[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/ic/ - Artwork/Critique


View post   

File: 32 KB, 512x512, MediBang_Paint_logo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6428139 No.6428139 [Reply] [Original]

Seems like ever since CA.org died there hasn't been a forum culture. I suspect forum culture is ever coming back either.

Given the recent shitshow that has been many platforms becoming unusable, is there anything left where you can just post shit and not worry about algos and spam?
>artststion probs dead for 2d since the entire page is 70% protest pieces

>DA also dead

>the r word is too broad or too narrow of a net meaning its hard to get traction unless you post lewd art or show your tits next to a canvas. On the flipside it's somehow even more low morale than here with constant "should I give up posts?"

>most forums like wetcanvas are trad only but seem great for tradfags

>twitter/insta etc are dominated by algos pushing certain genres

>pixiv/medibang artstreet are basically daily competitions. In theory good but the voting is typically skewed towards a single genre
>discord is impossible to maintain any sense of permanence meaning spam is your best bet

Is there anywhere left where you can find a multitude of genres/styles of decent quality that also serve as collaborative communities? I understand the days of CA.org is dead but anything similar is nearly inactive.

>inb4 /ic/
>inb4 op can't inb4

>> No.6428196
File: 23 KB, 564x483, 02FBA5F5-BD45-4CF3-B8C5-4931D709420E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6428196

Theres a lot of people that feel the way you do due to ai and will probably be the inspiration to make a site where artists can congregate. Honestly with all the art sites being in flux, theres a huge opportunity to corner the art market.
Since artists are looking for a safe haven from ai, any site that can at the very least have artists first as their ethos will probably be able to get all the traffic from twitter, pixiv, DA, artstation, tumblr, ic, in one fell swoop

>> No.6428220

>>6428196
yeah im just sitting and waiting
newgrounds is okay for just putting your stuff up, though im not really interested in getting tons of traction that site isn't great for anything not-nsfw since nsfw primarily gets all the attention and clicks

>> No.6428222

>>6428196
I think pixiv has its niche already cornered. It knows its entire philosophy is fueling competitive mindsets via contests and rankings. Cherry on top is its purely for anime so anyone who wants a competitive atmosphere with anime as a style goal is already focused on there.

But for the rest of us I totally agree. Everything is all fucked up and in limbo. Seriously the best thing right now is a complete detox of the artists social media grindset of likes first.

Simple forum style with various topics with a couple good competitions and a few pros and I guarantee it would skyrocket in popularity in under a year.

Feels like there's this mounting pressure where people want to post shit with no expectations except to be seen. The current algos push inexperienced folks out from getting the advice and viewings they want.

>> No.6428239

>>6428222
Yeah but that niche is being flooded with ai. And with the way companies like pixiv are handling it, shows that they dont have the artists best interest in mind. The artists are loyal for being on and sharing their work on a site for years, and when they ask for an iota of loyalty back during turbulent times, they get hosed. Artists are starting to realize that and jump ship

>> No.6428243

>>6428139
Newgrounds

>> No.6428244

>>6428239
Interesting, I wasn't aware anime was that exposed to the influence of AI. I can't really see a way forward short of forums of web 1.0 sites. But who the fuck would start a forum nowadays with the amount of money needed to handle artstation levels of traffic.

>> No.6428633

>>6428196
>>6428222
>>6428239
With that lobbyscam gofundme being succesful, you'd think someone would create a gofundme/kickstarter to promote famous artists into human first gallery sites or something. Then again
>implying it won't be another scam

>> No.6428635

>>6428139
>DA also dead
There is still an active community.
>pixiv/medibang artstreet are basically daily competitions
Who cares about that daily thing? Follow artists, put the work you like in your favorites and get recommendations. Use hashtags and followers will come pretty quickly (if your drawings are somewhat interesting).

I don't get what you are looking for. You cry about forum culture and then seethe because you can't be popular "because of algos". Forum culture was about sharing with like-minded people, not becoming popular. It seems to me you're only looking for excuses.
If you want to be popular you have to use multiple social media and websites. Post on Twitter, DA, Pixiv, Artstation, Newgrounds, Tumblr and Reddit. Or whatever.
If you want to have genuine conversations on a niche interest then yeah, now isn't the best time anymore.

>>6428239
You can filter AI on pixiv.

>> No.6429304
File: 71 KB, 456x683, 1661276372879562.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6429304

>>6428635
>You can filter AI on pixiv.
anon, dont make me laugh

>> No.6429311

>>6428633
>With that lobbyscam gofundme
it being a scam was fake news which is why they didn't show any sources

>> No.6430027

>>6428139
Why would you feed the ai-beast your hard worked art when it will be stolen and profited without you gaining anything from it?

I'd rather sell my ideas directly for profit to big investors than to post my art online anymore for free

>> No.6430071

>>6429304
NTA but if you use Chrome, you can hide users and tags without the subscription.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/pixiv-filter/obnpnnkehjbeplkmddefoofjcmpgdgpm

>> No.6430108
File: 202 KB, 700x875, 1669125250916435.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6430108

If it does not allow loli then its a shit platform.

>> No.6430118

>>6428222
Anime artists is comfy in pixiv after AI and censorship drama. They redeem by letting jannies sort out AI pics from top 300 daily

>> No.6430159

>>6430108
Why visa/mastercard hate art?

>> No.6430226

>>6428635
nah bro da has been dead since 2015
only the fetish artist where keeping it on life support but even there leaving after this ai shit
its over

>> No.6430234

>>6430118
No, the Japs have revolted. Do you not know I Japanese? They hate pixiv now and that’s a bandaid on a gushing wound.

>> No.6430239

>>6430027
This guy gets it. Once it has fed off everyone online, the class action lawsuits will happen, making it illegal. Maybe then, some of us will come back but won’t post full galleries. They’ll beg for us to come back.

>> No.6430318
File: 82 KB, 333x327, 1661286043940.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6430318

>>6430108
B a s e d
a
s
e
d

>> No.6430325

>>6430239
I only post low res, watermarked generic shit now. Anything higher quality than that stays in storage.

>> No.6431719

>>6430318
Anime is gay

>> No.6431851

>>6428139
The old sites are all "dead" because retards call them "dead", not because they're not as functional as ever.
And anywhere new that props up will just be infested by trannies showing their irrelevant tranny dogma on everyone so any new website is useless by default.

>> No.6431862

>>6430108
Artists hate loli and will strike you down if you dare mingle with them

>> No.6431974

>>6431862
>trannies and roasties hate loli
Artists know beauty ends at 19 and wasn't born with a Y chromosome.

>> No.6432093

>>6431719
And so are you

>> No.6432111

>>6431974
Republicans were right about pedos deserving the death penalty.

>> No.6432267

>>6430108
Kys pedo

>> No.6432268
File: 394 KB, 1080x1349, Yts.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6432268

>>6432111

>> No.6432291
File: 1.54 MB, 1474x484, 5039385482.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6432291

>>6428139
I don't post on art sites but I post art that specific groups would like depending on subject matter. I also have a wordpress and my own website. Twitter is used just to give people updates about my art.

>> No.6432407

>>6428139
that's because forum culture used to be about one common topic, now it's one common (((fact-check this please?))) topic and a whole shitload of bonuses
Mastodon is trying to be a forum again but we can't ever have nice fucking things because underlining ethics and morals
>go make your own forum and see what happens when someone brings a topic you don't like onto the table

>> No.6432440

>>6432291
Where do I find fantasy art groups?

I'm talking traditional painters and inkers. I cannot for the love of God find anything for old school d&d type shit.

>> No.6432850

>>6432440
nta but sounds cool. Only ever have seen stuff like this on DeviantArt and reposted on Pinterest funnily enough

>> No.6432898

>>6432093
No faggot, I don't want to fuck children like you do.

>> No.6432901

>>6432898
Based. I think anime that's not 90s kino Shonen shit is mega gay too

>> No.6433199

>>6432111
true but this isnt the same thing
if you cant tell a real girl to a png
then i think its you who has the problem not them (unless its ai shit then by all means waste them)

>> No.6433234
File: 193 KB, 750x1027, 1585945307514.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
6433234

>>6432440
>Where do I find fantasy art groups?

no idea because I am not into fantasy, but

>traditional painters and inkers

there's a WetCanvas forum that seems to be active with traditional artists

>find anything for old school d&d type shit.

You're better off just going directly to d&d groups and forums and sharing your art there rather than trying to get with other artists in general

>> No.6433292

>>6433234
Appreciate this bro. I will check out Wet Canvas and see if thats cool.

Yeah I'll have to look around because there are different sites for D&D art but all the fifth edition stuff is just a bunch of crazy horny furries.

I just want old school, dude vs mega monsters type shit. Race of dude or woman doesn't bother me but yeah I just want that 70s and 80s vibe more than modern furry fest.

>> No.6433318

>>6433292
>I just want old school, dude vs mega monsters type shit. Race of dude or woman doesn't bother me but yeah I just want that 70s and 80s vibe more than modern furry fest.

If you want to be taken seriously and look legit, just get:

1. your own website with your sketches and portfolio on it
2. get a twitter for updates
3. wordpress if you want more traffic, but this is optional

>> No.6433444

>>6428139
I think a Kickstarter to fund a human only forum/platform with support from high profile and industry artists would do well.
Keep ai out would be part of the sign up process, verify you are a human artist, draw this using oekaki tool? Though grad artists would need a way in too... Idk.

>> No.6433450

>>6433444
*Trad

>> No.6433477

>>6433318
I have my own site but I deployed it myself with its own custom banner.

Honestly I wish I could just find something that you can just redeploy like a Wix site templates but self host yourself.

Ive seen fucking girls with literal Wix pages that look better than mine.

>> No.6434950

>>6428139
>the entire page is 70% protest pieces
What do you mean?

>> No.6435093

>>6434950
Probably black lives matter or protests against ai takeover of the art industry