/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Some western / indie publishers of Manga:

Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )
> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up
> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.
> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.

Noir Caesar ( https://www.noircaesar.com/ )
> Focuses on black (specifically African-American) content, but seems willing to publish anyone good enough.
> Seemingly series-based only.
> No "magazine" style updates; series are updated on their own schedule.
> Seems less regular than Saturday AM, but also seems larger in terms of readership.

Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )
> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.

Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )
> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.
> Seemingly taking submissions at present if http://www.antarctic-press.com/html/submissions.php is anything to go on.

Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )
> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.
> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.
> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to yenpress@yenpress.com, however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.

Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )
> *The* western manga publisher.
> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.
> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.
> Still might be worth a shot anyway.

Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )
> Small indie manga publisher
> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes
> Allows crossposting to other sites

Other open comic publishers:

Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )
>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.
>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.

Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )
>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.
>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.

Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )
>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.

Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )
>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faq

Top Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )
>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).

Additional publisher lists:
> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/
> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/

And a new addition, platforms to host your manga:

>Manga Plus Creators by Shueisha
https://medibang.com/mpc/

>Webtoons
https://www.webtoons.com/en/

>Tapas
https://tapas.io

>ComicFury
https://comicfury.com

>GlobalComix
https://globalcomix.com

>Medibang
https://medibang.com

>Pixiv
https://www.pixiv.net/en/

>Mangadex
https://mangadex.org

>Twitter
https://twitter.com

>Tumblr
https://www.tumblr.com

>DeviantArt
https://www.deviantart.com

>Your own website

Current Contests:

Silent Manga Audition: https://www.manga-audition.com/sma19-overflowing-tears-silent-manga-audition/

Magic international manga contest: https://www.shibuya-productions.com/en/magic/magic-international-manga-contest.html,73

4-koma Contest:
https://kitakyushu-mangataisho.com/en/

/mmg/'s very own anon-led anthology: /ic/onography
https://discord.gg/QYnFBves7V
https://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9

How (You) can help /mmg/:

> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.
> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.
> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.
> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effortposts that help you for posterity.

OP image is from the one shot Nude Model by Yamaguchi Tsubasa. You can read it here: https://mangadex.org/title/991ec991-e215-4508-ac72-9156b70813b3/nude-model

>>6478307
Thank you for this. Didn’t know some of these existed.

I haven't been reading these threads lately, but do anybody talk about first pages, words, and chapter? I feel that i'm little stuck trying to rewrite and how to start again, so a little chat about that would be more productive than what i'm doing

>>6478368
If your stuck, it's most likely you have no idea what you want to really make.

>>6478314
surprisingly gay.

>>6478307
Thank you so much for this

>>6478452
yet much straighter than anything you'll ever create lmao

>>6478368
Here's my tip: Come back to it later. Skip to page 2, get the events going, leave page 1 blank. Storyboard the rest of the chapter then come back to chapter 1. Just have some vague idea and move on for now.

>>6478368
I recommend giving a check on the /tg/'s worldbuilding general and on /lit/'s writing general. Just don't say it's a manga, tell them it's a setting/novel and they will help you out.

I guess l'll ask again in this thread. Does anyone have an example of an object out of focus in manga? Without the use of a digital blur tool. And I don't mean motion blur which search results tend to give me, I already know how to use lines to depict motion. But I don't know how to depict something stationary that's close enough to the eye that it's out of focus, in inks or screen tone.
My last resort will be digging through random shoujo romance mangas until I find something like that.

>>6478746
like this? Usually blurs are done with hatching

>>6478746
Murata's great at this

>>6478746
You said you knew how to do it in action, but I don't think it's any different for action vs stationary

>>6478746
sorry for spamming. your question intrigued me

>>6478746

>>6478746
i feel like what you're asking for is impossible, actually. Nobody wants to make something out of focus

>>6478746
I know what you're talking about but I can't remember any specific examples I can point to. Best I can do is try to do a quick example myself.
>>6478753
>>6478755
>without the use of the digital blur tool
>>6478757
>>6478760
>>6478761
That's not what he's talking about. Think of depth-of-field in movies: the camera is focusing on something in the mid-ground, foreground objects are out of focus. He's asking how to achieve that effect with line, not with digital blur effects.

Is there a book/guide/video on how to ink with a g-pen? for example how to hold, techniques, line quality, when to decide to break a big line in to small parts or in one go. Anything?

>>6478753
>>6478755
>>6478763
These are in some form of motion which I have a pretty solid grasp on.
>>6478757
>>6478760
>>6478761
These are a little better but they don't quite convey the blurriness I'm thinking of. Thanks anyway for trying to help, it's a head scratcher.
>>6478765
Yeah you get what I'm saying, kind of like your sketch but I think there's more use of screentone in the rare instances I've seen it. That is if I'm not just constructing fake memories in my head, maybe it's actually impossible to do. I just can't visualize the method to accomplish it, I really need to see some professional technique and hoped this thread would make it easier than digging through a hundred shoujo mangas.

>>6478776
Maybe like this? It looked weird without the deep shadow. Dunno if quick bash-ups are going to be very help to be honest, but they don't take much time to try.

>>6478765
>>6478776
I also tried my hand at it. I've seen an example in manga, but perhaps i just wasn't paying attention.

>>6478783
This looks good too.

>>6478783
This looks more accurate to what I'm remembering.
>>6478792
This one's well drawn but it's still very defined, and seems to convey something like the shadow that covers someone when they're being aloof or super serious. I'm looking for something like say, blurred edges of figures in a crowd partly covering the focal point. A foreground you aren't really meant to focus on

>>6478746
I immediately thought of how it was done in Eyeshield 21 with crosshatched lines/edges

>>6478746
Read Fujimoto's Look Back oneshot, there are multiple places where he does it subtly

>>6478814
Nice one, thats a really interesting way to do it. It doesn't really stylistically appeal to me but it's a great example I could experiment with
>>6478816
This is good like the above example but since it uses just horizontal lines, im worried that comes across a bit too much like motion blur

>>6478821

>>6478865
I made this quickly, sorry if the wording is a bit weird.

You reckon this pen is usable?

>>6478865
>>6478867
I got it, thanks anon. I've been skimming different styles and genres of manga since my first post, and along with this image it seems most mangaka also reduce the detail of anything that's super close up. Or the closer to the "lens" an environment gets the less detail it has. Maybe all these tips together I can make what I was imagining.

>>6478886
looks nice

Are there some materials on speech bubbles that you anons recommend?

>>6478775
Arthur Guptill

>>6478990
Drawing them yourself.

I posted in the last thread, heres the new page of my manga, comic, whatever.

I've been reading webtoons to get an idea of how they're structured but I have no idea which ones are good and which ones are bad. It all just looks like shit to me, but that might be my lack of taste for the format.

>>6479173
Read Hellper. Best webtoon I had read. Don’t bother with the westoid shit, only the Korean ones are worth reading.

Is it even possible to make a living with comics? Is this a pipe dream? Should I go back to college and do something else?

>>6479531
Possible? Absolutely.
Feasible? Not really.
Reliable? Absolutely not.

Never rely on a creative endeavour as a primary source of income, especially one that is inherently out of the public eye. Always have a craft or skillset you use as your job, because you'll never be want for job openings. I personally trained to join the managerial staff of a store, which pays better than you'd think even if it really does feel like an entry level job.

Stupid question I know but what's more efficient when making a comic: doing all the pencil pages first and inking after, or doing pencils and inking per page?

>try to draw my comic in simple lines and shapes
>always blow every panel the fuck out with detail and shading and full bg

>>6479665
Depends, which is always the answer you want to hear. I prefer to do pencils and inking per page, because it allows me to spice up the type of work I'm doing rather than going through long streaks of pencil then ink.

>>6478746
light broken lines, or flat values, no detail, that ez

>>6479665
For me, I am most productive when I do a big batch of pages assembly line style-I pencil 10-20 pages, then ink, then do shading and effects, then letters.
Inking takes the longest for me. I'm trying to work on making my pencils clean enough that I can skip the inking step but I'm a ways away from that.

>>6479670
Yeah I do that as well.
I always think that the reader will look at every panel the same way I do, when that's not even close to the truth.
The average reader will maybe spend 1-2 seconds looking at a single panel.
Obviously, really big panels or something like a 2 page spread will get more attention from the reader but for a normal panel, detail isn't needed.
Also you get a much bigger 'wow'-effect when your normal panels have little detail and look simple and then your big and important panels are full of detail and shading etc.

When I read manga/comics I sometimes spend more time looking at the speech bubbles and reading the dialogue compared to looking at the characters, let alone the backgrounds of each panel.

But I get it. You want to go all out and show what you're capable of, even in normal, boring panels.
Restraining your power level and knowing when to go all out takes practice and skill.

>>6479808
Man, how does he do those value effects? I've always wanted to make art like that, it's what I aspire to, but I could never figure out the tools.

>>6479822
First you need to obtain supreme knowledge and understanding of how light works.

>>6479831
Got it.
Now back to tools. Does he use a paint brush or something? I know a lot of artists use bizarre types of pens I've never heard of. What's up with that very slight grainy effect? How can I replicate that? I don't believe my software has it built in. I'm looking for a better alternative, but I'm a basic bitch freeware user who uses backwards ass Japanese software I got recommended like five years ago.

>>6479839
If you understand the basics of light, you can use several different tools either digital or trad to achieve this effect. You can't just skip through the basics and expect to be able to draw like this because you're using the exact CSP brush.

>>6479531
It's possible. I'm doing right now. That said, it took me almost 9 years to get to this point, and the money isn't very good. This isn't an industry you get into to get rich, sadly.

>>6479665
Depends entirely on you.

>>6479822
>>6479839
His assistants tone it digitally.
>What's up with that very slight grainy effect?
Noise screentone in CSP.

I was wrong about Fujimoto using some blurred noise tone, turns out it was just the English mangaplus pages being lowres.

The ES version shows that it's just small dot tones.

>>6479949
This is what it looks like in English.
But the blurry noise tone I got from another anon here is actually pretty cool so I might keep using it regardless

I really want to start drawing my webcomic idea but man there's just so much shit that goes into drawing a comic, it's overwhelming. I don't even know where to start. How do mangaka/comic artists do it?

>>6480371
Throwing shit at the wall and working with what sticks.

>>6480382
yeah. it helps to have some idea of what you're doing though and not just doing random shit.

>>6479159
working on my the next page of this, here is part 1 , the thumbnail

>>6480766
and here is the pencils

>>6480767
heh, and here is the pencils...
probably will ink it later today

>>6478292
The MANBEN mega is not working anymore.

>>6478292
Do wester / manga contest aimed at western participants allow you to use a pseudonym or nickname for your entry?
Imagine making it and not being able to use one to maintain anonymity like most authors in japan do

>>6481327
Well no contest is going to accept "problematic" material anyway, I'm not sure what the point of a pen name is unless you are doing something you don't want to be associated with...

>>6481393
Isn't the author from Tokyo Ghoul using a pen name tho?
I just like the idea of pen names being available to authors regardless.

>>6481327
Most western comic creators use pen names too, like Chip Zdarsky for example.

>>6478292
did this today

Are there any books (or videos, articles, whatever) about comic making you guys would recommend aside from the ones in the OP?

>>6478292

>>6481639
I do, but I don’t want to share them with you as it would only create more competition

>>6481729
Not That Anon but this is a brainrot opinion. People can read multiple freely-provided webcomics at once.

I'm so overwhelmed I don't know where to start

>>6480371
99% of comics is monster of the week.
Make a monster, and have your hero fight them. Be it a city destroyer, or some asshole customer.

Is manga still made traditionally or is it all digital nowadays?

>>6482030
The answer is both.

>>6478746
unironically read guptill. he covers all this shit.
when working w/ ink this is just about using edges value & texture. that's how you convey a soft focus effect with line. practice this by doing irl still lifes and then experiment on different layers with different edge technique to shift the focal point.
also look at people like franklin booth and zorn's etchings. they figured out how to do a lot of fancy effects in monochrome

>>6482038
That's good, then the tools will be available for a while.

>>6479949
>>6479950
you are retarded, he uses CSP like all of us.

>>6482215
When did I say he doesn't, baka?

>>6481736
Who the fuck said his comic is freely provided?

>>6482215
I use photoshop

>>6482379
The fact that if they're selling it to any degree of success it has probably been scanned and uploaded elsewhere.

WHAT THE FUCK TOOL DO THEY USE TO MAKE STRAIGHT LINES THAT ARE PLUM WITH THE PAPER FOR TRADITIONAL MANGA?

>>6482701
Did you just start drawing today or something? Christ, this is basic of the basics.

>>6482701
I use a metal tsquare and one of those small plastic rulers with the gritty underside for drawing straight lines, and use a ruling pen for inking them.

Chapter 8
vertical reading:
https://blueparrotbeak.thecomicseries.com/comics/103/#content-start
horizontal stripe:
https://tapas.io/episode/2747247

>>6482701
use a ruler or t-square idiot

>>6482701
They just have god-tier accuracy

>>6481762
lol, nice. Seems like you're on to something bro, keep it going

>>6478292
I have only ever sketched by hand, so this is not a question about drawing itself from a skills perspective, but a technical question about the PROCESS of drawing:

How difficult is it to sketch by hand, and then move scans of your sketch onto a digital format to ink/redraw?

>>6482814
I've been drawing for a while and never seen this tool. Thank you
>>6482820
Fantastic thank you
>>6482971
I have a ruler
>>6483001
lies

>>6483224
>I've been drawing for a while and never seen this tool.
You've never seen a ruler? Did you never go to school or something?

>>6483351
T-squares aren't rulers

Hi anons
I've made this 2 page oneshot for university activities
It's my first time drawing a comic page
Can you please criticize it
Thank you

>>6483472
2

>>6483224
>Fantastic thank you

You're welcome, anon. Happy drawing to you.

>>6483472
>>6483476
Honestly no idea what's happening

>>6484072
same
>>6483472
>>6483476
I cannot tell which direction this is supposed to be read, what is happening, who anyone is, etc. Two pages of ??????? then
>To be continued
>in JoJo font

This is not a good first impression

Onomatopoeia references?

As a mangaka, what would you personally do for the 1 to 2 hours of fundamentals a day?

are r-18 doujin artists welcome here?

>>6484160
Aren't there 50 coomer generals?

>>6484160
no one in those give a shit about paneling

>>6484181
meant 4 (u)
>>6484173

>>6484181
No one here will help you with paneling, either, since it's entirely up to interpretation. Look at any comic, what you see is what it is. There is no formula or standard.

>>6484194
whats the point of this thread then if people arent helping with manga related concepts

>>6484226
the reality is that no one here is good enough to help you with anything. I've never seen a general with such a low skill level.

>>6484231
Anyone who does have skill is torn down if they try to give advice. They get a 10 paragraph butthurt rebuttal that amounts to "muh style" from some rando not in the conversation, and a 2 line dismissal from the person who wanted advice that also amounts to "muh style"

>>6484234
True. Still sad about Alice anon being bullied out of the thread.

>>6484236
>what do u guys think of my one shot for the -insert manga contest-
>I see what you're saying, but this garbage anatomy and perspective is totally what I was going for
>I'm not even trying to be a professional anyway, so none of that matters to me!
>I'm doing this generic 1:1 shonen knockoff for MYSELF because this color-by-numbers premise featuring deku recolors is just BURNING INSIDE ME to get out!

>>6484246
And let's not forget
>Well my 100 twitter followers tell me it's amazing so I don't need to ever improve :)

I still don't know how to start, what i good for a first page, now i'm stuck with the idea of a bait and switch first page that change tone with after, but i still don't know if it's the right call

I was writing my story and I realized that I'm just writing Berserk set in a modern day but Guts and Griffith are effectively the same character.

Is it worth writing still? would you guys read that?

>>6484257
I'd say no bait and switch, especially not before you get a following. The first page can make or break a comic, and I have dropped many on the first page alone. So that idea not only risks the people who would hate your bait page but love the switch to drop it before they even see the switch, but you also risk the readers who would love the premise from the bait page and lose interest when they do see the switch.

My advice is to show the readers exactly what they're getting. The first page should set up something intriguing, a character or situation that will make people want to find out more about it and turn the page, if they do and what they get is something entirely different, they're likely to leave.

>>6484142
Drawing my comic.

>>6484263
I get what are you saying, but what i want to do is a bait and switch and the swich again, i mean wanted to make the first page like something bad is happening, but then in the second page is all actually very peacefully, and with that i want to show that the mc is a bit paranoic, and then a few pages later i want to switch again, to show that the mc actually had a reason to be worried

>>6484142
Anathomy, pose, figures and perspective, i have been doing those lately while i'm still recovering, and the akihito yoshitomi practice videos helped me a lot in that

>>6484291
How do I practice and grind perspective fundies?

>>6478292
How often are names in anime/manga “meaningful”? As in, do mangaka name characters based off kanji reading meanings, or from cultural associations, or do they just pick names pseudo-randomly?
I want to draw a school slice of life, and I’m more or less just shooting from the hip picking Japanese names I like, but am wondering if that approach will make things feel inauthentic or clash.
For example, in English a name like “Reginald” or “Bridget” have a certain high class connotation to them, and you wouldn’t name a prince character Billy Bob. Similarly, “Veronica” is a “hot girl name,” unisex names are Tomboy territory and “Brad” is a “stock jock name.”
Its connotations like that that I’m worried about screwing up.

>>6484316
If you don't already know this information, you probably haven't done enough research to do a convincing Japanese setting at all. If you're okay with your story just coming off as weaboo daydreaming, then it doesn't matter what names you use, go wild.

>>6480313
didnt like much the eyes in the last panel but I'll stick to that for now

>>6484257
do you intend to put third person narrator or not?

>>6484301
Draw things in perspective.

>>6480313

>>6484328
いえ, mc is the one narrating

>>6484369
can you provide me some context of your story? what is it about and what is the feeling you want to pass with it?

Is a Slice of life cyberpunk good idea?
Also interested in making a mix between Lain, Monster, and Wonder Egg Priority in a sad and distopian cyberpunk world.

>>6484520
I am into this idea from start to finish.

>>6484551
I ended up with a quite different but solid idea for a street fighting manga set in post-almost-WWIII Japan in 2033 that's basically post-covid19 economical crysis on steroids. Akira levels iof street gangs but instead of neotokyo it's just current infrastructure and society gone south.

>>6484375
>>6484278

>>6484520
I don't see why not. Might be difficult to write for though. SOLs tend to rely heavily on well-known information about the world the characters live in. I could see a sci-fi version of that being really interesting showing how their technology and futuristic culture is different from ours, but it's definitely not as simple as writing a more typical SOL. There's also the question of what's "punk" about it? The "punk" aspect has always been about the struggle of the "underground" against the tyrannical rule of whatever the ruling class is in the setting, without that it's just a sci-fi. Do you mean just a sci-fi SOL in a Blade Runner or Akira type setting?

>>6484611
I basically will go with >>6484583 instead of SOL.

>>6484611
Akira but not that futuristic, something closer to our time.

>>6484520
I'm in the middle of a sci-fi drama right now, and one thing I can recommend is having someone from a contrastingly primitive or out of the way environment to be your anchor to the reader. Not because they need a self insert to mindlessly ask questions like an isekai protag, but because they can be the heart of the group who lets otherwise overexposed people take a step back and focus on the world they're surrounded by, which they've become so accustomed to.

Albeit in my case, it's slightly different, since that one more down to earth character is the only human in an otherwise robot cast. But the same idea applies. And yes, it can work. I've been loving every second of this.

Posting last pages.
Still doing figure studies. Unsure if its helping.

>>6484750

Do read if you fancy and let me know
https://m.tapas.io/series/Wings-Of-Daera/info

my latest page here. A dialogue scene, so trying for a natural flow of conversation.

>>6484750
>>6484752
hey /hyw/ buddy , you are putting a good amount of effort into your recent pages and it shows

>>6481327
People who use pen names are pathetic. Are they ashamed of their work? Only time pen name is acceptable is when the piece of work in question could get the author into problems with the cops, but many rather spend some quality time in jail than to hide their identity.

My I am going to publish my shit under my name with my photo, my national ID and my passport!

>>6478753
digital motion blur was used on this obviously.

>>6485138
>Are they ashamed of their work?
I'm sure people would use a pen name for many reasons, I'd use one to maintain privacy.

>>6485151
Do you think people are going to come knocking at your door or something? Calling you out on the street?

>>6485301
No, but authors do get hate mails and musicians have crazy stalkers. Best to take precaution before it actually happens.

Any contest coming soon besides the Manga audition one?

>>6485301
>>6485324
I'm a small time nobody webcomic artist with a small following and even I have had multiple stalkers over the years. I don't put any photos of myself on the internet now because of this. I have had girls who came to my table at shows and cons stalk me and show up at my day job workplace I wish I had used a pen name but my teachers at the time I started producing art told me to use my real name so I just listened. The Demon Slayer and Death Note mangakas use pen names, there's nothing wrong with it.

>>6478753
There's a shit ton of digital manipulation and effects on this piece.

>>6485138
There are few times in your life where it's acceptable to choose the name people know you by (granted, it's much more common now thanks to online handles). Nobody is "pathetic" for choosing to enjoy the rare opportunity.

am I a fucking retard for wanting to do a story with a character that is supposed to be really badass and cool and gratuitously violent but also portray him as someone that shouldn't be idolized because he's horrible as shit for killing people

is it possible to have my cake and eat it too? I like violent stories like berserk and HNK and it's fun drawing violence but I also want to have this character be punished for what he's done and be a cautionary tale without coming off to viewers as "you should totally feel bad for thinking this character, who I designed to be cool, looks cool"

I guess I can at least partially justify it since fiction lets you do whatever you want and nobody's actually being hurt, but how the hell can I make what he does entertaining without also appearing as glorifying

>>6485138
I use my middle name as a pseudonym because I don't want people using my first name when they don't know me personally. I don't like people calling me by my first name unless they're special to me, like friends and family

>>6485887
Watch The Sopranos.
No this is not the best comparison but it works.

>>6485887
I don't know if it'd fit your tone, but you could make the hyperviolence have enough of an extreme bend it takes on a more dark humour aspect. It'd take a bit away from the straightforward "cool" factor.
Having the character act violently unprovoked and employ very over-the-top measures for banal issues would at least make it apparent he isn't supposed to be seen as entirely reasonable.
That kind of behaviour can be weirdly endearing, at least to me, but it doesn't exactly make the character look good. In general, even if you draw a lot of trashy B movie violence that's clearly just plain exploitation, as long as the characterisation itself doesn't paint the character as a 100% rational righteous cool dude it won't come off as glorifying it.
Hell, even when glorifying it is the intent sometimes it doesn't land. Ken is justified in executing any wasteland goons he comes across because those fuckers are cartoonishly evil, but since it's always depicted very gruesomely it takes a bit away from his "sad kind pacifist reluctantly using violence for the greater good" image and makes him seem a bit unhinged. To me it's part of the fun and charm of the comic, but it's likely unintentional.

>>6485887
Obviously not because you're describing multiple very popular and critically acclaimed works of western media. Breaking Bad, The Sopranos and arguably Taxi Driver are all what you describe.

>>6485887
I mean, people like Mobster movies and their psychopath characters...like those in Casino, Goodfellas, The Godfather etc and they usually end up dead. So yeah it can work. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

in fact it can be said that those kind of characters are too glorified.

>>6486084
Everyone idolizes those guys and wants to live like them though. America has a huge criminal problem and part of that is romanticizing criminals in media.

>>6486094
And Japan has the exact same problem with their idealization and idolization of Yakuza, not to mention shit like Redo of a Healer

>>6478746
>>6478765
>>6478776
Yotsubato's latest chap had this, but it doesn't utilize screentones

>>6484110
>>6484072
Hi
I'll explain
The reading is from the right to the left
The university club did it to tease their mascot and the theme of multiverse teleportation
They wanted two page story and they sent me the Scenario
I just draw
I know it's not impressive but thx for the criticism big anons
Btw can you evaluate the art
Thx again

How many of you take hiatus from comics often to work on your own technical art skills and/or art style?

>>6486890
Every mangaka who ever lived

are there any manga or western comics that are known to have been pumped out very quickly by one guy?
basically I’m looking examples of art taking the back of the bus because the author wanted to tell a story asap
I heard about toriyama supposedly had a habit of doing fuck all and then overnighting a whole chapter, togashi with his health or whatever, one just couldn’t draw, and I guess opm is the closest thing to what I’m looking for, but are there any more examples?
pic unrelated

>>6487118
literally any webcomic has next to dogshit art save for one or two that took forever to come out with a new page and got dropped years ago

>>6487121
I thought not looking like shit was implied, I didn’t mean stuff like tails gets trolled

>>6487124
Be more specific. Dragonball is your best example for "low effort/time with high skill", but if you don't have high skill then your low effort will result in Tails Gets Trolled, in which case you better be just as memeworthy

>>6487132
I just asked for good examples, I don’t have an autistic specification it needs to fit, I already listed different works that fit

>>6487118
Felipe Smith had like one assistant who did tones, who came in once a week, but otherwise he did everything on Peepo Choo. He said he would draw directly with ink, because he didn't have time for pencils, and he would sleep with the lights on because if he wasn't tired enough to fall asleep like that, he still had energy to draw

>>6487229
wow, all of that just to make a shitty weeb story. too bad

>>6487118
>I heard about toriyama supposedly had a habit of doing fuck all and then overnighting a whole chapter

imagine believing this.

>>6487118
>are there any manga or western comics that are known to have been pumped out very quickly by one guy?

I'm sure there are tons of examples just nobody ever heard of them because they're completely shit.

>>6487249
I believe it, Toriyama didn’t give a shit about DB, it’s some nonsense his wife and editor mashed together. It was also his wife who said that.

>>6487247
Good art though

>>6487249
The entire reason Dragon Ball exists is that he got bored of the previous manga in under a year, but they wouldn’t let him stop unless he had something more promising to replace it with so he threw shit at the wall until a oneshot stuck, then made shit up without writing in advance for the next decade.
Toriyama is the archetypal effortless genius.

>>6487249
>Typically, when creating a manga chapter, an artist draws a rough draft or "name", then a more detailed storyboard, and lastly the finalized version. However, Toriyama only draws a storyboard and then the final product simply because it is less work.[4] He did not plan the details of his stories in advance. When he began the serialization of Dragon Ball, he had only prepared storyboards for three chapters.[4] The author said that during its serialization he would wait about two days before his deadline to begin developing the storyboard. Starting around midnight, he would finish it around six in the morning and spend until that night inking, finishing everything in about a day-and-a-half.[6] Unlike other artists, he had only one assistant helping him.[23] Toriyama said that thinking only about the story for each chapter put him in some tight spots, particularly with Trunks' time travel.[4] The only thing he has confidence in is his ability to connect a story back to an earlier aspect, making it seem to have been foreshadowing.[20] The author used suggestions in fan mail he received, though generally doing the opposite of what was suggested. As an example, many fans told him not to kill Vegeta, which is exactly what he did.[24]
I’m believing it and there’s nothing you can do about it

>>6487271
I love this guy
You can tell he was starting to get burned out around the time he stopped hatching and stopped filling in blacks, the manga shifted to just plain simple linework that he could draw very quickly. Watch some of his drawing on youtube and you'll believe he could blast out a chapter in a day and a half.

>>6487271
>I’m believing it and there’s nothing you can do about it
kek, yeah cause you're an all-day sucker. Epic trolling by Toriyama tho.

>>6487376
seethe

>>6487118
Here's an example everybody's heard of: Homestuck/MSPA.

>>6487247
That's manga baby.

>>6487271
Truth is, he worked for 2 years straight to get his first serialization, and he's sustained a 22 page weekly output for years. He's a fucking hard worker

Also, many artists sensationalize themselves. Pic related.

>>6487451
Sounds like Hemingway's toughguy act, good to see the aristocracy's script never changes

>>6487451
You’re moving goalposts, nobody made any statements about his productivity or output, and I’ll take his and his peers’ word about his schedule over that of some random faggot on the internet no matter how much said faggot cries about it.

>>6487468
In an industry where people's hearts rupture over the workload, it's just impossible to believe someone could be so laissez-faire, especially when they produce a world-class ip. Toriyama said in an interview he drew 500 pages in the year preceding his serialization, all rejected by his editor.

>>6487468
at what age did you stop believing in Santa Claus?

chapter 11 opening page

What fonts do you guys like to use?
Does the font choice matter especially much for the tone of the story?

>>6487853
>What fonts do you guys like to use?
https://mangafonts.carrd.co/
>Does the font choice matter especially much for the tone of the story?
The text honestly matters just as much as the art itself. It's the medium through which the story is being experienced.

>>6487853
>What fonts do you guys like to use?
https://mangafonts.carrd.co/
But to answer the question I like CreativeBlock in my personal work because it fits the feel of my drawings fairly well, but in my work pages we're just using WildWords.
>Does the font choice matter especially much for the tone of the story?
The text honestly matters just as much as the art itself. It's the medium through which the story is being experienced.

>>6487853
Comic book and anime ace

>>6480769
Not bad

Best resources on composition you've found? I'm really struggling with this right now

>>6487997
Framed Ink by Marco Mateu Mestre, or Edgar Payne's composition lessons.

>>6487997
Drawings I like.

>>6488003
those formulas for composition always sussed me out, for some reason.

>>6488005
>sussed
I'm gonna be nice and pretend you're over 18. They're meant to show the different variations for landscape compositions like how muscles and fat deposits behave like on the human anatomy. They aren't formulas, and you'd be retarded to treat them as such.

>>6487997
Can't go wrong with the Famous Artists Course. There's more things in the folder, but that first booklet alone is insanely helpful and well worth the read, specially the stuff about space, depth, line and value.
Zm9sZGVyL3hncGtpYXlDI2hKMnA1QnRJM04wM1lMdFFQZG9lWmc=
This post is worth checking out, too. It talks a bit more about how overlapping can help create a better sense of space and create interest.
https://web.archive.org/web/20151022145311/http://sirspamdalot.livejournal.com/83517.html

>>6488024
Thank you so much

>>6478292
I'm going to scan this in and ink and colorize it digitally, but i'm trying to get as much done on paper as possible before inking. I would love some feedback, especially from a pacing/editing/paneling perspective -- I don't think I would ever call myself an artist, but i would like to be a storyteller

>>6488036

>>6488038
The content of the numbered panels

>>6488040

>>6488041
last page and farthest I could get before needing to go to bed tonight.

My biggest debate right no, These 4 panels have 3 narration bubbles straddling the gaps. I wanted to arrange them in a diagonal line from top 3rd of the first gap, middle of second, and bottom 3rd of last gap.
But I kinda have those areas filled with the subject of each panel, and the narration bubbles would overlap them. Should I move the narration bubbles, or shift the subject of the first and last panels up and down?

>>6488043
here's the last two pages side-by-side. I hope the the 3-point-perspective and dutch angles are working out. I've never taken an art class before

>>6488036
>>6488038
>>6488040
>>6488041
>>6488043
I commend your efforts but I have no idea what's going on and why a sock is on the bathroom wall. Do your pages read left to right or right to left? You should study how your favorite manga does their paneling. Can't say what you have resembles any technique that a manga would use.

>>6488046
>I commend your efforts but I have no idea what's going on and why a sock is on the bathroom wall. Do your pages read left to right or right to left?
left to right. you can't get the gist it's cops at a crime scene?

>>6488051
>you can't get the gist it's cops at a crime scene?
No I actually can't. They looked like 3 different things going on and none of them connected.

One with a magician and a doomsday device.
One with cops and the army.
The last one is someone who was killed with an onahole(?) or somehow committed suicide.

>>6488036
>>6488051
First and foremost, work on your drawing skill. Lots and lots of figure drawing and perspective.

>>6488061
I dunno about that, that's about as crappy as I was when I started. He'll get better just by making more pages. I mean yeah obviously figure drawing and perspective will help but what is a comic if not a shitload of figure drawing and perspective?

>>6488061
I'm not going bother doing figures and studies if it's not working to a concrete goal, because no matter how many you do it's still never good enough

>>6488056
>onahole(?) or somehow committed suicide.
There's a reason it's going to get scanned and inked digitally, because I can't color Wall Pizza red using a mechanical pencil

>>6488067
This is what I was confident drawing not much earlier >>6483193 so I would say it's improving

Is it bad as a westerner to make a comic that reads right to left like a legit manga does?
I've just read enough manga that reading comics left to right feels wrong to me at this point and I want to stick to what I know

>>6488561
I always find it pathetic when I see

>>6488561
unless you're drawing for an actual japanese audience I wouldn't do it.

>>6488561
it is beyond retarded
japs read right to left, that is why their comics read right to left, same reason their books read right to left
you read left to right
if you saw a wannabe writer writing a “light novel” and having it read the wrong way while using english, you’d call him a fucking retard, and for good reason
>b-b-but it makes sense to me
you trained yourself to be retarded, everyone else still thinks you’re a faggot
>ackshooyalee horizontal text
shut the fuck up

>>6488074
That’s a really immature mindset. You can study while also making comics, and figure drawing IS towards a direct goal: making better comics. At least first get to a point where people can understand your story, then decide if you want to stop figure drawing

>>6488561
If you plan on participating in international contests, publish on japanese sites like pixiv or simply feel more comfortable with it, why not? Only absolute retards cry about it and their opinion is irrelevant anyways since they don't produce anything themselves and/or have absolute shittaste.

>>6484246
>>6484254
Add another to the eternal beg excuse list, we're gonna have a bingo sheet soon

>>6488805
>Anyone who says something I don't like IS BAD ANYWAY and DOESN'T EVEN MAKE MANGA

>>6488805
this です

>>6488817
you misunderstand his point

>>6488818
The original question said nothing about entering a contest, in which case you would obviously follow the standard rules and common format.
>>6488805
this fagot just wanted to take a giant shit in the thread and used the question as an excuse

>>6488805
>the opinions of your readers don't matter since they're stupid and don't make things anyway lol
My dude, don't make other artists your target audience.
Obviously if your target audience is JAPANESE then you should produce your work FOR THE JAPANESE. If your work is for ENGLISH READERS then you should produce your work for ENGLISH READERS. Nobody fucking asked "if I'm making manga in japanese should I make it R->L??" because the answer is obviously yes.

>>6488588
>>6488793
>>6488805
>>6488828
I didn't really have a target audience in mind, western or eastern. I'm making it primarily for myself and I want it to reach people that will be impacted emotionally by the story. Since I only speak english I guess it'd be best to format it left to right

>>6489017
Anon if the language you are making it in is english then english readers are your target audience.

When posting on pixiv, are you supposed to mark your work as R-18 if the action scenes are too violent? For example, monsters dismembering people.

>>6489919
I believe it asks you before uploading to mark certain content so check if it's applicable.
a wip im working on

>>6488828
>>6488822
>>6488817
Good storytelling, drawings and flow are not hindered in any way by the direction you're reading it. It takes you not even a minute to adjust, ultimately it doesn't matter at all. So are you just going to prove my point or show anything you made?

>>6490038
I used to be in the "it doesn't matter" camp, but nowadays I believe that you really, really should be considering your target audience. It might not matter to YOU what direction you read it in, but try showing it to your parents and it's a different story. You're adding an extra layer to getting into it while gaining absolutely nothing, which is not a smart move. Use the reading order that your INTENDED audience is used to, not the one that you personally are used to. When I make comics for an english-reading audience, I make them L->R, when I make comics for a japanese-reading audience like pic related, I make them L<-R. It's not rocket science.

chapter 9
https://tapas.io/episode/2751244

>>6490038
If you're making excuses to yourself to justify your potential readers to do extra work, you're losing potential readers.

I'm auditing a life drawing class at a local community college in a few weeks. I'm excited about it and hoping it can help clean up all my anatomy flaws, or atleast improve them. Having a teacher who points out all my bad habits so I can fix them will help a lot.
>>6488828
Yeah I agree with this. If I ever translate my comic to Japanese I'd flip the art and make it R>L but I feel pretty dumb making it R>L when I'm not Japanese and my primary audience is English speakers and I sell it to primarily English speakers. I want to try making an unrelated soccer comic oneshot later this year to enter in to international manga contests so I'll probably make that R>L.

>>6489976
still trying to figure out what to do as the background
. but here's the lineart.

>>6487118
Tokyo Revenge is done by one guy, he even does backgrounds which is very rare.

There's any program that could help me layout names/storyboards i would like to draw them, but my hand is bit wonky, so i wanna layout a whole chapter while it gets back to normal

>>6490282
Can't just use your mouse?

>>6490228
your panelling is shit

Call nme dumb, but how do I get letters to have thick white stroke for thought bubbles like in the bottom panel of this page? It works fine in photoshop, but photoshop text pixilates so I letter with Adobe Illustrator. When I add white stroke to letters in Adobe illustrator, instead of only going around the letter like pic related, the stroke also goes in to the letter and covers up the black part. How do I make it so the stroke outline only goes on the OUTSIDE of the letter?

>>6490321
i'll fix it tomorrow

>>6490332
Page 178 shows a kinda similar case where the border is only on the outside, and the sound effects chapter has a lot of examples of offset path usage:
https://files.catbox.moe/a3cmqx.pdf
I don't have Illustrator and only have the book because I was curious about lettering conventions so I can't check, but it probably fits your case.

>>6490359
Thank you! I don't understand why this simple effect is so hard to achieve. Stroke works correctly in cs5 photoshop but for some reason Adobe illustrator needs an entirely different process.

>>6490228
>>6490321

What genre do you specialize in and how did you pick it?

>>6490390
Genre as in art style?
Right now I'm experimenting with mixing painterly tools with ink-and-pen sensibilities, but I generally use very high fidelity ink-and-pen. Too high, actually.

Genre as in content?
When I was young, I was big into action and hated emotional storytelling. But a few specific influences, looking back, made me realize how important characters have always been to me. I now do mostly character driven drama pieces with some action flair, primarily sci-fi inspired because robots are fun.

>>6490265
tokyo revenge or revengers? can’t find the former

how do i know if i really want to make a comic?
im conflicted
dont know if i really wana create a comic
or because comic is the greatest milestone to achieve with art

>>6491091
> greatest milestone to achieve with art
????????????????

>>6491117
an achievement

>>6491091
If you really wanted to do it you'd know, what comics are really about is telling a story. Do you want to tell stories? Making a comic is not something to take lightly I'd say, there's way too much work involved.

>>6491135
In art? Nah, depends on what you mean. Comics are built for efficiency and often sacrifice art quality for deadlines. Comics require more skills from other areas such as typesetting/graphic design or writing outside of sheer drawing or painting skill but if you’re speaking only on achievements related to visual arts, definitely not.

>>6491176
I can kind of see what he means, a comic is the medium where an artist can tell a large story entirely on his own with full creative control of every single detail.

>>6491176
Oil painting is baby piss shit compared to manga

>>6491177
>>6491191
When I think of greatest art achievements I think of revolutionary innovations in art history. Hagia Sophia, Sistine Chapel, Taj Mahal, the Pantheon. Comics are primarily made as entertainment for mass consumption, it naturally sacrifices quality for time. The difference is that a weekly manga cannot be worked on for years like the greatest world wonders. Comics are heavily restrained by their consumerist nature, comics are illustration work.

>>6490390
I really love long form epic fantasy and historic fiction. I this genre because it allows me to tell any kind of story I want, and draw things I like to draw. Sci fi is also cool, but I've never tried drawing a sci fi comic because I'm bad at/don't like drawing vechicles and modern things. I grew up reading fantasy stories like the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings very early in life. Two of my favorite comics are Giant Killing and Your Lie in April and I want to try drawing a down to earth slice of life soccer one shot as my next project. The genres I don't like writing are thrillers, heists and mysteries, they just don't have any appeal to me.

>>6491197
If you don't think comics has changed the world you're literally blind

>>6491197
I guarantee you comics have had more of an impact on more people than the "Taj Mahal" etc. Just look at the amount of people imitating an anime artstyle.

>>6491152
>Do you want to tell stories
not sure
i do got stories tho i dislike writing
>>6491176
>>6491177
not all artists can create comic
thats why its an achievement
like publishing a book

>>6491091
If you don't know then you're not going to finish whatever comic project you start so just consider it a no. The only way it doesn't work out like that is if you really enjoy the process, but you probably won't otherwise you'd already be doing it.

>>6491204
>>6491223
Yeah for bottom barrel mass consumers and pop culture, and my point is that comics do not let artists unleash their full potential in regards to artistic ability because of how they are structured, if they did then how come most artists have to make deadlines with shortcuts such as 3D assests to draw their comic, or use other techniques to save time? The examples I listed are works that allowed for a lot more manpower and time, which let the artists to put more quality and do more ambitious things. It's not about the impact comics had on pop culture but rather the industry makes it so that comic artists must sacrifice art quality all the time. Most comic artists do not have the time to draw each panel on the same level as say Bernie Wrightson or Franklin Booth, none are able to truly realize their peak because of the nature of the industry. Also if you actually think oil painting is easy you are a tradlarper, and probably don't even draw comics on trad either. Both are tough as hell in their own right, and oil painting is extremely hard to do right if you actually know anything about painting beyond basics, but my point is that because of the way the comic industry is structured in a way it hinders the artist's growth to go above and beyond. Comic artists always have to settle with what they got and have to cut down their time on each page for speed thus cannot do anything as ambitious as they would want to.
>>6491225
True, I agree comic making is hard but it depends on what you mean by artistic achievement because comic is a medium that requires skill from other areas outside of just visual arts, that's what I said earlier too.

>>6491197
The oldest art humans ever made were comics painted on cave walls about them hunting mammoths.

>>6491197
>Comics are heavily restrained by their consumerist nature, comics are illustration work.
also you're an elitist faggot who sounds like you were brainwashed in an elitist art school, or you read too many fine art books. Did you know the fine art market is a money laundering operation?

>>6491306
You're judging the greatest 1% of "other" art mediums against the average bottom of the barrel pageslave comic artist. Not really fair.

Comics have had plenty of "arthouse" and showoff entries as well and were given plenty of time. The main difference between comic artists and any other medium is that the baseline for being "good" in comics is having a solid grasp on a much wider range of skills than your average illustrator or painter who all tend to hyperspecialize in one subject or one style.

An illustrator like Rockwell got by on painting pretty girls in various costumes all his life. Oil painters generally only do landscapes, or only do portraits. The more impressive Renn masters did nothing but anatomy study-tier figure paintings, maybe with some cherubs to make it religious.

A comic artist needs to be able to do all that AND be able to tell a story with it. You need to know backgrounds, you need to know perspective, you need to know composition, you need to know anatomy, you need to know motion, you need to know vehicles, and you need to be able to choose and arrange all of these things coherently over and over again. And yes, the time limits they are under make it even more impressive. I'm much more impressed by the guy who made this comic with a deadline than the guy who painted a naked figure with nice lighting but took 3 years to do it.

working with colors for this chapter

>>6491447

>>6491449
I will redraw the first panel later lmao

>>6491452

>>6491453
aaaand he is dead.

>>6490745
Revengers. I'm retarded.

For those of you who've drawn lots of comics, what is the speed of improvement like compared to when you were just studying drawing? I'm pretty neurotic about my studying and reducing my study time to draw comics makes me nervous...

Why, at times, manga artists break a small part of a panel into a smaller panel (bottom left)?

Is it to give a motion sensation?

>>6491779
Yes, it's an attempt at a panning shot.

>>6491779
Emulating a pan.

drew a random panel just for the practice, anything i could improve?

>>6491747
I get better and faster at storytelling, layouts and paneling but my actual drawing skills don't improve much if I'm not actively studying too.

>>6491900
I see, thanks for the insight. What do you do in the limited time you have for studying then?

>>6491904
Honestly I have only started studying again more recently. I try to do lose gesture drawings and figure drawing for about an hour before I start drawing comic pages. If it's a talking heads scene, I try to practice expressions and heads and upper bodies from different angles. Also I'm going to start a weekly life drawing class at the junior college near me. I don't know if you're in USA but it turns out if you aren't trying to get credits and just want to learn, a lot of life drawing classes in community colleges will let you take them for free. I'm hoping this will help me improve. If I know I have a big action scene coming up I try to practice harder action poses I don't usually do.

In the past when I had less time, I would carry a sketchbook with me at all times and draw on the subway or bus while going back and forth to work and school, and I'd draw in my free time on breaks. This is a good habit and I should start doing it again.

>>6491747
>>6491900
I don't draw outside of comics (and designs for comics) but my drawing skill definitely continues to improve as I go. I can't really claim that my anatomy or whatever is getting better, but I'm definitely getting better with my linework and shapes.

>>6491883
this triggered my fight or flight response nigga

>>6491919
I'm fine with that

>>6491917
Thank you. Wishing you all the best

>>6491883
Proportions
There's some weirdness going on with the foreheads, the shoulders - they should presumably be more raised - and the scalps, but the most obvious thing is that her hands are tiny. Other minor gripes include the fact that the eyes should be angled more and flatter.

I like your texture work around the cheeks and mouthes, even if something about the lips themselves rubs me the wrong way for some reason, and I'd recommend you apply a similar texture to your clothing. It really stands out in comparison.

>>6491883
Small adjustment you could make is to make more use of blacks - making the backdrop completely black and emphasising some of the shadows makes the scene really dramatic.
Framing wise, don't be afraid to zoom in and crop a little - the original has an awkward gap at the top, but zooming it in like this makes the scene closer and intimat, and thus a little more tense.

>>6482030
Depends , but most cases are either a mix or digital only . The only people still doing full physical or almost full physical are the boomers of industry. For example everything except for the colored pages for Urasawa manga is hand done.

>>6487247
Whats up with manga forcing almost every non Korean foreigner to write a autobiography ? Picrel is the only manga thats the exception to the rule.

>>6491984
>>6492135
thank ya'll both
Fixing the anatomy would take too much time so I just played around with the other stuff

I see whet you mean with the zooming in but I can't figure out where else to put the text if i would

>>6491091
Just try making a two page thing and see if you like it.

If I made a manga involving lots of nude high schoolers (but no sex), how fucked would I be among normies even if I included the 18+ disclaimer? Do think it’d be an obstacle to getting fans? Should I even care?

>>6492768
Velma is a normie show in the west and the first scene is a 2 minute naked catfight between a bunch of 15 year old highschool girls.

Are there any mangas out there that use no to a minimal amount of screentones ? I know some of the 50s and early 60s stuff relied heavily on hatching.

>>6492980
Shoujo was still pretty sparse with the screentones in the 70's, and even some early 80's ones like Tokimeki Tonight still kept to a single grey tone most of the time.
Even if it's not to your taste it's interesting to take a look at them because they did a lot of really wild funky effects with just hand-drawn patterns. I think Oniisama E might be a good one to check since it has a lot of fancy stuff in the first chapter.
And while not a manga, for some really cool handling of pure BW composition without even hatching for greys check out Toth's The Crushed Gardenia:
https://imgur.com/a/lU0uf4S

>>6493121
Well shit I feel silly, I wonder why it's all out of order when it looked fine on the upload page. Well, the story isn't anything special, and there's at least numbers for the pages.
As an addendum, if single gray tone is alright with you then Leiji Matsumoto also has a lot of interesting-looking stuff. And like you said, if you keep to 50's and early 60's it'll all pretty much be pure BW, and Tezuka was usually full BW with hand-drawn hatching and patterns even after that (but Unico is in full colour)

>>6492387
Because japan doesn't get much of that stuff so when a foreigner who could be doing that comes along a lot of editors are going to push them to doing that whether they want to or not. It's not the same as forcing them, but it's not that far off.

https://wingsofdaera.cfw.me
https://tapas.io/series/Wings-Of-Daera

pew pew
What's a good onomatopeia for a railgun?

>>6493238
try quack

>>6493238
I read your comic. At first I didnt like the shota sissy protagonist but the end of the first chapter got my by surprise. Im looking foward it.
Maybe ''pew'' or ''zam''

>>6493333
>shota sissy protagonist
He'll get better as the story goes and you see more about him trust me.

>looking forward it
This fills me with joy! Please keep reading, it's gonna get crazy.

There is no way pew is a good onomatopeia for a destructive railgun though.

>>6493384
Im talking about the cute style but that just a personal thing no need to worry about.

I think you could use more than one onomatopeia. The first for ignition and the other for the wave. As a example:

>>6493415
"Vuush" when it's fired and "BOOM" when it lands are pretty good. Kind of like a lightning.

>>6488061
>>6488036

Dont listen to him. Dont "first work on your drawing skills." Its a trap. Just keep working on your comic while you study on the side.

>>6493733
nothing he said indicated he should stop working on his comic

I don’t think Japanese is happening for me, bros…

>Thinking of hiring people more skilled and experienced than me for assistant work
This sounds kind of pathetic but has anyone trying this? The only mangaka I know who gets mogged by his assistants in terms of skill is Fujimoto.

>>6493844
I have an assistant who IMO is more skilled than me. I don't learn shit because we work separately (timezone issue) and I'm too busy with my own side of things to pay much attention to what he's doing even when we're drawing together.
Honestly I'd rather not work with assistants but I don't really have a choice. Working with assistants means I need to sketch things in much greater detail, plus find more refs and provide notes, and then come back to the page and check the assistant's work after he's done (even though he's better than me at drawing I still gotta QC it and do the finishing touches) which means the page isn't "finished" in my mind, rather than just drawing it all myself and not having to think about it any further. I totally understand mangaka who work solo even though they don't have to. For someone like me who just wants to draw the damn thing, having assistants introduces a lot of fuckaround that I'm not used to.

>>6493844
ONE also had assistants mog him for mob psycho

>>6479531
>Is it even possible to make a living with comics?
yes, but HIGHLY unlikely
do you mind drawing furry porn for rent?
>Is this a pipe dream?
yes
>Should I go back to college and do something else?
yes

>>6478292
>/mmg/ - Manga Making General
>just the same retards from /co/, but b/w instead of color webcomics
I guess anywhere is better than /co/mblr, lmao

>>6493891
I don't use /co/, and for good reason.
Also
>Not the first post from this IP

>>6478292
I am guessing a manga about psychedelics won't fly for a Japanese audience?

>>6494012
There will also be infidelity. It's about this young salary man who has a pretty standard life. A wife, a stable job. Though, feels unhappy without knowing why. After an evening of drinking with the boss and his colleagues, he sits dazed on a sidewalk when a strangely dressed woman sits next to him. She mentioned that he seems unhappy, and he shares his feelings with her. She stands up with her hand out and offers to take him somewhere to lighten up his mood. He is reluctant, but something in her is captivating. He follows here into a sketchy looking industrial. When the protagonist thinks he is about to be robbed of his organs, it is revealed that she took him to a rave. Never been to such a place, he feels like a fish out of water. The woman tries to make him feel at ease, and begins to dance. The atmosphere is dreamy and surreal, probably of the drinks he already had. Then she comes close, and they share a kiss. There is a shot of her having her tongue out, revealing a square of LSD. The scene quickly turns psychedelic and morphs into them having sex. Then the protagonist wakes up to the woman making breakfast in his button-up shirt. He leaves quickly, realizing what has happened. Then he notices nothing in the world seems quite the same anymore. To find out why this happens, the protag goes on a quest to find the woman and get answers.

>>6494019
This is so cliche lol. Also, fuck him for cheating on his wife

>>6494019
generic mpdg story but made by a weeaboo

>>6494012
>>6494019
Why does it have to be for a japanese audience? Are you obsessed with Japan? Why not make it for your own language and culture in mind? Have you actually had an experience like that happen to you? While in Japan?
As a newcomer, you should focus on more plain stories in order to build up your storytelling skills. If this is a plot you really want to tell, then go make a movie. Doesn't matter, I get the feeling you're underestimating storytelling to begin with.

Could some kind anons here post good infographics / diagrams in manga? I'm a bit stuck on designing this particular one.

>>6484520
Literally what I'm making now. Cyberpunk police story with a lot of slice of life stuff in it.

>>6493891
cry harder faggot. seethe. you will never be a woman.

>>6494012
How about manga about ugly fat stinky and ystupid krumpus who gets internet and learns there are hot oni chick in japan, scores a german teaching job with a phony language school in japan, moves over there only to never score and be constanly abused, humilated and treated like shit.

It’s not really aimed at japanese audience I intend to send it to shitty eastern european weeb fanzine that unlike other local fanzines has zero standards, but bonus poits should the nips like it I suppose.

>>6494638
I'm not Japanese but I'd read it

>>6494645
Good enough for me.

>>6494638
Absolute kino, I see great things in your future.

>>6478292
How would i get the messy painterly style of Tokyo Ghoul/Choujin X anyone got tutorials?

>>6495135
Look at the lines and copy them.

>>6494430
pic related.

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>>6494259
genuinely awful advice