/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

nah im shy

Test. Copied from acky bright.

Something i've been working on and off for a while.

>>6505397
How tf do you people spend more than 5 minutes on the same thing it sounds like hell.

I like to dro

>>6505397
noice

>>6505380
Is that your work? If yes post a full res pic or fuck off.

>>6505400

>>6505380
>>6505419 <- This.
PYW of fuck off, retard.

Hello

>>6505380
post yours first.

Here is line the lineart and coloring, I'm not a fan of my coloring.

>>6505400
By not having ADHD, I suppose. One work takes me around 6 hours, but I am a total beg, so they suck anyway, but I don't have problem with working on the same thing for several days.

>>6505397
>>6505410
cheers tradchads

I'm posting my work anyway but I don't see the upside of being rated by a literal nobody

>>6505419

no it's not, it's from a gouache course by Jeffrey Watts over at Watts atelier

>>6507265
yjk

rate my portrait

>>6507869
Pretty good, 9/10. Hair needs better shape design and the ear needs tinkering with, but all in all very good.

>>6507891
tyyy yeah I was more focused on the colors of the skin for this one. Went a little OD with the brush mixer tool lol

heres another 1

traditionaal mechanical pencil

>>6505380
let me hear it

>>6510204
this is a red board fag

so many traced paintover shit. unironically loomis. now. come back and post a series of plates after you complete them. these lipstick on pig tier drawings are not worth even discussing.

OP rate my drawing you fucking bitch.

>>6511145
>red board

what does red board even mean in this context? there was no rule of no posting fanervice art

How's this one?

>>6507920
just change the background to something more clear withouth this distortion like the middle of a city and it will be 10x better

I dont know how to communicate the textures I see, hatching can imply them but how do those guys make hyper-realistic drawings with just pencils?

>>6513360
>how to draw manga
>by Shane Anderson

A traditional artwork of mine from November 2022
(the file was too big so I had to resort to screenshotting the image itself)

Will also post regularly recent artworks and face studies of me.

>>6513941
*from me

Op here, sorry for nor responding so long, i just didn't know how to respond, so im just going to be honest no matter how much you seethe
>>6505395
Not interested in a 4minute soulless copy
>>6505397
Come back when you finish it
>>6505406
Deviant. Something's there
>>6505410
Looks like a painting my mom would find in a shed and throw away
>>6505517
A character that looks like she came straight out of a cheap firework packaging imposed on a stolen low res generic fantasy cottage background. What a treat
>>6506497
The coloring is better. You made no attempt to make this drawing stand on it's own.
>>6507423
Then why are you here If you're not interested in my opinion, not giving you the dick unless you ask for it
>>6507866
Looks too much like a child painted it
>>6507869
Looks inhuman
>>6507920
What even is this? I'm slightly intrigued by your background choice and character design
>>6510204
A crudely copied generic hentai drawing on lined paper, what do you think i think about it?
>>6511137
I like the face, everything else though - huge miss, too monotonous
>>6511179
>>6513360
How am I suposed to rate this?
>>6513770
Take better photos
>>6513941
I somewhat like it, it's like a puzzle with it's details, but not really, because looking at it make me slightly nauseous so it's not fun to look at

Rough ideas

>>6513988
beyond the not so worked background if I may add, is it due to the design or due to fucking up the proportions ?

>>6513988
I'll have you know it's a 4 minutes SOULFUL copy, thank you very much

>>6513941
What's going on with the background in the upper left? It feels like it's swirling around his axehead

>>6513792
who the fuck is Shane Anderson
>>6513988
by simply doing so maybe? what you'll encourage to do to someone who wants to be a MILF hentai artist?

>>6506497
Looks badass

>>6507869
I don't know if it's just me, but the grayish freckles kinda turn off the vibe, I'd have made them brown or even a bright color for interest

>>6513988
>How am I suposed to rate this?
With your eyes and fingers

Wasting way too much time on this

>>6513988
>>6513988
faggot no draw
here ill help you all out :)
>>6505395
good study! int
>>6505397
great texture! int
>>6505406
unbelievable appeal high int
>>6505410
i know that in real life the texture really fucks up the like-ability of this work. high beg.
>>6505517
uninstall your airbrush. low beg
>>6506497
nice shapes, too much going on in the face, which makes your simple coloring look bad in that area. int
>>6507265
deductions for the nose ring. The blend between the hair and the background is really nice. int
>>6507423
could use some work bogdanoff, low beg
>>6507866
use bigger areas of simplification when using gouache. mid beg.
>>6507869
woulda been famous in 2011. mid beg
>>6510204
LATAM. haha high beg
>>6511137
youll see solid results in a few years. high beg
>>6511179
nice appeal. mid beg
>>6513360
SOVL. mid beg
>>6513770
VALUE and EDGE. the denser the lines, the more weight and value an area will have, you need to draw as if you were carving a wood block, with attention to each line and make sure that they don't crosshatch until you learn first how to hatch and display volume wth VALUE and EDGE. beg but keep it up
>>6513941
the visible effort in the drawing is very nice. high beg
>>6514041
DUDE theres this BARCADE down the street, its like a BAR and an ARCADE where you can play games and ADULT at the same time
low int
>>6514818
unappealing man face on whatever it is the minotaur is holding.
int

>>6514827
>unappealing man face
Yeah I need to change that, it's a placeholder

>>6514818
Nice shading

>>6514827
>>6510204
>>6513360

I'm the same guy, how can I mid and high at the same time, and is high be better or worse than mid beg? Not sure how to use the words LATAM and SOVL in this contexts

Wonder if I could get a patreon if I could get digital

>>6515439
LATAM means latin american, I can tell purely from your lines that you are brown and ESL (english second language).
all begs are basically the same beg, the gap between low to high beg is basically nothing compared to the gaps between low->high int.
soul means its good. not good as in done well, but good as in theres some niche appeal to it.
also in what fucking world is high below mid? do you know what mid means? it means middle. faggot

>>6515590

By only saying 3 words "traditional mechanical pencil" already gives out I'm Argentinian? I'm pale and as white as a snowflake though so that part you got it wrong but kinda curious how what gave it off.

Also when combined with beg "high beg" or "mid beg" made it confusing, as if the "beg" part acted as a minus sign.

as an example imagine: "you're an extra beginner" and "you're not so beginner", with "you're a high class beginner" with "you're medium class beginner". Both examples have opposite connotations of if the former or the later is better at drawing.

>>6515635
Dude you're not supposed to take this shit so seriously come on

>>6515635
latin americans all have the same line quality in their drawings, its just pattern recognition.
in /ic/ language the scale ranking is
permabeg
prebeg
lowbeg
midbeg
highbeg
low int
int
high int
adv
pro
you'll never see someone above int post here

>>6515716
huh, curious, so other latin americans have my same smudgy lines, I wonder if the leads of American mechanical pencils have other qualiy than Latin America or why does that keep happening.
so if ''m in between midbeg and highbeg, I've gotta level up about twice to be considered a good artist around here

What level is this?

>>6515716
>Recognizing patterns in other people pencil chicken scratches
It sounds absolutely ludicrous but I'm sure there's some truth to that
I wonder how much autism you have to painfully absorb by staying in this shithole of a board to reach that undesirable plane of perception.

>>6515727
I don't want to be mean but they look like deformed inflatable plastic dolls. I can't gap to that.
I think you should go back and practice more your lines, you obviously have some potential but if you keep going like this you're going to get a stunted growth.
>>6515729
It's cute and pretty ok but a bit flat and rigid. Do a bit of dynamic poses before doing the next one, that should loose your figures

>>6515740
Not really mine though, I'm the guy who does the graphite mechanical pencil sketches, I just posted a picture of a friend of mine who got me into drawing in the first place because I was curious of his power level here.

I like how he's more on the dynamic expressive side, at the very least woman look like they love sex and are really going out at it unlike the painful looking faces of most hentai.

Most recent thing I made

>>6515716
What power level does that make to Mikeymegamega?, pretty sure above int but not sure if pro.

>>6515778
unappealing but yea low pro. hes already made it

>>6515727
low beg. awful everything

>>6515832
so my shitty smudgy sketches are better than that? I appreciate the compliment

>>6505380

>>6516007
Technically proficient but the expression is goofy as hell, good work otherwise

>>6515749
You're both really bad, but I don't mean it as an insult as at the same time both of you, in different ways, show the most important, and never spoken on this board, trait for someone that wants to draw: the ability of drawing something and having another person understanding what you wanted to show them.
I know that it sounds extremely stupid, but it's literally the core level of skill you need to improve, so you guys just need to have fun and with time you'll get better
Just, like I said before, do some experimentation looking at guides and stuff, because that's like protein shakes for the drawing muscles in your brain.
You're still far from the point where one starts worrying about technical stuff, so just go fucking wild

>>6515778
>>6515832
>you'll never see someone above int post here
I've seen far better works than that here.

>>6516383
you mean the most important thing on learning how to draw is having friends to show your work?

Oh my God, Yu-Gi-Oh! gave me the answer all this time and I never noticed: Frienship is the strongest force in the Universe! (I'm just cracking a joke with this last sentence, don't take it too serious or personal)

>>6516390
Can you rescue some of those and post them? for... research purposes

>>6505380

>>6505380
Rate me.

>>6505380
Your art sucks it’s mad boring

>>6515441
Nope

>>6513941
Sucks

>>6513360
Really terrible

>>6516394
>I’m just cracking a joke with this last sentence
autism

>>6516740
Cringe and line thickness is bad

>>6516892
Dude you’re going to put me to sleep with that

>>6516397
Dude that one on the bottom right looks like a straight up abortion

>>6513988
These are just opinions they’re not even critiques.

>>6516740
Bad but charming
Keep practicing dude

>>6516902
Why not? have you seen people with Patreon? aside the fact that's digitally colored what makes this Patreon worthy and not mine?:
>>6515749
>>6515727

>>6517380
Talk is cheap.
Let's see your digital art first.

>>6517380
its because you SUCK and you will get NOTHING out of it get GOOD first you FUCKING latam

older stuff

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>>6517363
>Bad but charming

You might as well type deihdhdjrejiehhsh redoruririrrhe because that makes no sense. It's bad. That's it

>>6516911
Thanks for the constructive criticism, Anon

>>6517571
>>6517568
Very 3D, did you do Dynamic Sketching or where can I do to render my shit to look so 3d using only pencil?

>>6517609
It's useless to type an essay for a low effort drawing posted randomly on 4chan.
It's a decent drawing that misses a clear direction and formal practice behind it, while the guy that drew it has obviously some knack at drawing differently than most people that post their horrors here.
There is nothing to say apart a shoulder pat and a "keep up with it"
Do you have a problem with that? Go on, type with your amateur hands a 3000 words critique post that's going to be ignored or forgotten in two minutes after anyone closes the browser

>>6516624
Mikey is not a high bar, stop being retarded.

>>6517688
Just saying I've never seen anyone getting over that bar in this hellhole, that's why I was curious on what stuff he's seen and how good it was. I mean, REIQ is a higher bar, but pretty sure he doesn't post here

>>6517380
Both of those reference pics are garbage. If those people have clients it’s because they’re good at sales, not because their art is good.

>>6517766
https://www.patreon.com/lionheartxiii

>>6517580
>an axio-radial water pump in a feedback loop
a weapon to surpass metal gear

>>6517776
yeah, you’re not even that good (bad)

>>6517776
Someone should just put dude out of his misery.

>>6517579
>>6517580
These are cool, man

(Besides the baby legs)

>>6517864
I kinda like it, it's got a cartoony feel to lt.

>>6515832
>>6516390
>>6517688
>>6513988

Then let's formulate the critics backwards, here's some official art from actual eroges on sale.

What does Mikeymegamega unappealing or low quality pro in comparison to them? What's been ic art closer to them, and what's mostly missing on the pictures shared on this thread to go on the right path to start looking like this?

>>6517806
what's that pic?

>>6517952
Your standards are too low. These are all /int/ to me.

>>6517965
>/int/
I hate this newfag meme so fucking much
there is no such thing as int, medbeg or all the other cope you faggots come up with

>>6517965
ok mr. eroge connosieur, show me a visual novel which has hotter chicks than Taimanin Asagi

wip

>>6518092
nice nipple, you should lean into that and give her a detailed pus pus too

>>6518092
Seems everything good but I think with that style you need to be closer to finalization to see if something needs correction. Really love that type of milky tits
Ah yeah we're still doing that meaningless beg-mif shit, so I'll give you high beg/low int but it's temporary until I see the finished version.
Also do you have some tutorials on tits in movement? I need a specific pose but I can't find it anywhere

>>6518102
You know, I like the minimalistic pus there, maybe just a bit of value on it to give it a chubby feel

>>6518107
I just look at tits I like and try to keep their softness in mind, I didn't bother learning anatomy yet.

>>6517969
So would the rating scale be beg or not beg?

>>6518210
literally yes, you’re either a /beg/ or you aren’t
this newfag trend of grading how /beg/ they are is pure faggotry

Current WIP

>>6518287
never draw with symmetry on, it makes everything uncanny

>>6505380

practice, I didn't use lines

>>6518213
what kind of mental illness is this

>>6517779
it's supposed to be an all radial jet engine. not feedbacking. pipe at upper left is intake. bladder looking thing on the right is supposed to be combustor, feeding into radial turbine. foreground pipe at lower side is exhaust

>>6517673
i just did lots of geometric bodies with on perspective lines in school. for thr shading do many layers of thin paralel lines on top of eachother from the most faint all the way to black until they merge into seamless grayscale and you can't see the lines

>>6505380
Probably a 5 or 6.

>>6518591
CAT
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>>6518092
>those nipples
>that fat distribution
/ic/ scribbles haven't made me feel like this in a loooong time

>>6505380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwfFv5KpJrk

>>6518092
Finally done with it. I feel I've lost something in the process but I'm happy with it anyway.

>>6518813
I don't know about your rating but I can easily masturbate to that, so good job

>>6518813
High beg. I can see where are going with your style, but you yourself need a bit more maturing on your execution, some lines are just kinda thrown there
Overall very positive tho, keep going this way man

>>6518585
damn that's based
I flunked my thermodynamics class, you see
also >>6517587 is my second favorite of those pieces you posted. GMI as fuck

>>6517580
Holy shit, Scott Robertson is visiting ic in disguise?

6518596

>>6518813
Love your shading, anon. I can really feel the form.
>>6518287
I like your attention to overlaps, this is good.
>>6516007
Good forms and structure, it's clear you know what you're doing. I think the face will easen up a bit if you get rid of some of the lines on it.
>>6516892
Your perspective is a little bit off, especially on the shape of his nose. It'll help you to study how to apply overlaps in your drawings, too. Otherwise, nice lines, you'll grow into a fine artist.

>>6519255
> I think the face will easen up a bit if you get rid of some of the lines on it.
I don’t see how bad things look until people point it out to me, kinda like tunnel vision or something. Thanks though…

>>6519266
I know, it's like our brains are against us. It sucks. That drawing is really good, stay winning.

Hi

>>6519266
Man I wish I had that kind of line control with digital, I wonder if it's because I have a welfare, screenless tablet because I have zero problems doing it on paper

>>6519242
I dig

>>6519242
Updated the lighting. Definitely helps, thanks

>>6519705
Based freikorps soldiers

>>6505380
I will leave my most recent finished drawing, I know I need to improve, so I would appreciate it if you would not just make fun of me and tell me how to improveYDL4

rate me

>>6505380

>>6505380
Needed some two-tone Noir stuff.
>>6505400
At a certain point it becomes a satisfaction/confidence thing, particularly with a project that requires a lot of technical knowledge. I have a Bionicle project in the works, and it always scares me at first to get back to working on it because of all the 3d shapes involved. But it turns out I might have a better grasp on that stuff than I give myself credit for, because it actually goes faster once I finally sit down to work on it.

>>6521167
Nice nice nice

Need to work on doing more dynamic poses, but I just enjoy drawing robot girls regardless of it.

>>6505380
Drew this in complete fucking anger as the shit bag Puerto Rican whore crack head above my apartment who always banger her feet when she walks like a gazelle on steroids. We've been through two court sessions with the police who wont do anything, the buildings owner who wont do anything, the neighbors who wont do anything, the courts who wont do anything, FOR 4 FUCKING YEARS!

>>6523488
Just move out
You zooms change house like fucking socks, are you the exception or something?

>>6514114
It's just difficult to figure out right away where one thing starts and the other begins, they blend together, and when you look closer to focus, instead of seeing well rendered details, you see wobbly lines. That's why the entire drawing is kinda head-spinning
>>6514827
You didn't post any drawing either, fucking retard, gtfo
>>6516912
an honest opinion is the most valuable critique you can receive, but it hurts the most to get it

>>6523606
No Job, no cash, thanks to the jews and racists blacks and spics that own/run everything here in NJ NYC. Can you loan me some cash?

>>6523754
Happened to me too. The comfy area I lived for 10 years got slowly infested by loud, noisy dirty subhumans until they eventuality pushed me out by stuffing every surrounding house with 2-3 families per and sky-rocketing the rent

My most recent one.

op back to talk shit

>>6514041
The monkey is cool but I'm more intrigued by your method than the drawings themselves. Anyway none of the "top" components hit desu. You def know your shit though
Anyway if you framed this in some cool way then you would get shit ton of hits on any social platform because this design method is interesting by itself
>>6514818
not finished gtfo
>>6515441
>>6517380
it seems like you're just copying vintage hentai desu
>>6515727
>>6515749
this is interesting because the composition and planning are tip top but like, every single thing you've drawn is terrible, feels like you spent a lot of time but didn't use any reference.
>>6515729
boring, nobody will look at this twice
>>6515753
i was actually confused what those red things were so i looked it up and it looks nothing like the thing you wanted it to look like. Feels like your lineart killed the forms and the shading doesn't help, in fact it's bad
>>6516007
I like it, sorta like a renaissance painting the way it captures the moment. It loses me on the.. thing on the bottom (was that supposed to be a car door?), you need to draw it properly
>>6516397
aspiring tattoo designer or something in the vein? bottom left's details are too scattered and sparse, bot right tiger clashes badly with the roses
>>6516740
why did you cut off the shading at the bottom? This is where everyone's eyes are going numnuts, or maybe you didn't intend to cut it off and fucker up
>>6516892
unfinished gtfo
>>6517568
these designs don't appeal to me, this is a style that's outdated and for a good reason
>>6517798
pick one instead of cramming 2 drawings into one post
>>6517864
well uh fix the baby legs nigga
>>6518813
This is like the definitive ic drawing where it's technically competent but has terrible appeal and storytelling

>>6525353 cont

>>6518166
cool, you can make tons of money with this if you sell it as a sticker, it's just very nicely done
>>6518287
well if someone finds this anthro attractive they would probably like it a lot, the pose is too stiff though
>>6518325
the red eyes are somewhat intriguing but my nigga an ai can do this in a few seconds rethink your end goal
>>6518381
random doodles, not even framed in an interesting way
>>6519730
cool, the face is definetely lacking detail, if the entire drawing had the subtle forms you did on the hands it would be great, also cast shadows too sharp
>>6519255
i guess it's pretty, but boring
>>6519266
I get that it's supposed to be raunchy but the design changes you did to peach are too much to the point where it doesn't look like her (hair and face). Also this doesn't work as porn (if you were trying to make it titillating), it's too grotesque
>>6519288
your facial features are terrible
>>6519705
cool nazis, the cut off boot breaks my heart though
>>6520077
I have nostalgia for this early 2000's digital artstyle so ill give it a pass but there's something wrong with her proportions that make this look so wrong, her breasts look bad, also no navel?
>>6520500
cool octopuses i guess
>>6520506
i wonder how much this would be improved if you lost the grandma lips and drew proper fingers
>>6521167
possible best in thread, great pose, interesting angle, colors, background, textures, designs and it's sexy
>>6522728
the colors, her wimpy pose, lack of weight, highlights without shadows, i don't like this
>>6523488
xra reference? anyway cool shapes but the compositions is too bad, text scattered, this is nauseous
>>6524136
why didn't you make the glove the focal point? just terrible planning on your part

drawn from life

>>6505397
excelent blending
>>6521167
Interesting.
>>6517864
Not bad. You did run out of room, though. Best to consider the fogure as a whole before starting
>>6517587
Excellent
>>6511137
Nice

>>6507869
Very instagram like
But quite skilled. I don’t even do digital >>6505395
Not bad for a copy. I prefer the art that comes out of Trigger Studios
>>6525404
Like a bargue plate

>>6525353
> the.. thing on the bottom (was that supposed to be a car door?)
It’s the girl at the taco truck meme, when she’s at the take-out window
>>6525377
> it's too grotesque
A mild compliment
punish me, daddy…

Alright I want to get rated too
>inb4 it's too dark
yeah I know

Thoughts?

>>6526439
Hang-on-the-refrigerator worthy

>>6526514
:(

i really hope this is good. idk, ive been trying to practice alot more

>>6505380

>>6525682
Can you tell me about you hatching process? It looks really nice.

>>6527824
Thanks man. I just like the “form lines” that leinil yu and art Addams do, so I’m kinda mimicking that from memory I guess. I found using a pencil brush looks way better for that than my usual ink one, I’m a long way aways though…

>>6525377
Could I ask you to elaborate on what you mean by "wimpy pose"? Again, I'm aware I need to work more on my dynamic posing skills, but I'm not entirely sure what about the pose makes it "wimpy".

I'll finish it eventually

>>6505380
I already know what people are gonna say based on how this pic has performed but why not.

>>6519705
Love this.

>>6529668
Man really posting poorly drawn furry trash. Here, it's too confusing to look at and the composition is all over the place because every part of this pic is trying to fight for my attention. The worst part of this is that they look stiff despite the intention clearly being for them to be in motion.

>>6529668
Not even worth a rating

>>6529668
complete mess. most of it I have no ideawhat I'm looking at.

>>6529148
Any books? Or you just studied their artworks?

>>6529688
>>6529691
>>6529706
How did I know this was going to be the feedback I was getting. Just tell me I'm beg and be done with it

>>6529782
>Just tell me I'm beg and be done with it
You're not just beg. You're shit. That's all that needs to be said.

>>6529782
It's hard to read and most people here do not like furry stuff. Try /dig/ on /trash/.

Learning digital art

>>6518506
it's called being a woman

>>6529992
Focus on learning the forms, you can use AI to check that unless its hands then forget it

I gotta make the values less harsh but other than that I had so much fun with this

>>6529767
theres a couple video courses from peter han you might find useful, one is a CGMW video called "dynamic sketching with peter han" and the other is called the same thing but its not from CGMW and peter han is doing the same course on a chalkboard. both are pretty similar, and cover line confidence, form lines etc.

>>6530018
it looks like he deep throathing some meat kek

>>6530018
t-thats a benis

>>6529668
Very bad composition and huge visual clutter

>>6529791
I was there when that pic got posted in the last /dig/ thread. Even they hated it. They're not entirely wrong but still.

>>6529163
the way she's standing, knees inside, she can be tipped over with a nudge

Request by someone else btw

>>6529782
You are! But if you want us to be done with it then why are you also still crying in the /fag/ thread just cause a few anons called out your work for being shit? Fucking kill yourself.

Tcticit I 8t

>>6507869
Nose and lips too big. Freckles look like you put them on with a spray tool with no concern for the shape of the face - some are even in her hair. The far side of the face looks like it's at a different angle than the near side, and the way her neck connects to her torso makes her look quadrupedal. General advice: imagine what you're drawing as a three-dimensional object.

>>6514818
How are you this good at drawing feet but this bad at drawing hands?

stayed up late practicing tonight

>>6532030

>>6532031
pls rate these

>>6505380
Post 10 min life drawing cunt

>>6532031
>>6532033
Bodies are good, the faces/heads need a LOT of work

>>6532086
I agree but can you pinpoint what exactly is wrong?

>>6532164
OP is a useless pretender faggot
Practice skull landmarks first, learning the names helps a lot but takes it more effort. If you have some money to burn buying a used medical replica is a great invaluable resource that will always be useful for referencing.
Learn head muscles and names after, then next the fat pads, look up the same research material plastic surgeons use.
When you practice don’t draw in a normal sized sketchbook or digital, buy big newspaper pads and draw using conte or charcoal but conte is much better imo. Draw using your shoulder and core not from your wrist. Best of luck

>>6531759
Im not nigger OP, your work is well done and I see your inspiration may come from nouveau, I see you did a good represenation of the changing planes in the neck and clavicles but you are losing that structure in the face, specifically on cheekbones,cheeks and sides of the mouth there are a lot of subtle plane changes there that you can point out - especially since in your composition the eye is drawn directly to the cheek area - the issue is that theres so much information everywhere else that once your eye arrives at the cheek youre met with a big blank, even smooth surface. The skin texture can absolutely be smooth for nouveau purposes but its the suggestion of the structure underneath that can benefit your study, pic related is a simplified version of what I mean even if your subject is not a fatass or old the anatomy is still there and you can exploit that subtleness

>>6531759
>>6532191
im retarded and forgot the pic, here you go

>>6513770
Some of those artists copy straight from a photo to reach hyper realism using a grid method, it depends highly on your goals, some artists just like grinding rendering.
If you want to draw it “yourself” without a rendering focused method meant for 1:1 copying, you have to learn the anatomy of your subject, don’t get ahead on crosshatching before studying the skeleton, muscles and feather distribution and variation of the anatomy first. Crosshatching is a complex skill on itself i wouldn’t mix the two until Id feel comfortable with either first, experiment with simple blocky shading to extract the top, side and bottom planes of your subject and get a sense of understanding first.

>>6530018
Harsh values are fine if you want a strong contrasting dramatic look, avoid using muted values unless your piece specifically calls for that intention.
As rule of thumb separate your top, side and bottom planes in different values.
In fact in your piece if I were you I’d add an extra darker black weight only in the down planes - since on your current side and bottom planes you’re using the same weight of value like on the side of the neck and hair

>>6532191
>>6532192
Very helpful, many thanks.

>>6525377
thanks anon for the advice, as for the lack of a belly button, it is because of its regenerative power, but I am still making changes to it

>>6531038
The pose and composition can be improved, try making a black and white mask of your silhouette and try to tell at a glance what’s going on your subject, if the silhouette doesn’t make sense when you see it for the length of a fraction of a second it’s a sign you need to change it into a more readable pose. Draw tiny greyscale thumbnails first to explore poses and compositions so you don’t make a mistake of committing to a full scale detailed drawing without giving honest feedback to yourself.
For example in your drawing I’d reevaluate what’s more important for me and what to make the focus, is it the action of the fist moving in a punching motion? Is it the mid jump action? Is the cape flowing with the characters motion? Think of taking a picture of someone in the middle of a movement that’s where the narrative comes from. Even pinups have a sense of rhythm and movement.

>>6525688
Im not faggot OP
I enjoy this one, I’m not as concerned with your values but you can definitely push them and revise them to further draw the eye to the areas most important to you, don’t be afraid to lighten these relevant areas and even darkening other sections that provide less or no information such as to the far left of the horse for a more dramatic chiaroscuro, I’d suggest revising the proportions and anatomy of the man, can’t say much about horse since I’m not familiar to them but it looks good anon keep improving

>>6532300
I wanted to add after taking a second look now you can also push the pose for both human and animal even further, I see your pose as a section of the movement but not the peak of that makes sense, you can reposition the front of the horse (legs, head and front section of the torso) further upwards to accentuate the weight and impulse the horse takes to gallop ahead, same for the man you could adjust the pose to add a sense of the man balancing to compensate the relationship of the movement the horse has. Might be useful to review videos of people galloping on horses in a similar manner.

>>6511163
Loomis is fucking shit that you will outgrow or become stunted by it eventually, the worst advice i took and had to take effort to unlearn, pick up an anatomy book faggot don’t take shortcuts Loomis is garbage that will make your art lack movement, he was a fashion and product magazine illustrator for a reason it doesn’t work for most other cases. If you’re going to recommend someone to anyone recommend John Singer Sargent instead

>>6505380
I can’t get over how much this pic looks like a girl I know that got addicted to coke

>>6531362
What's wrong with the hands?
The monster hands are like that on purpose

>>653234
Bump
Faggots are incapable or elaborating

not my 'best' but most recent

>>6532989
Cute
The paint strokes make feel the perspective off though, maybe you can fix it fiddling with the transform tools if you're in photoshop

>>6532300
>>6532303
Wow an actually helpful critique on /ic/! Thanks for all the advice anon

>>6532989
Have you considered throwing this into open source stable diffusion to refresh your eye and try other iterations without compromising too much of your own time? It’s what I enjoy doing if I feel I’m hitting a wall and gives me motivation to try other things or retry the piece again. Your tones are interesting and earthy I enjoy the atmosphere of it, I like how the pink of its tongue stands out and pulls your attention right away and the shape of the creature leads your eye to the rest of the lizard, but I get a feeling you’re getting too caught up in the color rather than the structure, I’d advice doing few more rough studies on the anatomy of this creature (without painting color) before continuing working on this piece, it’s looking good anon, same as my previous suggestions to other anons locate and practice the top, side and down planes to give your piece more depth and a grounded sensation to it.

>>6533341
np man we’re all gonna make it, except faggot OP

>>6533611
This is what I mean by locating the top, side and down planes in a structure

>>6533611
>>6533616
Have you considered throwing your fucking self down a bridge together with your shit diffusion
Fuck off

>>6527558
This is from a personal preference but adding an effect of flash photography would be pretty cool, the harsh cast of shadows of a pseudo flash photo plus a trailcam-style vignette on the edges of the piece would give a much tenser feeling. But it all boils downs on your intention anon, what setting are you looking for? is it a banal, cozy everyday type of feeling? or an unsettling sudden discovery that youd sense the moment you stepped into the room? The lighting of the piece gives me this everyday common occurrence vibe - but the muted sterile colors point me to the other direction and sort of contradict it but again it depends if its intentional. The bathroom looks intentionally tidy and well kept, like everything is alright for the exception of what the toilet holds, it gives off a sense of secrecy that you could ramp up - and is where the flash photography/trail cam suggestion is coming from.

>>6526439
Youre getting too distracted by the outward look of your drawing rather than the structure, try studies of the individual pieces that make up your subject, make rotating sketches in different poses of the gun, armor, helmets etc.
Experiment with simpler blocky shading with charcoal, conte, pastels, dont focus on cross hatching yet, you need to build a relationship with your own intention and planning ahead if that makes sense - always have in mind that each of your strokes need to have an explicit purpose dont scribble unless youre aware youre doing it and knowingly take the risk its going to be read as random filler.

>>6526514
Completely useless advice kill yourself

>>6533653
Did I hit a nerve faggot? As if every artist throughout history hasn’t done something the previous generation wouldn’t have bitched about cheating, the sooner you let go of your fragile ego the better your ability for self expression will be. Why don’t you go back to rubbing two sticks to make a fire you hypocritical mong

>>6533653
Best advice I could give you from one artist to another is drop your ego (five grams of shrooms for you or try Cognitive Behavioral Therapy). It only hurts your development as an artist. Unless you think the great masters are shit cause the employ of camera obscura, photography, the multiplane camera, or using anything else other than their bare nails.

pls rate me daddy

>>6527798
It looks you’ve spent a good amount of time face which looks pleasing, but the movement of the hands, arms, torso, and the positioning of the feet could be revised, I feel the pose of the feet and legs are also interfering with reading the character is standing in solidly in whatever environment you have in mind, I’d also advise for you to always prioritize the prop first when sketching out the initial drawing, if you draw the sword before moving onto other less important parts of your subject such as the the face then you will be able to focus on the pose as a whole and it’s interaction with objects, and to show more narrative such as deciding if it’s a heavy sword for example, don’t leave the props half drawn the full shape is as important as the rest of the characters anatomy.

>>6533731
Are you a fujo anon? Left looks like a pleasing default style, but don’t be afraid of adding more depth and detail to the characters features, hard to judge without seeing rest of your material but I get a feeling you’re not as inclined in drawing both eyes visibly but I may be judging too harshly, aside from that I can only suggest that you draw the rest of the body, especially in the case of the drawing in the right since it’s easy to fall into disembodied hand effect since you’re not considering the structure of the body as a whole, I’d also suggest planning out the silhouette shape of your composition before hand, since the drawing at the right the readability of the pose is hard to catch at a glance.
I do feel the black squares are kind of hurting and pulling away attention form the drawing itself, it may work better just to have a black background. Remember that the solids artists use as “space filler” in background can also serve a purpose, is it representing a doorway in the background? A hall? An object? The symmetrical and clean edges of the black square also hurt how it integrates compared to your looser line style. Remember all elements must have a purpose avoid just filling in space for the sake of it.

>>6532989
Here Anon, I agree with the other Anon on AI SD, you can make some comparisons in-between, it also helps having reference of reptile anatomy for this particular cases (regardless if its an extinct animal). Guessing this little fella is a dimetrodon. Giving you my artistic insight, aside diffusion, you are lacking structure, you cannot differentiate anatomy from it. Moving onto texture, its hard to define the intention around the dorsal fin (being so thin you would expect subsurface scattering and a smooth looking surface), there's lack of compression wrinkles in the skin and lack of suggestive details such as scales (you dont need to draw the entire reptile with them, is just enough to suggest it on the mid-tones). Moving onto values, human eye is kin to contrast, you can play with that too, and color theory is a bit dull, you can try warming up the environment (make it yellower) specially if your subject is on the cool color scheme. There are some other rendering details specially on the water lacking either transparency and reflection, but before any of that you should concentrate on getting the underlying structure right first.
>>6533653
Also KYS

>>6533669
>>6533680
>>6533772
>AI cuck general

>>6533805
Post 5 min life drawing

>>6533805
Ai cuck here
Anon is right, post 5 min life drawing, I'll do the same or you go suck a dick

Malon from zelda

>>6533834
Very nice m8, I really like the flow of the fabric and direction of the lines, this is just my opinion but I feel the arm raising like that kind of hijacks your eye trying to flow down into the rest of the composition, my gaze begins at her eyes next to her hair blowing in the wind gently until it hits the elbow and I’m kind of stuck in that arm area looping into the elbow, then hand and back to elbow again.
It’s also not a natural pose it take some effort to mimic that posture and I feel my muscles stretching in effort trying to hold it, why is she holding her hand out like that? Is she reaching towards the viewer? If that’s the case maybe you need to add more foreshortening since right now it feels rather stiff when it’s just bending towards the side like that, like it’s pivoting like the hands of a clock do.
If the arm stops interrupting the movement of the fabric I feel it will instead enhance this flowing motion you have already working on the rest of her

>>6533767
You have good flow even if you may be shitposting kek

>>6533834
I’d also suggest drawing the rest of her legs and feet

>>6533805
How's the dick?
I'm worried about you anon, pls don't choke.

>>6533856
You caught me!
ahahahahha

>>6514827

OP confirmed /beg/tard.

be as harsh as you can, it's the only thing that forces me to go back and bury my nose on books

>>6533756
yes i am big fujo.

ty sensei i will heed your advice

>>6534610
I enjoy the negative space aspect you’re playing with a much brighter value in your background and the red tint flowing in your subject, it feels at a glance the character is in a brightly artificial lit room like a club.
Aside from anatomy structure practice mentioned in this thread (skeleton>muscle>fat >clothing) I’d suggest continue exploring global illumination, pic related imagine the light pouring from your bright background into your subject - light rays bounce around and the color source bleeds into objects depending on their material qualities, you’re already applying this but do push it more. Look into subsurface scattering you can dial up this quality in this drawing.
For the pose itself it seems a tad forced, take a picture of yourself putting on a glove and pay attention to your posture and feel your own body if the pose feels comfortable or not, it does depend though if you want your subject to appear like they’re posing for a photo shoot but if your angle is for a more relaxed and natural approach then lowering the hand positions and adjusting them for more foreshortening so it doesn’t compete attention wise with the face may help in establishing this spontaneous incognito photo aspect of it, same applies for the leg positioning even if your final piece is cropped it’s always beneficial drawing the full subject first to achieve your subject being grounded in space.

>>6534610
I’m also noticing the bunny ears are not symmetrical length wise, If the far left ear is folded it should be shorter and further foreshortened compared to the right, avoid making both the same length again if one of them is folded, imagine in your mind you reach your hand into and unfold yourself - the lengths of both ears straight will be different.

been on this for a few days now, still not done

>>6531038
Also in relation to this, and since you're a good art critique, how far would you say I am in comparison to a more skilled art mutual of mine, and what I should focus on in my art if I want to get some of his exact same strenghts?
>My art
https://hikaripaladin.newgrounds.com/
>His art
https://noahdoesart.newgrounds.com/art
Some of the strenghts in question:
>natural sense of space, shapes and form ingrained into him
>quick as fuck
>good lineart and detailing
>can put out 6 B&W drawings in a single day when he's in the mood
Some are things that kind of discourage me now as some of the stuff he's able to do is probably due to pure experience, but I'm aiming for pro art level as well in the future. Pic related the latest piece of art I did btw, will start Dynamic sketching tomorrow since a good nstural sense for space and forms is what I want to get ingrained into my skull.

What's my skill level?
(character is Grimm from Hollow Knight)

>>6535677
>STILL constantly comparing himself to others, undermining and underestimating the effort they put into things by saying it's "natural"
you truly are hopeless

>>6535294
id suggest making several thumbnails for compositions and values, make studies in greyscales first to nail down your light sources before comitting to color, get references I know the tim burton style is intentional but the anatomy could use more practice, the pose is extremely rigid, i dont know if the hand is missing because youre rendering on the go - if so this is a mistake make your foundations first. Foreshorten elements as well.

>>6535677
>furfaggot
the problem i feel is as another anon mentioned youre comparing yourself to another person who views the world differently from you, your drawings have to come from within not from aiming to copy someone elses style or end result.
Drawing is a method, use your inner eye to conjure a concept and your way of "feeling" things as you draw and explore will manifest, its practice it wont ever work without diligence. The person is quick to draw probably because they have done it over and over again, dont be too hard on yourself and for the love of god make a lot of anatomy studies no longer than 5 minutes each, you cant stylize or reduct from what is uknown.

>>6535810
who cares about your skill level, focus on what CAN be achieved not on what you have already achieved, the latter is a good way to sit on your laurels and risk not improving. I like your contrast but the background is hurting you, either show the background or dont show it at all, add a light source - im thinking a single spotlight which can let you completely darken the rest of the empty background while keeping some of your stylized hard edges shadows- otherwise if youre aiming for a moonlit scene think of a softer approach to shadows and light bounces. You also have to spend time on the composition, add depth, interesting angles and tell a story of what the subject is doing, it doesnt matter if the person doesnt know the character but you can describe the subjects personality and environment through this narrative.

decided to google a peter griffin from drive and haven't found one. feel it unfair, so made it

>>6536714
thanks for sharing anon

>>6536714
the care and detail of the padded pattern is fucking funny

There are so many things I need to work on Jesus.
But I'm not sure what I need to prioritize honestly.

>>6535294
you also need to vary your lines, again I know its probably intentional but it personally feels weird seeing everything in your piece have the same weight and thickness of line. Thicker or varying lines can be used to lead your eye into certain areas, also dont fucking add the tiny detail like the chain links, belt ornaments or any other detail at all until you have the information of the structure of the entire piece. Biggest mistake I notice on a lot of people and went through myself is artists just want to get ahead and overwork the tiny ass areas that dont matter to your composition, when you waste your focus and resources like that youre inviting burnout to yourself when you realize now you have to sustain the over-detailed look in the rest of the piece or youll hate it. Work on your pieces in passes: small thumbnail for composition, and planning background and foreground>block your structure and foundations>greyscale for locating light sources>color and ornamental details last

>>6536734
I get Miura and Casca vibes
Its a cool drawing, but anatomy wise the neck appears too short, the length of the arms look too short too, limb proportions are a bell curve but usually the standard is your hands reaching the middle of your upper thighs, the arms look like you referenced a mish mash of photos do you have a reference? the position of the arms suggest the hand and arm are way much further behind than the torso and is causing a disconnection with the girl, the other hand also looks mirrored and has the same issue. She can have a long torso and short legs but look for reference of women with this ratio, practice anatomy. One of the feet look copy pasted, you need to change the position and think on grounding and balancing the character dont take shortcuts make studies instead. At the moment the feet and heels are having a cool optical illusion like pic related but i dont think you intend it lol

>>6536756
>I get Miura and Casca vibes
That's actually great. Miura is one of my favorite artists. I hope that one day I might get close to his level. And Casca is pretty hot I won't lie.
I guess my limbs and proportions need more work, especially limbs(and hands). Hope anatomy by tomfoxdraws can help since I'm currently reading it.
>i dont think you intend it lol
Yea it's unintentional, haha.
Anyway, thanks for advice, anon.

>>6536782
np man top taste
judging from ref i can also suggest to practice with gesture drawing from it, she does a pretty long torso and short legs, but you can notice her hands still reach down to her mid-tigh area if she were to relax, the difference I see in your drawing its missing more of action of the raised shoulders
I didnt take much on this please take this image with a grain of salt. did a quick exercise in getting a feel of the flow in your reference, it doesnt replace a proper anatomy study you have to know the layers of the skeleton, muscles and fat and how they all add on top underneath the skin. but for exploratory purposes it helps me in trying to locate the downplanes, locate landmarks and to get a flow from them, your cross hatching may also benefit from it since it helps in economizing the amount of lines in order to enhance the sensation of volume and what directions of the lines to use, looking at your drawing and comparing I see your ribcage is situated differently when I trace over the reference

>>6536829
>>6536782
>jpg
my bad

>>6536829
>>6536830
I see, that's interesting, also thanks for the picture, I have some troubles with line directions yea. So basically I need more anatomy and some gesture. Gestures are honestly a big problem of mine, I just can't find a way of draw them that can click with me.
About the rib cage I decided to play with it a little, maybe it wasn't a great idea but it looks interesting( I think haha).

>>6536841
I was taught a good way to practice gesture is capturing a poses from lifedrawing each taking 30secs and moving into a next set of 90secs per pose. You dont need to add the full detail even making a simplified form like rough lines, sets of spheres and loose building blocks are enough, this gesture is not great but I was told I need to do the full body and get better at scaling in advance to avoid running out of space but you get the main idea. Your gesture can also look like the smaller image on the left, suggestive lines do the work pretty well. Keep in mind gestures dont need to look pretty they are for your own benefit for getting a feel or flow, look up into line of action to be able to communicate movement and grounding, also if its hard at a glance to see proportions take notice of negative space of your subject.

>>6536869
these are good gestures to aim for, look up John Singer Sargent

>>6536869
>>6536875
These ones still look pretty cool. I can only make a somewhat decent gesture if I take my time. At the very least 10 minutes.
Ehhh. Maybe I need to try a different approach.
>John Singer Sargent
Let's see what I can find, thanks!

>>6536888
>10 minutes
dont let yourself take that long, you will notice improvement in a short amount of time if you honor those sets of 30sec and 90 secs, if its incomplete by that time leave it incomplete and start a new set, godspeed anon

Aspiring trad chad here. I want to paint rather than draw, but I made myself sketch this one out first. I dunno, I’ve mostly only done landscapes before

>>6536932
Im a renderlet, but I enjoy the process Annie Stegg's uses of painting in monochrome first and then adding the colors after in passes, still you have to develop your constructional drawing skillset otherwise it will only limit you.

>>6533731
>>6535155
post in /cbsg/

Daddy OP back, this is the third batch

>>6525404
boring, ear sticks out
>>6525479
can't tell you anything about this other than it's bad because I don't do trad
>>6525682
you are giving me "not looking at any reference" vibes, like ribs and elbows, they clearly don't look like that, and you accentuating those parts doesn't help
>>6525688
I remember you being told that the horse head was too small
>>6525688
composition is off, too dark, i mised the horseman in the back because it's so dark
>>6526439
his right hand is missing, the entire drawing is tilted/slanted, mirroring would help you
>>6527092
cool actually, blog? (prompt?)
>>6527558
no cast shadows, the toilet doesn't look like it's on top of the floor, rip
>>6527798
you skipped out on the boots, rip, dont pussy out
>>6527820
what is this supposed to be? are they supposed to be standing in front of painting? Doesn't work, it just looks like a bad collage
>>6529190
then come back when you finish it
>>6529668
unintelligible
>>6529717
knees, boots, back. This is lacking in cohesion to an extreme degree, nothing is shaded in the same style
>>6529992
what's that flipper foot? Shading with black looks bad
>>6530018
I actually like this
>>6531038
cool but HOLY FUCK the pose?? also was your reasoning behind not shading the boots like you did the entire drawing?
>>6531066
2004 flash game style, based.
>>6531759
stay up late finishing it next
>>6532030
cool, very cool
>>6532031
this entire pose looks wrong and her calves are spilling out in a disgusting way but I'm not redlining this for you
>>6532033
cool but this would be way better with proper framing/composition
>>6532989
the ai remake of this said everything i wanted to
>>6533731
cool but it's as cool as snapping your fingers ergo it's too simple and quick for anything more than 1 dopamine molecule
>>6533834
anon arleady said that her arms breaks the whole pic so I have nothing to add
>>6534606
not op you moron

CONT >>6537349 CONT

>>6534610
You're posting this all over the place aren't you?
Well from the obvious stuff his right fist should be closer to his chest, try to do the same gesture and you'll see it's too awkward when you hold your arm to the side like him.
There's something seriously wrong with his face and hair, but I can't tell you what. If this were my drawing I would be pulling my hairs out
>>6535294
then come back when you're done
>>6535677
cool but the lines hurt my eyes, why couldn't you make the whole drawing like the face?
>>6535810
bad bg, the figure is decent, ruined by the terribad bg
>>6536714
based, perfect
>>6536734
the legs and feet are like Penrose stairs
The way you overdrew they pelvis and knes is terrible and unsexy. And it's especially bad because you used a reference that didn't have it. Looks like bridgman/hampton brainrot
>>6536932
it's kinda neat

>>6536888
Digging around online found this website, the gesture tips look very promising might be worth giving a try as well
>https://www.lovelifedrawing.com/gesture-series/

I already know I'm the greatest artist there ever was, I'm just parsing to see how many here are intelligent enough to recognize that.

>>6537669
Anon, I know shitposting here is cathartic and expected, but repeat the same smug bait enough you may accidentally start to believe it.
OP is a gigantic faggot there’s no space for more

>>6537707
That’s a real shame, I was hoping for more people to stroke my ego.

>>6537349
Hey, recommend some good books for me on anatomy and drawing backgrounds (not perspective), it’s the least you could do

finished this recently. I was too lazy to go in and finish the face properly.

>>6537349
I already know you're gonna still say it's unintelligible but there's been a few changes to the pic you saw there.

>>6538140
It's still fucking unintelligible

>>6538140
Unreadable. Couldnt even make out what character on right was

>>6538349
>>6538335
How did I know?

>>6538448
No one likes furfags anon you can’t blame them
It’s good you decided to make a greyscale out of your piece but I feel you have to retake some steps back, for your own self study purposes get rid of the flashy filler effects, think of it as a garnish and not the sole driver of movement, movement and rythm comes from gesture, review your silhouettes and use values to bring elements towards the foreground or background. Remake small thumbnails of your scene to try to find out what works and what doesn’t, it’s a mistake to finish rendering when the composition is not clear enough

>>6538455
Alright, fair advice. Especially about making thumbnails to see what works and what doesn't work. I'll try that with my next artworks.

I guess I'll also be fair to the anons here and admit that maybe I'm biased about the whole unreadability thing since I know what this pic is supposed to be but people looking at this can't.

>>6538485
Wow, impressive.

>>6538485
GEM

Charcoal self-portrait from a mirror. Still a lot to do.

I have barely drawn in like half a decade, trying to get back into it. Did a portrait of a friend loosely using a photo as reference. Would like to hear what I should focus on improving.

>uploading files is illegal in your range
Literally paying for other people's sins here. Fuck my life.

>>6543763
>And that’s a good thing!

>>6543763
Try changing the file name

Haven't drawn anything for 10 years.

>>6505380

>>6505380

can you please r8?