/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Draw this.

Finished this piece recently. Any thoughts?

>>6480696
Clean, weird design though.
>>6480684
Draw?

>>6480684

How long do I have to spend drawing cubes, spheres and cylinders until I can start drawing something fun?

>>6480729
As long as you want

30 minute dog

>>6480730
I don't want to draw them at all but I understand you have to master them if you want to draw something more complex.

>>6480696
Looks good, although the weird headgear makes it look as if one of their eyes is way high. Also the grenade being pear shaped.

>>6480729
Start drawing fun stuff now. You can do the meme basic shapes alongside you actually learning something useful. Fill a page of them as warm up before any regular drawing session, and you'll get that mileage parallel to some actual learning. Also do try and incorporate those shapes into your construction once you start learning that.

>>6480729
You do both together. Who the fuck told you to do only that?

>>6480679
Why is the far shoulder wider than the close one, it looks assymetrical, should be the other way around IMO.
>misaligned eyes
ahh you were so close OP

>>6480750
I don't see it. Redline it for us.

>>6480750
>>6480752
Yeah, I see it, the back shoulder is too far down and to the right, considering her overall pose and perspective, it should be more "tucked" behind the torso.

>>6480734
You only have to "master" them to a point where you feel that you understand how they look in 3D. Also, like the other anon said, you can do both at the same time ... or even combine them, like draw a character inside an invisible box

>>6480755
>the back shoulder is too far down and to the right
Shoulder line aligns with all the other elements so there's no problem there.
>it should be more "tucked" behind the torso.
shoulders are not fused to the side of the ribcage.

>>6478528
Continuing this.

I wonder if shit tier artists who make videos about the importance of mental health realize the absolute and utter damage they do to other artists. When I see a permabeg anime doodler say "just take a break, art isnt everything :)" it makes me want to draw for 18 hours a day until I have a nervous breakdown.

These people are either pro artists who want you to burn out, or just want you to actually draw. It's just such a potent motivator to practice that I refuse to believe it's actually a begtard telling me to take care of my mental health.

>>6480783
You are mentally ill.

>>6480797
Nothing wrong with being a neurotic schizo.

crit appreciated, pose feels weird and off to me

Thoughts?

I hate coloring

>>6480806
Neck?

4GP048

>>6480856
you made it look so much nicer, this is lovely anon!!

Might as well repost it again...
Portrait of Don Van Vliet in anger.

>>6480879
Continue?

>>6480898
Wdym? continue posting?

>>6480910
the painting.

Uugh im gonna Loooom

>>6480928
Pretty close. top and middle left are a little too long in the face, bottom one the face is a little off center (or maybe it's just the chin poking out). Middle right one is missing a big chuck on of the cranium in the the back.

>>6480933
Ty anon, I see it now

i just started using paints and brushes
i drew all my life with only pen
is this good / passable ?

>>6480959
Did you use ref for the faces and freestyle that body? Quality difference is very obvious

Hello I am struggling with the arm perspective. Feel free to roast.

>>6481028
Just let it hang?

>>6481034
actually never mind. Thought she was sitting and we were looking down at her till i saw the leg.

The hardest part of drawing is slowing down and doing everything carefully.

>>6480833
yikes

>>6480912
No idea what else to add there, or how. I can't draw on the paint there in the background.

waku waku!

>>6480679
>RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS
Nobody bothers to do this anymore, apparently.

>>6480856
You put a background and this is worth thousands of likes on Instagram. Fusing /int/ and /beg/ was a mistake.

Should I go back to shapes and shadows or am I ready to advance?

>>6481067
Yikes? Wtf does that mean

>>6481102
Inverted the head it looks more natural know i think

>>6481121
Practice more contraster shadows

>>6481132
Forgot pic

Contrasted*

>>6481028
not too bad, I'd try to define the shape of the arms more. Try to favor either the arm turning towards us or away instead of making straight lines. Use the folds and ends of clothing to your advantage to show perspective.

>>6481028
you need to grind simple objects with simple perspective
what you're trying to draw is too hard for you

>>6481074
But you can paint on the drawing? Or are these cheap ballpoint looking lines crucial to the piece?

>>6481132
Thank you

>>6481155
Thank you, it looks so much better ! it feels so obvious now that you pointed it out I hope my brain assimilates it for next times

>>6481168
Yes. The irony is that I usually draw in semi realistic art style (not that im particularly good) and I decided to do something anime with flat colors bc it’d be easy and relaxing yet here I am.

>>6481208
(extreme) foreshortening is the opposite of relaxing mate

help me avoid calarts

I switched to pen so I wouldnt chickenscratch so damn much but I still keep redrawing the same line 10 times. Im gonna force myself to do clean lines on the next one

>>6481177
Those are just ballpoint lines, yes, and they were made on the parts of the drawing with lighter colors. It won't look good on the darker parts. I don't have a white pen to solve this. Another thing is I have no idea what background to make.

>>6481223
the mouth alone makes it stand out from calarts

>>6480679
>>6478932
>>6477935
hi, im the faggot from the last thread.
i had some ideas for the painting but couldn't get to you yesterday because i was too tired after comms. i think the biggest thing was that everything was just too messy.

>>6481232
You need to check your thirds, and look at the position of the ear.

>>6481262
>>6481208
rape

>>6481232
to be fair for quick sketches that looks great, darkening some lines can be better as it makes the piece look better and features pop out more. however yeah you want to eliminate chicken scratching

>>6481262
you made it soulless, personally the entire appeal of the original anons was how you could see the marks

Still busy. Only two drawings this week. Still using reference photos.
Number one, going for a Horus Luprical vibe:

Number two, from a reference on /cgl/. I liked the photo, I don't care for the thread. I tried /s/ first, but I didn't want to do nudes. I'm trying to learn to draw clothes.

>>6481287
I disagree, the colors are better now and the the shapes are much more clear

>>6481300
>>6481303
work on your lines

Is there anything super off with the pose and foreshortening, or is the whole thing too messed up/unreadable? I was going to finish it but didn't know if I should just move on.

>>6481314
Fair point, but I'm my defense I'm doing this on a steering wheel.

>>6481338
based

>>6481328
Her right arm, which I assume is coming towards the viewer, looks like a flimsy babby noodle arm. Also the neck.

>>6481328
Any criticism I would apply would be unrelated to readability or foreshortening.

>>6480711
Utter beg here, how do you do this loosey-goosey sketching? A lot of sketchists seem to make rough multi-line scribbles that add up to a cohesive picture
Captcha: DRW GTD

>>6481338
>I'm doing this on a steering wheel
gmi

>>6480783
meds

>>6480684
I gave up after having to draw that fucking arm-hand thingy, fucking deformed ass creature.

>>6481344
Thank you, I was playing with the head and neck size so I'll keep messing with things.

>>6481345
I'm open to any feedback, those were just the areas I thought were the biggest concerns.

>>6481263
Thanks anon very on point feedback. I went back and had a cheeky redo with a pencil sketch unterneath

>>6481351
Idk fucking around and finding out.
Make big shapes you see and add little shapes in there.

First time posting, (is this even passable photo quality for criticizing?) where could I find more simple architecture-related references like this?

>>6481360
What's the key to effective hatching? Whenever I do it it looks like unnecessary scribbles, I usually just smear it with my finger into regular shading.

>>6481372
Beg here, why is there no sense of depth in this anons shade? I'm impressed with their accuracy but for some reason their drawing all looks like the same plane

>>6481372
work on your accuracy, the proportions are wrong, notice the ratio of each wall in the image, also the shapes aswell

>>6481376
Well I think my hatching looks awful in that drawing I wasnt focusing on that at all. But I want to say its a very mechanical skill, you have to practice and do a lot of ugly hatching before it starts to look ok, there is no secret or key I can give you that will replace grinding. But look at videos of people hatching to see the speed and confidence they use

>>6481360
You should try starting from a skull a few times.

>>6481420
bruh

>>6481425
What?

>>6481211
This is the lesson I learned today

>>6481268
I take pride that you’d consider hit, it’s a boy though

>>6481420
grug got smash on head
now grug flathead

>>6481420
Too high test, you'll confuse the gruglets

>>6481360
Lol balloon head. I don't assume it's all hair.
>>6481376
Consistency, and it explaining the underlying form instead going against it and destroying the illusion all of your other carefully crafted lines are trying to suggest.

>>6481434
he's cute!!

>>6480684

>>6481376
Practice making it really consitent on a sheet of square paper. I often absent-mindedly crosshatch shapes to train specifically that.

What should I work on improving the most/first?
(Master study of Frazetta)

>>6481481
composition and gesture

>>6481481
ignore the retard that said composition and gesture, work on your proportions and line quality and accuracy

>>6481481
If you could capture whatever you did doing that monsters arm in the middle, and apply it to the everything, that would be good. Especially their faces, her boobs, and his hand.

>>6481502
to everything*

>>6480770
Would love to see mr blueberry brought up to the same rendering as yer lass there. Are you planning on adding colour to her?

>>6481481
start by studying somebody who isn't a cuckold

>>6481491
if your picture is shit no matter how beautiful your lines are is going to save it anon.

>>6481538
It doesn't matter how good your composition is if you can't draw a coherent line. Also, you work on your composition and gesture from a master copy???

>>6481482
they're fucking copying an already composed (and well composed) work and you're telling them to work on composition?

>>6481549
>>6481550
checked the source, yeap no gesture from his copy if you aren't going to copy using a some kind of picture plane at least start with a gestural sketch. I grant that composition point though, but it seems a copy that didn't account for the og composition.

>>6481549
You are a comix person and line fetishist :)

Today's sketches

Critiques and suggestions more than welcome

Got finally done coloring this fucking thing I have been working on for over a week.

drew this because I felt nostalgic today
>>6481585
some fancy perspective stuff, things look a little off in places though so you might benefit from double checking your references if you used any. I wish I could offer more specific help, but I don't even know how to do this stuff well desu

hwyhdy

>>6481596
Excellent texture.

>>6481596
love this boy, what an angel

>>6481596
homer, bring me flies, ribbit

Hello beg, today i was mega lazy and such i drew only a little.

>>6481380
the original pic has white highlights and multiple levels of shadow (even if barely visible). Anon's picture has no highlights and uniform 1 level of shadow. The fact you can barely see something doesnt mean its not important for your drawing
>>6481372
unless you are aspiring architect you arent really doing yourself favor by seeking "simple to draw" things like this. I would even argue to draw something like this (so its recognizable) is harder than human face. Pick up some beg course or book and follow it. Or pick references of things you like. Godspeed anon!
>>6481338
eyes are always in middle of the skull
>>6481262
the outlines are still very fuzzy for my taste but it is definitely improved overall. Cute loli!
>>6481121
apple is good enough, proceed further
>>6481059
the hardest part of drawing is drawing
>>6480959
i kneel
>>6481074
i suggest you to do master study: pick a painting you like and try to copy it down to the last stroke on the canvas
>>6480855
demon thot!
>>6480729
to this day i have drawn about 4 cubes. Maybe it shows idk but none of the 4 beg books told me to do such thing
>>6481588
the palette is very gritty and depressing. Probably exactly what you wanted. Good job.

still shit but im having fun

how it is possible for some one to draw anything but stick figure made me think - isnt evryone did some obligatory drawing in some shape of form in various kids contaiment buildings sinse they like 5

really rough wip, i'm just not sure if the lighting/colouring looks like it makes sense so far

If I'm also interested in 3d modeling and sculpting, am I supposed to work on that alongside drawing, or?

>>6481647
Nice anon, you are trying to create rythm I see a lot of Richard Smitheman influence nice.u

>>6481653
they look a little too desaturated how about this, from top to bottom: base, shade , deeper shade, keep your current base.

>>6481659
yeah that could work, thank you

WiP, i'm proud of how it's turning out, mostly gotta work on the background, i want a big golden victorian manor in the background which is daunting because i know fuck all about architecture/how to draw buildings

the other night i fell asleep after reading about iggy azalea’s onlyfans launch and also the absurd prices of eggs. this came to me in a dream. iggy egg-sella or eggy azalea

>>6481683
the face and chest draws me in, i like it nice work anon.

>>6481688
Thanks, i wanted it to have that sort of "inviting" feeling, like he wants you to stick around to tell you a story.

>>6481659
Lol thanks, yes this was following along with one of his images.

Tried another quick sketch with the same method, definitely made the torso too big but was still a fun way to apply it\

Time to do it 1000 more times

>>6481702
keep in mind the dude is a pro in his usual workflow he just draws 2 planes (hip and rib cage) but he is thinking in volume, he just sees it by now. I say this because you are loosing volume keep copying his planes but complete the cube it why help your depth.

Can someone tell me where the perspective lines are, I need to draw the background and I have no clue

>>6481742
there

>>6481742
I struggle with this last week theres no single solution, things you can try:

1) draw a cube that makes sense and get the vanishing points from that

2) find a horizon line you feel it fit and use 2 1 point vanishing point templates and calculate those points

why is perspective so hard back to grinding 4 me

something like this maybe. how you did gun?!

>>6481769
Thank you anon this works great

>>6481338
>the ngmi taking breaks for mental health vs the gmi drawing while driving

>>6481338
gmi

>>6481742
Except for the figure there's really not much reference points to determine the exact horizon line.
We know the figure is being looked down on so the horizon line would be somewhere above her head.

>>6481809
understandable, thank you

>>6481629
why does nobody ever tell this fag to fuck off

figure drawing i think

>>6481838
he is drawing and giving people feedback, he's a much more productive poster than you

>>6481856
why not use real people

>>6481862
some of his feedback is completely and utterly useless. as in, its so vague that the poster probably has no idea what to make of it. and anyway, mass repliers are always fags on principle

>>6481872
How can mirrors be real if our eyes arent real?

>>6481872
its already pre digested, its easier to understand things this way

>>6481880
okay well he always says nice things about my art so he is cool with me on principle

Hello im third worlder artist from nepal
This this today
I cannot afford digital supplies so i bought pencils colored

>>6481880
Your complayng is even more useless. plus he is drawing. so pavel is fine and you are anoying shit

>>6481888
Also this

>>6481887
>>6481889
why go to such lengths to defend this mass replying faggot?

That dude back. Figured out gradients. I know the clouds are fucky but hit me with whatever other criticism.

>>6481895
anon I clearly stated that he compliments my art, and that's why I support him.

borger

>>6481899
your reasoning is fine, i was moreso referring to the other guy. i can understand tolerating him because he was nice to you, thats a personal thing. at least you admit you have a bias. on the other hand that doesnt excuse him shitting up every thread with vague advice and drawings which are, frankly, an eyesore.

>>6481904
based

>>6481891
This is really nice for the size

>>6481888
I love sketching birds yours looks great, watch john muir laws on youtube it will help you improve your bird skills.
Its never about the the supplies its about the process, even a chunck of coal can render beautiful things!

>>6481897
what is the red thing?
>>6481891
i like this color palette

>>6481927
I don't know. It's a motif I started drawing a long time ago.

>>6481940
stop with your satanic symbols

>>6481888
cute bird

>>6481904
Why go though such length to attack him?
>mass replies
This is a good thing why u mad?
>eyesore
Do you know where you are?

>>6481942
Ok

Bought a drawing tablet yesterday. Trying to get used to it with some simpler designs. Anyone have suggestions on photoshop brushes that they like? Feel like the pen tool is only going to get me so far.

I drew a thing.

>>6481940
does it have any particular meaning?

Some sketches I did today

>>6481976
I had a dream where a series of them were poking out of a cloud and moving closer to me at a low point in my life. Probably means something but I don't know what.
Really the imagery was just striking and it stuck with me I think.

New to using digital (got a screenless Wacom). I am a little bit confused on what to do, I just keep using the same brush, same brush size all throughout in CSP. Additionally, I am not used to drawing from the wrist and it's kind of painful. Do you guys have 2 monitors open or how do you handle having refs open? Digital is hard man and a little bit awkward. Trad seems so easy all of the sudden.

So, does line art/line weight come naturally after attempting it a few times on your sketches? Or is there some way I can train it? I'm barely 2 weeks into learning how to draw and I know i shouldn't even be thinking about this shit yet, but line art is just something I can't even being to grasp or comprehend how to do.

>>6481556
How do I account better for composition?

>>6481491
I'll do some line exercises before the next one, and I'll try to measure better beforehand. I think I do things too fast and I should take more time to measure everything beforehand.

>>6481502
The boobs are a nightmare for me. Also, when using ink I always make the faces awkward. I'll hit the anatomy books and practice faces by drawing bigger.

Thanks a ton for your feedback anons.

>>6481897
It needs a clearer linework on the pyramid.

this was fun to draw fuck i love cammy

>>6481114
That is not even int. We need a tag for advanced

>>6481481
This doesn't look like a master study since you clearly didn't observe at all.

>>6481491
Ignore this retard. Also gesturing helps with the proportions anyway. This fag is an eternalbeg.

>>6482062
I cant tell who's the real retard in this chain of replies but what I take from this is that I should both do gesture drawing, and work on line quality/accuracy.
At the point where I'm at, I can't really say no to "practice this basic skill more".

>>6482057
it is a fluke. my usual stuff is low/mid int

>>6480684
eerrrmm

silly?

some short ɯ mouths

Finished earlier self portrait.
Woke up early so something more time intensive with a bit more care than usual for fun.
Still rushed the speedlines and some other mistakes.

Hope to tackle the original panel with Goku and teen Gohan, but I'd spend more time on that.

>>6480770
Continuing work here.
I figured this one would raise more difficulties, so I decided to tackle it first. I softened the character's expression to fit better with the previous posted image.
Any suggestions or tips are appreciated.

>>6481507
The blueberry boy is something I grabbed from an /i/ thread, so it looking like a MS Paint doodle is keeping in its spirit. I wanted to play with style clash in this one, thus way each character is rendered differently.
I'm likely going to add more shadows to the characters, especially the girl. I wanted to keep thing simple at first, but I think more can be done to mesh the characters in to the photograph, as can be seen in >>6481162 and >>6481364.

>>6482176
Cute!
>>6481973
Maybe draw a full line for the nose or she'd have one of those really upturned noses where you can see the nostrils.

>>6481683
Tiny head

>>6480834
Based and hot. I hate how most artists draw girls being on the same eye level as me or even taller, because they are literally incapable of drawing from a different angle. I want to look at girls from above, I am not a fucking manlet

>>6481925
Thank you I'll check it out

THE MESSY LINES LOOK BETTER THAN THE CLEAN ONES I CANT TAKE THIS ANYMORE AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Practice of the day. Tried to improve on what I've been told

>>6482286
what are you using to draw?

>>6482290
I first draw the basic shapes with a H2 pencil, and then use a small point faber-castell pitt artist pen

>>6482294
have you tried messing around with a darker ink or thicker lines? the drawing looks flat

>>6482319
I've tried a little bit, but I'm only starting to use ink. Where would you recommend that in this specific drawing?

>>6482326
you would want thicker lines in front or objects closer to the viewer. This creates depth in the drawing. So in your drawing I would make the right arm and leg thicker compare to the other leg and arm.

>>6482338
Thanks anon ! I'll try that.

yaoi cocaine

>>6482176
Oh neat, I haven’t seen pictures before in the style you referenced but it is a very cool effect. Keen so see more!

how do i draw in 5 point circle perspective

>>6482476
can you draw 4 point?

>>6482489
can you?

>>6482491
yes but I don't see how that's relevant to you trying to draw 5 point

>>6482494
Yes i can. What next?

Can I get a critique, opinion or whatever else on this before I start rendering it?
Yes I know the lines are very sloppy, but it's only the sketch that I paint over and not the final

Horse proportions are strange. I'm not horse specialist enough to elaborate

>>6482514
Better?
The horse's face was too short and small compared to it's body

>>6482510
The fact that you are drawing this makes me happy.

>>6482514
Head is too small, perhaps, look how huge that head is, easily triple the size of a mans head

>>6482529
that's a big horse

>>6482230
Based

>>6480679
I've done all I could...
Give it to me straight, Doc.

>>6482626
The main thing that sticks out for me is how rigid and stiff it all looks

>>6482633
Well, she is in pain

>>6481888
Final result

>>6482637
Birb

Are anime cels drawn using forms or shapes?

hello

I'm a total beg and drew this from an old photo of me, and even though I feel really good, because I see improvement after years of telling myself I could never draw better, than children's scribbles, I see lots of mistakes like
>proportions are fucked, my head isn't that round
>it should actually be tilted, but looks straight
>the right eye is bigger than it should be
>looks pretty flat, shadows should have more contrast
>literally just gave up with the ear, seemed too complex to me
But all these I at least somewhat now how to improve and they'll get better with practice.
But what bugs me is I have absolutely no idea how to improve at convincingly drawing hair. Even after watching like 5 different youtube videos on drawing hair, I have absolutely no idea how to improve with them. I've even been trying to draw nothing but hair for several days just to try to understand what I do wrong, but I still have no idea. It just looks like a giant smear with some lines on top of it.
I feel like I should just focus on fundamentals, instead of hoping to pull the skill to draw photorealistic hair out of my ass and that's what I'm going to do.

>>6482727
Dude, are you trying to get doxxed in here?

Anyway, yes fundamentals, while also studying hair. You said you studied for days.... That's not enough. Keep at it. Good luck.

>>6482727
Based and Gmi self portrait pilled.

Tradfag trying out some pixel animations.

Pretty fun

>>6482745
It is, isn't it? :)

>>6482745
Excite bike vibes, but I am an old pleb and easily impressed.

>>6481977
Loomis

Felt cute, might go blow some shit up later idk...

>>6482860
She was too based for this world.

>>6482863
Goals

>>6481702
the whole figure seems flat you've drawn, the forms are too compressed; also in perspective the pelvis is tilting wrongly you've drawn. theres no real flow to it, there's no ryhtm and the line across from every side have no gravity to it. Heres a quick repreentation how it usually could look like.

is line confidence something you have to practice? or does it just get better as you get better at fundies?

>>6482510
Hes missing his middle body (stomach). So just lasso the upper body and move it up a bit and add in the deleted space. Then you should be all good. All ID make the overall figure a bit bigger.

>>6482533
Doesnt matter. Even an average horses head is 2x bigger than a average humans.

>>6482940
It makes for a good warm-up, but it's not really necessary to practice religiously.

>>6482940
Both. U get better as u go but for circles/ellipses u should try do more drawings with those.

>>6482790
Anything specific I should fix?

>>6482988
what he most likely mean is extra flat face. what to do about it is is up to you

>>6482940
Practice by being mindful about your mark making while doing any drawing.

>>6482940
I picked up better line confidence by making drawing straight lines and circles a habit, but I'm not sure if that will be a cure all for other Anons.

>>6482999
Ah I didn’t realize it looked flat. Any advice on how to fix it?

>>6481702
Is it me or this woman is weirdly shaped? Could someone draw here skeleton?

What bit of the op do I go to for techniques.
Like all the advice about improving perception and stuff is great but I genuinely don't know how to shade or really do anything beyond drawing lines

sup begbros. i just bought a 2013 intuos for 10€. life is good.

>>6482112
very nice frog
>>6482119
no it's cool, but i don't like how the musket is top-heavy.
>>6482156
(you) for drawing. her look is making me uncomfortable
>>6482174
(you) for drawing. it's a challenging picture.
>>6482176
no suggestions, i think you are developing a pleasant style
>>6482230
>that grab
>>6482286
i have to agree with another anon parts of the drawing look flat
>>6482373
(you) for drawing
>>6482510
to me it looks like the horse is a little fat and the head is too small. or he's actually riding a pony.
>>6482522
also think the neck is too wide
>>6482533
>for you
>>6482637
nice birb, also have a (you)
>>6482679
hi
>>6482727
you have improved a lot, man!
>>6482745
i still remember the old forums where all the emojis were gifs
>>6482860
hnnng
>>6482928
i think it's a cool style and nice colors, just so you know i think it comes across as flat

i have only been grinding forms and doodles and drawing more in digital now.

>>6483058
I'm not very anatomy profficient and imagine it kind like that,

>>6482232
me too bro :( my sketches have energy and charm but when i try to do something refined it goes to doodoo it's miserable :(

>>6483067
It does look a little flat now that you mention it. I suck at perspective.

>>6483067
Thanks

First time drawing muscle anatomy
Would appreciate any critique on how to make it less shit

are all the boxes supposed to be cubes? is this whole thing a meme? i have genuinely no idea what i am doing

>>6483105
no they called boxes because cube harder. If you have no idea what are you doing then? watch something about it.You doing isometric nonsense

>>6483115
ok i'm sorry anon

>>6483076
Thanks it looks good

Loomis heads are destroying me

>>6483139
this is because it looks kind of like sceleton, I did it but now It seems pelvis is too staight, shoulder blades are kind of bullshit, neck need to start differently - it inacurate

How good is drawing lessons from the great masters?

>>6482727
>proportions are fucked, my head isn't that round
construction
>it should actually be tilted, but looks straight
gesture
>the right eye is bigger than it should be
proportion
>looks pretty flat, shadows should have more contrast
perspective, box logic
>literally just gave up with the ear, seemed too complex to me
simplify
>But what bugs me is I have absolutely no idea how to improve at convincingly drawing hair.
shape design

>>6483163
One of the best books I've read on art, but I've only read around 5 seriously and most are in the main sticky.

Hello beg. Drawing the blacks takes more time than the lighter skinned people. Is this racism?

>>6483104
Are you using references or is this from memory? Either way its too much symmetrical which is wrong since they arent facing camera perfectly > foreshortening.
>>6483059
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing/page/102
>>6482727
>how to draw hair
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing/page/148
>>6482679
is this the BEG hole? And are there crabs at the bottom of it?
>>6482637
Very good and soulful. Dont get discouraged by the medium, you can make amazing stuff just using colored pencils. Use the fact that each mark is visible to your advantage like using them to imply form (cross contours) or pattern of the textures (various types of hatching)
>>6482052
very simple and very effective. The legs could have been better
>>6482029
find ergonomic setup where your wrist wont explode. do not even think about forcing it through pain, you WILL cripple yourself otherwise! For example my setup is in way my elbow rests on the same table as the tablet.
>>6481954
start by finding brush immitating pencil. Then branch out and experiment
>>6481904
>eyesore
Feels very beg man. Btw you shitted up the thread infinitely more than me. And you didnt PYW a single time! Are you crab?

>>6481904
>attacks someone for posting their drawings
>attacks someone for posting critique
>doesn't provide any critique to other anons himself
>doesn't post his own work
Congratulations. You are the most homoerotic, balls gargling, cock deep throating, cum slurping colossal faggot that has ever graced this website.

Crit my goat babe pls

>>6481262
thank you for all the help. Youre right my piece was too messy, I was just laying down random colors everywhere so it became muddled. I never established good shadow shapes like there are in your example.

>>6483280
pyw or is this really only what you are capable of?

>>6483334
Post your work, or is crabbing all you're capable of?

>>6483335
My work is of no relevance, I am just curious most anons here are too recognizable to the point they start developing a schizo personality for staying in this hugbox for so long. In a sense, sure I am crabbing you and I will keep crabbing you if that is what you want.

>>6483209
You should just do one thing for an extended period of time. You were drawing plants and still lives the other day, and now portraits? My recc is to do focus on figure drawing for the next several months. Vilppu or Steve Huston is good. Whatever you want, though

>>6483342
>My work is of no relevance
Because (you) don't draw
>yeah I'm crabbing you, and will continue to do so
Fucking kek. You really don't have anything better to do, huh schizo? Pick up an art book and study it, and maybe spend less time trying to bait anons on 4chan.

>>6483352
Lmao, I am only asking if you draw anything else besides these “studies” of yours. Why are you even mad? The fact you are taking offense means you are a woman in your late 20s who’s having a menopause right the fuck now. Kek, I don’t even see you drawing a full rendered figure. You need to chill the fuck out.

studies

>>6483361
You've asked multiple times before and I've already shown you my finished drawings.
There's no point in posting it again when you don't even draw and instead rely on bait posts for (you)s
Maybe when you stop pretending to be retarded and post your own work I'll humor you.

i can't fucking take it anymore

>>6483367
Holy shit you really are delusional than any of the other schizos I’ve seen, woman. You would’ve simply ignored me but you didn’t because you wanted to collect your (You)s from the past few threads since your posts have been quite lonely lately in the past few threads huh?. What part of the internet are you even? You are mistaking me for another anon btw and only women make assumptions like that. I have never seen your work before apart from your studyschizo art and that is fact. Everyone here is curious as what you can actually do so don’t single me out like the paranoid woman you are.

>>6483390
>>6483367
either samefag or you fucks need to kiss because you type the same.
stop bickering and tell me how ugly my studies are

>>6483393
No, it's just a no draw schizo baiting for (you)s

>>6483361
women and troons ruined this board
it's incredible, everything that has more estrogen or adds more estrogen to themselves compared to, say, an average straight male, ends up being totally fucking useless and pathetically stupid.
you see it everywhere.
Some of the fat fucking ham-holes and psuedo-women in this fucking place should try phoning their dad for once, or better, a fucking gym.

>>6483397
>a fucking gym
post your BMI lol

>>6483399
>BMI
tell me how i know you are a wom*n

>>6483397
What the fuck are you even talking about you retard?

>>6483400
I'm not even the anon you were talking to I just hate fatties and can sense them, post BMI or fuck off pigfatty

>>6480679
Any advice on this?

>>6483408
and this pic.

https://discord.gg/KAxGX6Ks

>>6483408
What were you even going for?

>>6483411
album art

>>6483397
>>6483400
holy fuck
meds, now.

m

>>6483412
Go start from the very beginning again, or commission an artist to do it for you

>>6483209
i almost mentioned that i knew the legs were fucked up but i changed my mind. i didn't notice until it was way too late so ill just keep it in mind for next time.

>>6483408
soul

>>6483363
Drawing some kids are we, anon?

Based. I recognize the model you were referencing from the left drawing.

>>6483417 credits btw:
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> I want to look at girls from above,
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>purple multiply layer shading
>take into account the different ways materials

>>6481702
Where did you find the pic?

I need some structure now that I am making time to draw again, I don't remember where I got this but any complaints or suggestions against the order it's suggesting?

>>6483533
Loomis is a great teacher. Learning perspective first is sound, but might get tedious, while Fun with a Pencil tells you precisely how to have fun with a pencil.

I should've just painted in the background first before doing any sort of line art. I did it backwards. Was too focused on trying to figure out how to how to draw the 2 characters from a different angle that wasn't front. Fugg this is hard.

>>6483533
Pretty standard. Remember reading books wont make up for you not drawing.

bros

>>6483567
Hey man you're doing background and characters.
That's alot!
Take your time and keep at it.

>>6483555
ty
>>6483568
Well yeah I meant structure as in "what draw"
I am going to draw so many loomisheads this weekend

>>6483571
Sigh wish I could draw like this.

>>6483533
Depends on your attention span and dedication, starting with something like perspective might be CBT. I'd suggest you either start with Fun With A Pencil then follow the rest, or maybe even start with one of the "learn to see/copy" books, will make copying loomis diagrams a lot less frustrating if you can make more accurate lines.

>>6483567
You have bigger problems than paint order, but to answer your query: learn to use layers and locking pixel transparency.

>>6483571
Not terrible mikubro but the neck of the shirt's perspective does not match her shoulders

>>6483579
>>6483584
Alright thanks.

>>6483571
This is actually hard to look at.

>>6483602
i'll make it easier to look at next time then

Yesterday i draw another bird in my third world country

Perfection achieved, further iteration unnecessary.

>>6481481
the boobs by the looks of it

>>6483655
Cool bird!

Is it a good idea to read move to "Keys to Drawing" from "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain"? I improved a lot with exercises, but like 90% of the book was ramblings on outdated sciences.

>>6483675
Not them, but how the fuck do you draw breasts well? Every figure study I do they are consistently the worst part.

>>6483685
I skipped right side and went straight to Keys. Great book, no voodoo rambling, covers everything right side does and then some.

>>6480679
What does /ic/ think?

>>6483685
imo the real problem with right side is how everything leans on the viewfinder, the pinned sticky really could do with mentioning that you have to buy a load of weird shit to do it properly.
Exercises are fine but there's not actually that many of them (and the printing of some of them isn't that great with my edition of it)

>>6483695
I just ignored the viewfinder and grid and other shit like this and just drew

>>6483689
Like everything else, lots of practice with lots of references in different perspectives. Find artists who draw tits that appeal to you and copy it.
This image might help

>>6483699
yeah that's what I'm doing but it doesn't fully teach you sighting because it's trying to ease you in via the viewfinder. If you're on pc/not gonna buy all that stuff you'd be better off just getting keys

>>6483692
What are we supposed to think.

>tfw live in a poorfag country and derwent graphite pencils are considered "expensive" here
>the local art store even has them locked to protect from stealing
>try them out and they are actually better than my $0.5 pencils
Now I'll have to spend loads of money on pencils, feels bad living in a shitty country

>make 3D model of what I want to draw in blender
>free refs in whatever pose I want

>>6483710
Good question; I was just hoping for some kind of critique

I'm curiors about warmup and such. If you guys decide that on your way home, or wherever that you want to draw a bird or some other subject. You get to your supplies and how do you proceed. What's your process? Do you do warm up sketches first, or warm up exercises and if so which ones or do you just start? Do you do thumbnails of different compositions, or do you start sketching directly on the paper/canvas after a reference? Do you use multiple references?

For portrait practice should I keep using the same reference until I feel like I've got it down or move on?
It's not the only drawing I'm doing each day so it wouldn't get too repetitive if I stick with them.
(don't actually need feedback on these but I thought I should add an image to the post)

>>6483773
I just start without warmups, my drawings get "better" after the first couple of drawings though. I just draw on copy paper and try to copy the ref.

>>6483801
I find portrait drawings hard, but like other things you'll need to draw a bunch of different people to get an overall feel to a portrait drawing. Maybe one or two of the same ref and then move on, later on you can try again if you feel that you gotten better.

Even if I don't like the result, at least SOME progress is being made by practice, r-right?
The reference was https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/green-pepper-isolated-white-gm495070436-77797901

>>6483773
I just draw. If I'm really rusty or/and idea less i might warm up with a tight spiral going as big as I can in one stroke, or some long straight lines from edge to edge up/down side/side, or some kind of repeating pattern. My tablet is always in front of me when I'm at the computer, so when "inspiration" strikes me i can just tab to my drawing program of choice and do what ever I need to do. I not good at utilizing thumbnails, and I dislike copying from references. But I do look up references to see how things work I want to figure out.

>>6480684

>>6483533
You could probably do Perspective Made Easy and Fun with a Pencil at the same time desu.

>>6484214
>>6484214
>>6484214
move along

>>6483705
>all shapes and sizes
>but not this shape! this shape is wrong!