/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

burst

>>6500316
Thread prompt, draw this cat!

Draw this.

>everyone does digital
So anyway, here’s my watercolor bullshit

>>6500336
Hang yourself

>>6500340
Thank you for the critique

/int/s, how long did it take for you to comfortably draw gesture?

from old thread
>>6500223
>Sure, let me dox myself by reposting art hashes that /ic/ has seen before
>Dox myself
>On a board not many frequent
>With no one would ever fucking figure out who a litteral nobody is unless you stole weed or some shit
I have so many questions but something tells me to just ignore at this point. Have a skeleton man.

>>6500365
3 years

what do you think of it so far?

do you have any tips for drawing faces from memory? specific faces of real people, that is

>>6500416
If you know the skull by heart, you can start to pick up specific features and add them on top of the skull tou know.

>>6500416
draw those specific faces a lot

>>6500344
are those supposed to be frog eggs

Before I worked on my current sketch,this was what I was working on.

>>6500439
what if I can't get it right?

>>6500411
well it's a drawing. The perspective is off, the guys eyes should be lowered or the other guys should be higher. The coloring is not bad thought.

>>6500469
then how are you going to do it from memory?

practice

>>6500466
why though

little doodle

>>6500647

It was for a doujin I am working on cause Xenogears has little content amongst the fan sphere.

i love being dominated by men

>>6500689
gay

>>6500689
:(

Need some advice. I'm not used doing flat shadows, I never know where to place them.

Where do you guys think I should place the shadows?

Here is another update of my pic.

I don't know what to do with the empty space or whether who else to scrub from this pic.

Does this face look ok?

>>6500933
just search for obstetric care unit references, put an incubator for that abomination.

I'm still alive. This is all I have the energy to draw. They got me coming in early and working monster hours. One of my coworkers is sick, but he might be coming back so I'll have time to draw again, but I got so much to do.
It's not very good, but I can't be bothered to try any harder right now. This is just so I'm doing something, even if it's half assed.

>>6500675
Very cute.

>>6500930
It's easier to place light than shadow. Try placing a shadow opacity layer over the whole figure and carving out where the light hits.

>>6500316

Why would a robot care about covering an empty eye socket?

drawing people in clothes is a whole different thing and it makes the drawing much more interesting for some reason
I wish to get good at this

>>6500930
>Where do you guys think
I can come up with something but how it supposed to help? Even if I'm correct at my guess you still have no idea

>>6500336

Horizon is almost in the very middle and that makes it boring as shit.

>>6501005
so shit doesn't get in and fuck with it's circuits duh

>>6501007
The shadow isn't as hard cut as you're making it out to be. The shadows will be more diffuse if the casting object is future away. The hand is dar so the edges would be softer unless it's a spotlight shining on him. But you don't need to be 100% accurate on where you're placing the shadows, look at some pictures of cell shaded figures and get an idea of how they draw shadows and where.

>>6501044
This is my goal, what did you do to get this far in construction

>>6501047

Have you not read ANY figure drawing books?

Are there any discord groups y'all can recommend? I am a specialised one but it's only got like 20 people in it with no plans to expand

>>6501049
Fine jeez

>>6501047
>>6501047
those are gesture practices

>what did you do to get this far in construction

draw spheres, boxes, cylinderes, carve, crack and break them and attach them to each other, draw rice bags stretching, twisting and being squished. once you get somewhat good at that, choose a basic figure drawing book and copy it entirely (hampton and morpho is what I used). draw those dolls on top of pictures and also draw them by eye measuring. try to have fun while doing all that by using your creativity and don't sob when it doesnt look amazing, just keep doing it and it will improve

How long should I be practicing gesture drawings before I move on to the next section in Vilppu's Drawing Manual?

>>6501064
move on

>>6501068
I do them for maybe an hour each day, and have been practicing for maybe 5 days. Is that enough? I still worry about their quality, but I'm always critical of myself anyway so I pay that little mind.

>>6501070
move on, you can always go back

>>6501076
Ah, well, that makes sense. I was a little surprised when you put it so bluntly, but I guess you're right. Better to keep it interesting than to stay in what is boring but comfortable.

Painting continued: >>6493612
36" x 48" Acrylic

>>6501094

Don't like drawing toes? Left shoulder looks odd, like it's at a different angle and detached from the torso.

>>6501099
It's a 1:1 match to the photo.
I wish the original photo didn't crop out the feet, I like feet.

>>6501106
I don't like the background, the cabinet is too distracting I like the left leg i can feel the resistance of moving forward.

So I made an incubator as well as an EKG meter or whatever it is called to track Elly's heart rate. The electrodes on her belly is also something I added.

bros i just realised now i fucked up the skull

Hello beg. My blending is primitive and basically i am stupid.

>>6501202
anon i have to ask: how many more times will you post the same picture? And as some anon pointed out, her left tit is behind belly and right one isnt. And you graciously ignored the feedback and keep posting it. What is your plan?
>>6501094
i kneel tradchad. Btw why are you using the net/mesh of squares? Does your ref also have that net of squares for accuracy or is there some secret art tech behind it?
>>6501055
neobeg https://discord.gg/u55pBHqm
>>6500963
the middle one is build like absolute unit lmao
>>6500836
coom
>>6500336
digital is kinda easier, cheaper and more comfortable. for example we dont breathe in cancer inducing toluene/acetone and dont have to clean brushes. Pic looks okay but its boring. Its like you drew perfect background but somehow forgot to put in the idea / soul. Like if there was tank, anime thot or some grand building it would be better.
>>6501231
anon dont worry, its anime. Anime doesnt obey anatomy or sometimes even perspective. She looks okay.

>>6501250

Okay. How am I supposed to draw Elly's tits? I am trying to draw the definitive version of this pic and just make it pass to where I can work on my doujin. This pic is the cornerstone of it all. The key scene that the story is based off of.

>>6501250

With everything going on in that picture, the tits are what you pick up on? The tits are in perspective, relative to the belly.

>>6501295

THANK YOU!!!!

Like I have been telling the Nigger Faggot from the last board who as giving me nothing but insults. I still dunno what I can do with the pic about composition.

>>6501298

The doctor guys are little squished, like their arms arms aren't foreshortened properly.

i have brain cancer

im not good at this

>>6501316
I also like water, wow we have so many shared interests! We should be friends!

>>6501508
Liar.

>>6501094
>>6501106
these are good. I can't really offer critique besides that the photos themselves aren't great. they're a little washed out so it's hard to make out the contrast.

At work doing nothing again. Can't get myself to start drawing.

>>6501510
drop your discord tag

>>6501316
>i have brain cancer
please tell me you're joking. it's not funny

Been a while since I've been in here, hope yall don't mind if I cross-post my goth boy

>>6501316
very funny/nice drawing, anon. Although I do hope you're okay
>>6501508
Looking nice, although you may want to try a different brush specifically for that pear and don't be afraid to take your time with it.

Been a while since I've been in here, hope yall don't mind if I cross-post my goth boy
(reposting, forgot to resize)
>>6501316
very funny/nice drawing, anon. Although I do hope you're okay
>>6501508
Looking nice, although you may want to try a different brush specifically for that pear and don't be afraid to take your time with it.

>>6501295
Are you just now realizing this pavell faggot doesn't know what he's talking about

>>6501556
>>6501582
I was joking, as in i have brain cancer to redraw an abstrack wojak as my muscle girl oc

warumu appu

So do I throw my (zero experience) self at doing studies for a month, then tackle fundies, or do I do both at the same time? I feel like doing studies without any knowledge of fundamentals will just create bad habits.

>>6501598
drawing along with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLla6YLcSRw

>>6501602
Fundies inform your studies inform your finished pieces. The "optimal balance" is going to depend on the individual. Spend about half the time drawing whatever the hell you want. Get your fundies to a place where you can do studies of better artists. Study those artists and then use your memory to try to create a piece on your own. Compare and hone in on your mistakes.

>>6501602
Just start.

>>6500316
turbo beg drawing but it's more digestible than what I used to do, m gonna read keys to drawing

>>6501627
flip the canvas more

>>6501598
Did you quit Bridgman?

/beg/ but i tried to improve her design from the last time

I don't even want to improve anymore, I just want to get over my mental block about drawing.

>>6501598
No, I post them in /msg/

>>6501582
Shooting that bird

>>6501653
Draw any amount, everyday. No amount is too small, as long as you do it.

could anyone please share vilppus books? theyre in none of the pastebins in the share thread

>>6501656
meant for >>6501639

Here is an update.

Character from a story I'm writing

Do the mods draw? You think they are good artists?

>>6501835
Blog? I love this

does the shading make sense so far? i'm just doing random shit

>>6501886
>whole front is shaded
I guess it's... alright, but why would you choose that composition. It looks like your anime-guy is fighting your chosen framing rather than benefitting

If you just meant it to be a study though, "go anon, go!" lol

>>6501895
Idk should the front not be shaded? I just looked at other artists and was kinda copying what they did without really understanding. Also it's supposed to be a girl lol

>>6501908
>supposed to be a girl
Full disclosure, I do meme watercolor landscapes rather than anything like this. I feel like a fully shaded guy is like evil or something, but he looks cheerful here. It doesn't really follow to me.

>>6501886
it mostly /beg/ 2d light but it's normal and looks fine

>>6501508
that onion slice is low effort

>>6501598
Are they meant to look kind of robot-like, or is that just due to construction?
That's a genuine question, I really like your drawings.

>>6502293

The poses are all pretty static. Needs more curve and twist..

>>6502303
For me it's just how far apart the legs are, and same for the shoulders.
It makes the figures look a bit like Samus from Metroid. Again, not in a bad way

Hello beg,

Here's some lay ins of a Bargue Plate I'm working on

Keys to Drawin. "Standing Figure". This is my worst work yet. I decided to try to rush it, because I usually take ~5+ hours to finish one exercise and I actually don't have that much time to draw, because I'm a full time salaryman. So this took about 2 hours top. It's really jarring to look at my work and reference side by side. I guess, the moral of the story is to not rush it.
But hey, the actual point of the exercise was to find the mid point and draw the figure filling the entire page, not too small, not too big and with accurate proportions, so I guess I somewhat succeeded. Well, I made her ass too big and her left side too low and her legs look really long, but it's not too bad for a turbobeg, right?
I'll just leave it as it is and try harder next exercise.

>>6502453
Figure drawing is extremely difficult, don't feel bad. You made her femurs too long, that's the major proportional error.

a roblox oc (not mine)

>>6502547

Is that done in Paint? You can really get better free stuff.

I drew the absolute madman :DD

>>6502453
like the other anon said her upper legs are too long
remember there are parts of the body that you can make longer without things looking super weird, like the lower legs for example or the neck

>>6502576
Anon it's time to draw something

>>6502576
i like the gesture

>>6502453

Did you even use any construction?

legit dont know how to have fun. at least 3d was fun from day 1


well torsos are kinda fun but i can't do that shit forever

I spent way too much time on this poster and haven't added the text yet i'm thinking of redoing the shadows on the building and making the windows spell out what i need them to

>>6502587
Verry cool that you're doing 3D and drawing

>>6502592
why does your square buildings have such soft edges

>>6502599
3d is probably more enjoyable because it does the perspective for you is my guess

>>6502600
the dark one is supposed to be kind of rounded out but thanks ill fix the light ones

>>6502587
in 3d you started with a project and end goal in mind with 2d you're drawing floating body parts like a retard

Any1 wanna shoot me in the face painting is too hard

>>6502633
yeah but i suck. im not ready for a goal yet

>>6502659
>waahh im not le ready yet im scared
eternal/beg/
you might as well just quit instead of wasting your time

>>6502656
looking kinda dapper nigga keep at it i belief in you dont be so hard on yourself

>>6502525
>>6502569
Thanks, I can see it now
>>6502585
Of course not, I have no idea how to construction yet

>>6501653
I had this for a while. Now it's gone after a year of drawing daily(almost). Now I have to get rid of not wanting to draw on weekends

>>6501850
>ywn get invited to the secret /ic/ mod discord server

>>6502576
FLY AWAY NOW

Holy shit, Villpu Drawing Manual goes from 0 to 100 real quick between sections 1 and 2. I don't think I can do this

Is it true that studying from female artists will rewire your brain and turn you into a faggot?

>>6502787
I dunno, but what manga is that?

Another failed attempt at drawing my waifu

>>6502793
Witch Hat Atelier

>>6502787
probably.

>>6502787
yes
this is also why I only jerk off to men don't want my brain to be rewired into a woman's

https://perchance.org/object

4 objects 4 minutes each

show me your results

Changed from skeleton to more human-like. Im quite happy with it, considering I havent really planned any of it

>>6502997
thanks ive been looking for something like this

>>6503003
i find it oddly soothing wouldnt mind if this happends to be death himself. cool

>>6503018
do it post results

>>6502903
arms need fit proportions better

>>6500316
Hello /beg/ & /int/ I'm new here! :)
I saw a frog image in a previous thread and decided to try drawing it as well. The thread's gone so I'm posting it here instead. :p
Rate my Frog pls!

Current progress.

>>6503109
This man take seriusly the now draw her giving birth.
Also, you are an int.

Hello beg, check out my tonk! Next chapter is introduction to figure drawing which is also last chapter of the book.

>>6503078
frog cute but you didnt use any dark value colors and as such it looks a bit uncanny. The general idea is that your pic should look good even when displayed as gray scale. Enjoy the stay.
>>6502805
see the reply above, same issue: didnt use full value range
>>6503047
is this from memory? i kneel
>>6503003
very spooky
>>6502903
>box-man
>cylinders and spheres
you failed
>>6502776
thats why you want to do some beg book first before you jump into the advanced books. These teachers are drawing for decades and teach mostly students who were filtered by school entrance exams. They cannot even imagine how nodraw and beg people are like
>>6502656
it is coming out nicely, just keep refining it
>>6502547
despite its simplicity i dig her!
>>6502453
dont rush anon! it is better to do one good pic in two sittings rather than 2 lmao ones
>>6501835
that hatching is like straight out of the old books of old masters. I kneel
>>6501711
4th result on qwant.com after i typed loomis books. Learn how to google anon!
https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/
>>6501602
i like how you mentally separated fundies and studies as if you can do one but not the other at the same time. Pick a beg book, read and draw. You can do it anon!
>>6501508
you are better at it than you think, just lazy with the details
>>6501295
the dude is drawing alien birth coom porn. Of course tits are important. In fact they are one of the most important part of the picture! If there is ONE thing coom artists need to master, its drawing perfect tits from any angle or situation!

>>6503156

I was doing this LONG before it became a meme. I drew the likes of Water Omotics and Soul Release giving birth way before I drew Elly from Xenogears giving birth.

>>6503194
his head is a box so he is box-man.

>>6500316
a cool discord for art improvement and critique
https://discord.gg/NW2YyTn5

>beginner-level artist
>want to show art piece that i’m really proud of to friend
>before i do, friend suddenly sends some of his own art (i didn’t know he was an artist) and his stuff is 1000x better than mine
I know I shouldn’t compare myself to others especially because I’m a beginner but god fucking damnit

>>6503247
i gotchu bro show em your art i bet he will like it

>>6503247
pyw

>>6501597
ok. good to hear lol
>>6501677
ANON NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (Saved btw. ty for the laughs and for drawing my boy)

I gave it a go.

how do i draw kino perspective like picrel?

>>6503299
I'm too drunk for this, good job

>>6503313
What do "viera tribe" and the crotch and thigh "W" mean?

>>6503328
study viera tribe art and how the ears connects to the head and and the w is cock and balls looks like a bulge

>>6500945
no, you drew the eye as it was in a front shot. eyes in side profile are closer to what a triangle looks like rather than an almond cause you can only see half of its length. find a reference and try again

>>6503299
>>6503313
Some fixes.

I think I’m starting to go mad. Whenever I look at a reference or an object in real life, I can easily see the negative space, outline of the object, and the spatial relationship between each part of the object and its surroundings, but when it comes time to draw it, my lines almost always fail to accurately capture what I see. For example, if I try to draw my hand, I can see the shape and every line/detail but when I put my pencil to paper, I immediately make a line that’s about 60% accurate to what I’m seeing, then the drawing ends up being about 40% accurate because I’m making the wrong kind of curve, line, sttoke compared to what I’m seeing, and I don’t know how to fix this. It’s maddening, because I can exactly see the line I need to fix but I can’t seem to translate it to paper.

>>6502259
yeahhhhh
>>6503194
>you are better at it than you think, just lazy with the details
thanks but i actually don't really know how i'm supposed to do details

>>6502683
>discord

>>6503194
>dark value colors
Yes I have trouble with coloring. With traditional media it often looks to light no matter how much I try to darken it :(
>The general idea is that your pic should look good even when displayed as gray scale.
I'll try to remember that :) Do you have any more tips on how to color better?
>Enjoy the stay.
Thank you I will! :>

>>6503367
>don't really know how i'm supposed to do details
being lazy with details is kind of a blessing imo. with painting, it's easy to get distracted by details before getting the big things right, e.g. proportion, value, etc. you seem to have a good start with getting the big things right. your studies look like good starter block-ins.

getting details right is hard, but if you're going for a painterly style (as opposed to atomic-level accuracy) I think you just have to pick out important details with hard edges and emphasize contrast until you think it sells. for example, the thin purple lines in the onion wedge where the skin forms layers, and the striations and variable translucency of the inner flesh.

>>6500336
something something ukraine, love watercolor though. In highschool I preferred it over acrylic or oil
>>6500344
cookie
>>6500411
what
>>6500466
horrifying
>>6500621
the spray paint tool or whatever you used for the water crashing looks out of place I think. try to go for something more solid, even if it ends up looking more blocky
>>6500632
post something finished
>>6500675
crocc
>>6500689
2006 myspace clipart
>>6500836
horrifying
>>6500930
When I have no idea or I'm too lazy I either do a top down shadow or I just pick a corner and work from the opposite end with dark. for my personally it's easy to start with darks and work to lights than vice versa
>>6500945
no
>>6500963
The one in the middle looks like every single softball player I've ever seen lmao
>>6501006
I like it so far, and as far as clothes go I either do the bare minimal or go out of my way to do something crazy like a big fur coat or something
>>6501044
nice poses!
>>6501094
>>6501106
this is great however if you're painting with a grid that is cringe and gay
>>6501231
I don't see how you can even tell to be honest
>>6501250
still life my beloved
>>6501316
that's rough buddy
>>6501508
you're doing great man, keep it up
>>6501582
admittedly at first viewing I thought it was a female, but I noticed the jaw before I noticed the chin hair
>>6501598
Vilppu?
>>6501627
what the other anon said flip your canvas more, I can tell you're drawing at an angle. Also don't be a pussy draw those hands
>>6501640
At this point I find it hard to give any advice. I could nitpick the anatomy but I don't think that's your main concern.
>>6501830
please stop posting this horrid picture
>>6501835
really dope, I wish I could line shade like that honestly
>>6501886
missing light on the back of the neck, and I assume you're far from done so I wont tell you where to put your shadows
>>6502377
hard to critique but nice block forms I guess

I'll post my work in the next one

Kinda upset that my last piece also had a rabbitboy at a profile but this was from just one of many little sketches i was working on.

>>6503454
No ref, faces I did while I was bored I think they're cool.

>>6503453
cont.
>>6502453
if you're taking 5 hours and end up with that as a result you're doing something really wrong. I don't think you used any construction either so I'd suggest starting from the beginning and work on gesture sketches. try not to focus on speed to much at the beginning but as you get the hang of it steadily increase your pace.
>>6502487
looks fine so far, I'll never understand people posting unfished sketches unless they're looking pointers on anatomy or whatever
>>6502547
ms paint, good control of shading though
>>6502566
madlad
>>6502576
cool panty. I like the pose too
>>6502587
it's not fun in the beginning when you have to force yourself to think in shapes rather than the image as a whole, but it'll get easier with time
>>6502592
hard to critique because it's not finished
>>6502656
always love tradchads, keep it up dude
>>6502805
the thing that jumps out at me from the beginning are the hands, they look a bit so small. I understand that anime grils have larger heads and smaller hands than normal, but the difference seems to much
>>6502844
is that digital? I can never get my pencil brushes to look that natural. anyway great work man
>>6502903
me when
>>6502905
I sorta dig this, honestly if you did nothing else to the drawing I think it stands out on it's own how it is now. cool stuff
>>6503003
another based tradchad
>>6503047
fantastic shapes man, you've got it down to a science
>>6503078
I like it, it's really chicken scratchy though, but that might be what you were going for, either way I'd say work on steading your hand
>>6503109
please god make it stop
>>6503299
I don't have much to add except try using fewer lines, and try to keep your line weight consistent
>>6503308
Scott Robertson's How to Draw is a good start, but it's very technical and will fry your brain quickly so digest it in pieces
>>6503327
cool forms, working through Hampton?

finally we come to mine. this is the first of anything I've drawn in 8 months, and it's not much

Been working on that texture lesson from drawabox

ok

maybe

>>6500316
Hey lads, what do you think of my comic?
Can I improve anything?

I can't fucking figure out Textures. It's rubbish but even when trying to find any said pattern and make it look how I want it just isn't happening. I can't think of how it should look.

>>6503484
I think they all look nice.
Did you flip your canvas though?

>>6503557
I don't get it.

>>6503592
Have you played Pokemon Scarlet/Violet?

If so, then for the context:
Geeta is taking Penny to do community-service doing computer-work because she illegally hacked into the school system.
She thinks she's being led to the computer room, but it's actually the generator room where she'll be doing physical labor instead.

>>6502293
It's chunners, I'm figuring out wide hips. I always try to do "too much" during my warm ups, because I can always dial it back and it makes mistakes more obvious.
>>6502303
I'm doing some simple mannequins and planting right now, not worried about gesture atm. Picrel is one of my more dynamic studies.
>>6503453
Nah, just following along with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLla6YLcSRw

>>6502293
It's chunners, I'm figuring out wide hips. I always try to do "too much" during my warm ups, because I can always dial it back and it makes mistakes more obvious.
>>6502303
I'm doing some simple mannequins and planting right now, not worried about gesture atm. Picrel is one of my more dynamic studies.
>>6503453
Nah, just following along with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLla6YLcSRw

any criticism for this wip

>>6503598
Oh, I see! It's like Conan on the Wheel of Pain. I misread the perspective panel 3 at first, thinking the wheel was small and sitting on a table or something, but that's actually two panels.

>Keep buying art supplies
>somehow not magically getting better at art
wtf?????

>>6503612
Are you using them?

>>6503612
It kind of works for me, since every time I buy art supplies I end up trying them at least once. Just gotta buy more.

>>6503611
>Conan on the Wheel of Pain
Yes, exactly like that :)
Maybe I should draw it with more levers or something to make it clearer... Because it DOES look confusing without any context at all.
Thank you for the feedback!

>>6503608
Looks wrong.

>>6502453
how did you end up with ocasio cortez

>>6503590
I've never flipped a canvas in all my life

>>6503608
The facial features are not aligned with the shape of the face.

This drawing was done after a good session of Scott Robertson brainwashing

>>6503721
Sweet.

>>6503478
Thank you. Your painting is excellent, I always forget how long the heads are for elves in elder scrolls.

>>6501872
Unfortunately this is pretty experimental and I mainly draw either furry stuff or stuff relating to this story so I dunno how much you'll actually be interested in my blog, but it's ScaredStoked on most platforms
>>6503194
>>6503453
Thanks guys. Here's an update.

>>6503337
I used a farm from a retro anime then tried to mimic the eye. Does this look any better?

>>6503821

Frame*

I hate absolutely everything about this piece. Can I get some critique or suggestions on how to fix it?

>>6503821
Cant tell if it's supposed to be in perfect profile or facing slightly away from the camera; since we can see a sliver of the back of the head.

>>6503845
Profile
I'm not sure what you mean by you see the back of the head. Her hair bleeds off screen, I guess I could crop it

>>6503844
tits too big. tumor on her arm.

would like to ask for some proportion critique

>>6503844
empathize with the subject, both poses look uncomfortable, when doing this the the girl usually end arching the back against the bed due to the pushing motion, also the pose doesn't give a sense of force. Overall it doesn't look erotic you can do way better with new pose .

>>6503866
Thanks for good advice! Would you also have a suggestion on line quality? I hate it.

>>6503488
Pick what?

>>6500381
>not many frequent
Who cares when /ic/ is a den of schizos that all drawfags frequent?

>>6501555
No, I'm too shy

>>6503853
>tits too big
Gay ass nigga

>>6503876
Low quality posts are against the rules, anon

>>6503047
Your figures are too stiff, have you considered doing more gestures and using the line of action more? I'm also not sure you added an extra random line the left oblique ton the 2nd figure from the left

>>6503873
what is it that you don't like? whats an line quality you like?

>>6503844
Both of them are lacking form, I think the pose is a really awkward angle to begin with because there's lots of distortion. You could exaggerate the size and position of her arm to try and foreshorten it more, and maybe soften areas like around her stomach since it's meant to be wrapping.
I don't think your line quality itself is that big of an issue, working in black and connecting all your lines just kind of highlights the areas that look off, but pushing your line weight more and making things closer appear darker and all that cant hurt. I agree that a much better pose would fix a lot of your problems, try and find ones that show most of the body from 3/4 views

>>6503891
You're right. Construction drawing kinda made me forget the gesture, I'll work on it.

>>6503866
The girls face should be proportioned differently

>>6503896
Dunno how to explain it. It feels like line weight is non existent. I'm pretty much answering my own question. But still thank you for advice!

>>6503898
I appreciate your advice! You said they are lacking form, you meant my shadows are not good, right?

>>6503902
You mean make her head smaller? I used face from manga as an reference

self-portrait

>>6503904
>I'm pretty much answering my own question.
sadly yeah this is something for your own, but there are things you can try:
use square brushes, dont use pressure from 0 to 100 instead 40 to 80% may give you way better control, add a pattern to the brush, drop the stabilizer, big gestures, etc.

>>6503844
I can't get the pog guy out of my head.

>>6503904
It's not something to do with shadows but thinking about what you're drawing in 3D space and what's going on with the parts that are out of view. Watch something like Vilppus drawing manual series if you aren't familiar with the idea

>>6503454
blog? that's awesome

>>6500316
the fuck?
Is CSP broken or something?
It takes forever to download something from the page.

>>6503909
Dope

how do i improve this ? i think the shadow looks good/decent but i think I'm doing something wrong with the light

>>6504013
more asymmetry, don't be afraid of straight lines, study bridgman figures. what I see
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I can finally see the fucking light at the end of the tunnel after wanting to kill myself three times already

>>6503928
Thank you!
Rubidium_Red on twitter
I don't have much yet because my last account was suspended for a long time.

>>6504020
me arrodillo, I'll try sagrada familia one day I swear, great work anon.

Where can I learn about joints? I mean, the limits of movement in the human's body. Like, how much you can turn your head and how other muscles are affected by it, or the limits of certain movements in the human body, and so on.

I want to know the extremes and when it is wrong/inhuman.

>>6503909
you look like rock lee

>>6504019
i was referring to the shading and lighting but that aside, is this better ?

I am reading keys to drawing. Look at this. The lines are messy, there are lots of restatements, there is barely any shading, the head lacks any features, the arm on the right is transparent, some lines don't even make sense, it looks like it can be drawn literally in 15 minutes. Yet, it still looks orders of magnitude better than anything I draw, even if I spend days on the drawing. How do I achieve this? What makes artists able to scribble for couple minutes and have a good looking result? How do I learn this power?

>>6504019
i was referring to the shading and lighting but that aside, is this better ?

Hilda smoking a thick fat joint

>>6504043
I know but with those shapes your render will look ballonish no matter what. Yes, thats better more readable.

>>6504030
i swear to god my friends also said that im gonna jump off of somewhere
>>6504021
np, cool stuff
>>6501627
based erika enjoyer
>>6503973
ty

>>6504042
Magic. Either that or literal decades of experience. Feel free to pick whichever lets you feel better about yourself.

>>6503909
Looks like 2D and Bruce Lee had an offspring, would date desu.

Tomorrow I'll start practicing for real. I might have said this a million times already, but this time I really mean it. Really.

>>6504073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhRXn2NRiWI

>>6504042
>How do I learn this power?
motor skills, both fine and gross something that most books don't mention but theres plenty in sports studies, do you feel in control when you draw at low speeds? and the other thing is understanding 3d form without drawing the whole thing. Of course it doesn't happens overnight

>>6504059
>im gonna jump off of somewhere
why ? rock lee is cool and handsome

>>6504042
Have a solid understanding of proportion and form. Need to do a lot of observational and life drawing.

>>6503909
what >>6504070 said

you are cute (reminds me of a sachiko kaneoya painting) but if the image is true to life then maybe just shape the eyebrows a little (to look less like rock lee lmao)

also nice painting skills keep up the good work

>>6503478
>is that digital? I can never get my pencil brushes to look that natural. anyway great work man
It is digital. I like using https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1869224 as soft pencil, but you may want something different for more defined lines.

>>6503883
Are you trying to announce a report?

>>6504112
sachiko is actually one of my biggest inspirations and i stole the skin colors from her lol
i really love how when she paints she still has that catoony look to her art so as someone who hates doing lineart and loves rendering, but also likes anime i think there's a lot i can learn, ty
>but if the image is true to life then maybe just shape the eyebrows a little (to look less like rock lee lmao
i was a little split between stylizing and staying true to the reference. if anything i ended up not making my eyebrows bushy enough but i'll take it in stride lol
>>6504070
i like gorillaz so ill take that as a compliment

>>6504240
>>6504070
>>6504112
>>>/soc/

Im looking to open commissions for the first time after about an 18 month break. My account has tripled in followers since then, and after putting out some feelers to gauge interest theres no way Id be able to cope with the number of requests im expecting.
How can you deal with taking commissions when its not a first-come-first-served basis? Can I ask people to submit their requests and then I choose what seems fun? Should I just raise my prices significantly to generate less interest? I really have no idea what I'm doing.

>>6504240
You're kinda sexy

>>6504259
I'm an IT consultant, I don't do art commissions (I think I will never do them), your work is scarce if you find yourself with too many bidders just raise prices its the responsible solution. A fun thing I would try but super risky is to set up an auction I see a shitfest.

>>6504259
maybe set a number of commission u'll take on a timely basis and see how many u can handle.

what do I do if im getting worse? these are the best circles i can draw now, i used to have much more control but now it feels like I forgot

>>6504295
u either persist like a chad or cry about it like tranny

>>6504295
are you drawing from your shouLder?

>>6504259
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCExC_uS-U0

>>6504295
Continue. Just do your best. You rarely need a perfect circle anyways.

>>6504343
no, it feels completely unnatural to draw like that.

>>6503694
which features

>>6504295
thats only 12 circles, it wont do a dime. If you are interested this is what I'm doing, I'm seeing great results in my line quality both in fast and slow traces, on digital and trad.

Motor skills comes down to accuracy and speed, from research it shows that the acquisition of motor skill is almost independent of age the only thing that changes movement top speed on the movement, so you will never be too old to improve, but it takes daily sessions for 10 weeks to cement the pattern in your muscle memory (this is from some boxing studies).

So... I use this template to trace the first time use a stop watch to time how much it takes to trace 5 times each figure, then use that time race against in coming sessions. Every movement comes from the should, elbow and wrist never fingers. Use the same zoom % through out the session I use 37.3% zoom and brush at 4px without pressure sensitivity.

I started timing 22 min now after 10 days I'm at 10 min while retaining the same accuracy or better than the first time. You will feel a flare in under your scapula due to weak and dumb muscles, after a few sessions you will feel nothing.

>>6504383
Box the head for me.

>>6504353
draw a circle and consciously make sure you dont move your wrist
then try again and make sure you move neither your wrist or your elbow
at that point youre just drawing with your shoulder. Its a lot easier to make nice curves and circles once you practice drawing like this a little

picrel isnt anything amazing, but the top right circles were done with my wrist, and the bottom right four were done with my shoulder

>>6504386
Do you actually draw? Or do you just grind shapes?

>>6501598
Yours unironically looks better than McBurnie's, good job that Bridgman study is working out.

>>6504395
this is literally warmup for me, I doing bridgman atm, and if I weren't, it would be a problem?

I hate hard workers, if you are a hard worker fuck you, die.

>>6504013
>>6504043
how do i improve the shading ?

>>6504401
It's just weird backwards priorities. Begs being so laser focused on line quality.

>>6504430
Where does the light come from.

>>6503454
Great hand. Chunky.

>>6504430
the light source is a bit ambiguous so it feels directionless
use larger swatches of your darker colors, atm they're mostly concentrated along the edges which doesn't add anything
the lines make it look muddy/too sinew-y, try and separate the muscles just by shading and then add some fine lines to accentuate the volume if needed

>>6504432
I don't know its funny only on drawing and plastic arts I've seen a total disregard on motor drills, in any other activities like sports, music, etc there is an emphasis on proper form and locomotion development I'm just using whats been useful in other activities on my drawing skills. Its an investment of 15 minutes with high ROI at best, warm up at worst.

>>6504451
Why stop at 15 mins when you can do it for 8 hours straight, and do a whole months worth in a day?

>>6504438
Is this sarcasm?

>>6504474
diminishing returns, progress isn't linear when you rest your nervous system is doing tons of stuff. The good thing is that the fastest/efficient path isn't linear either.

>>6504475
nayrt but it looks good and it ties in with the rest of the style in an appealing way

>>6504434
haven't thought of that actually
>>6504445
tried that but i think it looks worse. i might have done it wrong.
>ps.there's only one sun/light source i just drew 3 so that i can keep in mind that it's far

soul / soul
amirite?

Continued. >>6501094

I finished it. 13 hour day again, but my co-worker got his doctor's approval to come back so I can go back to drawing (and sleeping) next week. So fucking tired. I'm actually going to try next week. I'll try to post something good.

>>6504551
Camera Raw contrast edit to compensate for low quality phone pic.

>>6504551
Bro what is that foot

>>6504573
I'm assuming that you're combining the left leg that's behind it with the right foot because the color values are very similar. I'll darken the left leg for sake of clarity later.
Note: The legs are colored differently from the rest of the body because of the shiny stockings she's wearing.

>>6504475
Nah honestly, it has a nice full form and you can really feel the 3Dness of it

>>6504587
Im not combining anything. That foot is goofy.

>>6504657
We will consider your opinion for the next time, feet lover anon.

>>6504657
Well, I can't really do much about that because I'm not gonna deviate from the reference photo.

>>6504671
>I'm not gonna deviate from the reference photo.
why are tards like this

>>6504671
That looks nothing like what you produced

started a class :)

>>6504756
those figures look oddly familiar, good job anon

>>6504764
are you in my class......

and ngl i've been getting deja vu drawing these..

>>6503906
tracing over so strictly is a bad idea when you're tracing from a shit artist like fuji

Hi beg. This book explains the gesture in very clear way and even tells you why to bother with it. I like this book. It managed to explain purpose of gesture in 1 page of text while Nicolaides spent whole fucking book talking about it but never really explaining it. And as a bonus his recc gesture style isnt crazy scribbling!

>>6504756
i wish you endurance and gains!
>>6504569
other anons are right, the way you drew that end of stocking is horrific. It looks like her leg is rotting away or that its gash there. Paint it over so the pantyhose extends all the way to the cloth.
>>6504526
its cute but not good/bad enough for soul rating i am afraid
>>6504259
i recommend this algorithm halving intervals. Example: price=100$. If you are getting too little comms then lower it to 50$. If you are afterwards getting too many then raise it to 75$. Like this you will reach "optimum" in least amount of steps.
>>6504042
the answer wont please you: you are looking at raw skill difference between beg and pro who is drawing for decades. I suggest you to copy all drawings in the Keys to Drawing. Thats what i did and it helps demystifying the pieces somewhat.
>>6504020
god dammit i kneel
>>6503865
looks okay to me
>>6503721
i hate to be that guy but... wouldnt it be easier to use cylinders and spheres instead of boxes?
>>6503585
the pattern has to follow the form. Your patterns are flat and breaking the illusion of rounded surface. If you struggle with this stuff i suggest Keys to Drawing. There are two relevant chapters about it. Textures and Form
>>6503557
Comic is about balancing output pages/day and the story telling. You kinda want to post link to whole chapter if anyone is to actually rate it. I rate the art as the bare minimum to pass for normies aka not bad, not good.
>>6503363
you level up observation and eye-hand coordination skills separately. You simply got better at seeing but now your hand lags behind with drawing. Gotta draw more to level up the hand!

notanatomy

>>6504807
nah all fatties are the same and generic staff model.

>>6504486
>>6504638
Thank you

>>6504865
>white highlight only on the boob
>none on the arm
why ? isn't it supposed to be on both ?

>>6504992
do you want people to look at the boob or the arm

>>6504992
maybe. there was highlights evriwherer at some point but I don't liked it . And what he said.

>>6504967
Weird style

>>6503478
>chicken scratchy
It wasn't my intention lel, I was trying to do my frog drawing as fast as I could so I could finish it and turn it in to the thread instead of trying to draw it as accurately as possible and giving up halfway.
>work on steading your hand
Will do Anon (>w<)7

>>6504838
>i hate to be that guy but... wouldnt it be easier to use cylinders and spheres instead of boxes?
nta, not really if you use cylinders you will be losing 1 dimension of information (cylinder = height, radius and angle; you are replacing one of the dimensions for an angle roughly speaking) this one of the reasons many drawn faces feel flat they are thinking as a cylinder which makes 3d harder , on the other side with a box you have a well define x,y,z space you can carve into the box more easily.

tl;dr the brain process information more easily with boxes (cartesian system) than cylinders (polar system)

Hi beg, I'm tired of drawing anime girls so am just doing something else for a change.

>>6504555
Based for doing this while also working man.
Respect.

NEW THREAD
>>6505193
>>6505193
>>6505193

>>6504240
>sachiko is actually one of my biggest inspirations
I see! Well you're doing a pretty good job!
also cute forget what I said about the eyebrows + look forward to more work

>>6504838
>You kinda want to post link to whole chapter
Thanks, well sorry, it's not really a comic, it's more of a 4koma, a 4-panel comic.
So what you see, IS the whole chapter.

What’s wrong with my drawing? I don’t know how to shade, just randomly tried