/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>copying bonanza general
>nothing about what is being copied is ever applied to your own drawings from imagination

so how do you guys know if you are learning anything?

>>6497259
eh, copying art i like is just a warm-up exercise before a more serious drawing session. gets my hand moving and it's light and fun.

Fellas, my goal is to draw anime girls with detailed scenarios or artistic backgrounds, I already reached that goal. The problem is, I’m having a a hard time trying to stick an rendering style.
Should I even bother learning to render semi realistic styles like the ones on the left that AI can easily replicate and its everywhere on Artstation? Or should I go with an unique kirky style like the ones on the right that relies on hatching textures and heavy uses of black? Panpanya (bottom right) and some earlier works of Sousou (top right) are my favorite artists.

>>6497329
Pyw.

>>6497259
by drawing from imagination sometimes. i do the draw a box thing, 50% study, 50% draw for fun.

Which color picker to choose?

Practice from imagination. Can I make a picture in CSP darker like with Photoshop adjustment layers?

>>6497259
You keep making this excuse but never post your work. Why is that?

>>6497259
I'll do it for you anon just wait

>still giving (You)s to that faggot

>>6496901

drawing like this feels like the hardest thing ever, even though it looks simple. Why are the lines amateurish but in all the right places? Every detail is clear and each character has gesture somehow. There's also depth in the picture and a story being told, but the lines are just shitty doodle lines that dont have any varying thickness. What the fuck? How the fuck can I learn to draw messy like this but it looks amazing? I'm spending hours constructing heads and painstakingly making each bang of hair taper perfectly.

>>6497451
>turn off pressure-size
>profit

What brushes am I supposed to use?

>>6497329
AI can do both of those. Its up to you to make your art distinct.

My art is generic, but I'm improving.

what are the ASG fundies for someone who has never drawn anything but wants to draw anime only

>>6497733
Trace a lot, then train to imagine what you trace a lot, then trace what you imagine a lot

>>6497744
but if i know nothing, what will i learn by tracing?

>>6497773
u will learn tracing then u can trace nothing.

>>6497597
Your art is stylish.

My pieces have no creativity in them, I find it hard to be creative, it doesn't come to me naturally. How do I grind this?

>>6498121
post work nigger

Is there a way to set borders for coloring in lines or do people just do it carefully manually?

>>6498296
different people have different techniques.
some people trace along the outline of the character and then bucket fill inside, some people use the lasso fill tool, some people just color inside the lines clean up the edges. once you have flat color laid down you can lock transparency or use clipping layers to shade/add detail/whatever else. there are tons of tutorials on this online

>>6497259
This dude is right. /asg/ is cope central. You people will never actually complete an original piece.

>>6498329
Damn who hurt you so bad to make an assumption as baseless as yours? With that attitude you definitely won’t pass permabeg.

>>6497451
How is that impressive? You can give stick figures gesture. Go back to fundies.

>>6497351
last two are my favorite

>>6497351
First one. Easier to shade

Krenz Courses
>ctrl alt t to expand all
https://asgg.notion.site/Krenz-238090f8a5934eb883fc644bef1d1214

>>6496901
>>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
I don't know how to do that

I'm a total beg, if DrawAbox is shit (did like the first exercises or something), should I go for pic related or something? I need the most basic fundies, like construction and whatever, I don't even know how to sketch

>>6498142
This took me 1 day to draw and 13 days of generating ideas and looking for references

>>6498142
This took me 1 day to draw and 13 days of brainstorming ideas and looking for references.

>>6499247
this is what I use AI for, a glorified reference generator

>>6499252
I didn't use AI for this, I worded that post badly.

>>6499258
I know I'm saying you should, you'll get all the ref you ever need in 1 hour not 13 days

just sketch some crappy construction, lay some flat colors and do img2img and itll give you ideas of how to finish it

>>6499169
hey, im the dude who made that pic you posted. The first step is perfect everyone should do it, but for step 2 you should read loomis books like drawing the head and hands and figure drawing for all its worth, then force. Study these along witg real life subjects to improve

>>6499251
Stop it dude. Just make fanart and literally pick a nice pose reference lmao.

>>6499303
Is it really how everyone else does it? Just go grab a model from pinterest or some porn shoot for coom and paint over it?

>>6499313
I have seen so many hentai art referencing jav porn particularly Shion utsunomiya’s sideway sex scene in one of her earlier jav videos. They just slightly change the perspective and pose then flipping the reference lmao.

Anyone have any good refs of the rear view of a character kissing? I’m trying to draw things at odd angles

>>6499325
I don't want to spend night after night watching porn, do they just pick a few and watch fast forward and choose some scenes to use?

>>6499387
Anon is trying to convey that there are no rules just tools, but I recommend you just find your own process. I wouldn't want to my brain to exposed to 3DPD porn on a daily basis either, regardless of how convenient it may be for someone else.

>>6499390
Thanks, I think I am reaching a point where this process for getting started is becoming a bigger blocker than actually drawing

>>6499399
this is why people do requests

To the anon in the anime loomis head thread the other day who told me my head was missing the second volume, thank you. You have fundimentally changed the way i draw anime heads.

>>6499416
explain

>>6497351
2nd is the standard one for everything I've ever used I don't see a reason to change it photoshop sai and csp have it

>if I wasn't such a tired mediocre person
>I could help everyone here learn to draw
sorry guys I often type something out to help someone and then don't bother finishing the post

>>6499436
pyw, maybe is not even worth it

>>6499431
So the other day an op had a thread about what loomis would think of the anime head. All posters told him the head fell into the loomis structure. I laughed about how the thread just turned into shitting on op for not getting it and someone told me to post anime head which i did.
Then an anon told me the head was missing the second volume (the one in the back of the head) i told them i usually just filled it out with hair, and after further examination they were right.
Anime heads are significantly larger than what i was doing previously which kind of cut off at where the hairline is. You could prob go into the archive and find it. When i get home i will post a before after img.

>>6499438
Yeah share context when possible, thanks.

>>6499401
I will check out the request/drawfag thread on /a/ for the time being then.

>>6499169
>I'm a total beg,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw

he will answer all your questions

>>6499438
>>6499453
>https://archived.moe/ic/thread/6494385
I think that's the thread

>>6499438
Never needed loomis to draw anime heads. You guys are retards falling for begtraps in /beg/. Just jump straight to copying hampton and vilppu then learn to exaggerate the proportions kek.

>>6499485
pyw

>>6499277
>then force
sorry what's that?

>>6499453

>>6499482
That is indeed the thread.

here is a quick shitty drawing of what i mean , the cranium is much bigger than what i originally thought . i figured this out by looking at the op image and basing it on what the anon had said.

>>6499485
i just think about it in the way loomis explains it i dont actually line out everything the way he does it lol.

now if only i could figure out a good way to do that pesky side head without it looking like shit.

>>6499526
sorry for the samefag but i think it should actually a be a bit higher than what i drew it there but you get the idea.

so to >>6494684 thanks anon.

I have these settings on my canvas, sometimes when I start drawing a line, I notice a micro lag that lasts like less than a second, why could it be? I have a gtx 3060 12gb if it matters and a Wacom 22hd

>>6499566
also I'm using 25 g-pen size, otherwise it's too small

>copy the artist you like!
Well, my favorite artist is an AI-diffused style.
What now?

>>6499582
In both cases it ask the artist to think, something you're unable to do, sorry.

>>6499642
Can you repeat that in English?

Which artist is considered technically good and has wide gallery of poses? I'm not looking for eye candy, I want actual material to learn from.

>>6499658
yoh yoshinari's sketchbooks are probably what you are looking for. probably in the /ic/ torrent. probably lmao

>>6499645
Congratulation for spotting a missing letter, perhaps it's not over for you after all and you may be able to trace over AI.

>>6499658
wide?

I tried rendering. I tried to stop being scared of making mistakes and just did whatever for the background.

experimenting w/ textures and colors, i think it turned out alright, but a little messy and aimless

>>6499853
looks good but give her nail polish anon, white or black nail polish NOW

tips on coloring and clothing pwetty pwease

>>6499864
It looks cool and the hands/skull look especially nice, but I'll admit the head feels extremely flat.
Maybe you can improve that by tweaking the lighting.

>>6499582
You're just like me fr

>>6499853
Why did you completley ignore the anon from last thread who did a total redraw of your linework? Not only did you incoporate the idea he had for varying lineart, you still didn't fix the face or the perspective of the image

>>6499890
>>/lsg/
*sigh*
who do all most of the people who draw well here have some kind of mental illness like pedophilia.....

>>6499980
the good artists without mental illness aren't posting on a pedo filled website for some pretty obvious reasons

>>6499864
I'll help you with your colors anon if I finish my work today. Is this one of those Traptrix monster girls from yugioh? She looks familiar

Is there a comprehensive picture of all anime expressions even the very low level of detail stylized ones

>>6499980
I just think she's cute and seemed fun to draw, it's possible to appreciate a design without getting cumbrained over it.

>>6499699
Thanks! I will look him up.

>>6499702
I thought the word works for the context.
I suppose you're recommending namaniku atk, right? Thanks.

>>6499980
lsg are easier to draw and render because of the simple anatomy.

do you anons ever have days were you simultaneously want to draw weebshit but not people?

>>6499980
What's wrong with pedophilia anon

My screen got fucked up and I don't have the time to fix it T_T

>>6500129
draw asian girls

>>6499998
yep, traptrix atrax! ty
>>6499905
you think so? i tend to oversimplify faces a bit when drawing girls, but i wasn't sure how else to add depth with the lighting. outline the bridge of the nose and have it cast a shadow on one side? i'll keep it in mind

>>6499986
yeah, they're flipping burgers lmao

>>6499980
Not a mental illness, a way of life.
also she doesn't look that young anyway

How long did this take Yoh Yoshinari to draw?

>>6490897
Dunno, but I have a question: Did it help you learn to draw besides the color stuff?

Do you guys think the Anatomy and Perspective is correct? Also, any suggestions to make this illustration a bit more interesting? Im trying to draw a trendy character from Chainsaw Man Asa

>>6500788
mb, posted the full image. Here same file, better view

>>6500451
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-0aucD8By0&ab_channel=TRIGGERChannel
Don't compare yourself with pros, it's pointless, focus on getting better first

>>6500801
foreshortening on the foot is wrong. the calf looks too small as well

>>6499890
that nape/neck area looks ugly when left bald like that, theres hair there even when the gril has short hair,the bells are clipping throufgh her skull, post the ref, otherwise those balls are gonna be as big as her head, and the eyes are a bit too close altough that might be your styyyle, hair is not oriented with the head.

>>6500813
The nape and neck area shouldn't be bald but OP drew it that way because he didn't really understand what part of the head he was drawing.

Are there other places (I mean, something outside 4chan) to share and discuss anime style, and maybe even receive critics or something?

Is Pixiv or Twitter useful? How do Japanese people do it? are they all Lonewolfs?

>>6499974
Because I wanted to see what my lines look like with color, also that feels like cheating, I will try incorporating it into the next piece.

>>6500841
unironically FB or discord hosted by pros (thinking of yasuo muroi or takuji miyamoto server's)
but they have deadlines to keep up or else you'll be kicked

>>6500813
Thanks for the tips! As for the bells, I drew them based off of her character art. They aren't on the side of her head, they're behind it. Though you're right that I could have moved them to the side a bit more. It's not the same head position at all and like >>6500827 said I was just kinda fucking around doing whatever felt right.

Do you have any tips on the coloring and clothing? I'm not confident in either of those two things and could use some pointers if you have the wisdom.

>>6500279
use a dark canvas?

>>6500940
I have to go back to facebook groups man, the community is normalfqg but funnier and healthier than 4chan lel, sometimes I feel they actually enjoy anime way more than /a/

anyway, is there a specific fc group you would rec? I don't really use discord

>>6501019
Nah, it's a faulty cable that makes the screen look green but I need to go repair it and haven't got the time

>>6500801
the perspective of the grids doesnt match the one in the body, just eye ball that shit.

WIP inspired by another thread

I’m trying to do a retro 90s thing. Does the face look ok? I feel like the eyes are not in the right position and the face profile needs to be adjusted

>>6501341
Sorry here’s the ref

>>6500598
It's like anime figures, helps with overall body shape and proportions but doesn't help with anatomy.

>>6500333
aight this is taking too long, have to work on my stuff now. i think u made atrax too saturated and different of a hue, you should try and desaturate it and then put saturation in specific spots

Tried lineart again. Is it getting better than this >>6499853. Please disregard subject matter I know its retarded.

Tried lineart again. Is it getting better than this >>6499853 (You). Please disregard subject matter I know its retarded.

Made a fix.

>>6501730
Uninteresting. Show both butts and have them look at you, the viewer.

>>6501768
Just realised there's nowhere for the eyes to focus except for the pigs face, guess I'll trash this one.

>>6501293
is she gonna fuck the pig before butchering it or what is the angle here

>>6500810
So he actually draws a lot of lines

>>6501817
I don't know, I just copied a real life reference and added some expressions for fun and it started to look dumb instead.

>>6501451
the color palette was supposed to be trippy, but yeah, i guess in some way all that orange made it somehow more boring than what you did here with the hues on the skin. this is just incredible, thank you!

>>6501451
>'fix' is to put it in the goyslop generator

>>6502328
Arms got babier

>>6501346
I mean it would probably helped if you looked at actual retro anime. This is a edited Voltron screenshot done by some tumblrite.

>>6502328
tits aren't aligned with the body

>>6502501
Kill yourself false flagging AI faggot.

I was studying some of Tamifull's and Minjye's art today (mostly the face, eyes, and hair) and this is what I ended up with. Used my vamp OC.

>>6502995
oooffffff

>>6503023
What you mean? is that bad?

>>6502995
arms look too short and the ass looks to be a bit "droopy" from this angle

>>6503030
he was prob conceptualizing the aroma

>>6496901
Hello, is there anything that I can improve here? Thank you!

Slightly different approach. In the morning I took about 5 minutes to memorize the picture on the left. I focused on the most important parts: composition, proportions, shapes hierarchy.

Then 12h later or so I tried to recreate what I could recall.

>>6504210
That face is pretty unappealing

>>6496901
Tips for getting references?? I struggle a lot when I want to start drawing a character, I feel I don't have enough references for either the character itself or the poses w/e. What is your workflow for getting good material? I thought about just taking my own screenshots or somethin for the character, but for poses it's more complicated, I'm too beg to reference anything outside 2D or to properly use the 3D poses in CSP

>>6504210
I like this idea a lot, but changing the face so much killed the appeal of the picture

>>6504210
Under these circumstances you had to fuck up the intersection between the thighs and stockings. You committed a crime. Kys.

How do I convert left into right?

>>6496901
Since there is no CSP assets sharing thread I'll ask here. Please, anon-sama, buy and share this asset...
https://assets.clip-studio.com/ja-jp/detail?id=1923110

>>6505529
holy shit you cant draw fucking hands ngmi

>>6505532
not my problem

>>6505529
If you're going to beg for hand assets, at least ask for these ones.

https://twitter.com/shio_mid/status/1621418212993687552

This guy has a pack with all different hands on booth as well.

>>6505529
Just wait for one of those festivals that give out fucktons of clippy points simply for logging in to Clip Stidio and get it, lmao.

>>6502937
Same artist study, I wanted to focus on portrait a little so I did a close up today

>>6502937
>>6506585
could you show the references?

favorite youtube channels?

Anyone else really impressinoable? Like I'll read a Jojo volume because I dont remeber something and then for the next 3 days everything has block noses and big lips. Or like today I was looking at Buu saga Toriyama for fun and when I was drawing I noticed everyone had thick necks.
Also for the past week everyone I've drawn has looked evil. Works for some characters I'm designing but not everyone.

>>6506593
I mostly referenced these images for style purpose. I have lost the pose references I used though sadly. Today's definitely deviated from what I wanted lineart wise.

>>6500014
Not for you, sport.

>>6502553
Looked at a few other profile shots, honestly couldn't see anything far removed from the edited one I posted. Anyway this is almost done I'm more interested in improving above anything else so what are some things I can take away from this turd?

>>6506796
Unironically give up

>>6507486
Why what's wrong with it

>>6506796
unironically keep it up king

>>6496901
Does anyobe has "Seiichi Nakamura's It's Fun to Draw People!" books translated?

I am getting worse.

>>6505204
Get a posable figure. Not the shitty meme wooden artist ones, but a blank anime one.

>>6508069
>but a blank anime one.
What do you mean? a figma or what?
I do have a couple anime figures and they could be good ref material

>>6506594
hide channel is all you need
actually taught by a guy who's working in anime industry as an animation director and animator, not just some random a dime a dozen illustrator.

>>6508407
Actually true, his channel was small but now rather large, there's another channel similar to it called private anime art academy or something that had a facebook group for crits, what was that called again? I'll try some of those mentorships and paid feedbacks for a couple months and let you lads know how it goes0p

studying a bit of cell shading

>>6508058
Yes. Those armpits are embarrassing you have to render them more carefully at the end if you want that effect. The stupid vagina armpits are not connected properly to the body and you just look retarded. Your art isn't bad you can do better than this.

>>6496901
>Draw something to completion
>Heh, doesn't look awful
>Come here to post progress, see the work of others immediately bail on the idea of posting work

>>6508631
Dude just copy lmao.

Do we have this content somewhere?

https://krenzcushart.gumroad.com

>>6508407
are they really good? what playlist would you rec?

>>6509176
im sloppy

>>6509390
didnt mean to reply

/asg/, what do you personally consider to the best book for drawing anime heads?

>>6509631
Nothing teaches you to draw anime heads better than observing and studying artists you like.

>>6509657
I don't disagree - and I am working to break down and study artists I'm fond of. At the same time, I don't think it's a bad idea to take a look at how to guides (and I've already started looking at Loomis and such).

>>6509631
Hampton. If you can't infer an anime head using hampton then work on your observation skills aka IQ.

>>6503577
No, It's perfect!

>>6496901
Can I get some pointers?

>>6509782
Eyes are not looking into the same direction.

>>6509715
Thank you!

Copied a Ranko at work

Also unrelated Ebisu

>>6509851
>>6509852
nice suzu

>>6505481
know colour theory

>>6509680
>baiting people into learning real proportions instead of anime

>>6509782
doesnt look animu enouggh

>>6510336
Krenz’ style was partly influenced by hampton. I am merely suggesting what worked for me and others before me circa 2016. You must be one of those faggots from back then who thinks redrawing previous work years later is considered improvement. Lmao, where did all that drawing from your limited imagination take you mikufag?

>>6509782
it looks cute, but it somehow has an air of the woman version of feelsguy

>>6506603
blog?

>>6496901
I want to draw anime girls in jail context, am I weird?

>>6510673
Ur asking that when there's pedo and furry porn posted on this board.

>>6508497
anime shijuku or アニメ私塾 (shijuku means private school)
https://twitter.com/animesijyuku

This one is also run by veteran animator Yasuo Muroi, he started his career in anime industry by joining Studio Ghibli in early 2000s, it was a bad moment because by the time he joined some of veteran Ghibli-trained animators had already left the studio, like Kenichi Konishi, Masashi Ando and Kenichi Yoshida. Konishi and Ando left Ghibli to work with director like Satoshi Kon, while Yoshida became attached to Eureka Seven.

Anyway, Yasuo Muroi stayed as in-betweener at Ghibli working on outsourced projects and then left as a freelancer. He did eventually climb the ranks as an animator to animation director, and then storyboarder and episode director. To be honest, he isn't a prolific animator, or a genius one like Masashi Ando. But he's a hard worker and his lessons are suited for people like him who started from zero.

>>6510755
NTA but damn that website and stuff seems kind of a mess, would it really work out for foreigners?

I saw he has some books published, did you read them? are they good/even translated?

What should I focus on when it comes to rendering?
I always feel aimless when I have the inks and flats done and I think I'm probably comfort-zoning with cell shading.

>>6510036
how do i learn to draw eyes like this?

What are the best books to use to learn anime if you're beg.

>>6510780
do not call me retard bit lighting feels disjointed directionless and semi random. But I like the girl/ and i'm a bit light fetishist.
Not sure about far knee , isnt it supposed to be rotated/ aligned a bit different, maybe I'm dumb.

what are some good anime artist that use lower head to body ratios? i'm looking for artists that use 6 heads or more for their figures. Someone like Spacezin, for example.
Anyone else know any others?

>>6509851
>>6509852
good
good

>>6510775
Someone on /artbook/ thread uses OCR and AI to translate the book recently (in the past 1-2 years), check artbook thread, ask for link for the translation for this book
"jukuryuu-saisoku-de-egakeru-you-ni-naru-kyara-sakuga-no-gijutsu"
https://archived.moe/ic/search/text/saisoku/

>would it really work out for foreigners
Man, the way anime industry works nowadays, they will accept anyone who can draw. Seriously.

These are my advice if you want to get into anime industry:
>Go watch Shirobako
>Grab The Animator's Survival Kit
it's intended for western animation, but you'll learn a lot by understanding the principles of animation.
>Watch these youtube channels
- Dong Chang
- Tonari Animation (a lot of know-how, anime 101 like what are storyboards, timesheets, how do you draw layouts, how to do cleanup, inbetween etc)
- Studio Bulldog
- YenBM
- World Anime Networks
- Desuran/ですらん (Keisuke Kojima)
- アニメ私塾 (Yasuo Muroi)
- hide channel【顔と体の描き方講座】for composition, pose, anatomy, fundamentals of drawing which is necessary for animation

Look up for keywords like: 作画タイムシート
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-aPPX_rJZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBEvDfjeLF4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBsvTdxwM6Q

>You also need to read many books on perspective, do croquis, etc.

>Most importantly get friends who have same interest in animation. Join sakugafoundry/Tonari Animation discord. This is a group of foreign artists and anime fans who learned animation from zero, they build community around anime production, some of their members are already assisting anime production as animators/cleanup artists/inbetweeners.

>Go make a twitter account and follow a lot of japanese animators and production assistants

>>6509852
this is manga tier, well done

>>6510950
>books to use to learn anime
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
here
やさしい人物画

>>6510950
this one is really good too

>>6511462
>>6511466
are they translated to english tho? just looking at pictures would be pointless without understanding the text

>>6511479
>are they translated to english tho?
MY FUCKING SIDES LMAO!!!!!!!!!
WEEBS NGMI

>>6511525

>>6511479
they're trolling you hard dude

>>6511479
Bwo...

>>6511673
nice

Why doesn't more people here follow in >>6511673 footsteps and make any effort to adopt an art style instead of copying pics 1:1. He's only of the few anon from asg that iapplied what he studied to his art.

Just a heads up but the post above me can be reported under the category of "Community drama/vendetta" or "instigating a flamewar"

Just so you know, I might or might not have reported it under those categories myself

>>6511725
tanks
>>6511763
Well i was copying fkey pics 1:1 it's just i only focused on his works instead of copying random artworks of random artists and i also used his pieces as reference when i was doing my own art
atm i switched to other artists like karma621 and possum but i still do quick sketch studies of fkey

>>6511263
Thanks a ton dude, I'm still a turbobeg and was just asking but I'll save all that for later as I would really like to do some short animations

>>6511763
Ok mikufaggot

>>6511763
He is talented, so his efforts are rewarded. We cannot follow genetically privileged people.

>>6511830
>talent
lol i've probably spent more hours drawing this week than you did for the past month but yeah keep coping

>>6511830
this, it's over, I'm gonna masturbate and play Euro truck

>>6511838
>i've probably spent more hours drawing this week
do you drawfull time no job?

>>6511844
no i work full time plus study at uni
it's not consuming that much time but still
it's just i choose to sleep less and don't play vidiya much
i draw for 3-5 hours daily sometimes more

>>6511844
>draws for more than 1 hour
>n-no job?

>>6511848
nice, I'm going to start uni soon and afraid of not having the time, but yeah guess I'll just cut down games and internet garbage. I don't even browse 4chan as much I used to thankgod

>>6511852
>1 hour
that's nothing, when I start to draw, I usually spend like 5/6 hours until I finish, that's why I'm afraid of starting uni

>>6511852
>>6511853
>>6511855
Let's see the drawings you've made with all the time you've had thus far, you fair gentlemen

>>6511869
no. leave me alone

so im new here and im wondering if thats how studying works, because i feel kinda guilty for copying someone
https://files.catbox.moe/bu6i5q.png
mine is obviously the left one

>>6511968
Most glaring mistake is the waist

>>6512023
too high?

>>6510939
I'm bad at drawing eyes, that's why I study some of my favourite artists trying to figure out how they do it.
Maybe it will help you to do the same.

I had my reference on my other monitor which has less saturation and contrast, question is how do I know which one is more accurate?
Also, how are you supposed to copy someone else's rendering if you don't know if they used any layer trickery or filters or something?

>>6511763
He literally copied pics 1:1 what are you talking???????????

is copying anime really making me a better artist?

>>6512451
No, fundies do https://twitter.com/cyjalway?s=21&t=lBc-vLL__6cTJpJmBJGV8A

drawing vchuba

>>6499169
id just download Peter Han Dynamic Sketching to supplement/replace Step 1, or even Bert Dodson Keys to Drawing as Step 0
i never did Stonehouse, but it might be a bit too intensive for this stage instead of Loomis, Hampton or Bridgman
do lots of drawing ideally from life but photograph is OK, geometric shapes, fruits, bottles, plants, birds, etc. then humans
never did vilppu, idk how good he is. personally id replace this with Marco Bucci 10 Minutes Series, Gurney Color + Light, Richard Schmid Alla Prima
*obviously final step is personal preference for what you want, but a lot of "how to draw anime" books/yt vids are really bad,
anime settei can be bad too for diff reasons (made for TV production so that animators can do the thousands of frames / episode quickly), use it for reference on how to draw a character more than your benchmark style. obviously this varies depending on how good the show production and char designers are
yoh yoshinari artbooks are crack though, download as many of those are you can

>>6511820
Morpho books are really good too, try it, I think if you've gotten used to drawing you'll find it super helpful.

>>6512455
What about copying with fundies?

why are they like this

damn

I colored my xiangling and pig...

Is this considered chicken scratching?

>>6512764
No

>>6512800
It looks messy but I don't understand how it works

>>6512811
It does, but it's clearly not chicken scratching.

This drives me crazy, how do they know where to break the line? Is there some kind of rule to it? Or it doesn't even matter?
Thing is, I noticed, when all your lines are connected it looks kinda soulless, even with varied lineweight

>>6512667
its possible to find a midpoint, a good exercise is to draw a shape and then figure out the underlying anatomy, krenz sometimes does this
you can try drawing a random squiggle and building out a line of action / silhouette from that
https://twitter.com/shiningpp/status/1622971411995451396?s=20&t=sdK4DI1ghHSoUaXnz1MKlw
this is also why usually you want your gesture to be very strong since its likely going to lose "energy" as it becomes more concrete

>>6513004
you get better at it with time, i wouldnt worry about deliberately practicing it

>>6513004
They just do it. Stop overthinking. There are no rules.

is there any good 3d software in which you can pose easily and the models are good?

Sometimes I wonder how much I can push my luck with the mentality "it's ok to draw like shit, horny people in the internet will always pay money anyway for any type of boobs"

Take a luck at one of the most selled eroge games on dlsite and tell me your thoughts:
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ318368.html/?locale=en_US

>>6513227
take a look*

>>6513046
koikatsu?

>>6513036
>https://twitter.com/shiningpp/status/1622971411995451396?s=20&t=sdK4DI1ghHSoUaXnz1MKlw
Damn, Chinese are absolutely mogging everyone even Japanese themselves

How do they do it?

>>6513230
ill try thanks

>>6513234
Koikatsu has studio mode where you can set up whatever you want

>>6513231
They're a hivemind. They share literally everything. Learning Chinese is worth it for the art community and resources alone.

>>6513231
probably by actually practicing desu

>>6511673

>>6513288
Anon-kun, post the furry on the furries containment thread and the loli on lolicon containment thread.

I tried copying the picture, but the ref seems off for some reason, as if breasts were in wrong perspective. Tried to replicate the pose in DesignDoll and it seems to be a case, but I feel like I'm going schizo at this point.
Could someone tell me what's up?

>>6513292
Nah to much hustle splitting these shitty sketches just to post on 4chan
I rather stick to posting in whatever somewhat relatable thread i see first rather than cutting every single sketch to post in different threads

>>6513231
There is more of them.

>>6513004
Lmao some faggot will redline this and think the artist is plain wrong. You do not want to be that faggot so just fucking draw and stop asking for critique for the slightest possible mistake you have.

>>6513004
just feel lol

>>6513440
>grids
anon...

>>6513441
not him but whats wrong with grids

test

>>6513441
Sorry are those grids bad?

>>6511462
anon you're actually spot on this one believe it or not, a couple of weeks ago I went to an art stream Houtengeki did on Twitch and asked him using google translate "sensei, What's your favorite book on learning how to draw" and he literally replied me "やさしい人物画". If the dude who makes smoking hot ultra thicc egyptian waifus says so, it's legit shit for me

>>6513469
Forgot to clarify, that book is just Loomis Figure Drawing for all its worth, translated to japanese though.

>>6513286
right...

>>6513004
A lot of it is just carry over from the limitations of traditional mediums. If you do a bit of lining with pens you'll get a feel for whats comfortable and it just feels better to end lines like this then to try and make complicated sharp curves with a pen.
They aren't actively deciding to end the lines to make the best line art they are just conditioned to do it this way. You can use it as a technique to show form and light, look up lost edges.

>>6513469
What a waste of a question. Books really don't matter too much in the long run. That's why everyone gives the same generic answers.

do you guys have any references pdfs and stuff i can download and access offline?

Is there a good resource on how to learn to pick colors?

>>6513495
Then what type of question would be better to ask him while he's doing an art stream? a roadmap? pretty hard to write during a stream, could've asked if he did coloso courses or something in the line but I doubt he'll answer that one....

>>6513299
Left breast should be where the right breast is

damn, why is everything in >>>/a/248705121 better than this thread

>>6513856
I wonder same. Maybe many of them are actual artists, maybe it's the passion. Many of those look amateurish yet so good.

>>6513856
>>6513860
Because they aren't afraid to make mistakes, they're there to have fun, fuck /ic/ crab mentality man.

>>6496901
All mega links from the OP are dead btw.

>>6513856
they love their wife thats why

>>6513892
>>6513860
>>6513856
>>6513997

Why are you faggots associating /beg/shit to passion? Is this some form of self-inflicted crabbing? Is this really what you faggots aspire to be? Damn, I'm sorry you guys have to stay in your hugbox for 10 years without improving.

How to create hairstyles that are not garbo? I feel like I don't even know any good hairstyles

>>6514076
Watch more anime and copy more

>>6513731
I suspected so, thanks.
Guess I will start using real-life photos as gesture ref. It's a coin-flip with anime drawings.

>>6514048
>/beg/shit
lol, everything there looks way better

>>6514185
damn even this looks great

>>6514185
>1. it does not
>2. they are posting finished works and we are posting progress, studies, sketches etc.
Now back to your crab hole ngmi

>>6514252
> they are posting finished works
>>6514187
>>6514178
Oh no no no, /asg/sisters…

does anyone know what tool i can use to change the color of my lineart in clip studio? ive seen videos of people just making a new layer and brushing over the lines and it changes the color without coloring the white parts.

>>6514252
>1. it does not
it does
>2. they are posting finished works and we are posting progress, studies, sketches etc.
yeah nah, I meant in the board in general + we also post finished works here

this was the crab hole all along...

>>6512667
this is also true if u go overboard with stylization.

Please help, I'm trying to learn to hide method of constructing but one side of the face always goes to shit, this one is about to fail, what should I fix to make sure the balance is correct?

>>6514937
Study dynamic sketching by peter han. Download blender and get a 3d anime head. Trace the forms. Done.

>>6514937
DAB

>>6514974
Nice to know I'm still symbol drawing after 3 years, I'm ngmi, couldn't understand dab no matter how hard I tried

>>6515002
>3 years

>>6515005
I'm starting to have doubts whether I can pull this art stuff off...

>>6515002
It's okay anon. Know that there are people in this very board who have been symbol drawing for a decade longer than you.

I can't into spheres

>>6515059
Looks useable to me.

>>6515002
Have u read perspective made easy?

>>6515002
Learn perspective, draw still life objects in real life. You're not going to grasp depth if you just look at anime bimbos

>>6515089
I found another guy with my exact same problem, funny that.
>>6515092
>>6515100
I have studied it, I can draw boxes with all the perspective lines mapped out but can't freehand for shit. Guess it is back to shape grinding hell again

How important is it for an artist to be able to eyeball things and make accurate estimates, I spent close to an hour constructing this sphere because I can't draw spheres

>>6515148
I correction, it's not spheres I mean I can't visualise the axes and ellipses which fucks over any sort of head construction I try to do.

>>6515184
>>6515148
>>6515002
>>6514937

>>6515148
>>6515129
>>6515059
/asg/ does it again

>>6514937
I recommend doing something really basic which is studying round objects around your house (cups, jars, whatever) and drawing them because what this anon says >>6514974
is that you have no idea wtf a curve is you draw everything flat

>>6515059
>>6515148
if you look at >>6514974
the spheres are actually not very accurate, but it's still enough to set up the orientation of the features and some foreshortening.
look how rough minimaru's construction is: https://youtu.be/-m0qnJmR4YY?t=352

i agree with >>6515100
>>6515227 it might be good to try drawing some simple 3d objects from life.

>>6515129
Whats this image from?

I used a tennis ball for reference and tried again...

>>6515445
Dude just take the hampton pill already.

>tfw half of the references I use these days are from my own previous works
have I made it

>>6515589
no you've stagnated

I'm looking for good references on doing interesting hentai faces, but nos just simple "ahegao", I'm trying to express/convey sexual satisfaction or feeling really good, like a :o face or the pic I use

>>6515445
You obviously don't know the planes of the face, you don't need a surgeon type of knowledge but just enough for you to know where is everything orientated at least, and you work from there to more specific aspects of the face. still major symbol drawings in your heads, drop the memeball thats for day 1 begs, and if you are one you shouldn't be stylizing , remember, know the rules before breaking them, go learn basic head/face anatomy and then you modify it to fit your style of choice.

Is Mignon translated yet?

>>6514341
redrew my drawing

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>>6516244
>>6516244

>>6511479
holy kek