/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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>>6432294
now in color thx to a friendo

>>6432514
Wait, are you actually flatty? I thought you died? How is your knee doing?

>>6432633
this again? the last time i made a thread peeps be like "you're not flatty u is trollin!!"
and im like "i is not trolling! i am flatty, you see?"

>>6433587
Not him but there was a faggot going around claiming that you were deceased due to your absence and inactivity, I didn't believe him but feel free to call him a fucking idiot.

>>6433596
I'm not lying when he said he had a knee injury in the /ic/ official discord a few years ago. I'm unsure why he doesn't remember.

>>6433605
He also said he'd kms over it. Then again, only I would remember such minute, trivial things that happened in the past. I doubt whatever injury it was back then was just him exaggerating.

>>6433605
You lying little Nigger you told me he was dead from his injury.

>>6433620
Well, when someone goes inactive by putting 1 and 2 together then you can't fault me.

>>6433596
dang, it would appear the reports of my death are greatly exaggerated
>>6433605
>>6433612
>>6433620
why would i off myself over a bad knee? also, why would i off myself at all? wtf have you guys been saying about me lmao

post lolis

>>6433645
>why would i off myself over a bad knee?
You said it, dude. Anyhoo, I'm glad you're still alive.

>>6434050
>I'm glad you're still alive.
No, you really aren't you were practically gloating and trying to upset people by spreading lies and bullshit and ironically it was on this date one year ago.
>https://archived.moe/ic/thread/5802431/#5802560

why don't you goys just make a bread on >>>/b/ or >>>/trash/ where you can post without fear of the janny menace?

>>6434118
>trying to upset people
Just you. Besides you and I, there aren't that many people left on the board who remembers oldfags. I wasn't being malicious, it's just me recollecting what was factually said.

Anyway I'll stop talking now.

>>6434162
>https://archived.moe/ic/thread/5802431/#5802560
wow what a coincidence on the date

>>6434122
thread in there dies in one day

>>6432514
super cute!

>>6434449
thanks!
-------
xmas with your waifu

>>6434792
which version is better?

>>6434122

>thread allowed on the bread for 3 years
>janny menace

you're free to refugee to /b/ though

>>6434793
I guess the see-through version

What's the biggest problem with this drawing? Is it the foreshortening of the hips and legs?

>>6434956
hard to tell where the pelvis/butt is, i get confused by looking at the right thigh/butt while the left leg seems to suggest a different location

>>6434965
Ah damn guess I really did misinterpret the pose. I actually changed the angle of her left leg once but seems like it should point more towards the right side.

People are learning how to make loli animated porn faster and faster with ai.

>>6435075
I have accepted the future where artists train to feed automated tools. It's simply just another extension for human potential, not a replacement. If you think about it we're already enhancing human capability with smartphones and smart watches. Very soon we'll have smart glasses--these tools can be augmented to anyone and can bring even the dumbest of low IQ retards to an equal chance.

I think as we move more into the digital "meta" world in 2023 (it's coming very soon), artists really need these AI tools to stand out. Have you seen the hyper reality video on youtube? Imagine putting a still image as an advertisement in mixed reality when pretty much everything is animated and moving. AI can help artists animate their images for this reality.

This is really just something most people can't see that far ahead because it doesn't exist in mass yet. In short, embrace it. /blog

>>6435075
yep that's enough blackpills for the next week

>>6435075
link?

>>6435111
>It's simply just another extension for human potential, not a replacement.
You're wrong. It is derivative to its core, it's going to lead to stagnation and death of art in favor of endless consumerism. Nothing stands out, nothing innovates, just the same dogshit mush day in and day out. You're being lulled into a pipe dream, it's never going to happen, and if it does it's not going to benefit (you).

>>6435259
Such a narrow view of technological innovation. I firmly believe the future is man enhancing their default limits with machines. You must put yourself in the shoes of 2032 and not 2022. Automation in art will never go away.

>>6432514

>>6435367
Hands are bad and it doesn’t have the essence nor the mark of Flatty.

>>6435367
Looks like an AI made it.

>want to draw lolis
>no sites allow taking money for loli art
What do?
I'll probably draw lolis for fun and hags for money, but is that really the best option?

>>6435399
huh? pixiv and fanbox still allow requests and subscriptions as long as it's not AI vomit

>>6435444
Wasn't this supposed to end?

>・児童ポルノまたは児童虐待
>・近親相姦
>・獣姦
>・レイプ (同意の無い性的行為)
>・人または体の非合法的な切断
>など公序良俗に反する行為

>>6435457
They updated that rule a couple weeks ago. It only applies to "realistic depictions" now
I remember seeing a post in Pixiv written exactly like in this screenshot but I can't find it anymore. It's still reinforced it's only appliable to "live-action" here https://official-en.fanbox.cc/posts/4840574

>>6435522
I see, that's a relief honestly. Thanks for the update.

>>6434900
so more of nighty than a dress hmmm

dang her torso is long, reminder to fix that

>>6434956
very cute, her left leg is weird i think hm

>>6435367
AAAAA the computer gave boobs to my flatty, make it illegal

So where do I find references without getting v& :(

>>6434792
>>6434793
not a pro, but please accept unsolicited redline, hope it helps

>>6435522
For real?
Damn this is good news, I thought I was done.

>>6432294
I think I'm done with this one. tried to implement a bit of every correction you anons made last thread
I was pretty proud of that knee on the standing leg but I had to scrap it due to bad perspective as someone noticed
>>6435663
>>6436510
yeah, good to know they hadn't bent the knee to the gaijin yet

something that I drew for an anon on >>>/b/
>>>/b/891288379

>>6435111
Hopefully a nuclear holocaust happens before any of the shit you speak of comes into fruition.

>wish to draw lolis and become a lolicon artist
>can't because I'm from pic-related
I fucking hate this nation's laws so much it's unreal.
Where do I have to live to fulfill my dream?

>>6436787
use a non-cucked vpn to post your shit on socialmedia from a more lenient country's server lmao
serves you right for failing uncle adolf when it mattered most

>>6436787
Mein bruder you're from the land where Underalterbach was crafted. What are you talking about?

>>6436804
One of the artists of UAB got probation and swore to never touch loli shit again.

>>6436809
But the page says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_pornography_depicting_minors#Germany

>>6436814
>Wikipedia table
lol
The law is a bit blurry but definitely leans towards the "you may own but not produce lolicon content".
Fellow Germanons can confirm from this recent thread, links to official statements by Bundestag included:
https://www.juraforum.de/forum/t/lolicons.711444/

I am wondering whether you can skirt the law using furries.

>>6436820
I'm disappointed with you guys but not at all surprised
anyway, brasil is pretty chill regarding art and I doubt it's gonna change too soon due to our hands being full with actual problems. the downside is that it's still brasil

>>6436809
iirc he torrented actual cp

>>6436820
The fuck are you saying?
It clearly states that what's illegal is contant that's "wirklichkeitsnah", which is defined as non-distinguishable from reality by a casual obersver.
Which very clearly does nit apply to drawn, anime-style manga.
Maybe if you're a 3D artist I wouldn't go for ultra-realism, but I don't think there's any need to worry about manga.

>>6434792
>>6434793

>>6437962
Wer lesen kann ist klar im Vorteil.

>"Gibt der kinderpornographische Inhalt in den Fällen von Absatz 1 Satz 1 Nummer 1 und 4 kein tatsächliches oder wirklichkeitsnahes Geschehen wieder, so ist auf Freiheitsstrafe von drei Monaten bis zu fünf Jahren zu erkennen."
>"kein tatsächliches oder wirklichkeitsnahes Geschehen wieder"

>>6436681
Good stuff!

>>6432294
>1. [THE MOST IMPORTANT] Don't post too revealing works (especially porn).
>thread pic is pedo porn
You had one fucking job. How can you be so fucking retarded?

>>6438675
Well, uhm, technically Blue Archive characters ages are between 15 and 18 years old ala 99% of anime girls are between these ages. So, uhm, it’s hebe porn more than pedo porn. And uhh well uhh it’s such a good image, don’t you agree?

>someone posted my work to gelbooru
does it mean I made it?

>>6438684
Oh, I see you are one of the delusional ones that think lore age matters more than what the character actually looks like.
Never mind. It's pointless arguing with pedos in denial.

>>6438815
I don’t think I was denying my attraction.

>>6438809
Just another fodder for Silicon Intelligence. Nothing more.

>>6436482
Yes that's much better, I dunno why I had such messed up proportions b4, thx

>>6438314
Lmao
One of them is see-through

No art cuz no pc

>>6439221
Berry cute

>>6434956
the left leg is positioned weirdly. That;'s what is making it look off. Cant redline it RN, but it should be positioned the same as the other leg in this pose.

>>6435367
You have multiple AI generals to go for this shit, why do you have to pester people with this garbage.

>want to draw
>get made fun of
>dont draw
>repeat

>>6439590
same desu

>>6439632
Might as well just draw a stickman at this point.

>>6439703
You don’t get the appeal.

Should have asked here:
Is there a way to disable "recent file list" in Photoshop/pureref?
I can set it to 0 but it still saves the thumbnails so if u change it to any other number, it will show those recently open files

>>6439717
I don't get the appeal if I'm being 100% honest.

>>6439717
Better than the other guy.

>>6439221
i love remilia so much

>>6439379
no you are cute
>>6439880
me too<3

>>6438369
domo
bit late but here's some christmas thing. hope you all had a good one /lsg/

>>6440084
soft lines, cute nose
love this

>>6439817
What other guy?

>>6440184
:)

I've been reading Framed Ink and watched a couple of videos on composition as per anons suggested.
I made a couple of thumbnails and I kinda like this one, how is it? What is there to improve?

https://files.catbox.moe/o9a4je.png

>>6440084
Really cute. The bottom part of the hat on the second drawing looks flat imo

>>6440422
I would flip it horizontally

>>6441439
Pretty nice. I'm not a fan of her upper to lower torso ratio but I guess you are going for some of a somewhat realistic approach? I would maybe make her head bigger.
I'm also not suer about her clothes, the part below her left armpit feels odd, does it get tighter to the body on the upper arm?

>>6441463
Thank you
Well yeah proportions of her body is something that was intentional
About clothing i was going for some kind silk/latex kind of material and i thought it would be sticking to skin at some places
I still suck at drappery so it's understandable that it turned out confusing

>>6441439
Great as always

>>6432294
I'm not a lolicon so please answer this for me.

Why are your friends on twitter so defensive and insistent that they're not pedos? you can't be saying things like "uuooh child erotic" and claim to not be one XD

>>6442722
We don't know either

>>6442722
What friends on twitter? Fuck off please not in the mood today.

>>6439377
No PC? Go get one.

>>6441726
Tank you

>>6441439

>>6442722
My guess would be that your accusing and confusing people that draw with those that act or posses the real thing and they don't want to be labeled with that if it doesn't apply and the consequences of people thinking they are actual molesters are huge.
So they have every reason to make clear distinctions between fiction and reality.

>>6443498
Woah that looks great, nice job.

>>6443527
>the consequences of people thinking they are actual molesters are huge.

pedophilia isn't an action, but a feeling, go back
you completely miss the point as to why people think loliniggers are pedos because nobody is accusing you of touching real children
the fact of the matter is that you want to fuck fictional ones and that makes you one

>>6439632
Is she meant to be an alien? Why are her hips and legs built like that?

>>6443686
Fuck off

>>6443498
EROTIC the sketch was better but the colours are decent, needs some more work. Blog?

>>6440422
I really like it, maybe add a secondary focal point so left side doesn't look boring. I didn't think of anything interesting, but I hope it gives you an idea. I'd up the contrast too. Looking forward to see what you come up with

>>6443719
It's interesting. I am afraid tho that second focal point may take away the viewer's eye.
I guess I could make it with very low contrast

>>6443752
yea you don't have to make it as bright as I did, just something to keep our eye in the frame and point back to the main figure

Zunny

>>6444222
omegabased, digitZ also confirm

>>6444222
Omega Bazed

why does this count as oppailoli?
/g/347532/

>>6443692
>>6443529
Thank you
>https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/89402567
I basically post the same stuff i post here besides sketches so there's no reason to follow me

>>6444222
i kneel

>>6444645
because story 3 is oppailoli. try reading past the cover for once, you illiterate nigger

>>6443690
>Is she meant to be an alien?
Elf
>Why are her hips and legs built like that?
I like skinny and small frame so i'm trying to narrow the hips and thin the legs but it's hard

>>6445754
this is a racism free general, paco.

>>6446185

hmm

>>6446426
Looks really nice, tho I'm not sure if you can post it here.
>>6446185
I get it you are into very thin bodies, but imo you are pushing it too far.
There is an artists that does very slim girls, but I can't find him.

>>6446426
wow very nice watercolors

>>6446426
Cute

>>6435111
Smart glasses have consistently failed to enter the mainstream for nearly 10 years now, meta is a critical failure and AI art is 27 years old with the only improvement being the hardware needed to produce the same derivative schlock.

>>6438815
Not Japan's fault that American hormone-fed hags age like shit stained milk left in the sun.

In countries not yet forsaken by God that body can accurately represent a stylized 18yo.

>>6443686
If we're gonna judge people for thought crimes now you better get against the wall and say your last words for promoting fascism.

>>6447372
What artists draw more girls like top right?
Skinny 15-19yo, not necessarily erotic but still cute/sexy is what I'm looking for.

>>6448579
I really like how Feason draws. He's a westoid but his stuff has sovl.

how do i know how wide a girl's hips should be?\ i feel like it depends but i cant get it right

>>6448590
NTA btw

>>6448591
Yeah, it depends. But lolis usually have them narrow

>>6448604
when is that guy giving in to cunny lust and lewding his oc

>>6448604
This is really cute, albeit simple.

>>6448593
no one care stop doing this shit

>>6449774
Does it piss you off that I care?

>>6449774
>care

Cares.

NTA btw

>>6448591
no wider than the shoulder

>>6449804
those are child proportions

>>>/i/730783

thoughts?

>>6450217
Imo she looks a bit masculine. Consider making her upper torso slimmer.
Even if you wanna go for realistic proportions, but that's just me.

>>6450208
as God intended

i havent figure in a while. no ref used. did i get anything right?

>>6450208
yes?

>>6432294
the "anatomy book - very "loomis-y")" link is down, what other anatomy books are there for these body types? having trouble trying to understand the torso, specifically the abdomen muscles, or swollen abdomen, and hips.
also is 5 heads tall good enough? or should it be 4?

>>6451009
5 heads is fine. Even 6 is okay if you're not doing giant cartoon/anime heads

>>6451011
need lots of critique, what am I doing wrong?

>>6451033
that fucking face omg

>>6451033
holy based

>>6451033
Is there by any chance a particular style you are aiming for? Maybe a couple of artists who's style you really like and want to lean towards that?

>>6451033
The torso is decent, proportions are fine too.

Now learn to draw hands and feet, improve ur line quality and do something with that face, it's horrendous

how's the perspective on this one, anons? should I skew the lower body some more?
need to hear some opinions before pushing forward

>>6451183
I think it's better on the first girl than the second one.
I think I would maybe make it like this, but I am not good with this angle.

>>6451206
yeah I had to make the right one's legs longer to make up for her being farther away from the vanishing point so I get what you mean
I'll bring her closer to the left's plane then. thanks

oodle

>>6451863
You can't post nipples or dicks here.
I would lower her head a bit, given the angle. Otherwise her neck looks too long.

>>6452085
nice double standards yet again >>6446426

>>6452088
Actually dicks are probably ok, it's the loli porn that isn't allowed but I'm unsure.

Asking for critique and if possible one for line art and one for the shadow, what I did wrong and what can be improved. Used a painting as reference for this one and looking at it again I definitely didn't get the shadow shapes right

https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=8041877&tags=klee_%28genshin_impact%29

Sorry but i have a confusing quesiton about the neck and collarbone/shoulder area. is it meant to look like this? I know that its stylised and normal necks are closer to the collar bone, but i can't picture the muscles and connections in these 3d models and how a 2d verison equivalent would work.
Does stuff like the sternocleidomastoid muscle travel from the clavicle, sit on flat on top of the torso before going up the neck? I'm just confused on how this works on anime characters as small as these, there's very little muscle, normal necks have smooth transition and curve to show the muscles going up the neck, this one just has a large gap from the neck to the clavicle so it would just be sitting on the top or the torso, there is sometimes a curve but when at rest there's nothing.

It's confusing sorry, i also don't know how much you're mean to shrink the neck by according to anime standard before it works well and when it's just a stick. This isn't even mention stuff to the sides of the neck, do those just stretch out and remain flat and seated on the next?

>>6452480
or even something like this, this neck looks insanely long and thin but it just works

>>6451055
I think sorta-realistic is what i'm aiming at? as for artists, john doe, diathorn, adam hughes
>>6451065
tried different faces, do these look better? feet are difficult but i'm working on it. Having trouble with the arm proportions, too.

need more tips and critique.

>>6452482
How is this game? The comments about it being mostly VN turned me away but I love me some yuri.

>>6452618
the gameplay is fine, the story is just told through visual novel cutscenes, the animations are kinda wacky

>>6452480
>>6452482
maybe stick necks work because there's no muscle attached, just the collarbone as a landmark
if you want some definition, try drawing the base of the neck thicker, so the sternocleidomastoid and sternohyoid aren't disjointed as you mentioned
you could also do it like kinta does, where he doesn't draw those muscles all the way down to the sternum

>>6452618
I bet you'd turn away and let me pound that sweet ass of your's little bitch boy.
What's the matter? You ass is dirty?
No need to worry. That only makes it better ;)

>>6452716
I always wanted to do necks like this but i dont know how it works

>>6452763
I think a thicker base should be enough since it's where the sternocleidomastoid is more prominent. that's how kinta seems to do it anyway
I don't think it's too common for lolifags to draw detailed necks if you need more direct reference though. as109 is the only one who comes to mind and maybe white datura

>>6452554
my take. I didn't touch the head/face whatsoever but I'd make it bigger overall, if I could choose
regarding the details on the torso, I just redrew one side so it's easier to compare. I wouldn't use lines that thick there, since it's just very subtle plane changes so I just tried to do what ponsuke does with the hatching https://img3.gelbooru.com/images/ba/5e/ba5ef7e6936c1b2329114107d6bba9dd.jpeg.. IMO the places where you can get away with thick lines like are the shoulderblades, crotch lines and the spinal muscle
top right face looks cute but mouth is too wide for a non smiling expression

>>6452759

Uhm...uh

>>6452624

Oh, good. I'll buy it when it goes on sale though. Already spent way too much money on games last week.

Give me more older teens pls

>>6453076

Think back to your fav series.

>>6452929
Wow! I genuinely appreciate this, anon, thank you so much.
the arm length, torso, thinner legs, and the way you drew the feet and toes, jesus, it looks amazing. I'm gonna start studying all of this rn, i'll fix the head and mouth, too, and work on the hatching. Thanks again.

>>6453236
Really cute, nice job.
I think the chin on the bottom-right girl is too pointy for that angle.

why do so many people equate fiction to reality?
I recently came across a YouTube video about taking the life of somebody who was attracted to a loli cause she's 500 years old.
Most people agree with them.
I told them they were idiots and she wasnt real and they were willing to kill because of thoughts essentially.

I got flack and was told i was weird for not wanting to.

Is this normal?
I'd understand if the person was real but they clearly arent

>>6453137
no problem anon. if you're having trouble with the arms, the overall length I go for is just above the middle point of the thigh in a relaxed position. for the forearms, you'll always have a rounder side and a flatter one. in general, the rounder side follows the orientation of the palm of the hand (toward the girl in this case) and sits a little lower than the opposite, flatter side
>>6453236
sick kicks. shoes are fun to paint

>>6453660
yes it's normal though some of it is people trying to fit in it's normal to not like things that go against your morals and adopt a one sided view because it's evil to you to the point you would kill people who have those differing points of view

thoughts?

case in point

Yes, the Janny is biased towards others there's nothing you can do about his rampant faggotry these threads can die now.

They say the meek shall inherit
You know the book doesn't lie
It's not a question of merit
It's not demand and supply
They say the meek gonna get it
And you a meek little guy
You know the meek are gonna get
What's comin' to 'em by and by

>>6453660

You're not going to find a single person who agrees with you in the YT comments section of those types of videos. Especially the vigilante side of YT where a bunch of faglonis carved a perfect emotional support line to catch offenders while making money. The emotional manipulation of people is like randos posting injured dogs on facebook to get "pet parents" to bump their post and then they change it to something else to carry out their scam or whatever.

That's just the way it is outside of this site.

>>6452813
yeah too much detail makes things look old,when i was starting i put all detail but was told art is showing something as little information as possible, my drawings improved a lot through this. Strokes too, i used to do hairy line a lot

>>6453660
People who are easy to manipulate will be imbued with this false sense of "doing the right thing", but those who initiate these movements do it for their own (often not entirely conscious) reasons.
One common example are many women and feminists who cannot deal with men's intuitive feminine ideal to look like a young/pure looking anime girl because it's often unreacheable to them; it makes them feel uncomfortable and inferior. For that reason they try to forcibly shape the collective feminine ideal of men by shaming what is unconvenient to them. Note that the opposite does not really occur: most men, unless they're very weak, do not have a problem with how women decide to portray men in art, medias and whatnot.

Another point is those type of people are not really conscious of their own shadow and therefore cannot understand or accept that others possess one. The way they project righteousness onto others is akin to blinding themselves regarding their own muffled human nature when you think about it.
Personally, certain sexualized shota art makes me feel uncomfortable, but I'm conscious of why and I would never try to forcibly ban it, or witch hunt the creators and whatnot. I respect them and I believe they should be free to continue on with their work.

>>6453660
dude humans been killing each other for thousands of years for some fictional characters in the sky

>>6454488
>evidence of lost civilizations
>earth billions of years old
>fictional

You really just don't even know. You made a post that can be seen by hundreds of lurkers all over the world in a matter of milliseconds. If you were to tell that to anyone 100 years ago they'd call you crazy. Maybe there really were witches who could harness dark matter to fly on broomsticks long, long ago or floating castles.

The very concept of life is a mystery.

>>6454488
Anon, the beleived those fictional characters were 100% real.
In this case they dont, they know that they're fake.

>>6454499
damn, this really is the dumbest general on /ic/.

>>6454514
Get lost then, godless man.

christcucks think they're not going to hell over all the sins here
fuckin lol

>>6454739
If God gave you the gift to draw then it doesn’t matter if it’s used to draw lolis. Using your gift is honoring Christ.

>>6454770
did le ebin real god give you the gift? pyw lets see

>>6439782
>I don't get the appeal if I'm being 100% honest.

>Picrel

>>6454777
I know that but I don't find the appeal.

>>6454776
Not him but why are you being so hostile against the creator?

>>6454785
Not him but why should any sane lolicon respect your "creator"?

>>6454786
Because it's a .000000000000000000xcontinujmum percent chance miracle you're even breathing right now

The least you can do is give him thanks that you can draw your lolis, especially in a free* country.

>>6454786
You respect the figure and the almighty that formed it, if you don't respect the creator you don't respect the fleshy temple of Man and all his handy works.

>>6454785
Their parents forced them to dress up and go to church on Sundays.
That's 100% the reason there's so many atheists, their parents didn't let them wake up late and watch cartoons.
People who weren't forced to go to church might still be agnostic, but they're not militantly anti-Christ. And their relationships with their parents are better too.

>>6454789
>>6454791
ummm, based?

>>6453660
I never got this argument against loli

If you say that there's a link between fiction and reality, there are studies that show there isn't and many people play GTA without stealing and murdering real people. Most people consume fictional literature and stories from tv, games, shows, books and most people don't do crimes because of it.

If you feel there's a slippery slope that leads to actual pedophilia and real children being hurt there isn't, in fact it's shown that porn lowers rape and other assaults, not promote it. It's the complete opposite.

If you say there has to be a line drawn on what fiction is acceptable for moral reasons, who decides that? I can say everything but murder is okay and you could say everything but loli okay, we can't determine that who is correct, there may be loads of people that support you, loads of people that support me, there could even be loads of people that want it all banned or nothing banned at all.

There isn't no danger here whatsoever, no connection either, I guess there is disgust at some dude fapping to porn but does that warrant people being murdered for their sexual interests?
By that logic i can say i'm disgusted at gay people and go murder them and be just as right.

>>6435367
I thought this one looked really generic and lacking in artistic distinctiveness. Then I saw the hands. Of course...

>>6455469
and yet it has received more comments than my actual art >:
>>6432514

>>6455380

Not even fifteen years from now, pedos will be protected with the same fury with which niggers and fags are protected now.

People will actually start losing jobs for using word "pedofile" instead of "pedosexual" in their old tweets, mark my word.

And with all my love to lolicon, I can't say that'll be a good thing.

>>6455489
yikes, didn't think about that
hope people can just tell others to fuck off if they all lolis real kids and call them schizos

how does one draw this cleanly?
I think it's digital but still

>>6455994
It's digital.
Patience and time, then make it a habit.

>>6455994
looks, dare I say it, *inhales* A…
/

>>6456268
>>6456113
https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/98352944

looks like pencil on paper to me. no melting features, no discontinuities, the hallmarks of AI pics.

>>6456282
its img2img of https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/95893087
Look more closely at the lower hand. That is a textbook AI giveaway.

>>6456292
well, i'll be damned! tricky bastards

>>6456292
>>6455994
I should've saved and bought an rtx 4090 instead of wasting time with 1930s heads...
it's over
It's truly over

>>6456292
Hands seems to be the bane to both sides.

>>6456292
>>6456314
Also take note of the hair ornament, AI has trouble stripping away color detail so tends to bleed in.

>>6456419
Good point; I feel like sketches tend to be more tricky to detect than the colored ones

>>6456519
Looks really, really good.

>>6456523
Sank you

>>6456519
lick lick

>>6456519
great body

>>6456292
It's not AI, the guy is a xeroxer
And yes, just like AI, artists who copy what they see without understanding it make stupid mistakes but render beautifully.

>>6455489
nah that won't happen because it collides with feminist perspective of power in age-gap relationships

>>6456618
No physical contact only for show
>>6456630
Thank you

So tired of people not tagging loli as loli on the booru…

>>6456519
Love it <3
I am just a mspaint artist xP

https://litter.catbox.moe/o549gy.png

>>6446539
>>6446615
>>6447372
thank
>>6456519
nice!

>>6457288
Feminism is for chuds now, the new pushed underdog are trannies and they're disproportionately MAP

>>6456519
This year goal is to learn color and light
>>6457852
>>6457701
TY

>>6458224
Looks good enough, imo the biggest problem is that everything is too vibrant, including the background, which may or may not be what you wanted

>>6458256
yeah i agree
to be honest i probably shoudn't be this hard on myself since i couldn't draw something remotely close to that like a year ago and my brain says i'm good but my heart says there's nothing to be proud of and i shoud push harder
Well maybe that's the reason i progress at all

>>6458224
I like how you did the shading!

>>6458224
nice!

>>6456519
any specific resources you used to learn figure drawing? you consistently make really great stuff

>>6458772
he literally posted a photo there

>>6459047
I meant learning material, not photo refs

HE HAD SPOKEN

>>6459647
meme8man

>>6459647
i hope he doesnt rape and torture her.
Just make it consensual and fun.

>>6459175
i didn't do anything in particular
like i read some books and watched some courses
Hampton, Proko, Bridgeman, Villpu, Ethon - i wathed a lot of learning materaials

>>6440197
The guy who takes two steps forwards to end up three steps backwards everytime.

>>6459993

Still don't know what you mean.

badussy

>>6459908
neat, guess I should try to get into some of those.

>>6436357
you use petite adult images and scale the proportions to appear more child-like, or you use 3D models.

as109 and Muk are two examples whose works are drawn this way.

>>6462936
https://files.catbox.moe/xvz7sf.jpg

>>6462936
where'd you find the sketch? Is this from a Muk post where he showed pics of his process?

>>6462952
on his Fanbox he would include a breakdown, just like Diathorn.

You can probably find more on Kemono Party.

pic not related

>>6462938
>>6462936
This always seemed hard to me as I cant scale proportions properly when making them smaller

>>6463002
the memebox is an afterthought, it’s just the horizon line

Thoughts on petite women as refs?
whats the general consensus of this board?

I mean this girl is not even as tall as the dakimakura here.
I've seen tons of women like this where their bodies can pass for kids, jav and gravure actresses too

>>6463013
Even then, i can't just shrink down the body and add a slightly bigger head. There's other stuff to do

>>6463014

You know our thoughts about it, but thanks for the recommendation. I'll add it to my private lists.

>>6463023
how do i add to private list?

>>6463031

>>6462936
so they're just lazy tracers
lol
with Silicon Intelligence, I am instantly at their level.

Possum Machine just posted these to her Discord
Thought you guys might find them useful?

>>6463141

>>6463141
>her
It's a voice changing tranny
c'mon bro

>>6463157
Nigger, I watch Vtubers
Voice changers are obvious

>>6463141
POST MORE

>>6463167
That's all she posted in terms of tips

>>6455380
Here's my argument:
>lolis are fictional
>they can only be represented through sound and sight
>if you ever imagine what a loli smells, feels, or tastes like, you're imagining the real thing

>>6459647
i don't understand gook runes

>>6463211
I mean i dont like real kids, they dont do anything for me.
I've even gone to the beach and seen them naked and shit. It just looks gross.
It doesnt do anything for me.
Anime lolis turn me on though.

Even if a loli looks too much like an actual kid I'm turned away as well.
If people can accept gay as not a choice to avoid the opposite sex, they can accept lolicon as being seperate from pedophilia.

>>6463284
Gook is korean. It's Jap. Every character used in that post is 1st grade Kanji.

>>6463317
potato-potato, are you gonna translate or nah?

So how fast can you get good drawing lolis?
What software do I need?
Does loli commissions get a lot of money?

>>6463321
No, pay me.

>>6463351
>So how fast can you get good drawing lolis?
Depends on your schedule.
>What software do I need?
Any software will do.
>Does loli commissions get a lot of money?
Only if you're in the third world

>>6463141
>>6463143
>Draw the rest of the fucking owl
Great insight!

>>6463425
ngmi

>>6463351
Each one of these questions reek of the NGMI mindset.
Better save your time.

>>6463419
Thanks!

>>6463435
aNon Gonna Make It

>>6463159
post "her" voice then, I want to hear "her"

>>6463141
>>6463143
Woah these look great, thanks

>>6463002
Unironically just narrow the waist and thicken the neck, and scale the torso to be, at most, 2 - 2.5 heads long and base the arms and leg length off of that. It WILL look weird your first couple go-arounds but once you get that ratio, you'll be good.

Picrel is monobi

>>6463312
You're so full of shit that I can smell it through the screen lol

It's the equivalent of a guy drawing a mountain of gay porn and saying he's not gay or likes men in real life just how they look in drawings.

You aren't fooling anyone you thin skinned piece of shit fuck you I wish I could shove whatever you use to draw straight through your tongue so you couldn't spread your bullshit to whatever people you pretend to be normal around in daily life.

>smells and not the cumrags in its den
>tongues and not hands to type on keys
>”normal” daily life

Need I explain your diagnosis?

>>6463745
Your diagnosis is based btw.

>>6463745
Lolis aren't kids, they're idealized gynoid pixies.
Real kids look like ayylmaos with shrill nasal voices and smell like piss.

>>6463977
that's the most retarded thing I've read all day.

>>6464000
He's right though. Use your head a bit.

>>6464223
It's just a stupid generalization. Saying "X group is all like this" is stupid no matter what it's referring to.

>ITT

>>6463351
>money
lol
there's absolutely no money here
unless you like competing with favela-tier slave labor

>>6463745
I would argue that being in to lolis and shotas is more simulare to a fetish then a sexuality. It's closer linked to age play then pedofilia. It's like saying that somebody that likes to do rape play is actually just a rapist. It not logical to say that because a rapist and a rape player isn't wired in the head the same way. A rapist acts on his compulsive desires because of the reason of it being a compulsion. It's nothing that can be controlled. Someone that does rape play, that person's desire of doing that act doesn't come from a compulsion. It comes from wanting to play around with taboo consepts. It's comes from a desire to wanting to explore with one's sexuality which is what a fetish is mostly for (in my opinion). In a simulare way does the lolicon, he explores taboos being free and playing around with his sexuality knowing his moral boundaries and would be able to stop doing it in an instant. While a pedofile is bound to his sexual feeling of children because that is the only thing that he can be atracted to even though he problebly don't even want to be atracted to that. So he is like the rapist, bound to his compulsive thoughts.

Thanks for coming to my schizo rant! Can we go back now to drawing?

>>6463745
Buddy it's not real and things in fiction mean nothing about a real person's taste.
video games, music, movies, books dont act as character witness

>>6464259
Why do you say that?

>>6463141
>>6463143
https://twitter.com/OpossuMachine/status/1612410345834045440
She posted them on Twitter

>>6463483
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS9q5TI-pdI

>>6464747
It's not bad, but she looks too tall imo, her legs look very very long.

>>6457852
such cute side profile. I like that you didn't give her the anime snout like most lolifags do, myself included
>>6432294
how's this one doing, anons

>>6464343
>wordswordswords
just draw

>>6465029
This is really good, but I would redraw the girl on the right's part where her left leg connects with her torso.
Also, maybe consider changing her angle a bit. I think she looks like she's drawn a neutral angle whereas the ret of the drawing looks drawn a bit from below.

>>6465070
thanks
yeah, that's fair, I'll rework that

>>6465029
Yeah, second girl's body is way too short, she looks like a midget, not a loli.

The style is very appealing btw

>>6465161
And neck. Neck is too short also

>>6464876
2

>>6465170
Better.
Working on different angles is rough, but I think it's something everyone should start to get into at some point.

>>6465161
>>6465163
the neck is short because I tried to draw her looking directly at the viewer below but you're right, it ended up pretty weird. I'll just make her looking down like her friend there
>The style is very appealing btw
much appreciated

>>6464237
It's just truth. Kids are not hot, they're awkward and annoying.
Lolis are hot because they're not kids. They're allegedly innocent anime adults in small bodies.

>>6465533
You have no idea what you're talking about. You're either too dumb to see how making generalizations based on your biased, skewed perspective on the world is retarded or you're smoking on that copium pack right now.

reworked the far girl. I forgot to give her the rest of the bikini when I exported it and now I have some line layers merged with color layers so this will have to do for now
I'll try to have it rendered by tomorrow if it's all fine and dandy with the lines

>>6463023
>You know our thoughts about it
which is "yes, use them"

or 3D models. you'll become a better artist once you perfect the formula

>>6463137
it bothers me that people can't just accept that not every good piece of hand-drawn art is traced.

Muk even echoed the sentiment that using real children as references in art was 'unethical' and that real life could not overcome that which is drawn.

As109 has opened up about it before, they're just talented I guess.

>>6436681
>>6465750

Is this also urs?

>>6466125
yeah

>>6443719
>>6440891
I have not been drawing at all lately due to technical difficulties.
I'm trying to move it onto colouring and such, I think I lost a lot of contrast in the process. And maybe the tone I'm giving it is not so good.
Also for this one I am probably gonna focus a lot on hair rendering since that is one of the things I've been hating about my stuff lately.

>>6466721
That side mouth is wrong.

>>6466730
How do you do it right? Redline it or fuck off.

Have you guys done any bunny girl stuff this new year? I'm been trying to come up with something but just end up sketching random ideas that don't seem to work out.

>>6467460
Not yet. Then again I have not drawn at all this year, basically.
Bunny girl is a super simple concept tho, it's nice but it kind of bores me to draw it.

>>6466730
It doesn't look off to me. Do you just not like side mouths?

new thread >>6468025

>>6463141
what's the discord?

>>6466874
>>6467960
Explain to me how the side mouth isn't wrong.
>Muh style
It is not a style, side mouths like the one he drew is used for animation only because it looks passable while in motion and under a budget.

>>6468416
>words
redline it

>>6468418
I already drew a profile face without a mouth protruding from the side.

>>6468425
https://i.4cdn.org/u/1673397139777592.jpg

Is he using a still frame for an animation sequence with a side mouth? No.

>>6468498
I don't get it. You trace but this is the best you can come up with? Are you afraid to convey the forms?

>>6468525
meant for >>6468429

>>6468498
... and? autist

>>6468551
and unless he's animating the sidemouth is going to be wrong.

>>6468563
Says the person tracing 3D but opts for a side mouth comp anyway.

>>6468565
I don't use 3d and it wasn't traced but I'll take that as a compliment.

>>6468567
You said many times that you do.

>>6468575
Why, just because I poked fun at your Ai meltdown? This is the earliest sketch before coloring. https://i.4cdn.org/b/1673461687084252.jpg

>>6468563
>wrong
yes, you're an argumentative autist
you dont define what's right or wrong dude
see that reponse here >>6468442

>>6468582
Dude,you have had a teragillion torrent on another board full of MMDs and you've proclaimed you traced these among other things. What's with the amnesia?

>>6468589
I said those MMD's helped give you a reference and an idea with difficult camera shots like with how the nose clips the farthest eye.

>>6468614
Ironically those MMD's do not use sidemouths.

>>6468614

Why would you not trace? You’re making your own reference. You’re literally the porn director of your own shot, so you’re not getting accused of plagiarism.

Anyway, I don’t get your autism over the side mouth.

>>6468636
Try and draw two figures kissing with side mouths like the one he drew. I'll wait.

>>6468657

>>6468683
Do you now see how sidemouths do not make any sense?

>>6468708
I mean, 1 of the most iconic kisses in anime history ever is pic related. This is where you have to use your autism to fill in the gaps.

>>6468726
A profile view of an opened mouth can be done right it's not limited from a style.

>>6468429
AHAHAHAHHH 7 YEARS DRAWING LIKE THIS KILL YOURSELF MIKUTARD

>>6468830
Modern anime doesn’t do the side mouth thing that much if you noticed due to all the money getting pumped into shows. Side mouths are a pre 10s meme.

>>6468833
At least they draw.

>>6465029
talking about lolisnouts, it´s especially bad in the onimai anime. i have a feeling they had people from the uzamaid anime on their team

>>6468614
Point in case.

>>6469558
it's "case in point"

>>6468029
You get access to it if you join her fanbox. She does a purge every month of people who aren't members.