/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Is this better than "adding toilets to my bad art" ?

>>6513156
who cares

>>6513162
less talking, more cooking my butter chicken poojeet

>>6513156
i just make racist art so the lobotimized ai always ignores it.

>>6513170
modern problems require modern solutions

>>6513156
The more AI is talked about, the more Im convinced it ISN'T some demonic powerful helltech, just some soi code intended to put stupid demotivating beliefs in your head. Because if it was terrifying, no words would be necessary. Not form techbros, not from conspiracy theorists (paid shills).

AI will never get better art than it is now.
AI will never replace you.
AI is soidev code.

>>6513195
>AI will never replace you

depends on who. It won't replace pros for technical economic and incredibly boring legal reasons but I'd say anyone who's just out there chasing 40$ commissions is going to get fucked over pretty hard.

It wasn't a stable or profitable job but still, a ton of people lived off that shit. Check out anyone who doesn't have the guts to charge over a hundred and half of those who do, the AI is either already in their weight class or will be in a year or so.

>>6513195
Any artist that is afraid or calls AI out for being unethical or a threat is a fucking hack /beg/ looking for excuses on lack of discipline and practicing. Artists did not die out when photography came and this is no different.
>>6513218
>wasn't a stable or profitable job but still, a ton of people lived off that shit. Check out anyone who doesn't have the guts to charge over a hundred and half of those who do, the AI is either already in their weight class or will be in a year or so.
I disagree partly. Art can be a very stable a productive career that you can live off. Sure it's not a get rich quick scheme no matter how many people think it can be. AI won't hurt fine artists and most Trad artists. It will most definitely kill the lower end junior/entry level illustration, animation and creative grunt work for advertising and graphic design.
Sure one can argue that no one will miss these crappy jobs but on the flips these were points for junior newcomers to get a foot in the door and their name out to the world. Now things are going to get more specialized into a smaller and small pool of creative conglomeration.
I do feel that AI art isn't really mature as of yet to really disrupt but who knows. I mean now text is no longer a limitation if that says anything.

>>6513156
AI isn't a problem. Stop wasting your time fighting it.

>>6513239
>calls AI out for being unethical or a threat
I'll call out tracers despite not being afraid of them, and AI is no different.

>>6513239
>bro if you dont want your entire portfolio scraped and fed to the machine withour your consent or compensation that just means youre a /beg/

>>6513239
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I WANT AN ANIME WAIFU SO FUCKING BAD BROS

>>6513156
Where can I download or upload my files to test this, assuming it's been released?

>>6513268
This is literally from yesterday
>We are actively developing Windows and Mac versions of Glaze for use for members of the artist community. We also recognize that a significant portion of the artist community may lack access to these tools because of lack of awareness or computational resources. We are actively exploring approaches for more proactive art mimicry protection for groups of artists that do not require individual effort.

>>6513195
>AI will never replace you.
I’d argue AI might have already killed the sakimichan/artstation/generic animu market, I’ve seen a lot of usage of these as filler or placeholder art in various indie projects. Obviously those probably wouldn’t have funded art assets anyway, but I’m absolutely sick of seeing that type of imagery, so it might devalue them for the general population too.

>>6513333
meanwhile sakmini still raking in not a single dollar less than before the slopbot. the hubris of you smug street shitters never fails to entertain me, just making large blanket claims about the industry when you don't even draw and weren't involved whatsoever beforehand

>>6513336
she isnt number one artist anymore, she be slipping fr

>>6513239
Is this AI? It looks like garbage regardless

>>6513336
calm down, retard
sakimi never got the money she was getting on the art, but on the insane amount of voiced process videos and tutorials she produces
secondly, you are missing the point, even if development stops dead right now, it’s literally only a matter of time until an infinite amount of images it is currently capable of is produced
today you have 1 faux sakimi pic per 10 of her images, in n time, the ratio will flip, eventually you will see 100 faux sakimi pics per one real one
regardless of quality, fatigue will set in, thinking otherwise is pure cope

>>6513156
I tried to warn them OP
protections are growing by the day. This will not be a good year for pajeets!
https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity20/presentation/shan

>>6513357
Should be trivial to defeat. But, you're right, burden should be on artist to obfuscate work.

>>6513156
>>6513357
>muh cloak TM
so much misinformation and false hope, I love it.

>>6513363
>muh cloak tm retort again
You used this last time
zzzz...
youre getting sloppy street shitter

>>6513361
by the time anything gets "defeated" the ai models will already be disgorged. Then the cloaks will simply be updated and probably be integrated into art websites themselves

>>6513363
We found the pajeet faggot lmao

>>6513374
hey that's me, cool, try learning a little about signal processing and maybe you will have a better judgement for BS

>>6513381
1 rupee has been deposited into your bank account shill

>>6513374
>mfw These people are actual shills browsing this board day and night using the same lines over and over
Jfc

>>6513357
inb4 screeching that it’s not a big deal, just like with the hands. Imagine being “cucked“ with jpeg artifacts and you trick yourself into being okay with it.

>>6513383
no need for that sir, keep giving useful crits on /msg/ and /salt/ that would be sufficient.

>>6513385
It's might be the deranged schizophrenic who sockpuppets for both sides, which was often tracable through the identical imagehashes and phrasing he kept using. His shitposting was constant and most obvious around the time this tech gained the biggest traction.

>>6513393
I'm guilty of that. Based on the abject stupidity of the shill posts, I honestly hope that most supposed AIjeets on here are just posters engaging in parodic shitposting.

>>6513342
yes it is
>>6513266
Then don't pyw ever. Scraping is a double edge sword, without any your work would never get anywhere on the internet.

reminder that the people in here don't draw, continue

>>6513156
How do I use this before downloading

Explain to me why I shouldn't use this on every piece I plan to post.

>>6513507
If you plan to post art tomorrow you can't

>>6513507
>Explain to me why I shouldn't use this on every piece I plan to post.
Cuz it's a scam. I will easy to unfuck ( the artefacts in the image, not your master work, that's your problem to fix).

>>6513521
>I will easy to unfuck
Good morning sir

>>6513521
>scam
How

>>6513162
A lot of us do. I would say bugmen like you are actually part of the vocal minority. Fuck off.

I find it ironic that AI neural networks are being used to "cloak" art in attempts to defeat AI art.
This is a hilarious arms race, and pointless one considering how easy it is bypass watermarks in training data not to mention the sheer amount of data that's being trained.
I could see this being used to counter some attempts at hyper fine tuning but again mind you you are using compute to obfuscate your work, at worst the AI scrapers simply need to out compute once again engaging in that arms race to the point where becomes prohibitively expensive to "cloak" and "de cloak" your work.
Also my final jab at artists, no matter how much you cry, bitch and moan you cannot copyright styles as much as you would love that.

>>6513266
Right? I totally understand why good illustrators don't want to have their work used for free to train algorithms for profit made by greedy megacorporations.
I'm one of them. I would rather fade into obscurity. I didn't start drawing back in the 90's to have my work be exploited by a bunch of technerds with no sense of morals.

>>6513562
We just want our work to be left alone. To have rights to our own work. To not be exploited by bugmen. It's not unreasonable nor to much to ask for.

>>6513562
They aren't looking to copyright styles, you disingenuous cunt. Rather, as you well know, they simply don't want to provide free work to a megacorporation to build its product. Because as much as you AI shills try to deflect, the fact remains that all your models are useless unless they are fed millions of images that were created by artists and photographers. You need art? Fine. Put out a request for art donations, or offer money for it and see what you get. Otherwise, fuck off.
Emad and friends knew they were in the wrong when they used images that didn't belong to them, without consent or permission, to build a product they will sell for millions or billions of dollars. They also knew the maxim, "It is easier to ask for forgiveness than permission." They calculated that whatever penalty, if any, they end up paying will still leave them with a tidy profit. They are total sociopathic, WEF scum and you are on their side.

>>6513562
>"copyright styles"
this is not the issue, it was never the issue
>allowing a machine to obfuscate it's obvious copy pasting of someone's copyrighted work by copy pasting a million times at once.
this is the issue, and you gaslight in every single AI thread to obscure this point. Because it's true and it's literally all the AI is capable of. You have no womb, and your machine is incapable of creation, incapable of even deviating it from the poisoned inputs you give it. You need to touch grass sweetie. And maybe then kill yourself. I'm ready for you to rewrite what you've written in the dozens of threads you've been in before you sad loser.

>4 months later
still seething and baiting eash other I see, good 'ol /ic/
lmao

>>6513580
>>6513572
>AI IS COPYING MY STYLES!
>NOOOO ITS NOT ABOUT STYLES ITS COPYING MY ENTIRE WORK!
Alright this is entering full clown world territory. Now the next point will be that any reference or inspiration is theft.
Also just a reminder the training data and base was provided by LAION (a google founded org) and openAI an Elon musk founded organization now owned by Microsoft. Emad just made a model from that research and DALLE 2 is still a thing.

>>6513566
No one's touching your work. No AI has the capability to copy 1:1 work in a literal manner and if it did like some kinda image search, scrapw and photobash it wouldn't be AI then.

>>6513410
Is this edited AI or did the new models finally learn how to write and not fuck up the badge details?

>>6513640
It can copy my artstyle and create pictures that 99% of people would assume I did (only if they do not notice the fucked up hands and molten details). Human cannot copy style this well and completely replace your artwork, and if they did, they are still just a mere mortal that can draw only so much. It’s like comparing people rewriting books and copying machine. Copyright was created at that time to protect people from automated copying, because humans trying to copy something by hand are not really a realistic threat. Copyright is not arbitrary law made to restrict people from using others ideas, it was made and adopted to protect the author of the idea and their potential financial gains. Me making fanart of videogame character does not bring the sales of that video game down by me competing with the authors. AI so far does not really compete with real artists, but stealing their commissions can do that.

>>6513672
kek mental gymnastic troon

>>6513684
If you in any way think programs designed to mass-produce knockoffs of specific artists' works is in any way comparable to humans learning somebody else's art style or producing random fanart, you're a retarded nigger.

>>6513687
kek instead of coping and crying go practice, improve your shitty art

>>6513521
please do the needful

they can start with looking who autor thmeself is "mimicing"

Good.

>>6513363
the tech is in its infancy. It will only get better:)

This is stupid, almost as stupid as a cartoon.

>>6513784

>>6513156
It's not useless I guess but trivial to go around, off the top of the dome piece you could just hire an artist to draw in the style of someone else and then train an AI on that.

Who don't scrapefags just pay artists? I bet most of them would allow it for just a couple of rupees.
Why do corpos always need to be cartoonishly greedy?

>>6513853
Quite literally the stupidest AI related post I've ever seen on this board, congratulations anon.

>>6513640

>>6513862
Hmm, why?

>>6513872

https://research.runwayml.com/gen1
EVERY NEW STEP TOWARDS THE SINGULARITY
I CAN FEEL THE UBI POD
I CAN TASTE THE BUGS
I WILL ENJOY THE SLOP

>>6513156
Neat, the same reasearchers also made a tool to prevent facial recognition traning.
https://sandlab.cs.uchicago.edu/fawkes/

>>6513926
YOU VILL enjoy your AI generated capeshit goyslop, goyim

>>6513926
Horrifying.

>>6513926
>posting research papers in 2023
Sadly nowadays research papers are relegated to be bait for investors, posting good papers with actual research is shunned unless you crap out a mile of shit papers to inflate your numbers.
Also Google ML division is a fucking joke, they can't even release they LLM because they know it fucking sucks.

Time is ticking.

>>6513160
Good morning sir. Toilets are needful yes

>>6514015
All i see is this being the death of generic anime shit. Even souless coom artist from shitty gacha games use ai like >>6513239. Styles that stand out will be the future.

>>6514015
He uploaded the AI art as a thumbnail and even then you can still see the melting features.
>>6514020
>All i see is this being the death of generic anime shit.
All his AI + Paintover shit looks miles worse than his normal art.

>>6514026
> All his AI + Paintover shit looks miles worse than his normal art.
I noticed, but coomers don’t care. All they want to see is anime boobs and thighs, unfortunately. He gotten 20k+ likes with that post last i saw it.

>>6513639
>>6513640
Thank you sir very nice posts sir please do the needful sir

>>6514015
Soul vs soulless

>>6514020
Styles that stand out will be the easiest thing to AI.

>>6514039
It’s the opposite

>>6514031
>He gotten 20k+ likes with that post last i saw it.
Twitter algorithm pushes tweets about AI, with 2 million views he got 60k likes.
Most artists with a comparable userbase get that amount of likes with a 1/4 of the views.

>>6514046
True, though it still shows the large support he has gotten with the post. Constant 30-50k with each ai art post. He even gotten almost 200k likes on his first ai art post, if i remember correctly.

>>6513239
> Any artist that is afraid or calls AI out for being unethical or a threat is a fucking hack /beg/ looking for excuses
>despite most artist at this level or better calls it out

>>6513684
Haha. As if that's not your favorite forte. That's all you guys do when faced with facts. You resort to ad hominems and projections. Bunch of disingenuos nerds.

>>6513156
Can I use it yet?

>>6513696
Kek you're not even on the level of a beg. You're not our peer. You're a cancerous virus on this board. The lowest of the lows. You're not even welcome here.
The vocal minority coming in here and shitting up everything with your poop opinions.

>>6513872
Training isn't copying, there's no rasterized image data in the parameters of an AI model. It's one of many reasons any lawsuit will be dead before it hits a court. Also we don't live in a vacuum.

>>6513696
Improve? How could that help when AI can copy masters easier then /beg/s?

>>6514150
>The AIfag can only exist by denying reality and gaslighting
sirs sirs the designated shitting street is blocked I cannot get internet connection to shitpost from non designated shitting streets

>>6514160
You need to get out of ground hog day mode. srsly. Think of a new joke.

>>6514152
How is this an argument?

>>6514150
You're arguing that saving a png as a jpeg is not copying. Because the data is different and there's no way to get the png from the jpeg.

>>6514150
tell it to the judge faggot

>>6514049
You can get that many likes and more just by posting dog pictures so that isn't saying much.

>>6513156
>anti ai filters
Based, I foresaw this happening ages ago and it will only get better as time passes. The nodraws will continue to not draw and jeck off over there prompts and the people who appreciate the craft will have there art protected and soon entire sites will have implements to anti ai capabilities. Everyone wins.

>>6514175
joke?

well my fellow brushmonkeys, I finally did it.
I tried out making AI art.

And I gotta admit, I'm a pretty big fan!

>>6514278
No there's litterally no image data in the weights/parameters or model. You can't reverse engineer or excratact images the AI has trained on becuase
>>6514294
Yes the judge will throw it out for that very simple reason (it doesn't copy anything). Also lets say it did use derivative work (i.e photobashing) that would still fall under fair use.
>>6514160
You can scream, cry and seeth and all you want it's not going to change the state of things to come. And if you think it's bad now hohoh oh man. The commission gravey train is already leaving the yard.
I personally think /ic/ is just super nova levels of asshurt because /g/ of all the places on 4chan has now surpassed /ic/ in terms of actual art produced.
That and the fact some random kid can generate work in seconds makes some artists absolutely lose their shit, and quite frankly it's kinda hilarious.

>>6514521
>levels of asshurt
Banning jannies can't fix it for them.

>>6513239
Yeah right pahjeet. That’s why artists like Dave Rapoza and Steven Zapata have called out AI

>>6513381
The reason so few writers have calle dit out yet is that there are no large scale stories being written. Listen to >>6513167

>>6513562
If you had any idea how the tech worked, you wouldn’t call it watermarks, bugman

>>6514521
>The commission gravey train is already leaving the yard.
Are you even white?

>>6514521
You have no clue what you’re talking about, and it shows. I’m glad I’ll never be a bugman like you. How must it feel not to care about anything deeply?

>>6513218
I used to pay $50/commission for a few pieces I desperately needed a couple days ago. artists are the most arrogant, egotistical faggots I've ever worked with. never again, I'm so thankful for stable diffusion.

>>6514564
years*

>>6514521
>you can't reverse engineer or excratact images the AI has trained on
they already have.
And for the rest of your post, Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus
you pajeets GOTTA come up with better responses other than "its just not ok!" for proof of your claims

I need the bow and hands fixed, brushmonkeys.

Should we start the bidding at $5?

>>6514585
I'd probably do it for $4, I guess

>>6514540
dude harry potter fanbase have made tons of AI generated stories in the past like in the 2016, theres other communities that are known for this kind of stuff.
>using butter chicken as insult
kek keep eating plastic cheese with crushed crickets m8

>>6514559
Do you? VAE is not part of the image generating process, it's a post process effect. Also it doesn't actually "copy" anything. It's primarily used to smooth out artifacts and adress some limitations when dealing with tubed models (i.e anime eyes). So in effect you can say it's "copying" eyes if you want to stretch it that far.
Keep seething

>>6514559
Retard

>>6513239
>when even coom artist calls out retards like you
Oh no no no

>>6514872
No self-awareness

>LOL we fucked u artists with our computers111!1!! Now who's an artist LMAO!!!!!!
>Fast forward twenty years, humanity gets completely cucked by itself and spend all their fucking lived pressing buttons and being pushed around in their life decisions by algorithms, while your son learns about transexuality in schools, and after that he goes to the 8 years old shrink, that has an office decorated with works of automatically generated pictures
Wow guys such a great victory. And while you binarytards play at fucking your own culture in the ass, you got Muslims, russians, pajeets, bugmen and fucking Africans that can't wait to feast on your corpse and on the other a orbit escape rise in rightwing extremists
Such a big victory. Wow. Congrats
Btw people are not going to stop drawing anyway, you know

>>6513239
There are a lot of artists that hate AI and are better than this korean hack. kys pajeet

>>6513239

>>6514521
>No there's litterally no image data in the weights/parameters or model
Both images and weights are represented as sequences of 1s and 0s. The 1s and 0s in a JPEG image represent the intensity values of individual pixels, while the 1s and 0s in a weight matrix represent the parameters of a mathematical model.
During the training process, the model learns the weights that best capture the relationships between the input data (i.e., the images) and the desired output. This means that the weights encode information about the image data that was used to train the model.
The model can then use the learned weights to recreate the training data, or similar data, with a high degree of accuracy. This suggests that the weights are capturing the essential features of the image data and allowing the model to generalize to new, unseen data.
While the weights in a machine learning model are not literally stored as images, they are still encoding information about the image data that was used to train the model. This information can be used to recreate the training data, or similar data, with a high degree of accuracy, making the weights a form of image data in their own right.

>>6514015
It is interesting that even after 6 months there are still active draw threads on all the major boards. With people ask for and doing requests. Like wise even /g/ still has a majority of it's non photographic images being used outside of /sdg/ still being Majority non AI art. The technology literally exists, why are the image boards still dominated by traditional art? Same goes for the rest of the internet, AI art seems to be segregated to it's own closed of community. I mean it is spreading but very slowly. Compare this to AI voice, that shit spread like wild fire and it wasn't even perfect, it took the news brow beating elevenlabs to put heavy restrictions for the hype to be stopped.

>>6513239
>that image
LOL They both got baby arms.

>>6514630
Bro, you’re talking out of your ass. VAEs are used to put encode images into latent space, retard. "It’s a post process effect" — are you actually brain dead?

>>6515112
cause it can't do hands and it can't do dynamic poses, etc etc
it's easy to get anything pretty enough out of ai, but devilishly hard to get something you actually want or need
until it can overcome, at least temporal coherence, it will remain a niche onto its own, much like the use of 3D models as art themselves, which is rare outside of their context in video games... the biggest use DAZ models have gotten are those terrible porn games that sell so well

>>6515216
>Daz3D
kek, I kinda miss the old toon porn forum days where there'd be a handful of autismos posting their horrific Daz3D-produced incest pictorials.

oh this is actually really cool. i dont mind ai generators existing somewhere cause my interests are pretty niche. i just dislike how they think its okay to steal images without consent. i will use this when i can.

>>6515216
>>6513371
>it will remain a niche onto its own
The problem is that Google has just now decided to place anything AI in its' results on par with everything else.
https://twitter.com/JonLamArt/status/1624226377959604225
Seeing as how parasites and bots will use AI to create a flood of derivative Google SEO Optimized™ articles/news/tutorials/images/etc. for clicks, this will likely cause an inbred feedback loop where the AI output will be fed on an increasing proportion of AI input.
Likewise, people are also complaining that Pinterest (one of the largest model training sources) is showing an increasing amount of AI images.

>and probably be integrated into art websites themselves
The authors themselves said as much. The first big image/stock photo/artwork hosts and forums to implement this cloaking tech en masse could gradually make an impact - AI stuff is gradually seeping outside of its' niche, but cloaked images would then start to seep out as well. If enough people choose to cloak the artwork and reaction images they use in online discussions as well, that might gradually poison a lot of input from the bottom-up.

Still, it would be an arms race between the sheer volume of fakery and everything else - cloaked or not. What happens when this shit >>6513926 outnumbers everything else on the internet? Where will people direct their eyeballs (and scrapers) to instead? Back to smaller communities?

>>6513218
Same. I used to pay artists but nowdays not a single cent. It's time to flip burgers.

>>6514686
Seethe bugman

>>6515130
VAEs are an optional "style" enhancer for a lack of a better word. They aren't stocked with with actual images unless youn consider elements like clarity and filters as one. The best example mentioned before is fixing eyes and minute imperfections post gen.
Also I'm 90% that you have no idea what a VAE is used for nor ever used one/ran any AI image generator locally since your tech illiteracy is showing.
Seeth more

>This entire thread
Fighting AI is a waste of energy. Clearly /ic/ has been threatened before with the mass pf digital slop art flooding out everything before AI. AI is just the straw that broke the camels back.

>>6515562
you are wasting your energy telling people to not fight back, especially when their likeness is at stake such as voices and faces. you street shittiers should buckle up because it won't be as easy as you're begging it to be. You're pissing off an ever increasing amount of people with this shit, and you resort to comically chimp behavior like mocking people with the identities you've stolen. Ultimately no one will win because you've basically ruined the internet, but you will get the blame for it
>https://twitter.com/blumspew/status/1624209407071625216

>>6515570
I like Steve Blum, but end of the day if someone synthesis a voice that sounds like his what can you do? It's the way of the future.

>>6515574
>what can you do
prison, execution, for the creators of the identity theft software as well

>>6515570
>muh stolen identity.
I just can't wait until fully synthesisized voice work is used in production and voice actors now out of a job still seething. Creative act like there is no disruption to art which is complete bullshit.
Oftopic
The internet has been slowly getting ruined and AI has nothing, something like 80% of the clear web is now controlled by Meta, AWS, Alphabet and indirectly oracel. What people don't know is just how horribly fragmented things and complete lack of give of fuck when you realized how horribly insecure and vulnerable the current internet as a whole is. AI powered Malicious breaches, and malware, DNS spoofing are going to make this even worse to point of possible near collapse. It's just like in Cyberpunk only in reality the protections we have right now is akin to a plastic trash bag duct taped to a broken car windshield.

>>6515577
It's not illegal though, and even if it were it'll probably be just a fine, megacorps will just pay and do whatever the fuck they want.

>>6515592
>AI powered ultra computer virus completely shits up the current internet to the point its unusable and has to be built back up from the ground
Honestly a pretty fitting end

>>6515633
We could honestly see real starvation and near socialtal collapse if that were to happen. If not that we would see real degradation in the average quality of life of the 1st world.
It probably would be as bad if our entire production, economic and supply line wasn't directly tied to the internet. Once again stating how vulnerable we are.

>>6514521
>Yes the judge will throw it out
A firm that won $4.5B in setilmints over ten years does not waste time like that.

>>6515633
my dick can only get so hard
>early 2000's internet
pls...

>i-i-its just a tool
>it wont be able to expressions

>>6516536
That's one expression. Pic related has a range of facial expressions done well.

>>6515813
Good, but the Getty Images lawsuit is the one to really watch. Getty has deep pockets.

>>6516545
Anime doesn’t need expression, so it’s fine.

>>6516536
no matter how many nutrients you put into it, dog food will always be dog food.

it's ok that you want to convince everyone that it's great and good for you and better than real food, it's just that it's pretty disgusting.

I lol at people who have obviously only seen 4chan/twitter output. Like the idea that this can "only do anime waifus" is so fucking funny to read.
Leave your bubble my friend. Also maybe even try it out.

>>6516593
I've tried it out, and yeah it's capable of more than waifus. The early days were better when it was mostly weirdos with esoteric tastes trying it out. Now galleries are oversaturated with garbage, and I find the more polished models have less ... dare I say it ... soul? Everything just gets worse.
Anyway, I'm back to drawing.

>>6516551
Geety Mages. Ha.

>>6513374
It's afraid

>>6514020
AI can and will make everything "generic". Cope

>>6514521
Post hand, rakesh

>>6514039
>>6516684
That's the cope. Individualistic styles are by definition associated with individuals. Even if AI could replicate, say, Robert Crumb's style, it's not like collectors will start paying thousands for AI generated Crumb. But nothing differentiates Anime waifu #9577457999.

The funniest thing is seeing all these anime porn artists coming out to talk about meaning and beauty, what do they think they're making?

>>6513170
big brain. :DDD

>>6514015
Not actually true. AI art a year ago is pic rel (first release of Dalle2, shown publicly in April 2022, 10 months ago)

>>6516872
Dall-E is even older than that.
https://openai.com/blog/dall-e/
It became widespread because AI is the latest buzzword in corporate shilling.

>>6516721
Doesn't matter. They will flood all the platforms. Your style, something you have spent a lifetime building, will be rendered obsolete

>>6516875
Boy can you even get your facts straight?
DALLE != DALLE-2
DALLE is such a prototype that it can't even do faces. DALLE-2 was released in June 2022.
SD was released in Aug 2022, and that's when the innovation really started. But at that point, it was still very hard to get an aesthetically pleasing face out of it.
NovelAI in October 2022. That's when consistent human characters was finally solved.
Now look at the average output quality (I literally generated it 1 minute ago, not cherrypicked)

>>6516906
Why everytime I see AI art it's always overpolished (and often with photo realistic lighting)? Is it capable of things more "spontaneous" with imperfect strokes and such?

>>6516915
Yes

>>6516921
It's still the same? It just looks like someone applied a weird paint filter

>>6516906
Wow it looks exactly like every single AI generated image out, How fucking novel and exciting.

Maybe you should generate a thousand more, and flood the site, they clearly dont grasp the immense value of AI art yet.

>>6516906
>Boy can you even get your facts straight?
>DALLE != DALLE-2
Yes, and?
Your argument was that it could only make messy stuff, which isn't true and that would be true even for GAN models.
>SD was released in Aug 2022, and that's when the innovation really started. But at that point, it was still very hard to get an aesthetically pleasing face out of it.
>NovelAI in October 2022. That's when consistent human characters was finally solved.
>Now look at the average output quality (I literally generated it 1 minute ago, not cherrypicked)
Shit looks exactly the same, it's still extremely limited in scope.
And if it wasn't true you wouldn't shit up the board daily like you do already.

>>6516889
Like flooding America with McDonald's rendered steaks obsolete.
Nice try faggot.

>>6516939
in the end I guess it's a tech issue.

image generation is simply fucking pointless as it creates nothing, as input you need to put several images of the artists you want to copy otherwise the thing won't work, as an output you get a copy of the works it's trained on....

so... what the fuck this brings to the table?

>>6516906
>DALLE-2 was released in June 2022
1000s of people were given early access in april.

>>6516950
>so... what the fuck this brings to the table?
Nothing for people who can actually draw.
Even the anime were they used AI background (which was conveniently forgotten already) had a process that was definitely slower than the traditional one.

>>6516953
you know how I would use Ai here?

color picking the colors it generated to paint and color the hand drawn layout while leaving the lines.

it boggles my mind why they didn't do that instead, it would have been 100% hand drawn and it would have looked a million times better.

>>6516906
>and that's when the innovation really started
innovation huh
Funny how innovation started at the same time they used other peoples work.

>>6516921
The vaseline filter, lmao.

>>6516960
>it will get better

better at copying the shit that already exists, the better it gets the closer it is to the works its copying from.

>>6516953
I think step 3 is labeled wrong. That is a paint over to help out the AI, making it closer to the layout after AI fucked it up. AI wouldn't draw layout train tracks with a hardround brush.

>>6516981
The schizophrenic brushstrokes look terrible.

they should have simply overlaid top left lines with bottom left colors and call it a day.

>>6516923
>>6516965
It's meant to look like an oil painting, here's a different example

>>6516915
It doesn't do spontaneous. On a purely philosophical level I find it interesting how it efficiently mimics photoshop art but fails at emulating anything spontaneous, like sketchbook exploration (that KJG model was an epic fail).
It seems to be simply a style recycler. It lacks the spark.

>>6516915
of course, you are just mostly seeing the very bland tastes of anons who exclusively generate anime waifus

>>6516966
Yeah all the people saying how its gotten so amazing after a year dont realise all that has happened is that the amount of data it can steal from has grown and so can be more "accurate". It still is fundamentally flawed and has no intentionality and doesn't think like a human, everything it does well is an accident with 50 other nonsensical attempts preceeding it. Its never gonna be able to be consistent with design elements or even be a useful tool in its current state if you're concerned with not stealing wholesale. And if it fixes those problems then it's no longer a tool its fundamentally intelligent and so we're all fucked. So its not happening.

>>6516999
Kim has been gone for 133 days. When will it stop hurting?

Test

>>6516999
>It doesn't do spontaneous
>It lacks the spark
Yeah, machine learning is a scientific dead end which can't teach us anything new about how a human actually thinks and creates - but can it instead teach us what to avoid, or help define what makes us special, i.e. through negation? GPT's mostly bland, shallow output is such an example when contrasted with human writing. The worst case scenario is if such output is used an educational example or crutch en masse, rather than an occasional tool to minimize pointless effort and comparatively appreciate humanity.

But what if a human realizes he has a similar problem as the machine? As the tech progressed over the years, I felt depressed by how much the lack of spontaneity reminded me of my own, like I'm actually a robot. I'd either buried what little spontaneous imagination I had, or never bothered to grow it to begin with. Perfectionism and procrastination play a large role, as when trying something like sketchbook exploration I either just seize up, or get distracted in order to avoid it. Doing a soulless boring study is instead much easier. Or if I try to write something spontaneous and poetic, that initial moist spark is quickly buried and I get tangled chasing dry wordplay instead.

Has anyone else dealt with this? I have technical skill, but i'd like to discover my actual creative voice before artificial shit demoralizingly floods the world - or worse, I'm tempted to rely on ML tech. Consistently drawing would obviously help with loosening up, as would using art to confidently and purposefully relate to the outer world and to others (which I largely avoid). Robert Crumb had a similar issue until he did LSD (which I'm definitely not trying), which caused his imagination to erupt and basically redeem him. For me, stuff like "active imagination" helps, but that softens up my conscious rationality to an extent that it scares me of becoming an isolated mystic absorbed by his own imagination.

>>6516996
Same shit, look at the shading lol it's too clean. Do you have another exemple that works?

>>6516996
It's not AI, nice try.

you vill eat ze bugs
you vill consume the AI content
you vill live in ze pod
und you vill be happy

>>6515112
it's almost like people who like drawing will always keep drawing and no meme ai will stop them.

paintpigs on the other hand...

>>6513156
AI is the future, resistance is futile

>>6516915
It has to do with how the AI model is set to interpret the prompt. Its often too high becuase people want to get very literal interpretations which often leads to a overbaked look and on the extreme end leads to artifcats.

>>6516536
>those hands
skill issue

>>6516915
because all newbies uses AOE2 for their anime waifus

>>6517089
bro here eyes arent even the same what are you smoking

>>6517058
It's just meant to show you that it's capable of generating a variety of different looks, not any particular type of shading.
>>6517061
It is, except for the text ofcourse.

>>6517041
AI has made me similarly reflective. I already found the prevailing artstation/generic anime aesthetic sterile, so cut ties with it long ago. AI has solidified that decision.
On a deeper level, AI has made me realize the importance of content and storytelling. It's something we intuitively know, but often lose sight of in the pursuit of technical skill and aesthetic appeal.
Occasionally someone will post badly drawn webcomics or art that still connects with a large audience and questions the necessity of learning fundies. The answer is that the art in question grasped at least one fundamental: the importance of content and/or storytelling.
>Has anyone else dealt with this? I have technical skill, but i'd like to discover my actual creative voice
It comes down to having something to say, and I do believe most humans have something to say. I don't think it has to be anything profound. Kim Jung Gi's art wasn't especially deep, but it was captivating in that it captured his passion for drawing and curiosity of the world around him.
>as would using art to confidently and purposefully relate to the outer world and to others
And to reflect your experience. This is key, and what the AI can never take away. It's why GPT will never write like Faulkner or Dostoyevsky. How could it? Both had ever evolving work that reflected their idiosyncratic world views. The best art is always born from life.

both drawing and diffusing are use for the same thing: bringing your ideas to life. the process is obviously very different, as is the skillset, but the final result is the same

the main issue here (regardless of paintpigs losing their jobs) is whether AI-generated goyslop is art or not. both proompters and artists creativity comes from their head (i'm not talking about randly generating stuff, i'm talking about realizing an idea in you head). so technically speaking, with enough patience, anything that can be drawn can also be proompted, and also the opposite. this begs the question: if the 2 final results are indistinguishable, can you really argue that one is art or not? if we consider that the artistic value of a something lies within it (and not within the author's reputation) then this distinction simply can't be made.

nobody complains that digital painters aren't artists, even if they can't draw anything with a real brush and paint, so in the future the same kind of "acceptance" will happen with proompters. different processes and skillsets, same results.

flooding the market with ai-generated scat furry porn is only a good thing in the long run, since creativity will get rewarded even more than before, which is a good thing for real "art" enjoyers

>>6513156
Have they released it yet? Why are they waiting so much to release it?

Such "protections", very funny.
Disney and whoever else will follow these protections by making artists agree that Disney owns their creative works -- oh they already do this?
Next, they are able to create in-house models and have no further need of the artist. Such positions will be contract work, 6 months and then bye, good luck, thanks for the training!

But instead of concern about that, you lash out at usage by individuals. Which is unstoppable anyhow, but ultimately harmless.

>>6517126
I'd rather have Disney win than have some indian scammer make money out of my work. May stability AI lose the lawsuit.

>>6517079
>it's almost like people who like drawing will always keep drawing
Creative people intuitively know drawing is the lingua franca of the visual arts. In art school artfags that hang installations in galleries are still expected to take drawing fundamentals. It's the quickest way to communicate ideas.
AIfags know this too. They know a skilled drawer has more creative power than some monkey typing prompts into a machine. It's why they troll this place like a motherfucker.

>>6517133
>May stability AI lose the lawsuit.
And this will delete stable diffusion from that scammer's computer?

>>6517138
Nah, but that will prevent him from using it legitimately, and he will have to settle for small images with deformed hands since there will be no further development.

>>6517137
>It's the quickest way to communicate ideas.
it's even quickier if you can do a sketch, add an ai pass and then fix hansd manually. scene composition will always be a valuable skill

>>6517079
I think there is also a deep rejection of AI art at a conceptual level.

people like skilled art because it can inspire them, to learn how it was done, to observe the details, to wander, to realize that if an artist can do it they can also do it.

AI art is simply taking the done product and remixing it, there is fuck all to wonder and admire.

>>6517145
This, even china don’t want anything to do with it and banned it already. Only retarded turd worlders and hacks like jt

>>6517109
Your brainstem's missing.

>>6517150
>I think there is also a deep rejection of AI art at a conceptual level.
this is mostly because of ignorance. 99% ITT haven't even tried proompting, besides maybe the dalle mini shit. it's not even an AI, it doesn't do shit on it's own
>>6517150
>AI art is simply taking the done product and remixing it
it's literally exactly the same with human artists. the only people who "created" new artstyle were those who kept throwing random shit on the wall and noticed what sticks and what not. again, same thing with diffusions
>>6517159
>no arguments
not like i expected one from a liberal arts boar poster, but still

>>6517162
Your brainstem's still missing though, buggo.

>>6517162
You're correct but this board is filled with artfags which are low IQ by default so there is no point arguing with them. AI and humans produce art the exact same way - by copying and mixing what they see.

>>6517167
still 0 arguments

>>6517109
>both drawing and diffusing are use for the same thing
nah, bullshit. One is the product of the human hand and the other is not.
>whether AI-generated goyslop is art or not.
I don't care if people call it art. Art is a nebulous concept and a lot of shit is called art. I would argue it's not good art.
>nobody complains that digital painters aren't artists
Well let me be the first.
They can call themselves artists, but digital 'paint' isn't the same as actual paint. The market also says so. Collectors spend thousands for actual paintings which are long term investments, while 'digital paintings' (NFTs) were a short term fad that parted fools with their money.

>>6517172
>reeeee digest my schizo rambling

>>6517174
>actual paintings which are long term investments
You know paintings are literally just a way to avoid taxes, right?

>>6517174
>One is the product of the human hand
no. if you draw in photoshop then it's the computer that produces your art, if you draw by hand then it's a brush+paint. literally the same thing
>it's not good art.
same can be said about any art, so not really an argument. you can think whatever you want, be we are talking about the public perception of ai art, not yours
>Collectors spend thousands for actual paintings which are long term investments
so not because they're art but because speculation and money. some retard bought nfts of digital paintings for 1m+, again, not an argument

>>6517175
>-1 arguments

>>6517108
>On a deeper level, AI has made me realize the importance of content and storytelling. It's something we intuitively know, but often lose sight of in the pursuit of technical skill and aesthetic appeal.
Narratives are also fundamentally built into our whole cognition. When we relate to any art piece, we compose our own micro-narratives to do so, often unconsciously - the same process we use for internal monologues to explore and affirm who we are, or to convince anyone of something we believe in. The interesting question is which overarching macro-narratives truly matter to us personally and why, and which historically recurring narratives are the 'deepest' of all.
>Occasionally someone will post badly drawn webcomics or art that still connects with a large audience and questions the necessity of learning fundies. The answer is that the art in question grasped at least one fundamental: the importance of content and/or storytelling.
Yes! Thankfully that stuff inspires me as something to look up to, rather than be resentful about any of its' technical aspects or lack thereof. Relatability is that huge void I have to bridge, and that comes through personal honesty - of all my weirdest and potentially redemptive idiosyncracies.

>Kim Jung Gi's art wasn't especially deep, but it was captivating in that it captured his passion for drawing and curiosity of the world around him.
Exactly! Looking at random /ic/ artwork on Drawpile is also sheer joy, it captures that sublime principle of pure play, exploration, and internal logic - especially when it's collaborative and technically well-done.

>The best art is always born from life.
Which can also be threatened by art which is consumed in an excessively vicarious or escapist manner. It's impossible circumvent actually living life - if no outer adventure happens to you, no inner adventure will either.

>>6517178
So if I shoot someone in a video game I also shoot them IRL?
Solid argument.

It'll be yet another arms race in the end, just like game piracy
People were pirating games so DRMs were created, then the DRMs got cracked, so even more complex DRMs got created like Denuvo that actually hurt the product, and yet it still gets cracked
I'm willing to bet this'll be a similar story, endless cycle of new protection, period of safety, and then the protection being broken, and then again and again

>>6517184
bad metaphore. if you kill somebody with you hand or with your pistol, you still killed him. the gun alone can't kill anyone

>>6513156
Release it already for fucks sake

>>6517185
It won't be needed.

image generation AI is walking towards to be seen as a low form of consumption, held in contempt to both professionals and costumers alike.

>>6517187
nobody will copy your "original" anime style sweetie

>>6517189
this is very funny, thank you

>>6517189
nobody will able to diffentiate the 2 things
>inb4 m-m-muh hands!
2023 is gonna be a wild ride, i suggest you guy to earn something by fixing ai-generated hands, because soon you won't have even that opportunity

>>6517194
Are you posting shitty looking backgrounds on purpose? Is it some sort of reverse reverse psychology?

can’t wait until “ai” is castrated and these shills have to go back to doing tech support in bangladesh

>>6517195
just trying to give you some inspiration. you could try copying this style, maybe you'll learn something ;^)
>>6517196
everybody is running it locally, forget about that

>>6517189
Absolutely uninformed take, it's already being used by corporations (full of professionals) such as netflix, and """costumers""" also enjoy it, if you take 10 seconds to browse through pixiv image statistics and/or twitter

>>6517186
If I start a new world in minecraft by pressing generate world, am I the creator of said world?
Your whole argument is literally 'X is actually Y' complete nonsense, I can't wrap my head around how daft you ai chuds are to just keep repeating the same void arguments ad nauseum.
Generating a random output loosely based on vague word descriptors does not equal creating something. Asking google to generate a random string of number does not make me a creator of a random string generator.
If digital painting and an ai producing soulless schlop in your head are the same since both are just digital 1s and 0s, does that then make everything made using a computer the same exact thing? Like sorry mate your brainstem is unironically lost for good.
Ze bug iz achually ze wagyu steak ze steak teste so gud, mm this mud water I mean red wine, exquisite.

>>6517200
>running locally
the funny thing is that you might actually think that current capabilities of “ai” are in any way a threat to artists lmao
nobody cares about the garbage it can churn out now

>>6517170
It's so easy to tell the tourists when you say this because you have obviously never studied drawing to even be able to say this. If you can break things down intelligently like a human can into their constituent parts, you do not copy references ever, AI can ONLY copy. You think everyone is like those reddit artists that do "photorealistic" pencil drawings of morgan freeman. Leave this board please and stop shitting up internet with your bait.

>>6517200
Here's something similar

>>6517162
>99% ITT haven't even tried proompting
I have (my Tony Soprano angry over a plate of ziti attached). It's not rocket science.
The more interesting prompters on the MJ discord were knowledgeable of technique, artist references, and culture, which suggested they were likely artists to begin with.
>it's literally exactly the same with human artists.
It's a bad analogy. For one thing, drawing is like handwriting. Sure, artists have influences, but they're filtered through a much more idiosyncratic process, which includes observations of real life. It's not 'remixing,' it's more like 'absorbing.'

wouldnt be suprized if AI was used in the creation of propaganda for 2024 election and wouldnt be suprized if somehow it would result in the gov getting involved. rules for thee but not for me

>>6517170
if thats the case wouldnt it be unethical to use AI if it works like a human

>>6517210
watch every leaked voice recording get called ai fake news now

>>6517203
>If I start a new world in minecraft by pressing generate world, am I the creator of said world?
yes?
> Asking google to generate a random string of number does not make me a creator of a random string generator.
it makes you the creator of the random string
>>6517206
give it a year at most
>break things down intelligently like a human can into their constituent parts
that's literally what the ai does tho
>>6517208
i don't like it, i prefer mine. guess our tastes are way too different bro
>>6517209
>It's not rocket science
show me your best proompt then
>>6517209
semantics

>>6517210
I've already seen people use AI to make Kanye 2024 posters with a nazi red armband aesthetic but with YE instead of a swastika. Of course everything was melting and he had a random nonsensical necklace on but yeah AI voices and shit'll be used to fuck us all up

>>6517212
the gov will do what it always does
uselessly crackdown on it

>>6517213
Here you go

>>6517170
>seethin/g/ at high /ic/ue individuals

>>6517213
>>break things down intelligently like a human can into their constituent parts
>that's literally what the ai does tho
it can't romesh. It can't even recognise watermarks to remove them or recognise people have five fingers. Everything it does it by accident based on the sheer amount of data it's stolen from unconsenting humans

>>6517220
How the fuck is /trv/ so high up?

>>6517218
sorry bro, i'll say it: your art is shit
>>6517221
>It can't even recognise watermarks to remove them or recognise people have five fingers.
lmao, how do you thing negative prompts work if it can't recognize those. holy mother of brainlet

>>6517213
That looks really cool, can you make something with a 16:9 wallpaper resolution?

>>6517229
>negative prompts
oh so there has to be a human intelligence telling it to stop making mistakes. So it doesn't understand shit retard. It literally just makes happy accidents forever and ever, the most derivative shit and you think you're hot shit for spamming garbage and having no life.

>>6517241
>oh so there has to be a human intelligence telling it to stop making mistakes. So it doesn't understand shit retard.
it's almost like it's only a tool, like photoshop or a paintbrush, thanks for proving my point i guess

>>6517229
>it's shit
It's the same as yours, you fucking dunce

> photo with filter
> photo with filter
> photo with filter

yeah, I can see why everyone else moved from this AI shit.

>>6517246
i don't know, but if we were to ask 100 people, i'm pretty sure 99% would disagree with you

>>6517220
i wouldn't be surprised at the ratio inbetween boards, but i call bullshit on the absolute score numbers when compared to genpop. though even the ratio may be unreliable if smaller boards had much fewer participants. but if this dude actually detailed his process it would be really fascinating, assuming he didn't entirely pull it out of his ass
>t. scored 99 on official mensa test

>>6517242
Seems we're in agreement it's only capable of producing derivative garbage by accident such as you're posting then

>>6517255
what accidents? i asked for an aerial view of a wild west landascape

Am I going to lose my job?

>>6517253
>>scored 99 on official mensa test
it shows

>>6517242
Yes its a good tool to keep the delusion that you AIniggers have that you are an “artist”.

>>6517213
>show me your best proompt then
According to what criteria? I have folders full of beautiful women (pic related), otherworldly landscapes, and formal experiments from my two months of prompting (before it all felt masturbatory and I got back to learning to draw).
My personal favorites are like the Tony Soprano one >>6517209 Bizarre meme images. They're the only thing I find AI does particularly well, since 'beauty' alone leads to sterile 'art.'
If I came away with any lesson, it's the value of content.

>>6517267
ever taken one?

crudely reverse engineering is not and will never be a replacement for creation, and in fact this AI can't ever get past this generation of quality at it's core. All of these AI toys aren't long for this world especially with the courts.
>>6517266
No, this isn't the revolution the investors want you to think it is.

>>6517268
The word "artist" lost it's meaning decades ago, when anyone just drawing random scribbles or throwing paint bucket at a wall could call themselves an artist

>>6517266
can you draw hands? if yes then you are probably safe. if not you better learn how to proompt asap, otherwise pajeets will outspeed you everytime
>>6517269
have you tried using literally any model except for the standard one?
>>6517268
sound like cope

>>6517270
No, I was just making a joke that someone even considering that graph was arrived at by some sort of scientific process and not entirely made up can't be very intelligent. Though tbf you could be smart. just autistic.

>>6516872
Generating faces isn't that interesting considering thispersondoesntexist was 2019, and that was very nearly perfect photorealism.
What makes SD et al impressive is the wide range of subject matter they're capable of.

AI is a scam like crypto, prove me wrong. You CAN'T

>>6517284
Where's the scam part if most of it is free?

>>6517285
because if your retarded enough to buy something thats free

>>6517285
>promises art
>delivers runny shit
>b-but it’s freeeee

>>6517287
>runny shit
>still manages to look better than 80-90% of pixiv
If your artworks are getting beaten by runny shit then you are doing something seriously wrong

>>6517288
looks are subjective retard

>>6517290
They are subjective indeed, however statistics are less subjective, and given brand new accounts with little following on pixiv posting AI art can easily reach thousands of likes, where it takes years for "proper" "artists" to achieve the same thing, it can be easily extrapolated to be quite good.

>>6517285
all this hype and investment whilst producing dogshit no one likes whilst fermenting hatred of the technology (by spam and trolling on every art site) and the only real practical use of it is to get fucked in the ass by people that own the copyright to the images it steals. The smart people have already abandoned ship

>>6517290
Never speak in public again.

>>6517294
>to get fucked in the ass by people that own the copyright to the images it steals
>[citation needed]

>>6517284
>i'm retarded, convince me i'm not

>>6517294
>copyright
fair use ;^)

this is less about the contents and more about what the algorithm that shills shit decides to do, its easy to see with youtube content

>>6517285
Ai devs will make tools to detect ai art, like the guy who created chatgpt did, but at a price.

>>6517299
ment for >>6517293

>>6517288
lol
this thrash wouldn’t even be allowed on pixiv

>>6517297
>fair use
It's not a right. It won't hold if the purpose is to replace artist. Sorry, AI troon.

>>6517281
ofc, the text and "negligible" scores tongue-in-cheek. but it seemed mostly random/unexpected enough (hence not just board partisan shitposting) to entertain the idea that *maybe* he'd attempted some inaccurate testing on a few participants. still, most attempts at general 4chan surveys are ignored and derided as datamining, though the authors do usually bother to post the actual results to justify the effort

>Though tbf you could be smart. just autistic.
i'm honestly incredibly fucking tired, and social isolation has also melted away my grey matter

>>6517194
>nobody will able to diffentiate the 2 things
With video/animation and audio, shit's going to be bananas within 5 years
the elevenlabs voice stuff is already very passable

>>6517309
>It won't hold if the purpose is to replace artist.
that's not the purpose. no way a real artist would ever think of himself being a shittier version of an ai. right?

>>6517301
Imagen AI is harder to detect than ChatGPT, given the amount of different models that exist. The detection relies on recognizing patterns in which the thing is generated, but if you have different models, the generation patterns are different

>>6517297
>fair use
the foundation of AI is built upon sand, this is an indefensible position for all AI because it cannot produce anything without the things it competes with.

>>6517315
:^)

>>6517317
it's not transformative when it literally transcribes images into data, and then shits out that data into en masse into a single image. Every image an AI produces is 100s of images mushed together, and then you expect someone to be able to defend this patchwork abomination as some new product of it's own right when it's literally just data from people's copyrighted works. The data belongs to the image it scraped.

>>6517272
Art has always been subjective. The shit smeared on canvas may somehow have meaning for some shithead, and the same can be said for the “art” you ainiggers “made”. Unfortunately with the attitude most of you aifags usually have. Delusional, invasive, spiteful and insufferable. Most people can’t help but associate those qualities everytime they see the “art” that you parasites shit out.

>>6517322
>100s of images mushed together
incorrect, sorry

>>6517322
kek, midbroken

>>6517324
>my subjective is more right than your subjective

>>6517325
>it doesn't work like that
we're at this stage of the AI thread ladies and gentlesirs

>>6517271
>crudely reverse engineering is not and will never be a replacement for creation
Hollywood's be re-cycling the same stories for a hundred years. May not be creative but it pays the cell phone bill.

>>6517317
>completely new or unexpected ways.
Sorry AI troon. It would be a derivative work in that case, not transformative.

>>6517332
I LOVE STAR WARS

>>6517334
we'll you clearly didn't expect losing your job within the next 2 years, kek

>>6517328
Yes that why it called subjective you fucking retard. And it IS FACT that most people are repulsed by you parasites fucking idiot.

>>6517336
I think your GPT bot is having a stroke.

>>6517335
>I LOVE STAR WARS
Kurosawa was better.

>>6517274
>have you tried using literally any model except for the standard one?
What difference does it make? Spending two months on the early versions of MJ and SD was enough for me. Regardless of the quality of the output, I'd rather spend my time learning to draw (preferably on paper) than dicking around with prompts.

>>6517342
>What difference does it make?
>he doesn't know
bro, you are like 6 months behind. check https://civitai.com/ to see how far we've come in so little time

>>6517345
I can tell our priorities are different just based on the AI we post. I'm more interested in subject matter, storytelling and formal experimentation, and you're more interested in ... artifice (fitting, considering your medium of choice).
IOW it's not about the tech, bro.

>>6517345
woah woah woah woah woah woah woah

>>6517312
is she single?

>>6517376
>>Overfitting the model
>WAAOOW PROGRESS

>>6517383
i dont speak greek

>>6517386
Goes to show AI monkeys don't know shit about the tech they're shilling.

>>6517388
i'm not shilling it, neurotic

>>6517355
Your points are why I ultimately couldn't stomach /sdg/ anymore. Absolutely soul-crushingly boring interests and like you say, priorities.
Also sad, or at least interesting, to see SD begin to carry an "anime waifu/pretty girl portrait generator" association due to people overwhelmingly using it to do that.

>>6517405
>opens any booru
>only anime shit
If there is a demand people will try to supply it for quick bucks

>>6517414
>opens a website dedicated to anime
>finds anime
You're a fucking retard

>>6517424
If there is a demand people will try to supply it

>>6517317
Congratulations you are really fucking dumb.

Ai takes images and outputs images genius, the output directly competes in the same purpose of the things it samples.

If the output was poetry or songs then it would be fair use.

>>6517513
>Ai takes images
it doesnt, lmao. it takes the latent space in input

>>6517515
>the same argument over and over that doesn't make any sense
you see reality in front of you and you mental gymnastics your way into dreamland

>>6517518
just because you cant see it or doesnt understand doesnt mean it isnt a thing

>>6517518
>same truth over and over
yes

>>6517513
>Ai takes images and outputs images
Not without significant guiding by the human.
In those cases, it is outputting Art.

>>6517530
>>6517527
we debunked this already aibros
>AI "learns" from images by teaching itself how to recreate elements perfectly
>AI outputs images based on it's teachings
>AI can only do step 1 and 2 meaning it is entirely derivative
it's truly over

I like AI art just like drugs, bring it on pigs try taking it from me

>>6517546
Ok poddweller

>>6517556
We are on the same boat, you just can't see it yet

>>6517542
>>AI "learns" from images by teaching itself how to recreate elements perfectly
>>AI outputs images based on it's teachings
>>AI can only do step 1 and 2 meaning it is entirely derivative
so just like a human?

>>6517651
No. Human brains don't operate based on code and digital inputs. If humans "learned" by connecting a computer to their brain then feeding it direct data processed from digital images and text, then maybe you'd have something of a point.

>>6517658
>he doesn't know

>>6517658
Inocente

>>6517651
then its not ethical

>>6517693
ethics is a meme

>>6517694
To scammers and pajeets, yes.

>>6517694
ok then off the nearest person next to you if thats the case

>>6517714
>>6517715
a meme doesn't mean that ethics don't exist. it's just not what you think

>>6517717
ok then explain it oh wise one

>>6517720
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/5740/5740-pdf.pdf
ur welcome

>>6517722
thats a pdf explaining it, it aint you

>6517325
>it just doesnt work like that, ok?!?
annndddd right on time

>>6517693
>then its not ethical
Ethics are for the little people.

>>6517949
Ethics let the society you live in prevent >t. 15 years old armchair society expert that lives 24/7 online in a rich country, with mommy doing laundry and crying that niggers stole all the pus pus

>>6513239
>Any artist that is afraid or calls AI out for being unethical or a threat is a fucking hack /beg/ looking for excuses on lack of discipline and practicing. Artists did not die out when photography came and this is no different.

Photography is a form of art and communication that has been around for over 150 years, whereas AI generated images are a recent development in the field of artificial intelligence. The process of taking a photograph involves capturing a moment in time through the use of a camera and various techniques such as lighting, composition, and editing. On the other hand, AI generated images are created by algorithms and computer programs, without the involvement of human creativity or intuition. The end result of photography is a unique representation of reality, whereas AI generated images are often abstract and lack the emotional connection and intentionality present in photographs.

>>6517317
Genuine question:
How well does AI pass [if it does in the first place] through these?

>>6513156
seems to be gaining traction. Just posted today

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/13/technology/ai-art-generator-lensa-stable-diffusion.html?smtyp=cur&smid=fb-nytimes

>>6514585
Learn to edit

>>6518948
I would rather have artists fight to the bottom of bidding to edit it for me

>>6517546
how's tonights goyslop tasting consoomer-bugman?