/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Some western / indie publishers of Manga:

Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )
> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up
> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.
> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.

Noir Caesar ( https://www.noircaesar.com/ )
> Focuses on black (specifically African-American) content, but seems willing to publish anyone good enough.
> Seemingly series-based only.
> No "magazine" style updates; series are updated on their own schedule.
> Seems less regular than Saturday AM, but also seems larger in terms of readership.

Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )
> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.

Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )
> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.
> Seemingly taking submissions at present if http://www.antarctic-press.com/html/submissions.php is anything to go on.

Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )
> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.
> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.
> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to yenpress@yenpress.com, however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.

Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )
> *The* western manga publisher.
> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.
> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.
> Still might be worth a shot anyway.

Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )
> Small indie manga publisher
> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes
> Allows crossposting to other sites

Other open comic publishers:

Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )
>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.
>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.

Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )
>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.
>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.

Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )
>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.

Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )
>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faq

Top Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )
>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).

Additional publisher lists:
> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/
> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/

And a new addition, platforms to host your manga:

>Manga Plus Creators by Shueisha
https://medibang.com/mpc/

>Webtoons
https://www.webtoons.com/en/

>Tapas
https://tapas.io

>ComicFury
https://comicfury.com

>GlobalComix
https://globalcomix.com

>Medibang
https://medibang.com

>Pixiv
https://www.pixiv.net/en/

>Mangadex
https://mangadex.org

>Twitter
https://twitter.com

>Tumblr
https://www.tumblr.com

>DeviantArt
https://www.deviantart.com

>Your own website

Current Contests:

Silent Manga Audition: https://www.manga-audition.com/sma19-overflowing-tears-silent-manga-audition/

Magic international manga contest: https://www.shibuya-productions.com/en/magic/magic-international-manga-contest.html,73

4-koma Contest:
https://kitakyushu-mangataisho.com/en/

/mmg/'s very own anon-led anthology: /ic/onography
https://discord.gg/QYnFBves7V
https://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9

How (You) can help /mmg/:

> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.
> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.
> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.
> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effortposts that help you for posterity.

How important is rendering skill for average mangaka? Should i ignore it entirely and focus on improving inking skill?

I can't practice both at the same time

OP image is from Me and Roboco (chapter 109).

On a side note, how do you manage your time? Do you follow a schedule to be more productive?
I haven’t been able to draw anything because my wageslave job is exhausting. I’m going insane, it feels like I’ll never make it.

>>6495465
>How important is rendering skill for average mangaka? Should i ignore it entirely and focus on improving inking skill?
stupid question but what do you mean by rendering?
>>6495467
>On a side note, how do you manage your time?
I'm a NEET which definitely helps.

1 galactic neo feudal surveillance state
100 layers of totalitarian corpotocratic government hierarchy
Only one man can ascend the bureaucratic stairway to heaven
And he finally had his dream
Now he has the power
The power of the GUILLOTINE OVERCHARGE
HEADS WILL ROLL

Grinding and trying to improve my own technical skills for a couple of years before starting making comics, alongside writing the whole script start to finish, both in around 2/3 years of time. Thoughts on this plan? I care about art quality and skill as much as storytelling but sadly I am still /beg/ level

>>6495532
>what do you mean by rendering?
I mean coloring skill like illustrator or something like anime art that you see everyday on Twitter

>>6495618
that is not what rendering means

>>6495467
I abuse amphetamines

>>6495467
I have all the free time in the world as a NEET and yet I still can't bring myself to draw often. I draw like once every 2 to 3 weeks and it's usually doodling for like 20 minutes.

someone should make a manga mega with tutorials and references from manga also someone made a ref Picrel sometime ago depicting emotion with tones with various manga characters

is there a book for the formatting of stuff? like how the speech bubbles work or the background being black in a flashback?

>>6495910
I wish I knew. When I search up manga instruction on Japanese youtube (using japanese keywords) I get tons and tons of material of numerous manga artists going into autistic detail into every single aspect of creating a comic. The culture there is staggeringly different than here.

>>6495721
>>6495910
sounds like we'll just have to study and codify their manga for ourselves.

>>6495935
there are many books going into comics to an autistic detail, no shit japanese are the one ones doing manga specific content, dumb weeb

>>6495964
>there are many books going into comics to an autistic detail
name one (you can't)

>>6496056
lurk for at least 2 threads before posting

Anyone know of any wordpress plugins or a way to code a swipe interface onto your wordpress webcomic with the comicpress/comic easel theme?

>>6496255
What I mean is a way a reader can just scroll down and swipe right or left to get to the next or previous comic page.

How do i get better at inking and lineart bros?

>>6496478
Do it a lot. Progress is measured over years and hundreds of drawings, don't forget that.

>>6495452
Any photoshop brushes for motion lines or other useful tools?

>I just started paying csp ex
>SMA starts giving 3 months free trial if you do an entry
And the sma is the only contest that i still don't know if i should give it a try or not, this could have been the signal to actually do that entry

>>6496059
I accept your concession

>>6495452
>https://mega.nz/folder/9h1mUYSJ#8sJoO57nMP_JhjnujBXkpQ
This link is dead.

What are the copyright laws in US for taking a photo of and grayscaling it black and white and with noise gradient to use as a background? I have seen this done in manga with famous works of art or backgrounds but I know copyright laws in Japan are different. I'd want to use photos of mayan and Egyptian pyramids and the great wall of China. Am I only allowed to use the photos if I take them myself? Are public domain photos free to use and modify?

>>6497501
Unless they're royalty free images you're using, it's 100% illegal

>>6497553
How do I find such royalty free images? Otherwise, I should just not be lazy, and draw it myself instead.

>>6497631
There is no reason to take such shortcuts, since you are 100% not working under publisher deadlines and never will, and so have no need to sacrifice your own skill growth as an artist just to get shit out faster.

But at the same time, since you will never be published or get popular, nobody will ever care that you used photo backgrounds and never learned to draw, so feel free to use any and every photo you can find on google.

>>6497641
>But at the same time, since you will never be published or get popular, nobody will ever care that you used photo backgrounds and never learned to draw, so feel free to use any and every photo you can find on google.
My work is already published. 2 volumes are out and the third is almost here. You can buy them both on Amazon. thanks for the encouragement my bro!
>There is no reason to take such shortcuts, since you are 100% not working under publisher deadlines and never will, and so have no need to sacrifice your own skill growth as an artist just to get shit out faster.
I have deadlines I set for myself, but I'll do my best!

>>6497653
Oh it's you again. It's a little odd for you to be asking such basic ass questions this far into the game.

But again, it depends on if you want to grow as an artist or if you want to put shit out faster.

Alternatively, train yourself to simply draw faster.

BTW, boutique self-publishing is not the same thing as "being published".

>>6497659
>Oh it's you again.
Hey, it's me again!
>BTW, boutique self-publishing is not the same thing as "being published".
It is. The series was published by a publisher before, but I got the rights back. Now I self publish it under my publishing company Omeow Comics. You can buy copies for yourself and your buddies.
>Alternatively, train yourself to simply draw faster.
Good idea.
>It's a little odd for you to be asking such basic ass questions this far into the game.
As I read more manga, I see them use more and more edited photo backgrounds with noise gradient added, and I wonder how they get away with it.
>But again, it depends on if you want to grow as an artist or if you want to put shit out faster.
It's a mix of both. I'll draw the backgrounds myself this time and see what happens. Thanks for the advice, I appreciate your experienced and well meaning feedback and critiques from a published and popular artist like yourself. I am grateful.

>>6497666
>You can buy copies for yourself and your buddies.
I'll pass, thanks. Improve and I'll give it another look.

>>6497681
Will do, broski. Hopefully by the time I get to volume 4 my art will be on the level that is worthy of your time. Thank you for the helpful tips and advice! I hope your artistic output continues to improve as well.

>>6497653
How are your profits? Do advertise your work outside of this place?

>>6497881
Hi anon. I mainly make profits from selling my books and original page art at art shows and comic and anime conventions. I fund my print runs with crowdfunding campaigns, and then sell the books for pure profit at shows. My evergreen bestseller is Purrvana, a colorful watercolor painted psychedelic cat graphic novel that appeals to normies of all ages and all demographics from bikers to gangsters to grannies to crazy cat ladies. I have sold over 2,500 copies of Purrvana to date. I also make money from commissions, both my OCs and other people. Most of my commissions are catfight wrestling matches featuring my OCs or other people's OCs. I advertise mainly on pixiv, discord, twitter and my webcomic also works as an advertisement. I also drew animal coloring books years ago that still sell, at shows and online. After a bad experience working with a publisher several years ago, I began self publishing and now that's all I want to do.

I read that Image creators are in the red and go in to debt with Image unless their book sells a certain amount of copies. I recently read tweets from an image artist who says that after his book he worked on sold 5 issues at 15,000 issues each, he only made $1100 in profit and he got paid months after the final issue came out, after the profit share was split with image, the writer and colorist. I don't sell a high volume of copies, and my crowdfunders don't go crazy, but I still make a lot more profit than that Image artist whose book was selling 15,000 copies each issue for example because I keep all the profit of sales for myself. I also do freelance work. Advertising and marketing is not really something I'm good at, but I'm getting by and trying to improve at it. I'm also going to start a life drawing class at my local Junior College next week and I hope it will up my skills so I can charge more for commissions, and it will also improve my comic pages. No rest for the wicked.

>>6497906
Thanks for the reply. Sounds rough for non-asian artists.

>>6497909
>Sounds rough for non-asian artists.
No problem! Many working in the Japanese manga and animation industry work slave labor hours for very little pay, I'm sure they have much rougher lives than I do. My life is pretty good all things considered. I am grateful I get to draw comics and tell the stories I want to tell with full creative control. I have traveled all over the world and have seen first hand how much worse life can be. I got nothing to complain about.

What's the name of that manga about a female high school student who likes to draw and then becomes the apprentice of this strict teacher? I figured you guys might know what I'm talking about

>>6497919
Kaku Kaku Shikajika
It's an autobiography of how the author refused to draw seriously until she realized how much she was spoiled in life.

I hate how isekai took off and now everyone does weird ren faire take on their worlds. Where its medieval but somehow modern.
That was my initial take for my comic's world about high tech medieval knights. But now Im starting feel the idea is over done and Im wondering if I should revise it.

>>6498314
>about high tech medieval knights.
You mean like Knights of the Zodiac? -_-

>>6498314
My worldsetting is the same thing, but I get inspiration from JRPGs not isekai. I also do fantasy because idk enough about real life to do a realistic setting, it's easier for me to not have to worry about technology and physics in realistic worldbuilding and use fantasy as a metaphor or allegory for a theme rather than trying to be immersive or realistic for self insert.

>>6498399
Never watched it, so probably

>>6498314
You shouldn't not do something just because it's popular. If you're worried about standing out in an over-saturated genre, then your problem in your idea is probably more fundamental. If you like the setting, stick with it and work on your world-building, characters, writing or design instead. Don't bet on getting readers by being unconventional, instead do what you like and work on doing it well.

>>6498314
Isekai is the manga equivalent of dime romance novels you see in bookstores written for middle aged women and angsty teenage girls and weird maladjusted twenty something men. Only difference is the genders are flipped.

There's no such thing as an original idea. What matters is how you use the idea. Make something good, and it will be 'original' by simply the fact you made it. You leak into your good works, and one of the defining trait of bad works is often when that doesn't happen.

>>6498550
How the fuck did Kishimoto draw all this?

>>6498572
One line at a time. Each individual drawing is very simple.

>>6497925
Thank you anon, that's it!

>>6498314
>But now Im starting feel the idea is over done and Im wondering if I should revise it.
As long you have a unique 'twitst' or take on the genre then you'll still stand out in an oversaturated market.
I'd even go as far as say it can be advantageous to use a popular genre/setting like isekai because your audience will immediatly know what to expect.
>"It's an isekai with cool battles, knights, monsters and magic? It's just like the other isekai's I love!"
You can essentially bait an audience and have fun with it by subverting isekai tropes and expectations.
>"that isekai by anon isn't like your average isekai! It looks generic at the beginning but slowly turns into this super deep subversion of the genre. It's fucking peak fiction!"

That's for example the kind of comments isekais like Mushoku Tensei, Re:Zero, Tanya the evil and Konosuba get.
>"It's an isekai but without the shitty writing and blatant power fantasy elements. I swear it's good!"

>>6498314
Just DO IT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx9juW8-oq0

>>6498314
It's great that you're questioning your creative direction and want to find a unique and fresh angle for your comic. I recommend researching other cultures and periods of time for inspiration. This will allow you to broaden your perspective and bring new and innovative ideas to your work. You can also consider incorporating elements of other genres, like science fiction, to add an extra layer of uniqueness to your story. By exploring different cultures, time periods and genres you'll have the opportunity to create a world that is truly your own and stands out in a sea of comics.

>>6496478
Try different brushes and pens and settle for one that feels easy to use. Practice a lot with it and move on to another one. Surely enough, you'll start uncovering the nuance of lineart.

So what I gathered from the jump guide is that I should be doing this kinda short stuff and copying art, preferably entire manga pages. I was really reluctant to draw any actual comic for a while but now that I've done it it was kinda fun, I also feel like the end result was far better than expected. I'll probably do this and and the krenz copy stuff from /asg/

I feel like actually making attempts at doing whatever the end goal is, even if very toned down ones, is crucial no matter the skill
I'll try to get over my embarrassment

>>6500640
Also fuck I just realized the panels are right to left but the pages are left to right

>>6497666
>It is
No, it's not. You don't have external deadlines. You're your own boss, and you're not going to suffer any serious consequences for slipping on your deadline. You're under very little pressure, there's a lot of slack, and you can afford to take the time to do things the good way instead of the quick and dirty way. It's not the same.

>>6498572
He didn't.

What happened to this thread? It used to have at least 6 anons drawing their comics and talking about it. Now is full of stupid questions like:
>How do i get better at inking and lineart bros?
>Lets talk about Fujimoto art
>frogposting bur without frogpic
What the fuck, where are the old anons?

>>6500685
Can't speak for others but I've been here since thread 1. Just can't post most of what I draw nowadays since it's all either under NDA or something I plan on sending to a publisher so don't want to post all online uncensored.

>>6500692
Are you the Devilsmoon author? the artstyle is similar

>>6500715
No.

>>6500659
I have a product I need to get out that is late and owed to people who pre-ordered it, and I also need to finish it so I can launch a new crowdfunder for it later this month and so I can start working on different projects afterwards. If I don't set my own deadlines, nothing will ever get finished. I also have big shows in Spring and Summer I need to get the new book ready in time for.
>>6500685
I don't know.

>>6500737
NTA but if this is the Quickdraw guy is it coming back anytime soon I miss it dearly

>>6500746
>I have a product I need to get out that is late and owed to people who pre-ordered it, and I also need to finish it so I can launch a new crowdfunder for it later this month and so I can start working on different projects afterwards. If I don't set my own deadlines, nothing will ever get finished. I also have big shows in Spring and Summer I need to get the new book ready in time for.
Self-set deadlines are not at all the same, and the fact that you are late and yet can still continue to work on this project is evidence of this. I don't know what your game is trying to play this as the same thing as being at risk of being let go by your publisher or employer, but I know it's bullshit.

>>6500798
I've thought about going back to working on that but it doesn't get me paid so I simply can't justify expending time and energy on it.

>>6500803
If I publish my own books so why would I fire myself? I simply state that I have deadlines.
>I don't know what your game is trying to play
Some call it the game of life anon.
>but I know it's bullshit.
You're a big guy.

>>6500822
>If I publish my own books so why would I fire myself? I simply state that I have deadlines.
Yes, self-set deadlines. I'm saying that's a different beast from external deadlines (ie those set and enforced by anything other than yourself, such as a contest submission deadline or a publisher deadline).
As you said, why would you fire yourself? Therefore if you slip, there are no real consequences, it just comes out late and fans aren't all that happy. This is why it's silly to say it's the same thing.

>>6500825
Ok I see what you're saying anon. I make less money if I miss my deadlines which matters to me-but I don't get fired. Other people who miss their deadlines do get fired. Je comprends.

>>6500685
When was that? I've only been following these threads for two years and usually it seems to be discussion posts and there is only a comic page share once a while.

>>6500803
wow day ruined
Jokes aside that's reasonable, good to see you're making money with your art.

>>6500946
Yeah it's the double-edged sword of depending on comic work for my income. On one hand, I get to do what I'm passionate about all the time without having to work a day job, but on the other hand everything I make is drawing from the same well, so I can't just draw whatever takes my fancy in the moment.

>reading my comic after a few weeks
>its so cringe I want to kill myself
>can't read it properly because I still remember drawing and writing everything
how do I stop being so self aware? will drugs help?

>>6501169
I just don’t read my comics. It’s the only way I can avoid the cringe and I just keep drawing without looking back.

>>6501169
By continuing to make comics until you can look back at it and think "huh, actually better than I remembered". Also I find it takes a few months to shake off the draw-brain from it.

>>6501169
Being aware is very useful and will help you write better stories.

How many "things" should happen in one chapter?

>>6501222
At least one, or we should learn something significant. Something, be that the story or the reader's understanding of the characters, should progress.

>>6501186
>>6501180
>>6501193
thanks anons

>>6501222
4 scenes max. 1-2 for action packed chapters. You should buy manga and study it.

Someone please convince me to delete my japanese anki deck. Please. I can't bear to give up Japanese, but it's never gonna happen, and i don't want to waste more time on this.

>>6498650
Its one of the image guys ? Is it Marc Silvestri ?

>>6498572
Assistants. I dont care, I still think Kishimoto was the best artist of the big 3.

>>6502361
Is he right /mmg/?

>>6502475
I heard assistants go for as little as 180 yen a hour. You can probably hire one too!

>>6502518
I wouldn't get too excited, just having assistants isn't a magic bullet.
Been learning that myself over the past months.

>>6502518
I wanna stay anonymous like that beastar author with the chicken hat and pay my assistants with crypto how do I go about that

>>6502475
Wrong, Kubo was the best. He was able to draw a complete drawing in ink without a draft while the other guys had to use pencil first.
However, Kubo is also the laziest. The proof for that is obvious.

>>6503170
that's actually schizophrenic behavior, if you're hiring an assistant why would you need to hide your identity from them? you're talking about making manga, not trafficking drugs
tell your assistant you're writing under a pen name and prefer to remain faceless or pseudonymous to the public

>>6495705
I can relate, although lately I’ve been drawing more frequently because I recently got into a piece of media and my favourite character is one of the most hated characters in the fandom, so I’m drawing and posting fanart of her out of spite. Maybe you should find a similar motive.

>>6495583
Maybe you should just improve your skill as a writer and find a professional artist who’d be willing to illustrate your stuff. There are plenty of comics and manga where the write and artist are different people.

>>6502475
>Kishimoto was the best artist of the big 3
Big agree

any schizo webtoons? like some art brut type shit. think Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff but completely unironic.

>>6503489
I don't know if it fits that well but Super Mega Comics has similar levels of anti-humour and is generally kinda upsetting to look at:
https://www.supermegacomics.com/
Achewood just barely qualifies but it has some batshit arcs like everytime Cartilage Head shows up but it's also genuinely the best webcomic of all time.

>>6503493
damn that's a classic i completely forgot

>>6503496
I hadn't thought of SMC in a while, I was surprised to find out it still gets new strips every once in a while. Just remembered, that Jennfer A. Jay guy's comics are weirdly disturbing since he's been at it forever. If you're looking for 100% sincere weirdness that's the closest I can come up with.
If you haven't read Achewood I definitely recommend it, not that it's all that close to what you want but it's a masterpiece and I rarely get the chance to shill it.

>>6501169
>reading my comic after a few weeks
>its so cringe I want to kill myself

>reading my comic after a few months
>It's cringe-kino as I chuckle at some of the jokes.

I still cringe at new art/writing I create but after enough time has passed I've forgotten the original vision I've had and all of the small mistakes and can truly look at it objectively with truly fresh eyes.

>>6501222
Learn the concept of moment to moment, action to action, scene to scene and aspect to aspect. You can have as many things happen in a chapter as you can fit panels or have nothing happen at all, it depends on what you are trying to convey in your story.

>>6503489
Why do most popular webtoons throw good paneling out of the window? I get that it works for the medium of scrolling down on your phone but it also looks so lazy. People read Manga on their phone too so I guess I shouldn't worry if I wanted to put mine on the web with traditional paneling

>>6503860
Different mediums

>>6503860
I've seen some decently popular webtoons that panel like a manga.
But yeah the one panel style definitely looks boring as fuck.

>>6503267
I wanna be like diavolo lol

>>6495452
Can you write a complete story arc in a 102 pages ?

>>6504123
you can do it in one panel

>>6497906
>That Kill la Kill pose

>>6504123
If you do it right, yes. That's plenty.
That's, what, five chapters of a standard length manga, give or take? double spreads and bookends? You can tell a complete arc in one. If you know how.

>>6498314
>But now Im starting feel the idea is over done and Im wondering if I should revise it.

Why do you worry about that? If you wanna make money then just about anything will pay better than comics and a lot of it is a much more AI proof career. Even asians who pull sales we can only dream off are largely not very well off financially. Just make whatever you want to make and don’t concern yourself with mass appeal or originality.

>>6504642
I don't want to make comics for money, it would be a plus but I don't think I'd be rich or famous from my comic.
I just have stories I want to tell.
The story I'm working on is still pretty early in development. I'm more looking into clothes for my characters because I keep drawing them naked. I always picture them in simple clothes relatively modern but not too modern.

what are some good screentones packs for CLIP stusio? I just installed this and dont know much about it, I see there is some kind of "marketplace" but its all in japanese, are they free or you need to buy/pirate?
also I wanted to ask about shading like this with long lines, is it done by a hand one by one or the is some brush to make it faster?

>>6502475
How can his art still look good with barely noticed line weight?

Comics is too hard.

>>6505074
Because he supplants line weight with hatching and contour lines. It's similar to western Ink and Pen, where the definition. Provies superior definition, but isn't as good for defining subtle lightand shadow, only light areas and dark areas. It's an extremely labour intensive style and not something I'd have expected from a mangaka, but its easily some of the most beautiful on the market. Kishi must've killed himself to get this done, poor bastard.

>>6505246
Any mediocre artist can make a colored comic. It takes an extraordinary talent to make something as beautiful as what you just posted.

>>6505246
>Because he supplants line weight with hatching and contour lines. It's similar to western Ink and Pen, where the definition. Provies superior definition, but isn't as good for defining subtle lightand shadow, only light areas and dark areas. It's an extremely labour intensive style and not something I'd have expected from a mangaka, but its easily some of the most beautiful on the market. Kishi must've killed himself to get this done, poor bastard.
Are we looking at the same drawings? It's just basic bitch millipen drawing with some quick hatching for shade, and looks absolutely nothing like the image in this post.

>>6505246
Those fifties guys were something else

I think my problem is I just don't read enough manga/comics. I just don't know where to begin. I have ideas for big epic stories, but I always give up on those. I try for smaller stories but its hard to come up with ideas for small stories

>>6505294
Yeah, is this guy really describing this picture >>6502475
As on par with this? >>6505246

Because they are not even fucking close. Even without the comparison, the manga page looks like hot garbage. I don't know how anyone calls this guy good.

>fanboy circlejerkers have derailed another thread

>>6505780
You got something to say?

>>6505760
>imagine wanting to become a film maker and rarely watching films
>imagine wanting to become a writer and not reading books.
You need to find something else to do mate, I'm just being honest with you. If you didn't grow up reading comics, you are very fucked.

>>6505788
imagine telling people you want to make comics but all you can shit out is cheap low-grade porn

>>6505792
pyw buddy

>>6505788
I grew up reading comics, I just don't read them as much now

>>6505800
ah then you are good man. But definitely get into stuff you think it's cool with good stoytelling and buy actual comics in print. Movies also help. I mean, that's what Otomo did.

>>6505797
Why? My work has nothing to do with the point.

>>6505804
>My work has nothing to do with the point.
and mine does?
you were talking shit about my work and it was besides the point I was making. You know my reasoning was accurate, but you just wanted to shit on me because I draw nsfw, and that somehow makes you morally superior to me.
I would really love to see your great SFW artwork anon. I bet it's great.

>>6505817
Your work is related to the point, though you ironically didn't realize it. You see, because you were shitting on someone else who you assumed had no interest in comics, while demonstrating that you, with your implied heavy interest in them, did not produce anything worth calling a comic. Proving that having a ton of experience in consuming comics has nothing to do with what you actually make.

In fact, I would say that the problems with modern comics AND manga is that the creators are TOO into the medium and have zero outside influences and thus bring nothing novel to the table, as demonstrated with your generic porn.

If I posted my own comics, whether they were the greatest or the worst things you ever saw in your life, it would make no bearing on that point since I neither stated my own experience or interest in consuming comics nor made a claim as to if it was necessary before you proved it was not.

>>6505838
so I must stop reading comics and drawing porn, and instead get really into watching porn and drawing comics

>>6505846
It would probably make your porn better, yes.

>>6505788
False, most of the greatest mangaka grew up watching movies and only did manga as it's the easiest way for them to tell stories. We get mediocre manga because of fans who only use manga as a source of inspiration.

>>6505294
>>6505766
Make no mistake, Kishi's art is nothing like Al Williamson. It's not an extremely fair comparison either, considering Williamson didn't have to work on the same schedule, and is from a drastically different time.

>>6505838
>still didn't pwy
didn't read your shitpost.
This guy >>6505846 isn't me btw. I dont' watch porn.

>>6505883
>most of the greatest mangaka grew up watching movies and only did manga as it's the easiest way for them to tell stories.
I seriously hope you are not implying that mangakas didn't read a lot of manga growing up. That would be a very retarded and wrong assumption. Nearly everyone reads comics in Japan, that's why the industry there is huge.
One of the first things Hirohiko Araki tells you in " Manga in Theory and Practice" is to go read the top bestselling comics and study them.

>>6504791
>also I wanted to ask about shading like this with long lines, is it done by a hand one by one or the is some brush to make it faster?
The hatching on the jacket? Nah, that's not a custom brush, he just hatched it.

So, do you guys write first (dialogues, plot line) and then go for name/draft, or you write as you do the name/draft?

As in, do you already know what the chapter will be and have the dialogues and scenes ready for layout, or you discover during the chapter draft?

>>6506118
I write up a rough outline, then do dialogue, then do another pass and at least one rewrite before I start on chapter 2, then I keep going until the entire thing is written and I don't have a single page drawn because I'm eternally ngmi
Then I start it all over again with a new idea

>>6506118
I write the dialogue right onto the page, using it as a sort of marker for where the panel's going to be (also using a brief non-dialogue description of the panel if there's no dialogue I think I might forget what's supposed to go there) for a few pages at a time, then I go back and quickly storyboard it. I do this in chunks of 2-5 pages at a time, not really coinciding with scenes or anything. This allows me to work out the pacing, phrasing and dialogue all at once.

Anyone here explicitly study cinematography, composition, storyboarding for comics? What are the best resources / exercises you've found?

>>6506307
Framed Ink 1 & 2 by Marcos Mateu-Mestre

>>6506459
How did you study those books? What was your actual method? All I have been doing so far is reading, and then drawing comics. Did you find reverse storyboarding to be of any help?

>>6506481
Study your favourite media with the information from the books in mind and you will begin to see patterns very quickly

>>6505990
how do you study a comic or manga?

>>6497925
Has anyone else read this? I want to talk about it with someone. I found it pretty depressing.

>>6507332
eh, you reminded me I have this bookmarked for quite some time, maybe I;ll start reading today
for anyone interested https://mangakakalot.com/chapter/kakukaku_shikajika/chapter_1

>>6507332
>>6507352
imma read it too. We should have a manga book-club, where we share studies and investigations on great manga examples and how they draw / tell stories

does working on a comic make you more or less motivated to draw?

>>6507189
Observation and note taking
It would help immensely to know fundamental terms like hue, value, form, etc so you can actually know what you're looking at

>>6507391
Depends how much you like your story

>>6507332
All this hard work and dedication to make some comicbooks. If she set up to make loads of money instead she’ll be millionaire (dollar one) by now.

>>6507391
It's the only reason I draw.

>>6507332
How was it depressing?

>Finally picked up the One Piece manga after not reading it since I was a teen
>Find the chapters extremely difficult to parse and find my eye glazing over constantly
>Gee maybe One Piece just isn't for me anymore
>Within a few chapters, the art style becomes incredibly easy to read and consume and I find all sorts of small details

Really makes me think.

>>6507332
Why? Just because sensei died? Or is it the reality of art as a career? Or is it the growing up part, responsibilities etc?

>>6507441
>>6507429
>>6507527
Watching people who are capable of such effort and dedication makes me feel awful about myself.

>>6507534
To be fair, Sensei came from a time where having the freedom to do what you want was not available, post-war era, and only started art as a full adult. Akiko slacked off throughout her whole life and only committed when she finally had to work a real job and make money, life slapping her in the face.
Honestly, strong dedication comes with momentum which is why the advice of "just draw" is useful as you really need to start moving your pen if you want something to get done.

why are my lines both blurry and jaggy at the same time?

>>6507332
What's the point of drawing manga? I don't feel like drawing manga anymore.

>>6507903
To tell a story with pictures and words. Is that not good enough for you?

>>6507332
>>6507352
>>6507952
I genuinely feel like this manga just changed my life. It was a spiritual experience. My whole perception of reality has been irrevocably changed. Is this what true literature does? I want to make literature like this.

If you guys have more manga recommendations that will change someone's life, please share them.

>>6508036
It's a person recounting their life but told through the manga medium. Maybe it has more impact on you because it actually happened in real life?

>>6508038
stories like Frankenstein, David Copperfield, and 'Never let me go' have also been life-changing experiences for me. Good stories feel so rare nowadays

>>6508050
Maybe it's your personal connection with the protagonist? I really enjoyed the manga too, I read it twice. But it's not because it's spectacular in my eyes, but because the story was actually inspiring and made me want to draw as I myself am lazy too.

>>6508056
I think so. I applied (and failed to get into) art school 4 times and am a neet trying to make it as a freelance artist / published comic artist / writer. I'm an absolute failure in every respect, except persevering and improving my work every day. I just wish I had a hard-ass asian granddad to push me like she did.

>>6508056
but even more than just that, I thought it was a really well written story.

>>6508076
Her sensei wasn't the reason she succeeded in manga though. It was the fact that she had to work a real job doing something she hated and was met with the reality that she was spoiled up to this point. She wanted out of that life so badly she spent all of her free time and more working on manga submissions until she got a serialization, which is when she moved out and could live off that alone. She admits, and you can see in her art, that she never took sensei seriously and still lacks a lot in her art ability, which she regrets as she wishes she took him seriously in the first place. It was the better life along with the stable money that made her very successful in manga.

>>6507332
Why do these sorts of manga always obsess over art when manga tends to have really poor art compared to western comics?

>>6508084
Yes, the story is about the mistakes that we all make in youth, which is why it affected me so much. I suppose different stories will affect you differently depending on your stage in life

>>6508221
What left me puzzled is the complete lack of focus on developing writing skills, despite the author stating that writing is more important than art in comics.

>>6508221
I wouldn't say it has poor art as much as simpler and less polished art

Manga authors focus a lot on drawing the characters expressions and on the overall imagery and feeling as opposed to western artists that polish the technical aspect of their craft

This is why a lot of mangas have more appeal despite having "worse" art

>>6507332
Books about authors
Comics about comic artists
And movies about actors or directors

Are a garbage lazy premise and always will be shit for hacks with no actual ideas.

>>6508581
Idk I liked princess jellyfish.

>>6508221
yeah western superior , even so........no one buys

>>6507383
should this be a thread/general? would it belong here or on /lit/? haven't read, will read soon, interested, cant wait to see a manga book club general pop up to excise the nonstop AI threads

>>6509389
Just discuss manga about making manga in this general, as it's on topic. No need to turn this into something new.

>>6505788
That argument is as bullshit as "You can't criticize black people because you are not black"

>>6507743
Probably because you are slowing down instead of taking the pen out of the paper

>>6508221
Demon Slayer outsold the entire western comic industry by itself. Maybe people other than boomers don't actually like or read western comics compared to more simply drawn manga like Demon Slayer. It's about composition and storytelling, not how detailed and hyper realistic your art is.

>>6509961
>Demon Slayer outsold the entire western comic industry by itself.

"It is important to contextualize where these numbers came from to begin with. Matrix cites Otaku USA, which in turn cites Anime News Network. The ANN article in question is about Demon Slayer's sales in Japan for the October 19-25 week in 2020, according to Oricon. Though not part of the headline story, the article states that the series had 100 million copies in circulation (including digital copies, which Oricon does not count), not sales, as of the 22nd volume's release on October 2.

Neither ANN nor Otaku USA reported on American comic book sales. The video version of Matrix's article indicates that his source for the "15 million" number is a sankaku Complex article, which in turn cites comic book blog The Beat's analysis of NPD BookScan data for 2019. It should be noted that the analysis is restricted only to the top 750 titles, so the 15 million figure applies only to that selection. It should also be noted that BookScan only represents a selection of retailers, and is not representative of the entire market.

That said, even the 15 million figure from The Beat's limited-scope analysis is a lower amount than Oricon's reported sales figures for Demon Slayer in 2019: 12 million copies. That figure is also disputed; publisher Shueisha reported that the manga sold 10.8 million volumes that year. So Demon Slayer clearly didn't outsell the American comics industry in the same frame of time. By conflating Demon Slayer's lifetime circulation numbers with yearly sales and stacking them against partial sales numbers in the American market for 2019, the numbers provided in Matrix's article paint a misleading picture."

And this source came from a anime focused website . YA and creator owned series do well in sales . The only real decline in sales is coming from marvel and dc(which is a good thing).

>>6505246
Whats your obsession with Al Williamson ? Have you even read his Flash Gordon or Star Wars strips ? Nothing with liking his work but you keep posting the same spread in a different thread every month .

>>6500737
Wait you're getting published? Congrats dude. I remember seeing your old art. (Even the old commission sheet). Any advice?

>>6510165
To clarify, I'm (very slowly) working on a side project to send to whichever eromanga publication will take it. The previous side project I was working on was for the same purpose, but there's a series it ended up being way too similar to (same structure, very similar characters, I was planning on distinguishing my work from the other few a number of developments, and half of them ended up being revealed in the other work), so I decided to drop the project. That dropped project I had sent the storyboard in to the publisher and received encouraging words (nothing legally binding, just "looks good, please finish it and send it in and we can talk further"), but this new project I have not. I'm not entirely sure the new project is on theme for the magazine I was aiming to get into, so I feel it's more of a gamble.
Anyway long story short no publication deal has been struck, I just plan to send it to a publisher. It's too early to celebrate.

>>6510183
Ah alright then

>>6510136
cool reddit spacing

>>6507332
good read but i find the femc/author to be infuriating. the teacher is based though. i noticed the author’s drawing is pretty shitty sometimes, possibly due to meeting chapter deadline.

>pretty severe untreated add so i can't focus on anything i actually love for more than a couple of hours a week
>broke so can't even try and get that fixed
>sick as a dog so manual work is out of the question but not enough to get any sort of welfare
>too old and without experience to get any decent job that wouldn't need to be manual

how do i make it. i can't focus on anything at all, at this pace i will never get anything done and i have pretty much stagnated these past 10 years.

anyone here in a similar situation?

>>6510386
how old?

>>6510404
31

>>6510409
wont be easy path but it’s still not too late. there’s a lot of entry level office work if you keep on looking. get a job and get money/health insurance to get your add treated. draw on the side as much as you can.

>>6508581
watch out folks an "auteur" is among us!

>>6509729
?????????

>>6510453
>t. idealet
Show me your upcoming comic about how hard it is to make a comic

>>6510462
his point is that you're unnecessarily close-minded. The storytelling in Kakukaku is objectively good, but you won't let yourself enjoy it because... why?

>>6510155
That's not ALL me.
Just MOSTLY me.
I copied the filename from the thread I got it from.

It has been more that 2 months, and i still can remake the first page of the first chapter/one shot (weirdly first shot sound fitting for that) of the series that i want to make, but i still keep getting swarmed by ideas, and before i fucked up i wanted to make a lot of one shots entries for this year contest (since i remember there is a lot of them) and i still i'm fucking paralyzed by the shock of election, what do i do, do i keep trying to remake the one shot of last year, do i try to move on and make those contest one shots first? Can i post all the ideas that i have in mind and get some advice in how to proceed so i don't lose another fucking year?

>>6510692
It really depends where you are skill-wise. I think if you need to work on writing/composing/basic fundies then you'd be better served working on shorter comics and foregoing oneshot contests for the time being. If you think you're already at a good place skill-wise then it's a decision that will take more thought.

>>6510692
Whatever you do, do something. Don't just sit around thinking about doing stuff, that gets you nowhere.

>>6510700
Right now i think that i'm good in the whole drawing area, but i still lacking on writting, but that's just because i realize how much of a fiasco i'm with words, i barely can talk and anxiety takes over me, that's the hardest part, but 2 of the one shots for contest are with 0 dialogue, 1 for sma, and the other one is the one that does the japanese embassy in march or may

>>6510763
I can write well in a machine (the scripts sort of things) and i'm having a relapse on my arms, so right now, it's the only thing that i can do right now
If any knows any way to lay out pages wit the bare minimus of use of my hands, i would be thankful

I was gonna ask how you figure out how to block in your paneling with drawings. Like I want to have a tall panel with full body shot of a character but it doesn't fit the page with the rest of the panels and how I want each panel to go. What is the best method of resolving these types of issues?

>>6498572
lots of assistants

>>6510692
just start making a comic and posting it. forget about the perfect story or any of that. Focus on getting something actually done.

>>6511375
how do you reconcile your first comic series being inconsistent in quality if it goes on long enough that you get pretty good at drawing? Do you just use some kind of throw-away idea and then move to your dream story once you get good?

>>6511356
Storyboard your sequences out quickly and roughly so you can hash out issues like this over several pages. If you can't make it work, then make a concession and change something.

What ink is typically used for manga/comics? Waterproof india ink?

how do you balance simplicity and interesting designs?

wanting to do comics more, but i feel my default go to designs are usually simple enough but they start to blur together and they're just not that interesting to look at,. but i dont want to introduce too many frills and unique aspects because i'm a lazy fuck

1/20 colored ver.

>>6511388
You're going to have a better experience creating what you want now rather than wasting time on ideas you're less invested in. Your first few stories won't be that good anyways, your writing will improve and eventually your current dream story will be followed by other better ones.

Transitioning my characters from a chef-hentai comic to a knight-hentai comic.

>>6512700
Hate to be that guy but are you ever gonna actually, y'know, make this thing?

Is this the nib Urasawa uses?
https://www.jetpens.com/Tachikawa-Deluxe-Comic-Pen-Nib-Japanese-Model-Pack-of-3/pd/16779

>Page 8
Come on lads. You can do better than that.

>Exporting art at full size
I'm a dumbass.

>>6513128
Yes

page numba 6. I hope to never have to draw a classroom again

>>6515138
>He isn't using a ruler

>>6515363
no rulers can be a neat look

>>6515363
I did at first but I liked more that croocked way

>>6515490
You still got the drawing? I wanna take a look at it. Might be able to give some advice.

>>6515572
Unfortunately not. Only the original page I used as the base for this colored version

Does anyone have a high quality scan of a page of Araki's relatively recent work? 2010s onwrd, pretty much. I've realized all the work I've been studying from is fucking microscopic.

>>6515874
holy shit that's fucking beautiful

>>6515874
You should buy a physical volume.

>>6515874
try here https://nyaa.si/?f=0&c=3_0&q=jojo

>>6515952
Yeah, it's pretty good. But Araki has the advantage of drawing on a monthly basis rather than a weekly one - and, you know, forty years of experience. So I try to hold him in similar regards to his peers.

>>6516041
I was only looking for a handful of pages but.
Alright. I'll take what I need. I would never have bought the full volumes anyway, not in this economy.

I feel like the last panel reads badly, what should I change?

>>6517848
translate to normal language

>>6517853
Yeah, I'll do it soon, I was thinking that purely visually, something reads wrong in the last panel
(also noticided i forgot to add the camo pattern to the dress in first frame)

>>6517866
maybe add white outline around the character so it stands out from background a bit better

>>6517848
Looks cool already anon, maybe ad some onomatopea? But I dont think its necessary.

Anyone have a good guide/reference for drawing panels that take place at night?

>>6517935
Make the contrast higher.

Hey anons, Would you read this if you saw this panel

>>6515138
page 7

>>6517964
i really like the panel

Anyone else feel disgusted by Kill La Kill? I can't get past the first episode. Why is anime so weird?

>>6518827
>disgusted
>Why is anime so weird?
this is not the place to ask but the early episodes of klk are the best part of that show, you might as well stop watching anime altogether if you're getting filtered that hard by risque schoolgirl fanservice
tldr fuck off back to wherever you came from

>>6495452
Just made my new website for my manga/comic. Please check it out. Arigatou gozaimasu.

Yeah i know chap.1 looks kind of shitty but I promise chap.2 will be a bazillion times better.

Onwards and upwards!

>>6518989
the url is roseandthorncomic.com. thanks again

>>6518827
Kill la Kill was the moment action anime died

>>6518875
i watch hentai on a daily basis, but still I can't stomach kill la kill

>>6518992
yeah

>>6518827
>Anyone else feel disgusted by Kill La Kill? I can't get past the first episode. Why is anime so weird?
There's no grounding in any reality, things happen and make sense, but they kinda float in a vacuum of events, kinda like Utena in which everything happens in some sort of microcosm isolated from the rest of the world, combined with the animation and colors it can get intense.
I remember feeling the same when I first saw it, but I had a fever so I just thought to be hallucinating.

>>6519122
yeah, it was just senseless fan service. It's like the animators said "oh, the dumb otakus will buy this, just draw more butt shots" Absolute insult to my intelligence.

Do you add values as you go along, or as a seperate part of the process?

I'm not too happy with the colors but I just settled with this because I kept switching around the brown for the hair and the base skin tone.

>>6519200
make a barrier around the areas you want to shade and then do it after your done with the line art.

>>6517964
Based on the art, yeah, it wouldn't be a problem
It would come down to story

>>6517964
Perhaps. Is this about world renowned muslim pilot Mohamed Atta?

>>6519184
94 IQ btw

>>6519184
>yeah, it was just senseless fan service
Nigger, that is nowhere close to what I said, why are you even agreeing with me then injecting your complaints, retard.

>having dreams about people talking about my comic online

>>6519200

I always do it after the line art is done. Sometimes I go panel by panel, other times I get all line art done for a full page first before delving in. Just whatever I feel like at the time. I find values and shading to be relaxing, so I sometimes do it to break up the (in my opinion) harder work of doing lineart.

>>6519594
>>6519609
Thanks anons, I kinda just freestyled this, I was thinking of turning it into a story maybe.

>>6518827
I didn't care for it. It's pretty mid. Cute girls tho

>>6519611
>>6519671
>using the n-word, yet calling me the r-word
great job

How do I get off the perfectionist mindset?
I wanna make a comic and publish it in Webtoon or Tapas or whatever.
I have the general plot roadmap , the bible, and the feel, but I lack the art. Kind of.
Seeing the general art mastery of the average webcomic (shit the general starting mangaka) artist, I think I'm on the 60% percentile. Not because I'm very good, but because they're shit.
And even then, actual drawing ability is usually not that important to the success of a webcomic/manga and sometimes you're even expected to get better as you publish it.
Yet, whenever I'm about to start making it, I stop because I wanna do something I clearly don't have the ability to pull yet, and it comes out like shit and get frustrated.
How do I accommodate my content closer to my current ability? Should I lower my ambitions on my art? That seems counterproductive, how do I improve then?
How do I bite the bullet, accept it looks like shit but is the best I can do and publish it?

>>6520140
Short Stories. Don't be lazy, and make some short stories.

Would you read a manga in this style?

>>6521109
the potential is there but I'd prefer if it was cleaner

Trying to prepare for the silent manga audition, and I was wondering why was their formatting samples so different from the other publishers (comparing it to the presets on csp from shueisha or kodansha)?

They don't provide any info on the default border (inner) size and 20 mm trim size seems way too big, that's a lot of extra stuff to draw if you go full bleed.

trying to go for an Inio Asano type panel layout (vertical full bleed only) and having some doubts :P

Anybody has any extra info on that? thanks!

>>6518875
it's a bad show bro get over it

>>6521109
Pointless question because you're not going to actually make manga in this style.

>>6521418
I was considering studying it, but, thanks.

Anyone here use Deleter paper? How is it?

>>6521426
You're going to study naruto's art? Then why not, you know, the art in the actual comic instead of a handful of messy sketches?

>>6521431
Not good. Too thin and too small for my taste, definitely feels less substantial than American comic paper (which is usually Bristol board) and if you're importing it, not at all cheaper

>>6518989
>>6518990
On first glance the promo art is much better than the actual pages, I think you should work on closing that gap.

how large in pixels should pages be?

>>6521438
Because this doesn't look like the Naruto manga.

>>6521532
Reverse image search just brings up a bunch of Naruto shit, and it sure looks like a rough sketch version of Kishimoto's art.
Furthermore, what's the point of studying this specifically? It's certainly not readable enough for a comic. Study finished work, not rough doodles.

page 20

Where do you even start when trying to learn how to properly invent stories

>>6521109
Can work in the right narrative, I'd give it a shot.

>>6521852
If you have to ask then this shit might be too much for you. Not trying to put you down or anything, just letting you know how difficult it is.
My suggestion, just pull from your life and apply it in a story format. Have lessons you learned without hitting the reader over the head with it. Or just show things as they are and let people interpret it however.

>>6521191
Different printers have different margins, you’d have to buy tankobons from respective companies to compare the finish from cutting (how further in or out it is). It’s also possible that they just take individual pages before dropping them into the printing template if they want to print different formats e.g magazine or newspaper.

>>6521870
Thing is I got some partial ideas for a fantasy world-setting but I can't put it all together is the issue. I got specific scenes in my head but I'm missing connections and character personalities and depth to everything. The plot is linear and I got somewhat of an ending in sight as well but the rest is troubling..

>>6521549
>Reverse image search just brings up a bunch of Naruto shit

For me, it brought up a bunch of Kancolle shit. In fact, I can't find the sauce of this at all.

>what's the point of studying this specifically?
Because I like how it looks. It has energy the usual inked work doesn't.

>Study finished work, not rough doodles.
But finished work doesn't look like this.

>>6521991
>Because I like how it looks. It has energy the usual inked work doesn't.
>But finished work doesn't look like this.
Then I suppose you'll have to find a way to make it more readable without losing the energy you see in it. I think I'd find it tiresome to read after just a few chapters if the pages were roughly as readable as those sketches. Clarity is very, very important in comics.

>>6521459
I'm working on it bro, no worries.

is published manga the top 1% of art? I keep comparing myself to them and getting discouraged. Where do I find "smaller" manga, even if its not translated, exhentai?

>>6522284
1 in 100 can do it. But now you can tip the scales in your favor by learning every trick in the book about AI image generation as it emerges and get your stuff published on the grounds that it is first example actually viable AI made manga.

Probably not what you want, but it is an oportunity.

>>6522361
Fuck off pajeet

>>6522381
Cyberpunk Momotaro is a thing. Geriatric and sociopathic manageriat of big nip publishers are pushing for AI hard. As non japanese you will never get published in japan becasue there are 100 natives who want the same job as you and are slightly easier to deal with due to being citizens and native speakers. But if you show the AI "manga" that, unlike Cyberpunk Momotaro, looks almost like the real deal I guarantee you will be published.

Pajeets have no love for AI, but they see it as an oportunity to breach the glass ceiling. Sometimes you have to swallow your pride to get ahead in this dark world created by actively malicious Demiurge.

>>6521991
>I can’t find the sauce at all
That’s suzumesakiii. I can see it working in a webcomic style, but for a manga style it might be too unconventional and crowded.
https://www.instagram.com/suzumesakiii/?hl=en
https://twitter.com/suzumesakiii?s=21&t=9dW9gG0qi0nIA22hHB8Csw

Other then the guy that makes the celtic comic . Is anyone in ic making a long running series .

>>6522400
What part of fuck off don't you understand?
Go to >>>/biz/ if all you're concerned about is working for Shekelberg-san

I dont like manga, I dont read manga. (Only ever read one and that was HNK.) Truth be told, I think the Japanese are degenerates and are just horny edgelords who tell morally disgusting stories with nudity at every corner.

HOWEVER! I don't want to learn color which western comics requires so I have to study the japanese black/white/grey tone formula but I dont like reading manga...What do I do?

>>6522471
Yes, multiple people are. They (we) just aren't posting about it over and over.

>>6522502
Did it never occur to you that the japs aren't the only ones who do b&w comics?

>>6522507
Ive only ever read capeshit which is all colored. What comic is that?

>>6522511
Not him but its probably the one of the conan magazine comics.

>>6522511
>Ive only ever read capeshit

>>6505883
That man speak truth

>>6522506
Can you shill yours ?

>>6522567
I don't manage the social media for it, I just draw it, and I don't want to accidentally invite some schizo to start spamming my boss about how I'm a nazi pedophile on a site for racists or whatever by linking it here. Sorry anon.

>>6522502
>He doesn't know

almost there

>>6522808
is this a wojak reference?

>>6522825
no

The /mmg/ thread is getting slower. A year ago there was more stuff posted. What happened?

>>6522960
If I ever get big I don’t want my stuff associated with this site. Manga takes too long and takes too much effort for me to throw it away on a site like this.

>>6522583
>>6522966
do you guys really fear 4chan that much?

>>6523155
I wouldn't care if it was entirely my own comic or if I was the one running the social media, but there's simply no need to invite fuckery when there's nothing to gain for doing so. I've seen more than a few completely deranged schizos in the many years I've been on 4chan, so the caution isn't unwarranted.

>>6523155
Not those guys but it’s not so much about being scared I think after some time I just couldn’t find any reason to pmw on /ic/ anymore or anywhere really.

>>6523176
This, really. After a certain skill level, all you'll find here is crabs with nothing useful to say one way or the other, and then it just becomes shilling yourself, which is pretty stupid here.

Does anyone know a good place to find onomatopoeias in japanese?

>>6523184
It’s not so much level but self-assessment. I still post once every few months if I’m really desperate for advice and can’t find any reference to look to but at some point you can already know most of what you need to improve simply by looking at art better than yours and comparing the two. Other than that, I haven’t been serious about drawing like I used to, still like to improve my craft but I don’t really care as much anymore.

>>6523169
>>6523155

True.
Retards that are afraid of sjws or whatever new /pol boogeyman comes up with forget that this is a place full of highly deranged psychos that'll try to fuck with you for no reason whatsoever. You're most likely to get fucked over by a schizo 4chaner than some random twitter dumdum.

>excited to finally make a comic
>plan everything out
>learned enough anatomy to make it passable
>have interesting characters that i know how to draw
>calculate how long each page will take and how many hours total
>all I have to do....
>is just start drawing...
>been a month and still haven't started

nobody told me I had to fucking draw for hours. What the fuck. How do you make endless pointless drawing fun, since I really wouldn't have achieved anything until its all done. Like one panel by itself has no value, so its a waste of time technically

>>6523316
You're an idea guy. If you don't enjoy the act of drawing in itself, you are not an artist.

>>6523316
For me it’s the striving to get better than motivates me to draw comics, each time finishing each panel thinking “I could do this better by changing this or that.” For me treating each panel as a part of the whole has helped me a lot in finding value. But I agree comics is very time-consuming which is a huge drawback and writing written word, though not necessarily easier, is much faster than drawing specially if you want to detail your comic. I often find myself debating if I should just compromise quality so I can go on to other projects or spend a day’s worth on one page to render it out as much as possible.

>>6523316
Doodle storyboards and let assistant (or SD if your doodles are high quality) finish it for you.

Do you guys have any walkthroughs to start studying it? What books should I begin with, etc?

>>6523316
Don't get into comics if you're not willing to draw for hours on end every day. They're all passion projects in the West since the pay for them in Burgerland is shit. If you're lucky enough to hit big in Nipland and the royalties are enough to sustain you, you'll still be putting in at least 60 hours a week to keep up with the demanding schedule. I personally think more people should just stick to keeping manga stuff as a hobby through making doujinshi, etc. I see a similar thing in the animation industry where the fledgling storyboard artists all dream of being showrunners until they realize how it ages you 10 years running just one show and it ends up being more directing/admin work than actual writing or drawing.

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>>6521109
hell yea
t. messy drawer as well