mean steak restaurants are obsolete.Not that I would even put AI on the level of McD's. You can't even copyright AI, which puts it at a big disadvantage regarding IP (the big money).
>>6524351>Berserk>Made in abyss>The second half of Usogui>Anything by Oh!GreatAnd those are just from the top of my head without even looking up anything.
>>65243430Greg Rutkowski1Monet2Picasso3That landscape guy i think Kinkade?4Van GoghI can probably name 2-3 more, but i never usethem for proompting because it limits creativity of SD(the same Midjourney robodoll style is likely a symptom of this)
>>6524312We wouldn't know good art if it hit us in the face. We are not on a pathway to developing taste.
>>6524362its so fucking funny that those are the names of artists that you know, it really just goes to show how limited and shit your taste is, i know i sound pretentious, but its true
>>6524353but we are. in this field artist are gods. you? you are a nobody.
>>6524363>We Faggot impersonator
>>6524357oh i see, you're retarded or a nigger. carry on.
>>6524324Game engines in 2-3 years? If this was stable in real-time, it would take over for a lot of developers, while sloppier than traditional rendering, you just greybox your game and then craft a great prompt/set up some extra references?
AI art is deeply in the uncanny valley.Trying to make it "better"is a huge waste of time because most people don't enjoy looking at it
>>6524368>AI fags don't know anything about programming too
>>6524365Boohoo nigga. How good can you draw, by the way? Post your furry porn
>"it's over">reposts of twitter randos custom AI generations>trannyshumanist platitude>"2 more weeks">bonus: 2016 /pol/ baitI don't know about AI art but these threads are 100% made by AI.
>>6524370Textures for games is a real usecase though
>>6524366Impersonating is for faggots, got it.Now after I suck this cock, I will go off to make AI art trained on favorite artist, Sam Yang.
>>6524374>>6524306>>6524313>>6524320Samefag
>>6524364Your favorite photorealists are just pop art photocopiers that can be replaced by photoshop alone. Impressionist s can make more intricate anime than any animu artists can shade their neo-geometric pseudo-cubist trash that is just vector art in disguise.
>>6524377>complains about samefags when there's less than 30 IPs in the thread
Stop replying to these threads
>>6524369>most people don't enjoy looking at itI've met 0 people who like it irl. Normies already think Photoshop does everything, and people who like art would rather look at a sketchbook than this shit.The only market for AI are tech fags, like that YouTube faggot who says, "WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!!!"
>>6524384It's just images though, AI or not who cares
>>6524379Pretty certain less than 0.001% of /ic/ have favorite photo realists.
>>6524385img2img of a ribbon dancer?
>>6524317>>6524264meds
>>6524385Drawing pictures is literally their identity. So their resentment is understandable imo
now that AI is certified to be the future of artwork, what are some good artstyle prompts to deviate from cel-shaded or air brushed results?
>>6524398Hey wyro.
>>6524231It's over
>>6524402>Lmao
>>6524402Did you want to prove that anon right? Or are you a fucking idiot?
>>6524398NC Wyeth, Dean Cornwell and Howard Pyle
>>6524405>>6524406Anon said "what about 2-3 people posing"Posted an example of 9-10 people posing being possible using ControlNet. It's over faggots.
>>6524406>>6524405>Brushmonkeys don't understand what a proof of concept is
>>6524405>>6524406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwjJ-8cOk74how incredibly naive and in denial do you have to be to not see the writing on the wall?
>>6524390No, depth map of ballet>>6524395I guess when you put it like that I get it, still I'd like to think if I was in their shoes I wouldn't be so delusional
>>6524412What did you mean by this
I don't normally draw. But ControlNET compelled me to draw today. Pic related.
>>6524412If you pick a pencil now, you still will be able to make some money off your art in five years.
>>6524415Masterpiece anon. You are well on your way to becoming a God artist
>>6524416not even clear at all and not a good return to investement eitherwhat's the stupidest thing I've ever seen is people subscribing to AI generated fake cosplay girls on patreon, like there were close to 400 patrons and the patreon didn't even hide the fact it just spits out AI generated cosplay girls
>>6524415ywnbaa
>>6524413kind of Ayami Kojima vibe, or someone who is influenced by them.
>>6524418wtf. I could do this, then slowly transition to real art and keep the paypigs.
>>6524423Why would you want to convert to so called "real" art
>>6524418AI cosplayers are infinitely more entertaining than AI art tho, they look a lot less wrong than the drawings for some reason.Turning real anime artist pictures into cosplayers has to be the funniest shit I've done this week.
>>6524419I don't need to "be an artist", i just like the funny images xD
>>6524408Nigga you posted two images (you didn't even make) where everything is melting together.
>>6524425I enjoy making real art, infinitely more than prompting.
>>6524427> they look a lot less wrong than the drawings for some reason.The datasets are all trained on real photos of people, people and objects all look more or less the same across photos.Artists have a billion of different styles and lineart techniques, and this is what the AI is trying to merge together when making an anime girl, this is why looking at AI art is generally unpleasant and makes you feel like you are having a stroke.
It was over for AI before it even began.AI can't be copyrighted. It can't be used to develop IP.IP is what separates the big boys from the small fry.AI is useless for the heavy hitters./thread
>>6524435>Artists have a billion of different styles and lineart techniques, and this is what the AI is trying to merge together when making an anime girl, this is why looking at AI art is generally unpleasant and makes you feel like you are having a stroke.this is where you just go *YOINKS* and train a LORA on whatever artists style you want to rip off>>6524434same but I can imagine a point where this shit morphs in real time and you kind of draw on the canvas while it autocompletes stuff and is like magical playdoh and you still have the prompt field to guide it towards some coherency while doing this in real time
>>6524408He said more than "posing" faggot nice try>>6524409>sneed>>6524410Lmao still all the same problems still generic garbage
>>6524409When are these proof of concept going to become finished products?Let me guess two more weeks?
>>6524409>BrushmonkeysYour forced memes still aren't catching on, plebbitor.
>>6524443same time as you'll be an artist I'm sure
>>6524438>you kind of draw on the canvas while it autocompletes stuff and is like magical playdohWhile a neat idea, and I would certainly play with it, I don't think that would do it for me. I don't even like to use grass brushes. Drawing has a certain magic that is removed with too many tools.
>>6524435> This is why looking at AI art is generally unpleasant and makes you feel like you are having a stroke.I am not the only one then, it's like it fucks with something in the brain that gives a slight nausea sensation.
>>6524436Wait didn't Netflix just recently use AI art?
>>6524449Yeah, it went as well as you would imagine.
>>6524436It took me less than five seconds to make randomly generated SD image copyrightable by adding a single red curved line.Unless you are big name artist already it was over before it even begun, just go back to your real job, you dream got crushed under the unfeeling wheels of progress.
>>6524448> NauseaFor me it's migraine aura lmao.It's repulsive at a subconscious level.
waiting for a model that shits out artwork that doesn't tend to look like>2D anime cel-shading>airbrushed pseudo 3D>photographand instead spits out artwork where you can see the marks that made itI know the current models can do this even at this stage but it requires playing around with prompt combinations instead of it being the default
>>6524451Yeah, next time they probably just wont say it's AI but I don't see any reason they wouldn't use it.
>>6524453>make randomly generated SD image copyrightable by adding a single red curved line.That's not how copyright works. Do you understand that transformative use means it mustn't be the same type of use? so, not an image > change to an edited image. "Transformative uses are those that add something new, with a further purpose or different character, and do not substitute for the original use of the work"
>>6524459sir you splice together two AI images like photobashing and it's yours my friend
>>6524459Red curved line is a new character, he is looking judgementally at a man sucking gigantic deformed penis, because he’s a homophobe.
>>6524433Cope
>>6524194and it STILL has no soul or any input from the proompter. you will never be an artist and i will always enjoy drawing. stay mad.
>>6524441>genericSubjective assessment. Get a real job>>6524466>has no soul Subjective assesment. Get a real job
>>6524464Character meaning, characteristic, not mr squiggle.
>>6524458HAHAHA what a cope
>>6524461Transform it, which at that point you're creative/drawing, so welcome to /ic.But it is all sketchy as hell. I doubt Disney/WB will be using AI for character development unless there's some paradigm shift in copyright law.Anyway, stop being pussies and draw your ideas already. Matt Groening wasn't Rembrandt and is a fucking multi-millionaire.
>>6524467>THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED, SOUL IS NOT REA-ACKKKK!you do know you'll burn in hell right, tranny?
>>6524467>t. terminally online
>>6524470What do you mean cope, I just want more good anime to watch, cheaper to make=more manga turned into anime.
How do these threads stay up when they're literally the same spammed images and same written posts that were posted within the same day or even within the same hours? The ai shill has been spamming everything in this thread around /ic/ and on other boards all week.
ROUND HOUSE KICK A PAINTPIG INTO THE PAVEMENT
>>6524471He drew it before AI arton this scale was possible. If he was young man today, he would give up artistic aspirations and just take coding courses.
>>6524474I will gladly pay for something not made by AI instead
>>6524477I DO IT FOR WAKANDA DYING FOR ISRAEL ANY% SPEEDRUN LESGOOOOO
>>6524474https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jCPQe9g-TE>wanting quantity over quality>GOTTA CONSOOOOOOOOM
>>6524475> these electricity shills don't umderstand the SOVL of living in wilderness home heated by a wood stove.
>>6524475Jannies always take the weekend off.
>>6524478AI can't into cartoons though. like, at all. so...it can clone cartoons that already exist, but making new ones? lol
>>6524486fuck off plebbitor only true /g/entlemen may harras us(yes I reverse searched your image)
REPORT INKCELLS TO THE IRS KARATE CHOP BRUSH MONKEYS IN HALFCURBSTOMP PREGNANT PAINTPIGSJUDOTHROW INKCELLS INTO A WOOD CHIPPER
>>6524479You do you>>6524482No one said it has to be bad quality though
>>6524194I will defeat AINothing can stop my art. Even death itself trembles before the splendor and burning power of my skill.Laws of physics themselves plot against me, petrified at the thought of laying eyes on my work, and fall in a matter devouring love with it.I am the king of all worlds and the spaces between them. the shadows in my infinite consciousness dance like starving black holes on the verge of collapse.Worship me, lowly machine, and I might spare you
>>6524489>inkcels/drawcellsmeanwhile AIcucks are celibate from drawing.kek
>>6524194This cancer has been out for months and I still cannot name a single "AI artist"Really makes you think doesn't it
>>6524278friendly reminder, that if you can utilise Ai to make your work better, your art was already part of an oversaturated market, and there was nothing unique about your work in the first place.the only artists that will survive are the ones that Ai has no possible place at all within their workflow.focus on designing every part of an image with purpose, story, shape appeal, actual intention. purposeful design is the biggest thing. if you're just drawing anime bitches in various situations, you've already been dead in the water for years, and you probably only did art because you were too far gone to stop, so you followed the trends of everyone else as a render monkey in order to stand out, making image after image that says effectively nothing at all.
>>6524496I can't and I've even been paying attention! maybe a number in the name twitter account has lots of followers? but I couldn't picture a single image, just a vague... anime/rendermonkey kind of sense
>get asked to post some good OC AI stuff>meltdown ensuesShouldn't be hard to make something good considering what you guys are saying
>>6524497Very based post
>>6524487Worse of all, people can instantly tell AI art apart and ignore it.Why the fuck take the style of a living artist and make a clone of it but using AI art that looks obviously wrong after looking at it for more than a second?
>>6524475What I want to know is where all these unironic nvidia using coonsoomerism supporting fagtards are coming from, because it sure as fuck isn't 4chan
>>6524497>the only artists that will survive are the ones that Ai has no possible place at all within their workflow.Give me examples of some artists who fit that description.
>>6524475/ic/ is tsundere for AI art
>>6524478lmao, ain't no artist who'll stop drawing in his own style because some bot can churn out generic anime bitches. there's motherfuckers who still draw with dip pens in the age of photoshop.
>>6524505easy: anyone using perspective, more than 1 character in a picture or who isn't a fotm pinup faggot
>>6524499Ai art is what artstation has been for years just cranked up by 10000xa blur of very similar, technically polished and uninteresting, soul-less images, where nothing stands out. the actual good things that come out of there are still so few and far between that i don't think there's even an issue. i can't see how more data or processing is going to ever realistically fix things any further.
>>6524507/g/ is desperate for attention and knows we will give it.
>>6524507As tsundere as your mother was for the man who raped her you failed abortion.
>>6524507lollmao even
>>6524504Reddit has screencaps of unhinged inkcell threads in subreddits like /r/loveforaiart and /r/aiwars and it got people interested
>>6524216Artists will, and AI will become an artist's greatest tool.
>>6524510perspective >>6524324more than one character is still a big issue if you want them interacting. pic rel is for AGI/SGI only.
>>6524495best image in the thread, looks like it was drawn with an actual pen.
>>6524497>the only artists that will survive are the ones that Ai has no possible place at all within their workflow.based. /thread
Oh great another one of these threads
>>6524497Browse a booru for five minutes, AI art looks dead, as if you are looking at corpses.Even artists with just flats and some lineart can mog the shit out of any AI in coherence, BAD artists or amateurish artists with bad coloring technique can make pictures with more life imprinted on it, better posing, expressions and gesture.Considering the way the tech works, I feel it will never be as good as a mid tier artist.
>>6524516You meant artists will become the greatest tool for polishing AI
>>6524519It's by Moebius. From his "Ratman" Batman parody comic.
>>6524502Hey that's pretty nice
>>6524517Maybe in two hundred years AI will be able to do something like that
>>6524468Don't bother, the majority here hasn't bothered reading about what actually qualifies as fair use or transformative, even though you can find that shit on the first page of a google search.
>>6524505miyazaki? moebius? otomo? there's plenty of artists out there who focus on design and story. imagine coming up with a unique character design, and using it over any kind of longer term project that isn't just one or 2 images, and those frames (a series of images? comic?, animated maybe?) need to be designed to tell specific stories, the backgrounds shape design, composition and colour re-enforcing the story too. posing needs to be correct, you need to structure the shots together correctly with proper timing. maybe the character deforms in a specific way in oder to re-enforce a message you're communicating in the image. now add multiple unique characters in a shot. a crowd of characters all following the design philosophy you set out to achieve in the project? good luck having an Ai replacing you there. it doesn't have to be that specific kind of art, but if all you offer is a 'pretty picture' that says nothing, you were already replaceable by the many clones on art-station that existed way before Ai
another for you >>6524505
>>6524519ah, no wonder. love his inking.>>6524517 is good too. real art in an AI thread is like water in a desert.
>>6524505
>>6524497>>6524497>>6524497P-Pepe sama...
>>6524535great examples. Katsuya Terada too. Maybe his pot head girls cold be synthesized though lol, he has made more than enough material of them to train AI on.
>>6524497I hate it but it's true. I have already used AI shit for some background tests
>>6524528More like 2 minutes.
>>6524553>he added the goy-slop filterwe gonna pretend that looks good or nah?
>>6524553Nice! high five!
>>6524553This is a falseflag
>>6524553HAHA NIGGER WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS KEK
>>6524553It's over.
>>6524557>t-t-this is a false flag!1!KEEEEEEEEEK
>>6524554It looks like shit, but you can churn out variations of this (and they will look different each time) in different styles. And these will be processed with same "goyslop" filter again untill they look nice, then upscaled.
>>6524562>untill they look niceheheehehheehe
>>6524553How will I get a job drawing now?
>>6524409>streetshitter with 0 skills thinks he can insult othersNIGGERSIGGERSNEEDNEED
>>6524553BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
>>6524276How does this work? I need it, I want it
>>6524554>>6524555>>6524557>>6524558>>6524559>>6524561>>6524566>>6524568AI bros?!?!?! I thought the drawchuds were demoralized?!?!
>>6524571Nigga, grab a pencil and go draw.The lengths and effort you people are going to get drawings without drawing could be spent drawing instead.
Reminder /ic/ can barely draw an anime girl standing #1456156145649, they will crab you no matter what out of spite
>>6524576This would speed up my commissions by a lot
>>6524576Starting July last year, I've spent about 2000 hours prompting. You think I could have gotten any good at art in that time frame? didn't think so.
>>65245803D already exists, unless your clients don't care about seeing obvious AI artifacts like melting or schizzo details on their paid for work.I know mine would bitch like hell.Stay away from putting AI outputs on your canvas unless you are 100% sure you can overpaint it.
>>6524586No way you need to paint over it, if it weren't for you I would never thought of that
>>6524580its gonna dry up you're commissions.
>>6524584well you need to post your best prompt to show if it was worth it or not.
>>6524596Thats the artists secret sauce, don't try to social engineer their genius, you baka
>>6524594You wish
>>6524580If found out, you will get exposed and get refunded https://twitter.com/kamaniki/status/1626292751540326401?s=46&t=HTe1_6l3v_ArHMZq4lrgUQ no one wants to get cheated, retard
>>6524604I trained a model on my own style so good luck with that, I'll take working a third of my usual time using AI over doing everything from scratch
>>6524522>Even artists with just flats and some lineart can mog the shit out of any AI in coherenceflats with lineart can look damn good. I'd take pic over some rendermonkey shit, AI or not.>AI art looks dead, as if you are looking at corpses.It literally is, no life behind it, proving "soul" is not just a meme.
>>6524553holy kek
>>6524594My advice is only use AI if you can match the rendering on it with your skills.Trace it with a thin sketch layer, do the lineart correcting the anatomical mistakes, then put it on the side of your canvas and for fucks sake redraw it from scratch, you can even sample the colors.> why do that? AI has obvious output artifacts on it that can be seen from a glance, that alone can ruin your base if you get accused of using it because no sane commissionerpays money for someone using AI, only a complete idiot would take the output of AI and paste it on their canvas claiming it's their own art, if you are able to use it as reference, redaw what you see with your own skillset.
My advice is to use AI if you want to stop having fun and have an insatiable craving for stagnation and mediocrity
>>6524238pure copium
>>6524596((masterpiece,best quality)),1girl, solo, animal ears, rabbit, barefoot, knees up, dress, sitting, rabbit ears, short sleeves, looking at viewer, grass, short hair, smile, white hair, puffy sleeves, outdoors, puffy short sleeves, bangs, on ground, full body, animal, white dress, sunlight, brown eyes, dappled sunlight, day, depth of field
>>6524613Its absolutely soul draining.I spent 8 hours redrawing AI to use it as a background, it's a good background, I did all the brush strokes by myself just sampling the colors from the AI but fuck me, it's not FUN.
>>6524194Based. Can't wait to install this and add it into my workflow.
>>6524602nigga it's the only logical result of ai art, once it gets to the point that anyone can use it which is their end goal then when why would anyone commission you you retard.
>>6524194Based. Can't wait to install this and add it into my workflow. >>6524238Speak for yourself. I'm already technically experienced enough to run all of this shit locally. I'll install controlnet and I've already got blender. Simple as
>>6524629Browse a booru. Theres are millions of things AInart is incapable of doing tyat even mid tier artistsbare able to.
>>6524622Yeah? I took 5 minutes fixing an AI background, saved me hours of my life.
>>6524633Good, do you have the layers and a timelapse?Because I do.
>>6524611nobody tell this dude about photobashing
>>6524522>AI art looks dead, as if you are looking at corpses.>Even artists with just flats and some lineart can mog the shit out of any AI in coherence, BAD artists or amateurish artists with bad coloring technique can make pictures with more life imprinted on it, better posing, expressions and gesture.Bullshit. Why do people lie to themselves like this? What's wrong with you? Can't cope with change and reality?
>>6524636You post first and self report your account
>>6524325>Tech that has been out for 6 months isn't perfect>It'll never be good enoughK. See you in 2 months when they get consistency perfectly.
>>6524636Why would I create a timelapse of fixing an AI background that took me 5 minutes? But please post your timelapse, let me see why you needed to take 8 hours to fix a background that was probably already basically done.
>>6524641Never too late to grab a pencil.
>>6524641Nice self awareness lmao
>>6524647It took almost 3 decades for photoshop to have stabilizers and even then its through a third party software, baby steps
/a/ always have the most based take.
>>6524656I can see their legs shaking a mile away
>>6524656>AI is bad because colonian historyNice babble
>>6524656Get over it already, just ignore AI if you're not worried
>>6524658>>6524661>>6524664>instant butthurtSorry for talking bad about your toy
>>6524664>>6524661>>6524658AHAHAHAHAHAHA> n-nobody likes my mass made slop Grab a pencil faggot lmao.
>>6524668I have, AI is just faster for commissions
>>6524666>>6524668Rent free
Soon AI art will be like taking photos. Nobody cares about your photo. But draw a photo in pencil? >Holy shit anon that looks just like a photo! you are so talented!>Holy shit anon that looks just like AI art right out of the latent space! you are so talented!I hate this, but it's something I guess.
>>6524671Nigga, you've been shit posting the board for 7 months now, all day-nonstop, I wouldn't say exactly rent free.
>>6524664AI should ignore all the artwork and photos if it's so good.
>>6524604Holy shit that's a long ass seethe post, or rather a meltdown
>AI is able to go through billions of images and exctract knowledge, which no human is able to do in ten lifetimes.The only thing it needs to do is develop some taste and human made art will look like garbage in comparison.
Hustlers gonna hustle, if you don't like it just don't join us
>>6524676Ouroboros-type models are trained on AI art exclusively.Example: https://huggingface.co/Eppinette/Ouroboros
>>6524656Animesisters, please remember that you are valid and that trans rights are human rights!
>>6524633saving time by not creatingstop pretending to be an artist.
>>6524673Its almost as if the skill of the person is what is being appreciated.AI fags want their pictures to be appreciated on the bases of rendering skill, fidelity to anime style and stylization as if they had any sort of merit in doing it besides telling a computer to copy pictures that already exist by professional artists.Newsflash fuckers, only real artists get appreciated on their rendering and stylization skills, nobody gives a shit you took a photo of a horse, nobody cares if you can prompt one, now if you build me a fucking miniature horse using nothing but matchsticks, then I will appreciate your skill.
>>6524652why bother? you're never going to be able to draw as good as the images AI creates anyway. Keep deluding yourself.
>thread made 6 hours ago>40 posts to the bump limitHow many AI threads do /ic/ need to understand that every single one of these threads are just a troll bait?We've seen...OP blatantly shilling AI bullshit and call you idiot in your face.OP larping as an obvlivious idiot who doesnt know about AI art and asks even though this is the wrong board to do so.OP larping as a doomer artist who is giving up because something something AI.OP larping as a raging artist who yells at something because of AI.OP larping as a smug artist trying to push a counterargument or solution nobody gives a shit about.OP larping as a smart artist trying to point out the benefits of AI shit in your workflow.And the list goes on and on, but the result is always the same, AI shit gets blatantly pushed, anons start going apeshit at each other and the trolls keep gettin fed and amused the expenses of your anger.This is the oldest trick in the book and somehow nobody sees through it. Am I really the only retard in this god forsaken board that is reporting every thread on the spot? Stop falling for it, stop feeding the trolls, stop being a bunch of retards.
>>6524632because the easy of use hasn't gotten to the point even normies can use it only people desperate to call themselves an artist are using it atm.>>6524620 no bad but the hands are blatantly hidden and the bunny is off. the more you look at it the more off it looks. >>6524641>Bullshit. Why do people lie to themselves like this? What's wrong with you? Can't cope with change and reality?you either get it or you don't. why do think all those ai account that have over 50K struggle to get 1k-5k likes on a post.
>>6524691newsflash, 99.99% of wage earning artists are cogs in the machine and will be replaced by thisretards pretend that everyone is some kim jung gi and should stop whiningthe real reason you should stop whining is because you will lose
>>6524694The mods are faggots and do nothing, but if you post the braaaap shitpost you get warned immediately.
>>6524689I guess all those mangaka that had assistants aren't artists either by your logic, kek.
>>6524694why do some of you try to actively burry this topic? it's the biggest thing happening to art since digital painting or photography
>>6524694>people that say things I don't like are trolling.
>>6524696This is exactly why I'm rushing to make as much as I can before I can't make any more money, I took the AI pill the moment I realized being an artist won't last for long if you're a third world nobody. I plan on retiring this year if all goes well and the dollar is kept high
>>6524702Trans rights are vaild
>>6524694It's funny to see AIfags embarrass themselves and even if we don't reply they would bump themselves to death anyways
>>6524691nobody gives a shit about 99.9% of artists work anyway. including yours. once AI art is perfected absolutely nobody will give a shit about human artists. The entire definition is going to change, it will be more about selling your personality and being a weirdo than creating art. You think young people will waste their time drawing when they can just hit a button and get art they want?
>>6524696As an artist, there are thousands of artists I would comission that will never see my money if they used AI, I am sure there are thousands more like me.Some art people will pirate because it has no value, some art people will pay for because they will want to keep it going, guess in what category AI art is?
>>6524695That was without ControlNet. I haven't tried that yet.
>>6524709okay and suddenly AI automation means there's a fraction of the demand for human made art yet the same supply, crashing the value
>>6524707it's never going to go away, so deal with it. 10 years from now this board (if it still exists) will only comprise of AI art. I hope you stick around to see it happen.
>>6524700Actually, what do mangaka assistants do even? Do they just replicate style of the mangaka and draw like backgrounds or something?
>>6524709we'll see about that. ultimately people pay artists because they want art they like. If someone can get that for free I'd say 90% of them will. There will not be enough people like you willing to pay to support a "manual" artist.
>>6524714Ink, background and screentones usually.
>>6524685It's very funny seeing you retard polsimians treat AIs like a win against the left, when you spend all day ranting about globohomo, zepods, return to tradition and main stream media being controlled by "them", when AI in general is the epitome of thought control and homogenization.
>>6524714mostly they draw backgrounds and used to fill in blacks.
>>6524694The faster it reaches post limit, the faster it gets pruned
I wonder what the vibe in japan is with their huge aimation and manga industry that's already underpayed
>>6524709>there are thousands of artists I would commissionWould is the same as never as long as you never act on it, time to start dropping $100s on those thousand of artists
>>6524695>why do think all those ai account that have over 50K struggle to get 1k-5k likes on a post.because AI art now exists. If you took one of these people 10 years into the past when nobody knew about AI art and only he could generate it, then that artist would be popular as well. But since everyone can make incredible art now why should you need to follow anyone? What you should be on the lookout for now is a decrease in new artists gaining a following on the whole, that's AI artists and "manual" ones.
>>6524712Exactly. I mean, Photoshop has been around since 1987 and we've had decades of advancement in computer graphics, 3D modeling, etc., and that's why nobody today makes drawings using pencils, pens, brushes and inks.
>>6524721Japanese will embrace AI, already are, they're not idiots. They embrace technology.
>>6524715I supported many artists with a lower skillset than mine, and got commissioned by better artists with a bigger base several times.The art enthusiast market and craft will go nowhere, but I would be lying if I won't dread if the commercial, industrial art world doesn't becomes all full of AI generated crap, for a while art directors are gatekeeping the retards out, but in 15, 30 years?I would never pay for something visual done without care and without the skills of an artist behind it, but I can't say thr same for the goyslop esting normies that dictate the entertainment industry projects.
>>6524728they like to pay stuff in hard cash
>>6524730Except bus
>>6524728They still use fax
I predict that soon you'll have to switch back to drawing by hand on paper because digital art can be faked to the point it's impossible to tell who made itthis is when human art will fall from grace and become a some hippie activitiy
>>6524733Because of the senior population being bosses not moving on, younger generation hate this shit
>310/54/59/absolutely ebin
>>6524729The main reason AI art will proliferate is because it's simply cheaper and more efficient. Companies with investors that want to increase profits will 100% lay off art staff once this stuff is perfected.
>>6524739200 of those are mine
>>6524733only until the boomers die.
>>6524740They will never fire their art directors. This is why I'm working on becoming one ASAP
>>6524740the whole economy will collapse if the great reset doesn't happen because shit like chatGPT is reducing the requirements in other fields tooI guess this it's good in the sense that we can focus on taking care of the elderly with demographics collapse going on around the world
>>6524724>But since everyone can make incredible art now why should you need to follow anyone?i not talking about followers i'm talking about likes. there are a bunch of ai art accounts with a loads of followers but the number of likes they get don't match the number of followers they. i noticed this with regular artist that don't have quality art to back up their follow count but they do a ton of networking aka ass kissing of better artist to get followers.
>>6524735yeah, for right now they verify with layered files and a timelapse, but soon even that won't be enough lol. It's funny to see how disruptive this is and watch people cope.
>>6524741How many tulpas you host?
>>6524728>They embrace technology.they one of the main probablems of japan, they are old fashioned and respect tradition to much sometimes.
>>6524743Yeah, the title will probably just change to "AI Art Director" and maybe a few assistants. Just generating art and using their personal tastes, true direction, while the assistants touch stuff up. But long term even that will be replaced by AI, AI that thinks and can make stylistic choices based on art theory.
>>6524740But is it? Will people pay to see entertainment done without artists? Actors? Composers? If in 10 years technology advances so you can prompt any video to reality, but also compression algorithms become so efficient you can compress and download an entire studio catalog inside of less than 10 GBs, why would anyone buy this entertainment instead of pirating it or generating it themselves?Would you pay for AAA games if you could instantly download every game by a publisher in a single second? Would you be more likely or less likely to pay for it if it featured artists and composers you like?
he unironically knew or had a play in this
>>6524748My system is a family of 30 famous animated bears. Paddington is hosting right now, Hello!
>>6524739If a bait thread doesn't get removed by the jannies you spam it until it dies.Is it your first day on 4chan?
>>6524751I'm gambling on this type of AI not being a thing until around 10 years from now, by then society should have figured what to do with all the unemployment
>>6524742Have you seen Japan's population? They will never be non-majority boomers
>>6524745Yeah, society on the whole is going to have to change drastically over the rest of this decade. ChatGPT is and incredible tool. I was writing a story and got stuck, just fed ChatGPT what I had and it wrote like 5 different scenarios I could choose from to carry the story forward. With all the characters doing things they should do according to their personality. A little tweaking and boom you're done. It's truly over.
>>6524758>If a bait thread doesn't get removed by the jannies you spam it until it dies.Found the whine to the jannies loser.
>>6524763>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPAM THE SAME THREAD ALL DAY EVERYDAY
>>6524760In two decades most of them will be near 100yo, assuming that in 3 decades most of them will be dead we can conclude the word never means 3 decades and dictionaries are all wrong
>>6524754It will only last a short time, eventually the AI will just be able to make any game you want from a description. Movies/TV shows too. I don't know how who is going to make money from this, everything is going to have to change.
>>6524754I think in that case people will just completely lose interest in intellectual pursuits of any kind and everybody will start expressing themselves with sports and bodybuilding.
>>6524767"you will own nothing and you will be happy" service providers
>>6524755Anon you're so wrong, AIs will help us break free of big tech and globohomo, you'll see when we'll be all stay at home with UBI and a constant stream of media tailored to our monitored "tastes".
>>6524755https://www.weforum.org/topics/artificial-intelligence-and-robotics
>>6524767>companies market a text predictor as AI>It's so stupid it needs to be lobotomized to not spout bullshit 24/7 and break the illusion of it being smart>retards nonetheless fall for it and start saying retarded shit
>>6524765>NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DISCUSS THINGS THAT WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING ABOUT THE TOPIC THIS BOARD IS BASED ON!
>>6524754This mentality of "just take what you want from everyone and feed it to AI to give it back for free" will take over everything. Imagine in the future, you download a simple "Rockstar Model" and every GTA and RDR game is compressed on a 2GB file being interpreted by neural networks on GPUs 100 times more powerful than a RTX 3090.Why the fuck would I buy any digital entertainment if the models can compress anything in a tiny filesize to give it to me for free?Image a "Marvel Movie Model?" Everything in tiny GBs.
>>6524772ChatGPT is definitely not stupid. Maybe you are. It's incredibly useful and you're probably consuming its generated content daily in things you read now and you don't even know it.
>>6524735>this is when human art will fall from grace and become a some hippie activitiylmao, why the fuck is drawing on paper a "hippie activity"? it's the way artists have created art for centuries and takes a great amount of discipline.I'm not even 100% trad, but if there is a movement back to traditional media then it would be a renaissance.
>>6524767I think at first, people will watch some for the novelty(like AI vtubers). but once they are at a saturation point society will reject AI shit completely. It will be like porn, nobody prefers it over the real thing. oh, but porn is gonna get really wild huh... so my analogy is bad.
>>6524778hippie like how making clay pottery is a hippie activity
>>6524779>AI vtubersKids watch these only to try to make them say nigger
>>6524779>nobody prefers it over the real thingspeak for yourself
>>6524778people are consuming most of their information digitally and that is only going to increase from here on out desu
>>6524641>it's another anime waifu pin-upi'm shivering in me timbers anon
>>6524785You should you're are on /ic/
>>6524785doesn't have to be an anime waifu pin-up. can be basically anything you train it on so yeah you should be shivering.
>>6524777>ChatGPT is definitely not stupid.But it's wrong too often. When it can cite its sources, then it will be useful. You have to fact check everything it says for now.
>>6524767Coomsumers need to die honestly, they're the modern scourge on humanity. I would gladly give away my job and do art for free if it meant people actually consumed art like art instead of demanding more meaningless time fillers.
>>6524789Bing's chatgpt can cite the sources since it has access to the internet
>>6524780so any activity involving material objects is a "hippie activity"? is this zoomer brain?>>6524784there's this thing called a scanner, anon.
>>6524778>takes a great amount of disciplineOr natural talent.
>>6524793>so any activity involving material objects is a "hippie activity"? is this zoomer brain?I think it's a good description for some return to monkey shit
>>6524775>>6524779Exactly, people ramble around about automation, AI art is NOT automation, its a much bigger thing people are not noticing.Its encoding and decoding data in a way that is hyper extremelly efficient, its compression, in a scale never possible before, it's just a few years before ALL digital data can be compressed this way.A 4k movie? You download a movie model of a couple of GBs and you can have from the seed any 4K movie released in just a few KBs.Our internet speeds will be massively overkill compared to the storage needed to run these models, everything will be "generated" (or rather decompressed) on neural networks in gpus.When all entertainment is easily pirateable, how will the industry make any money out of this?
>>6524786develop your brain more, you just typed nothing of meaning
>>6524797>When all entertainment is easily pirateableRight now entertainment is impossible to pirate, no one ever pirate anything.Right.
>>6524788here you go anon >>6524497stop being a shill for literal street shitters
>>6524798Just like your art
>>6524797>it's just a few years before ALL digital data can be compressed this way.Wrong. Real data processing requires LOSELESS compression.
in the future you rent your computer time from the cloud and there's heavy restrictions on how you consume media
>>6524799i pirated puss in boots 2 just fine.
>>6524797sounds great desu.
>>6524796it's actually the return to grace. the monkey shit is online.
>>6524805was it good?
>>6524800>>6524497yeah sorry but that's cope and bullshit since actual professionals are already putting AI art to use in their works as seen with the Netflix anime production.
>>6524810oh no, one project that wants to look like everything else. what will i do with my life?? you clearly didn't read the post, nigger
>>6524807young people and future generations are not going to return to monke. Any kind of traditional movement will be filled with older people and die with them.
>>6524810We all seen the shitshow and how they had to redraw everything the AI spat out because it was completely off compared to the storyboard.I love how you retard need to be extremely vague about your claims to not get BTFO every single time.
>>6524813hey now no need to be racist
>>6524620N-nice
>>6524815Tabletop RPG, tabletop games, Vynil music have all become gigantic lately.
>>6524813keep coping faggot, some of those "artists" you're worshipping may already be sneaking some ai art into their own workflow while you suck on their balls and don't even know it.
>>6524818Please don't steal my artwork to make your own, it makes me uncomfortable.
>>6524820seasonal fads
>>6524810that was a clusterfuck. anyway, 'pros' do a lot of stupid shit (see Velma). artists aspire to something creative, AI just regurgitates shit.
>>6524816they didn't "redraw" everything. They used the AI art as a base pretty much, and will continue to use it. you think animation studios that operate the equivalent of sweat shops won't use AI? funny.
>>6524809yes dream works is definitely better than disney atm.
>>6524826Fuck off, unlike you I can post proof.
>>6524822
>>6524829what do you think this proves exactly? like I said they took the AI artwork as a base retard. "revised by hand" wasn't drawn from scratch.
>>6524826>>6524829FUCKING DESTROYEDleave, bitches!
>>65248291 >>>> 3 >>>>>> 2 = 4
Will I be able to do Stable Diffusion in a single page web app when webgpu comes out?
>>6524815good, I'll join the last great generation then. the last 20 years of culture has been shit anyway, gen x was the last to have anything decent.
>>6524831the third image is mislabeled. it's a paint over.
>>6524832>>6524829>>6524822>>6524810>>6524801prove you're not a samefag and show us your (you)'s
>>6524833Yeah, the handdrawn is better, but if there's a consistent motif to maintain, then it's a win.
>>6524836Wouldn't you get 3 by simply sampling the colors off the AI and painting over the hand drawn sketch?I don't get the utility of this AT ALL, the AI was just for color thumbnailing then?
>>6524837
>>6524840>I don't get the utility of this AT ALLWhat utility they only wanted to create a clickbait title.The thing is complete garbage on every level 3DCG, shitty designs, garbage story, blurry backgrounds.
>>6524841fake
Meanwhile, SD pumped out 27 million images in the time it took to argue this thread. 1% of them are good, which makes it a million times more productive than hand drawing.
>>6524844I'm a fag but not the same!
>>6524849>get BTFO>changes the argumentAs usual
>>6524823Prompts are not copyrightable, you posted so it became public domain
Trans rights are artist rights.
>>65248491%? and how many were of generic pinups facing the camera?(hint: all of them)
>>6524855It's my poetry, my lyrics. That's totes copyright boyo!
>>6524857Anon the "woman" that it's fighting for the AI comic copyright as a trans flag in "her" profile bio.You /pol/tards are on the side of the trannies and the globohomo right now.
>>6524823
>>6524861fuck. Ok, I am changing sides lol. Human made art is timeless!
>>6524849> Do you want to see this image I didn't make?No.If YOU didn't care about your art to make it yourself, then why the hell should anyone?
>>6524863Can you not post SOULFUL Dungeon Meshi art in an AI shitposting thread, please?
>>6524864STOP!
>>6524818void demon is peaking in the back
>>6524876I caught it!
>>6524871I was just playing around with AI to see if it can color it automatically, answer is no at the moment but the way things are going we should be able to auto color manga in the not too distand future.
>>6524863Do you have it without the color filter?
>>6524880yeah
>>6524402>moeshit animeThankfully it still hasn't come close to developing taste.
>>6524879yep that's why I stopped doing color artwork completely, will just run my pencils through the AI in the future, kek.
>>6524332>AIfags don't hate artistsBlatantly untrue.
>>6524886The only artists I hate are the ones reading this message right now. sup dickmashers?
>>6524884You should stop breathing too it ruins your lungs
>>6524694Evil should be contested lest it be normalized, for one. Especially since tranny mods won't ban these threads.
>>6524897you basically want to put fingers in your ears and yell lalalalalallaladumbass this shit should be talked about
>>6524897Do it. Whine to the jannies!
>>6524882> it will take AGI and several RTX combined, a copious ammount of energy, to do in 2035 what a man could do with a pencil 200 years agoTrully technology is going foward.
>>6524891nah I like breathing, I don't like doing color stuff anyway. Cope and seethe.
>>6524267They are learning ControlNET and prompts are adapting to ControlNET: the 77 token limit can now be used for more details instead of guidelines and adjectives, i.e. there is more space for actual prompt-engineering instead of forcing SD to conform to specific prompt content. ControlNET frees lots of these mandatory quality tokens in favor of style and descriptions.
>>6524897yeah keep fighting the good fight retard.>>6524909>it will take AGI and several RTX combined, a copious ammount of energy, to do in 2035 what a man could do with a pencil 200 years agoA man with a pencil 200 years ago could create 100 masterpieces in less than a fraction of a second? interesting.
>>6524913AI never made a single masterpiece, let alone 100, only slop from distorting it's training data.It will take a few decades until it does more than that.If a man made one masterpiece, it's already more than any AI will ever do.
>>6524620Shit I gotta update my SD lmao
>>6524916so I post a piece of AI art then you can find the original image it's based on? Should show up in a google search right? since it's not original and everything.
>>6524916>NOOOOO you can't learn from the work of others you should just know how to do it!
>>6524918Go train some Loras before, gotta make sure there artists are really replaceable by... using their art I guess.
>>6524888wow, AI art is amazing. I will never be this good.
>>6524921when did I say anything about replacing anyone?
>>6524916The word "masterpiece" is a subjective aesthetic descriptor that relies on some common skill to judge art quality that doesn't exist.That means AI can subjectively generate a masterpiece and you cannot prevent the user aesthetic judgement from labeling it as such, as your ideas are not some objective metaphysical truth but only a temporary opinion limited by personal worldviews and feelings at the time.
>>6524921If I could draw/create art as good as my favorite artists, but it looks just like their work, you think I care? Most of the art posted online looks the same anyway, that same anyway since they're all copying anime or artists like Artgerm. Not many have truly distinct styles.
>>6524909I'm sure it could figure it out with a couple of tries
>>6524928
>>6524928>I'm sure it could figure it out with a couple of triesFUCK YOU FUCK YOU you won't do it, so don't say shit like that faggot.
>>6524927A copycat can get noticed eventually.Using AI will only get you laughted at.
>>6524607>adds pantsu_ripper to the prompt once
>>6524928>I'm sure it could figure it out with a couple of tries>2 more weeksit's always like this with these niggers
>>6524607Actually pantsu works really fucking well with this model tf
>>6524925I doubt many of the prompts used used causually really do anything that a string of random gibberish wouldn’t do. I doubt there were many examples of "bad hands" or "bad anatomy" (or "masterpiece" for that matter) in the training dataset.
>>6524949huh. can it do...?pantsu_ripper ((masterpiece,best quality)),1girl, solo, animal ears, rabbit, barefoot, knees up, dress, sitting, rabbit ears, short sleeves, looking at viewer, grass, short hair, smile, white hair, puffy sleeves, outdoors, puffy short sleeves, bangs, on ground, full body, animal, white dress, sunlight, brown eyes, dappled sunlight, day, depth of field
>the AI can only draw women/cbsg/ sisters we cant stop winning
>>6524946
>>6524935it's amazing how much this stuff has improved in recognizing forms, truly it's over. Or actually just beginning.
>>6524946please dedicate your entire life and being from this moment on to drawing art. And when you rope by the end of the decade because AI art has completely taken over, remember my post.
>>6524964>AI artNo such thing, sweaty. You'll always be worthless.
>>6524965that's the spirit, spend hours of your life drawing, make it your career too. I'm sure you'll be fine.
>>6524968Okay?
>>6524970>retard doesn't get it's overyou'll understand later. when you're starving and ready to swing from the ceiling.
>>6524972You seem really desperate to make people believe "it's over". What's over, exactly?
>>6524972Okay?
>>6524974with the invention of industrial machinery, the textile industry will never be the same
>>6524964hahaha couldn't do it huh? you tried though right? AI will be doing literally everything a human can do. Nothing is out of reach at all. I would still draw if gods arrived from the sky who could draw things to life. I'd draw it it was made illegal. The act of drawing is fucking fulfilling man, doesn't matter if someone or something can do it better.
>>6524978You didn't answer the question, imbecile. Let's try with a different one: how much money are you making monthly out of your streetshitting masterpieces?
>>6524978My best friend is a tailor and she earns more than I do and I'm a programmer.I don't understand what you mean anon?
>>6524965All art will be seen as worthless regardless of how it was made you dumb nigger. Same with literature, poetry, music, comics, movies, games, possibly even hard sciences and coding. Only form of self extression left will be theatre, sport and bodybuilding and theatre will be considered suspicious. Intellectual pursuits will be irrelevant and human body will be the king.
>>6524984fag
>>6524974Cars are over, they'll never replace horses.
>>6524985>human body will be the king.Oh shit nice body, you natty?>nano machines son
>>6524974Imaging a magic appliance that allowed every burger flipper to instantly create culinary masterpieces. This is ControlNET. The skill requirements are now the skills of operating this appliance with some tools that evolve each weak, so even the worst skilled burger flipper is getting better food next week..
>>6524974Steaming movies and tv shows is over, I'm gonna open a blockbuster renting vhs tapes. Surely my future is secure. surely.
>>6524978But anon is that why most people are trying to replicate past works because most new ones are unappealing and some say where in the area of perpetual nostalgia
>>6524979Not only that, sharing your shitty drawings with your friends, giving tips, getting on drawpiles or streams, getting a gift art or a trade from a famous as fuck artist, opening commissions and having all slots filled in a day, having one of your idols participate in your stream, making art that has literal value and selling prints in a shitty etsy store to suddenly make 1000$ out of nowhere.I get why AI fags are jealous, if only they picked up a pencil....
>>6524979nothing wrong with drawing as a hobby, once you understand you won't be able to dedicate your life to that and eat.
>>6524987>>6524990>>6524991Note that none of you actually answered the question.
>>6524997take the hint man
>>6524994No job is safe from AI. Why are you insisting on being retarded? really? what is your motivation here? If AI lives up to the promises, money wont matter in the slightest.
>>6525002You should have made that with AI prove your point
>>6525004He can't, The car would have hooves and the horse eight fingers
>>6524997ControlNet removes skill requirements so artists skill is depending on how slow ControlNet reaches the masses: once its industry standard, artists will just replaced by minimum wage burger flippers who rate prompts(and they will in turn will be eventually replaced by AI that has aesthetic analysis).This is the "Second Generation AI art" that is becoming controllable with 3D/scribble/etc to mass produce quality art that competes with real artists..
>>6525007New month. New buzzword.I wonder what you will be shilling next month.
>>6525008Look at this image, how many people could draw the left side and how many could draw the right side?>>6524935
>>6525012You know the answer. But why bother? just grab a porn and img2img it, get better results too.
>>6525007>ControlNet removes skill requirementsYou don't know anything about art.
>>6525008> 3D> crypto> NFT> AII guess I will just skip the AI shit and go straight to the next fad> ITS OVER, NEURAL IMPLANTS MAKES DRAWINGS IRRELEVANT, NOW YOUN CAN SEE YOUR IMAGE IN YOUR MIND > ITS OVER, TACTILE VR WILL MAKE DRAWING IRRELEVANT, NOW YOU CAN FUCK YOUR IMAGES> ITS OVER, FLATTENING WILL MAKE DRAWING IRRELEVANT, NOW YOU ARE COMPLETELY 2Dwake me up later for the next fad
>>6524823Shes too kawaii
>>6525016>> ITS OVER, FLATTENING WILL MAKE DRAWING IRRELEVANT, NOW YOU ARE COMPLETELY 2DNow I can marry my 2d waifu. My life is complete.
>>6524883>tasteRetard, there's no one single unifying AI model. There are models for all possible art styles.
>>6525012I don't think a human could draw the melting lines like an AI can anon.
I don't care even if AI can take an image from your head and render it even better then you could imagine it. The AI art in any shape or form is unethical and it's unethical side will lead it to demise eventually. Instead of making AI and machines take hard repetitive dehumanizing jobs from people it robs them of creative fields and leaves them without joy in existing. Dystopia of low-class jobs and oversaturated market with average person consuming AI-generated entertainment without any hope of breaking the cycle will only lead to revolution and banning of technologies. And people who say that "you can't take progress back" are delusional. We can take it back to stick and stones pretty easily.
>>6525013img2img is 64x64 latent space, ControlNET modifies the network itself at output resolution, it also can preserve depth with depth/normal maps,etc.Go to reddit /r/stablediffusion for a sneak peek of what its capable now(keep it mind its been just a few days since its release, so its just the start)
>>6525022Looks the exact same as it did before.I guess you just get there slightly faster because you can steal poses with more ease.
>>6525024NO. just read the github page, its really a new generation of AI art.https://github.com/lllyasviel/ControlNet
>>6525028Nigga I know what you're talking about.The end result still looks the fucking same.
>>6525028> AI artImage generation is not drawing, zero shits given.
>>6525031Not that anon, but you have full control over pose, background, composition, etc, with the various ControlNet models released.
>>65250333D rendering is what then?
>>6525022I went to reddit and nobody had made anything good with it yet. All the images just looked like they always did. Maybe the prompter is in control now, but what they choose to do is the same thing as they showed before, but less cherry picking your results? Not running 50 gens and sharing the best?
>>6525034And the end result still looks the same.
>>65250353D rendering is 3D renderingsculpting a 3D model is sculpting
>>65250382d rendering is 2d renderingSculpting a 2d rendering is engraving or relief work
>>6525037Cope. Go and use the tool and see for yourself faggot before you make assumptions on 3 in-thread pics.
The end result is AI art which the world at large already left behind except for the idiots desperately trying to shove it on everyones faces.We seen DungeonAI played it, got bored, moved on.We seen NovelAI text and image, we seen MidJourney played it, got bored, it all looks the same, moved on.Unless your image generation can make videos or suck dicks, its neither new or interesting.
>>6525045Or you could just post proof and BTFO everyone in the thread.We both fucking know it won't happen.
>>65250433d modeling is literally just digital sculpting like drawing on paper vs drawing on tabled. wtf is 2d rendering?
>>6525045Nice reddit, nice. hahahhaha. look if you want to impress us fucking do it already.
>>6525052>>6525043 (You) #2d rendering is literally just digital painting like drawing on paper vs drawing on tablet. wtf is 1d rendering?
>>6525058>could I post some of my supposedly perfect and amazing AI images to prove my argument?>No wait I know, I'll act like a retard that will prove my point
>>6524710cute
>>6525049Yeah. Like midjourney was super impressive for a moment, chrome lord's and all, and now is all the same. Humans don't give a fuck once new tech is a few months old. We fly in the sky, and even shit and piss in the sky and we complain about the food they serve! Or that our wifi is spotty!
>>6525049> Got bored, it all looks the same, moved on.AI can have infinite styles and companies are already starting to use it, so much for "moved on".
>>6525060https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/search/?q=ControlNet&include_over_18=on&restrict_sr=on&sort=top
The AI bros are not tryint to attack you they are trying to save you. Get a new competences ASAP because it is over.
>>6525060I was just pretending. Here is the amazing art using control net. I hope you like it.
>>6525067My nigga, I can tell a landscape or a portrait made with MidJourney from a mileI can tell a shitty anime drawing made with NovelAI models from a mile, I am even beguinning to tell the models of OrangeMix apart from the fucking thumbnail.People don't think "Oooh big titty anime girl, better than artists" they think "Oh great, another NovelAI generation, can you please stop spamming that?"It gets fucking boring VERY FAST.
>>6525043>engraving or relief workhas literally no connections. drawing on tablet is direct translation of traditional paper drawing, you just use plastic "paper" and plastic "pen". 3D modeling is a little bit more abstract in that sense but still it just places the artist inside the 3D simulation so he can perform the same techniques and action he would do with the real sculpture. how do you translate dragging dummies hands to anything? it's digital puppeteering then. oh no wait, it still requires more skill and dedication
>>6525067Infinite styles yet we see the same 5 styles over and over. Anime Anime if realRealTrending on Art stationAnime if impressionistDid I miss any?
>>6525069>old.reddit
>>6525071Answer me. What compenences? What is safe from AI? Answer genuinely, you cared to comment so you must have something to back that comment up right?
>>6525079These are essentially variations of single "magical photorealism" style where millions of photo weights dictate shapes and colors(and secretly make anime look better, because normal animu is low quality simplified vectors with 6-10 features)
>>6525069He posts nothing...I looked and only saw the same old pinups. Yeah he drew a pose and it matched it... But the pose is just the same old shit, he didn't need to draw that, and probably used ref lol, so why bother drawing it? Just use the stick figure thing.
>>6525083Something that involves a lot of non repetetive meatspace tasks. For example R&D bacteriologist (something I did a while ago). If you look for something more accessible, then get a job in transport, cooking or cleaning. Also worth noting is that factories are automated to ridiculous degree already so a factory job is likely safe because further automation will be more constly not to mention failure prone than keeping some grunts around.
>>6525086Yeah, makes sense. All the shadowing on the realistic ai anime looks like generic snaps, nothing designed. The overwhelming amount of photos in the dataset just poison it all.
>>6525083mcdonalds, cleaning services, assembling line, amazon. the you know who is robbing humanity out of art so we can be fulltime slaves to the wage. soon the only existing jobs will be plumber or amazon chineese mega-factory slave-worker. there's no career to pursue anymore. you will rent your 1 bedroom apartment in the local anthill till you die. you whole salary will be spend on rent, subscriptions and taxes every month exactly to the last $ with no space for savings. you gonna rent your car as well btw. you will own nothing. your life will be a cage of already made decisions for you. human art will be obsolete, all your entertainment will be AI generated. this is a perfect utopia techbros are craving of
>>6525091Its not limited to stick figures.https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/113p99k/using_daz3d_as_pose_generator_for_controlnet/
>>6524620that looks very nice anon kun! we need a few more poses, different locations and some icons based on this character designwhat do you mean you cant draw the same character again? why did her clothes change? why did you draw the rabbit with 5 feet and no tail?
>>6525076In the end, it's people who don't know shit about art, trying to dictate how art will be made in the future.Oh yeah can't wait for all my entertainment to be made by fucking midjourney and stable diffusion.And all my anime by westerners using NovelAI and orangemix. Surely this will become a new renaissance for arts, where everything looks THE FUCKING SAME.
>>6524829Why does it keep getting worse on each step?
>>6525079>Did I miss any?Same crap /ic likes and poorly trys to emulate?
>>6525095>transport, cooking or cleaning.Hahahah ai does all of this right now, in limited scope sure, but the tech is here. Just a matter of time. 10 years ago artist being replaced was unthinkable, so the unthinkable right now is somehow safe? Nah bro.
>>6525100That is the point of ControlNet - making variations from one template, one 3D model of posable humanoid+controlNet.
>>6525097There’s worker drought everywhere in the devdeloped world. Killing off the prestigious (aertist) or well paid (codemonke) jobs is necessary for mankind to survive. We can survive without artists, but we would die without farmers and trashmen.
>>6525098>It's the same poses. Pinups...Why doesn't so anyone do something dynamic or in perspective? I wanna see a dragon biting into the wing of an f22, with the pilot ejecting.
>>6525112there's nothing prestigious about art work and artists rarely earn more then average salary. it's also very competitive and rare job to find. the only exceptions are celebrities but they earn money by being popular and selling ads/doing collabs, not by art. techbros are just trying to convince everyone(and themselves) they are not driving civilization to it's collapse
>>6525105By poorly emulating it, they are at least producing variety, and developing their own style. Might look shit but it's their shit.
Do they still try to argue that AI art isnt theft even with embeddings?
>>6525114Even assuming that this isn't something AI will be able to do on its own, it just means that a much smaller subset of artists (and mostly people who are already in the industry) will be able to keep their jobs by drawing thumbnails and doing general art direction choices that can then be fed into the algorithmic daemon. And most fanart and commissions aren't that dynamic or original.The market is definitely going to shrink if these tools become standard.I still believe in the value of art, mind you, but the economic side of things isn't looking too great.
>>6525004Maybe he did>>6525006and how long do you think that will be the case?
>>6525016>> 3D>> crypto>> NFT>> AIweird comparison but whatever helps you cope.
>>6525147not weird at all. tell me why is it weird
>>6525144>Maybe he didHAHAHAHA WHAT A CLOWN
>>6525049>>6525076could post art to you retards and you'd literally be guessing if it's AI art or not. You don't have a clue because many times it's that good, you would just have to hope the hands are messed up. Soon you won't be able to tell at all.
>>6525160>could post art to you retards and you'd literally be guessing if it's AI art or not.Do it?
>>6525147It's artfags use to try and defame "tech bros". At the end of the day we will only know in retrospect how useful it all will be. Time will tell. It's all speculation an guessing
its time we all give him a read
>>6525155>HAHAHAHAH THERE'S NO WAY AI WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT SOON.cope
>>6525166Do what? A photo of a car and a horse? Huh? What are we coping here?
>>6525164Tekbros do a great job defaming themselves without the assistance of artists.
>>6525144Pathetic...
>>6525163You know he won't lol. Why do we even bother. Maybe this time he really will! lmao!
>>6525172>>6525164>Artfags>TechbrosWhat's all this name-calling? Is this American politics?
>>6525165I did. He's a retard, sadly. Doesn't mean technological progress isn't a problem, but it's not a problem in the way he argues and his solution is pure nihilism.
>>6525176its basicly lefties (artfags) and righties (techbros)
>>6525179Have you seen silicon valley? It's mostly leftoids...
>>6525176I am not aware of any other name than techbros. What is the preferred term? Ai enthusiasts? That doesn't roll off the tongue so good. Faggot chumgurgler
>>6525175Why not? Doesn't sound like that big of a deal
>>6525182techbrat.
>>6525182So mad. What have "techbros" ever done to you
>>6525178in what sense is it a problem, then?Although, i agree that his solutions are not really the best
>>6525186Nothing at all, they are such kind hearted folk. AI alignment is a solved problem and my kids will live in utopia the AI creates for us.
>>6525163>>6525175AI or Original
>>6525197Ai alignment is a meme. These tools are just tools to automate tasks. We don't have a thinking machine that needs to be aligned with our wishes
>>6525126>Might look shit but it's their shit.Sigh. This is why artists are poor and angry.
>>6525184Big talk no action is the /g/entleman's way.
>>6525199Original/human, 100%.
>>6525209Wrong.
>>6525190The solution is total equality of outcome hyper-egalitarianism.You know how people don’t really like healthy food like broccoli of fish oil? Same with equality of outcome. It’s instinctive deep rooted and visceral disgust. I bet it would solve all our problems forever.
>>6525200Yes. I believe you, I'm sorry for being sarcastic. There is no problem, and won't be a problem in the future.
>>6525181Economically they're probably not very left. But yes culturally they are. All into troons, faggots etc.
>>6525210There is no way. Liar.
>>6525212>the solution is total equality of outcome hyper-egalitarianism.The leaders of these movements always wind up with the nicest dachas. "Some are more equal than others".
>>6525212wouldnt equality of outcome imply the death of human subjectivity? if all we do is "of the same objective, measurable quality" (equal), wouldnt that mean we all become the same person?
>>6525201They start out poor and angry, then use that as fuel to get better and not poor. Many stay angry! Most leave ic when they git gud.
>>6525199>>6525209Did you really edit this pic to try and prove your point? HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>6525222kek only took a few second, but this is futile since you can search images I guess.
>>6525219Marxism explicitly rejects equality of outcome.>>6525220That single person will still have its subjectivity
>>6525222and yes I edited it to avoid you searching for it, but obviously that doesn't work, the fact that you need to search it shows you can't tell anyway.
>>6525216>>6525222No surprises here.
>>6525227We already told you that image was human made.
>>6525209you image searched it
>>6525229yeah, after you image searched it and found it, obviously. I thought the color editing and flipping would work, guess not.
>>6525224how is it subjective if its the same as everyone else's subjectivity? that just sounds like a global echochamber
>>6525231It wasn't even me that replied to you
>>6525190ignore the first guys response, he should have at least mentioned that he's a different anon. the problem with uncle Ted is that he views civilizational progress as purely negative, justifying that with the whole idea of the power drive is a weird zero-sum framing of agency. with Ted, for one person to have agency, others must not have agency, so the bigger tribal groups are the worse off we are. in tribal societies the most people have agency, whereas with civilization becoming more complex and forming bigger clusters the individual loses relative importance. Ted's notion of 'the ultimate end of human striving' isn't plausible at all, though. individual agency is something that can exist in a social context. If you took Ted's logic totally seriously, the isolated human would be the most free, but in reality I can be 'more free' with other people sharing the world with me than I could be by myself - if they're good people and the relationships are functional. and the same thing goes for technology - it augments potential, and we can't give up that potential and 'be happy' living in hovels.
>>6525234doesn't matter, if someone can image find it even after I did that then the test is pointless.
>>6525227Me, the anon who said human 100% did not search it. I looked at it and saw coherent clothing, shape design, tension, balance, regularity(the spikes) one detail in particular, the smaller chest pocket, remained coherent behind the hoodie drawstring, something ai struggles with. Add to that the very unusual color for ai, and profiles being very rare, not sure I've seen ai do one right. My instinct was human from first glance, but detailed verified it.
>>6525236wow, that's barely coherent. I should probably get some sleep
This is an AI image.
>>6525236i mostly agree, i mostly mentioned ted because he had the guts to actually go against this religion of "Perpetual, Unending, Objective Progrees".the issue is that the "technology" that arose from the industrial revolution didnt concern itselt with "augmentation", the way a hammer or a sword would. it concerned itself with producing as much shit as possible for the population to consume. we couldve all lived with bikes and solar cookers, medicine wouldve still advanced and culture would still flourish without smokey coal plants, nuclear bombs and AI software that recommends you porn game adsbut maybe im just an idealist
>>6525247Yeah. Why does ai do those tiny spirals sometimes? I noticed it a lot when trying to make textures for a game. Rivets etc become spirals.
>>6525231Ok, so where is the ai one? Or will you man up and admit it's not possible today? Unless you go abstract... Fyi that test that goes around to tell ai anime images from human, I got 100% correct on that, but most people (on /v/ where is saw it)seem to get a couple wrong at least.
>>6525259image search ruins the test like I said. The only way to do something like this is for me to make a collage of 10 images or so and then you have like less that 2 minutes to respond on which is ai and which is not but that's more time than I want to invest in this right now, maybe I'll set it up in my spare time and drop it in an AI thread another day.
>>6525263Dude no one cares about image search, I only called you out because you lied.
>>6525264I didn't lie, wasn't me.
>>6525263You could simply generate and post an extremely impressive ai image that has us really questioning if it is real or not. That's all that is needed. There would be nothing to reverse image search.
>>6525268I guess you could say not finding anything means it is AI... But I would be honest at least, if I thought it passed 100% as human art or not.
Is this AI?
>>6525287Yes, you can tell easily especially the eyes
>>6525290Correct!https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/113rlta/riding_home/
>>6525287our uncanny valley detection is a remnant of our past civilizations dealing with imperfect chameleons trying to infiltrate our society, thank our genetic memory for making AI obvious
>>6525250personally, I think knowledge and then technology spiralling out of control was kind of inevitable. Once we ate the metaphorical fruit of knowledge we were already on course for the apocalypse. The problem is that "lmao, just don't do knowledge then" isn't an answer.
different anon, let me play the guessing game with you all for a bit as well! don't cheat now, okay?four images, at least one of which is made by either a human or an AI, in random order.
>>6525314
>>6525305that inevitability implies that the path of "knowledge" is unique. The industrial rev. started in Britain not only because of "knowledge", but also a lot of socio-political factors. China was a civilization in some ways more prosperous in the past and yet no industrialization there (until globalism forced them to adopt it too, ofc). And you cant really say that they were "dumber" than us.Also, todays knowledge seekers, aka scientists, only research what the big guys with the money tell them to (even though we have some evidence for extra sensorial perception, it is all dismissed and the funding for that research is cut, while OpenAI got some 10 bil dollars from bill gates a few days ago)But alas, "apocalypse" is a word which pretty much means revealing/revelation in ancient greek, so maybe the shit that is going on now will teach us something.
>>6525315
>>6525321
>>6525314AI>>6525315Human>>6525321AI>>6525323AI
>>6525314God damn, HOTAI>>6525315Not AI>>6525321AI>>6525323Nice one, AI
>>6525314ai>>6525315human>>6525321ai>>6525323ai, looks like low steps used to gen this
>>6525324>>6525326>>6525327yes, well done /ic/, well done!
Post tougher quizzes.
>>6525334>HOWEVER>500 POINTS TO STABLE DIFFUSION
Human or AI ?
Wake me up when the lawsuits finish. No reason for me to bother trying this stuff out and possibly growing reliant on it until I can be sure about whether or not it will bite me in the ass legally.
>>6525373Human>>6525382Money laundering
>>6525381>bite me in the ass legallyUse models based on public domain, licensed or your own work if you are concerned.
>>6525314Melted lineart, assymetrical, not round eyes, broken flower, shape of chin and jaw varies wildly, transluscency of bra material makes no sense, nipples show too much, breasts almost don't, shape of leg makes zero sense where the thighhighs begins.Textbook AI.>>6525315Consistent Lineart, sketch makes sense in direction variation, dynamic posing, flower has simplified but correct shape, VERY strong gesture all over the picture.Human.>>6525321Melted Lineart, assymetrical eyes, hands have inconsistent shape and structure, detais in clothing appear random, details in the background has the characteristic diffusion curves.AI.>>6525323Any artist with that skill in color stylization knows that the contrast of details and values should emphasize the eyes and face area, this has no focus, detais have SEVERAL dirrections with no sense of flow or gesture, focal values are on the leg?! And background and foreground elements mix straights and curves with no rhyme or reason.AI.
>>6525179Which shows how retarded American politics are. Criticism of AI is conservative at its core, the argument is that not all 'progress' is good and many things are worth preserving.
>>6524602Is it worth it getting into nsfw art for money in your opinion? Don't quite know what to do about it and I fear I might be getting into this too late.
>>6524402Honestly you could have gotten better results just using img2img and a bit of inpainting
>>6524943>>6524949damn that looks like shit. pantsu is safe.
>two threads with over 500 replies eachYou fuckers dig your own graves.
>>6524987>>6524989>>6524990>>6524978>allegories instead of straight answersLiterally AI-tier lmao
>616 repliessince when do streetshitters merit such attention?
>>6526653Is not that hard to get to this amount of replies on a slow board.There are less IPs here than in /beg/
>>6524248This has so much more control and precision than img2img, it's not really comparable
>>6524293>the new CSP function that offers automatic lighting are helpfulIt's not helpful at all. It's low effort gimmick bloat added to justify the new subscription model and attract /beg/s who don't know any better.
>300+ post after bump limitWE CAN REACH 1000 POSTS AFTER BUMP LIMIT!!LETS GOOOOOOOO!!
>>6526482If you have people already commissioning you, yes. Otherwise I really have no idea, it was a hustle to get there and I don't know how worse it is to start now, assuming it's worse and not the same
>>6524332DUDE GOTTA CONSOOOOM MORE MORE MORE
>>6527455You want us to stop supporting artists? Done already. I don't need to pay you for my fursona art anymore and I can still get my art with some incredible quality
Just let this shit die ffs
>>6527471>Just let this shit die ffsMost artists are failures. Cope.
>>6527476>So is AI fags
>>6524264art has already become less meaningful commodities, but now its going to become instant dopamine juice that people will just keep chugging on in endless supply. and this AI shit is going to extend to all forms of art like cinema and music. no-one will be able to find any motivation to actually try. it will be the death to all creative drive.
>>6524829looks shit mate
>>6524631>>6524710>>6524911>>6525007Where do i download this ControlNet thing?
>>6527761lemon. party
>>6524708how is that a future anyone would want?
>>6524631>workflowkek...
>>6524700comparing mangaka making a manga with the help of paid assistants to a fucking collage maker operated by a no talent dumbfuck
>>6524322rotoscopy never made for good animation. this is just a painted over movie. You can probably get a decent movie eventually but you're not really affecting animation as a medium
>>6527761There's a GitHub for the extension and a huggingface for the models. Works pretty well. https://youtu.be/OxFcIv8Gq8o
>>6528151Cry about it. I get a new Patreon subscriber every day because people like what I'm making. Worry less about me and more about your own art.