/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

But when AI (a 10000x better competitor) does it, now it's bad.
Accept that you're utterly scared of total extinction.

>>6462674
:(

>>6462674
The entire human race is facing extinction

>>6462674
I don't agree with tracing when making art, though there is a difference between tracing things you created or were sold/released with the express purpose of being used however the buyer/user wishes, and full on using somebody else's works which were not released for that purpose. I swear you barely literate niggers are dumb as shit.

>>6462674
Promoting AI is promoting the end of humanity. You think tech bros will figure out the alignment problem? look at how they treat their fellow humans for the answer.

>>6462703
>I don't agree with tracing when making art
why?

>>6462674
Kys

>>6462715
Not op but its because a lot of people trace incorrectly and are not trying to learn the construction from it. Most people just end up tracing the "outline." Instead of taking the chance to try and learn the form.
Basically redline it to understand how to draw it and then you can eventually draw without tracing. Learn how they did and not how it looks.

>>6462667
I'm really glad you fags gatekept me out of tracing. I tried it a few weeks ago with a model head I thought looked cool and it looked like absolute shit and nothing resembling my style at all. My style developed without model accuracy and for that I'm grateful.

>>6462699
>>6462711
You just want something to direct your impotent anger at.
If it wasn't AI, it would be lesser/higher skilled artists or companies not "giving you a shot".

The "threat" of AI is the ultimate shit test, the absolute filter, that which sets apart the real people from the fakes, and artists are utterly failing it.

Time has shown that artists will justify tracing, stealing, lying and plagiarizing when it benefits them and demonize anyone who makes the mistake of getting caught.

End of humanity my ass.
You don't give a shit as long as your own belly is full.
Go parrot buzzwords and signal virtues on social media for meaningless numbers, maybe you'll save humanity and be heralded as heroes, you mechanical clowns.

>>6462729
The real reason why tracing is shit.

>>6462736
>your own belly is full.
>signal virtues
Learn. English.

>>6462729
but then is just a bad use of the tool and not the tool itself.

>>6462748
Learn to actually read and comprehend the written word, filthy mutt.

>>6462736
You don't know me. I am concerned with AI, as are the people making AI. Nothing you wrote applies to me.

>>6462764
You're not the center of the world either, Narcissius.
You're part of the masses.

Only a machine would worry about AI.

Is it bad to trace a 3d model

>>6462766
Look buddy, you have to be over 18 to post here, Your grasp of the English language is tenuous.

>>6462776
Then follow your own advice and gtfo my board.

>>6462778
>my board

>>6462782
That's right.
Fuck off, illiterate tranny.

>>6462750
You're still using the tool, but your using it correctly and not as a crutch.
Plus it allows that chance to add your own stylization in the process. So you can make artistic changes to make it look more appealing. During early rotoscoping, they were just adding in stylistic changes to the models and made them into cartoons. They basically traced but they still went through the process of stylized construction over it.

>>6462736
global warming is still real

>>6462753
Oh, I can read and understand what you're trying to say, but your awkward phrasing and broken idioms make it clear you're an ESL.

>>6462788
Go complain to 3rd world shitholes and car companies.
>>6462791
Ok, now fuck off back to r*ddit.

>>6462784
Nice projection you have there son. LMAO
You really think AI is nothing to worry about then you are clearly very ignorant.

>>6462792
You seem desperate for a win so Ill give it to you. I'm just going to ignore this thread.

>>6462674
We both know you don't draw. The question is, why are you here?

>>6462793
>WOW LIKE LMAO R U NOT WORRIED THAT AI WILL US ALL LOL
You know, maybe if you keep being such a faggot it isn't such a bad thing.
I know i'll survive and you can too if you stop being retarded.

>>6462799
hahaha. Wow, you are a real character! I guess you are not white, so you know you'll survive.

>>6462787
I'm pro tracing, I get what your point about early rotoscoping the best example for me is alice in wonderland from disney I would love to find documentary about this.

>>6462800
Got nothing worthwhile to say but you had to say something
How fucking retarded are you?

Of course you're shitting your pants when it comes to AI, you're a fucking bot.

>>6462802
Look, buddy. I know a lot about AI and various other systems. I'm well educated, well-versed. I know that situations like this - ethics-wise - they're very complex.

>>6462803
You're a monkey educated beyond your own intellectual capabilities.

Show me that you draw then you can keep talking.

>>6462667
how do you properly trace?
i mean even when i trace, i feel there's just something wrong, its like im autistically making sure every line i drew matches with the model, considering i have no strong knowledge with anatomy nor figure drawing, it felt static

>>6462808
>Show me that you draw then you can keep talking.
You first. Stick figures don't count.

>deflecting
So, you have absolutely nothing worthwhile to say
Now reply with more incoherent garbage and not post your work.

>>6462811
This is what I do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dERSl-bQNr8

>>6462819
>incoherent garbage
>You're a monkey educated beyond your own intellectual capabilities.

You are one to talk, lol. Here is my work.

>>6462822
>no u
You went out of your way to, again, post absolutely nothing.

State whatever you were initially going to talk about, instead of drawing out this inane shit, retard.

>>6462825
>You went out of your way
How so?
I claimed AI is a threat to humanity, especially considering the attitudes of the people pushing for it. You disagreed, Instead of explaining why AI is safe, you made assumptions about me and rambled about shit tests, virtue signaling and social media(of which I have no accounts)

>>6462833
>you made assumptions about me
And who do you think you are?
It should be pretty obvious that that was a generalization to make a point.
But it would require one to be able to read beyond 5th grader level, which you, as an individual, have irredeemably shown to not be capable of.

You base your "threat" on fear mongering on an unknown future.
If you can't notice all the shit tests and filters in this thread alone, you are not remotely qualified to express any views on any topic, hence:
You are a monkey educated beyond your own intellectual capabilities.

Of course, i will explain it to you since you're retarded:
A monkey can be trained to do tricks, but it still is a retarded monkey who does not know how to come up with new tricks. It can only perform said tricks based on what their trainer teaches them.

Lurk more, monkey.

>>6462838
I get that it was a generalization. A generalization you made up in order to have your say. Did you just want everybody to agree?

>>6462840
>i get it was a generalization THAT WHY I TOOK PERSONAL OFFENSE TO THAT THAT I HAD TO DEFEND MYSELF ON AN ANONYMOUS MONGOLIAN GOAT MILKING FORUM
You indeed and mentally retarded.
>you just made it up because i know less than you
Do not have better argument than just call me a liar and outing yourself yet again as a bufoon?
>you just wanted everybody to agree
Lurk moar, Anon-kun.

Either buy yourself some IQ or siphon it from the ether or shut the fuck up. I won't reply to your garbage anymore.

>>6462842
I was giving my perspective. One that countered your little rant.
>I won't reply to your garbage anymore.
Go draw. Maybe you will get good one day.

>i have countered your rant----- because i say so and i need to cope with myself
>hurr durr ur bad
And yet again, he posts absolutely nothing.

The absolute state of artists

>>6462842
>>6462838
>>6462825
>>6462808
>>6462784
I thought you'd finally left. Tongue my anus.
Get Captcja DAAKA

>>6462800
kys literal retard

>>6462852
If i leave, this board is fucking done for.
I am ever present, never forget that.

>>6462854
I was merely pretending.

>>6462857
Narcissus was you all along. funny.

>>6462863
If you feel threatened by that, it is not me who has mental illness.

>>6462865
I am amused.
>It's not me! I swear!

>>6462868
Everything i say only makes narcissists, psychopaths and sociopaths mad that they must try to discredit me by any means necessary.

If i was a narcissist i would not spend my time here trying to argue with actual retards or trying to have conversations you can't have irl; i would be grooming and manipulating other people to give me meaningless social media numbers or get elected in positions of power to increase my influence and my social value to gain money and more power to force everyone to do my bidding and just get suicided anyone who disagrees with me instead of trying to actually argue them, just to secure my spot as the apex of the human hierarchy to ultimately satisfy every single animalistic urge i might have.

>>6462873
Well, I'm glad to see that you're not letting a little thing like being discredited by narcissists, psychopaths, and sociopaths get you down. Keep on keeping on!

>>6462803
I bet you are well-versed in bird law. ;)

>>6462857
You may be an irritating shitposter, but at least you're cute about it.

>>6462667
for practice like how ergojosh used to learn but not for non practice suff, its just not fun and its very limiting to the art style potential.

>>6462667
Good to get yourself out of a jam, but rely on it too much and you'll become another greg land.

>>6462910
I'm adorable and always right.
Just cuz fags ain't like what i say don't make wrong.

>>6462920
Look buddy, I know a lot about cuteness and various other adorablings, I'm well educated, well versed. I know that situations like this, cute-wise, they're very complex.

>>6462820
danke

>>6462667

why? yes I now know Comics, Disney and anime is a scam, why bring this up?

did A.I. broke them to this degree they say this now?

>>6462736
don't care, still gonna draw for money

>>6462822
i love this. cool, beautiful, creative and meta

how do you filter out good pictures to trace and bad pictures? I dont want to waste my time drawing shitty boring forms

>>6462715
>>6462729
>>6462750
>>6462787
>>6462801
>>6462811
correct me if i am wrong as i am still learning but i am guessing this is what people mean by tracing wrong and tracing the right way

also, jeez this thread got derailed hard as fuck

>>6463387
You are on to it. To go even further, get some muscle ref and try to place the muscles on the photo.

Derailers are turbo faggots, especially when it's the first post. Shame on :3

>>6463387
did you learn something from this? can you use what you learn from this subject to make adjustment, e.g. you want to draw the backview? If not I would reevaluate how you do tracing otherwise it would be faster and better to use an edge analysis software to get your results.

>>6462667
>DesignDoll

Enjoy bubblegum limbs and torsos and bad 3d clippin.

Just get another monitor, put it upwards, put the reference pose there. And use it AS REFERENCE for the pose you want, but more importantly, DRAW BOXES AND LEARN REAL ANATOMY AND MUSCLE STRUCTURE.

>>6463387
Why do you use a pic like that you sick fuck?.

>>6462711
>lets just make the technology uninvent itself
yeah nah, not going to happen. its funny how ai is good when appears in the form of new iphone features where you can select text in an image and get your pictures automatically sorted by tags but as soon as its something threatening your livelihood its "le evil" now.
you dont care about humanity, you only care about people not paying for your furry comissions anymore

>>6463442
how do you do that? i'm trying to figure out where the muscles go but it just seems too complicated
>>6463444
usually tracing helps me understand how to draw something that looks otherwise complex, which i guess answers the question above now that i think about it
>>6463490
???

>>6463387
Yes is around this.

Don't trace the outlines, but do trace the proportions and structure.

When people say tracing sucks is because more often than not beginners will trace the outlines of finished pieces.

People who actually draw for some time, know that tracing the structure is much more useful for drawing your own pictures later.

>>6463387
This is a genuine waste of time for both approaches. Not because it's wrong or anything but because, like, you're attacking 1 element of the entire picture. You got a figure, and then what about everything else? You finished 2% of the art.

>>6463490
It's okay, you closet pedo, you don't have to defend the fact you're totally not into kids.

>>6462736
You're talking about someone in particular who hurt your feelings lmao, were you caught copying others by any chance?

>>6462667
The funny thing is that it wasn’t until like year 5 of art magnet school that we actually did a half-semester on grids and tracing and projection.

If you think you can regularly draw a proportionally accurate image from a reference and have learned all the fundamentals and understand why they’re important, the next step in the process is basically learning that professional fine art isn’t about jerking off about how well you can hand draw, it’s about executing a final image.

Granted I’m talking about underdrawings for paintings that immediately get covered up anyway. If you’re trying to just make a drawing and you’re tracing it seems weird. Plus grid transfer is just as easy as tracing and it’s more enjoyable/

>>6463900
What is grid transfer?
Excuse me I wandered into this thread after wandering into this board.
Explain to this brainlet artcel what grid transferring is.

>>6463698
you're just wasting your time, use that picture as reference instead, all this doodling you did wont help you

>>6464093
Basically
>choose image you want to copy
>draw a grid over it
>draw a proportionally identical (scaled up or down, or 1:1) grid on the paper or canvas you wish to copy the image to
>begin your copy
Basically having grid makes it easier for your eye/brain/hand to copy exactly what you see, since you're just copying several small images, each of which sits inside of a small square, without having to worry about the overall proportions of the subject or getting "lost" in what you're looking at.

>>6464126
Thats fuckin genius.
It allows one to work on smaller details and learn more from other artists methods

>>6464093
>>6464126
if you understand better visually, here's a grid drawing i did

i'm not going to pretend like i know what i'm talking about but i think that the point is to help measure proportions on a smaller scale
instead of having to measure proportions using a very complex image with nearly no reference point, the grid makes it much easier to be able to get the proportions down with much more accuracy than if you had done the drawing freehand

by forcing yourself to focus on individual squares rather than an entire image, you basically limit the chances of failure which helps motivate you and at least make it seem like you're improving when you do start to get better
you can technically start off by just straight-up copying but if you're someone who is easily de-motivated, like myself, starting from the absolute basics will be helpful
the point would of course be to remove the grid altogether to be able to copy with accuracy without a grid

i believe other artists use it to be able to get an image down onto their paper with the most accuracy as possible which isn't exactly related to the reason that i am using it for

>>6462667
The things Narcissistic parasites will do for attention. Amazing.

>>6462772
yes, you'll be harassed non stop for being a tracer, that's why artist keeps quiet about it, Toyotaro, the mangaka of DBS gets harassed a lot for being a tracer artist on both twitter and /a/

now the tables have turned, and A.I. has finally uncovered the truth, everybody is in equal playing field with the elite hacks who call themselves "artist"

>>6464196
>old shitty drawing

>>6464196
at least the ai did something right

>>6464196

Are you serious? The only thing The AI did "better" here us the face. It totally mogged the hands and drapery .

>>6464196
>high /beg/ - low /int/ artist so self-cucked that he never noticed he's great at handling clothing and its movements to where his original picture looks like it was captured in motion; he instead settles for the pretty polished turd that will share the exact same style as 10,000 other prompters. He is not even interested in merging the two for a unique re-draw. This is it. His homogenized img2img is his masterpiece.
A self-crab. A willing one.

>>6464708
I can't draw like 2008 anymore, I gave up around then. AI lets me see what it would be like if I kept drawing(the faces at least)

>>6462674
uh oh

>>6464196
I actually like the 2008 version

>>6462734
I'm glad i was helpful to you anon.

>>6464720
>I can't draw like 2008 anymore, I gave up around then.
It's 2023. Why the fuck are you here? I know /ic/ is a meme, but this isn't the 'gave up drawing almost 20 yrs ago and now I'm crying' board. Stop being a little bitch, get back on that bike, and use AI to pick up where you left off in 2008, or go to /g/.

>>6462674
>Accept that you're utterly scared of total extinction.
I've never denied it.
I don't want hard working artists to be replaced by AI, just in case I ever become an hard working artist...
Just out of curiosity, can you get caught for having used AI when using stuff like img2img?

>>6464202
>>6464708
>>6464732
yeah right, like your saying this just to convince me to drop A.I.

no thanks, I know you'll say the opposite if A.I. didn't exist in the first place, but the reality is, it here and we can't stop it, big tech companies will exploit this, Japan just gave copyright protection to A.I. art, and from here on there will be apps and subscriptions services by the thousands with this tech

maybe the mistake was your toxic behavior about art criticism all along, you can get away with this before, but now its near impossible to distinguish it, it wouldn't have got to this point if it wasn't from your toxicity

so either cope that this exist, or go back to the medieval age where you can live your fantasy of art being a privilege

>>6463701
You're not supposed to draw primitives over the original image, you're supposed to draw it on the side. It takes longer to perfect, but that's how you learn. That way, you could still create the image (or an informed approximation of it) without needing it there. That's how you test your ability to communicate with images, rather than words.
Telling people that it's okay to trace will create bad habits that they'll fall back on, and therefore limit or slow down their potential.

Tracing really has no place in serious art, hence why only hacks profess it.
Even Norman Rockwell, who used projection image slides from photographs, expressed disgust at his reliance on it all, with his final works being much higher in quality as they were not constrained by it.

>>6462667
Tracing is based and was used by many of the greats. But there is an art to it, as Doxy points out. Anyone who has tried it knows how difficult it really is. The key is to transmogrify it into one's own style. Mr. Wood was a master at this.
I skipped over all the posts about AI. AI is shit, of course. But if you get a good result you can make it work, just print it out, put it on a lightbox, and trace it in your own style. If you can't do that you have no business using AI as an artist, just stick to posting coombait to /g/.

>>6465780
>japan just gave copyright protection to A.I. art
what, link???

>>6464093
Basically what the other guy said. Like if you take an image you want to paint and open it in photoshop to the dimensions you want. Like say an 11x14 canvas panel (pic related).

And then you turn on the (for Americans) 1 inch grid on the image in photoshop while also having a 1 inch grid drawn on the canvas. Then it’s like you’re freehand drawing with easy guidelines and relative points of measure so proportions don’t get away from you.

It’s basically one of the most essential things to know in professional art production. Like every Renaissance painting started as a doodle that got gridded up onto a wall.

>>6465876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwNm-3SXFD0

ITS OVER!

A.I. HAS CLAIMED VICTORY!!

>>6462674
>writing your own posts when AI can do it for you

>>6466025
>ching chong ching
????

>>6466025
They deleted your thread, so you're just gonna spam that, now?

Why is it whenever an AIfag gets told to fuck off for being annoying they always go back to the "hurr durr you're just afraid of being replaced" angle?

>>6463486
Based

>>6463486
>draw boxes
personally fact checked this and found that after 800 boxes, i still draw like shit
>learn real anatomy and muscle structure
personally fact checked this and found that after studying anatomy for 3 months, i still could barely draw shit
lets not forget people who know how to draw a believable human body and know little to no anatomy so obviously this isn't it either

why can't you people just all agree on the main fundamentals and admit that copying is the superior skill and that without it, you shouldn't expect to get anywhere?
i don't understand why, after 5 years of being on here, people still shill the anatomy meme to beginners
go visit your local /beg/ thread and see how your advice is working out for them

>>6466395
>b-b-but Twitter artists selling furry commissions...!! They must be stopped!

>>6467575
Yes, being able to draw what you see is absolutely a fundamental art skill, and unless you are some savant with perfect recall right out of the gate, is a cornerstone to even "creative" drawing. A creative, dynamic animator who can't draw on-model (which is an advanced form of copying), won't make it as an animator.

>>6462699
Might God hear you

>>6465780

This dude went full retard. Was a decent artist, now he can't even tell that the AI fucked up crucial parts of the original image.

Let this be a cautionary tale folks.

>>6464720
>I gave up around then
I'm sorry you gave up, anon.

>>6463654
>let's create and promote unconstrained AI's that we are actively teaching to replace entire industries and reduce the value of human intelligence. Whilst making everything a bland amalgamation of millions of data points.
>let's train it to be a lawyer! and a clinical psychologist too!
>you vill own nathing and like it! Copyright? what? live in ze pod bugman and hold the reigns of this AI
>I have never read a sci fi story in my life and can't see how this could be idiotic

>>6467803
well, cope as much as you want, I see what A.I. can do to my old drawings, and the reality is, the sun is setting for artist, the gatekeeping will soon end and I can have access to their art skill with just a simple prompt on my keyboard, I did the right thing giving up this profession back in 2009 since it was pointless and am a total failure at it I had switch to a different profession, but now, I can come back to it with the help of A.I.

you can persuade others not to follow my example, but I know they'll take the A.I. pill in the end

there's probably nobody I'd rather not take advice from than Doxy / Onta

>>6462667
gentore skill is very important if you want to succeed in Nip anime. If you can't copy the style from genga and directors correction, you can't make money.

>>6468110
by far you are the most pathetic poster I've seen for a long time

>>6463701
>but do trace the proportions and structure.
i dont get this so basically the length and the width of the subject?
>>6465813
>you're supposed to draw it on the side.
so basically make the subject your reference, right?
just minus the tracing part

>>6468110
kek. You could use img2img and pick up parts that looks more or less what you want and go back and fix your old drawing since you already know how to draw somewhat. Why are you so hell bent on this doomposting "it's all over" narrative? Just because you're not gonna make it?

>>6464196
>2008 DEVIANTART AUTISMO
>SOVLFUL

>2023 AI "REMASTER"
>SOVLESS

Why does that happen art anons?

It's like a /beg/ that really loves art drew the 2008 version, and a generic Pixiv SEA "artist" drew the 2023 version.

>>6469143
Kids growing up circa 2008 wearing Nogia GlassesTM in 2023

>>6469143

Just look at their faces, the 2008 anime gril have a fun expression, while the AI art have a dead inside expression.
The 2008 version have dynamic clothes, and the 2023 have stiff clothes.
The 2008 version is alive, and the 2023 version is the result of tracing + mashing together random pics from danbooru.

>>6464196
>now the tables have turned, and A.I. has finally uncovered the truth, everybody is in equal playing field with the elite hacks who call themselves "artist"
You badfaith faggot. IT'S NOT YOUR "ART" MACHINE DID IT FOR YOU. IT HAS ZERO WORTH YOU FUCKING NIGGER.

>>6462667
Yes, but now I have doubled my medication with AI pills

>>6463698
>>6463387

That's cool, and all, but why those pics?
Are you a loli nsfw artist on Pixiv Fanbox?

>>6462667
are there any free programs like design doll?

>>6462667
>have you taken the tracing pill yet?

>YES

I found out that plenty of Mangakas trace photos, and 3D models on CSP, Poser.

>>6469183
>plenty of Mangakas trace photos, and 3D models

>>6469183
>>6469187

>>6469183
>>6469187
>>6469189

>>6469189
This isn't tracing. This is just photo ref

>>6462674
>Accept that you're utterly scared of total extinction.

>BASED RETARD

I'm not scared, if anything AI + Robots will replace us all, regardless if we're artists or not.

>>6469212
>This isn't tracing. This is just photo ref

>KEK

>>6463387
I can't believe you'd dare to post this when you're into something as disgusting, vile, immoral, and destructive to society as bbc

>>6469259
are you stupid?

Hey everyone, I wanted to talk about something that's been on my mind lately: tracing in art. Some people argue that tracing is morally wrong because it's a form of plagiarism and doesn't allow the artist to truly learn and grow. When you trace, you're not really learning how to draw or paint - you're just copying someone else's work. Plus, it's not fair to the original artist whose work is being used without permission. Additionally, it takes away the unique style and voice of the artist.

Another argument against tracing is that it can lead to a lack of originality in the art world. If everyone is just tracing and not developing their own skills and ideas, it can make for a pretty boring and uninspired art scene.

I know some people argue that tracing is a great way to learn and improve, but I personally believe that the best way to learn is by experimenting and making mistakes. That's how you develop your own style and technique. And, it's not fair to use someone else's hard work as a crutch for your own.

Just my thoughts on the matter. What do you guys think? #tracing #art #plagiarism

>>6462736
>>6462753
>BLOODY BHENCHOD BASTARD
>AI WILL REDEEM

Tracing requires skill to make it not look like tracing. The reason tracing is "bad" is because it breaks the social rules of artists.
Those social rules revolve around this fact: "Making art" is being an illusionist, and if you reveal too much you shatter the perception of the magic. But the issue is that artists are also captive in the illusion! Tutorials always leave bits out, they preserve some of that "magic."

Plenty of perma-/beg/ artists get pissed off when actual helpful advice is given to others because their own illusion is one where they "did everything they could" and just accept their position as being one of shit. Revealing that they could have been doing more makes them start to regret wasted time.

The same thing happens for less-shitty artists when you point out things like tracing are fine. They are idolizing the "idea" of being an artist. They strive for it. They hope for it. They look up to people. When you shatter that, break the idea of what they desired down into concrete, worldly processes - the magic vanishes. The meaning vanishes. They are left directionless and once again, their efforts feel wasted.
>If I could have saved time doing all that, and it was fine after all, then I would have been a dupe! I'd have been lied to! I'm no idiot, so you must be a fraud and wrong!

It's similar to when someone becomes successful while bypasses a culture, subculture or microculture of nepotism and brownnosing. Everyone within such a structured life gets immediately resentful, because they don't want their self-debasement to have been for nothing.
>We worked hard in the system, you can't go out here rendering that moot before our payoff! You want us all to lose out!

Many such cases!

>>6462667
>no rules just tools lol
Yep, this is how we got to AI.
Maybe artists deserve to go extinct.

>>6469839
Take your meds schizo.

>>6470600
are you a bot? why respond to that anon with this?

>>6463387
Based & guideline-pilled

>>6464196
>2008 version
soul

>2023 version
soulless

>>6470605
Not him but it smells like a Jimmy post.

>>6462674
kys retard and never reproduce for the love of god

>>6464196
Her face is too big for her head in the AI version, even though the features are prettier it looks uncanny.

Everything else looks worse or sloppier except her upper thighs and her right tit.

>>6462667
if you're gonna trace and claim it is your art then you may as well use AI.
you're already cheating anyway.

>>6471908
i hope you're african american because literally reading the pic related shows this has nothing to do with stealing artwork

>>6471940
I am. That would explain why your mom keeps texting me to come over.

>>6471945
necrophilia isn't cool man

>>6464196
The 2008 version is unironically better.
So much digital art looked alike before AI, since everyone used the same programs and drew in similar styles (animushit, tumblrshit, artstation-conceptshit). AI makes it even worse by making everything look even more alike.

>>6463698
>>6463387
Proko has an exercise like this in his course

>>6463387
Trace the gesture, and dont overdo on the markings. Markings are there to indicate important features like where the bones and joints met, or whichever useful landmark like the clavicle or neck.

>>6469259
>none of it lines up
Yep, you're stupid.

>>6472989
>trace the gesture
like this

>>6462674
The thing that nobody seems to be mentioning is that, aside from the fucked up fingers and weird details that look incomprehensible, you don't really have any control over the AI and how you want it to draw the picture

another thread that could've been interesting hijacked by ai niggers
congratulations, you're all dunces

>>6473873
Blame that self-loathing permabeg pajeet from 2008

>>6462667
Sad thing is people are actually taking tracing literally kek

>>6474331
Eh, I saw that thread and immediately thought isn't that essentially tracing lel. Sketching over the original art, and then re-lineart the sketch. Lul.